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[young vortex]

i get a weirdly high amount of lacenet on my twitter timelines i don't know why

[tulip spire]

Steel soul but cocoon

[velvet marlin]

im gonna try

[light swan]

you disappoint me.

[young vortex]

funnier to call it that

[full halo]

In the slab?

[deft coyote]

the parasite is still alive

[onyx owl]

The abortion machine must've hurt ngl considering Hornet wasn't anesthesized

[pallid veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-silksong-lace-lace-heart-love-lace-love-gif-13329817441135155984

[light swan]

it’s HORCE not lacenet

[deft coyote]

also like i do dislike comparing pregnancy to a parasitic infection

[onyx owl]

Yeah

[atomic lichen]

I never get it on my twitter because I muted the hashtag.

[snow sail]

why does she do that pose so many time

[young vortex]

it's not fucking horse

[old sable]

While I do like to use witch’s crest, I’m more used to using the reaper crest.

[split cape]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-cavalo-spin-meme-flip-gif-17331191

[full halo]

I’m sorry but that pose is hot

[light swan]

it’s not a parasite it’s my beautiful baby

[onyx owl]

It makes sense actually. There are many similiarities with being a host to a parasite or a baby

[outer coral]

what's the shakra hornet tag called??

[pallid veldt]

sprained necks can be a bitch mate

[snow sail]

yes, not horse but horce

[light swan]

shawkra

[atomic lichen]

it's her bitch pose.

[hidden owl]

Am I the only person who does not use any crest other than hunter?

[outer coral]

that's adorable

[pallid veldt]

thts a child🤓

[young vortex]

i've not heard a single person call it horce

[ocean bridge]

i love binding in the face of danger fully expecting to barely heal but instead MURDER

[onyx owl]

They work pretty similar outside of the fact one leaves your body and the other eventually kills you

[snow sail]

now you do

[deft coyote]

you know ive never heard a woman go "you know i want to get a parasitic infection"

[snow sail]

fat birb

[deft coyote]

so i dont think theyre exactly comparable

[full halo]

How old is lace in human years?

[outer coral]

me getting roadside oysters i fear

[young vortex]

i think most people call it shakranet or something like that but i definitely always will call it shawkra

[deft coyote]

ok touche

[light swan]

every time i see this video i get happier

[onyx owl]

It's scientifically not so different outside of the outcomes imho

[atomic lichen]

she's peter pan. super old but never grew up

[hallow panther]

I tried to do that for my first run for the sake of “authenticity”, but Reaper was too easy with platforming and I gave in easily

[deft coyote]

wdym scientifically?

[light swan]

haven’t been talking to the right woman

[deft coyote]

i mean the scientific definition of parasite requires it to be a different species

[hidden owl]

Interesting. I found reaper harder to use for the exact same reason -the pogoing

[light swan]

adoption

[deft coyote]

obviously one can compare the two but they arent the same

[light swan]

wait that makes no sense

[onyx owl]

Logically, they work in similar fashion, both weakens you and both drains your energy, both essentially feeds off the food you eat and the water you drink

[light swan]

interspecial reproduction?

[kind frigate]

i used reaper and hunter only 🥀

[full halo]

Hunter crest moveset is the best for combat prove me wrong

[onyx owl]

Not saying the same at all

[deft coyote]

is property tax a form of parasitic infection

[hidden owl]

HK pogo is HK pogo, Skong pogo is Skong pogo, do not mix the muscle memories

[pallid veldt]

she has a body made out of silk and mind of a child, now idea abt the age

[snow sail]

crestless is superior in every way

[onyx owl]

Legally 👍🏻

[light swan]

to me youre nurturing it for it to grow either way i find that to be enough to be a baby

[pallid veldt]

"and send phantom to keep it there"

[deft coyote]

generally the rule-of-thumb definition of species is one which can reproduce viable offsprign with itself

[pallid veldt]

agreed

[outer coral]

there was some dialogue where the shaman or someone said that lace had been around for as long as if not longer than almost any other creature still alive in the citadel

[light swan]

hunter can’t do this as effectively with its move set

[deft coyote]

horses and donkeys are different species for example because mules are infertile (chromosomes get messed up basically)

[hidden owl]

That’s why I don’t use reaper crest or wanderer crest. Time will tell if I find any crest with a pogo I like

[onyx owl]

Eh having a baby is just natural instinct for all living beings, survival and reproducing is a universal instinct so to speak

[atomic lichen]

what if hornet gave phantom some of her silk?

[wise harbor]

the most cursed screenshot i ever took in a video game

[young vortex]

hornet has canonically had many mates do you think she has kids
if she does she's probably outlived them all

[cursive thunder]

RUN

[pallid veldt]

i mean mixed animals cant reproduce, like ligers and stuff

[light swan]

how did we go from talking about the process of getting the witch crest to the natural instinct of all living beings

[wise harbor]

yeah i died right after

[deft coyote]

no because shes half weaver

[pallid veldt]

RUN

[onyx owl]

It was mentioned

[deft coyote]

thats my point

[young vortex]

is herrah not full weaver and able to have a child

[onyx owl]

I doubt it

I also don't think all her partners were "romantic" ones

[deft coyote]

she only was able to have a child cause it was with a pale being

hornet literally says " i am afflicted by the curse of the weavers which makes conception near impossible"

[atomic lichen]

because she bypassed th curse by mating wih a higher being. Pale King's god powers cancelled out curse

[snow sail]

weavers can't have a child with a weaver to get a 100% weaver child, it has to be with other being cuz all weavers are female

[pallid veldt]

i mean she can always adopt [one theory ive seen go around was hornet being a mother figure for lace]

[outer coral]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollowknight-silksong-hollowknightsilksong-hk-silksong-gif-12622725545869284570

[gleaming path]

years and years of work for this pinnacle of storytelling

[full halo]

chat.. phantom or hornet?

[hallow panther]

Herrah having Hornet was also a bargain she made in exchange for being a dreamer

[deft coyote]

" I know the curse well, Eva, for I am also its victim, and spawn of one who managed to overcome its limits."

[atomic lichen]

both

[young vortex]

yeah and i doubt she'd want kids anyways she doesn't seem the type

[onyx owl]

You could claim quirrel and the knight were partners in the first game since they looked after the others back and fought together against uumuu but they were only friends

[deft coyote]

hornet literally says she is a victim of "curse of their tribe, to conceive a child is a painful, near impossible task."

[onyx owl]

I don't really take this whole partner thing as necessarily romantical

[pallid veldt]

full weaver + full wyrm = hornet [half], and halfs cant reproduce in nature

[young vortex]

i don't much care for either but hornet ig

[full halo]

Hornet can’t have kids???

[deft coyote]

not in hollowknight world

[onyx owl]

Hornet is %0 void %100 waifu

[deft coyote]

we see quarter weavers like widow so you are wrong

[pallid veldt]

?

[gloomy fjord]

Niece being mother figure to an aunt is crazy bro 😭

[atomic lichen]

what i she had a child with a higher being like her mom did. what if she mated with ||Grimm?||

[low pagoda]

hornet is void

[full halo]

I thought the sequel for silksong would be hornets son

[young vortex]

second sentinel forever

[pallid veldt]

quarter?

[young vortex]

insane statement

[deft coyote]

widow

[onyx owl]

Hornet definitely looks more like her father ngl, she doesn't resemble a weaver in any degree

[normal token]

I feel like a sequel to SS will be about an entirely new character

[hollow stratus]

https://fxtwitter.com/NotaMushroom5/status/1977987652444975559

Lace (@NotaMushroom5)

Doing this to hornet tomorrow

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[outer coral]

SHERMA

[snow sail]

nicee

[onyx owl]

You look at her once and immediately see the similarities to the vessels

[pallid veldt]

no i mean idk shes quarter weaver

[young vortex]

should continue the trend and have it be of lace

[surreal cradle]

true ending wooooooo

[hollow stratus]

Seth

[pallid veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-turn-your-back-on-family-you-cant-walk-away-from-family-you-cant-leave-family-behind-you-cant-ignore-family-you-cant-disregard-family-gif-16058425

[surreal cradle]

why was the true ending just grandmother silk no extra difficulty 😭

[hollow stratus]

Hollow knight Seth

[snow sail]

WE'RE GETTING ZOTEBOAT

[gloomy fjord]

💀

[pallid veldt]

y boat?

[young vortex]

what is with that look on lace's facce

[snow sail]

cuz zote

[full halo]

80 hours in, I can now say Silksong is a 9/10

[atomic lichen]

not really. nothing is impossible with fanfiction

[hallow panther]

Zote is probably still reciting his percepts at this timeline

[onyx owl]

I wonder if Hornet knows what happened to PK

[outer coral]

ok ign reviewer

[hollow stratus]

Is it one off cuz of flea juggle

[gloomy fjord]

Nuh uh, 10/10!

[jagged patrol]

95 hours I can say silksong is 2010

[surreal cradle]

wait i thought this gave me act 3

[young vortex]

man i don't even know what happened to pale king

[surreal cradle]

should i have binded instead of needolin

[full halo]

The quests in silksong sucked. I hate the abundance of “grab x item y number of times and bring it” quests

[snow sail]

he got consumed by the void and died

[onyx owl]

I agree, I prefer HK quests tbh

[hollow stratus]

Ye that defo sucks
The hunters mission I wished they did more of

[pallid veldt]

i went back to my first HK playthru, it took me 57hrs[with dlc], silk song took me 73 hours😭

[full halo]

There’s not a single deep quest in the game that was interactive and fun, except maybe the courier one ig

[young vortex]

eternal line of weavers fucking gods

[outer coral]

pale flower >>> courier rations

[normal token]

Silver Bells especially sucked

[surreal cradle]

guys for act 3 do i gotta bind instead of needolin?

[hallow panther]

Far fields savage beastfly:

[hollow stratus]

Oh man silver bells is so stupid

[onyx owl]

I have 96 hours on SS (A fair amount spent in the menu screen) and am still yet to reach the true ending

[snow sail]

you gotta needolin

[hollow stratus]

Why is it randomly placed instead of pre placed

[full halo]

I did that so late in the game lmao like end of act 2

[hollow stratus]

You just wander around that maze till you get lucky

[spring jackal]

whos that 3rd boss in D tier i dont remember fighting it

[jagged patrol]

Other way round

||Needlion instead of bind||

[surreal cradle]

but i did needolin

[outer coral]

my proudest achievement is that i 100%'d silksong on my first playthrough in like 44 hours

[hollow stratus]

I liked that boss actually
Just use rune rage or thread storm lol

[normal token]

And the bells could get stuck in the ceiling so your chances could even be lower

[atomic lichen]

back in 2019 I shipped them together and they had a daughter. still ship it., even though a lot of people don't like it and think I'm crazy

[surreal cradle]

i got a cool cutscene but when i reloaded nothing was different

[pallid veldt]

and no way they dont release dlc for this its gon be insane

[snow sail]

show

[surreal cradle]

show what

[onyx owl]

Mine is I got cursed child before 10 attempts

[snow sail]

your save file

[jagged patrol]

Did you fully check the credits

[normal token]

Go back to your save file, something should be different

[outer coral]

cursed child?

[surreal cradle]

its not :/ just says terminus

should i have watched the entire credits or smth

[onyx owl]

Secret ending that was only done by %11 of players when I got it

[slim sphinx]

Did you do |silk and song questline| ?

[jagged patrol]

Yeah

[outer coral]

like the cursed ending? i got that first try, grandmother is easy

[snow sail]

welp

[surreal cradle]

yea i did

[normal token]

If you closed the game before credits finished rolling then ye

[surreal cradle]

😭

[snow sail]

kill grandma again

[frank badge]

guys whats our opinion on the enemies being harder in act 3

[surreal cradle]

ok im gonna fight my grandma again then

[young vortex]

gms is pretty easy so could be worse

[snow sail]

she's pretty easy to kill

[jagged patrol]

Tbh you credits look nice

[onyx owl]

I had like 5-6 hearts

[pallid veldt]

did it bring u to main menu? ur save file should have abyss all over it

[young vortex]

they made the entire game infected crossroads

[spring jackal]

how dare u skipped credits

[outer coral]

oh yeah that'll donit

[surreal cradle]

no void :/

[frank badge]

i lowkey hate it

[outer coral]

i got all the act 2 hearts by that point

[full halo]

cuz idc who made the game bro they better start makin the next one asap fr

[jagged patrol]

Good way of reflecting how bad pharloom has become imo

[pallid veldt]

then prbly gotta beat up grand ma again

[crimson carbon]

based

[snow sail]

i got all the hearts in my first playthrough somehow

[young vortex]

yeah it's a point of criticism for me but i don't care much

[onyx owl]

And my general playstyle depended on healing on both games (in HK until I started doing radiants)

[alpine inlet]

Does dying to First Sinner kill your steel soul run?

[gleaming path]

act3 void gauntlets are a special place . .

[frank badge]

i agree with this but i feel like the difficulty increase is stupid

[full halo]

like chop chop I ain’t waiting 7 years for another hk game

[normal token]

nope

[delicate lake]

Fight the old woman!

[snow sail]

nope

[onyx owl]

How?

[pallid veldt]

its end game and u r stong nuff should be fine

[hallow panther]

The nearly doubled health is annoying, but their animations during void attacks could be exploited

[outer coral]

i played silksong like an actual hornet, stinging the enemy then dashing away before they could slap back

[young vortex]

i actually don't really have any major points of criticism for silksong just a couple minor ones like that

[onyx owl]

It isn't a dream fight

[surreal cradle]

im gonna fight the old woman again

[frank badge]

bro thats the issue im not fine😭😭

[alpine inlet]

Hmm, so I guess Widow for Act 1 and Lost Lace for Act 3 can be problematic for steel soul?

[pallid veldt]

anti homeless infra getting more creative i see

[final parrot]

Sinners road got me tweakin

[onyx owl]

It's kinda funny to think THE FUCKING BEES WERE THE ONES TO NAME HORNET

[crimson carbon]

bile water

[normal token]

It is a dream fight, your tool fill don't decrease upon death and no silk cocoon spawns

[onyx owl]

LIKE GODDAMN THIS GIRL IS A OPRHAN

[hollow stratus]

Kinda wished they did that only sparingly and killing the void chunks actually permanently removes the void per area
But also
They should've gone with the circle of the moon approach and just scatter the harder enemies in earlier areas
Like surely we can easily excuse it with a "they fell"

[sacred crater]

Sinners sidewalk

[crimson carbon]

3 moms is crazy

[normal token]

Her dad fucked 2 of them

[full halo]

did you guys see the vegetable hollow knight game

[onyx owl]

Emma has 2 moms Hornet has 3 💔

[crimson carbon]

i mean like was he that good

[pallid veldt]

good ol pollip cog flies and cho khan can make life easier

[sacred crater]

What if pale king banged the bee

[frank badge]

yea i was hoping removing the void things would fully remove the void enemies from that area

[outer coral]

i played through the entire game unable to use red tools 😭😭😭

[onyx owl]

Vespa looks fine but Herrah got them large curves

[crimson carbon]

what is ava

[alpine inlet]

imo my biggest issue with this game is how literally everything deals double damage

Widow and Lace are my most favorite Act 1 bosses because only few attacks of them deal double damage and it emphasizes the beauty of their attacks as well

[young vortex]

i mean he is a god

[crimson carbon]

is there any theories

[frank badge]

true true

[hallow panther]

Idk if the resulting offsprings would suit their needs to save their world

[sacred crater]

Vespa x Herrah

[pallid veldt]

i have a theory that zote is cursed [carrying a parasite like us]

[young vortex]

i think it's a bit triggerhappy with double damage but it is once again too minor for me to really care

[onyx owl]

Most girls would probably want him to give them a child since it almost always would turn out very strong

[young vortex]

nah nah vespa x herra x white lady

[outer coral]

yessssss

[full halo]

Why does team cherry make male characters ugly and female ones pretty

[alpine inlet]

Act 2 is fine for the most part except Bilewater, I don't think I have enough experience to comment on Act 3 tho

[onyx owl]

PK getting sidelined

[sacred crater]

We wouldn't know that

[crimson carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-pharloom-gif-11339581464096100828

[pallid veldt]

i for one accepted i that 10 masks are 5hp

[young vortex]

because team cherry's based

[onyx owl]

It's not a romance thing it's genuinely something similar to Zeus doing it with a girl

[crimson carbon]

zeus was a whore

[velvet marlin]

im starting to thing wanderers crest is the best

[full halo]

Listen. Bilewater is metroidvania perfection genre wise

[onyx owl]

And what came out of that was KRATOS hence Hornet=Kratos

[crimson carbon]

no

[normal token]

Those Wyrm genes go crazy

[pallid veldt]

the first game had some cool male designs now not so much

[young vortex]

he can come on the weekends

[velvet marlin]

NOT trying to start a crest war
i just main reapers creat and am using wanderers for coral tower

[split cape]

Where did YOU come from

[frank badge]

i feel like she also wanted a child because she was about to go to sleep forever lol. wouldve been her last chance to reproduce (im not perfect at lore tell me if im wrong)

[arctic epoch]

This mighr be a peak fight

[worthy lintel]

Is this a real modded boss now or just an edited photo?

[hallow panther]

That’s basically the deal she made

[pallid veldt]

ah yes the sisters the forbidden 3*

[onyx owl]

MONARCH, YOUR DAUGHTER HAS RETURNED, I BRING YOU THE DEMISE OF HALLOWNEST

[full halo]

MANTIS LORDS FIGHT

[crimson carbon]

also there is a silksong fent addction

[frank badge]

yeah but im just saying it isnt fully a thing of she wants a powerful child,, she also just wants a child

[split cape]

Silkpo

[onyx owl]

Lifeblood 😂

[crimson carbon]

yes

[crimson carbon]

its pg 13 fent

[pallid veldt]

its just normal fent, but they add silk to it

[crimson carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-chemistry-experiment-scientific-walter-white-gif-17820266

[exotic dome]

silken sisters into prime mother silk

[surreal cradle]

i killed gran again

[full halo]

People who 100% silksong and replayed the game, do you still play silksong

[surreal cradle]

how long do credits last :(

[split cape]

Would it make it super fent if you added void to it

[crimson carbon]

lowkeh i would grandmama kind of fine

[young vortex]

i can't 100% the game because i don't have enough money

[frank badge]

like 39 minutes

[arctic epoch]

Thats a pretty hard question

[pallid veldt]

there was an opt to turn it off iirc

[surreal cradle]

[young vortex]

radiance, as always, better

[exotic dome]

i 100%'d it twice but still wanna play it. but i have to study

[full halo]

Why

[frank badge]

if youre lucky its 38 minutes

[surreal cradle]

really

[young vortex]

i didn't buy any tools at any point during the game

[surreal cradle]

67 minutes?

[pallid veldt]

check options once u r done ud need tht for act 3

[full halo]

that’s crazy y would u do that

[onyx owl]

I AM NOT IN DANGER HORNET I AM THE DANGER

[crimson carbon]

not the fent natty

[young vortex]

because i've basically never used tools once

[pallid veldt]

masochism is a plague

[crimson carbon]

same

[frosty eagle]

ohhh, so that's why Styx was put in sinners road

[ocean bridge]

ye

[onyx owl]

?

[vivid fractal]

Hottest boss in the game are the Forebrothers, fite me

[young vortex]

well, no red ones
claw mirrors are great

[arctic epoch]

Plasmium allows you to do mount fay act 1 :P

[frosty eagle]

found bilewater

[crimson carbon]

always grandmother silk is homophpic can we talk abou that

[full halo]

It’s a new feature how do u not try it

[hallow panther]

Yeah, because she likely assumed she’ll never wake up again but the world actually needed saving badly, so having an actual offspring was the best bargain she could think of

[surreal cradle]

W

[onyx owl]

It's kinda weird how humanoid GMS looks

[split cape]

I rest my case

[pallid veldt]

she could be a lesbian if u wanted to

[crimson carbon]

no she trapped and ruined there kindom becuase they were togather

[full halo]

What happens if I never free green prince and go to act3

[young vortex]

lace and phantom are both definitely a little bit gay maybe it runs in the family

[crimson carbon]

there sisters

[split cape]

This shit looks like an alien sighting image

[onyx owl]

You still can I think

[pallid veldt]

no verdania

[young vortex]

second sentinel followed by lost lace i say

[solid river]

hm im lost to where to go next, how do i know where?

[full halo]

Hornet is ugly asf naked and has no aura

[onyx owl]

Maybe not?

[gloomy fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-trying-not-to-laugh-laughing-facepalm-lmao-gif-15446474421410342464

[lusty narwhal]

Lmao

[polar stag]

I just had a really good idea for a game that will never happen.

Imagine an Adventure Time metroidvania designed by Team Cherry where you play as Finn wearing the Jake Suit which is how you gain new movement abilities and upgrades.

[terse stone]

going on my world tour to get my hunters journal complete, Deep Docks (except the deep diver) Far fields (expect Karmelita), Greymoor, Shellwood, and Blasted Steps are finished

[crimson carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hornet-hollow-knight-snap-hollow-knight-silksong-naked-hornet-gif-16623240833719408003

[normal token]

This would've been prime silkpost material

[young vortex]

oh god i mean they're both a little bit gay separately

[onyx owl]

King von of Pharloom

[full halo]

Hornet without cloak got no aura fr

[crimson carbon]

fr

[gloomy fjord]

How did bro not beat karmelita, such an easy boss

[young vortex]

such an inherently funny looking individual

[celest bramble]

drop kick everyone to death is best aura

[young vortex]

she is like the second hardest boss

[crimson carbon]

she was a very fun boss

[full halo]

Also why did hornet snap someone’s neck in a pg12 game?

[terse stone]

Next up tomorrow is finishing up the citadel before going back to greymoor to finish off the other path from sinners road

[normal token]

The way she just snaps their neck always gets me

[tribal canopy]

Damn she's good

[crimson carbon]

aura

[young vortex]

you kill thousands in this game

[gloomy fjord]

True, but still not as hard as i expected

[lusty narwhal]

Nah she loses so much aura from losing her cloak that even the kick can't make up the aura

[crimson carbon]

bruh sybau

[full halo]

Yeah but they’re bugs

[lusty narwhal]

Well duh she is the final boss

[full halo]

Who cares about bug lives

[young vortex]

so is the guy who gets his neck snapped

[onyx owl]

I used to think Lace was saluting GMS when she beat you

[full halo]

[pallid veldt]

kindnapper

[young vortex]

hollow knight's final bosses were kinda pathetic lost lace broke that trend before it could even begin

[gloomy fjord]

Also i don’t for sure but considering bug physiology you should not be able to snap a bug’s neck

[polar stag]

Just beat Widow first try again.

[terse stone]

very good boss

[velvet marlin]

i finally beat coral tower 3 ahhghg

[onyx owl]

Lost Lace shouldn't have been the final boss tbh

[young vortex]

i mean they still have skeletons just on the outside

[full halo]

What’s the common agreement for the hardest boss in silksong

[young vortex]

i think it is lost lace by a lot

[pallid veldt]

OPEN THE SHORTCUT WHEN U FIND ITTT

[terse stone]

Idk i thought it worked for the story they were trying to tell

[velvet marlin]

i did! finally war is over

[onyx owl]

It'd have been a lot more interesting had Void taken control of GMS and we would fight her

[celest bramble]

more like why is lace 2 barely buffs her then lost lace being hard

[gloomy fjord]

Exo skeleton yes but idk if that is the same

[hallow panther]

My only complaint with LL is probably the camera shakes from certain moves

[crimson carbon]

Savage beast fly is ass for a boss

[pallid veldt]

THIS

[young vortex]

yeah it was my least favorite for a very long time

[steady abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[onyx owl]

The final bosses in these games should be higher beings and Lace is far from it

[celest bramble]

still better then broodmother and snail eater whateverthehellitscalled

[lusty narwhal]

There are 3 final boss in hk ||the hollow knight, radiance and Absolute radiance|| and last one from what I have heard is even harder than lost lace and compared to thk radiance was hard

[full halo]

Lost Lace should’ve had GMS as phase 1 then LL phase 2

[steady abyss]

chat did they release the new patch?

[grave basalt]

lost lace or groal

[velvet marlin]

now im scarwd

[lusty valve]

i cant beat groal bro ive tried everything 💔

[gloomy fjord]

Ngl, i would say lost lace, compared to karmelita she did farm me

[normal token]

yes

[onyx owl]

PV is harder than LL imho

[polar stag]

Using poison straight pins against Widow is really good for that fight when you're at a distance. Swapping between long-distance projectiles and close quarters needle hits was actually really fun

[steady abyss]

when

[young vortex]

absrad is harder than lost lace but really not by much

[normal token]

yesterday

[pallid veldt]

and we already fought her twice,

[onyx owl]

Yep

[steady abyss]

where are the patch notes

[celest bramble]

just stay in the water

[crimson carbon]

I wish there was a lore chat for silksong

[lusty narwhal]

Maybe it is but it was never mentioned in my message

[lusty valve]

how do i do damage

[full halo]

Silksong bosses steamroll HK bosses

[onyx owl]

I'll be real Lace got kinda boring after the second fight

[crimson carbon]

there is

[celest bramble]

after his attacks? cogflies

[hallow panther]

#sk-lore ?

[onyx owl]

Disagree

[terse stone]

I’m not complaining imo, i happened to love the lace fight so I was having fun

[lusty narwhal]

Oh really? I never fought it so idk

[lusty valve]

thatd take centuries but i his hitbox so big 💔

[celest bramble]

enjoy the runback then

[lusty narwhal]

True

[onyx owl]

HK has Grimm, PV and Radiance FFS

[pallid veldt]

oh it was fun even the 3rd fight but, i wish there was like a "final boss", lace didnt have it imo

[young vortex]

pure vessel i say is on par with absolute radiance in difficulty so i also disagree with that but i think ll's a very comfortable third

[steady abyss]

THEY GUTTED THREAD STORM 💔

[lusty narwhal]

Maybe

[kind frigate]

Average Boss Quality : Silksong
Best Bosses : Hollow Knight (as of yet)
there

[onyx owl]

Radiance is harder for me because you need to be mid air to do DPS and there are no corners to hold onto

[pallid veldt]

play 1.0 version🤷‍♂️

[lusty valve]

thanks twin ✌️

[onyx owl]

What happened

[kind frigate]

deserved

[celest bramble]

poison cogfly is doing more then half of its health, you dont even need to hit him that much

[full halo]

Do you guys enjoy duel 1v1 like bosses like Phantom and Lace or big bosses with random bullshit like radiance and gms more

[young vortex]

silksong bosses are a lot harder at times but it's always better to die to a silksong boss than a hollow knight boss because runbacks are way less of an issue in silksong

[torn wren]

Is this good thing to do when you going for The 100% 30h achievment on PlayStation. Anybody try to use earlier checkpoibts when a boss is kicking your butt

[lusty valve]

they die mad fast tho

[grave basalt]

use wanderer or witch

[pallid veldt]

id agree with tht, but thematically hk was better [ending wise atleast]

[pure oar]

wait so pale nails even in a shaman crest build at most is 1 damage more than silk spear. thats kinda depressing ngl

[celest bramble]

all the HK hard fights give you a close bench

[lusty valve]

if i use cogflies and conch can i do all of its health with the poision?

[young vortex]

my favorite bosses are nightmare king grimm who falls under the first thing and absolute radiance who falls under the latter
and sly's who's a bit of both

[lusty narwhal]

I think best bosses in silksong are definitely comparable to hk's best bosses like karmelitta, LL ,Second sentinel, first sinner and cogwork dancers

[polar stag]

after this game I really want more Metroidvanias from Team Cherry. I don't even care if they're in the HK-verse or not. Just more of Team Cherry's art, gameplay, characters, bosses, enemies, worldbuilding, Christopher Larkin's music. Just more of that please.

[velvet marlin]

im using wanderer

[celest bramble]

they only die after they deal damage

[terse stone]

oh no, thread storm isn’t making every other ability be weak in damage in comparison, what a tragedy

[grave basalt]

ah okay

[full halo]

See you in 7 years bro

[young vortex]

yeah and the hardest silksong fights do too

[grave basalt]

GET LUCKY THEN! HIT EM CRITS!

[polar stag]

probably more than that honestly

[terse stone]

I wanna see what they’d do with other genres

[young vortex]

but for fights that aren't hard you're still gonna die a couple times near invariably and if you're dying in hollow knight it's gonna suck to get back like 50% of the time

[celest bramble]

except you die in 3 hits in silksong so you actually deal with runbacks in most fights

[grave basalt]

I once hit 3 crits in a row on green prince

[hallow panther]

It being able to seek enemies is probably the tradeoff

[twin tulip]

lads any good godhome mods out yet?

[lusty valve]

not groal the great

[young vortex]

i had to do like half the hive like four times

[full halo]

I hate how bad team cherry is at communicating bro

[terse stone]

Like gimme a full on platformer, or a rougelike

[pallid veldt]

blashphemous

[pure oar]

did you open the short cut?

[young vortex]

not one of the hardest bosses in the games and nowhere near as bad as hive knight's

[lusty narwhal]

You can try Celeste if you want an platformer

[kind frigate]

damn is bro a coral tower lover now

[velvet marlin]

yeah

[celest bramble]

blasphmous barely have long platforming

[velvet marlin]

i am

[lusty valve]

if he isnt locked by a gauntlet then im good

[kind frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-out-loud-laugh-ridiculous-hilarious-lolz-gif-17376550074772904877

[pure oar]

might as well not even spam thread storm

[terse stone]

I will after I finish my shit with SS, but I wanna see how TC would handle it

[lusty narwhal]

Yep

[young vortex]

groal's runback is bad but it's like traitor lord runback bad
nothing like that of hive knight soul master and crystal guardian

[lusty narwhal]

It wouldn't be anytime soon tho

[polar stag]

I don't even know what other genres could work for the way they design games. I'd say a platformer could be cool but Silksong already has fantastic movement and platforming. Do you think Team Cherry could design a good 3d game?

[gloomy fjord]

The boss is very easy

[normal token]

Making a 3d game would mean we'd get 3d models and Ari would snap

[torn coral]

Crust king Khann has such skill issue that he needs an entire gauntlet beforehand just like Groal

[lusty narwhal]

Nah groal runback isn't even comparable to hk bosses

[celest bramble]

half the fight is just not as bad, still features bad runbacks

[lusty valve]

FAHH

[pure oar]

hunter crest was also buffed

[polar stag]

does Ari not like 3d modelling? has he ever mentioned that?

[lusty valve]

groals fight is bad

[pallid veldt]

its he 4th one not the boss right?

[zealous thicket]

There arent bad or good runbacks, only hard or easy runbacks

[north smelt]

ugh Signis and Gron ARE ANNOYING

[pure oar]

they're buffing all of hornets basic combat skills

[pallid veldt]

nah they are not even in the same realm imo

[young vortex]

yeah silksong has bad runbacks but even its absolute worst would be like somewhat worse than average in hollow knight

[zealous thicket]

Runbacks are there for the sake of getting you tilted so you have a higher chance of dying

[normal token]

Nah just an overexaggeration on that part
Don't think TC would lend to 3d models since they really only have 1 main artist on the team that does all the 2d art

[pallid veldt]

act 2 or 3?

[north smelt]

2 :<

[steady abyss]

sybau

[north smelt]

wait they return in act 3??

[polar stag]

Maybe they could do a roguelike/lite?

[terse stone]

?

[young vortex]

i agree but probably in a different
i believe hive knight's is incomparably awful and made every other runback tolerable for me in comparison

[pallid veldt]

then its cool [if u fight them now don have to fight the harder version in act 3]

[lusty narwhal]

No but if you fight em in act 3 they get worse

[zealous thicket]

Parry supremacy is real

[celest bramble]

HK only has horrible runbacks on a few fights, Silksong is like half the fights wants you to do long ass runabcks, some even put you in a gauntlet before boss

[wind compass]

SBF comes back in act 3

[steady abyss]

tbh might finally start using sharp dart now

[wheat isle]

Did you guys know that in Steel Soul the Dead Bug's Pouch turns into an actually good tool especially for Architect's Crest and tool-based builds

[north smelt]

oh no. My friend told me to defeat most bosses in act 2, before 3, so im doing them right now. I alr got the melodies

[wind compass]

yes

[zealous thicket]

Get stitch and start react parrying everything ✌✌

[lusty narwhal]

Yepb

[young vortex]

if last judge's runback was in hollow knight i genuinely believe it would be better than average

[hallow panther]

gl though I have to say his attacks are extremely telegraphed, so much I was able to beat him first try

[tawdry sierra]

hallownest > fartloom

[wind compass]

yes, defeat every single act 2 boss you can before progressing into act 3

[young vortex]

and it's one of the worst ones in silksong

[north smelt]

Hive knight runback was hard. The actual boss took 2-3 tries. I went there once i got dreamgate

[terse stone]

deepnest run back, both benches are literally at the opposite end of the map, meaning if you die on your way to the dreamer, you’re going to have to walk ALL the way across again

[polar stag]

I feel like the most prevalent 2d games that would work for TC's style are platformers, metroidvanias, and roguelikes/lites.

[steady abyss]

alr got it

[lusty valve]

guys why exactly is groal needed for act 3

[wheat isle]

Yo is that Adachi Rei

[lusty narwhal]

This just shows that it was a good idea to nerf it so that ppl will try other skills

[wheat isle]

Hot take but Hive Knight was the worst runback in both games

[normal token]

Seeker Soul item required for the quest that is necessary for act 3

[pallid veldt]

thats what i thought too, but id take 2 or 3 more hive knight runbacks instead of groal runback

[celest bramble]

and last judge runback is not even bad, in silksong standards

[zealous thicket]

You gotta do it to complete trail's end, a quest from shakra

[young vortex]

i was just saying how it's so bad it makes even shit like groal look good in comparison

[wind compass]

Groal can be skipped through glitches

[north smelt]

the shortcut was very helpful

[pallid veldt]

oh ye tht one was easy

[lusty valve]

nope i got the quest without beating him

[wheat isle]

Just do Phantom instead if it's that bad

[wind compass]

what shortcut

[lusty valve]

imma do the putrified ducts glitch im done w groal

[normal token]

Got patched

[wind compass]

do you wanna get all collectibles?

[pallid veldt]

silk and soul quest item locked behind his door

[wheat isle]

Weakling

[zealous thicket]

You completed it?

[lusty valve]

most unfun boss ive fought inna while

[young vortex]

if i am somehow getting the point across that i don't like bilewater and would rather avoid it i have failed i actually like that place

[velvet marlin]

wait that was actually a joke
i would like to offer my sincerest apologies to the wanderers crest users

[celest bramble]

if the runback just make most player go "fuck this I am just gonna spam all tools and skip the fight" then it is bad design

[terse stone]

Mantis lords runback:

[steady abyss]

to get the shamans soul, idk if they fixed it, but you can skip him by using the hollow purple tool in ducts https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UyyjAbl51wM

[lusty valve]

i have better things to do 💔

[north smelt]

the vertical wall for last judge.

[tawdry sierra]

ye

[lusty narwhal]

Counter point: Dream gate

[velvet marlin]

i wanna do it again

[wind compass]

yea, trail's end doesn't require any boss fights
just have the map I think (or even just talk with Shakra)

[terse stone]

you usually get that super late though

[steady abyss]

REAL

[pallid veldt]

i rarely see ppl use tht shit

[zealous thicket]

I remember passing through bileheaven for it

[wind compass]

Acting as if I'd immediately know what you're talking about

[wheat isle]

Btw do you guys know what trigger in the save file editor gives you the Garmond journal entry

[north smelt]

D:

[zealous thicket]

But idk, I remember hearing it was needed or sum

[rich pagoda]

The last bit of the Cogwork Dancers fight made me so sad
It's such a fun fight

[young vortex]

1. hidden bench exists
2. even without that i'd rather do all of bilewater 10 times than all of the hive 4 times

[normal token]

You don't need to have defeated Groal to get Trail's End

[steady abyss]

dream gate

[wheat isle]

Without clearly

[north smelt]

ikr

[lusty narwhal]

I fought hive knight and traitor lord after dream gate so runbacks at that point become trivial

[wind compass]

you don't have to, but you might've taken a different route
I went from the bellway and up and around

[steady abyss]

well i had it when i fought him

[young vortex]

i'd also rather do all of bilewater 10 times than half of crystal peak twice fuck you crystal guardian

[terse stone]

Absolute radiance is clearly the worst runback smh

[wheat isle]

I hope we get able to set Dream Gate with Needolin at some point

[zealous thicket]

Seeems legit

[hallow panther]

I didn’t think the hive was that bad

[wind compass]

no

[rich pagoda]

But the solo dancer? Ouch... I felt dirty having to kill the lone guy

[tawdry sierra]

fartloom and bellfart

[lusty narwhal]

100%

[celest bramble]

barely any platforming and easy to avoid enemies, no heal disabling ground, no gauntlet before boss

[young vortex]

it's not hard i just fucking hate the place

[pallid veldt]

rng mobs tht respawn in ur face and eplode, nah am good

[wind compass]

I lwk wish I had silkshot then
I could've shot him in the head

[steady abyss]

the only problem with the bilewater runback is the vertical room with all the flies in it

[north smelt]

the huge bees were annoying. Drill be was easy to evade. Big dudes came in by suprise

[wheat isle]

It lowkey might be the best crest for speedrunning because of the straight up damage increase

[lusty narwhal]

Comrade🤝

[steady abyss]

nah, hunters is peak

[young vortex]

bilewater is nothing like what people say it is it's really not that bad
the muck is always quite avoidable most of the time i fall in it is in sinner's road

[wind compass]

eeh good range, great survivability, but objectively the worst crest I think

[wheat isle]

Yes but we were all less experienced because it was our first time playing HK whereas we have experience from HK when playing SS

[wind compass]

ok

[pallid veldt]

"thats how the game's meant to be played"

[steady abyss]

reaper is ass

[celest bramble]

its not experience when theres 6-7 years between games

[terse stone]

things can be bad in different ways, yes, all of this is true, but Bilewater doesn’t have those stupid fucking giant bees that you try to avoid while you jump on the tiny little platforms

[normal token]

Like clockwork

[burnt violet]

id mostly say survivability

[hallow panther]

I think what makes it worse is all the stilkins and their guerilla nonsense

[cerulean sable]

I need BILEWATER VETERAN patch

[celest bramble]

they are still easier then the respwaning flies that blocks your jump making you fall into heal disabling water

[young vortex]

you can literally just go past them

[wheat isle]

Sorry I'm biased because I got Hollow Knight 2 months before and 112%ed it two days before Silksong

[burnt violet]

we need more runbacks in videogames tbh

[wind compass]

I mean speedrunners do use it but I think thats only bc every other crest is so out of the way😭
they switch to shaman after in True Ending cuz dmg

[lusty narwhal]

Why the hell are ppl not using dream gate for traitor lord???

[pallid veldt]

i beat tht game with it and tht was my mentality

[young vortex]

also hive knight's is just incredibly boring the hive has fucking nothing it's just a multiple minute long trek through nothing

[tribal canopy]

HELL YEAH >:DD

[wheat isle]

It's kind of sad how speedrunners can't use some tools that would make the runs more fun

[velvet marlin]

act 3 question ||how do i fight purple trobby :(||

[hallow panther]

They all have it set at the failed tramway ig

[wheat isle]

Go to his arena

[celest bramble]

and even runback like the Unravelled is a 50 sec waste of time despite not having platforming or enemies

[lusty narwhal]

Lol true

[wind compass]

yeah ig

[velvet marlin]

he isnt there

[wheat isle]

He's busy listening to MCR

[cerulean sable]

when the US marines started dropping in the LL fight cuz they thought void was oil, i cried 😭 😭 😭

[young vortex]

i have no memory of any annoyance at the unravelled runback

[tribal canopy]

!!!HUGE SPOILERS!!! WHAT THE FUCK !!!HUGE SPOILERS!!!

[crimson carbon]

silksong for me is 9/10 game very close to 10/10 for me just i need more music

[wind compass]

go to Songclave and accept his wish
then go to his arena

[pallid veldt]

noice, u can use it for ur entire playthru

[velvet marlin]

thank you

[lusty narwhal]

The lord

[pallid veldt]

hey bro

[spring jackal]

it's wish tied
u need to accept the wish from songclave first i think

[hallow panther]

Void given form

[wind compass]

should've told me its a spoiler what the fuck

[terse stone]

I don’t even particularly care about that one because the runback is literally mindless with zero effort having to be put into it

[tribal canopy]

I did ;-;

[weary tapir]

My boy!

[celest bramble]

its not annoyance, its jsut 50 sec waste of time, you wait for elevator up, wait for it to go down, then run a long hallway for no reason

[rich pagoda]

I have said this before and I'll say it again
Silksong has more difficult patterns but they're telegraphed super well. It's not hard to sight read the bosses. I really love that.

[burnt violet]

hornet needs to stop skipping leg day what the hell

[crimson carbon]

yeah the knight shows up that means the god home ending is cancon

[wind compass]

yeah, mildly annoyed me at most

[wheat isle]

Every day is leg day for Hornet

[young vortex]

at least soul master's actually is atrocious silksong only gets to "that's pretty bad"

[pallid veldt]

ye its like the dark souls of hollow knight

[lusty narwhal]

100% like how almost no bosses have repositioning moves like lost kin

[wind compass]

break a wall to make it better

[terse stone]

everything about the unraveled is annoying lmao, they aren’t even a fun boss and they’re way too tanky

[young vortex]

i don't need it i'veliterally never died to him

[wheat isle]

Lost Kin is the most irritating boss in either game that isn't hard

[burnt violet]

i noticed that with that one duo fight in deep docks
it looks kinda overwhelming but it still wasnt too crazy hard

[young vortex]

lost kin is pretty hard i'd say
one of the harder base game bosses

[burnt violet]

what did he do i like him

[lusty narwhal]

Soul master runback isn't that bad specially compared groal runback

[celest bramble]

the thats the problem of run backs, it wastes your time for no reason

[terse stone]

I will gladly go through the last judge runback because it’s a fun boss to attempt

[wheat isle]

The worst boss in Silksong imo followed by Broodmother

[wind compass]

Such a random place for a silk heart
like I get it lore-wise but the other 2 hearts feel like they make sense to be there game-wise
Unravelled's heart is just kinda...there

[young vortex]

man groal's might not even be the worst in silksong raging conchfly is a good contender

[terse stone]

pinstress is down there as well

[wheat isle]

Too bouncy plus screw infected balloons

[burnt violet]

defenders crest

[pallid veldt]

shes just mossmom on meth, beastfly on the other hand....

[terse stone]

Literally just the worst parts of these two enemies

[celest bramble]

lava beastfly broodmother and snail eater wheverheiscalled are wasy worse

[wheat isle]

Yeah I was seriously disappointed in her I was looking forward to it

[young vortex]

and both of them are only as bad as mantis lords or maybe traitor lord

[hallow panther]

I actually don’t understand why bell beast has a silk heart

[lusty narwhal]

YEP i have beaten with defender crest in early-mid game and I was feeling like have a breakdown at the end

[wheat isle]

P4

[rich pagoda]

I do feel that energy yea
HK didn't have the best telegraphing. It relied a lot on reaction times and being able to predict the patterns and prepare for shit ones

[indigo mason]

I feel like they should've made unravelled a more significant boss for them to feel silk heart worthy imo. Sucks because the potential for a silk amalgamate boss is crazy

[burnt violet]

just hit them lowk

[wind compass]

thing is pinstress's throwing needles aren't even bad
they travel at like 1 km/h
Pinstress is just annoying

[burnt violet]

i liked pinstress

[wheat isle]

Dude people were complaining about Beastfly so much I waited until I had a Needle upgrade and more health to fight him

[celest bramble]

HK has good telegraphing, they just dont treat MOVEMENT as an attack so they dont bother giving random jump and movement a wind up

[indigo mason]

Yea only died a few times, not memorable but not bad or frustrating either to me

[wheat isle]

She floats too high

[wind compass]

fr, they could've made it a boss similar to GMS and Rad where it manipulates the arena and you need to hit the hitbox in the background

[wind compass]

yuh

[young vortex]

savage beastfly is my second least favorite boss in the game
only above that bastard tormented trobbio

[lusty narwhal]

Raging conchfly is till you get the shortcut IMO watcher at the end has worse runback than conchfly, but groal is definitely worse(for me atleast)

[wheat isle]

Btw are there any mods that feel like they "fit the canon" like Pale Court because every other mod seems to be a joke or challenge mod

[wind compass]

I dont get the tormented trobbio hate

[wheat isle]

I thought Trobbio was stupid and then I LOVED Tormented Trobbio

[terse stone]

right down to the flying right out of your reach if you try to hit her

Reminder, this is supposed to be a master melee fighter, but she spends half her time in the air

[normal token]

The game is only like a month and a half old, mods like Pale Court certainly don't exist yet

[raven zealot]

my boss tier list

[wind compass]

wait a few months, those mods would take a bit

[burnt violet]

i thought he was way too easy
both trobbios were tbh

[tribal canopy]

ggs

[wheat isle]

I was talking about either game

[lusty narwhal]

He fucking blinds you with his attacks and those damn diagnol bombs

[rich pagoda]

True as well tbf
But also having to manage shit patterns sometimes like GPZ nonesense by fireballing the summons/balloons

[young vortex]

nearly incoherent and almost entirely unpredictable just a poorly designed boss on all ends

[wind compass]

yea same
TT was a little more harder, but nothing too bad
I really like TT actually

[burnt violet]

i like his aesthetic and everything he is just kinda simple

[wheat isle]

How it feels to leave Zote to suffer in Deepnest forever:

[wind compass]

he felt really predictable

[indigo mason]

Real I beat tormented second try I enjoyed the evolution he brought to the trobbio fight

[lusty narwhal]

In hk there is a shade lord boss

[wheat isle]

I have to do Golden Zote Statue at some point

[burnt violet]

maybe he was too easy cause i had the final nail upgrade

[lusty narwhal]

Agree

[wind compass]

idk yall, TT is a top 5 boss imo

[rich pagoda]

I used to be a GPZ hater. I love the fight now lol. Maybe because I got the gold statue by grinding it out for fun

[hallow panther]

You know when Zote does his sword swing shockwave plus doing the direction change midair when you try to dash under him
This gets me hit a lot

[arctic epoch]

He has like 4 attacks tho 💔

[wheat isle]

I wish in Godhome there was some way to set your stats to lower masks, silk or needle level so that bosses would be more challenging

[normal token]

I liked the first Trobbio fight and got annoyed with the 2nd

[rigid bolt]

Same

[celest bramble]

half the bosses are like that because they all have random jump/movement that dont have a telegraph

[indigo mason]

That does exist, they're called bindings

[wheat isle]

Idk what my favorite boss is tbh

I really like AbsRad

[wind compass]

when you buy it

[burnt violet]

i need to do steel soul skong

[lusty narwhal]

Dream bosses in hk had like 1 or 2 attacks still they feel extremely in unpredictable(markoth)

[wheat isle]

But even more customizable plus those aren't in the Hall of Gods

[normal token]

?sspsa

[white sail]

Reminder: The latest news for both Hollow Knight and Silksong can be found in #hk-announcements.
Check the pinned messages for more information, including a FAQ.

[indigo mason]

True

[rich pagoda]

My favourite HK boss is Sisters of Battle

[wind compass]

yea prioritise that then
play whenever you can ig

[young vortex]

tormented trobbio just has this added incoherence that i really really hate

[lusty narwhal]

I have heard that it will come out in year 2032

[velvet marlin]

thank was quite easy

[wheat isle]

Feature that we need in Silksong is repainting our Bellhome

No gameplay pure QoL totally uncontroversial change

[wind compass]

mines NKG for hk and Karm for ss
I'm unique, ik

[velvet marlin]

i just beat him! he was fuun

[arctic epoch]

But how can TT be unpredictable?. When he flies, he either perform a heavily-telegraphed tornado, a very well telegraphed explosions or throw bombs that are literally deflectable

[lusty narwhal]

Yep definitely

[wind compass]

yuppp
I love the confetti explosions

[celest bramble]

this comment is literally every single game

[wind compass]

Lace lookin mad fine today

[wheat isle]

One of the hardest bosses is Failed Champion because I never bothered to learn him without the cheese

[velvet marlin]

bro willingly joined the server btw

[indigo mason]

We actually have the same opinion wth

Karmelita is actually probably my favourite hkss boss period, like across both games

[brittle elbow]

i mean
lace do got that gyat tho,. can you blame em

[rich pagoda]

I love Cogwork Dancers because they remind me of Sisters of Battle in many ways
Minus the occasional teleporting into you problems
But I haven't experienced enough SS yet to actually pick a favourite.

[lusty narwhal]

The bombs are the unpredictable part like the diagnol bombs Almost ALWAYS gets me

[wheat isle]

Hollow Knight anime when

[wind compass]

ok buddy you might wanna shut up you're gonna get into a religious beef with someone I'd bet

[pulsar dagger]

Hard to beat the mantis lords.

[hallow panther]

Netflix adaptation:

[velvet marlin]

samee

[wheat isle]

https://tenor.com/view/alpha-gif-17882209849537708463

[young vortex]

my favorites are nkg in hk and first sinner in ss so i'm even less original

[wind compass]

I think I like NKG over Karm, but Karm might be no. 2 overall

[brittle elbow]

hk but more in the perspective of hornet
and then silksong

[indigo mason]

Totally valid tbh

[lusty narwhal]

Then it's better to not join the discord community of games as all games have like that same type of discord community

[merry harbor]

[celest bramble]

you already have anime cut scenes

[burnt violet]

i think the silksong/hk fandom is one of the better ones

[wheat isle]

Mobile is so hard dude

[merry harbor]

Which gun should i get

[wind compass]

yeah, they're both great fights

[wheat isle]

Are you a clanker bro

[burnt violet]

the 12th architect one is so sick but so ass

[lusty narwhal]

?????

[rich pagoda]

So fun fact about FC. He can only spam the same move 3 times in a row iIrc. Might be 2 times. And he's got basically 2 moves besides the tantrums. Point is that he's got a rhythm of whacks and he can't just keep doing the same thing over and over again.

[wind compass]

Mt Fay is the best, and the others have their appeals

[merry harbor]

Best in looks worst in actual use

[wheat isle]

True Silkshot seems to be the coolest and best one (and probably the canon one)

[gloomy fjord]

He aint real tho(joke……)

[lusty narwhal]

Bro is more weird is than us

[pulsar dagger]

SS bosses are so much better imo.

[young vortex]

only god i worship is the forgotten god of light hell yeah

[hallow panther]

They all have ups and downs. I personally chose the Mount Fay one because it’s literally a piercing hitscan weapon

[merry harbor]

No shit

[celest bramble]

well if you want pure DPS or utility you will use none of the guns anyway, if you use the gun just choose the one you think look the coolest

[lusty narwhal]

Agree

[wheat isle]

Ignore bro I think he's a clanker

[pulsar dagger]

You’re fun

[lusty narwhal]

Probably

[merry harbor]

Blacksmith looks like ki blast

[wheat isle]

"A smith? Hardly so crude!"

[young vortex]

i think silksong has a better average but hollow knight has better peaks
but said better peaks are almost entirely from post-release updates so it's not a fair comparison

[wind compass]

Architect is just so spammable
fav one fr

[rich pagoda]

Why do I know that? I know a lot of random factoids about HK bosses that pertain to beating them consistently and safely
Because I practiced for P3AB-P5AB before I got super walled by Collector AB...

[pulsar dagger]

I can agree with that.

[wind compass]

CoT intro >>>>> 90% of ss

[solemn socket]

Heya, decided to leave class, in the school yard rn.. I left because im literally not FUCKING accepted, and i was framed for throw ing a stitch toy (i dont even have a stitch toy) it was from a girl in the class

[wheat isle]

The fact that Primal Aspids SOMEHOW managed to weasel their way into Godhome is funny asl

[lusty narwhal]

CoT?

[normal token]

Pure Sherma fight in DLC gonna go crazy

[wind compass]

City of Tears

[lusty narwhal]

Ah

[wheat isle]

That sucks public school is bad

[potent wren]

Goin for speed completion and I just had a sick as hell fight against First Sinner. Ended up hitting clawline in time with the music every time

[lusty narwhal]

Wow

[harsh comet]

There are big changes ahead, but they wont be good ones

[solemn socket]

And worse, im the smartest student in the class

[wind compass]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

[indigo mason]

First sinner is peak 🔥

[pulsar dagger]

What’s y’all most died to bosses?

Mine are Moorwing, widow, broodmother. Quite the 3 I know

[wheat isle]

I have every HK achievement except for P5 and the two speedruns (I got Speed Completion without even trying)

[young vortex]

city of tears doesn't even have an intro and in all honestly i don't get why people put that specific area on a pedestal

[surreal cradle]

just got into act 3 and i suck

[rich pagoda]

I hate them so much. I honestly don't mind fighting them when I can take my time and pick them off but Collector AB makes this not feasible at all for many reasons. You want the laughing mfer off of your screen as quickly as possible because it's less BS summoning you have to deal with.

[pulsar dagger]

Literally has a cinematic

[young vortex]

lost lace: 27
tormented trobbio: 14
widow: 12
karmelita: 10

[potent wren]

Is there like a tracker we can check or did y'all just keep count as you were going?

[gloomy fjord]

I 1st tried tormented trobbio with reaper crest i am sorry fr

[indigo mason]

Probably karmelita but I'm not upset by that. I also died a lot to high halls and that was the most miserable part of my first play through. Don't remember exact number. OH moorwing as well that wasnt very fun because it was pre nerf

[brittle elbow]

i'm 70 deaths into trying to beat lost lace with just reaper crest basic attacks and 1HP
i havent succeeded yet

[hallow panther]

Flea Dodge 95+ /j

[wheat isle]

Umm... I think I died to most bosses about the same amount but the one I died the most to was probably Phantom? (I think?) I don't remember because I liked pretty much every Silksong boss

[wind compass]

as in when you first enter it from the hagamol statue
and most people just really like the aesthetics, lore, content, size, and grandeur of CoT

[pulsar dagger]

Just memory from about how long it felt like. A very wide gap from the others so it’s a bit obvious for me.

[young vortex]

tormented trobbio took me an identical amount of deaths as nkg lol

[burnt violet]

i died to moorwing for like an hour and a half and killed every other boss in less than 5 tries

[celest bramble]

broodmother the most death, time consuming is prob bilewater, FFS

[young vortex]

i actually did keep count i've been doing that since broken vessel

[gloomy fjord]

Bro😭

[potent wren]

My guess would be Lost Lace is terms of attempts. But Savage Beastfly 2 took the longest and is definitely second most deaths

[young vortex]

eh i prefer deepnest

[gleaming path]

phantom ? anything particularly hard about them ?

[brittle elbow]

y'all didn't just first-try savage beastfly? what?

[merry harbor]

Yall got screenshot of a nuke architect build

[hidden pagoda]

You must've beat NKG in like 5 tries, right?

[unreal thicket]

Waiting for Pharloom Bay dlc, day 1

[indigo mason]

I honestly still like COT over citadel... Defo nostalgia bias I think the citadel will grow on me because it's genuinely a really cool area COT just hits different

[wind compass]

to each their own

[celest bramble]

just poison cogfly

[wheat isle]

I used Wanderer's Crest for almost my whole playthrough with a little bit of Architect's because Architect's is great for melting enemies and Wanderer's is the fastest and most intense

[gloomy fjord]

Its mid

[young vortex]

15 tries, actually

[wind compass]

yea CoT is my fav area across both games
Choral Chambers did a good job replicating that imo tho, I was just starstruck while exploring it and how big it is

[pulsar dagger]

Same. It was definitely the first true boss showcasing the different feel from HK and SS. You gotta pick up the pace for sure.

[brittle elbow]

unusually clean water

[wheat isle]

Not really it just took me a bit

[rich pagoda]

I know my lowest death counts is Fourth Chorus at 0. But I don't know my highest. Probably Widow currently? Last Judge was easier and quicker for me by far. I'm only getting my teeth into Act 2 so please forgive lol

[celest bramble]

i somehownever run into moorwing until close to the end of act 2

[merry harbor]

Boring

[burnt violet]

i did not switch off wanderer ever once i got it

[wheat isle]

If any of you can play piano Choral Chambers is pretty easy and very fun to play

[rich pagoda]

Also Moss mother is at 0. But I don't think anyone cares about that first try.

[celest bramble]

you ask for a nuking architect build

[wind compass]

Lowest death is 1 for me, I've never been able to first try a boss😭

[burnt violet]

i did both trobbios and gms first try
khann and nyleth were too i think

[gleaming path]

Highest death count was like Karmelita ?? probably and lowest is like conchflies, sister splinter and all those early easy ones

[terse stone]

and similarly the music is great

[merry harbor]

U call that nuke

[wind compass]

I remember the music now
it was so nice to hear after the noisy, rough path to the top

[gloomy fjord]

Reaper crest brother, what the hell😭

[celest bramble]

yes because you are nuking the boss when it screams

[merry harbor]

I spam sting shard poison

[gleaming path]

yeah reaper crest the goat

[vivid fractal]

Lowest deaths has to be Voltwyrm for me

[pulsar dagger]

I died to the Greymoor gauntlet more than any of the others so far. I did the citadel gauntlet 3rd try.

[vivid fractal]

Never even took damage

[wind compass]

both capitals are masterclasses in hk level design

[potent wren]

Phantom took me 2 tries. Lost the first time because I stood in her spawn steam...

[wheat isle]

Btw for anyone struggling with Bilewater get the charge attack from Pinstress and use Architect's it one-shots those pesky Bilekin (I think that's what they'e called I forgot)

[nocturne widget]

THIS IS SO HARDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[indigo mason]

I LOVE REAPER SO MUCH ITS MY GOAT

[terse stone]

I liked far fields music

[wind compass]

oh Volywyrm counts as a boss? Ig I did first try 1 boss then

[nocturne widget]

reaper crest is buns

[celest bramble]

sister splinter took quite a while, early game you have no tools and no hp and the adds are immune to damage when they spin

[wheat isle]

Voltvrym is the easiest boss in the game poor guy needs a BUFF

[gleaming path]

clawline+pogo and bully every boss

[terse stone]

not absolutely amazing but it’s nice

[wheat isle]

Ofc Karmelita saying this

[celest bramble]

the run back is the fight

[indigo mason]

It also has one of the best dash attacks as well, it's so satisfying to use

[pulsar dagger]

I got absolutely hammered by Momma Silk first try. Then my brother came over and I beat it 2nd try. The pressure was on.

[alpine inlet]

Ngl at first I thought Greymoor was supposed to be this game's City of Tears

Only in Act 2 did it occur to me that the Citadel itself is a city, I thought it what's the government of Pharloom is called

[gleaming path]

i never use those so i cannot say but i believe

[wheat isle]

Clawline is severely underutilized in combat

[nocturne widget]

THIS PART IS SO HARDD

[terse stone]

This game absolutely killed it with the boss themes

[rich pagoda]

Fair lol
I think that it goes to show how well SS is telegraphed that I can sight read new patterns and beat a boss first try. Like, Cogwork Dancers took me about 3 tries. I got to phase 2 on my first try. Phase 3 on my 2nd. Victory on 3rd. If I'm remembering right anyway

[wind compass]

I think the angrier bosses make me the more I like them
NKG and Karm both made me literally seeth rage and they're my fav bosses now

[wheat isle]

You're so unlikely to die to it the runback doesn't matter

[vivid fractal]

You can recruit Shakra to help you

[gleaming path]

literally every single flying enemy is a clawline

[lusty valve]

guys im in ||putrified ducts|| is there any way to get roasaries here cus im broke and i need 80 for the fast travel

[indigo mason]

Yeah make sure to upgrade as much as you can

[nocturne widget]

REALLY

[wind compass]

give into the darkness
Architect tool spam

[lusty valve]

get shakra to help get all her maps then do her quest

[vivid fractal]

Collect all her maps and go to Bellhart

[burnt violet]

spread yo shit gng

[celest bramble]

you touch anything you take 2 damage then fall into another lightning and take 2-3 more damage

[hallow panther]

I don’t think enemies there drop rosaries

[pulsar dagger]

I never had help from Shakra. Am I gaming?

[wheat isle]

I first tried it and didn't even think about it until I saw everyone complaining

[lusty valve]

im finished

[nocturne widget]

maybe because you ahd good loot

[wheat isle]

Don't fall into lightning

[gleaming path]

i think shakra got more in the way than helped

[nocturne widget]

this is my crest shouldi change anything

[celest bramble]

no shit, just dont fall into bilewater, why people hating

[hallow panther]

Try farming silk off the ceiling trap mobs

[wheat isle]

Go find two memory lockets

[merry harbor]

Yall use curvesickle or throwing ring more?

[nocturne widget]

i have those

[potent wren]

That high halls gauntlet was the hardest thing for sub 5 hours... I'm never doing that again

[gleaming path]

lowk never touched either

[wind compass]

uhh
get some memo lockets
use cogflies
try using a different crest and see if you like another one more

[wheat isle]

I used both an equal amount I think but I equipped Throwing Rings for Poshanka

[merry harbor]

U use reaper

[indigo mason]

Forum was my least favourite part of the game I was getting genuinely frustrated by it 💔 I've grown to respect it but I'll never forget the suffering...

[nocturne widget]

no i dont like reaper so im staying with hunter crest

[wheat isle]

EXACTLY

[terse stone]

Like, LACE THEME???? THE THEME OF MOSS MOTHER/MOORWING??? WIDOW??? LAST JUDGE??? KARMELITA??? LOST LACE???

[pulsar dagger]

Hard to beat the shuriken

[wind compass]

curvesickle's better imo

[gleaming path]

yes

[hallow panther]

I only had more trouble at the last wave of the High Halls gauntlet, but it was unnecessarily long indeed

[potent wren]

But Poshanka

[rich pagoda]

But yea, game's really well telegraphed. Love that it's so smooth to read attack patterns and I feel like my mistakes are genuinely my fault.

[wheat isle]

Phantom and Awakening are my favorites

[hexed sigil]

I think curvesickle is way better because you can hit more

[celest bramble]

you use architect to delete bosses with tools, I use it because I like drills, we are not the same

[wind compass]

nvm, throwing ring carries

[terse stone]

Oh almost forget phantom

[gloomy fjord]

I didn’t use either and i use reaper. Problems? I am indeed the best reaper crest user.

[terse stone]

there’s just so many good ones

[gleaming path]

phantom, skarrsinger karmelita, lost lace, cogwork dancers, awakening

[pulsar dagger]

The overall platforming is more difficult than HK too imo. I think HK bosses are higher difficulty.

[wind compass]

you dare challange me, worm?

[gloomy fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-reaper-crest-the-mist-greymoor-gif-13464358243469655364

[merry harbor]

Problem is answering some shit u shouldn't

[celest bramble]

reaper is the best noob crest

[indigo mason]

Widow, Karmelita and Strive are my favourites

[gloomy fjord]

This is my pov btw

[wheat isle]

Architect is way to good for cheese plus it allowes Lifeblood/Plasmium OD anywhere

[wind compass]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-reaper-crest-jjk-gif-13756134446810053170

[rich pagoda]

Cogwork Dancers are fun. I want to fight them more.

[polar stag]

I heard something about a secret inside Chapel of the Wanderer. Can anyone confirm/tell me where it's at?

[lusty valve]

i had just enought to get the bench thank god

[hardy tangle]

I FUCKING HATEE WRAITHS

[gloomy fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-shay-nope-nah-nuhuh-gif-12298561

[gleaming path]

failing a pogo on reaper is harder than LL

[celest bramble]

i literally only use it for the moveset, I end most boss fight iwth like 0-2 cogfly uses

[nocturne widget]

i loved the cogwork dancers

[terse stone]

gimme swing tempo cogwork dancers or something idfk

[gloomy fjord]

💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯

[rich pagoda]

Oh fuck yea that would be so fun

[potent wren]

The thing that made me stop using reaper was oddly enough the up attack

[rich pagoda]

Give us a 3rd dancer

[quick swan]

silker songer

[celest bramble]

i use reaper on pogo sections because I am bad at pogo

[potent wren]

For some reason I kept missing with it and went back to hunters until I got wanderer

[terse stone]

I don’t know, I feel like that might feel a little cramped

[gleaming path]

clover dancers +1

[grave basalt]

I sooo love witch but the heal can be annoying

[rich pagoda]

Sisters of Battle didn't feel cramped
It'll be fine

[polar stag]

is there a secret inside one of the Crest Chapels? I think I remember someone mentioning it but can't remember what it is or how to find it.

[wheat isle]

I never used Witch nor Shaman's

[gleaming path]

absolutely goated fight

[grave basalt]

you're missing out on witch

[nocturne widget]

yeah i am not getting all shakras map fuck that i need like 4 more or sum

[rich pagoda]

Gimme 3 Cogwork Dancers
I can take em.

[wheat isle]

I did Twisted Child with 6 health if that counts for anything

[gleaming path]

which are you missing? they're usually very easy to fetch

[nocturne widget]

blasted steps sands of karak mount fay and bilewater

[terse stone]

Or polyrhythm clockwork dancers

[nocturne widget]

but i dont wanna head to new areas cuz then ill sidetrack

[pseudo wraith]

you just gotta go to the areas youre missing and moderately explore them until you find shakra

[grave basalt]

go to mount fay and get double jump

[gleaming path]

you'll need mount fay anyway

[wheat isle]

Btw we should be thankful that Spit Squits (AKA Primal Aspid 2) don't appear outside Putrified Ducts

[nocturne widget]

alright ill guess ill go there

[normal tulip]

(ACT 3 SPOILERS) what less than a year of bullet hells does to someone

[gleaming path]

nothing worse than spit squits

[nocturne widget]

but i gtg for now so ill do it later

[potent wren]

Did anyone else miss mount fay the first time?

[grave basalt]

Just give modders 2 more weeks

[gleaming path]

how does one miss mount fay

[wheat isle]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-flandre-bullet-hell-danmaku-beautiful-gif-20350364

[potent wren]

I did basically everything else in the game and beat GMS, and forgot about the exit into mount fay

[celest bramble]

adpid didnt even try to dodge you

[quick swan]

silksong is genuinely such a goated game

[sweet viper]

brooding malwek harder than belleater

[pseudo wraith]

i didnt think it was possible so i thought the lava bell would heat you up (it didnt) then i left and never came back until i got spoiled by a youtube thumbnail

[wheat isle]

They flew away from you pretty high

[celest bramble]

SS ones darts away instead

[wheat isle]

Bell Eater was pretty tough ngl

[rich pagoda]

My solution to Primal Aspids is patience and spells. They're fine.

[wheat isle]

They snatch your fuckin ankles dude

[rich pagoda]

They're fine until you ask me to kill them quickly

[pseudo wraith]

it took me like 6 attempts when i first fought them, but in my steel soul run i easily got them first try

[grave basalt]

idea: every enemy is last claw and every boss is lost lace mod

[terse stone]

I’d like to issue a formal apology to them after these fucking guys

[sweet viper]

spells on primal aspids 😭

[celest bramble]

good thing giant drill hard counters stupid mosquitos

[humble zephyr]

the little shitters that throw metal things are the primal aspids of silksong