sk-discussion

[slender juniper]

The only preset "code" we have is instincts

[subtle lynx]

That's not the point he's trying to make

[cosmic nest]

it can just survive in void iirc

[unkempt dirge]

It literally isn't made out of void wdym

[ruby agate]

infection bla bla bla i dont know how toe xplain it it's barely alive

i dont know how to explain it but it is BARELY alive

[unkempt dirge]

it doesn't live in the void

[ruby agate]

it does not have a mind to think

[ruby agate]

it lives on the border, which no other creature has

[unkempt dirge]

you realize that the vessels are reanimated corpses right

[slender juniper]

And how can it then follow orders

[unkempt dirge]

the white lady literally states that the vessels died and then were born

[ruby agate]

im talking about the shadow creepers i dont think theyre

[unkempt dirge]

they are literally supposed to be reanimated corpses monor

[ruby agate]

YES BRO THAT JUST MEANS THEYRE ALIVE

YES MAN A ZOMBIE IS AI

[cosmic nest]

well yeah but the abyss has void in the air why do u think hornet just stands at the edge of it and the pale king as well

[unkempt dirge]

the kingsmoulds literally only do what they were created to do

[subtle lynx]

Hornet enters the abyss in silksong

[slender juniper]

This isn't even an argumentative,an living organism needs the ability of thought to follow orders

I'm not even arguing about HK lore

[cosmic nest]

only for a little bit though

[subtle lynx]

Uh no?

Weavers were in the void for a while as well

[ruby agate]

wingsmoulds are actually mainly a mystery still

like, we dunno who fully made them, their purpose, or anything

weavers? the pale king? both?

[subtle lynx]

They built their own weavernest there

[unkempt dirge]

they literally have crystal powered golems

[cosmic nest]

wait ur right

[slender juniper]

Okay

[ruby agate]

no man

[unkempt dirge]

the pale king is literally said to be the one who invented them

their literally in his workshop

[ruby agate]

HAVE YOU PLAYED SILKSO

[unkempt dirge]

hollow knight

[cosmic nest]

wait wtf team cherry is the retcon master

[glossy nebula]

How

[unkempt dirge]

the citadel had silkflies power the cogworks

[ruby agate]

which hollow knight

[slender juniper]

Pale king is a fool hornet is right

[unkempt dirge]

the one in hallownest

[ruby agate]

yes man anf the wingsmoulds were a collaborative effort

[subtle lynx]

I don't think it's ever implied that bugs can't enter the abyss

Counterpoint also, the bug in the beacon in the void

[ruby agate]

Do you mean crystal guardian bro

[slender juniper]

Hollow knight if the pale king decided to build the black egg in the dessert:.....

[cosmic nest]

Hornet can barely stand the void in hk she doesn’t enter the abyss and passes out in like 3 seconds in the black egg temple meanwhile silksong she just can play around in the abyss

[unkempt dirge]

the big giant robots we see that we take the crystal dash from

which is literally massive robots

[cosmic nest]

What bug beacon?

[ruby agate]

i dont think they were ever alive

what does this have to do with the vessels

[cosmic nest]

The lighthouse?

[glossy nebula]

Same in begining of act 3

[subtle lynx]

Yeah that

[glossy nebula]

She was in direct contact with the void

[cosmic nest]

I guess she just got resistant to it idfk games weird like that

[subtle lynx]

The black egg temple is different

[glossy nebula]

So she is now able to atleast survive a bit

[slender juniper]

And then fainted

She isn't resistant she faints in the begging of act 3

[cosmic nest]

Didn’t the bug operating the lighthouse die bc of the void?

[scenic yoke]

Mount fay is a NIGHTMARE.

[slender juniper]

[unkempt dirge]

no they weren't???????????????

[glossy nebula]

She obtained said resistence by being in close range with the void tendrils

[unkempt dirge]

The pale king created them himself that's literally the point

[glossy nebula]

In beginning of act 3

[ruby agate]

void also repels the silk inside hornet AND hornet only avoids the void's damage with the veerbloom

i still think hornet cant fully use void

[cosmic nest]

no but like I mean how is she able to exist in the abyss just fine for prolonged time

[unkempt dirge]

the weavers had no part in the wingsmoulds or kingsmoulds creation

they are literally in his workshop not the weaversden

[cosmic nest]

I guess this makes sense

[slender juniper]

....idk it's a cool area

[unkempt dirge]

and were literally hallownest creations that the nailsmith literally creates a small sculpture of one

[slender juniper]

That's what TC said

[glossy nebula]

Remember she was passing out in beggining of act 3 because of void sickeness

[cosmic nest]

I think it’s just plot convienence

[cosmic nest]

Yeah at the cradle

[glossy nebula]

So she got used to it

She obtainrd resistance

[ruby agate]

the white palace is a dream with non-euchliddean geometry why are taking this as 100% lore

[unkempt dirge]

because that's the literal white palace wdym

[ruby agate]

NO IT ISNT

[slender juniper]

Abhiker you're way too invested in bug lore

[cosmic nest]

I think that she probably was still weakened in the abyss it just wouldn’t be fun to be flopping over every 5 seconds

[ruby agate]

I DONT THINK IN HALLOWNEST YOU ENTER A ROOM AND TELEPORT TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PALACE

[unkempt dirge]

Ask in sk lore

[slender juniper]

If you wanna argue about it There's a channel for that called #sk-lore

[ruby agate]

THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS
IT IS NON-EUCHLIDEAN GEOMETRY WHICH CANNOT HAPPEN

[glossy nebula]

No no, it is not just plot convenience

[unkempt dirge]

that's the after affects of the dream realm but it's stateed he transported the white palace to the dream realm

[glossy nebula]

She was closer to the middle the lake than even the knight was in hk

[unkempt dirge]

the pale kings workshop mate

[ruby agate]

He cant use the dream realm or else he'd just square up with the radiance oh my god

[unkempt dirge]

he does use the dream realm wdym

[cosmic nest]

actually u could lowkey be right bc she’s exposed to void in the black egg temple for a pretty long time until the knight defeats the radiance

[unkempt dirge]

wtf are you talking about cawthon

[slender juniper]

PK💔

[wind mulch]

pale king infanticide mogs

[glossy nebula]

Yeah she was

[cosmic nest]

holy shit now that I think abt it hornet was just lying in a pool of void for like 5 minutes straight

[hardy remnant]

What to do in sk if you have done everything

[cosmic nest]

Refight lost lace

[old compass]

hitless every boss

[slender juniper]

When

[cosmic nest]

Black egg temple after the knight enters thks mind

[brazen saffron]

is it really murder or abandonment/neglect

[glossy nebula]

And she was near the heart of the abyss lake in beginning of act 3

[cosmic nest]

I’m pretty sure the temples void starts to leak and that’s how the shades show up in the radiance fight

[glossy nebula]

It all merges onto her getting a bit of ressistance

[cosmic nest]

cus we see void pooling at the end cutscene

[wind mulch]

well its like abandoning a baby in a volcano

[glossy nebula]

Yeah

[cosmic nest]

makes enough sense for tc

[slender juniper]

Not a pool of void , it's more like a pond

[glossy nebula]

Still void able to kill any being if it targeted it

[ruby agate]

@unkempt dirge listen man i had a bad day so

if the wingmoulds were pale king only why does he have silk and runes during their creation

[slender juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-12082213559516606353

[ruby agate]

i dont wanna argue about worthless bullshit

[unkempt dirge]

you realize there is an entire journal entry confirming they aren't made out of silk

[old compass]

hey guys I'm still crashing out over karmilita hitless all parry

[unkempt dirge]

and are made out of soul and void right, this kinda disproves your entire point

[ruby agate]

you do realize that there are silk spools and runes during their creation

[slender juniper]

No the runes

[glossy nebula]

He imported those from the weavers through hidden station

[ruby agate]

yes to help with the wingmoulds

[slender juniper]

The runes are made out of silk, not them

[ruby agate]

the weavers had something to do with the wingmoulds

[unkempt dirge]

rrunes aren't silk specific

[unkempt dirge]

We literally get confirmation by that fact

[cosmic nest]

I would die

[ruby agate]

i feel like it'd be pointless to include this in the wiki otherwise

[slender juniper]

Then why put a silkspool by them

Just for decoration

[ruby agate]

he used a rune etched shell to make the wingmoulds

[unkempt dirge]

using soul

we're showcased soul can create runes this has been well established

[ruby agate]

you're dense

you win man im not going further

[slender juniper]

Okay but using enviromental storytelling,why is there a silk spool

[ruby agate]

you win i lose fuck this shit

[slender juniper]

You're forgetting the important part

[unkempt dirge]

because it's his workshop and silk is a useful material of the weavers

He used silk sure

[slender juniper]

When an information is given to you in media, it's going to be important,the fact they chose to include a silkspool by them is information for uz

[ruby agate]

Why would it be in his workshop oh my godddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[slender juniper]

Nothing is placed there without reason, unless the writer is really bad

[ruby agate]

IS IT JUST DECORATION I LEGIT DONT GET YOUR POINT

[plush pendant]

Hornet do be so cool, I wish spiders were real

[unkempt dirge]

no

but the game classifies them as the pale kings creations

[ruby agate]

AND THE ENTIRE GAME IS FULL OF PALE KING PROPAGANDA

[devout dove]

does anyone know where i can get a silk skill other than the harpoon throw?

[ruby agate]

WHY CAN PEOPLE THINK IN PHARLOOM? THEY SAY THE THINKING'S ONLY FROM HALLOWNEST

[plush pendant]

There's one in wormways

[slender juniper]

Yes because I can use for example,cottom collected from cotton farms in Asia and knit it into something,it would still be my creation

[devout dove]

alr, thanks

[unkempt dirge]

hornet states this

[plush pendant]

Just take in mind you need the needolin upgrade

[unkempt dirge]

Hornet states it's a crude creation of the pale kings domain

[winged lily]

Materium complete

[glossy nebula]

Nope

They say the masks make you think

[unkempt dirge]

that's not said anywhere cawthon

[glossy nebula]

Just having an identity make you think

[winged lily]

What else after materium

[unkempt dirge]

they say that hallownest will be the last eternal kingdom which was the pale kings intention

[winged lily]

Just map completion?

[near breach]

Sea of sorrow tomorrow 😂😂

[ruby agate]

lore panel next to the entrance of dirtmouth in king's pass

[glossy nebula]

The paleking and gms gave their supporters their identity

[near breach]

It's tomorrow 😂

[winged lily]

And 99999 rosaries

[glossy nebula]

It doesnt say that

[unkempt dirge]

hallownest literally had constant tourists and adventurers

[unkempt dirge]

that talks about kingdoms

not thinking

[slender juniper]

So if I say "you'l get more money if you join my cult" but it doesn't happen but say it was my intention it isn't propaganda

[glossy nebula]

You need an identityto think which the pale king gave his follower if they where close to the beacon

[old compass]

aura farming at one mask for no reason:

[ruby agate]

yes and the whole thing was with quirrel was that he lost all his memories after he left hallownest

i dont think the snail shamans that were constantly moving around kingdoms llost their memories

[slender juniper]

QUIRREL PREQUEL QUIRREL PREQUEL

[glossy nebula]

Shamans wherent moving across kingdoms

[slender juniper]

Actually how would a quirrel prequel work you Litteraly can't die

[ruby agate]

we have no proof of that but its likely

[unkempt dirge]

"Higher beings, these words are for you alone.
Beyond this point you enter the land of King and Creator.
Step across this threshold and obey our laws.
Bear witness to the last and only civilisation, the eternal Kingdom.
Hallownest"

[ruby agate]

"last and only civilisation" propaganda 🥹

[glossy nebula]

And quirel lost his mind because his previous identity was given by and only by the pale king beacon

[unkempt dirge]

you were talking about thinking

[glossy nebula]

It was at that time

[unkempt dirge]

which is inherently not true

[slender juniper]

Normal gameplay could explained it steelsoul mode is impossible

[ruby agate]

i know there's propaganda in that kng's pass thing i just didnt know it was that

[slender juniper]

What

[meager swan]

Idk masks or smth.

[unkempt dirge]

so this is just a false statement

[ruby agate]

..the weavers fled to pharloom slightly before the events of hollow knight

[glossy nebula]

It was made at a time other civilizations wherent that string, and pale king used it after to control his followers

[glossy nebula]

^

[unkempt dirge]

the only propaganda in hallownest is that it's the last civilization

that's it

[ruby agate]

nononononononono did you read hornet's dialogue in silksong

[slender juniper]

And only

[glossy nebula]

Which one

[ruby agate]

a lot of her character development is realising that pale king and her family were frauds

[slender juniper]

Other civilizations were a thing

[unkempt dirge]

she literally defends the white lady in her dialogue hAVE YOU read the dialogue

[ruby agate]

city of steel was and still is around 🤷‍♂️

[slender juniper]

Pharloom existed as long as hallownest or even loonger

[unkempt dirge]

she literally even states the kingsmoulds were of her fathers creation

[ruby agate]

SHE'S DEFENDING HER "you may view us as harsh or uncaring" DIALOGUE

[glossy nebula]

Nope, where did it mention it was around before that

[ruby agate]

IT HAS NOTHING O DO WITH THE WHOLE VESSELS

[glossy nebula]

All kingdoms at that time where destroyed

[slender juniper]

Can you stop screaming jesus

[slender juniper]

...this is just not true

[cosmic nest]

I’m gonna remind everyone and this is targeted please calm down

[glossy nebula]

How

[unkempt dirge]

yeah idk what myself is talking about

[slender juniper]

Pharloom is as old as hallownest and or older ,same could be same about city of steel, it's just propaganda

[unkempt dirge]

There were many and there still are other civilizatinos out there

[glossy nebula]

Show me proof of a kingdom's existence before that lore tablet was placed

[ruby agate]

son

we literally see members of thecity of steel in silksong TALK about recently leaving them

and theres a member of the city of steel in hollow knight that talks about leaving it a long time ago

[glossy nebula]

Pharloom isnt old

[slender juniper]

Are we deadass

[glossy nebula]

Recently* not that long ago

[glossy nebula]

Pharloom isnt old

[cosmic nest]

pharloom is just as old as hallownest assumedly

[slender juniper]

Did you completly missundestand the meaning of the old hearts

[glossy nebula]

Old hearts?

What is that

[ruby agate]

it came around as the same time as hallownest

areas that border hallownest in pharloom (bilewater, putrified ducts) have squits

guess what greenpath has bro

..squits

[slender juniper]

Yes act 3 bosses

Karmelita,Nyleth, King Khan, green prince

[glossy nebula]

Yeah and

[slender juniper]

All old rulers of Pharloom

[glossy nebula]

Karmelita is proof that pharloom isnt old

[slender juniper]

They're place was taken by gms

The kingdom is very old

[ruby agate]

no she's just very resillient

[subtle lynx]

They're

[glossy nebula]

It wasnt a kingdom back thwn

[ruby agate]

it was

[slender juniper]

Yes it was

[ruby agate]

it was multiple kingdoms to be more precise?

[glossy nebula]

It wasnt, why would groal fight the citadle then

[cosmic nest]

Timeline of pharloom IIRC is

ancient civilization

beast era

Old hearts

GMS

Citadel

Haunting

pharloom is insanely old

[ruby agate]

What

[slender juniper]

...what, because groal didn't exist

[glossy nebula]

No.

[slender juniper]

Bilewater didn't even exist

It used to be clear waters

[glossy nebula]

Bilewater was a civilization

Just listen to the ost

[slender juniper]

Exactly what tf is the point

[glossy nebula]

Oh crap

[ruby agate]

bilewater used to be clear and groal fought the citadel because they dumped the waste onto cleanwater and it became bilewater and the stilkin went "Oh my god bruh"

[glossy nebula]

I mest up

[unkempt dirge]

you realize she's meant to be a incredibly flawed anti hero right?

[ruby agate]

you're digging yourself in a deeper hole

[unkempt dirge]

like even at the end of the game she kinda sucks

[cosmic nest]

no?.

[slender juniper]

Bilewater was created after the creation of the citadel

[unkempt dirge]

yes?

[ruby agate]

..no?

[meager swan]

Bilewater WAS a civilization therefore Pharloom isn't old. Fantastic reasoning

[cosmic nest]

hornet literally saves pharloom

[slender juniper]

It used to be just like pale lake

[flat lynx]

wait didnt the citadel exist pre gms? and gms overtook it, and the citadel members attempted to subdue her which then resulted in the haunting?

[glossy nebula]

I qill make an argument

[ruby agate]

like only time where i see this is valid is the green prince thing and he was about to die either way man

[glossy nebula]

But later

[slender juniper]

No

Right now

[glossy nebula]

Ok let me boot up my laptop

[slender juniper]

Why

[flat lynx]

max you could say hornet is pretty morally grey but anti-hero is kind of a stretch

[glossy nebula]

Do do research and have a good argument?

[unkempt dirge]

he wasn't about to die

[cosmic nest]

Citadel was created by the weavers to show their “devotion” to her when in reality it was actually to lull her into sleep which is why the cocoon imagery is EVERYWHERE

[unkempt dirge]

he literally wasn't, he literally told her to leave him alone what are you talking about

[ruby agate]

he was about to give up on life

[unkempt dirge]

that's not said anywhere

[flat lynx]

ohhh right okay i might have misinterpreted game lore

[unkempt dirge]

at all

[ruby agate]

emotional storytelling i assume man

[unkempt dirge]

you're making things up

[cosmic nest]

it’s ok lore is really confusing

[glossy nebula]

I dont remember this line

[ruby agate]

like i dont think it needs to be in a lore tablet you just read his emotions

[unkempt dirge]

he wanted some time alone with his dead partner and she invaded his memories and ignored his requests idk what you're taling about

[meager swan]

Nah, the citadel was made by the weavers after they had imprisoned GMS. The place is just one giant cell for a lone prisoner

[fiery burrow]

WHAT is emotional storytelling bro

[queen acorn]

maybe if you didnt defeat marissa

[ruby agate]

he has NOTHING left bro

[unkempt dirge]

YO Star

good seeing you

[fiery burrow]

wassup

[glossy nebula]

But marissa's singing didnt let me sleep

[queen acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194349861148037154/1326906833746526240/cat.gif

[glossy nebula]

It let me stay awake and not get controlled by radiance

[flat lynx]

i would say its more like he had just lost all hope, which alludes to wanting to die but i feel like that was a side affect to him just wanting to spend the rest of his life next to his now automated lover

[queen acorn]

marissa got me infected by the radiance

[cunning geode]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-kamen-rider-den-o-den-o-momotaros-kamen-rider-momotaros-gif-2126596148436912701

[ruby agate]

yeah so he was just gonna die of old age doing nothing i feel like hornet just sped it up

[old compass]

hornet was there to console him because he was feeling very guilty about abondoning his kingdom, and green prince talked to hornet a few times in the memory and didn't tell her to leave. He only tell her to leave the memory at the end.

[fiery burrow]

ain't we all gonna die of old age

[glossy nebula]

Huh

[flat lynx]

i kinda like to think hornet didnt do it with the purpose to kill him, like shes canonically curious considering cutscenes n everything

[ruby agate]

thats cool i hope you green prince yourself

[glossy nebula]

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[queen acorn]

not nessecarily

[slender juniper]

Why

[inland ravine]

What

Oh

[glossy nebula]

Here

[slender juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-want-what-now-the-grinch-jim-carrey-angry-gif-15155225

[meager swan]

Omg Quirrel knew about silk :O
Is he secretly GMS in disguise?!

[unkempt minnow]

The best enemy names in hk and silksong are squirrm and obblobles

[queen acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450443178722459668/1489806922562408549/speed.gif

[cosmic nest]

https://klipy.com/gifs/zuko-facepalm

[ruby agate]

quirrel didnt die actually he just went back to pharloom to start th haunting

[fiery burrow]

I need to rewatch Grinch 2000

[short trout]

I feel like I could get a faster time here but I don't know how

[fiery burrow]

Peakest movie oat

[glossy nebula]

I need to reqarch avtar the last airbender

[unkempt dirge]

There's a huge contrast between quirrel

and green prince

[flat lynx]

nooo bro quirrel was actually apart of the void mass that saved hornet after defeating lost lace

[ruby agate]

im making a joke

about quirrel being gms

who mentioned the green prince

[glossy nebula]

Is the hunter's journal shade definition cannon?

[flat lynx]

barbed thingy

[ruby agate]

idk man LMAO we're js trusting a random kid

[slender juniper]

Yes

[glossy nebula]

Most of the ghosts we see arent shades, only shades are in the void

[fiery burrow]

sick

[glossy nebula]

They are happy little ghosts

[fiery burrow]

Sharpdart my beloved

[unkempt dirge]

shades are canon

[unkempt dirge]

well done

[glossy nebula]

Then why did the warriors dream become shades

And became dreams

[short trout]

Fair although I think weavelight helps me just as much in the 2nd phase

[slender juniper]

The only non cannon part about shades is that you magically respawn at a bench

[ruby agate]

what

[slender juniper]

But you know....game mechanics

[fiery burrow]

is bracelet not a yellow tool

[glossy nebula]

Then why dont we ser shades

[short trout]

Wait I am an idiot the barbed bracelet is a yellow tool not a blue one

[glossy nebula]

Other than in the void

[ruby agate]

cause theyre from void creatures

[flat lynx]

the barbed bracelet is a yellow tool, you could shove it in your vesticrest if you didnt have anything youd consider more important in there!!

[ruby agate]

i'd say compass would make the run faster

[glossy nebula]

It is said every person leaves behind a shade

Not onlt void creatures

[ruby agate]

...hornet leaves behind a cocoon

[flat lynx]

yeah bro you gotta know where seth is at all times

[slender juniper]

There's a shade in the caccoon

[glossy nebula]

I mean enemies

[ruby agate]

i dont think thats a shade

[flat lynx]

i think the journal says 'imprint on the world' which includes both hornets cocoon and the shades

[glossy nebula]

Ghosts are ghosts not shade

[slender juniper]

It is , a shade is a imprint you left on the world

[ruby agate]

....what?? why dont we see crust king's shade then he's long gone

[slender juniper]

Inside the shade is hornets Regreys

[glossy nebula]

From the false night to markoth

[glossy nebula]

They all become ghost

[slender juniper]

Shades aren't limited to vessels

[flat lynx]

bessel

[ruby agate]

bessel

[glossy nebula]

Thats what I am asking

[meager swan]

false night

[flat lynx]

wait doesnt he have like his carcass at the bottom of his tower which is what you use to enter

[ruby agate]

i think its because shades have nothing to do with this actually

[ruby agate]

thats his dead body man LMAO

[slender juniper]

a Shade only exists temporarily

[flat lynx]

i mean hey theres gotta be something there if elegy of the deep worked on it

[ruby agate]

why doesnt pilby drop a shade

[flat lynx]

even if its just the enviroment which provides a memory

[slender juniper]

Because he had no regrets

[ruby agate]

elegy of the deep goes into one's memories, he still has a brain in that tbody yknow

no i think he has regrets

Why didnt mort have a shade

[flat lynx]

wait wait, actually, have you been to nameless town? if you go all the way to the right and play the needolin you can see the remnants of a body before you get a memento, that technically counts right?

[slender juniper]

When hornet dies ,she has regrets of not being able to save a kingdom , thus forming a shade

[slender juniper]

Plot relevance

[meager swan]

I mean, ain't Krust King Khan technically not dead, more so just really dry? Splash a cup of water on him and he should be good to go.

[ruby agate]

same with the snail shamans i think they have regrets yeet they died INFRONT OF US

[glossy nebula]

Everyone has regrest

Regrets*, as said by that girl fron hk

[flat lynx]

hornets not part void but she does still leave an imprint on the world (cocoon), shades are specific to voids but imprints are not

[ruby agate]

HANK THERES A REASON HIS NAME IS CRUST KING KHANN AND NOT KRUST KING KHANN

HAAAAAAAAANK

-# do not abbreviate krust king khann

[slender juniper]

There's a shade Inside the caccoon

[glossy nebula]

Then why dont everyone leave an imprint

[glossy nebula]

Thats not a shade

[wind mulch]

no there isnt

[glossy nebula]

Thats just hornets little sister

[ruby agate]

didnt we have this conversation before silksong released

[flat lynx]

i mean i would say only certain entities or creatures have the ability to leave a physical imprint, while others have the ability to reveal the imprints, cus otherwise it would be rather crowded wouldnt it

[slender juniper]

When you break the caccoon,you see a small bit of void formed into hornets shape

[flat lynx]

is it really a shade tho? i would say thats maybe there cus shes part wyrm but not shade

[fiery burrow]

Everyone leaves an imprint on the world but that's more metaphorical in the case of the shade, which is the void inside a vessel

Hornet's cocoon is largely a gameplay thing

[glossy nebula]

I mean big warriors didnt leave imprints

[flat lynx]

cus of the whole foresight thing

[slender juniper]

Shade is the imprint you leave on the world

[wind mulch]

shades are void, the regret thing is a metaphor to justify a gameplay mechanic and reinforce themes, regret doesnt manifest as actual shades outside of the void siblings

[meager swan]

I forgot that it's crust and not krust. It just felt more right to go krust tbh but I an seeing mistake now that you point it out

[ruby agate]

hold on guys why doesnt karmelita leave an imprint i mean

we literally kill her while she's alive no haunting no anything

[slender juniper]

Shades aren't void

[fiery burrow]

So true

[wind mulch]

im gonna kill you

[flat lynx]

they did, act 3 bosses (specifically crust king khann and nyleth) both had memorials/ areas in which hornet could use elegy of the deep to access

[ruby agate]

why doesnt the green prince lave one his WHOLE THING is regret

[opaque sigil]

it doesn't even literally manifest as regret in the case of vessels literally shades just represent pk's regret as well as a sorta meta nod to players and the noncanon respawn mechanic

[ruby agate]

im looking too far into it lmao

[slender juniper]

Hornet has a shade

[ruby agate]

i think that means their.. blood...

[wind mulch]

metaphor bro, themes bro

[flat lynx]

nooo the shades are what void/part void creatures leave behind, the imprint on the world thing was a side comment the hunter made to highlight both the games mechanic and a deeper delve into the lore of the world

[slender juniper]

Inside her caccon

[fiery burrow]

themes and such

[flat lynx]

this is not solitarily in reference to the shade

[slender juniper]

Then what is that inside her caccon

[fiery burrow]

Hunter wouldn't comment on the shade/void for obvious reasons

[ruby agate]

Thats not a shade thats her dead body in her cocoon withering away

[ruby agate]

like i think that was obvious idk

[glossy nebula]

They wherent dead their hearts where still beating

[wind mulch]

yea i just worded that badly lowk i didnt even mean it like that

[slender juniper]

Are we sure , because she's right there

[flat lynx]

cant be a shade, i would say its in relation to her wyrm ancestry cus the pale king had the power of foresight which he likely handed on to his children

[ruby agate]

Son you literally revive in this game you cannot be talking about "because she;s right there"

[slender juniper]

Yes

She's right there

[opaque sigil]

respawn ain't diegetic in either game

[slender juniper]

In front of her withering dead body

[ruby agate]

i dont think you canonically respawn at benches man

[glossy nebula]

Then how did the child be in both hornet and the cacoon

The little parasite

[wind mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-boy-aborddelimpala-the-boys-words-up-gif-26118496

[flat lynx]

bro

[slender juniper]

Too many questions

[glossy nebula]

The parasitr

In the cursed mode

[slender juniper]

That's just unanswerable

Caccoons are gameplay relevance ig

[glossy nebula]

That is because caccoons are just hornet being schizophrenic

[slender juniper]

Players have a skill issue so you need a way to respwan

[glossy nebula]

They dont exist

[meager swan]

"Dunno, shi looks cool tho" - Team Cherry, probably

[ruby agate]

isnt it cocoon

[slender juniper]

I'm not sure

[flat lynx]

best way to link it to the lore even somehwat is the whole foresight thing, where both hornet and the knight have the ability to see into the future and the only timeline possible is the ones where they win and survive

[glossy nebula]

Also why did the vessel we walk up on hornet killing dont release no shade nor a dream

[flat lynx]

cus like dont they both canonically win everything in one try

[wind mulch]

we're just saying shit

[glossy nebula]

Oh wait when we interact with him we meet with the dreamers

[slender juniper]

Nope it's an A

[ruby agate]

i think tthe whole foresight thing has a limit to it cause wouldnt he just think of the radiance before she comes back

or its propaganda

[wind mulch]

its cocoon

[glossy nebula]

He only thinks of himself

[wind mulch]

the stock image misspelled it

[slender juniper]

And steelsoul mode is what then

[flat lynx]

yeah i think there were limits to it

[glossy nebula]

He didnt realise that radiance coming back would loose him that many followers

[flat lynx]

permadeath, it just doesnt give you that game mechanic

[slender juniper]

[flat lynx]

the failed chosen one route

[glossy nebula]

How does it contain quests and npcs only seeable in it

[flat lynx]

??? what do you mean

[torn tangle]

Whats the best build testing place before bellhart

[ruby agate]

" we thought it was cool"

[glossy nebula]

The steel people

[slender juniper]

You could say the steel people only visit you...if you have a steel soul

[ruby agate]

i think a lot of these questions could be answered with "its cool"

[flat lynx]

dude i dont think theres a lore explaination to everything, i just think its cool theres stuff unique to the gamemode

[flat lynx]

yoo

[torn tangle]

Steel city is mentioned in the cradle

[ruby agate]

that is literally the reason silksong was omega delayed

[slender juniper]

Team cherry what do you think about adding the most overpowered tool but it's only in steelsoul mode "we think it's cool"

[torn tangle]

possibly related

[ruby agate]

you cant die so shell shards needed a different thing

[flat lynx]

wait whats this in reference to

[slender juniper]

Shell satchel

+1/2 pouches

For free

[still osprey]

Tool pouches, not crafting kits

[slender juniper]

Because it's a yellow tool so basically for free

[slender juniper]

Yes indeed,I'm very tired today

[toxic vigil]

Hi

[meager swan]

Hello, Rocket Gunner

[flat lynx]

what do you guys reckon is the worst place to traverse in sk for the first playthrough blindly

[toxic vigil]

bilewater without double jump
mist

[ruby agate]

sinner's road

[meager swan]

Hunter's March

[wind mulch]

do you think hornet looksmaxxes

[cunning geode]

sinners road or bilewater are up there

[toxic vigil]

hunter's march is only bad without dash

[flat lynx]

what is there to looksmax bro she has a mask on

i guess she can

[wind mulch]

thats her face

[flat lynx]

shave it down?

[flat lynx]

???????

[meager swan]

That is not her face bruh

[wind mulch]

yea it is

[torn tangle]

Its both

[cunning geode]

anyways 62 foot (19 meter) prehistoric cretaceous octopus discovered a couple days ago

[wind mulch]

how could it possibly be both

[torn tangle]

she has exactly the same face under the mask

[flat lynx]

like at most its attached to her semi permanently but thats not her face

[wind mulch]

it is just her actual face

[meager swan]

Her entire body is black. Do you not think that her head would also be the same colour as her body?

[wind mulch]

its the same when shes a kid in red memory

[cunning geode]

it can happen…

[flat lynx]

or like a snail shell situation

[wind mulch]

unless she has a a gazillion masks of increasing size to match her growth

also no one ever says its a mask

[torn tangle]

Thats what mask maker is for

[flat lynx]

i guess technically humans do that with clothes

[meager swan]

Clothing

[wind mulch]

thats just her face

[toxic vigil]

silksong hog time

[flat lynx]

nah bro i feel like at most this is like a snail shell situation, this is also like saying that hornets cloak is a part of her body cus it grows with her

it doesnt which is what im sayin

[cunning geode]

explode

[flat lynx]

i wouldnt be surprised if shes changed it out

[toxic vigil]

dash attacks suck 😭

[torn tangle]

Where is the best area to test new crest builds before bellhart?

[fiery burrow]

I mean her siblings were born with the face too

[flat lynx]

prolly greymoor

[torn tangle]

Ok

[flat lynx]

snail shell!!!

[toxic vigil]

find some boss
reload save after beating without saving

[wind mulch]

stop with the snail shell

[fiery burrow]

Yea they're bugs their faces are shells

[meager swan]

Too answer this question, Hornet 100% looksmaxxes. I don't know what it means but she does it

[wind mulch]

if its like a snail shell then isnt it just part of her

like thatd mean its just her face

[strange knot]

Genuinely moss mother is like the worst boss in the game

[short trout]

Yea I forgot that it's a yellow tool. I used it for this run although I don't think it helped me as much as I hoped it would.

[flat lynx]

thats what im saying, its a compromise/middle ground for the argument idk

[flat lynx]

yo you saved 3 seconds

[short trout]

Still a faster time tho

[wind mulch]

i dont do compromise

[short trout]

So thank you

[flat lynx]

i thought we were discussing damn

[flat lynx]

no problem!!

[wind mulch]

no we're enemies now

mortal enemies

[meager swan]

Hornet Girlbossmaxxes

[flat lynx]

oh right wait

actually ALL components of hornet are detatchable

[old compass]

dang that's crazy

[wind mulch]

dont ever let me catch you anywhere in the south atlantic

[flat lynx]

wait deal as long as i have everything else

[subtle skiff]

I just looked this up ngl thank god theyre extinct thats fucked up

[wind mulch]

oh yea i saw that

finned octopus

some evidence that it had similar intelligence to modern octopuses as well

[flat lynx]

how long would you lot take to type 600 words out for a topic youre decently well versed in

[wind mulch]

like

10 minutes

no

like 15 minutes

[flat lynx]

see like thats decent time

1h 30 minutes is insane

[subtle skiff]

Assuming im well versed enough to not have to think/research much like 10 minutes

[wind mulch]

it depends on the writing style as well

[flat lynx]

give maybe just a bit of wiggle room for the natural pauses id say as well

[wind mulch]

is it like an analytical piece or like descriptive or whatever

[flat lynx]

like a combination of both? more descriptive though

[unkempt dirge]

I am here to ask you all hallownest prime vs pharloom prime who wins, and prime means prior to the infection and haunting so yk no hornet or hollow knight, no lace or gms or phantom

[unkempt dirge]

just the kingdoms at their peaks

[toxic vigil]

i forgot trobbio explodes with his spawn

[unkempt dirge]

I am here to test all of your knowledge on hollow knights two kingdoms if I may

[flat lynx]

prolly hallownest

i do like pharloom better but disregarding personal opinion hallownest lowkey wins

[wind mulch]

yea not long then

[toxic vigil]

trobbio is a very unique fight..

[flat lynx]

gotta do a writing task but not only is it typed out but the goal is 600 words for a whopping hour and thirty minutes for some reason

[slender juniper]

Trobbio Can die in hell

[wind mulch]

thats insane

[slender juniper]

He ended a good run

[wind mulch]

i guess if ur younger and new to essay writing

[flat lynx]

i know right? ive got the option of either tryharding and writing double or just lazing around

[slender juniper]

What the fuck are essays good for

[flat lynx]

nah dude everyone here is definetely capable of more, i guess i cant really be speaking for everyone but like still

[unkempt minnow]

guess video

[slender juniper]

Like why am I forced to do essays if I'm not going to do a career with writing

[flat lynx]

exactly bro its genuinely infuriating having to sit through this

[wind mulch]

writing is a really good skill in almost any career

[subtle skiff]

I mean id accept half an hour, the 30wpm crowd has to be able to finish the assignment after all but 90 mins is crazy work

[slender juniper]

This is just...wrong

[wind mulch]

it isnt

[subtle skiff]

It absolutely isnt lol

[unkempt minnow]

well why can you fail school because the teacher didnt think your art is good enough 😭 ||(or they just hate you)||

[subtle skiff]

Also, being able to actually critically look at a text is something that should if anything be taught even more

[toxic vigil]

word requirements are just stupid in essays like
if i got my point across in 350 why would i need to go to 400

[slender juniper]

Macdonalds is my career

[wind mulch]

essay writing develops ur ability to articulate as well

[flat lynx]

i get if its for better literacy rates but some of this stuff just doesnt assist that, i feel like vocabulary kind of gets shoved under the rug but its still implied the later you go on through life so i feel like half of everyone just ends up saying a whole lotta nothing

[flat lynx]

100%

[slender juniper]

I know my vocabulary I just can't think of anything to write

[wind mulch]

i love writing essays

[slender juniper]

Also I'm not in an American shcool so we're not forced to do essays as often

[wind mulch]

so much more fun than stem for me

[flat lynx]

its also excruciating the amount of assignments ive had to cut down on words for cus ive gone over the word limit only to be marked down for not being discriptive enough

[slender juniper]

The last essay I had was the English teacher just gave us papers and told us to write about anything

[flat lynx]

bruh lucky i wouldve just written about whatever i was nerding out about at the time

[strange knot]

bruh what are these shards

[wind mulch]

i got a 3k word essay due in a week bruh

[toxic vigil]

127 away from trobbio

[wind mulch]

c'est fini

[strange knot]

tfym 10 ive never seen anyone get that

[flat lynx]

goddamn bro thats like 12 pages

[wind mulch]

yea

[slender juniper]

My English class is actually super easy

[flat lynx]

is it just a solid essay? like 12 sheets of words or a report where you can include images and stuff

[ruby agate]

is it just me who doesnt like the artstyle chsange that happened to silksong in 2021

the 2019 trailer looks much prettier at times

[wind mulch]

wait till you find out how long my dissertation has to be

[wind mulch]

no its a solid essay

[plush pendant]

Those are for replenishing tools after you used them

[slender juniper]

Guess what, when you already speak a language it's easy when you get a class is supposed to teach you that language

Also our English teacher is super chill

[toxic vigil]

bruh

[strange knot]

I’m speedrunning true ending and 10 shards is a criminal amount to get on the first room

[flat lynx]

i think its cus they ended up blurring the background a ton more, still though the switch from hk to sk had a massive quality difference but if only silksong kept the more 3d aspect

[rancid stag]

hello everynyan

[flat lynx]

eughh good luck man

[wind mulch]

cheers

[ruby agate]

the coloring also got much worse lmao

[flat lynx]

how long?

[wind mulch]

its fine its a utilitarianism essay so it should be fine

[wind mulch]

like 15k bro

[slender juniper]

Am I the only European here

[wind mulch]

im european

[toxic vigil]

i am also european

[rancid stag]

i'm british

[slender juniper]

Which part

[wind mulch]

🇬🇧

[slender juniper]

EWW

[flat lynx]

oh hey thats not that bad of a topic

[slender juniper]

Double brits

[still osprey]

I'm european

[flat lynx]

FIFTEEN

[slender juniper]

Thank god

[wind mulch]

yea theres a lot to talk about

[rancid stag]

which kind

[ruby agate]

im african yo 🥹

[strange knot]

I am too

[slender juniper]

Whicj kind

[still osprey]

Greek

[ruby agate]

egyptian

[toxic vigil]

i am from poland 🇵🇱

[flat lynx]

whys everyone here from europe 😭

[wind mulch]

yea but u get close to a year to do it, and you can pick any topic

[short trout]

I'll take that as a compliment

[wind mulch]

so its not that bad

[ruby agate]

im egyptian son dont group me into yall

[slender juniper]

Get Europe'd,,my sodas actually don't make me die

[flat lynx]

thats actually gold tbh

[meager swan]

Rewatching the 2019 trailer. Bro the Wisp Thicket enemies were gonna be in Greymoor. Even more of a hell back then

[flat lynx]

i dont drink soda

[wind mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/gecky-and-friends-good-morning-draxl-european-europe-gif-4872798566234679874

[flat lynx]

wait where in the world are sodas deadly

[ruby agate]

look at how much cooler trobbio is son

[slender juniper]

Good for you

Difference versus american and EU fanta

[flat lynx]

holy crap

[toxic vigil]

okay i give up on rad tormented trobbio who do i go now

[flat lynx]

this is only pushing me further away from soda

[still osprey]

Zango

[undone gate]

Which Bosses Rad have you not done yet

[flat lynx]

karmelita

[toxic vigil]

done

[toxic vigil]

done

[ruby agate]

do crawfather

[flat lynx]

phantom

[ruby agate]

look at the INSANE glowdown that happened to bellhart

[toxic vigil]

alright

[meager swan]

It kinda just looked the same except his stage had lacefly chandeliers

[still osprey]

Crawfather is an awesome radiant

[ruby agate]

and the coloring was much much nicer

[short trout]

I don't think there is a way I can kill Phantom before the 2nd phase. It costs me so much time

[flat lynx]

im genuinely torn cus the graphics do look better on the right, but the mood of the first + better colouring wouldve been SO much better

[slender juniper]

I don't recomended checking the ingredients in your meels USA's approach is "safe until proven dangerous" in the rest of the world it's "dangerous until proven safe"

[ruby agate]

same with cogwork core bro cogwork core looked GREAT

[strange knot]

There is but it requires tools I think

[flat lynx]

isnt the second phase initiated as soon as phantom reaches half health?

[wind mulch]

americans have good bbq tho

[meager swan]

Also Skarsinger Karmelita sounded so different back then and I'm glad they changed it to what we have now since it used to sound so bad

[flat lynx]

im not in the us either lmao

[slender juniper]

Thank god

[flat lynx]

but good to note

[short trout]

Well not if I deal damage to her fast enough. She enters it pretty late here. Just at 100 hp.

[undone gate]

I have literally only fought Crawfather once I should fight him more times

[ruby agate]

like look at how much prettier this is

[flat lynx]

genuinely dodged a bullet

[toxic vigil]

circlet time

[meager swan]

Sherma sounded more like Grindle back in the day

[strange knot]

It isn’t

[ruby agate]

i prefer that we need more puntable gremlins in media

[slender juniper]

USA is actually probably the worst country to live in , imagine breaking an arm and being fucking fined ,I'm so privilaged😭

[ruby agate]

i dont like sherma he's TOO innocent to the point he has no other personality

[flat lynx]

i didnt know that! ive seen some bosses only enter phase 2 at half health while others dont, its a bit odd but fun to watch

[strange knot]

I used to be a Sherma glazer but now I think he is kinda annoying but I don’t speak to him anyway so

[flat lynx]

grew up seeing what i thought were jokes about severely injured people riding off their adrenaline to up and run away from ambulences only to find out that none of those were satire or exaggerated

[sharp slate]

yea i would definetely rather live in north korea or myanmar

[ruby agate]

sherma's overrated where's my moss druid fans

[wind mulch]

i would choose europe in every lifetime but come on america isnt THAT bad

america is amazing in comparison to most

[torpid shoal]

U done p5 in hk yet

[slender juniper]

Yes

[meager swan]

Frey looks so different

[toxic vigil]

yes
i had to for radhog

[hybrid flare]

They're not allat as they're mostly there to protect the city and wouldnt really do much against silk users and giant clankers

[slender juniper]

I thought people were joking about tap water being unhealthy

[hybrid flare]

Yeah they're big and that's it

[ruby agate]

YEAH I DONT GET WHY SHE JUST BECAME A REGULARR PILGRIM THATS SO BORING

[torpid shoal]

What does radhog mean

[flat lynx]

TAP WATER ISNT DRINKABLE IN AMERICA?

[ruby agate]

radiant hog rider

[undone gate]

Radient Hall Of God

[slender juniper]

Yes

[sharp slate]

I honestly would still choose US over europe, i pay for insurance so the most i will ever pay at a hospital is 1000, and thats if it is something insanely serious

[toxic vigil]

crawfather done

[sharp slate]

thats not fucknig true

[slender juniper]

You have to install a filter to drink tap water

[opal pelican]

hollow knight silksong

[sharp slate]

No you dont

[wind mulch]

most american tap water is drinkable lmao

[unkempt dirge]

they are literally showcased to not just be city guards

[undone gate]

What Bosses have you not done hitless yet

[unkempt dirge]

we see them in various locations and are said to be skilled

[quartz gulch]

What is that even supposed to mean?

[ruby agate]

did you like him

[flat lynx]

dude considering everything i thought they would have at least that but holy crap, thats something i just reserved to more third world regions

[sharp slate]

This is where shit is stupid you make things up to make it sound worse

[opal pelican]

wrong i drank from my sink once and my jaw melted off

[unkempt dirge]

you can't ignore in game statements calling them a threat

[hybrid flare]

We do not see any actual battle

[sharp slate]

its not fucking true thats why

[meager swan]

Omg Garmond sounded so different back in 2019. rewatching this trailer is so weird man

[slender juniper]

Then why do I keep seeing that tap water is unhealthy on the internet

[hybrid flare]

Yeah they're threatening even to hunter and that is impressive but they're not really comparable to choruses

[unkempt dirge]

the choir literally was made to just subjugate their own people

[unkempt dirge]

To the choir bugs they are

in at least blade skill

[wind mulch]

a lot of people claim treated tap water is bad for u, like the clean kind

[sharp slate]

Yes the internet is always right, not play people are trying to force shove filters down your throat to get rid

[ruby agate]

high halls looks much more vintage it cant just be me who like shtis right

[hybrid flare]

Theres also the possibility to them quarreling with nearby kingdoms if they did exist in similar timeframes

[sharp slate]

A lot of filters are also used for hard water, which all hard water isnt bad for you

[strange knot]

It looks too similar to choral chambers

[toxic vigil]

lugoli, seth, nyleth, watcher, unraveled, purple trobbio, brood mother, clover dancers, bell eater, shakra, pinstress, 1st sinner and all 3 laces

[ruby agate]

Also is that a SURGEON in high halls

[hybrid flare]

Grand reeds would likely be on their level especially with their silk usage

[slender juniper]

Wtf

[hybrid flare]

why did you return to this convo 4 eons later

[flat lynx]

i wouldnt rule out areas not having these facilities but are the prominent amount of tap water filter ads soley for removing minerals/ additives into water or because its unsafe?

[wind mulch]

im not even american but we gotta stop the slander on pointless/untrue things

[unkempt dirge]

don't ask friend XD

[slender juniper]

Drinking clean water is BAD FOR YOU!?

[flat lynx]

if there are any in the first place

[hybrid flare]

Yeah but what they can do is much more impressive even then

[wind mulch]

well no but certain people claim it is

[quartz gulch]

If we were to take both the Citadel (Conductor) and Hallownest at their prime and compare them, Hallownest is miles stronger.

[wind mulch]

because of the methods used to treat it

[hybrid flare]

We're talking about pure infantry

[undone gate]

Do Seth he shouldn't be too hard other than his Shield Throw

[sharp slate]

The main threat to drinking water exists with older infrastructure an EXTREME example that is not common is flint michigan which actually is now SIGNFICANTLY better than what it was

[hybrid flare]

because pharloom doesnt really have a god that would fight for the citadel

[unkempt dirge]

we get information on the citadel and they never had to deal with any conflict

[toxic vigil]

seth is the hardest thing here bro 😭

[slender juniper]

Germany ads minerals to your tap water

[sharp slate]

fuck there are probably houses in europe with old pipage still that is not healthy like lead paint for example before people knew the effect

[hybrid flare]

its unclear but they could've fought with skarrs and karak

[ruby agate]

HOLY SHIT BRO DEEP DOCKS ENTRANCE USED TO BE BEAUTIFUL WHERE DID THIS ROOMG O????

[unkempt dirge]

they didn't

[flat lynx]

ah thats probably where this rhetoric originates from

[subtle skiff]

It doesnt help that america treats their water with chlorine, which you can taste from what ive heard

[ruby agate]

i think silksong's old coloring and background blur used to be way more pretty

[unkempt dirge]

the karakans are said to have been taken out by gms remember

[hybrid flare]

saturated mess

[wind mulch]

that would for sure be resolved by now

[flat lynx]

that goes for most regions though, old systems which still have yet to be updated

[wind mulch]

Europe is very strict on such things

[hybrid flare]

it would be neat if we got clarification

[ruby agate]

lava's quite saturated actually

[slender juniper]

"I LOVE PUTTING LEAD ON MY SKIN"-women 1800

[wind mulch]

well most of europe

[quartz gulch]

What does this include then? That would technically only leave the Citadel with its Choir Bug Soldiers.

[hybrid flare]

The background looks messy and incoherent imo

[sharp slate]

Yea, but the home owner would need to know that as well wouldnt it

[fiery burrow]

Wait are people saying tap water is undrinkable here 😭

[meager swan]

Threefold pins, tacks, curveclaw, druid's eye, scuttlebrace all look different. Dunno what that weaver one is

[toxic vigil]

background blurr
honestly i like it more

[hybrid flare]

Basically the avg joe soldier and some heavy ones that would be used in a conflict

[slender juniper]

Actually who the fuck though it was a good idea to put lead on actors

[wind mulch]

yea

[fiery burrow]

I'm dying its so over

[wind mulch]

c'est fini

[subtle skiff]

This isnt to say chlorine in water treatment is inherently unsafe obviously but different tast and a "chemical name" are really all you need for people to fearmonger

[meager swan]

THAT'S WHAT WEAVER SHRINES LOOKED LIKE BACK THEN?! The silk around it looked so cool

[flat lynx]

i dont think it was widely identified to be a harmful thing back then, same with cigarettes which were at some point even perscribed

[unkempt dirge]

the citadel choir trained on silk while the hallownest sentries trained in blade

[ruby agate]

the entrance to the marrow also had some of the light flow in which i think looks really nice

[unkempt dirge]

and being nimble

[quartz gulch]

Before I get out the pictures and such, do you want to even argument?

[undone gate]

Tormented Trobbio is harder but otherwise there are a lot of other easy Bosses

[wind mulch]

to be fair if i was around back in the day i also wouldnt suspect that a certain metal is trying to kill me

[toxic vigil]

true

[unkempt dirge]

the hunter's journals speak of the incredibly training the choir went through when it comes to learning to wield silk nubbie

[torpid shoal]

Where are you getting these

[ruby agate]

2019 reveal trailer

[unkempt dirge]

whilst the sentries were talked about their extensive training in blade

[fiery burrow]

Its not as bad as the DHMO contamination

[flat lynx]

i mean its even possible that some of the things we consume today has a direct link to cancer or something

[unkempt dirge]

and movement also hi again star

[wind mulch]

i cant believe americans have never drank water before

[wind mulch]

its certain bruh

[flat lynx]

have any guesses 💔

[slender juniper]

Actually Americans don't drink water they're aliens

[torpid shoal]

Nyleth and first summer will be fun

[subtle skiff]

Yeah its not just possible its literally proven for a bunch of shit lmao

[old compass]

Americans don't exist vro

[toxic vigil]

first summer

[light swan]

Bro is never recovering from this 😭 💀 🥀

[wind mulch]

im almost certain monster energy is doing irreparable damage to my insides

[hybrid flare]

Yeah pharloom's infantry mogs

[quartz gulch]

Technically anything is deadly if the wrong amount is taken. Sugar can be just as healthy as unhealthy, it just depends on the person.

[torpid shoal]

I thought you meant watcher as in lurien the watcher 😭😭

[unkempt dirge]

hallownest has in game SAID glories and battles

[flat lynx]

awww bro for sure

[hybrid flare]

No they also have quite remarkable skills, even though they're a bit brutish similar to the weavers

[quartz gulch]

[plush plover]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-sonic-stare-goku-stare-fading-in-sonic-gif-10920636751851585195

[meager swan]

Also hallownest trained it's biggest soldiers in the ways of the shield. Shields are very helpful

[undone gate]

The explosive balls thrown by Tormented Trobbio in the air is really hard to dodge I usually up slash to deflect them

[hybrid flare]

Which likely were won by their soul users and theres no detail whatsoever on the quarrels

[ruby agate]

whiteward also looked nicer not gonna lie man

[old compass]

sorry what are we talking about

[hybrid flare]

and great knights

[wind mulch]

just the fact america doesnt have water

[flat lynx]

i was so curious about monster cus i was never really a big caffiene person, plus those stupid pinterest images of people claiming they were adjacent to other substances pissed me off so bad i just had to give one a go

[wind mulch]

like any water at all

[opal pelican]

me eating a large burger

[old compass]

how come

[unkempt dirge]

ogrim states about 3 great glories and states that there's a lot more and mentions an entire pale court with a ton of unknown to us heroes and great high ranking warriors

[exotic cedar]

This looks like deep docks

[flat lynx]

made me tired if anything

[ruby agate]

mortician in deep docks yeah man

[wind mulch]

im not sure but i suspect it has something to do with france

[toxic vigil]

i would never live in the usa
canada maybe

[unkempt dirge]

That's more then pharloomever did

[subtle skiff]

Dont let nestle hear that they'll start invading other countries

[hybrid flare]

Yeah that would not be infantry though

[exotic cedar]

New whiteward is definetly better

[slender juniper]

That's what caffeine does, you get an energy rush for a bit and then get tired

[hybrid flare]

And maybe those are badges of honor to some soldiers that did something

[unkempt dirge]

Hallownest had little to no soul users though you know this nubbie

[heady iron]

Team cherry decided to make areas look worse for the sake of "clarity" and "contrast" 🙄

[flat lynx]

i like how whiteward has the more eerie/pale/white aesthetic to it rn tbh

[ruby agate]

this room looks WAY better man idk what to tell you

like, the current trobbio arena is so ass

[hybrid flare]

It had the pk and that's enough tbf

[wind mulch]

we need to kill Philipp Navratil bro

[unkempt dirge]

okay yes the pk is like the second strongest higher being and top 5 strongest character so yeah

[slender juniper]

Why is it so dark

[fiery burrow]

the one comment of a 13 year old thinking he got high off of monster

[flat lynx]

the thing is though i didnt really get a noteable energy rush, i was already tired and it just straight went to making me even more drowsy, i have read how caffiene can have different impacts on different individuals though

[quartz gulch]

So we gonna ignore the entire half of the city dedicated to using soul?

[unkempt dirge]

also sentries are scattered across hallownest territory nubbie

[flat lynx]

bro dont even get me started its so bad out there

[hybrid flare]

Plus they had the knights which yk are pretty strong

[heady iron]

Are we powerscaling now

No one touches goku

[subtle skiff]

We need to exile like, the entire us administration first gang

[hybrid flare]

They're only near the city

[unkempt dirge]

they're in the ancient basin, protecting ismas grove, (some corpses can be found in fungal wastes) resting grounds

they aren't in only the city

[flat lynx]

placebo effect is just embarassing as a general, it has its positives but it cringes me out so bad in these cases

[quartz gulch]

Is infantry anyone that has the job of fighting, or anyone capable of fighting (with training, not Pilgrim Joe or whoever).

[ruby agate]

it gets more bright after he does his intro scream

WHICH IS WAY BETTER BY THE WAY HE SOUNDED WAY COOLER

[wind mulch]

if only

but unfortunately it is over

[hybrid flare]

Army joes

[unkempt dirge]

Yes I know hegemol is like top 5 strongest mortal bugs

[exotic cedar]

The color of the new one is better atleast for me

[fiery burrow]

Back when Trobbio was an NPC

Yeah I think the gold fits the Citadel more

[unkempt dirge]

Nubbie do we need to include hegemol in

[light swan]

🫃

[hybrid flare]

Sentries? oh i thought you meant the big ones, yeah those would get folded by a choristor

[unkempt dirge]

what no?

[hybrid flare]

nope he's not the avg soldier is he

[quartz gulch]

For example, does Second Sentinel count? By pure duty it is a protector, so it technically wouldn't count as a soldier and hence not as part of the infantry.

[fiery burrow]

Old trailers felt more alive but at the same time washed out color wise cuz they artstyle wasn't as developed

[hybrid flare]

I dont count 2nd sentinel yeah

[unkempt dirge]

okay tahnk god

[fiery burrow]

Especially the 2022 trailer thank god that didn't make the cut 🙏

[wind mulch]

one of my core memories is my friend at age 10 drinking a mocktail and walking into a door because he thought he was drunk

[unkempt dirge]

the sentries are the ones being told to be skilled in general

[heady iron]

Graywater

[hybrid flare]

Idk how hegemol would take soul powers though

[toxic vigil]

alright doing 1st sinner now

[unkempt dirge]

he's literally top 5 strongest mortal bugs man

[hybrid flare]

You've seen the grace of how choristors fight i dont think that means much

[unkempt dirge]

we literally get told he was a complete behemoth and legend

[heady iron]

Bro got folded by a maggot

[quartz gulch]

Last question before I determine all soldiers of the Citadel, do Judges count? I think not, but they are moreso in a grey area than most other bugs.

[hybrid flare]

heroes of war are usually glorified a lot yeah, but hegemol is still strong

[unkempt dirge]

that's because their minds are still in tact?

[flat lynx]

im getting such bad secondhand embarrasment right now holy

[hybrid flare]

Im mainly using the choir and robots

[unkempt dirge]

in hallownest it's said that some remants of the sentries skills remain

[hybrid flare]

They've been dead for a while their minds arent completely intact

[unkempt dirge]

you know what I mean

[hybrid flare]

Pointless ahh discussion as its js powerscaling

[unkempt dirge]

the haunted bugs can seem cunning and intelligient while the infected are beasts

[hybrid flare]

I mean not always, they do what gms thinks

[exotic cedar]

The one i like more is the better one

[unkempt dirge]

he's literally top 5 strongest mortal bugs nubbie

[wind mulch]

is the pk multiversal 🤔

[hybrid flare]

where did you get this from

[quartz gulch]

The automatons are definitely not part of the army the Citadel has, they're purpose is completely different.

[hybrid flare]

made up list of the top 5 💔

[fiery burrow]

dream realm and the waking world count as different verses trust

And he's in both

[hybrid flare]

Choruses are ig

[unkempt dirge]

we got the hearts, vespa above him

[wind mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-barbenheimer-gif-6192154597275743500

[heady iron]

Primal aspid no diffs everyone though am I right guys 😂

[wind mulch]

pk solos ur favourite verse

[hybrid flare]

Hornet would likely also mog in her post ss state

[slender juniper]

PK is dead

[fiery burrow]

only with wayward compass LMFAO

[hybrid flare]

and maybe tk

[wind mulch]

no hes just sitting really really still

[toxic vigil]

1st sinner peak sinner

[flat lynx]

didnt the knight knock him over

[meager swan]

The simple Soul Twister no diff Primal Aspid

[slender juniper]

He kinda ...falls apart

[wind mulch]

yea he can do that

he has mystical abilities

hes just cool like that

[meager swan]

Kiss his boo-boo and he'll get over it. It's fine

[marsh kiln]

Hi guys

[flat lynx]

now does a corpse count as a boo boo

[wind mulch]

why didnt he just hold B to focus

[fiery burrow]

But what is death for that ancient being? More transformation methinks

[wind mulch]

is he stupid

[subtle skiff]

Pks just aura farming

[marsh kiln]

Hey i just met you!

[flat lynx]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yeah-speed-ishowspeed-D63HGAzG15LQrjBPRE

[slender juniper]

What if he had no soul

To focus

[flat lynx]

he has so many wingsmoulds literally just step outside

[slender juniper]

Too much effort

[fiery burrow]

He prolly had infinite soul

Creating Kingsoul and all that

[wind mulch]

u would think with infinite soul and foresight he would be a bit more locked in

[flat lynx]

nono but what if he used his infinite source to create the kingsmould and that was why it was all depleted

[fiery burrow]

We was locked in his kingdom was glorious

[flat lynx]

if pk had foresight why didnt he just stop the radiance earlier on

[slender juniper]

His kingdom has slavery

[wind mulch]

he built his capital below a constantly leaking lake

[slender juniper]

The maggots are connonical slaves

[fiery burrow]

This ain't pharloom

Maggots weren't slaves people were just racist

[dreamy tangle]

which ones should i change?

[wind mulch]

do u think he saw the constant rain and was like oh yea now this is going to have hella aura

[slender juniper]

No stag says it

[fiery burrow]

???

[slender juniper]

In city storerooms

[fiery burrow]

?????

[strange knot]

Why do you not have witch

[unkempt dirge]

he doesn't

[dreamy tangle]

pretend the blue vesticrest in architect is reserve bind

[dreamy tangle]

too lazy

[slender juniper]

"many bugs we're used to transport creates without they're consent"

[flat lynx]

i only really see a possible other blue slot tool for beasts instead of the mirror, but everything else is pretty decent

[fiery burrow]

The rain is implied to be a recent phenomenon yet the City of Tears architecture is designed around it

[toxic vigil]

my first boss tierlist

[fiery burrow]

This is but one genius application of his holy foresight

[unkempt dirge]

no

[wind mulch]

that made me laugh out loud

[unkempt dirge]

that's made up

[dreamy tangle]

phantom in S immediately correct opinion