sk-discussion

[paper fiber]

i dont like @burnt pagoda cuz silksong is a masterpiece and all bosses are amazing

[radiant sluice]

worst runback 😭

[cerulean sable]

Hornet should have a SABOT Anti Tank tool that costs 80 shards per use

[brave geyser]

Which is a huge step up from hk
I get way more excited about fighting most sk bosses than hk bosses

[burnt pagoda]

:(

[paper fiber]

cuz it’s new

[burnt pagoda]

RIGHTT ever since i fought widow i was like “holy shit these bosses are amazing”

[paper fiber]

😂 ✌️

[solid grail]

You should try the double enemies mod

[hardy tangle]

palestag is the worst boss from both games

[solid grail]

They are even better

[rancid flare]

Pale stag is boring, annoying, AND shitty run back?

[slim thorn]

up and down either, so no pogos
wich somehow wasnt needed cuz on my winning attempt i skipped the spiked floor phase on gauntlet 3, i didnt knew it was possible, and then managed to first try the rest so i didnt have to get lucky there again

[burnt pagoda]

as someone who played hk and sk back to back for the first time i VASTLY prefer sk’s bosses for the most part

[solid grail]

And the easy bosses got a step up

[rancid flare]

Widow is so good man

[paper fiber]

8/10 boss fr

[brave geyser]

Fam just do R04 silksong atp 😭

[hardy tangle]

silksong is more consistent but hk has higher highs, i think that will def change when dlcs come out tho considering a lot of the greatest bosses in hk are dlc

[brave geyser]

No eyes enjoyer

[rancid flare]

The combat differences are very different between the two games. Silksongs is definitely more in depth. But I won’t lie the pattern reading from HKs is still so satisfying

[burnt pagoda]

mhm this is basically my opinion, i think no boss in sk tops nkg or pv to me yet

[rancid flare]

Pure vessel, NKG and sisters of battle flow so fucking perfectly

[brave geyser]

I like it when my bosses don't bug tf out and do the most heinous shit yknow
(Oro dash slashing without dashing)

[lean yoke]

Does the bull in the memorium have more health this bitch won't die 😭

[burnt pagoda]

yeah those three specifically are incredible tests of skill

[rancid flare]

Entering flow state in sisters of battle especially holy euphoria

[paper fiber]

no eyes is amazing.

[ancient mortar]

What is ro4

[brave geyser]

Radiant old needle all bindings

[crisp heron]

pretty sure most bosses in the game include bugs

[ancient mortar]

That sounds like agony, i hate doing no damage

just makes things a slog

[brave geyser]

true until you fight shit like Freaking moss mother duo

[crisp heron]

bosses that dont let you flow state can be annoying

ELDER HU

[brave geyser]

Then it's just ggs

[solid grail]

Try double bosses

[lean yoke]

Oh my god to hell with this bastard, the shell shards are not worth it

[solid grail]

It makes fights much more peak

[brave geyser]

atleast there you get something to combat with

[trim estuary]

as the world's #1 hollow knight mod hater this boss is pretty cool
-# mod is lost and chained

[brave geyser]

R04 is literally just your needle at its weakest

[rancid flare]

Literally am watching this on YouTube rn wtf are the odds

[rancid flare]

fuck the Hu bro

[slim thorn]

wich mod is this i require beating it up right now

[trim estuary]

well i found it from this so #sk-lore message

[brave geyser]

I was wonder how this would work until i realized lace doesn't have a hitbox
Good

[timid plinth]

so cool

[light swan]

is it synchronized or just at the same time

[slim thorn]

just found it on front page of thundrstore

[trim estuary]

she telefragged me several times i just got lucky with the clawline

[hardy tangle]

bro i wish they did somthing like this

[radiant sluice]

this gms has to be way stronger if she is able to withstand the void and attack normally and preserve lace

[trim estuary]

IDK

[brave geyser]

Also that double triple damage combo god DAMN

[light swan]

do you know if they shair a healthbar

[brave geyser]

But yea a duo fight at the end wouldn't work

[trim estuary]

they dont, but GMS always goes down first

i think

[brave geyser]

It would've been sick unique and awesome but it still wouldn't make sense

[ancient mortar]

But yeah all i have left is just coral tower now then ima take a break untill dlc. I feel like i could make the second phase of lost lace a little smoother on my next try tbh. What did you think of the finisher btw?

[burnt pagoda]

i really hate the lost lace arena

visually its cool but its so fucking hard for me to follow whats happening in phase 3

[trim estuary]

TRUE

[slim thorn]

i like it, but they fixed getting out of it :(

[rancid stag]

i got a dlc idea for sk

[trim estuary]

i think they patched it at some point because it feels brighter now but maybe im crazy

[burnt pagoda]

god

[brave geyser]

Astronomical levels of

[rancid flare]

Where do we think godhome enterance is gonna be located

[brave geyser]

Our head

[rancid flare]

K u right

[brave geyser]

But knowing the godseekers made it to pharloom before that could change

[brave geyser]

For a boss like lace it's lowk too big

[trim estuary]

what

[burnt pagoda]

the slab maybe

for no reason in particular i just have a gut feeling

[brave geyser]

https://youtu.be/Ag3dOpVbe-s?si=QoEz58JoDI7Ocnyu

so apparently

the surface town is actually the godseekers tuner memory location

Nearly same stones and everything too

[trim estuary]

i don't believe it

[burnt pagoda]

its gonna be so funny if sk’s godhome is on the surface town

[slim thorn]

love when this happens

[brave geyser]

Literally the first minute in this video

[solid grail]

Somewhere in act 3

[burnt pagoda]

i think lace would be pissed about this despite hornet saving her

[solid grail]

Maybe the Abyss

[slim thorn]

what i got from this video is that bretta is the lost princess of the land of storms as a descendant of the gods there

[burnt pagoda]

“???? HOW”
-lace probably

[brave geyser]

the only difference is that hollow knight's is slightly bigger

[brave geyser]

LMAO loved that part

[minor grail]

What could possibly be the reason

[burnt pagoda]

bretta in sea of sorrows…….

[slim thorn]

fanfictional dreams beign the use of her hidden deity powers is so funny

[trim estuary]

huh okay i believe it

[solid grail]

Bretta calls the knight White Knight

Lace is also the White Knight

[minor grail]

Roaring Knight

[brave geyser]

You could argue that there's no platforms or spikes in hollow knight's but i think that's just gameplay reasons

[solid grail]

Lace is a child of a higher being that got voides

Foreshadowing

If the Vessels aren't voiceless:

White Knight x Bretta

[solid grail]

Lost Girl

[brave geyser]

Yuh uh

[rancid stag]

me x zote

[ancient mortar]

zote x zote

his only true love

[rancid stag]

bretta react me

[icy crow]

Day 68 waiting for a good sale

[slim thorn]

is gms meant to be attacking since the start? if so i think the mod isnt working for me

[trim estuary]

yeah she is. it just got updated though so maybe they changed it or it broke

[slim thorn]

i will try with a previous version

i got jumpscared when getting back on the game

[minor grail]

Find me

[rancid stag]

deltarune chapter 5

[trim estuary]

Friend Inside Me

[minor grail]

I'm lost

[burnt pagoda]

lost knight……..?

silk song downloadable content………???

[lean yoke]

Omg it's the big flee <3

I could do this on one health should be easy ong

[burnt pagoda]

I LOVE HIM

savage beastfly if he was awesome

[solid grail]

Ye

Theres the safe spot

[icy crow]

I have a love-hate relationship with Huge Flea

[stable narwhal]

savage beastfly if it went awooo instead of unintelligible screeching sound

i wouldn't even be mad then

[icy crow]

"ÆÆÆÆÆ"

That's what Savage Beastfly says

[stable narwhal]

pokemon ahh screech

[minor grail]

Find me

And youll know how long she smiled

[icy crow]

What if I don't

[stable narwhal]

lost lace speech bubble

[burnt pagoda]

Bad ending

[icy crow]

What if I do the secret ending

[stable narwhal]

can we make all silksong bosses fluffy

[icy crow]

When Ductsuckers are not enough

[stable narwhal]

the what suckers

[leaden oxide]

Get out.

Worst fight in the game the rematch.

[icy crow]

Those big ass enemies from Putrified Ducts

[lean yoke]

Adorable <3

[leaden oxide]

They actually freak me out

[icy crow]

That goes "MHOOAOAOAOAO" when you get near

[leaden oxide]

The ducksuckers

They actually freak me out

[light swan]

@lean yoke hi semi

[lean yoke]

Oh my god it's you

Mr maze maker

[light swan]

https://tenor.com/view/average-witch-crest-speed-kill-gif-16326558384304353968

[burnt pagoda]

what

[lean yoke]

Is this mobile friendly

[burnt pagoda]

i wasnt talking about the rematch i was talking about the flea…….

[light swan]

in this server i dont make mazes in a square game i glaze witch crest and invent and teach combat tech to lesser beings

[light swan]

probably not

[lean yoke]

Damm

[light swan]

actually probably

[lean yoke]

Well I'm a hunter main anyways

[minor grail]

I'm so lost

[slim thorn]

what is mazes in a square game?

[light swan]

creating a random maze generator in Geometry Dash

[minor grail]

Imagine the entire skarr audience just joins the fight

[leaden oxide]

That’s not the savage beast fly

The savage beast fly is that one fucker at the end of hunters march.

[slim thorn]

i require a mod that does just this

[light swan]

:)

[burnt pagoda]

dash slash > clawline > circlet > pogo > clawline > dash > pogo > circlet > pogo > circlet

did i read the inputs right

[light swan]

yea

circlet pogo are pretty much at the same time which is important to know

[lean yoke]

What the fuck do I even do in memorium

[light swan]

dash attack gets animation cancelled by clawline

[burnt pagoda]

i know
was just making a joke about the similarities of the two fights

[light swan]

its less of a sequence because of the animation cancels

[burnt pagoda]

yea im familiar with clawline/circlet canceling

[light swan]

the dash gets cancelled by the circlet pogo too

[lean yoke]

Do I just wander aimlessly

[light swan]

i still love how witch dash attack goes from 13 frames to 6 frames with animation cancelling

[slim thorn]

what was that looked so cool and funny

[gilded nymph]

Guys yall know the zone up ||deep docks||? Does it have any fake bench bc im near one and im 1 hp

[leaden delta]

oh does sawtooth cancel endlag

[light swan]

theres 1 fake bench

[light swan]

not really

[leaden delta]

i wouldnt know all i do in thos stupid ass game is charmless hunter

[gilded nymph]

Which one

[leaden delta]

ok yeah i thought i wasnt trolling

[candid kayak]

with the ants?

[light swan]

the only one

[gilded nymph]

Yes

[candid kayak]

go left from the bench

[light swan]

everything can cancel a dash early, double jumping is one of them

[candid kayak]

if you don't want a nasty trap

[light swan]

over here i cancel with a slash for example

[gilded nymph]

Im in a room

[candid kayak]

walk into the left wall

[light swan]

same for here, i cancel the dash with another slash

[gilded nymph]

Done

I dezactivated the trap

[light swan]

more hunter posting even tho i just posted shaman

[light swan]

now go jump into some thorns

[candid kayak]

lol

I suppose respawning is a valid way to refill your health

but so is the bench

[light swan]

did yall like when i parried a curvesickle with circlet thrice

[slim thorn]

since you posting karmelita fight im gonna do the same, if discord allows me...

[tight viper]

how do you feel about gauntlets

[candid kayak]

ignore the fact that the bench heals you, jump into the thorns (repeatedly) to die, then you respawn with full health
problem solved

[light swan]

architect users at 1% of their power

[candid kayak]

enjoyable, though less so on a first playthrough of course

replaying gauntlets in repeat playthroughs is fun

[candid kayak]

I guess they pose a reasonable challenge

[tight viper]

I need to check out that infinite Forum gauntlet mod

[candid kayak]

but something being challenging is a mixed bag...

[tight viper]

I have an urge to do the Forum

[lean yoke]

Y'know I need to face my fears and actually explore bilewater

[candid kayak]

so long as you pay attention to clear traps and stuff you should be okay

[lean yoke]

Doesn't seem all to bad from what I saw

Letsa go!

[candid kayak]

also the signposted bench is not a trap
you should definitely sit on it

[light swan]

its my favorite area

[candid kayak]

definitely...

[slender juniper]

Sinners road paid bench is so annoying

[light swan]

if there was something i could replay for the first time by team cherry it would 100% be bilewater

[slender juniper]

Why the fuck do I do all that for a bench

[candid kayak]

what cost

[light swan]

we all know no one gets a break at sinners road

[slim thorn]

Karmelita NMK (No Movement Keys, jump isn't included on those btw)
i didn't do the whole walking into the arena since I was using pantheon of pharloom mod to get into the fight, sorry if someone wanted to see that

[candid kayak]

you just break a rosary string

[gilded nymph]

Guys what its ||chapel of the beast||?

[slim thorn]

guess i gotta do verdania next

[leaden delta]

does purity count as an option

[candid kayak]

you don't need to use spoiler tags in this channel

[gilded nymph]

Okk

[leaden delta]

i dont think i particularly want to experience much of anything again

[candid kayak]

chapels contain crests, however this one is guarded by a notorious boss

[light swan]

whata that

[ancient mortar]

mini dungeon with a boss and a cool reward

[gilded nymph]

I have a bench right?

[tight viper]

I wish I could replay all of Hollow Knight again for the first time so I could avoid spoiling the whole game for myself because I forgot about Crystal Peak

[candid kayak]

did you sit on the bench in that other room?

[gilded nymph]

What banch

The only one i could find itd the one that had trap and i defused the trap

[light swan]

sit on it once you defused it

[candid kayak]

yeah after you flip the lever you can sit on it safely

[gilded nymph]

Ik

[light swan]

no you dont. go die now

[candid kayak]

lmfao

[leaden delta]

https://youtu.be/cItEHcuWkTc the best simply the best thing in both hk and ss

its just the best shit ever

[candid kayak]

anyway, crests change your needle attacks and tool slots

[lean yoke]

Do people like actually use the pin art things

[candid kayak]

needle strike? situational but not useless

good for one shotting enemies as they spawn in

[ancient mortar]

quite often in the right situations

many bosses and every gauntlet benifits from using them

[candid kayak]

or like, getting a free (strong) hit on a boss in the moment between it spawning and roaring

[slim thorn]

oh they updated it? are those spike barrages more fair now?

[gilded nymph]

Any tips for the boss?

The one from chapel of the beast

[candid kayak]

...not really

well, it can crush the enemies it spawns

when it does the vertical slams

[slim thorn]

good luck and have patience and skill and be cautious

[light swan]

woah its mios final boss

except mios final boss is still cooler and better, but that looks awesome

WAIT ITS MIOS FINAL BOSS

[leaden delta]

oh yea they updated it thats just the old version tho. face swords now only start having a hitbox when all of them r out and climb was made a lil easier

[ancient mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/toad-pet-pet-frog-petting-gif-17558648

[slim thorn]

i should check it, i forgot if i was even able of beat easy mode

[candid kayak]

its attacks are:

• it charges horizontally 3 times, adjusting its vertical position to match yours between each
• it does 3 downwards slams in a row, positioning above you each time
• it roars, summoning other enemies

[light swan]

SLIGHT spoilers for mio

WHAT ITS MIOS FINAL BOSSS

thats 3 different unique attacks they share already

[candid kayak]

minor spoiling mistake

[light swan]

this is cool tho

[candid kayak]

lol

[light swan]

no i spoilered the image

if it didnt show its likely discords fault

[candid kayak]

no it's hidden dw

I phrased it that way in reference to "minor spelling mistake"

[light swan]

ah

[candid kayak]

and the fact that you said "slight spoilers", immediately followed by "it's the final boss"

lmao

[fallow dirge]

life with lock in citadel how open

[next cape]

hi

[light swan]

yea but the image doesnt show the final boss itself

at max it shows the boss arena wnhich has nothing spoilery

[next cape]

how expensive is mio

[candid kayak]

mm

one million dollars

[next cape]

ain nobody buying dat

[ancient mortar]

its like 20 usd

[next cape]

ah jus like hk

[ancient mortar]

edited i was 2 bucks off

[fallow dirge]

life with lock in citadel how open

[light swan]

same price as hk for twice the entertainment

[next cape]

DONT TALK ABOUT HOLLOW KNIGHT LIKE THAT

[heady iron]

Got to the tippy top in mio

[light swan]

im not slandering hk at all

[burnt pagoda]

hollow knight

[light swan]

ggs :D

[fathom saddle]

fr hk might be like top 10 best value games

[next cape]

Mount fay

[fathom saddle]

is mio even good

[light swan]

yes

[fathom saddle]

ive seen mixed reviews

whats it abt

[light swan]

as a lot of others have stated its much better than silksong and i fullheartedly agree

[light swan]

metroidvania

[fathom saddle]

wow thats a strong claim

[fathom saddle]

ye ik

[light swan]

its a strong game

[fathom saddle]

how long does it take to beat how long to completionist?

[light swan]

very dynamic and fun movement, which boosts both platforming/exploration and combat a lot, combat system is my personal favorite platformer combat system

[sour lake]

way better than silksong?

[light swan]

better, i wouldnt say way better

[fallow dirge]

lift with lock in citadel how open

[sour lake]

you did say much better lol

[light swan]

its a lot better but it doesnt knock silksong out of the park

[fathom saddle]

ok fine ill add it to my wishlist

[sour lake]

it does seem to be an 82% on steam — I wonder what they’re complaining about

[light swan]

weird wording shenanigans

[fathom saddle]

but im still getting ninesols and tboi before this

[light swan]

well for me it took ~25 for first ending, ~37 for true ending, ~54 for 100%, will take everyone else less since i smelt the roses

[fallow dirge]

lift with lock in citadel how open

[sour lake]

getting nine sols first is probably a good move lol

I’ve heard nothing but glowing reviews regarding that game

[light swan]

the game is very specialized, it breaks a lot of rules to create exactly the experience it wants

and its a good thing, people dont seem to look past that

[sour lake]

I like Isaac but I’ve got some personal issues with the slot machine nature of the game

[fathom saddle]

yeah even if its actually 'that good' im not gonna prioritize it since its a pretty small indie so i cant just rely on word of mouth

[sour lake]

After a certain point, holding the “R” key gets tiring

[heady iron]

I don't think the combat is its strong suit but exploration and world building are quite good

[fathom saddle]

fair

[sour lake]

Still put 200 hours into it

[light swan]

combat is my favorite part of mio

[fathom saddle]

ye fireborn said his first playthrough of ninesols was better than hk

[light swan]

its not the standard metroidvania formula and does new things which people hate

nine sols i liked better than hk but still beneath mio and silksong

games list!

[sour lake]

wow you really like xenoblade

[light swan]

heres the thing tho

[fathom saddle]

silksong if they get official godhome dlc in like 2028 will be crazy

[light swan]

100% of people in this server who i've recommended mio to, have loved the game

[ancient mortar]

My top five games: 1: Everhood. 2: Everhood. 3: Everhood. 4: Everhood. 5: Everhood.

[light swan]

statistics! boom!

[fathom saddle]

i dont rlly get the balatro hype but that might be cuz i dont play card games that often

[light swan]

idk man xenoblade 2 and 1 arent even in my top 10

[sour lake]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-funny-reaction-meme-stan-twt-horse-gif-5445268815333743861

[light swan]

balatro isnt in my top 10 either, its not some crazy hype thing its just a bit addicting

[sour lake]

fuck

what did they do to my gifs

[fathom saddle]

have yall played megabonk

[burnt pagoda]

mio is probably fun but from what ive seen the artstyle doesnt catch my eye

[fathom saddle]

imo omelet you cook is better (as a non-cards player)

[burnt pagoda]

i like how nine sols looks though

[fathom saddle]

similar dynamic kinda but i personally like it more

[light swan]

i had crazy expectations for mio before it released and somehow all those expectations were exceeded

[fathom saddle]

yeah same for me

[sour lake]

balatro is understandable

[light swan]

yall have seen what mio looks like right

[sour lake]

gameplay loop gets very repetitive but at the start it’s crack cocaine

[fathom saddle]

yeah

[sour lake]

hades at 15 though

[fathom saddle]

its just kinda unconventional

[graceful cairn]

mio my beloved

[burnt pagoda]

oh this looks nice

[light swan]

😭

[graceful cairn]

mio is fucking awesome in all ways 💙

[fathom saddle]

honestly same as megabonk. Its like THE game to play when ur bored of playing other games

[leaden delta]

oooh top 5 games r what

[sour lake]

I hear ya

[burnt pagoda]

maybe i need to look into mio more idk i probably havnt seen the game at its best

[leaden delta]

stp void stranger ngo outer wilds and like I guess hk

Yo btw cali and bug12

[sour lake]

for me it’s like hk ss ror2 etg salem

[heady iron]

I posted what i think is currently the best vibe in the game so far

[light swan]

game is a tad bit beautiful if you ask me

[sour lake]

hi future

[light swan]

eh, could be better i dont think that ss is too good

[slender zealot]

If we are true citizens we should NOT talk about this here but on #off-topic

[severe hemlock]

this is 3d right?

[light swan]

yea, but its a 2d game

[fathom saddle]

idk the 2d with 3d mixing together is a bit confusing

[severe hemlock]

I want to know how they made their shader

[heady iron]

What are you talking about

[fathom saddle]

not necessarily in a bad way but

[graceful cairn]

its odd at first but you get used to it pretty quickly

[severe hemlock]

Im pretty its 3d

[ancient mortar]

Has anyone here played signalis

[light swan]

its a 2d platformer

[heady iron]

I'm talking about the stargazing screenshot

[light swan]

yea me too

[severe hemlock]

the environment is 3d

[fathom saddle]

ye kinda like hades maybe

[slender zealot]

[light swan]

it doesnt hit the same unless youve played the game

[sour lake]

ICL this is incredible — stained glass looking place reminds me of the Sagrada Familia in Spain

[light swan]

and known the impact behind who mio is sitting on

[fathom saddle]

its just kinda weird imo cuz i dont usually play games witht his artsyle

[sour lake]

not sure if it’s the type of game id play though

[heady iron]

And you posting screenshots is different cause

[sour lake]

artstyle is very foreign to me

[light swan]

it doesnt hit the same if you didnt do the cool ass climb up to it

[arctic epoch]

i would probably enjoy the game if i can invest more than an hour into it in one seating
i suppose i should wait

[burnt pagoda]

ok i searched up gameplay
it looks better in motion imo

[light swan]

theres dynamic lighting and shaders

[burnt pagoda]

but these areas specifically are really nice looking

[ancient mortar]

My favorite artstyle in gaming is probably dishonored

[severe hemlock]

Yea the artstyle isnt for everyone but I think the game is gorgeous

[light swan]

the painted ground is really beautiful and same for the dynamic crosshatching

[severe hemlock]

Ikr its awesome

Dishonored is amazing

[graceful cairn]

the mio lore is also FASCINATING

[severe hemlock]

Handpainted masterpiece

Or atleast I think its handpainted

[light swan]

dude the story makes me so sad

[severe hemlock]

no spoilers

[cunning geode]

so there’s this monkey right

[light swan]

anyway can we appreciate the colors in mio

damn discord compression SUCKS

[graceful cairn]

have you gotten the promised land achievement btw

[light swan]

ive 100%ed the game yea

[ancient mortar]

Another great artstyle for a game less people have seen is lisa the pointless

[light swan]

hearing asmas ballad in the post credits scene as we walk up to the thingy.... SO peak

[severe hemlock]

Honestly this artstyle would have killed in a 3d platformer

[graceful cairn]

damn! i still have some stuff left to do but theres little to no documentation and im not scouring the map for ts

[burnt pagoda]

the camera looks so. awkward icl

[heady iron]

Nintendo, please make the next Mario in this art style

[orchid locust]

ig we're mio screenshot posting here's some random gameplay ones cause the actually beautiful ones i have are severe spoilers 💀

[graceful cairn]

IKR

[severe hemlock]

I think you can make this style with a custom SSAO code and section maps

[light swan]

its awesome, im manually controlling it in the vid

[graceful cairn]

i have so many screenshots of the endings lmao

[burnt pagoda]

ohh ic

[light swan]

random mio screenshot in the most useless area of the game

[graceful cairn]

waittt thats right above the ||shii|| fight

[burnt pagoda]

HELLO

WHY DID THEY GO SO HARD ON THAT AREA

[light swan]

FINQAL BOSS SPOILERS

[graceful cairn]

so real

[light swan]

for others

[ancient mortar]

rain world has a great artstyle

[severe hemlock]

Damn it, the spoiler warning comes before the spoiler I saw it

[light swan]

i wish it was bigger but we have better looking areas too

[graceful cairn]

not my thing

[light swan]

forget about it until you play the game

[severe hemlock]

someone bash my head in with a bat

[light swan]

@burnt pagoda maytbe this might interest you, early game spoilers

[ancient mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-five-pebbles-no-i-disagree-gif-26547242

[light swan]

i think this is still with manual camera control

[severe hemlock]

my top two artstyles are hades II and silksong

[light swan]

but yea it is, its the only place im at rn

[burnt pagoda]

damn holy shit

ok the closer i look the more it grows on me

[lapis sleet]

Fellas I just beat lost lace

[light swan]

note that this is all going through discord compression

everything is blurry af especially my screenshots

[burnt pagoda]

wait ur right

the raw colors……

[graceful cairn]

i wish i had a reason to replay mio ngl

[burnt pagoda]

i cant imagine how good theyd look lol

[light swan]

my 2nd playthrough is just doing every boss hitless with 0 damage upgrades

[burnt pagoda]

ggs!

[light swan]

but im way too good at the game so they end too fast 💔

[heady iron]

I played it on my phone for the first few hours on vacation then moved to pc

[lapis sleet]

It took more times to beat groal the great the lost lace

[heady iron]

Nice upgrade

[ancient mortar]

You know what game had an unexpectedly brilliant artstyle? look outside

[orchid locust]

illusion you were right about sunsail in crucible i'm so fast

[light swan]

YAY its so fun

[graceful cairn]

did you find (normal ending final boss spoilers) ||ati|| really easy for a final boss on your first playthrough too

[light swan]

and it makes things so much more intersting cuz of energy management and you cant airstall as long

[light swan]

it wasnt too easy

[graceful cairn]

especially when the ||embedders|| exist 🥀

[light swan]

i think the regular final boss is harder than sv

[graceful cairn]

than wha

[light swan]

||embedders, sol & vin||

[graceful cairn]

ohh

[heady iron]

||Atmos|| is the most frustrating boss I fought so far, the rest were fine

[graceful cairn]

nah im ngl i used the eroded bosses assist for them cause two shotting just isnt fun for me

[light swan]

the thing with sv is that theyve perfected simple attacks

so its really easy to dodge, you just gotta be consistent

its a hard learning curve but it focuses on consistency and precision over brute forcing and shifts the focus onto what matters

[graceful cairn]

well im bad at that! it was fun making a whole new build for it though

[opaque sigil]

Oh right I never even found that fight

[light swan]

the attacks themselves are basic and intuitive which balances things out too

not to say theyre easy, but i think its awesome how fine tuned they are

[iron trellis]

what

[graceful cairn]

i think (mio final boss spoiler again) ||shii|| was my favorite though

[ancient mortar]

https://giphy.com/gifs/degisikhesabmis-gamevault-memevault-VOkpcujSu5L77ysRiD

[light swan]

100% its SO FUN

i managed to convince the devs to buff them

[opaque sigil]

That one’s great

[iron trellis]

what are you guys even talking about\

[light swan]

i kill them too fast to enjoy them

[scarlet karma]

skongers when they are forced to only talk about silksong instead of mio (level impossible)

[light swan]

a different game, MIO: Memories In Orbit

[opaque sigil]

||both the final bosses are really good, I love Ati as well||

[iron trellis]

but why in the skong chat

[graceful cairn]

so fun till you die to the attack where he literally just walks to the other side 😭 im really good at parrying (cause i played nine sols) but its just so hard to predict that attack

[burnt pagoda]

i like hollow knight silksong

[light swan]

@burnt pagoda what do you think

[light swan]

ive never once gotten hit by that attack

but its an awesome attack i just wish it wasnt so easy to circumvent

[heady iron]

There is indeed a rule that if there's genuine skong discussion that other topics should be moved

[burnt pagoda]

holy shit the color transition

thats awesome

[graceful cairn]

HOW

[graceful cairn]

i hate this place bro i remember warping to the promenade save every 5 minutes so i could go down to the lower part of the map cause they dont let you fast travel there for some reason. thats my biggest gripe with this game

[burnt pagoda]

yeah ok this game actually looks great

[glacial estuary]

Finally, the fight took half an hour.

[burnt pagoda]

ggs!

[ancient mortar]

Ooh i didn't know you get a new menu screen for doing that ending

[opaque sigil]

||yeah they could’ve let the overseer pathways travel from one tier to another it wouldn’t have caused any issues I can think of ||

[ancient mortar]

thats awesome, well done

[opaque sigil]

There’s even an ||overseer you find on the lower tier for an upper tier node like bruh||

[glacial estuary]

Somehow less than Lace 2 doing Speedrunner.

[heady iron]

I haven't found the overseer for the northeast save point in promenade

[graceful cairn]

i always assumed it was some sort of technical issue cause you can ||rotate the whole ass bottom part|| but idk

[light swan]

5 minutes ??? why would you ever need to do it that often

[opaque sigil]

I have to imagine they could’ve made it work if they wanted to

[light swan]

also the most latest patch sped up the elevators

[opaque sigil]

I fumbled around a bit figuring out ||how to reach the crucible||

[graceful cairn]

exploring!

[light swan]

theres a perfectly good lore reason for why the top half and bottom half are separated so im not concerned, and you hardly need to go back and forth much

[opaque sigil]

Took a minute to realize I didn’t have to play rush hour with the shuttles

[light swan]

this is true

[opaque sigil]

Yeah it’s fine I’m not saying it as a criticism is just was slightly inconvenient

[light swan]

i dont think its very impactful especially now that the elevators are sped up tho

[graceful cairn]

idc about lore i want convenience!

[radiant sluice]

why is lost garmond so hard bro 💔

[graceful cairn]

so true

[arctic epoch]

RAIN WORLD MENTIONED

[opaque sigil]

Yeah it’s not impactful

[radiant sluice]

like its so bad i genuinely forget about the sad part

[opaque sigil]

Honestly I have very few criticisms of mio

[radiant sluice]

but then i see zaza bein scared and immediately get depressed

[light swan]

the ones i have get fixed because the devs actually listen

[ancient mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-rain-world-grass-worm-gif-27507583

[graceful cairn]

W

[opaque sigil]

I wish the decay left like one more layer of protection unbroken

[light swan]

its not like, "oh my god MIO news from the devs"

we have conversations every day

[graceful cairn]

feels kinda like artificial difficulty ngl

[light swan]

did you know that it lowers enemy and boss and npc hp as well

[opaque sigil]

It was a bit funny for a boss to start doing two damage attacks after all that

[graceful cairn]

ohh interesting

[opaque sigil]

I did actually notice that yeah

[light swan]

you might notice that as you go around, npcs around you start dying

and bosses get easier from them too

[opaque sigil]

That dog in metropolis 😔

[light swan]

by the end of the game some species of enemies are extinct

shii is the one in charge of the spine currently, which is connected to every other robot in the vessel, so every time theres a tremor he feels all their pain at once

instead of having bosses deal double damage (which practically ignores half your hp) you lose a shield every time you gain two

[opaque sigil]

How may shields can you gain

[light swan]

by the end of the game, 5 normal shields and 5 period cramped hsields

[opaque sigil]

I think I wound up with like two shields not counting the mod

[light swan]

some period cramps are scripted, like the one in vaults

its really sad because as youre passing through the ||pipes in the vaults, you pass by an npc in the foreground who is trapped and you need to save||

you meet them another time in the ||pipes as you come back after getting kickefd out||

after traversing the entire area, you finally save them

and then you both get a period cramp

and Rocintante dies in front of your eyes

if thats not sad, idk what is

[heady iron]

Love spoilers

[light swan]

its pretty out of context

likely stuff you wiull not remember or even understand

but sure ill spoiler

[opaque sigil]

It’s crazy that you ||end the fight with ati using that limping attack||

[light swan]

i dont think you know who rocintante is

the game is balanced around the period cramps and so is the story, i think its a great addition and its not just there for artificial difficulty

[graceful cairn]

its crazy how ||ati carries mio's corpse to the heart|| (huge major spoiler)

[light swan]

most period cramps are more lategame, by the time you understand the gameplay loop and arent a struggling limping child

[opaque sigil]

It makes ||shii|| incredibly dangerous since he can double hit

But that’s fair

[light swan]

i frankly dont know since i alwayus fight the bos hitless

[opaque sigil]

Some of the attacks if they hit you on the first part will snag you and unavoidably ding you again

[light swan]

did you notice that ||in the first final boss, ati's hair always droops while mio's hair always perks up, symbolizing how ati wants to put khlia to rest while mio wants to save khlia and the rest of the vessel

in the true ending, ATI's hair is the one perking up as she carries mio's corpse to khlia to save her, while the dying mio's hair droops down in defeat||

[graceful cairn]

see i missed all of the other effects of it so i just thought it sucked

[light swan]

yea ik theres double damage i just never experience unfortunately lol

[graceful cairn]

omg bro how much attention to detail is in this game

[opaque sigil]

I do think that didn’t have to be the case but with the mod that targets the enemy when you dodge it can work to your advantage anyways if you just dodge smack dodge

Counter measures

[light swan]

CEASE UR MOUNTERS

[vagrant panther]

GIVE ME ACCESS TO THE VCS

[light swan]

a lot :3

[graceful cairn]

nah gng you gotta talk more

[graceful cairn]

actually more importantly HOW MUCH HAVE YOU FUCKING STUDIED THIS GAME

[opaque sigil]

Counter measures is really fun

[light swan]

i noticed that the first time i got to the final boss

i might be a bit special in the head

the random bot dialogue hits so hard after a replay too though

[graceful cairn]

see mio is the only game that made my jaw genuinely drop multiple times which is why i love the lore so much

[opaque sigil]

I can only imagine

[light swan]

theres this one robot ||above the "cathedral" though its more of a "graveyard" for humans, he talks about how everyone else lost their memories but he still remembers every single human he and his friends killed in noden's rebellion||

the character writing is so much deeper once you get whats happening too

[graceful cairn]

as a dodge enthusiast i can confirm

[light swan]

ati's character writing is genuinely fucking peak and the game's ending has created so much morality discussions in the mio server

[vagrant panther]

I WAS HERE IN 2024

I BEAT BOTH HK AND SS

[opaque sigil]

I was fighting against just dodging everything for so long but the final boss broke me

[opaque sigil]

There’s a mio server?

[vagrant panther]

i hate these "level up to be able to do things you should just normally be allowed to do"

like bro, just ban the bad apples on the spot

[light swan]

yea

[vagrant panther]

instead of this 'are you a robot"

[burnt pagoda]

easier said than done when its a server this big

[graceful cairn]

if you have enough messages you can make a ticket about it

[vagrant panther]

mentality, captcha was more lenient than this

[graceful cairn]

so true!

[vagrant panther]

imagine if with captcha you had to spend 5 hours chatting with chatgpt

[light swan]

he talks about how everyone else has forgotten what happened, but how hes still stuck with the memory

[burnt pagoda]

i have no idea how i already have access to vcs

[graceful cairn]

i didnt know that i gotta join this place

[vagrant panther]

thats basically any server that does the "you cant do things until you talk for 3-5 hours"

nintendo tutorials be like

[light swan]

i just made it my tag, yall can join if yall want

[light swan]

if thats not depressing idk what is

everything involving ||the pearls|| is also depressing

[opaque sigil]

Yeah

[light swan]

all the trauma they had to deal with

[graceful cairn]

complete lie

no join button....

[light swan]

Bruh

[opaque sigil]

May be a mobile moment

[graceful cairn]

this is the part i know the least about cause at a certain point i stopped paying attention 💔

[light swan]

||mio slowly lighting candles for her deepest friend asma... who died to help save her sister||

||liho retreating into despair and neglect as he struggles with lura's death and soon, the death of all the travellers||

[graceful cairn]

ig i never really wondered why she died thats actually pretty interesting

[light swan]

||halyn who, despite her outward nature, tried and did whatever she could no matter what to salvage the situation||

its kind of crazy just how much halyn did in order to save what she could because its spread all throughout the game

[opaque sigil]

halyn was kinda the goat

[light swan]

||trying to turn the gloomwater leak into a good thing for example, using it to keep the robots alive||

although as ||tomo explained that kinda backfired||

she also nearly managed to get a working ||embedding ritual but of course that didnt work out, subjecting her friend to an eternity of suffering just like lura||

i dont really get amytis's character unfortunately

[graceful cairn]

when i entered the crucible i saw one of those things you get upgrades at and i just locked tf in and ignored all the lore 🔥

[light swan]

😭

its ok the lore in that place is slightly less impactful as everything else

[graceful cairn]

we should lowkey stop yapping about mio here...

[opaque sigil]

Even Sam ||shutting down the crucible was pretty sad||

[light swan]

tbh this channel never talks about silksong

[light swan]

yea

[heady iron]

Wow I only have 8 hours so far

[light swan]

the point of no return, signifying that there really is no coming back from this doomed mission

that area theme is for some reason so damn sad now though

[opaque sigil]

I also really loved the ||little epilogue thing after the true ending||

[light swan]

yea it was so sad for some reason

[opaque sigil]

Perfect amount of bittersweet

[earnest drift]

who are the best written characters in the series so far

[graceful cairn]

lowkey pretty positive overall

[opaque sigil]

Yeah

[light swan]

in hk? lace & pale king imo

[tight viper]

I feel so damn stupid right now

[somber osprey]

Hi

Hi

[earnest drift]

I think hornet’s up there as well

[somber osprey]

[light swan]

most likely but she doesnt compare to the other two imo

[earnest drift]

I’ve come to realise silksong is like a redemption arc for hornet

because she was a pretty awful person in hollow knight

[light swan]

yea it is

[earnest drift]

act 3 is the first time she truly acts like a hero since she cracked open the hollow knight’s skull for the knight to fight the radiance

[light swan]

😭

thats a lot of widow hp ngl

[earnest drift]

snitch pick on shaman huh

oh this is spellless

[tight viper]

pantheon of pharloom mod gives it a massive increase

[candid kayak]

nerf widow, they deal too much damage

[light swan]

hornet just doenst make me feel the same way lace and pk do which is fine cuz hornets still awesomely written

[tight viper]

yeah, cross stitch would make this free and thread storm would make air stalling easy

[earnest drift]

I love how lace is so obsessed with hornet

doing whatever she can to get in her way and taunt her

[light swan]

use sharpdart

[earnest drift]

I love how lace represents the culmination of everyone’s despair in act 3, hornet is almost the only person who still thinks Pharloom can be saved, and she proves it by rescuing the most nihilistic person in Pharloom

[full basin]

I don't how how I just beat Second Sentinal first try with wanderer's crest at 2 in the morning

[light swan]

sentinel is an easy bossfight to beat

[earnest drift]

fun af tho

[tight viper]

Also would make things too easy, figured I'd just ban em outright

[light swan]

i dont see how sharpdart would make things easy since its all horizontal

[earnest drift]

how bout rune rage

[cursive breach]

20 or 25 fleas for fleatopia

[light swan]

rune rage is good for airstalling

[fiery rune]

Gah, found the way to all the 3 hearts, sadly all are blocked by bosses or arenas that seem hard.

[light swan]

since shartfart is movement its a bit more conscious than silkspear imo

[tight viper]

Horizontal with a lotta iframes

[light swan]

ig so

[cerulean sable]

fuck it we song

[mellow aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollow-knight-pure-vessel-pure-vessel-hornet-hornet-hollow-knight-gif-7933320937634107440

[light swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1472143802260127805/Average_putrified_ducts.gif

[mellow aurora]

LMFAO

[fiery rune]

Flea festival was fun!

[graceful cairn]

love how this isnt even an exaggeration 😭

[light swan]

architect crest users at 0% of their power

i still love this clip it’s so awesome

[mellow aurora]

how did they do that weird drill thingy

[light swan]

delvers drill tool

[mellow aurora]

o

[light swan]

more architect clips

[cursive breach]

WAIT WHAT IS SHERMA A MAN

[spark anchor]

yes

[light swan]

yea

[mellow aurora]

I USED TO THINK SHERMA WAS A WOMAN BRO

[cursive breach]

u telling me shakra is manlier than sherma

[light swan]

no shakra is a woman

[cursive breach]

exactly

[light swan]

no one said shakra is manlier than sherma i think

[minor sparrow]

dude if lost sinner's big ass chrome dome of a head hits me one more time when she does her stupid ass scuttle im gonna lose my shit

[slender juniper]

Rate my lost lace build

[minor sparrow]

-50/10 public execution tomorrow

[ancient mortar]

Wreath of purity really carrying it's weight

[minor sparrow]

also really should have ran architect silkshot

otherwise you'll never beat the boss

[cerulean sable]

they should gen legalize drillchitect

[minor sparrow]

i need to take a break from lost sinner lol

[cursive breach]

so 20 fleas or 25 how much is req for fleatopia

[light swan]

22

[slim glen]

Idk but all i know u dont gotta get EVERY flea for it

[light swan]

max is 30, need 22 for fleatopia

[ancient mortar]

I think shard pendant might be too useful here

And i see a distinct lack of needle phial

[slender juniper]

What else would I put

[slender juniper]

I already got the gland

[slim glen]

same

[light swan]

scuttlebrace is pretty helpful against her triple slashes, i think rosary cannon works well here but flea brew could be replaced with neeedle phial

[ancient mortar]

thiefs mark, spider strings.

[light swan]

spider strings is good for stopping enemies, wouldnt work here

[ancient mortar]

this is a build for lost lace

i don't think you can needolin her

[light swan]

and spider strings is crazy good against lost lace

[earnest drift]

L mine is better

[light swan]

i like to run it with shaman bind builds but architect focuses more in silk skills than binding

theifs mark is really good, has a good synergy with rosary cannon wehre more rosaries means more cannons

[earnest drift]

at least you can still use two of your red tools

[light swan]

but honestly shard pendant is doing morethan compass anwyay, replace compass with spider strings

[slender juniper]

Ts better?

[austere linden]

Where the devs stoned out of their mind when they made the meat delivery quest i don’t know how anyone and do that quest without cheating or mods

[ancient mortar]

having tools that are empty feels like cheating

[light swan]

use quicksling pollip pouch plasmium phial

[earnest drift]

needle phial is worse than rosary cannon right

[light swan]

no it 4shots the hardest boss in the game

[slender juniper]

Perfect

[ancient mortar]

swap compass for thiefs mark so you lose rosaries constantly

[light swan]

dead bugs purse is good here ngl

use something less good

[slender juniper]

Time to go bully grand reeds for rosaries

[light swan]

put back on shard pendant

[ancient mortar]

Magnetite brooch is a good choice when the boss doesnt drop rosaries

[light swan]

no its still lowkey a good tool

honestly replace egg with wreath of purity

[nova relic]

Can we agree that hollow knights bosses are definitely harder than silksongs bosses?

[light swan]

only the dlc ones

[ancient mortar]

I mean both are equally useless in this situation

since it's architect

[light swan]

no wreath of purity is more impactful

helps against lost lace more

[earnest drift]

can muckmaggots beat lost lace

[earnest drift]

only absrad is

absrad is the only hard boss in either game anyway

[light swan]

oblobbles:

god tamer:

[earnest drift]

oblobbles are hard to no hit, not hard to beat

[light swan]

ascended no eyes:

[coarse leaf]

Ehh

Harder? Not really

But more fun(mostly)? Hell yeah
SS bosses had a higher high, but also a way lower low sometimes

[earnest drift]

nah there are no silksong bosses worse than marmu or flukemarm

[light swan]

lace:

[glad flower]

i heard that using taunt temporarily increases damage

[light swan]

25% increase i think

[coarse leaf]

If you leave SB2 and Ass Jim to Act3, they becoma voided, and with that, they WILL be worse than 10 seconds of pogo(flukemarn mhm) or marmuu who is also not really a pain in the ass

[glacial kelp]

isnt it 50

[light swan]

no sb2 is easier voided

[light swan]

maybe it is and im stupid

[civic grotto]

Wonder if Fayforn can be considered a higher being or not because it does have an entire mountain named after it but maybe it’s just a really rare kind of bug

Fay gives me vibes of Unn being a potentially weak but still higher being

[earnest drift]

i'd rather fight a boss with 3 unique attacks and 3 overused void attacks than fucking marmu

[glacial kelp]

why cant the fayforn be named after the mountain

[coarse leaf]

Thats honestly the worst take I've ever heard

[glacial kelp]

what if the mountain was a pale being

[coarse leaf]

Why
She just wanna play with you😢😔

[earnest drift]

it's because when they do a void attack they're wasting time and staying still when they could be summoning tarmites

[civic grotto]

It’s possible but like I said reminds me of Unn and how there is the lake of Unn named after the slug

Also Fay is not affected by thread Implying it can’t be controlled like so many other creature

[earnest drift]

for some reason i only just realised i put marmu as the absolute worst boss in the franchise (except zote)

[light swan]

they don’t summon tarmites when voided afaik

[earnest drift]

wait
they don't summon tarmites at all?

[light swan]

i think so yea

[earnest drift]

wow the void must've eaten the animal-whispering part of their brain

[light swan]

also the void attacks give you time to heal, reposition, and wair for the platforms to come back

if i’m wrong about the tarmite thing then oops

[glacial kelp]

is the knight a pale being

[light swan]

even then, gives you time to kill the taemites if they still do summon those

[civic grotto]

Technically yeah it’s the child of 2 pale beings just corrupted by the void

[earnest drift]

yes

[earnest drift]

not corrupted, they've fused with it properly because they were born in it

[worldly knoll]

Hi guyss

[civic grotto]

I meant that as a figure of speak not literally lol

[earnest drift]

with lost lace and lost garmond, the void has taken them over
with the knight and pure vessel, the void is them

[light swan]

i guess the worst take that persons ever heard wasn’t so bad after all

[earnest drift]

but for some reason pure vessel is horrible at using the void to fight

[civic grotto]

Well their body is still composed of a higher being’s shell they were probably taught how to use those abilities more than their void powers

[light swan]

the knight wasn’t taught shit

as soon as they’re born they’re abandoned in the birthplace

[civic grotto]

Plus I don’t think the pale king would want the hollow knight to be tossing around void everywhere because uhh that stuff tries to kill everything lol

[earnest drift]

it's interesting how pure vessel was trained for decades and barely knows how to use the void
the knight was abandoned, figured everything out on its own and became the master of the void

[earnest drift]

yeah i think this is the reason

[fathom saddle]

fr if pure vessel like unshackled himself and used all his void powers

[light swan]

main character energy

[fathom saddle]

would be crazy

[light swan]

to be fair pv knows stuff too it’s not that crazy

[earnest drift]

pv's pale parents might have tried to suppress its void capabilities because they didn't understand them

[fathom saddle]

i mean like if he was trained to use his void powers alongside his regular fighting

[fathom saddle]

yeah

[light swan]

but the knight just fuses void with the soul spells which they learned from the shamans

[civic grotto]

Well not really understand them probably feared it instead

[fathom saddle]

ye cuz this guy was abandoned at birth

and hes a pretty average looking vessel

[light swan]

pv wasn’t

[copper hedge]

bro

https://www.reddit.com/r/Silksong/s/4xrWxc8zAD

[light swan]

the knight is all self taught

[fathom saddle]

ye talking abt the knight

[nova relic]

Fair enough imo I feel like the bosses were a let down for me, cauze im the type of guy that likes to struggle a lot cause when I saw lost lace I thought she was gonna be hard but it just let me down

[earnest drift]

is this with all upgrades

[civic grotto]

They were dealing with a substance that has the power to kill even gods and being gods themselves I’d probably be worried too

[fathom saddle]

ye

[light swan]

the knight wasn’t too good at combat before arriving to hallownest obviously

i know y’all struggled on gruz mom

[fathom saddle]

bro my record is like 45-50 seconds

nah i had trouble on false knight tho

[copper hedge]

tl;dr: its one needle upgrade down from max

[earnest drift]

oh ok so it's possible in vanilla

[fathom saddle]

id say i got good during second playthrough (dont ask why i created new save after beating it once)

[copper hedge]

hmmm i should do Lace 2 next sometime with that build

[fathom saddle]

do u guys mod skong

[copper hedge]

for now its Unravelled bc i want my music player in my home

and blast surgical records on bellhart

[minor sparrow]

Yeah I'm trying to beat lost sinner right now

[civic grotto]

I can’t wait for team cherry to make a game featuring the hollow knight and the rooms have to be even larger because the hollow knight is massive compared to the knight and hornet

[minor sparrow]

It's...going

[copper hedge]

Hollow Knight: Epilogue

[coarse leaf]

LL would be hard, if the boss wouldnt be the same boss, with the same attack patterns you fought 2 times already,

LL is really underwhelming of a final boss imo

[subtle hollow]

Lost sinner?

[coarse leaf]

Mod

[subtle hollow]

Ohhh

[minor sparrow]

Yes, modded boss

[alpine inlet]

holy hell they weren't kidding. Beastfly 2 in Act 2 is probably the hardest Act 2 boss lmfao

[earnest drift]

i like lost lace

[copper hedge]

should have included some void summons than just void bullets

[subtle hollow]

Is it hard?

[minor sparrow]

I'd say so

[coarse leaf]

Yep, but its fun too

[subtle hollow]

And for refrence phantom aint hard?

For u gyes

[coarse leaf]

Most modded bosses (especially for HK) are absolute bullet hell and dumb, but Lost Sinner IS fun

[minor sparrow]

I think we could have done without lace 1, but either way I think Lost Lace is probably the most dynamic boss fight and I quite liked her as a final boss

[civic grotto]

Phantom was a easier boss than last judge imo

[coarse leaf]

Difficilty is subjective

[subtle hollow]

Yeah

[coarse leaf]

I struggled more with ass jim than any other boss in the franchise

[alpine inlet]

and honestly all because Last Judge has double damage in everything

[edgy patio]

the new patch is insane i can't believe theres lore accurate silk soar now

[alpine inlet]

if Phantom also deals double damage in everything she would be bs

[minor sparrow]

Eh they were aight

[copper hedge]

true

[vagrant rampart]

Lowk I found judge just a little easier

[burnt pagoda]

besides absrad i think karmelita was the hardest boss ive fought

[brave geyser]

I struggled more with savage beastfly 1 while having completed p5ab before silksong

[earnest drift]

"Hornet can throw her needle 30 (human) yards"
she can now

[copper hedge]

Phantom feels like Hornet Protector but with Steam

[brave geyser]

than literally every other boss

[minor sparrow]

I did die like once or twice because I tried to dash away from their encroaching ass throw attack

[coarse leaf]

Besided Act 3 ass jim
Abs Rad was the hardest i've fought

[minor sparrow]

That shit bouncy for no reason

[brave geyser]

Hornet sentinel if she was good*

[coarse leaf]

Karmelita was suprisingly easy for me

[glacial kelp]

ass jim is impossible how do you play with no hands

[brave geyser]

Figure it out

[burnt pagoda]

i think my playstyle makes bosses like karmelita and lost lace harder for me than they should be

[edgy patio]

this chat is cooked

[subtle hollow]

Im having a mental debate what ennemy i hate the most, its ither i thougth it was flintflame flyers but its prob the gohsts

[copper hedge]

imagine if the second Hornet fight actually has her teleport around like a spider

[burnt pagoda]

theyre not too bad if i dont try to be stylish

[brave geyser]

Ts hk-general 😭

[minor sparrow]

Abs rad's definitely the hardest boss I've faced but honestly that's dlc and we have yet to see what silksong does

[brave geyser]

I'd rather have that over instashaws

[burnt pagoda]

im very excited for sk's dlc

[coarse leaf]

Crystal Hunter from HK
Or the Birds from Elden Ring

[alpine inlet]

oh my god you reminded me how much i hate the ghosts so much

[subtle hollow]

U Main architecth?

[subtle hollow]

I do

[copper hedge]

Awakened Grand Mother Silk

[minor sparrow]

Hunter/reaper. Reaper when I want to have fun

[copper hedge]

(GMS after her morning coffee)

[coarse leaf]

Granny silk gonna be hard finally

[subtle hollow]

Ok

[brave geyser]

Drilletect is fun

[minor sparrow]

Lost lace honestly took me significantly longer than PV

[subtle hollow]

Lol

[minor sparrow]

Mostly because PV is more fun than difficult imo

[civic grotto]

I think phantom being as easy as they are comes from the lore reason of them being on their last legs and the gameplay reason of having to go through the mist to actually reach her

[copper hedge]

quest idea: bring a rare pale coffee bean, and GMS will eat it like a candy and becomes Awakened. GMS hard mode unlocked.

[minor sparrow]

Pv is more aligned to karmelita for me

[brave geyser]

B'sides i like them they are awesome and i hope they get a rematch

their needolin singing is so good too

!wiki Phantom

[mental swallow]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Phantom

Hollow Knight Wiki

Phantom

Phantom is a boss in Hollow Knight: Silksong. They are a mournful creature strung from Silk found within the Exhaust Organ. They function as the final boss of the alternate route through Act 1.

Location

Exhaust Organ

​

Combat Values

Health

650

Damage Modifiers

1.2    1    0.85    0.75    0.7

Reward

Cross Stitch
Access to The Citadel

Journal Kills

1

​

Miscellaneous

Gender

Unspecified (English)
Various (Translations)

Theme

Phantom

Singing

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/File:Phantom_Sing.ogg

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/File:Phantom_Sing_02.ogg

[minor sparrow]

If I just want to have a fun fight with a bit of spice I'll fight them

[brave geyser]

Analyze ts

[copper hedge]

wait Phantom has needolin voicelines

[coarse leaf]

Update idea: add fucking NG+
And rework the quest system

[copper hedge]

bruh. i should have

[alpine inlet]

Im really, really hoping for a NG+ system where you can start with any crest

[coarse leaf]

!wiki Ass Jim

[mental swallow]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Disgraced_Chef_Lugoli
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page Ass Jim for a direct link.

Hollow Knight Wiki

Disgraced Chef Lugoli

Disgraced Chef Lugoli is a boss in Hollow Knight: Silksong. They are a once-honoured Roach Tender chef of the Citadel found within the Sinner's Road. They hold the Pickled Muckmaggot required for the Great Taste of Pharloom wish.

Location

Sinner's Road

​

Combat Values

Health

600/Black-Threaded1200

Damage Modifiers

1.7    1.2    1    0.9    0.85

Reward

Pickled Muckmaggot

Journal Kills

1

​

Miscellaneous

Affiliations

Roach Tenders (Member)

Gender

Unspecified (English)
Female (Translations)

Theme

Cut Through (Main) (Enemy Gauntlet)
Cut Through (Main + Percussion) (Lugoli)

Singing

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/File:Disgraced_Chef_Lugoli_Sing.ogg

[subtle hollow]

How manny tries have did you take for the conducter gauntlet

[civic grotto]

I have a feeling there will be dream boss equivalents in silksong later down the line using the needle to access them

[copper hedge]

beating Mossmother with a sharpdart, barbed bracelet, and voltvessel build

[alpine inlet]

like

[burnt pagoda]

what makes ll so hard imo is how difficult it is to see what she does

[brave geyser]

with this kind of voice they are NOT withering anytime soon

[burnt pagoda]

its all void..............

[minor sparrow]

Current quest system is fine, and I honestly never cared for ng+ in any game

[strange raptor]

I just spent 3 hours trying to get the architects creative

[earnest drift]

you'll get used to it eventually don't worry

what's wrong with the quest system

[minor sparrow]

I only have that issue on the left side of her arena

Though I do get the sentiment

[strange raptor]

I now also hate the underworks with a burning passion

[brave geyser]

Quest system is fine the way it is

[alpine inlet]

If you can start with any crest in later playthroughs. Are there any crests that will be useless/busted as hell?

[copper hedge]

dude 😭

[brave geyser]

i just think the money rewards should increase

[copper hedge]

why now

[civic grotto]

I can’t wait for groal the great to get a dream boss equivalent rematch

Groal the Grand

[minor sparrow]

I think it'd be neat if they had the quest equivalent of the deliveries where you could just do them for a decent amount of rosaries

[copper hedge]

Their shells are theirs. Their souls are theirs. Our hate is no more more.

[minor sparrow]

Other than that, they aight

[alpine inlet]

How do people get rosaries?

I just farm the guys at High Halls and call it a day

[minor sparrow]

Actually killing the enemies in the rooms I go through

[brave geyser]

Sell relics
Do quests
Farm grand reeds
Find secret rosary necklaces

[burnt pagoda]

save editing

[copper hedge]

fuck this discord bs bro

[brave geyser]

Apkvision

[minor sparrow]

Also getting psalm cylinders

[brave geyser]

Are we serious rn my brother

Actually what's your phone number

[minor sparrow]

Bro they really don't want your ass listening to it

[copper hedge]

im just gonna watch some youtube clip of it

[civic grotto]

I capped out all of my rosaries necklaces after crafting a bunch lol it was completely by accident I farmed that much

[brave geyser]

alr tell me what u think

[minor sparrow]

You're gonna go on youtube to find it and your account's gonna be terminated

[copper hedge]

THEY ARE KEEPING ME AWAY FROM PEAK

[brave geyser]

Lowk though holy

[minor sparrow]

Wifi cuts out and shit

[brave geyser]

Karmelitta has competition

[minor sparrow]

Oh there is a neat mod that gives all enemies rosaries scaled by their health

[earnest drift]

who had the most valid crashout in the hk verse

[brave geyser]

I loved it when asgore said "My will shal never die" and just went fuck all

[copper hedge]

damn. her singing's... peak 🥹

also i agree with this comment

[floral delta]

@brave geyser

[brave geyser]

@floral delta

[earnest drift]

yoo i just ran into shakra killing voided bugs

[minor sparrow]

Also I like how you said hk verse, 2 characters from the same game

[civic grotto]

Who’s more likely to be the last boss in a pantheon style dlc though upgraded lost lace or fully awakened grand mother silk

[earnest drift]

who had a valid crashout in the first game

maybe uhh
the hollow knight?

[minor sparrow]

Probably gms, at least I'd hope so

[minor sparrow]

Radiance had a valid crash out at first, then she went a bit overboard

[brave geyser]

true

[minor sparrow]

Just a teensy weensy bit

[brave geyser]

well a bit is an understatement

She killed an entire fucking kingdom

Turned basically everyone into zombies

[earnest drift]

nah she overdid it way too much, not valid

[minor sparrow]

Tomato tomato

[copper hedge]

he feelin a lil greedy with that soul power

[brave geyser]

Reanimated them into terrorists

[earnest drift]

she killed her own tribe lol

[brave geyser]

Fucking killed tuk

And uhh yea she sucks

[minor sparrow]

Happens

We've all done it

[burnt pagoda]

god as much as i love witch fighting lost lace with it feels kind of ass

[copper hedge]

who's we

[minor sparrow]

You and me

[burnt pagoda]

its swings come out so slow to get any good hits in without risk

[civic grotto]

Idk I think by the time hollow knight starts the radiance is so lost in its rage it might not even be killing bugs intentionally it’s probably by accident

[earnest drift]

does anyone really sympathise with radiance i just find her actions too overdone and her motivation too simple to root for her

[minor sparrow]

I think I'm gonna pogo today hit lost lace get hit by contact damage

[copper hedge]

his chance of taking down the citadel is no more more

[burnt pagoda]

TRUTH NUKE