sk-discussion

[eager pelican]

I lost faith in humanity bro…

[steep acorn]

chill

[oak dragon]

Did they actually add this to the game...

[twilit reef]

Mods can we ban this guy

[eager pelican]

like bro..

[languid plaza]

worst emote

[vale whale]

earlier my phone was on charge and i was on my switch and i held down on the home button to lower the brightness while i checked my phone and THEY WERE BOTH AT 67%

[proven thicket]

I swear to God I will punt every person here that does six seven

[fringe pollen]

Jeez. I went back to the cradle 3 times looking for the 7th shroom riddle. Looked it up and was like... Oh! It's a tiny crevice!

[weak ice]

free emote

[gaunt root]

oh phantom mad easy 3rd try

[indigo eagle]

the only animated indie shows i watched are murder drones, some episodes of digital circus and like 4 episodes of hazbin hotel thats it

[arctic epoch]

@silver nacelle @drowsy hazel i got my number, what about you two?

[untold dune]

stolas would be too overdramatic but in the crybaby way and grimm would hate his ass

[fringe pollen]

Lot of tiny crevices in this game.

[oak dragon]

😭

[supple reef]

the best bm is the goblin cry

[buoyant sphinx]

what bug is the vault keeper guy

[mental arch]

you can see on the map that theres a way up i just spammed silk soar until I found it

[normal tulip]

mods, rip his heart out

[oak dragon]

😭😭😭

[rain socket]

hornet is only racist towards flies, meanwhile vog is racist towards every species of bug that aren't fleas

[normal token]

Address me 🐘

[worldly umbra]

they reached 6.7 million followers on instagram and added this as a free emote for everyone to claim

[languid plaza]

a bug

[oak dragon]

I don't dw

[silver nacelle]

I gave up after my shameful display of mixing up my equations. I'm gonna go cry.

[supple reef]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-clash-of-clans-goblin-green-wah-wah-wah-gif-2173721757992636770

[eager pelican]

does anyone have a silksong ios port

[weak ice]

a racist is a racist no matter how u put it

[oak dragon]

😭

[proven thicket]

You are right about that. In general do you think Grimm could fit in hellava boss or a character almost one to one comparison

[steep acorn]

🙂

[weak ice]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-goblin-emote-update-clash-royale-china-gif-9426582029252565792

[normal tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/mega-knight-mega-knight-clash-royale-chad-gif-23873105

[worldly umbra]

BUT GUYS I JUST TOOK A NAP AND HAD THE CRAZIEST DREAM

[vale whale]

they had a whole ass episode😭😭

[languid plaza]

rate me 5 stars on doordash please

[indigo eagle]

isnt helluva boss the gay demon show

[fringe pollen]

I used the grappler thing in there all over the place, but didn't think to use it near the corner lol

[proven thicket]

Bro. Can hyou stop.

[eager pelican]

that dosent even exist in the actual game

[untold dune]

what

[polar stag]

I don't deserve to make good jokes. I thought my joke about Hornet being a reflection of certain subset of gamers would land better tbh.

[arctic epoch]

we all have our own strength, your combinations was quite close actually, mainly because you go off of tools count and not per-crest

[supple reef]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-will-smith-smack-rock-gif-25260165

[weak ice]

yeah it does

[eager pelican]

?

[proven thicket]

He's been doing this for a while ignore him

[languid plaza]

is he sneaky

[untold dune]

ok lol

[mental arch]

enjoy that parkor sequence is pretty fun

[arctic epoch]

@drowsy hazel the clocks ticking

[weak ice]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-kasane-teto-rebecca-cyberpunk-cyberpunk-edgerunners-edgerunners-gif-13935517969141948085

[silver nacelle]

Still, a shameful display. ;-;

[fringe pollen]

Am I the only one who is anti-silk skill? I used silk spear like 3 times and disabled them entirely after that.

[pallid pine]

Finished my silksong's past map. Also posted it on some platforms

[steep acorn]

sure Sherlock Holmes

[alpine crest]

OH COME ON

[mental arch]

I would just always save my silk for binds

[supple reef]

jokes on you idek what this character is so it has no effect on me

[alpine crest]

I tried to downdash cancel my clawline but just ended up dashing into LL and dying to contact damage 😭

[timid kite]

did yall know surgeon key was possible without double jump??

[silver nacelle]

I main shaman. :3

[proven thicket]

Wait wait wait if you can make a map with all the mask shards and silk spools It would be amazing

[supple reef]

no

[weak ice]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[elfin edge]

you guys knw how to meet shanman snail at act 2 ?

[pallid pine]

Will do

[alpine crest]

And I did this before but Iframed through it so I have no bloody clue why it decided to screw me over now 😭

[fringe pollen]

It was too risky for me trying to use tools and accidentally wasting silk by tapping R1

[timid kite]

i only learned now

[indigo eagle]

im so glad metroidvanias arent in the oversatured genres segment as the roguelike oversaturation is fucking crazy bro 😭

[worldly umbra]

wheres aspid cloverlands? i cant tell lmao

[silver nacelle]

The same reason we know Mount Fay is possible without clawline.

[proven thicket]

You will be honored

[mental arch]

For act 2 at least double jump isnt necessary to beat the game

[zenith thunder]

good

[oak dragon]

It's ok lol

[timid kite]

what.

[silver nacelle]

Damn.

[arctic epoch]

AYO, MOUNT FAY B SIDE?!

[steep acorn]

You couldn't even save rita

[twilit reef]

VERDANIAAAA!!!🍀 ‼️

[indigo eagle]

there are too many sloppy roguelikes

[untold dune]

is it even ability locked for double jump?

[mental arch]

TOO SOON WOAHHH

[silver nacelle]

Yeah, there are multiple ways actually.

[surreal elbow]

It's crazy how much better you get at the game when you're on your 2nd playthrough

[fossil timber]

Hi guys it's primal aspid's cousin

[proven thicket]

How? Does it require any death skips with your silk?

[untold dune]

omg hi spit squit

[timid kite]

i js got to architect for my first time in steel soul

[mental arch]

https://tenor.com/view/toro-inoue-toro-cat-i-think-idk-bugburger2-doko-demo-issyou-gif-15676527076649689525

[indigo eagle]

im saving these maps bestie

[arctic epoch]

a lot.

[proven thicket]

Nice

[oak dragon]

NO I THOUGHT I WAS FREE

[indigo eagle]

I love cartography bro i used to make good maps of fictional states at early highschool years

[silver nacelle]

It does. But it mostly uses either sharp dart or air stall with flea brew + plasmium phial to substitute clawline.

[proven thicket]

Then I'll just use clawline still.

[mental arch]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-25140277

[twilit reef]

Nail 3 here i come babyyyyy

[supple reef]

what nail

[arctic epoch]

heh, now tell them about cloakless Mount Fay

[untold dune]

same i used to have my own original fantasy world i had all mapped out

[proven thicket]

Are u in act three

[twilit reef]

NEEDLE*

[grave night]

So what are people’s setups for the ||Architects crest?|| I’m currently vibing with ||Plasmium vials, cogfly’s, wispfire lanterns, and the injector among a few other tools||

[marble swift]

Team Cherry better give us the lore we lost from the void expansion in Hollow Knight

[surreal elbow]

Revenant sucks ass

[fossil timber]

Hardest act 3 boss is ||Flea Juggle||

[weak ice]

needle

[twilit reef]

No

[languid plaza]

conch

[oak dragon]

Duh duh doo doo do doo bebeboop be bum boo

[supple reef]

i know i was just being an asshole on purpose let me be

[untold dune]

pollip pouch (unless using plasmium)

[worldly umbra]

guys i had a cool dream while i was sleeping today tho (someone please ask me what my dream was about)

[silver nacelle]

Oh, hell naw! Volt vessels pogo using delver's drill is psychopathic behavior.

[weak ice]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-conifer-gif-26376700

[oak dragon]

Best I could do😭

[steep acorn]

hit without ler

[weak ice]

nuh uh

[surreal elbow]

Was radiance there?

[oak dragon]

What was I about

[proven thicket]

No. Flea dodge. That shit is so hard. Juggle requires micro managing but flea dodge requires rng and luci

[marble swift]

Bro is speedrunning getting banned any%

[oak dragon]

It

[timid kite]

YAY CLAWLINE FIRST TIME IN STEEL SOUL YAYYYYYYYYYYY

[glacial kelp]

this truly was a zoteboat

[mental arch]

cornifier and shakra need to link up ‼️‼️

[steep acorn]

🤣🤣

[oak dragon]

I remember you idk from when

[worldly umbra]

a whole fucking seth game trailer

[polar stag]

but why?

[surreal elbow]

The flea mini games are the worst besides the pogo one

[mental arch]

zoteboat is dlc dont you know

[silver nacelle]

I should really start a steel soul run.

[oak dragon]

Damn

[marble swift]

I dabble in this chat every now and then

[fossil timber]

Respectfully I disagree but dodge does suck

[worldly umbra]

but i can only remember 3 parts 😭

[twilit reef]

Hivesteel Needle :)

[proven thicket]

I mena you could just say a slur or post NSFW in almsot every chat to make it faster if you want to get banned that badly

[oak dragon]

You remember me I won't be offended if no

[untold dune]

i wouldnt mind the flea minigames if they didnt lock a needle upgrade behind them tbh, how did the fleas even get hold of a pale oil

[worldly umbra]

but im gonna draw them starting now

[fossil timber]

Flea bounce is piss easy as a Wanderer main

[steep acorn]

funny skitch sorry

[pallid pine]

Oh lmao im also making a zoteboat map

[weak ice]

https://tenor.com/view/prank-face-beard-black-man-gif-19641147

[mental arch]

hive lore wasnt on my silksong bingo card but I fw it heavy

[oak dragon]

Your pfp always dodges my attacks 😭

[marble swift]

Yeah. I recognize a lot of people who are here

[steep acorn]

woah woah

[arctic epoch]

Well since Arvin is busy, here is the amount of combinations you can get in the game:

Crest
Empty slots count

8,796,095,308 different combinations

[surreal elbow]

Hornet was trained by vespa sooo it makes sense

[proven thicket]

Kill me

[gaunt root]

I wanna fight Shakes but putrified ducts and bile water

[oak dragon]

Yay I always remember most people too for some reason

[mental arch]

that was just speculation until silksong

[marble swift]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-christmas-tree-throw-angry-gif-15936546

[severe fox]

[gaunt root]

no

[prime epoch]

Bro had us in the first half

[fossil timber]

Holeh moleh

[twilit reef]

Where do i get the fucking unraveled key again?

[oak dragon]

Wth

[polar stag]

is she okay wtf?

[weak ice]

hoooooooooooo

[silver nacelle]

Holy hell.

[untold dune]

no there was tons of hints from tc and game files hinting at it before, it didnt come out of nowhere

[proven thicket]

149? Are you on drugs? Cause Jesus Christ

[halcyon elm]

I'm so far in the game almost on act 3 and I'm just confident on fighting this

[marsh spoke]

whiteward, in the long room with the long fellas, there's a secret passage above the vertical passway

[marble swift]

She’s fine

[oak dragon]

Jesus Christ 😭

[surreal elbow]

Everyone theorized that hornet was the daughter of 3 queens anyway

[mental arch]

well we knew she was like a daughter of 3 queens or whatever so we assumed vespa white lady and herrah but didnt have any confirmation on vespa

[twilit reef]

Fr? Damn

[weak ice]

chill down bru

[indigo eagle]

silksong/hk and celeste only indie games that deserve all the glaze frfr (im joking there are like 10 more on this list but)

[silver nacelle]

More like "I will steal your money jar"

[supple reef]

69 on bounce and 56 on juggle i just got addicted to dodge

[lavish grove]

was it in default game?

[oak dragon]

What time is it for u guys for me its 17:14

[severe fox]

Leave for a couple minutes and come back to a weird looking chin on my screen.

[lavish grove]

i would have loved it to farm geo

[oak dragon]

I love celeste

[fiery burrow]

CoF? Yeah

[weak ice]

no can't do i don't leave my house

[proven thicket]

The other two are easier to farm but dodge is hard as shit for staying alive that long.

[arctic epoch]

Celeste gets heavily carried by its mod community 😭

[surreal elbow]

Fellow gachiakuta fan?! No Way

[steep acorn]

bro why 69 exactly

[fiery burrow]

Coral Tower fills the same hole in my heart that CoF did though

[oak dragon]

Chat do I charge yet my phone is now at 3%

[lavish grove]

honestly i dont like celeste

[marble swift]

There’s coral castle but that’s about it

[supple reef]

cause seth's score was 68

[prime epoch]

18:14 for me

[shell yacht]

3 queens was basically retconned when they turned the hive into isolationists and had Vespa talk about refusing to be involved in the plan.
Then they just badly added it back with the red memory

[mental arch]

except cof is 10x more fun

[untold dune]

well imo the best games are the ones with massive modding communities

[weak ice]

u should charge it to about 6-7% and get back on

[brittle surge]

67

[steep acorn]

that make since

[oak dragon]

😭

[pallid pine]

Why does the silksong subreddit bot keep rejecting my map's- Even if i do like my silksong city of steel map it doesen't work bruh 😭 im not banned ik that. Am i just that good at making hk maps it confuses the bot-

[fossil timber]

Should I facetank Karmelita

[fiery burrow]

No because HK enemy combat sucks

[lavish grove]

no we had it was state she learned there how to fight

[marble swift]

Maybe they weren’t always isolated

[surreal elbow]

Like terraria

[supple reef]

and its the funny number

[mental arch]

dont diss the red memory 🥀

[polar stag]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[weak ice]

I get it bro u play cr

[oak dragon]

Alright idc I'm plugging it in now and continuing to yap

[timid kite]

might miner counters

[arctic epoch]

True, Celeste is ran by modders

Strawberry Jam
Spring Collab
GM+4 maps

Fusion collab is an upcoming big collab too lmao, over 100 maps

[untold dune]

silksong subreddit does have a 50 karma requirement (it mightve raised since i last checked idk)

[weak ice]

might miner gets countered by fucking skeletons

[fiery burrow]

Red Memory is... bad. Its a 6 minute unskippable cutscene that's basically just full of exposition and nothingburger lore reveals

[indigo eagle]

Collo of Fools in this game would give the games lowest of lowest of lows ngl

[timid kite]

yea-

[fiery burrow]

Larkin cooked with the OST though

[rain socket]

"LEAVE ME ALONE! AAH"

[steep acorn]

@polar stag is ur final station in felatopia?

[oak dragon]

I really need to get it on PC so I can download mods coz rn I only have it on ps4

[pallid pine]

I have like 4000 after something blew up so i should have enough

[mental arch]

bro didnt play hk

[marble swift]

Grimm’

[untold dune]

ok then idk, weird

[rain socket]

yeah I can confirm, I'm the real fleafather

[weak ice]

so why would u have him ur deck honestly most of the champs aren't allat

[timid kite]

ok no thats just wrong, did you not play hk

[mental arch]

going back to hallownest was fan service at its finest

[polar stag]

yes

[fiery burrow]

Team Cherry said you didn't need to play HK to understand SS

[weak ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586931790208434203/1430536895909330974/caption-27.gif

[steep acorn]

nice so i did it finally

[indigo eagle]

ngl Comparing base Hollow Knight to base Silksong would be too unfair for HK lmao

[supple reef]

how many flea kids do you have

[proven thicket]

It's point is not only for that but it gives a nostalgic factor to hk fans especially with the music. Even the simple things like the wing moulds and the elevator give so much appreciation and love

[fiery burrow]

Did they really just put a 6 minute unskippable cutscene for fanservice

[marble swift]

To understand the story of Silksong not the lore?

[rain socket]

25

[mental arch]

wow you didnt play hk and now you dont understand the true ending and the best sequence in the game wp!

[timid kite]

but its SO MUCH better if you did play hk

[alpine crest]

lost lace clawline only done :D

[oak dragon]

No but it helps

[supple reef]

only?

[shell yacht]

2/3 of it is useless and the other third is badly written

[timid kite]

especially with the shaman reveal in act 3

[mental arch]

considering myself and everyone i know jumped out of their seats when they saw the distant village stag station yeah we loved it

[fiery burrow]

I didn't say I haven't played HK

[alpine crest]

took me surprisingly many tries

[dusk coyote]

do team cherry think their community will eat up any dogshit they put in the game if its "hard"?

[rain socket]

yeah

[alpine crest]

welp, what ll change should I do next?

[supple reef]

here i thought you had 30

[timid kite]

when i saw the hive i exploded

[weak ice]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hollow-knight-silk-issue-silk-issue-gif-15588893687607418966

[fiery burrow]

I played HK I also kept up with the marketing enough to be led to believe that the game wouldn't have blatant key jingling fanservice

[iron spire]

What about lost lace rune rage only

[oak dragon]

I like how this guy has such a chill cat pfp but has the power to delete messages and stuff lol

[arctic epoch]

Red memory being bad might be the fucking coldest take i've ever heard of

[proven thicket]

It's also just a very cool area that has great music and we actually get to see hers before she was sleeping and big, Vespa before she was also big and the white lady before she struck herself into the ground

[supple reef]

too much coffee does this to you

[fiery burrow]

But no TC can't really write and they haven't been able for 7 years so its not surprising ig

[mental arch]

one single sequence that ties togethor hornets past

[oak dragon]

Honestly I like the term silk issue

[fiery burrow]

No its all of Act 3

[alpine crest]

I would rather commit Plasmium Phial Injection with a needle instead of a phial than do that again 😭

[rain socket]

I did not raise huge flea...vog, grishkin and varga and kratt

[marble swift]

You act like they said this as a full encompassing statement for the lore and worldbuilding of Hollow Knight/Silksong

[mental arch]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[timid kite]

then i saw the wingmoulds and it reminded me of a path of pain

[arctic epoch]

Ragebait needs to be believable twin

[rain socket]

I love this gif

[iron spire]

....again?

[mental arch]

im like WE'RE IN THE WHITE PALACE???

[fiery burrow]

....yes. They did. They were talking about story

[alpine crest]

yeah?

[weak ice]

https://tenor.com/view/toro-inoue-toro-cat-i-think-idk-bugburger2-doko-demo-issyou-gif-15676527076649689525

[timid kite]

again.?

[untold dune]

lost lace but with only pollip plasmium synergy

[fiery burrow]

Red Memory is a story sequence its not tucked away lore in a journal entry or whatever

[alpine crest]

yeah I did it as part of my "lost lace with every silk skill" challenge

[oak dragon]

😭

[weak ice]

spoken like a true drug addict

[iron spire]

[alpine crest]

Absolutely fucking hated it
PLEASE for the love of god do not, DO NOT do lost lace rune rage only

[timid kite]

baby hornet red memory was just also cute

[proven thicket]

They leave out things for interpretation and for hidden details. Don't expect a game to spell out the story for you

[steep acorn]

Dexter never dies

[marble swift]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[rain socket]

rune rage is not that bad

[halcyon knoll]

kill all fleas
grub supremacy forever

[alpine crest]

genuinely the worst thing I have ever been through in my many years of gaming

[oak dragon]

Ok my phone is now plugged in chat

[mental arch]

its a lot better than needing to dream nail every enemy and read journal entries to understand the lore like in hk

[surreal elbow]

I wish we got to meet the pale king during the red memory

[supple reef]

wait then who is the father of the giant flea

[timid kite]

damn

[rain socket]

don't kill my children!!

[iron spire]

Fine then what about lost lace with wispfire only!!

[fiery burrow]

I didn't say I didn't like the story because things were unclear. Are you reading my messages or did you just assume I was making a different argument?

[indigo eagle]

team cherry also said all endings are cannon

[mental arch]

I like that he stayed a bit mysterious

[untold dune]

probably not even that hard tbh

[weak ice]

all grubs alrdy dead lil bro pack it up

[rain socket]

idk

[mental arch]

I doubt he cared much about hornet anyway he was probably only concerned about the pure vessel

[alpine crest]

don't have wispfire

[normal token]

I'm honestly surprised we didn't get this, with a much larger focus on combat I thought a repeatable gauntlet would be a lock
I'd love to go all out of gauntelts from various areas with my 100% maxed out kit (Verdania enemies are fun ngl)

[oak dragon]

I can tell you are messaging on ur phone aswell

[halcyon knoll]

they're (by now) grubberflys buddy

[supple reef]

[fiery burrow]

Bro has never ever attempted to piece together the HK story by himself

[lavish grove]

sealed siblings:

[surreal elbow]

Fair

[next badger]

Guys question how can I get steel spine for with crest after 3

[lofty bough]

Yall agree karmellita is top 10 bosses of both games?

[proven thicket]

You said something similar to they haven't known how to write for years so I was including that since that seemed related

[fiery burrow]

HK managed to tell a story without 6 minute unskippable cutscenes full of exposition

[lavish grove]

1 ending of hollow knight:

[prime epoch]

Respectfully, I will count this as ragebait, whether or not it's meant to be ragebait, and ignore it

[untold dune]

same location

[weak ice]

still why would u ever kill those cute fleas

[proven thicket]

Agreeable

[supple reef]

[oak dragon]

Haven't fought her yet ngl

[lavish grove]

they hate it cuz its like dark souls

[fiery burrow]

I did not say they were bad writers because the stories were unclear you just assumed that

[mental arch]

I understand the hk lore better than you do hahaha indirect story telling just isnt great for new audiences

[next badger]

The guys si not here

[surreal elbow]

What are you comparing it to?

[halcyon knoll]

what the FUCK

[coarse leaf]

Real bro I didn't play minecraft I like 3 years

[iron spire]

I can really see why you hate it...

[weak ice]

I would have lost it if they pulled it off again

[untold dune]

they died and you grab it from their corpse

[lofty bough]

You’ll like it, just take it easy

[halcyon knoll]

idk they're annoying i think

[oak dragon]

Queue aria math

[polar stag]

I love how the reaction to fat mooshka is the exact same every time

[timid kite]

???

[fiery burrow]

Please explain what journal entries and dreamnail dialogue are required to understand HK's story then...?

[next badger]

There nothing in the corps..

[iron spire]

FLEAS DONT DO METAMORPHOSIS! WHAT HAS HE DONE!

[indigo eagle]

If you can’t endure the 6 minute “cutscene” that gives alot of cool information on Hornet’s path its on you tbh..

[oak dragon]

Ok cool you seem chill 👍

[untold dune]

🤷

[halcyon knoll]

is it just me or was the lost sinner easy ash 😭

[twilit reef]

Boutta fight unraveled wish me luck

[proven thicket]

I didn't say they were bad either. I said you said they didn't know how to write. The story itself on a basis for both games is simple but it's context and hidden details and more behind everything that makes it more unique

[weak ice]

good for u ig

[dusk coyote]

bro

[surreal elbow]

Lots, like the myla dream dialogue, white lady, radiance, godseeker, etc etc

[alpine crest]

yeah it only had about a 20% hit rate

[arctic epoch]

I ain't gonna lie

Who the fuck saw White Palace and did not jump from their seat and scream out of pure joy?

[marble swift]

WARNING! This image contains huge spoilers for Silksong and the ramifications for the future of this series are insane. Reveal at your own risk

[fiery burrow]

SS hardly has hidden details like HK did, unfortunately. Needolin dialogue is all a complete nothingburger except for like the Snail Shamans

[dusk coyote]

I LOVE BEING STUNNED FOR 2 MASKS
ID DEFINETELY NOT RATHER JUST TAKE THEM OUTRIGHT

[halcyon knoll]

no like im genuinely asking
ive never heard people talking bout the sinner's difficulty

[oak dragon]

It wasn't that hard but I loved the fight and how it flowed

[halcyon knoll]

[indigo eagle]

Red Memory is sick

[mental arch]

you dream nail false champion and realize its a scared grub protecting its kin you dream nail soul tyrant you realize he had a deal with the pale king to further his soul research. I havent played hk in years so I don't remember everything but a lot of bosses make more sense after you dream nail them or read their hunter codex

[dusk coyote]

WHY DOES THE 1 + 1 MASK STUN EXIST BLYAT SUKA

[halcyon knoll]

something that steel soul mode players canNOT do

[fiery burrow]

White Lady's dreamnail dialogue has nothing to do with the lore, we learn about Radiance from places other than Myla's dreamnail dialogue, Radiance's dreamnail dialogue is a complete nothingburger, Godseeker doesn't really have any interesting dreamnail dialogue either

[oak dragon]

I'm not there yet when is it

[marsh spoke]

the pale king

[marble swift]

Alas 😔

[fiery burrow]

None of these are relevant to the core story

[untold dune]

i was so dissapointed that this didnt actually heal you like the rest of the spa water does

[indigo eagle]

You gotta get all 3 hearts in Act 3. Do not spoil yourself with it by being on this channel please

[steep acorn]

huh? she's just taking a shower (with her dress 🤨)

[mental arch]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[fiery burrow]

His dreamnail dialogue is just his catchphrase

And he doesn't have an entry

[arctic epoch]

I'm sorry but what's the point of this arguement again?

[marsh spoke]

he does not

[marble swift]

This is the one that didn’t get the joke. Everybody point at laugh at them

[fiery burrow]

Insulting red memory 🗣️

[oak dragon]

Yeah any time people show videos of it and stuff I try to avoid it coz it looks like a moment I need to experience

[arctic epoch]

For what?

[prime epoch]

If it's an honest opinion I'll respect it despite how much I disagree but I'll still consider it as ragebait just to avoid any form of disrespect coming from me

[twilit reef]

I died :(

[steep acorn]

exactly

[mental arch]

not to mention in hk you have to go thru the hardest parkor sequence in the game to properly understand why the pure vessel failed and why hallownest was doomed

[hollow wharf]

Oh my god is this real I’m shaking

[marsh spoke]

dont think hunter's journal has any super important lore gatekept the other guy LIED

[fiery burrow]

Being a 6 minute unskippable cutscene full of fanservice and exposition

[surreal elbow]

White lady's dream dialogue shows us how regretful she is of creating the vessels, the radiance literally confirms that the void has been her enemy for eons, saying these dialogues have nothing to do with the lore is blatantly idiotic

[indigo eagle]

You’ll get like shitton of spoilers by being on this channel

[proven thicket]

The radiance is expressing their hate and disdain for you and the void. The white lady knows your in her mind and is saying you have the power to cut down the dreamers, the god seeker only cares about finding and atuning to God's not much else so there would be very few thoughts besides that other than talking about you and the gods they observe

[polar stag]

does this sprite of naked Hornet holding her cloak ever actually appear in the game anywhere?

[fiery burrow]

Wow none of these are even remotely true

[supple reef]

where were you. at what part?

[steep acorn]

i get it I just disconnected it 🙂

[tidal hearth]

True ending on a phone lol

[mental arch]

ya i didnt join until I beat the game

[twilit reef]

Unraveled

[dusk coyote]

I LOVE BEING STUNNED FOR 2 MASKS
I LOVE BEING STUNNED FOR 2 MASKS
I LOVE BEING STUNNED FOR 2 MASKS

[proven thicket]

If you don't want spoilers then you should leave this since it's just discussion about everything

[fiery burrow]

White Lady's dreamnail dialogue has nothing to do with the regret for her vessels lol she just notes you can read her mind

[oak dragon]

Yeah I already have been spoiled from my yt feed that's just the one thing I avoid

[indigo eagle]

oof

[novel wyvern]

yep, right after seamstress upgrades her cloak

[fiery burrow]

And extrapolating Radiance saying "Ancient enemy" to her referring to the void specifically is baseless fanon

[prime epoch]

Skill issue

[oak dragon]

I know like 90% of it already from my yt feed it's just that one thing I avoid

[hollow wharf]

I wish unraveled was better

[steep acorn]

I have a theory that Hornet is Batman

[fallen prairie]

Guys do you think Bailador and The Unravelled were brothers?

[fiery burrow]

OK but you don't need any of this to piece together the story

[surreal elbow]

Who else would she be referring to?

[languid barn]

what are good tools to use on the witch crest?

[tidal hearth]

Full play through on a phone

[pliant mauve]

Who are you talking to my guy

[weak ice]

skill issue

[oak dragon]

Yeah it just felt like a big fatass was trying to run me over😭

[proven thicket]

She says openly she regrets her decision. She doesn't need drema nail dialogue about her regret if she says she already has done those things to herself in order to stop her form making more

[marsh spoke]

its not baseless (myla dreamnail dialogue does refer to the vessel as "the empty one" meaning she does have an idea of what they are)

[fiery burrow]

The vessels or the Pale King specifically who are actually confirmed to have been in conflict with her unlike the void

[alpine crest]

claw mirror & multibinder are a must-have
injector band is really great
after that it's like longclaw or snitch pick

[dusk coyote]

]

[mental arch]

maybe theyre the only 2 conductors we know of

[fiery burrow]

OK so its not dreamnail dialogue thus is irrelevant

[alpine crest]

we also know about Conductor Mizallo or whatever his name is

[oblique beacon]

New silk skill

[fiery burrow]

The claim was that you need to dreamnail NPCs and read journal entries to understand HK's lore which is false

[surreal elbow]

Why would the vessels be her "ancient enemy" when they haven't even been around for as long as her?

[prime epoch]

Multibinder, claw mirrors, injector band, warding bell

[fiery burrow]

She doesn't say "Enemy older than me" she says "Ancient enemy" which means "Old enemy"

[mental arch]

Pretty sure he is the unraveled the surgery failed and all the husks took his form

[languid barn]

lmao i was already using mirror, multibinder, long claw, and injector, thanks anyways tho haha

[marsh spoke]

i mean you need to dreamnail the hollow knight to understand what's causing the infection don't you

[alpine crest]

oh true

We also have the conductor Romeo who wrote the folley of pharloom and is (presumably him) found dead in the blasted steps

[proven thicket]

You don't need any dialogue at all if you want to play the game or peice the story together besides being forced to talk to some NPCs for quests. The game you can say boils down to you killing these guys to open a door, defeating the final boss and taking his place if you really want it like that

[fiery burrow]

Well THK is a fringe case where the game very overtly indicates you need to dreamnail it with essence particles

[polar stag]

Romino lol. Not Romeo

[alpine crest]

ah, makes sense

[fiery burrow]

Red Memory is mandatory for true ending and is a blatant case of tell don't show (Like all of Act 3)

[languid barn]

what about wanderer tho? rn im using injector band, long claw, magnetite dice, silkspeed anklets, and weighted belt, anything i should change?

[marsh spoke]

true... but what about Dead Kingsmould in the ancient basin?

[fiery burrow]

Sure

[dusk coyote]

BARBED BRACELET SELF DAMAGE: 2X
BARBED BRACELET ENEMY DAMAGE: LIKE 1.2X
TEAM SHARTY
EXPLAIN

[prime epoch]

I thought he was the old penitent

[alpine crest]

*1.25

[drowsy hazel]

I got 4,199,115,384.

[fossil timber]

I gave the bell eater lethal tetanus poisoning

[alpine crest]

maybe he is, maybe he isn't

if he is, then we know of 4 conductors

[arctic epoch]

Half of mine, weird, you've got a graph?

[dusk coyote]

WOW
AMAZING
MASSIVE CHANGE
HUMONGOUS TURN OF EVENTS

[marsh spoke]

im obviously being intentionally obtuse though, you dont need to dreamnail any side characters to understand the main story of hk or read any journal entries

[prime epoch]

Skill issue

[normal tulip]

I LOVE WITCH CREST

[alpine crest]

to be fair, it's really good to have vs fun bosses since it forces you to fully master their moveset to win

[novel wyvern]

conductor mizello's surgery failed and he was thrown into the pit with all the other silk corpses/experiments that failed

[proven thicket]

It doesn't tell you everything. We see the state of how things were before and their cause. Karmetias tribe, the Khan's kingdom, verdanias forest and nyleth controlling her lands for sage passage. Nothing is said out loud openly for you to immediately tell. It's environmental story telling.

[supple reef]

[fiery burrow]

In terms of forced dialogue in act three you need to talk to the snail shamans twice ballow twice and lace twice in addition to an unskippable 6 minute cutscene and an unskippable minute cutscene, which is... annoying on a repeat playthrough especially once I stopped remotely caring about the story

[steep acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/midnight-the-cat-stopped-working-midnight-the-cat-cat-cat-meme-funny-cat-gif-81113296414293415

[twilit reef]

fuck my gay life

[supple reef]

where exactly

[marble swift]

I will admit, the story in act 3 isn’t as good as I wish it was. It’s good don’t get me wrong, but isn’t like masterpiece level writing

[fiery burrow]

Notice how these are... not in Red Memory

[balmy quiver]

Whiteward

[drowsy hazel]

My conditions:
Act 3
Different tool variants cannot be used at once
Hunter is fully upgraded and full Vesticrest is unlocked
No Snare Setter
No Cloakless
No Cursed

[arctic epoch]

so its annoying that you have to play the game when you play the game again?

[fiery burrow]

Also all the Old Heart lore got rewritten and its frankly impressive how irrelevant and garbage they are to the main story

[supple reef]

not what i was asking but ok

[steep acorn]

wait high halls arena 2???

[novel wyvern]

i REALLY hope that in the pantheons we get conductor mizello himself instead of fucking unravelled

[timid tide]

yea

[dusk coyote]

WHY DOES CORAL TOWER NOT SET YOUR TOOLS TO FULL AT EVERY ENTRANCE
WHY
JUST WHY
WHAT DIMENSION OF GAMEPLAY DOES THIS ADD TO THE EXPERIENCE

[fiery burrow]

HK is not a visual novel. I play for the gameplay not the story

[marble swift]

What’s old heart? Maybe I’m just forgetting some name but what is it?

[marsh spoke]

old hearts are all the heart bosses

[fallen prairie]

It would be cool if there was a quest where if you gave 50 silk string's total to Bailador he would reward you with something

[proven thicket]

Then why critique the story if you really only play for the game

[fiery burrow]

Karmelita Nyleth Green Prince and Khaan

[marble swift]

Ohhh

[normal tulip]

if you have full tools when you're out of the memory, then you'll have full tools while in

[lofty hedge]

Somebody pls help me find every craftmetal

[arctic epoch]

Here's my, left is non-empty slot while right has empty slots counted

[proven thicket]

The old hearts are one of the most important parts of the game when it comes to the past of pharloom and their respective area s

[prime epoch]

If you were trying to get through the game as fast as you could, no. If not, yeah

[dusk coyote]

yeah i figured but why did i have to go farm for that
Why wont it just set to full every entrance and return to previous value when exit

[split flume]

Hello Mr Beast

[oak dragon]

I'm back chat is anyone I was talking to before still here

[fiery burrow]

It interferes with gameplay also I did care for the story until I realized it was bad in Act 2

[marble swift]

Old hearts are cool but could have been done better. I wish there was more buildup to each boss. Kahn’s was the only good one but it was too easy

[novel wyvern]

the old hearts are irrelevant to the story outside of act 3 because they were FORGOTTEN dumbass, theyre SUPPOSED to be irrelevant

[surreal elbow]

How is it bad?

[normal tulip]

shit game 0/10 team cherry FIX THIS
-# /j

[marsh spoke]

EVERYONE got annihilated

[balmy quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/invisigal-dispatch-invisigal-toe-lover-dispatch-game-invisigal-dispatch-gif-2336541859259700212

[oak dragon]

Damn 😔

[supple reef]

you mr architect can you remake this ruined tool i found in a place filled with shit?

[fringe pollen]

I have surpassed 110 hours in-game... At 98% lol. I am NOT going for steel soul and def not 5/30 hour completion acheivements.

[surreal elbow]

Best girl

[fiery burrow]

In Act 2? The haunting is basically a blatant copy of The Infection

[supple reef]

[balmy quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/sherma-silksong-absolute-cinema-gif-774649724514166125

[fiery burrow]

This universe only has like 5 things

[marble swift]

5 hour steel soul is scaring me

[marsh spoke]

yeah not gonna lie i was expecting the haunting to be more than infection 2

[novel wyvern]

its not but ok

[oak dragon]

I hate how the haunting makes me think of the fricking roaring

[proven thicket]

Of course for that factor but its cause is different, it's effect us different, and it's reason isn't the same as before

[fringe pollen]

I'll prob breach 120 hours, as I still have 4 bellhome decorations unaccounted for.

[arctic epoch]

I'm starting to realize... comparison really is the thief of joy

[drowsy hazel]

How did you find the numbers?

[hollow wharf]

The old hearts are basically quests that let you learn about what Pharloom was like before the citadel basically destroyed it, you get to learn about the old rulers and the kingdoms they had

[fiery burrow]

Back in my day #ss-disc was like "No man surely Puppetmaster higher being can't be the ENTIRE thing behind the haunting"

[drowsy hazel]

Because none of it matches mine.

[prime epoch]

Yeah but were you exploring and doing quests or only progressing through the main story?

[worldly umbra]

guys jsut finished drawing a part of my seth game trailer that i dreamt of last night

[surreal elbow]

Is that your only gripe with the story orrrr?

[marble swift]

With Hollow Knight you can easily beat it in 2 hours if you route it well enough, but Pharloom is just so much bigger in terms of where you need to go

[sharp egret]

Are you silksong because the hollow knight or because are you the hollow knight because of silksong

[twilit reef]

No worse feeling than missing a witch bind or getting interrupted

[fiery burrow]

No but its what made me stop caring about the story

[proven thicket]

Hess saying the story is irrelevant.

[dusk coyote]

it doesnt have to be a game breaker to be annoying and if its annoying and does nothing for the game then WHY HAVE IT

[arctic epoch]

nCm

n: max amount
m: usable amount

C = n! / 2.n!

[prime epoch]

Then yeah, pretty good

[oak dragon]

Yooo you back

[marsh spoke]

do you have any more gripes? im actually interested to hear them ngl

[glacial kelp]

hollow knight but the mcs get progressively larger

[surreal elbow]

He must've been playing with his eyes closed than

[weak ice]

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-know-cat-cat-meme-those-who-gif-2719346752565069035

[marble swift]

I know, but they still could have been done better

[alpine crest]

what ll challenge should I do next

[fringe pollen]

I did the math. If I get 120 hours out of this game, at $20, that's me paying $0.16 per hour of game time lol. Pretty damn good deal!

[worldly umbra]

yes the first drawing out of the 3

[marble swift]

Silksong should have had an extra year in the oven

[proven thicket]

Ok closer to he doesn't care about it at all and is saying it's bad

[worldly umbra]

wanna know whats happening here?

[arctic epoch]

I will start giving critics in on the discussion once the person stop comparing Silksong to Hollow Knight

[oak dragon]

Sure

[tired flume]

Guys is it a hot take that these days i might have mh wilds>silksong?
This is because silksong has gotten really hard, stuck on coral gauntlet and karmelita with shining needle

[marble swift]

Just one more year would have done wonders for Silksong

[fringe pollen]

Wishing I would have bought the soundtrack bundle.

[drowsy hazel]

First off, even without looking at the numbers, your one is incomplete since you didn't consider all the tools.

[proven thicket]

We say that but the hk community were basically dying for wanting to play this game

[surreal elbow]

The haunting and infection may seem to have similar effects but they happen for completely different reasons

[glacial kelp]

what the hell is 2.n!

[arctic epoch]

you sure? doesn't that make the number even larger?

[ocean nova]

Guys what do you think?
What would hornet want for christmas?

[surreal elbow]

Why?

[alpine crest]

something big and fluffy

[arctic epoch]

2 times n!

[supple reef]

sherma's playlist

[glacial kelp]

do you not use *

[proven thicket]

It's your opinion in this case. Mh wilds is a good game even with its flaws. I personally like silk song more but I understand why you would like that game more. It's your opinion on this so it's ok

[oak dragon]

Yeah

[prime epoch]

A pet flea

[ocean nova]

So true, but she got the whole flock so another one

[drowsy hazel]

Well yes, but what's with your combination formula? Isn't it "n!/r!(n-r)!"?

[worldly umbra]

so seth is flinging his needle with string to a vinecrawler, and hes doing dmg to it while bringing it closer to him. hes climbing this twisted and haunted grey tree that hes climbing to progress, and thats it cant think of anything else

[coarse leaf]

Guys I’m stuck in the flea festival😭

[ocean nova]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-fleas-hollow-knight-hornet-hollow-knight-homies-gif-7976644766520327046

[arctic epoch]

huh- >->
holdon, i might be dumb, i learned statistics last year

[oak dragon]

Peak so far lol

[prime epoch]

The extinction of the flies

[supple reef]

like before seth or after seth?

[coarse leaf]

Before

[marble swift]

The hype of Silksong died like 2 years ago. The only thing that kept us going was the potential leaks and those definitely would have kept coming. Look how many people stopped caring and came rushing back when it finally did get released. One extra year wouldn’t have been unreasonable

[ocean nova]

Wha-

[drowsy hazel]

I didn't even use the formula, I used my scientific calculator.

[glacial kelp]

the way to choose r elements out of a n list is n!/r!(n-r)! yes

[supple reef]

not too hard tbh. just keep trying and it will happen eventually

[arctic epoch]

😭 brother, oh well, yours is probably true-er

[brittle surge]

Does anyone know the name of this enemy somewhere around or in the choral chambers (I never check the hunter’s journal thing) 😢

[coarse leaf]

Thank you thank you

[prime epoch]

Oh you sweet summer child

[marsh spoke]

minister

[celest cobalt]

E

[arctic epoch]

😭 i'm going back to geometry

[supple reef]

unless you want specific ways to make it easier

[limpid bramble]

Guys where do i find the kidnapping flies??

[alpine crest]

what lost lace challenge should I do next?

[surreal elbow]

Again why do you think it needed an extra year? What part of the game seems unfinished or unpolished? Besides coral tower

[limpid bramble]

Im in that one section of deep docks but the fly won't appear

[sharp egret]

I am going to post something irrelevant

[brittle surge]

YES TY

[dusk coyote]

WOW MAN ALL THE ENEMIES IN THIS GAME HAVE SUCH A HUGE DOSE OF HYPER ARMOR
I WISH I HAD AT LEAST A BIT OF IT

[terse stone]

I’d call that dormant hype tbh, if everyone came rushing in then everyone was silently excited for it

[sharp egret]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbzk2N2czbzlpY2JvNmtobXc1OTFpd2RyNTV6bjJyam84cjRwb3VhNCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/9Zauf4U9USRxyOO48R/giphy.gif

[coarse leaf]

I’ll jus keep trying I do that with all the bosses

[prime epoch]

Skill issue

[limpid bramble]

I keep going to the bench and back where ghe fly should appear but it's not there for sone reasons

[supple reef]

for juggle don't jump hit and like use wanderer crest for the other two get good

[limpid bramble]

I really need to get to the slab

[indigo eagle]

2023-2024 was the dark ages for silksong news and hype

[leaden delta]

no I do agree ss maybe needed an extra year

[proven thicket]

I wanted it and many others also did. I would say the active all over the place hype was gone but I believe many people prayed that on February when it's anniversary and Nintendo directs came we prayed for it. Just not openly out loud. We had literal clown costumes of the knight in order to keep joke about our wait and pain

[drowsy hazel]

Also it doesn't seem like you considered the variants for Curveclaw, Silkshot, Druid's Eye, Claw Mirror, and Dead Bug's Purse. Not to mention extra tools like Needle Phial.

[proven thicket]

It really was

[limpid bramble]

GUYS WHERE ARE THE KIDNAPPING FLIES???

[coarse leaf]

Why no jump hit

[indigo eagle]

2025 april we’re so back

[supple reef]

also keep track of which flea falls first

[oak dragon]

Hi again

[marble swift]

Some things would not have been cut, they could have built better buildups for the old hearts bosses, Kahn’s was the only good one imo, and who knows what else would have been added in that time

[cyan pewter]

wsg chat

[prime epoch]

Try Greymoor I think?

[supple reef]

cause the flea falls faster the higher it gets

[oak dragon]

Wsg

[arctic epoch]

lowkey wanna redo my maths, but i'm drained from my mid-terms

[coarse leaf]

Ohhhhhh

[marble swift]

Silksong is a great game, but one extra year would have made it even better

[fiery burrow]

The Old Heart quest got super super rewritten in development

Seth changed from a powerful warrior guarding a secret that was supernaturally enhanced by an entity known as "The Voice" but that all got axed. Now his job is to kill everyone trying to enter a church because ??? and he's super strong because ??? and he gets amnesia because ???

Khaan and Karmelita barely have any lore at all. From a story perspective you could remove them and their absence wouldn't really be felt

Hornet has basically no reason to kill Green Prince until they ADDED A PATCH POST RELEASE to make it so that taking the heart regrows Verdania plantlife but.... that conflicts with Hornet's dialogue with Gilly saying the hearts sustain the ecosystems around them.
As a side effect of that, killing Karmelita as the 4th Heart means Hornet basically kills an ecosystem for no reason at all (There's unique dialogue for this where Hornet goes "It is a difficult thing to explain simply... A test was needed")

I don't think I would really care nearly as much if Team Cherry didn't advertise Silksong as having an alive and vibrant kingdom that you'd restore hope to (Hello Ruined Bonebottom!) and if they didn't advertise the story as being more or less disconnected from HK (Hello Act 3!)

[surreal elbow]

I'll agree on the buildup part but karmelita wasn't a good old heart boss?

[oak dragon]

Omg you are the warlax

[indigo eagle]

what parts you didn’t like

[marble swift]

Holy. Doesn’t this go in #sk-lore ?

[cyan pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[sharp egret]

I am going to do something stupid
If hornet is dante
Lace is vergil
Who is Nero

[coarse leaf]

Dw they are coming in the dlc

[cyan pewter]

Frey

[supple reef]

[prime epoch]

Greymoor, next to the bell station

[oak dragon]

Fair

[dusk coyote]

THE AI FOR THESE FLYING ENEMIES HAS THE BIGGEST BALLS OF EVERYTHING IN THIS GAME

[oak dragon]

I respect your dedication

[sharp egret]

In sk
Not hk

[drowsy hazel]

I'm having mid-terms rn too, my calculations might also be kinda rusty. I first learned permutations and combinations in like 9th grade, like 3-4 years ago.

[surreal elbow]

Phantom ig?

[indigo eagle]

I think the game is far from perfect atleast more flawed than HK but a good improvement from Hollow Knight’s visuals, gameplay n world

[supple reef]

idk haven't played or watched devil may cry

[fiery burrow]

Also Last Judge has no lore and that pmo I was so excited for Last Judge 😔 (But the fight is fun)

[cyan pewter]

i think i would have ate a brick if i had to wait another year

[marble swift]

No I didn’t say they were bad bosses. Nyleth could have used an extra phase at least though

[sharp egret]

Hmmmm probably

[oak dragon]

😭

Poor brick

[surreal elbow]

It does everything better than hollow knight whilst having more flaws than the first game

[cyan pewter]

[twin quest]

[onyx plinth]

Is getting all mementos necessary for 100%?

[hollow wharf]

I absolutely agree, it feels like they tried to cram in more lore but didn’t have enough time to

[silver nacelle]

No.

[dusk coyote]

good game, dogshit moment to moment gameplay

[indigo eagle]

I saw alot of complaints about shell shards being in the game, the currency is a bit meh but if we removed it, the Architect Crest would be way too overpowered than it already is, i think making it exclusive to Architect would be a better idea

[sharp egret]

I think invisigal would probably like dante

[surreal elbow]

Ill agree on that

[prime epoch]

Don't think so

[cyan pewter]

but lowkey i think the red bricks would taste better then the grey ones, red just got more spice flavor

[arctic epoch]

i smell a silk issue

[marsh spoke]

yeah i have to agree with a lot here
as cool as i find the citadel and the sands of karak and all of that i genuinely would've rather seen a living kingdom as well. act 3 lore is kind of very sloppy as well

[oak dragon]

Wth just happened to sk discussion for like 5 secs

[cyan pewter]

brick consumption

[supple reef]

idk she is into mecha man. dante doesn't sounds close to mechaman tbh

[onyx plinth]

Does beating Seth’s scores give anything besides the memento?

[sharp egret]

Well tbh Dante still a virgin with 2 woman on side to pay rent money by killing demons

[indigo eagle]

Exploration is often less rewarding yeah

[marble swift]

And also they should have added some form of Colo of fools like arena. All things that could have been added with one extra year, js sayin

[sharp egret]

Personality

[cyan pewter]

personal pride

[fiery burrow]

No but it is fun af

[surreal elbow]

Shards have no use as a currency in the game and are just counter-intuitive. It really just discourages you from using tools in the first place tbh

[indigo eagle]

what would you rate the game in its current state, i’d rate it 9/10

[hollow wharf]

I like the idea of shell shards, I just don’t understand the pricing of the tools

[arctic epoch]

sands of karak and blasted steps is coral tower's future i'm not wrong

[sharp egret]

Both have that wacky AHH pizza feels

[indigo eagle]

It would be a good counterpoint to Architect; not for offensive tools though for other crests

[supple reef]

as friends maybe. but like she isn't that close to anyone. she literally gets boost by doing solo missions

[marsh spoke]

yeah i know
i like blasted steps and love sands of karak but i would 100% rather seen coral gorge instead

[sharp egret]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dmc-devil-may-cry-dmc3-dante-dmc-gif-14429534993008741040

[indigo eagle]

i think locking act 3 behind all town wishes isn’t that of a good choice either

[arctic epoch]

the assets are there, the ideas are planted

Now we await a DLC

[surreal elbow]

I get having tools running out, that's good balancing but having to recharge those tools with another currency is just pointless

[dusk coyote]

dont say that
theyll call it a silk issue
grind the tedium and praise it

[cyan pewter]

agreed but thb i think i had everything the first time i did act 3 so i didt even know it was a requirment

[arctic epoch]

erm, actually, it's 17 points of miniquests

[sharp egret]

A crossover sound ridiculous

[marble swift]

9/10 for me too. Oh also the story in act 3 could have been a bit more refined. It’s not exactly masterclass writing to go on a fetch quest for “things” to get other thing.

Guys I still love the story of Silksong, it’s PEAK! But I do have my critiques

[oak dragon]

Peak game

[surreal elbow]

I feel it was since doing all the town quests really shows that hornet cared for this kingdom, she cares enough to not let it die

[fallen plaza]

i was going through my old art and found ts, how i think a mage hornet will look like

[cyan pewter]

prob 9.5

[indigo eagle]

Silksong is basically higher highs, lowest of lows, it depends if those higher highs make up to the lowest lows

[oak dragon]

SICK

[prime epoch]

Weeell it's not ALL quests...

Insert flashback of the voided savage beastfly

[arctic epoch]

i can't really think of a bad lows tho >->

[fallen plaza]

i doubt its lows are THAT bad

[surreal elbow]

Your tolerance level really comes into play while playing silksong honestly

[torn herald]

Just started silksong and I have 2 questions:
Where the hell is my vertical pogo and my i-frames??

[supple reef]

9/10 for me too there are a few things i find annoying but overall great game

[indigo eagle]

if team cherry takes the current Criticism regarding the game to polish it in the feature it would be a 10/10 and they are doing alot of quality of life tweaks already

[marsh spoke]

i think gameplay wise silksong beats hollow knight because i like the movement more but overall hollow knight for me beats it because the story and atmosphere of hk feels awesome and complete. silksong for me honestly feels like it's missing something (probably coral gorge ngl)

[fallen plaza]

thanks man, i also did a rogue one

[oak dragon]

Damn bro u actually so talented man :)

[supple reef]

fastest bug alive

[torn herald]

I might not be built for this game vro my entire gameplay revolves around pogoing and damage tanking 🌾🌾

[fiery burrow]

Silksong has infinitely better combat and art direction I'll give it that

[prime epoch]

That fight was fun for me but it wasn't for a lot of people

[indigo eagle]

Silksong gameplay is WAY better imo

[arctic epoch]

play the game, twin, you'll find your besties soon

[supple reef]

true

[crisp heron]

does anybody know any way to stop freezing in ||my home?|| I've tried ||radiators and hot showers|| but they don't really work

[fallen plaza]

DISPATCH MENTION im definitely buying the game the moment i get the moneh

[surreal elbow]

Silksong also has better bosses

[light isle]

Anyways Deltarune and Silksong are at the same level of peak

[cinder snow]

what actually gives % in silksong? just curious

[fiery burrow]

I think Silk and Soul kinda kills my motivation to play the game though. I think progression in Metroidvanias should be gated through abilities and map design and not quests

[fallen plaza]

❤️

[indigo eagle]

Crest System beats Charm System in everyway as its more balanced and allows unique builds compared to Hollow Knights passive buff system with no depth really

[light isle]

Invisigal my beloved

[supple reef]

[arctic epoch]

Probably a speck of dust from Ass Jim

[torn herald]

I heard later on in the game EVERYTHING deals double damage, I don't think tanking will ever be an option 🌾

[drowsy hazel]

Items and abilities.

[light isle]

INVISIGALLLLLL

[arctic epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/ss-silksong-hollow-knight-hk-beast-gif-7167947808925894620

[supple reef]

ep 5 drops morrow completed everything till ep4

[indigo eagle]

There will be frustrating moments, but it’s all worth it in the end, just try to continue atleast

[dusk coyote]

why do i need to lose all my silk for a misheal
is it really SUCH a mistake to punish it THAT badly?

[light isle]

Please tell me you didnt fire Sonar

[torn herald]

Idk what a beast crest is nor how to get it but I WILL find it, and I WILL use it

[marsh spoke]

i agree

[vital spoke]

any1 have a good build for act 1

[arctic epoch]

I never really found any issues with the quest system, i pick them up as i progress through the game and often revisit place to do my other quests when i'm fed up with bosses or challenges

[manic knoll]

yea no im cooked

[light isle]

You can heal yourself only when you attack others

[supple reef]

well i did at first but then i rewinded and fired coupe for achivement also firing sonar made the game harder for me

[prime epoch]

Once again, skill issue my friend

[indigo eagle]

act 3 could use more quality of life tweaks and some polishing but the ending is so peak so idm

[dusk coyote]

its ASS game design

[light isle]

Things really took a moist route huh

[fiery burrow]

I would not consider Act 3 worth it the only exploration involved is an expanded Far Fields

[drowsy hazel]

Any build is good enough for Act 1.

[indigo eagle]

I think healing is fine

[torn herald]

That seems perfect for damage tanking

[prime epoch]

Nuh uh

[edgy creek]

Just entered act 5, how do I escape the flea prison?

[supple reef]

yes the situation was quite critical

[arctic epoch]

yeah.... silk issue

[vital spoke]

im jus saying what should i do for like future likespend memory lockets on

[prime epoch]

Pet the fleas

[light isle]

This really hit the meter

[indigo eagle]

Lost Verdania

[surreal elbow]

Yes the heal is broken lol

[drowsy hazel]

Tbf Verdania and Abyss.

[supple reef]

[twilit reef]

I do not like unraveled.

[edgy creek]

The guards oneshot me

[fiery burrow]

Abyss is a linear sequence Verdania is a dream sequence with nothing in it

[indigo eagle]

Act 3 is like end game thing, not something huge as act1-2 tho

[light isle]

Maybe like a septic eye

[tired flume]

Because he is to hard?
Havent fought him yet

[drowsy hazel]

What crests do you have?

[twilit reef]

Just. Whole sections where i cannot even touch the boss.

[surreal elbow]

Bosses are worth it, besides crust king kahn

[dusk coyote]

yuh uh
the healing here can GENUINELY be weaker than HK1
in hk 1 if i lose a heal to damage i lose 1 mask and a third of my soul, here i lose EVERYTHING and often TWO masks which means even if i rack back up the soul i gain ONE mask

[prime epoch]

Pet the guards

[supple reef]

[marsh spoke]

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

[edgy creek]

Why did team cherry make enemies that do 4 damage in act 5

[fallen plaza]

i really wanna play but im a broke boy AAAARGH

[vital spoke]

all 3 u get in act 1

[marsh spoke]

unravelled is GOD awful

[drowsy hazel]

Which one do you like most?

[fiery burrow]

The bosses are fun its just a bit of a letdown in comparison to Act 1 and 2

[vital spoke]

hunter reaper wanderor

[twilit reef]

LIKE I JUST HAVE TO DODGE

[arctic epoch]

hey so the concept of healing is that you're not supposed to get hit

[surreal elbow]

There's no way you're trying to argue that hollow knight's healing is better than silksong's

[vital spoke]

idk tbh

[vague willow]

witch?

[indigo eagle]

To be honest , you heal pretty fast and can heal in the air, if you had the hollow knight heal, you’d be so fucked because its a very fast paced game abd all that time for one mask healing for 1/3 the silk isnt worth it

[final parrot]

Act 2.

[vague willow]

nvm bilewater area is in act 2

[prime epoch]

It's fun

[vital spoke]

hunter reaper wanderor

[edgy creek]

Yeah I do. They just hit me anyways and I die. Im stuck in the first arena brogg

[torn herald]

Get ready because in act 6 everything one shots you, it's basically glass soul but you respawn

[surreal elbow]

Witch is act 1 I'm pretty sure

[drowsy hazel]

Honestly it doesn't even matter that much, there's enough memory lockets for unlocking everything. You can use them on whatever you want.

[worldly umbra]

how do you make it seem you are wielding a katana in 2d im bad at drawing

[vital spoke]

oh fr?

[final parrot]

Nope, You get the twisted child in act 2 bilewater

[edgy creek]

You need act 2 access for twisted bud

[sharp egret]

U don't get twisted bud in act 1

[surreal elbow]

Ohhhhh I forgot the bud is needed

[oak dragon]

Act 2

[rough dawn]

I'm wondering how many percent can you get without progressing into act 2

[supple reef]

twisted bud act 2

[arctic epoch]

Well technically speaking, Witch is Act 1 if you just do Act 1 Mount Fay

[silver nacelle]

4 act 1 crests.
2 act 2 crests.
1 act 3 crest.

[surreal elbow]

There's an act 4?

[indigo eagle]

Healing in silksong is made up by how fast you heal, how its a fast paced game and how you can heal mid air

[twilit reef]

No? You need to go through the vaults to get to bilewater it is literally not accessible iirc

[rough dawn]

Nope

[edgy creek]

No I don't think so. Don't think you can access the area where you get twisted bud witbiut antwrng the citadel

[misty viper]

Guys what do i do to fight second skull tyrant? I've done basically all act 1 wishes and visited both sinners road and blasted steps. What else do i do?

[normal tulip]

I LOVE WITCH CREST SO MUCH

[silver nacelle]

Yeah, but you need to go to Bilewater from vaults to get the twisted bud.

[arctic epoch]

hmmm, can you? I forgot where i even get the screaming child

[indigo eagle]

Bro putrified ducts OST is so good

[ornate aurora]

Reaper tuff

[silver nacelle]

No. There are 4 crests available in act 1.

[surreal elbow]

Bilewater, through whispering vaults

[edgy creek]

Secret path from the vaults

[arctic epoch]

pretty sure there is a way to enter citadel without triggering Act 2

[supple reef]

brother who hurt you

[drowsy hazel]

At least 62%.

[rough dawn]

If u can go from the memoriam to the ducts, can u go from the ducts to the memoriam to go to the vaults?? That would make witch act 1

[normal tulip]

Subaru lil vro

[prime epoch]

Use silkdig to find the reincarnation of Garmond and Zaza underground to help you

[edgy creek]

You get your abilities back after the first arena

[rough dawn]

I'm trying to find a way to get to the citadel without triggering act 2

[drowsy hazel]

You can't go from Ducts to Memorium from the Bilewater entrance.

[ornate aurora]

Son😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[silver nacelle]

There is, but I haven't read too much into it. Is it a glitch? If it is, then it shouldn't be counted.

[twilit reef]

I hate! Hate! Hate! Unraveled

[surreal elbow]

I feel like there are waaaay too many things that are hidden way too well. It's straight up impossible to find some things without looking up a guide

[drowsy hazel]

You can even finish Silksong in Act 1.

[indigo eagle]

Top 5 best areas in Hollow Knight: Silksong

1. Putrified Ducts
2. Wisp Thicket
3. Bilewater
4. Underworks
5. Memorium

[stuck hearth]

not happening

[rough dawn]

I find it fun

[prime epoch]

Silkdig is permalocked on you even when you don't have your abilities

[drowsy hazel]

I like Unravelled.

[surreal elbow]

Bro's a masochist

[stuck hearth]

I actually like the ducts and memorium

[edgy creek]

Oh shit? Thanks. Any specific area to use it?

[drowsy hazel]

Good list.

[normal tulip]

I love! love! love! WITCH CREST

[surreal elbow]

Purtified ducts is worse than bilewater

[drowsy hazel]

Everyone does.

[indigo eagle]

I am mentally sane btw and nobody hurt me

[supple reef]

idk if you are trolling or serious since you have memoriam and bilewater in there cause that's actually good

[edgy creek]

Putrified Ducts has literally only one bad thing

[rough dawn]

If u do the faydown cloak act 1 thing I think u can get to the underworks from the wisp thicket flea

[drowsy hazel]

Kratt.

[supple reef]

oh area i thought you said music mb

[indigo eagle]

I love nobody remembers Wormways. It’s just that unmemorable

[silver nacelle]

Wow. I'm mentally unstable and depressed. I wish I had that sanity.

[edgy creek]

No the spit squits are cancerous

[rough dawn]

People have preferences btw so idk how can that be trolling

[surreal elbow]

Atleast bilewater has good music

[silver nacelle]

It's unwormable.

[surreal elbow]

Purtified ducts has nothing going for it

[indigo eagle]

It has nothing going for it honestly

[supple reef]

i thought they said they like putrified ducts music

[edgy creek]

This isn't really special to Bilewater though when that's just Silksong as a whole

[prime epoch]

Not specifically. Basically use it anywhere in the hallway leading to the first arena or the first arena itself and you'll find Absolute Garmond and Zaza underground.

[indigo eagle]

More nothing burger than The Hive

[drowsy hazel]

No Bell Beasts without Wormways.

[dusk coyote]

Why not have a system in place where the farther you are into the heal when hit, the less silk you use?
That would actually mean that the game can punish you accordingly to the "fuck-up"nes of the heal cuz getting hit right after starting to heal is clearly way worse than 150ms before finishing it
Itd be more fair

[oak dragon]

Hello again

[marsh spoke]

wormways got the short end of the split

[oak dragon]

Hi again

[marsh spoke]

hello

[surreal elbow]

The thing is bilewater's ost is very much memorable, atleast more than purtified duct's ost

[drowsy hazel]

The Hive has Hive Knight. Wormways has Plasmified Zango.

[indigo eagle]

healing is bette in the game imo, since youre supposed to be fast and so is everyone and you can heal midair and heal pretty fast and even faster with injector band

[oak dragon]

Yeah tbf

[edgy creek]

I will agree

[indigo eagle]

Atleast Hive Knight is accounted for 100% completion

[vale whale]

the hive and wormways🤝

[prime epoch]

Nah, I like it

[indigo eagle]

Kingdoms Edge atmosphere i do not fw but it has cool things i guess

[surreal elbow]

I feel like the godseekers shouldnt return and that we should have a new concept for a boss rush game mode

[marsh spoke]

ke atmosphere is fucking awesome

[arctic epoch]

it already is fair, if you get hit while you're healing, that's on you
you have so many options on how and when to heal

[prime epoch]

Let me tell you about warding bell and injector band

[normal token]

Elegy of the deep is right there so yeah

[edgy creek]

- small area on the edge of the world
- occupied entirely by seemingly related enemies
- has a mask shard behind a destroyable wall
- contains a way to regenerate life passively

[silver nacelle]

I can heal with shaman in front of Lost Lace. Healing with Hornet is much easier.

[wanton sky]

Godseekers made sense in the context of Hollow Knight's story because they seeked a god to worship because their god abandoned them, while the Radiance's entire deal is that her followers abandoned her. I think they would probably try to do a similar kind of thing with the new boss rush but in relation to GMS

[normal token]

Area that suffered the most from the great september 2021 changes there was rarely anything interesting with it

[vale whale]

the runback for their respective bosses also suck

[oak dragon]

The only thing I remember it for is the drugs

[surreal elbow]

I would like to see a much harder version of mother silk like absolute radiance. But overall I just don't want it to feel like a reskin of Godhome

[marsh spoke]

except hive knight is an actual fun fight

[normal token]

Unironically I want both a Groal and Khann buff for the godhome-equivelant if they won't include their gauntlets in some way

[worldly umbra]

2nd part of my seth trailer dream

[marsh spoke]

plasmified zango barely counts as a boss and the only thing that makes him keep his status is the title card

[dusk coyote]

why would it be a bad thing for the punish to scale with how MUCH you fucked up

[oak dragon]

This be peak

[drowsy hazel]

Sawtooth Circlet and Injector Band are top 2 blue tools.

[ornate aurora]

He does

[vale whale]

plasmium phial and sharpdart are both accessible in act 2 meaning wormways is absolutely USELESS after act 2

[rapid siren]

hornet is mid

[marsh spoke]

1

[distant topaz]

How would you guys rank Shakra's Fight?

[surreal elbow]

Imagine trying to play silksong with the Knight's healing

[vale whale]

you can miss gland super easily

[oak dragon]

Free refill on drugs in act 3

[worldly umbra]

hes using his needle as a katana, charging it up then releasing a cool blow of dmg and as a platforming thing. after you use it on walls and stuff you stick to the wall like ascendants grip.
hes climbing up a citadel (yes i know) and this is one of the final platforming sections,
and you can see trains for transporting goods, buildings and tents for people to live in, and infastructure of the citadel

[marsh spoke]

act 1. you can get sharpdart in act 1 and never come back to wormways again

[distant topaz]

Me personally, I've fought her a few times and it's pretty cool

[rapid siren]

hornet is weak asf

[vale whale]

doesnt sharpdart need double jump and clawline

[indigo eagle]

Whispering Vaults and High Halls has one of the most goated atmospheres, sad that its a nothing burger area after you get the melodies

[oak dragon]

Absolute Seth 🔥🔥

[vale whale]

high halls has second sentinel tbf

[marsh spoke]

you can very easily get it with silkspeed anklets and a healstall

[normal token]

I'm p sure you can do some silk cocoon + bind stall heal to get to it in act 1

[indigo eagle]

Why is Bilewater so small, I am so disappointed it’s like the best areas in the game

[vale whale]

wow wormways really does fucking suck

[worldly umbra]

i wish i remembered the whole trailer from my dream

[prime epoch]

Seth uses a pin

[marsh spoke]

you dont need a cocoon. ive done it on steel soul

[arctic epoch]

probably because a heal makes up for such a small amount of time in a fight that if you can't even find a spot to heal safely, that's literally on you. We can already heal mid-air, heal 3 masks, way faster than HK, with tools to help it even further

If you can't heal then that's on you

[worldly umbra]

ok pin then PIN

[drowsy hazel]

You don't need cocoon. How would you even die there?

[normal token]

Isn't there an enemy right below the platform or was that act 3 only?

[vale whale]

worms

[marsh spoke]

you only need drifter's cloak + swift step (and needolin to open the door), silkspeed anklets makes it a bit eassier

[indigo eagle]

Bilewater needs to be bigger, its so fucking small its criminal

[prime epoch]

Real

[marsh spoke]

the nearest enemy is a bunch of groms that are too far away to matter

[floral kindle]

The whole map needs to be bilewater

[drowsy hazel]

I've never seen any gromlings there. Regardless, just heal-stalling once is enough.

[unreal sierra]

shes pretty easy dw

[marsh spoke]

it has a plasmid in act 3 but we're not talking about act 3

[vale whale]

imagine if some poor guy thought that the weavenest karn platforming was meant to be done with phial so he accidentally did a skip to it with phial and his cocoon😭😭

[normal token]

I think I'll go for sharpdart act 1 whenever I do a shaman crest run, I've been using it with beast for some bosses and I underestimated sharpdart

[oak dragon]

I hope it comes back to u

[prime epoch]

We need to have a dating option in silksong so Hornet can get sesbian lex with robot lady in the underworks

[drowsy hazel]

Plasmids are plasmified groms btw, do you mean plasmidases?

[final parrot]

That clanka is dead

[marsh spoke]

no i mean a plasmid. im talking about weavenest karn entrance

[unreal sierra]

mods!! this is unacceptable ban that guy immediately!!!!! 🤓

[normal token]

Yeah I'm just misremembering then

[floral kindle]

No thanks I don't want motor oil inside me

[marsh spoke]

i agree

[drowsy hazel]

Is there a plasmid? I don't remember.

[marsh spoke]

yeah in act 3

[final parrot]

These clankers are everywhere in the citadel... Second sentinel is cool tho

[prime epoch]

Twelfth Architect is so cool too

[marsh spoke]

twelfth architect is awesome

[oak dragon]

Have you realised silk song is just America you can do drugs gamble drink and pick from an assortment of guns

[pallid pine]

I've added like alot of lore to make it make sense. It is like 9 paragraphs tho

[twilit reef]

Is that why the citadel is so evil?

[drowsy hazel]

Second Sentinel and Twelfth Architect are both just clankers.

[foggy tapir]

IVE BEEN WAITING TO SEND THIS FOR OH SO LONG

[prime epoch]

Now hear me out. Twelfth Architect x Second Sentinel, robot yuri

[little junco]

The whimsy in his eyes

[marsh spoke]

i agree

[foggy tapir]

pluck them out.

[pallid pine]

Ngl cogworks dancers is my most listened to song. Very emotional

[oak dragon]

Yup

[unreal sierra]

dies in act 3 btw

[empty flume]

Guys where’s Xing? We have orders to carry out

[little junco]

Yea I saw :/

[heady rampart]

rise up ant gang

[empty flume]

Do you want spoilers

[oak dragon]

Not really

[little junco]

Nah this a joke I know he doesn't die
|| Until act 4 ||

[prime epoch]

Now imagine if the Twelfth Architect creates sharp legs to give a new meaning to scissoring

[ebon dragon]

Why isnt this Bench doing his job

[empty flume]

Team Cherry may actually have a riot on their hands if they do that for DLC

[dusk coyote]

i suppose "skill issue" as a way to turn off any criticism will always be a mainstay, sadly...

[lilac ore]

You can fix it

[unreal sierra]

parkour up left

[drowsy hazel]

He dies in Act 3 if you didn't save him in Whiteward in Act 2.

[heady rampart]

only way to save sherma is by enabling sherma mode and deafeating lost sherma

[heady rampart]

up then left break the wall (also you are so cooked with muckmaggots and 1 hp)

[lilac ore]

Unfortunately you are in a dirty possition right now

[empty flume]

What would a Sherma boss fight look like

[oak dragon]

This is probably a joke but does he actually

[prime epoch]

Too far?

[unreal sierra]

its manageable

[little junco]

Heh... You can't fool me... His Whiteward quest is essential for act 3!!!!

[drowsy hazel]

Yes.

[empty flume]

I don’t think so, Balm for the Wounded being done is essential for the Caretaker to give you Silk and Soul

[normal tulip]

shaw*

[oak dragon]

Ok I believe people with no questions asked

[unreal sierra]

yup

[drowsy hazel]

You can get to Act 3 without saving him using mods. The files for his death are in the game, you just can't see it normally.

[twilit reef]

Chat any tips for unraveled?

[oak dragon]

Ohh yeah

[fringe pollen]

Team Cherry sure knows how to make getting beat up enjoyable

[heady rampart]

fari du > 1 billion void tentacles
la tsi > 3 gazillion void projectiles
manet > instakill