#sk-discussion

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tight meadow
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As corpses yeah they ain't as strong but as normal

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They easily make it

ocean quarry
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yeah that's exactly my point

main urchin
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She’s spending her whole body’s silk to sustain that

ocean quarry
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all pilgrims, including sherma, can do parkour

ocean quarry
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they just suck at combat

main urchin
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That, plus the void in the floor eating more, is why she’s basically nude in act 3

narrow bramble
main urchin
tight meadow
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I'd argue she doesn't have clothes at all so she's technically always nude

rough anvil
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If lifeblood is some vile ass shit why didnt hornet plant it everywhere in the cradle and wait

main urchin
ocean quarry
tight meadow
main urchin
exotic dome
ocean quarry
tight meadow
light swan
# exotic dome

what….
is this real…?
i need to inform the others….

left crypt
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not quite

narrow bramble
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Doens't team cherry have a verified mark or no?

main urchin
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Hornet was the cherries that fell out on the trip from Hallownest (Australia) to Pharloom (Poland)

lucid forum
# exotic dome

This is real I was there when they were writing the post

main urchin
tight meadow
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How TF did Herrah and the Pale King have hornet

narrow bramble
ocean quarry
narrow bramble
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Bet on early april fools

main urchin
left crypt
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Crazy how herrah probably looked like a normal weaver before hornet

light swan
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sea of sorrow release date tomorrow

ocean quarry
tight meadow
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if the weavers wouldn't let them even make money off of a transport thingy

tight meadow
rough anvil
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Hornet is the reason herrah is ugly now

tight meadow
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Brother they are bugs

teal ridge
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there are baby bugs

tight meadow
teal ridge
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eggs are not bugs

main urchin
teal ridge
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they are eggs

rough anvil
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Eggs are liquid bugs

teal ridge
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liquid bugs are slugs

rough anvil
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Do yall think team cherry likes bells

teal ridge
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i like bells

main urchin
steep jolt
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shartshit

teal ridge
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bugs in pharloom likes bells a lot. there are whole bellways that are filled with bells accross pharloom

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its unneccesary ammounts of bells

steep jolt
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the citadel is corrupt cuz why couldnt they just spend like 200 rosaries from bell bottom to grand gate bell way

eager creek
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My question is where are they getting all the metal for this

ocean quarry
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wait, isn't a bell just a bell beast's excrement?

eager creek
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I mean, I guess they are bugs so they probably aren't using as much

teal ridge
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bell bottom? where is that

main urchin
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I don’t think so

steep jolt
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pilgrims are made of metal

main urchin
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If so then Bell Eater eats crap

teal ridge
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from dead cogworkers!

ocean quarry
steep jolt
ocean quarry
main urchin
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Which would make bell eater

teal ridge
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they breed cogworkers and use the dead cogworkers to make bells

main urchin
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THE LOATHSOME DUNG EATER

rough anvil
steep jolt
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the dung defender eats bell beasts and shits out bells??

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what if bells are just natural land features

teal ridge
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there is a steel city somewhere. maybe they buy steel from there

ocean quarry
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i've literally never heard of a bell made out of steel

teal ridge
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whats the difference between steel and iron

steep jolt
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a lot

ocean quarry
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carbon

teal ridge
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they are metals

orchid spruce
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carbon

steep jolt
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steel is iron forged with carbon

teal ridge
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what carbon?

steep jolt
ocean quarry
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ok but i haven't heard of an iron bell either

teal ridge
ocean quarry
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bells are usually gold, silver, copper, or brass

steep jolt
ocean quarry
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or zinc, in rare cases

steep jolt
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oh

misty drum
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Omg sea of sorrow coming on my birthday😍😍😍😍

ocean quarry
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is the sea of sorrow news real btw

teal ridge
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its an universe where there are very powerful bug beings that control other bugs minds. and you say they cant make bells out of steel or iron?

ocean quarry
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it's not an elaborate april fools joke?

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cuz it's not april fools yet

misty drum
steep jolt
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you know how the bell caverns are all twisty and stuff what if those used to have like copper and zinc and they mined those out to make stuff for cogwork core and the leftover they dumped back in and thats how the bellways were made

orchid spruce
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it's april fools for about 30% of the world, i believe

cyan forum
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Yeah

misty drum
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I genuinely started saying shi like april fools forgetting that there are 31 days in march😭

teal ridge
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imagine a metal bug god in hollow knight universe. that controlls metals and shifts them to other metals.

teal ridge
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there are silkbenders

graceful oyster
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Sea of Sorrow tomorrow

steep jolt
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all fun and games until it actually releases tomorrow

orchid spruce
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so this ability is super overpowered stupid_yi

graceful oyster
steep jolt
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both kingdoms we see have like medeval technology where everything is made from gears, could there be a city with electricity and more advanced things exist

orchid spruce
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can kill any living being as long as it has metals in its system

steep jolt
mental snow
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So why the fuck does Flintslate cost 13.5 Shell Shards per use

orchid spruce
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a particularly gruesome death would be to trick your enemy into swallowing a piece of sliced gold then converting it all to lithium and watch as they explode to death

rough anvil
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How do you trick someone into eating a piece of gold

orchid spruce
mental snow
# silk pumice it does?

1 use is 13.5, 2 uses is 27, and 3 uses, using this math, is 40.5

When I repaired all 3 I used, it was 40. 40/3 is NOT a whole number.

silk pumice
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thats neat
probably because if youre using it, youre going to focus on nail damage over tool, forcing you to optimise when you use it even more since you wouldnt have much cost for other tools anyways

steep jolt
mental snow
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No I'm asking why THERE'S A FUCKING DECIMAL POINT THAT ISN'T EXPLAINED OR SHOWN

silk pumice
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oh i have no clue

steep jolt
orchid spruce
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nice

silk pumice
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congrats

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now phase 2

astral kettle
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do i have to rescue every flea for act 3?

silk pumice
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nope

mental snow
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Oh hey, Greymoor's theme is kind of reminiscent of City of Tears's theme

silk pumice
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just get them to ||fleatopia|| which i believe is only 22

mental snow
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Anyway I'm gonna get more used to Reaper Crest

fiery burrow
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greymoor's theme is so good

mental snow
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I never really appreciate it enough

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I'm always more or less rushing through it

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20?

Damn, better than me lol

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"I'm taking Lace. Bye!"

steep jolt
raw pawn
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This is how useful shard pendant is

strange knot
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Gl

mental snow
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I remember stressing when I was speedrunning 100% in under 30 hours

I'd wasted a lot of time in the first half (I had 6 hours left my the time I beat Lost Lace (Seth gave me more trouble than her))

strange knot
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Sub 30 100% sounds easy af ngl

still osprey
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It is

raw pawn
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How much did you stress trying to get steel heart then

still osprey
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My second playthrough was 17h

strange knot
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I could prob do it first try if I didn’t get bored from grinding rosaries

still osprey
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I got 100% and had 13h to spare

raw pawn
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Beating gms in 5 hours only IS hard tho

strange knot
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And just dropped it lmao

strange knot
mental snow
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If I was actually 100% serious about 100% speedrunning, under 20 hours would have been cake

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They're all required to even fight Lace 2

tired flume
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Greetings guys how are you doing?

raw pawn
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Howdy hru

strange knot
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I died like 20 times did 40 additional stuff in act 1 and still got sub 3 hours any% it’s easy af

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Basic ending

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Yeah, I did practically the same but got fractured mask, a lot of tools, a lot of unnecessary rosaries, died a lot, got hunter evolved

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And only thing worth from this list is Hunter evo lol

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Lwk got perfect high halls gauntlet in my latest te run

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Kept evo for like more than 1st half of the gauntlet

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Act 3 exclusive

mental snow
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Verdict: After not-so-extensive use of Reaper's Crest, I still don't like it

strange knot
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Oh you gotta rescue a green gay npc in sinners road than

wary storm
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act 4

teal ridge
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did you freed green prince in act 2?

strange knot
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Talk to him in cog dancers arena

mental snow
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I just don't like Reaper's Crest moveset, and I don't really care that much for Circlet strats

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Also I'm in Act 1 Steel Soul rn so

raw pawn
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How hard would it be to beat gms in 5 hours only (while cursed)

teal ridge
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will you be cursed from start?

strange knot
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wtf the wr is 58 what

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CYV is the fucking goat

glossy nebula
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Why is there a subreddit called fuck beaatfly

raw pawn
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Lmao

hollow atlas
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Find him by cogwork dancers ye?

strange knot
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COG DAMCERS ARENA

raw pawn
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Okay well you have to be cursed while fighting gms only

teal ridge
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why is green prince in sinners road instead of the slab

raw pawn
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Because

teal ridge
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if he got caged

slender juniper
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He said fuck this homophobic world im in my bad bitch era

raw pawn
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The roachcatchers thought he was a roach

teal ridge
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:O

raw pawn
slender juniper
main glacier
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i got craw summons instantly after abyss climb damn

teal ridge
raw pawn
strange knot
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Makes me question if citadel caged him for some not straight reason

raw pawn
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Do we kill crawfather in the fight or not?

strange knot
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P sure we do

main glacier
teal ridge
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of course not! you, him and his court will have a conversation about the abbys sittuation

main glacier
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damn i thought itd be higher 😭

teal ridge
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most of those are like silk skills, tools and whatevers

raw pawn
strange knot
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Completed TE in 23%

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Pretty easy ngl

main glacier
strange knot
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I should do low% te that sounds fun af

teal ridge
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i completed the game in 4.30 hours. and im scared of the 30 hour 100% thing

main glacier
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im mostly scared of hunters march void arena

strange knot
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Imagine doing that arena fr

teal ridge
steep jolt
strange knot
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What’s the % for low te

steep jolt
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i mean wr is 5% im pretty sure

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but no mask upgrades no spool frags 1 needle upgrade in act 3

teal ridge
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also no abilities

steep jolt
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bro

hollow atlas
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Is he left of the arena?

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That's where he normally is i think

strange knot
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13 percents for now

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te - true ending btw

hollow atlas
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Noice

main glacier
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if anyones wondering why i have 2 tool pouches its because i forgot you get one from nuu so i did the minigame instead. you need the tool pouch to have enough shell shards for the bonebottom donation 😭

steep jolt
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im calling it tomorrow team cherry will make max % 101 to make people think they added sea of sorrow but they just made floating cloak ability count as a completion

strange knot
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5% is for any

steep jolt
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oh

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well probably like 20%

main glacier
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where do i even start with this, do i just do hunters march void arena and get it out the way

strange knot
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13% jst found it in speedrun discord

steep jolt
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in act 3 you learn silk soar elegy the 3 hearts count as % im pretty sure

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damn

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oh also the trap thing

exotic cedar
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I don't think hearts count as %

still osprey
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The 3 hearts aren't % but the Everbloom is

strange knot
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Yeah prob no

steep jolt
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oh

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you technically need no silk skills to get to act 3

strange knot
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The route goes to act 2 through wisp thicket and gets act 1 faydown so I guess that saves some %

still osprey
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Silk Spear:

steep jolt
exotic cedar
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I don't think so

still osprey
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It's not

steep jolt
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i just hit the silk until bell beast freed itself

strange knot
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It’s not

main glacier
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yep gg

exotic cedar
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You need bell beast to act 3

still osprey
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You need it to free Bell Beast so you can ring the bell for Last Judge

steep jolt
exotic cedar
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Ring the bell + hit that sub button

steep jolt
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you need beast crest sharpdart plasmium phial flea brew and silkstorm

strange knot
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Yeah that’s wrong prob

main glacier
teal ridge
strange knot
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Silk Spear
Bellbeast Silk Heart
Cling Grip
Needolin
Nail Upgrade (for Bellhart house key)
Clawline
Tool Damage Upgrade (from Crawbug Clearing)
Throwing Ring (from Trail’s End)
Lace 2 Silk Heart
Spool Segment (from Sherma quest and Flea Caravan in Blasted Steps)
Quest Point 17
Silk Soar
Everbloom

These are all % for te

exotic cedar
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What's quest point 17

strange knot
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Wait tf you don’t get dash???

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Idk

main glacier
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do i let myself use silkspear for hunters march void arena or should i do it needle only like the rest of the run

steep jolt
main glacier
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because otherwise i might go insane

exotic cedar
strange knot
still osprey
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The least amount of required bosses for Act 3 are

  • Moss Mother
  • Bell Beast
  • Widow
  • Great Conchflies
  • Last Judge
  • Cogwork Dancers
  • Trobbio
  • Forebrothers Signis and Gron
  • Groal the Great
  • Lace 2
  • Grand Mother Silk
  • Skarrsinger Karmelita
  • Clover Dancers
  • Raging Conchfly or Shrine Guardian Seth
  • Crust King Khann or Nyleth
  • Lost Lace
steep jolt
strange knot
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Groal the greatfeelspkman

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Yeah sure

still osprey
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Current patch

strange knot
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Oh ok

steep jolt
still osprey
strange knot
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Man they really patched every skip

strange knot
still osprey
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Forebrothers are such a silly boss to be required

strange knot
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True i hate them for being required

teal ridge
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i like them

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they are uniuqe

steep jolt
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skip trobbio its not a required %

strange knot
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Dying to Forebrothers is my fav thing to do frfr

exotic cedar
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Trobbio is needed

split ore
tropic sand
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wsg

strange knot
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Yeah and I think the skip is patched

split ore
strange knot
steep jolt
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theres a really unreliable silk spear glitch that lets you skip him but most of the time its nmg

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so you cant do it

still osprey
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You need Conchflies to enter Karak to get the map from Shakra for Act 3 anyway

teal ridge
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they are two different bosses that do different things at once. unlike two conchflies, mantis lords and cogwork/clower dancers. since each one of those bosses are just duplicated version

raw pawn
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Imagine team cherry trolls everyone today and releases a fake sos patch?

still osprey
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Why do they call them Toobrothers when there's only four of them

teal ridge
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sos? are they in danger???

exotic cedar
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I HOPE sos NEVER releases

teal ridge
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im gonna save team cherry

raw pawn
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Club berry

still osprey
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I am Team Cherry

raw pawn
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Release sea of sorrow

still osprey
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Tomorrow...

main glacier
raw pawn
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Right

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My bsd

teal ridge
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i dont like swimming. dont release sor of searow

steep jolt
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someone waffled a waffle fry

onyx python
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rude guy, won't even sing with me

rocky jolt
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holy shit

orchid spruce
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contact damage is so ass

main glacier
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hunters march void arena with needle 1, 5 masks, no tools or spells might be the hardest thing ever actually besides coral tower

still osprey
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This is why you do karmelita statue skip in act 2 and open the shortcut in far fields for act 3

main glacier
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but that requires TOOLS

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which im not allowed to use 😭

still osprey
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Oh yea

main glacier
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chat i actually think the run ends here

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like i dont think this is happening

still osprey
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Shoutout to the random ass muckroach

main glacier
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question is what do i do

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the issue with hm void arena is that the game kinda expects that you kill the enemies fast enough to not be an issue

rocky jolt
glossy nebula
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Had so much fun doing last sinner, but what does her binding actually do

main glacier
glossy nebula
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Like when she stands and binds

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Does she heal?

orchid spruce
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pure vessel is easily the best hk boss

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like it's not even close

glossy nebula
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Or nkg

main glacier
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i really wanna fight pure vessel with hornet's hunter crest

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imagine doing the pogo dash hit from behind combo on him

teal ridge
still osprey
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First Sinner binding is so cool

glossy nebula
rocky jolt
glossy nebula
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It was the most fun part

main urchin
glossy nebula
glossy nebula
# rocky jolt

Unlike this dude, easy boss and has the worst runback in history

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I died alot before I reached him

rocky jolt
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if its easy why complain about the runback

glossy nebula
teal ridge
# rocky jolt

there was a theory that soul caused bugs to became wide like those soul creatures in hollow knight (soul warrior, soul master type). and since groal absorbed a snail shaman, they say he changed to become similar to those soul users.

rocky jolt
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did u take the closer bench to him

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god i hate soul users

teal ridge
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what if that skull on his head is actually the mask he used to wear

exotic dome
glossy nebula
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Near the end. I battled him only 3 times

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Did the gauntlet like 7 times because I didnt know how op nail arts in this game are

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They made the gauntlet enemy die in 1 shot

rocky jolt
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pimpillo also does that

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thats why you guys should use it

teal ridge
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the bomb?

glossy nebula
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What is pimpillo, the dancer weapon

rocky jolt
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the bomb

teal ridge
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kaboom

rocky jolt
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its more like a hand grenade actually

glossy nebula
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Ok, I dont use tools honestly

teal ridge
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i wish we could take last judges weapon. and use it to blow ourselves cost of 2 masks

glossy nebula
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I like to spam the spells

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When I cant hit

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Or charge pin art

still osprey
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I love the tool system so much

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Shoutout to tools

main urchin
tight viper
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Tools are cools

rocky jolt
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as a tool expert

still osprey
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Except Needle Phial, Pollip Pouch, and Spider Strings. Those don't deserve a shoutout

glossy nebula
main urchin
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(Besides Architect and Witch

main urchin
teal ridge
glossy nebula
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I should have tried them before. My first time trying them was vs lance which made it look bad

tight viper
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Fun fact: spiders strings is disabled at places that change the default needolin

main urchin
tight viper
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So it doesn’t work when standing next to Shakra’s master, for instance

rotund gate
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dead chat

teal ridge
tight viper
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But if you just go up on the ledge away from the body, it works again

tight viper
main urchin
still osprey
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Has anyone ever actually ran spider strings

teal ridge
main urchin
teal ridge
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just like that stupid crow

main urchin
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DI-AH-RHE-A

teal ridge
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do you think last judge and crawfather get along with eachother?

steep jolt
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homiese like ts is some asian language 😭

teal ridge
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asia

still osprey
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That's funny

glossy nebula
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For such a long name

teal ridge
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thats me

glossy nebula
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I lost 2435 rosaries because of you

teal ridge
rotund gate
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why do some pilgrims not have choir/underworks variants

glossy nebula
still osprey
glossy nebula
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Or strong and couldnt get mind controled

rotund gate
glossy nebula
glossy nebula
rotund gate
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actually that and why do some choir/underworks bugs not have pilgrim variants

still osprey
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because they're too good to not reach the citadel

glossy nebula
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If you go to the cradel you can find evidence of that

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I mean for the big underwork bugs

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I think the are to the top left of the citadel's pilgrims are off nobelty

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That is why we dont see them in the climb

teal ridge
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why do bugs agree to be an underworker. cant they leave

still osprey
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I just called Geo "Rosaries"

glossy nebula
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Only exist is bilewater

fading osprey
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does anybody have an image of forward facing karmelita

glossy nebula
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Which they would die in their

teal ridge
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what about the elevator

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goes to the blasted steps

glossy nebula
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Oh

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Idk about that

mental snow
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Just had 2 consecutive close-calls in Steel Soul Sinner's Road.

teal ridge
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i belive i can pass through blasted steps to the shellwood. id rather live there than underworks

glossy nebula
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From underworks.

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I dont remember the map that much

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But there is white key area

teal ridge
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what about they climb to the whiteward

glossy nebula
teal ridge
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i remember a enterance to the haunted organ

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i think they can use that to leave underworks

main urchin
glossy nebula
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The problem with white ward it is full of guards so the slaves cant go up their

glossy nebula
slim burrow
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Crazy

glossy nebula
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Hardest desicion

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It deserves to be in my name so people see me as a monster

main urchin
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The connection points of Whiteward are A) a giant pit of dead haunted bodies and B) an unclimbable pit with walls made of razor-sharp fans

teal ridge
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hey. what about they walk out the way we do? going left from the bench and enter citadel

glossy nebula
subtle flower
glossy nebula
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That we broke

main urchin
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We don’t “walk” into Underworks.

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We FALL DOWN AN ELEVATOR into underworks

teal ridge
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im not talking about the elevator that fell. im talking about entering choral chambers

main urchin
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We can’t even climb our way back out without silk soar

glossy nebula
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Underworks is a closed area with a tech freak who would probably dismorph your body just to experiment on it if tou towards him

teal ridge
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why wont they enter choral chambers

glossy nebula
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Wait I forgot about that

exotic dome
glossy nebula
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Actually pretty good point

teal ridge
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also, there is a way to enter the fire bugs from underworks. they can use that to go to greymoor

glossy nebula
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They can escape in there

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Wait but last judge is guarding the door of the citadle

orchid spruce
teal ridge
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:|

glossy nebula
teal ridge
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i think greymoor is better than underworks

glossy nebula
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Personal prefrences

hybrid vine
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I JUST BEAT GRANDMOTHER SILK IN 5 MINUTES AND UNLOCKED ACT 3

teal ridge
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at least its an open place. unlike underworks's dusty corners

glossy nebula
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But I hate to enter a highly religious area while running away from slavery from so called religion

hybrid vine
steep jolt
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nah why tf my group chat need a non homophobic edition

glossy nebula
teal ridge
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cant they start a revulotion

glossy nebula
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Like beginning od the game

teal ridge
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karl bugx

glossy nebula
hybrid vine
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dam it my switch died

main urchin
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Fans in tight corridors

teal ridge
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of right they cant cling grip

main urchin
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Well the flying ones can probably get through but it’s a tight fit

teal ridge
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wait. they can cling grip. there is a dead body is the most rigjht

tight meadow
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@glossy nebula Marissa gave me the dreamgate

main urchin
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No that was Seer

tight meadow
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as in my last essence

timid valve
still osprey
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hk and ss bosses ranked by how good the reward(s) for beating them is

minor sparrow
still osprey
minor sparrow
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And nkg

still osprey
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I just went by what the wiki said the reward is

rocky jolt
still osprey
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I lowkey forgot Zote is tied to Vengefly King and then when I remembered I forgot to move him up 😭

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just imagine he's like A tier

vivid horizon
leaden drum
still osprey
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Bellshrine

vivid horizon
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Cba to get him back

still osprey
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needed for last judge, needed for true ending

rocky jolt
timid valve
still osprey
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I lowkey forgot you can skip her 🔥

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maybe she belongs in No Reward tier

timid valve
vivid horizon
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It's too far away

timid valve
rocky jolt
#

i had 112% completion by the time i did it lol

#

fuck the weavers and their stupid silkshot

#

silkshot agaisnt gms WHOOP HIS AHH DAREDEVIL

vivid horizon
still osprey
#

Can I just talk about Mantis Lords rewards real quick like holy shit

Deepnest Lower Entrance
Mark of Pride
Hallownest Seal
620 Geo
Bench

still osprey
rocky jolt
still osprey
#

you can use it to shoot at her when she's hiding behind falling rocks

timid valve
rocky jolt
#

meet potential tool

timid valve
#

And its name is
||Snare Setter||

still osprey
#

silksong tool tier list real

willow turtle
#

What the hell

#

I just killed nyleth why was thso quick

rocky jolt
#

notice how pollip pouch is bad

normal bramble
#

🔥

vivid horizon
minor sparrow
vivid horizon
minor sparrow
#

My brother in christ, the inventory exists

willow turtle
#

“Pollen heart”

I would get hayfever just by being near it

still osprey
#

I think this was made before the game came out which is why it uses images from trailers and screenshots, including tools that don't exist

#

Which is really funny to me like how were you meant to rank these 😭

still osprey
#

shoutout to the weaver tool what a goated tool I loved using it against Sharpe

minor sparrow
unkempt steeple
#

the cidadel failed becuse they didn't build enough trams

#

we need more trams

still osprey
#

I wonder if there is a silksong boss tier list that was made before the game came out

normal bramble
#

Considering moving injector band down

still osprey
#

don't you diss my goat silkspeed anklets

normal bramble
#

I love silkspeed but it doesn’t do anything really

#

Can’t even use it to style on swiftmaster

rich haven
#

In sea of sorrow, I hope there's a powderman who builds cannons for the boats, and you can give the rosary cannon to him
He goes "what is this garbage"
And upgrades it to be actually good

still osprey
#

but it makes me go fast and I like that cuz it makes replaying the game easier

normal bramble
#

20 rosaries to fire an entire rocket

still osprey
#

also why is pollip pouch so high

rich haven
normal bramble
#

It’s riding off cogflies

rich haven
#

That's almost always good

still osprey
rose trail
#

sybau pollip pouch is goat ed

rich haven
#

Architect hater

still osprey
#

it's not at all lmao

normal bramble
#

If you use cogflies it applies the poison rather spaced out

still osprey
#

??? pollip pouch sucks with architect use quick sling instead 😭

normal bramble
#

Which if your going to use it I guess is nice

#

It’s still bad

main urchin
rich haven
#

Idk I haven't played in a while I can't really speak for gameplay

normal bramble
#

But

still osprey
#

you do know that if poison gets reapplied before the previous instance ends, the previous instance gets completely cancelled, right?

normal bramble
#

Barely escapes C

#

Mhm

rose trail
#

i think it should go up to a

normal bramble
#

I’m thinking if you fully optimally use the poison

rose trail
#

gruz mother should be at a

still osprey
#

and it deals 2 ticks of 3 damage each, 6 damage at most

#

it is garbage

rose trail
#

sybau u pmo

normal bramble
#

Like ONLY ever use to its max dmg

rich haven
#

All I remember is dying to ||lost lace|| one too many times and thinking "ok buddy that's enough of that", switching to architect, and demolishing her

normal bramble
#

Ok that’s architect being broken

still osprey
#

architect is actually maybe the worst crest for pollip pouch too

normal bramble
#

Pollip pouch didn’t really do anything

rich haven
#

So I'm biased towards any tooling, but I never knew how the damage numbers worked

still osprey
#

like you want to be spamming tools so why are you using the tool that nerfs itself if you're spamming tools

rich haven
#

Give that to the powderman too and make it blow enemies up

still osprey
#

please if you're using pollip on architect, switch to quick sling

normal bramble
#

Pollip pouches for tool spamming doesn’t really add much damage at all

#

The more I talk about it the more I’m tempted to move it below warding bell

still osprey
#

pollip pouch is a contender for the worst blue tool in the game, next to wispfire lantern

normal bramble
#

I consider pin badge worse

#

Maybe because I just really don’t use charge attacks

still osprey
#

the problem with pin badge is you get it way too late

#

it's good in enemy arenas like Coral Tower

normal bramble
#

I feel like it’s a waste of a blue slot regardless

still osprey
#

but that's like, the only threatening enemy arena by the time you get it

#

you I'd rather be using other tools too

normal bramble
#

The fact you get it in act 3 means you have volt filament

still osprey
#

and probably circlet too

normal bramble
#

Ya

rich haven
#

So many discussions about tool power hinge on when you get them, I'm excited to see how dlcs shake things up

normal bramble
#

There’s no scenario for pin badge where there isn’t just better options

rich haven
#

Because dlcs rend the playthrough timeline apart

#

Who knows what's good when anymore

normal bramble
#

Memory crystal + beast crest + druids eyes

#

Is a very fun playstyle for bosses I’ve learned

still osprey
#

I think team cherry did a much better job with placing where you get powerful items except for maybe circlet

rich haven
normal bramble
#

You can literally just be stupid and kill stuff

still osprey
#

circlet could be an act 3 exclusive tool and it would still be the best in the game I think

rich haven
still osprey
#

but also that's just circlet being broken

normal bramble
#

There’s just no scenario where circlet is bad

still osprey
#

welllllll

normal bramble
#

There’s no reason ever to Not use circlet

#

except platforming

still osprey
#

in combat, yes, but it can make platforming a bit tedious

normal bramble
#

Bilewater with circlet is REALLY annoying

rich haven
#

Circlet is only good if you go into the time dilation chamber and actually learn how to use it

Which most players never bother doing

still osprey
#

it's funny cuz it's like maybe the best tool for groal

#

but actually getting to groal with it is miserable

normal bramble
#

And that basically 3x’s your dmg

still osprey
#

"circlet is hard to use" it's literally not just try it I promise you

rich haven
#

But people don't play like that

astral kettle
#

how do i get to act 3?

normal bramble
#

Ok but that doesn’t make the item any less broken

rich haven
#

It takes such an overhaul of thinking

#

Definitely not, but it's interesting from a balance perspective

normal bramble
rich haven
normal bramble
#

It is REALLY not that hard to get worthwhile value out of circlet

#

You activate faydown half the time by complete accident once you have it

#

Or just to hit enemies

#

Or to dodge

#

Not to mention it can parry for you

still osprey
rich haven
#

Idk it doesn't really matter anymore, once I'm in the sea of sorrow trenches I am using exclusively nautical items

normal bramble
#

Trobbio is also a really good fight for sawtooth

#

Both tormented and regular

#

You can actually shred him if he ever tries to do fireworks in the air

#

Or just stand for any time at all

remote osprey
#

beast crest

rich haven
#

There's something off about tier listing a single player game like Silksong
Because once you know the bosses it does not matter what is good or bad, you can almost always beat them nonetheless

still osprey
#

I can still rank them based on how much I enjoy fighting them

normal bramble
#

True!

rich haven
#

That's fair

#

Enjoyment rankings are the ones I hold in highest esteem

#

Forge daughter silkshot: s tier

normal bramble
rich haven
#

Mega man type beat

normal bramble
still osprey
weary sonnet
#

Are we sure we actually want pantheons in this game

remote osprey
#

personally i hated fighting karmelita for the first time

rich haven
# normal bramble

Cannot believe they did my men lugoli and raging conchfly like this

No way gurr is better

remote osprey
#

and i genuinely enjoyed fighting groal more

still osprey
#

gurr is good after the buffs

rich haven
#

Ideally with enemy gauntlets as well so aoe is more viable

#

And some fancy tool resource management system

weary sonnet
#

Being able to refight thr bosses would be good.

still osprey
#

I beat Pantheon of Pharloom first try earlier today that was fun

weary sonnet
#

But I'm unsure on actual pantheons. I think they'd actively hurt the game.

still osprey
#

it's unironically so much better than P5

normal bramble
uncut elk
normal bramble
normal bramble
#

They wouldn’t be forced upon you or smth you could be completely fine not doing them

rich haven
#

They might not even put an ending behind them

normal bramble
#

But it’s a fun challenge

still osprey
# still osprey

this is my list after 10 100% all bosses playthroughs and 300h on the game 🔥

rich haven
remote osprey
weary sonnet
remote osprey
#

zango is just a snoozefest

rich haven
#

Zango is not a boss

rich haven
#

Not that he doesn't deserve to be hated on the tier list

still osprey
#

Zango is funny as fuck tho

vivid horizon
weary sonnet
normal bramble
#

I’m fairly confident in beating most of the bosses in the game with 1 life with the only outlier being Karmelita

minor plank
still osprey
#

Zango has a title card and a roar so he is a boss

doesn't make him a good one

rich haven
#

If zango is in hall of gods I will eat my shoes and my feet inside them

valid sable
minor plank
#

I’m excited for a pantheon dlc

still osprey
#

I mean, I beat every boss in the game with 1 life earlier today so, yea I'd say I'm confident enough too

normal bramble
#

Id also love being able to refight Karmelita

#

At any point

main urchin
rich haven
main urchin
#

But still made it to Godhome

rich haven
#

Craggler is also not going there

still osprey
main urchin
subtle skiff
normal bramble
valid sable
#

If a game has something you don't want to do, like a boss rush, then don't do it. True completion doesn't matter at the end of the day

timid valve
#

Guys, what is the largest amount of hearts that you can carry at the same time?
. Pollip heart (x6)
. Silk Heart (x3)
. The Old Hearts (x4)
. Cogwork Heart

Total: 14 hearts

-# did I miss something?

minor plank
weary sonnet
normal bramble
#

She’s dueling you she isn’t actually trying to kill you hence not a boss

main urchin
#

They have enough moves and don’t respawn

still osprey
normal bramble
#

:p

weary sonnet
still osprey
#

p5 is just an ending not completion %

subtle skiff
#

112 is locked behind 1-4 yeah

normal bramble
still osprey
#

p1-4 are %, but not 5

rich haven
# main urchin Choir Clappers could make it

I think they'll be with enemy gauntlets

I hope there are enemy rushes in the pantheons, it would mean the late game doesn't exclusively revolve around boss fights which would be great 🔥👍🔥

minor plank
#

112 is pantheon 1-4

rich haven
#

I got it 2 days or so before skong

#

My proudest achievement

subtle skiff
#

P5 has etv, which is nice for the lore people i guess if they dont want to miss the sk equivalent of that

rich haven
main urchin
turbid turtle
#

Shut the fuck up

vivid horizon
weary sonnet
#

Well even then, p4 would probably consist of purely act 3 bosses like Nyleth, Karmelita and Seth, very powerful bosses, now with more health + potential DLC bosses + what new boss is the final one.

Sounds torturous.

minor plank
#

Sounds fun lowkey

still osprey
#

act 3 is like, back to back banger bosses

normal bramble
#

True

main urchin
weary sonnet
#

Yeah ik.

subtle skiff
#

Sounds fine if they balance them correctly, p4 in hk was fine difficulty wise for being a 112 requirement

minor plank
#

Act 3 fights have the best bosses

normal bramble
#

And plasmified Zango.

turbid turtle
#

Hollow Knight is ass

minor plank
#

Not even close

main urchin
#

The peak for me is Abyss Escape

weary sonnet
#

Separately. Not all stringed together with one life.

minor plank
turbid turtle
#

Stfu bitch

normal bramble
#

Imo act 2 is the most consistent act for bosses

minor plank
weary sonnet
still osprey
#

I can see it

normal bramble
#

Almost every boss in act 2 is just a fairly good boss

main urchin
valid sable
#

Hollow Knight is one of the very few games I think boss rush is actually good in, because bosses can be learned to be beaten very efficiently and quickly. That makes it so much more bearable than something like Blasphemous where bosses are huge health sponges

main urchin
still osprey
brittle tartan
still osprey
#

Father of the Flame is, ass, just, pure ass

main urchin
#

it also has the two most despised bosses in the game

turbid turtle
#

Who TF is that, ya fucking dog?

brittle tartan
#

why are you rude

normal bramble
#

The only bad bosses in act 2 are like brood mother, raging conch, beastfly 2 and father of the flame

#

And even those are just meh

main urchin
still osprey
#

raging conchfly is fine

subtle skiff
normal bramble
#

It’s meh

minor plank
normal bramble
subtle skiff
weary sonnet
main urchin
#

That boss is actually pretty cool

normal bramble
#

Zango is act 3

#

Palestag is act 3

still osprey
#

Act 3 has Zango, Lost Garmond and Palestag

turbid turtle
#

How am I supposed to fucking know I don't live in your fucking neighborhood dumb ass

normal bramble
#

Gurr is exceedingly mediocre

#

Voltvyrm exists

minor plank
main urchin
#

Watcher at the Edge is a reskinned enemy

teal ridge
#

you can go to voltvyrm in act 2

still osprey
#

voltvyrm is an act 2 boss

main urchin
teal ridge
turbid turtle
still osprey
minor plank
normal bramble
#

Voltvyrm is act 2???

#

Never knew

still osprey
#

you can get in with harpoon and wings

minor plank
#

Yep!

timid valve
#

and FotF is broken

normal bramble
#

I’ve always silk soared there

teal ridge
#

i like seeing watcher fall into the sandworms

main urchin
minor plank
teal ridge
#

whats fotf?

subtle skiff
main urchin
normal bramble
#

Anyways tbh I think i gotta reorder my tierlist because phantom is 100% my favorite boss in the game now

timid valve
minor plank
teal ridge
still osprey
#

Watcher at the Edge is lowkey a very underrated fight I think they're a really fun boss even if their moveset is very similar to a Karaka

timid valve
teal ridge
#

father of the flame represents the flame bugs. with him having 6 limbs and the same head clothe as the flame bugs

rich haven
#

With no teleporting

#

Cease fanning the flames

main urchin
#

Brain tumor moment

rich haven
#

It is foolish

subtle skiff
#

Brother you are fighting ghosts they got muted like 5 minutes ago omegamarmu

teal ridge
timid valve
#

who's ghosts

main urchin
still osprey
#

is Father of the Flame like, alive in any sense of the word, I'm pretty sure it's just a statue with a corpse inside it

rich haven
#

Those are/were a real thing

teal ridge
#

maybe hes the father of the whisp enemies. the one that created them. the core summoned those enemies. so i think it can be father of the flame's soul in the core of the statue that kept the cult alive

still osprey
#

"Father of the Flame is a giant totem built and worshipped by the Burning Bugs. Its heart contains the remains of an aged bug"

teal ridge
#

oh

main urchin
#

FOTF is gonna be a pantheon run killer I’ll say that much

rich haven
teal ridge
#

well, my guess was close to the original

#

imagine father of the flames in radiant difficulity

rich haven
willow turtle
main urchin
rich haven
#

Not nearly as bad as markoth

timid valve
willow turtle
main urchin
#

If I were to say bosses that are gonna be hell on radiant…

vivid horizon
main urchin
#

Zango

rich haven
still osprey
main urchin
#

Zango will be like an easier Oblobbles probably

teal ridge
#

imagine he gets changed like nosk.

vivid horizon
main urchin
rich haven
graceful oyster
teal ridge
#

imagine father of the flame himself fights with you

rich haven
teal ridge
#

a bug thats made of FIRE

exotic cedar
#

I was thinking about replaying nine sols currently and i saw the emoji lol

main urchin
#

Pantheon of Pharloom’s secret weapon is that there’s no Strength

teal ridge
#

you gotta use your mind

#

be smart

main urchin
#

How will bindings work

orchid locust
main urchin
#

I mean for the lifeblood cocoon thing

#

Since Hornet can’t hold more than 8 Plasmium masks before she pulls a Michael Jackson

normal bramble
#

Alr updated this

tight meadow
frosty light
tight meadow
#

Let's be real that would be a good challenge for some bosses

main urchin
tight meadow
#

Probably removing hornets movement

tight meadow
still osprey
#

One of the bindings should just make the screen entirely black so you can't see anything

tight meadow
#

In hk they were brutal tho

still osprey
#

One of the bindings should just kill you instantly if selected

frosty light
#

steadily rising steadily infested water for every arena

still osprey
frosty light
#

(which means every boss just drowns after a few seconds hornet420)

snow raft
#

How much units did SS sell as of today?

main urchin
#

Over 5 million

#

Probably approaching 10 million by now

frosty light
# still osprey Like, in real life

the Team Cherry Trials
part of an experiment to induce ghostly possession in subjects unwilling to lose their gamer cred, they sought to find ou

graceful oyster
main urchin
#

Speed Binding: Removes Swift Step from your moveset making you rely more on Clawline

frosty light
orchid locust
graceful oyster
#

I see it now

orchid locust
graceful oyster
#

Phanom

main urchin
#

Phanom tax

graceful oyster
#

Get out

main urchin
#

I don’t even know what that word means

graceful oyster
#

Leave the server

main urchin
frosty light
orchid locust
#

fuck leaving the server i need this guy publicly executed

graceful oyster
#

Time for ANOTHER hummus pita!!!

tight meadow
#

The bindings if there 4 in my opinion:
1 - Only the og silk spool
2 - No tools (maybe only hunters crest too?)
3 - Passive silk loss (permanent worms)
4 - Weaker needle which includes the needle attacks that use silk (whatever they're called)

frosty light
#

we're back to 3 pimpillos baby feelspkman

vivid horizon
#

FIRE*

#

Unlike father of the flame

frosty light
#

(it used to be 3-6 but got buffed to 4-8 if not known)

frosty light
# vivid horizon Unlike father of the flame

imagine being burned alive as a sacrifice then dying AGAIN by some bug youve never heard of from a completely different kingdom and people still send strays your way from a different plane of existence

vivid horizon
#

Imo

main urchin
#

Groal was consciously the worst fight

#

He chose to be da devil from da Bible

lusty grove
#

Am I the only one who actually likes the bosses that use the Sister Splinter theme?

orchid locust
#

groal is far from the worst boss

orchid locust
#

palestag exists

graceful oyster
#

Worst boss is Lost Lace obviously

lusty grove
orchid locust
#

Shrue

lusty grove
#

I like all of them thematically

tight viper
vivid horizon
graceful oyster
#

Losers will say I'm ragebaiting

lusty grove
#

The boss fights might not be the best, but I like the characters

main urchin
tight viper
frosty light
#

no mind to be raigebaited

main urchin
tight viper
lusty grove
#

And cool lore

frosty light
main urchin
#

I mean it’s not that bad but it felt pretty underwhelming overall

tight viper
#

Only thing I would change is making it use the spear scalpels more

vivid horizon
#

I liked the time when the spears can't hit me when I'm standing still

main urchin
#

The psalm cylinder is 100 times scarier than the boss

#

Which is not how it’s supposed to go because nosk was freaking horrifying

tight viper
lusty grove
#

Psalm Cylinders might be one of the coolest relics

vivid horizon
main urchin
lusty grove
vivid horizon
frosty light
lusty grove
tight viper
# vivid horizon Imagine horizontal

Have 'em jump out of the ground all at once and shoot across the arena, you've gotta jump/pogo over them or duck under and let them pass if they're high enough

tight viper
#

It would be like that one attack where it emerges in the center, roars, and 2 spears go up and down into the center, but horizontal

main urchin
#

By the way sandy freaking dies at the end because she’s underwater and without a helmet

tight viper
#

so you still get a chance to attack at the start, and so you can prepare to dodge it

lusty grove
#

The Unravelled should spend less time under the silk

#

That's a problem with most Sister Splinter bosses, they spend way too long invulnerable

frosty light
#

lost kin them all up,tc... 😌

main urchin
#

The others are summoning vines and summoning enemies

shy kettle
trim estuary
vivid horizon
#

Bro

vivid horizon
vivid horizon
frosty light
limpid estuary
#

hi

lean pendant
#

Which OST song has the best trombone?

frosty light
#

karak gor reference

frosty light
wary storm
#

or delete binding of kin and make same stuff we had in hk1, forbid using the equipment / make needle damage lower

#

this way we must get rid of naked crest binding

#

but i damn love it

#

buuuuut binding of og heal and binding of small spool are alike, you cannot heal good, so idk

round creek
#

I DIED FROM THOSE THINGS IN PUTRIFIED DUCTS AND SOMEHOW DUPLICATED AND HAD 0 GRAVITY

vague haven
#

guys

#

i did it

#

i got all three hearts

vivid horizon
vague haven
#

the hearts for act 3

earnest drift
#

cogwork heart

short crest
#

Frick Mt.Fay bruh 😭

candid kayak
vague haven
#

i know

stable pilot
#

Enter Hallownest or Enter Pharloom?

vague haven
#

should i do it

unkempt steeple
#

yummy silk

short crest
#

HK: Fight this boss to get 2x jump!
SK: Do this super hard PoP to get 2x jump!

stable pilot
#

Dirtmouth (song) or bellhart (song)

candid kayak
#

why don't we just give the shamans the cogheart, a silk heart and a pollip heart

#

they should stop being so fussy

vague haven
#

alr i doing it

short crest
#

Oml Mt.Fay SUCKS 😔

candid kayak
#

wrong

short crest
#

AHHH I NEED TO GIT GUD

candid kayak
#

you can get through it without taking any damage from the cold

short crest
#

How

#

I can't do it 😭

candid kayak
#

what part are you stuck on

short crest
#

THE FIRST PART😭

candid kayak
#

that doesn't tell me much

#

can you send a picture or something

short crest
#

The part to get to the bench (Pay to get bench)

candid kayak
#

have you gotten the bench

short crest
#

No

#

Jus wait I'll send a photo of the area

candid kayak
#

the bench is trivial to get to btw

river ferry
#

do the speedrunner skip