sk-discussion

[cobalt rock]

LOL

[fluid grove]

I love toolspam

[fervent bough]

Fighting this bug that loves to throw it back like a OF model is pain

[wind compass]

in the citadel, at the top of Choral Chambers. Find a bench at the top left and make sure you have the harpoon unlocked

[blissful tundra]

I read the patch notes and they didnt say anything about that. Dont see why it wouldnt work on current patch.

[drowsy hazel]

ass jim?

[eternal bone]

awhere do i get the harpoon?

[wind compass]

oh ok

[eternal bone]

why am i missing like 17 things what

[drowsy hazel]

||underworks||

[toxic horizon]

I love charged attacks actually giving silk now

[slim thorn]

i could have added ||abyss and verdania|| but i already grabbed the quill so

[paper vapor]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZW8J3Q1_O_w?si=iqSHNM2damzrtQkH greatest summary of bilewater ever (and most valid crashout)

[slender lily]

funny thing is that i ran out of shards and was too lazy to get out of the void, so i had longclaw and pin master badge to just shred

[fervent bough]

It's the chef on sinners road. It's main attack is dropping its ass on you

[toxic horizon]

Its so beautiful for like every crest except reaper

[drowsy hazel]

yeah, that's him, ass jim

[slender lily]

dwerkfly

[polar stag]

😭

[bitter topaz]

WHY AM I NAKED

THE CATCHERS TOOK MY CAPE

[scenic anvil]

🙁 I don’t think this will be able to help me in fighting the act 3 boss ||seth||

[toxic horizon]

I never met him pre act 3, heartbreaking

[fervent bough]

Where do I get the beast item that lengthens your attack

[grand horizon]

All right y'all, be honest, who still has their hornet statuette?

[drowsy hazel]

putrified ducts

[bitter topaz]

THE SLAB? i thought that was at citadel

[fervent bough]

I forgot where it was thank you

[slender lily]

putrified ducts promise

[toxic horizon]

Huntress in putrified ducts

[drowsy hazel]

me

[toxic horizon]

I never got it

[blissful tundra]

If there are spikes before him and an enemy it would work

[ionic fern]

I don't even use tools

[polar stag]

me. who breaks the fucking statuette just for 60 shards?

[wind compass]

harpoon (Clawline in game) is in the Underworks, on the right side (the side where you enter from Whiteward). To get into Whiteward, get the White Key in Songclave (city in the top left corner of Choral Chambers) then head down to the area you meet Lace and go into an area to put they key in.

[fluid grove]

Me

I’ll never get rid of it

[drowsy hazel]

didn't talk to flick?

[toxic horizon]

Never did the wish

[grand horizon]

Hell yeah

[scenic anvil]

Spikes as in tacks?

[slender lily]

i was so confused when i came back to the huntress after act 3, ||and her children ATE HER??? like wtf 😭 ||

[elfin prairie]

Is the best way to refill shards is to just buy them

[drowsy hazel]

in this save, i'm gonna make sure bone bottom never gets destroyed

[fervent bough]

Yep

[blissful tundra]

any environmental damage that teleports you

[eternal bone]

so do i have to enter whiteward?

[umbral sparrow]

I didn’t even know I could get rid of it

[stark juniper]

OK SO I WANNA PLAY STEEL SOUL IS THERE ANYWAY I CAN PRACTISE BOSSES FOR MY RUNS?

[grand horizon]

Even when I had to farm shards I never broke that thing

[scenic anvil]

Unfortunately no

[wind compass]

yea (at least, its the easiest)

[toxic horizon]

Yep

[elfin prairie]

I am never breaking that

[north cipher]

why even play the game if youre gonna use an invincibility glitch

[stone trail]

do more runs

[slender lily]

ME

[drowsy hazel]

i'm playing steelsoul no practice, just rawdogging it. 😭 💔

[blissful tundra]

Ever heard of speedrunners? You must be new to the internet

[fluid grove]

What is colloquially known as a “skill issue”

[polar stag]

Grandma screaming and making my controller vibrate constantly getting kinda annoying.

[noble nacelle]

guys thoughts on the tech? (still act 1)

[pallid cargo]

Man... I got spoiled, but I still can't help but feel happy

[toxic horizon]

I love doing flea juggle and losing my focus because gms is tweaking out in the abyss

[scenic anvil]

Ur gonna want to when u realize that fight becomes nearly impossible in act 3

[slender lily]

what am i looking at rn i dont understand

[toxic horizon]

Hype for randos

[tawny igloo]

Wasn't hornet noisier in the trailer?

[north cipher]

the best speedrunners aint gonna waste time setting up an invincibly glitch, they will just play without getting hit

[toxic horizon]

Going into citadel through wisp thicket

[fluid grove]

Kid named toolspam

[slender lily]

OH THAT area, my bad

[ionic fern]

which fight?

[blissful tundra]

[north cipher]

which fight?

[noble nacelle]

it was found yesterday (to my knowledge) by @cofy_0 on youtube check him out

[safe yew]

Took tier list

[steel ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-hornet-hollow-knight-silk-song-gif-3602449200779206131

[slender lily]

thats pretty cool icl

[fluid grove]

cogfly too low

[safe yew]

[toxic horizon]

Curveclaw in C lmao, this has to be bait

[scenic anvil]

the one in deep docks which has a arena and a flea behind it. Basically in act 3 everything gets void and without removing void mass arena fight is impossible

[elfin prairie]

the hornet crafted silk shot is a damn railgun I’ll tell ya

[void moat]

snare setter in B....

[slender lily]

can you still get the upgraded curvesickle or whatever its called in act 3

[grand horizon]

I figured Heavy belt would be shit so I didn't really try it

[void moat]

yes thats when you get it

[drowsy hazel]

that's the original weaver silkshot

[leaden delta]

sawtooth in d tier ☹️

[toxic horizon]

You can only get it in act 3

[grand horizon]

Yes

[fluid grove]

Seriously though, gambling dice should be S

Literally a free combat charm in a combat-less slot

[alpine mica]

w ragebait

[slender lily]

where do i get the first one

[drowsy hazel]

it's literally steady body

[polar stag]

||GMS screaming, shaking the foundations of Pharloom, and destroying the world with Void silk threads.||

||Hornet: Imma play some games with the fleas||

[stone trail]

It's not though? I had to do that one in act 3 it was pretty easy...

[safe yew]

Tried it and could mever really get used to it ngl

[leaden delta]

unironically sawtooth is kinda really sexy you just need to play around it to get proper use

[safe yew]

I know im so sad I went with the worst one 😭

[fluid grove]

Hornet has priorities (being around soft and fluffy things)

[grand horizon]

Yeah, and I never really used steady body

[scenic anvil]

LMFAO r u sure u did the right one. Like did you enter from the simple key or far fields

[muted tangle]

guys i figured out how to get hornet to say shaw
||poSHAnka!||

[noble nacelle]

ok i finally triggered the act 2 thing

[slim thorn]

whats the one at the bottom? is the ss one?

[safe yew]

Its just steady body which is also broken

[toxic horizon]

Theres a dude hidden in the left of the tall room in hunters march, buy them from him

[leaden delta]

but you get extra good dps off it at full gear, and it's completely busted in low gear

[north cipher]

that sounds annoying but not impossible

[slender lily]

aight ty

[scenic anvil]

It’s literally near impossible

[glacial kelp]

never thought id see a tier list this big that id mostly agree with

[keen geode]

does sling charm half the dmg of tools or smth why is it bad

[scenic anvil]

I’ll find a vid

[safe yew]

If your talking about the one at the havent used tier I think its a steel soul exclusive

[raw ocean]

Real.

[toxic horizon]

Yeah its just a win more tool

[slim thorn]

you can live that easily
doing exactly that

[slender lily]

it uses two tools at once, but also “consumes” two of them yknow

[brittle elbow]

what's the knight's motivation again? i can't remember
man hornet's a more convincing protagonist

[noble nacelle]

I STILL HAVE THE GRAND GATE QUEST LMAO

[keen geode]

ohhh i c

[toxic horizon]

Helps with bursting enemies down

[safe yew]

Its fun but doesnt do much damage

[polar stag]

I have the ||delicate flower|| so I could end this any time now but I have journal entries to complete, 1 more spool fragment to track down, and like 4 more relics.

[elfin prairie]

to help out it’s sibling ig

[void moat]

sealing/destroying the radiance because of the pale king's wish

[glacial kelp]

it uses a lot of shards its functionally the same as using it twice

[void moat]

it oneshots basic enemies

[polar stag]

I also have a few more mementos to get

[stone trail]

I'm pretty sure I did both in act 3 lol.

[safe yew]

It doesnt it just becomes useless if you are able to tap fast enough lol

[keen geode]

ty

[glacial kelp]

like you can quicksling or you can throw twice

[bitter topaz]

why are they tryna cover naked hornet in white goo

[slender lily]

yeah its not HORRIBLE on the right build, but the two items follow almost the exact trajectory (from my experimenting) so it doesnt do lots except some more burst you couldve done half a second later. also it doesnt work with silkshots i think

[safe yew]

True actually didn't consider that id put it at bottom of A tier then

[keen geode]

ye

[grand horizon]

I liked Shakra's throwing discs just to help deal quick damage and keep pressure on bosses

[visual galleon]

bro my cousin is still playing this game 😭🎋

[scenic anvil]

oh wow good for u. That took me so long because everything did double damage, plus every enemy exploded after death and there’s like 4 of the void ones

[polar stag]

I have no clue what spool fragment I still need to get. I need like 1 more and idk where its at. I got the one in Mount Fay that requires silk soar

[toxic horizon]

Also the taunt changing makes it atleast a B tier on the spot

[visual galleon]

HELP

[glacial kelp]

who is actually using snare setter man

[slender lily]

where does the forge daughter silkshot rank out of the 3

[glacial kelp]

do you not lose it in act 3

[open silo]

can you tell which one was the hardest for me?

[keen geode]

2nd i think

[placid obsidian]

idk ||sherma gives you one?|| I'm not as far as everyone else but that's not one you actually find

[glacial kelp]

easily the worst from i know

[safe yew]

yay

[scenic anvil]

Does anyone know how to cheese this stupid back 3 boss, ||seth|| just a pure unfun boss

[vale urchin]

||https://x.com/JosephF62710202/status/1970114335579258880||
please tell me this post is fake

[toxic horizon]

Just wait for seth memento

[north cipher]

I still have no idea what you were on about. If youre trying to beat the game as fast as possible its faster to just win hitless than to set up an invincibility glitch. Are you dumbfound baiting because I am dumbfounded at how you think speed runners would ever feel the need to do that?

[slender lily]

dang 😔

[stone trail]

Magma bell helped alot for me tbh. I was using witch crest at tge time though and kept using the bind damage to one shot things.

[polar stag]

Act 3 Sherma? I think I got that but I'm not sure

[wind compass]

guys should I use my simple key on the guy in the prison in Sinner's Road or on the door in High Halls?

[manic latch]

there are no bosses or areas in this game that have managed to make me angrier than this fuckass flea dodging minigame

[noble nacelle]

gotta be dodge

[slender lily]

theres enough keys in the game for each door but i’d prolly do sinners road fella

[glacial kelp]

hi vog

[scenic anvil]

Magma bell won’t help much since the void still will do double damage

[brittle elbow]

"at least the pale king was thoughtful enough to make the buzzsaws deal only 1 damage"

[keen geode]

pro tip: ur supposed to move away from the fleas

[stone trail]

The void yea just helped with the fire attacks

[toxic horizon]

Flea juggle was harder than ll

[placid obsidian]

it's when you save him in ||whiteward|| or whatever as like an afterthought so probably

[safe yew]

Take a break from the game theres no way to cheese Seth unless you spam tools (if you do i recommend saw and tri fold needle)
Also dont diss Seth hes such a fun fight

[polar stag]

I also got the one under the Whiteward elevator

[worthy oxide]

So, what's the best use for the first shrimple key?

[glacial kelp]

tc did nerf this!

[vale urchin]

i got the simple key from the guy in sinner's road then just used that one to open up the guy's cage

[manic latch]

oh shiiii i never thought of that

[safe yew]

[noble nacelle]

advice: when they bounce the hitboxes disappear

[slender lily]

flea juggle was a struggle but it helped me realize the bliss of shaman crest

[noble nacelle]

ay thats cheating

[brittle elbow]

wait actually? lmao oof.

[slender lily]

yeah same, he may or may not be slightly relevant later

[north cipher]

fuck them fleas

[vale urchin]

where do you get the witch and shaman crest
i really wanna play a mage

[slender lily]

nuh uh

[brittle elbow]

fleas are cute wym

[scenic anvil]

LOOOL. “Fun fight”, a fight where u can only hit him once every 5 times he goes for you and has infinite health. He teleports anywhere he wants, he gets stuck inside the ground and u can’t hit him so u have to restart.

[noble nacelle]

dude the entirety of my first playthrough every hazard did 2 damage

[stone trail]

Why did team cherry only nerf things after I suffered through them

[toxic horizon]

Witch from cursed bud quest from greyroot, shaman from act 3

[manic latch]

oh ok i was wondering why they weren't dealing 2 damage today i thought i had gotten like a new ability or smth

[vale urchin]

wait

[scenic anvil]

There is no way u think ||seth|| is a fun fight

[fallow jewel]

ANYONE KNOW ANY SPeedeunning servers

[glacial kelp]

they nerfed a lot of environmental damage like carvers and gears

[safe yew]

Id do it in this order
Moss grotto then sinners road then deep docks

[last plover]

I feel like i stuck at art 2 but i dont wanna get spoiled

[vale urchin]

the root lady is cursed?

[placid obsidian]

so we can regale others of our tales like zote the mighty

[cedar cobalt]

Bilewater is my 3rd favorite area.

So far it goes from

1. Mount Fey
2. Cogwork core
3. Bilewater

[ionic fern]

what? It is not even hard

[stone trail]

he was for me

[toxic horizon]

Have you gone through bilewater yet?

[noble nacelle]

do all the quests

[vale urchin]

nope

[manic latch]

hes kinda awkward to dodge but its not too bad

[coral geode]

Shaman crest is exclusive to Act 3 and the witch crest is locked behind where you grab an item in Bilewater through a secret path from the Whispering Vaults and then you give it to Greyroot in Shellwood and then get cured by Yarnaby in Greymoor

[scenic anvil]

It ain’t it’s just annoying how is it fun

[placid obsidian]

ragebait 😔
although the ||wreath of purity|| makes it pretty easy tbh

[glacial kelp]

just a guess you like platforming

[safe yew]

You are in the minority

[toxic horizon]

Unironically based and relatable

[last plover]

Only the oil thingy left

[north cipher]

he looks cool tho

[vale urchin]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[scenic anvil]

I didn’t even call it a hard fight I called it unfun

[toxic horizon]

So you’ll have to wait a bit until you get the bud

[worthy oxide]

Why would you open the wormways though

[last plover]

Unfun fight is every arena i played

[scenic anvil]

⁉️ what they gotta do with the actual fight

[ionic fern]

Fun with hunter

[limpid bronze]

i’m really struggling should i use warding bell or injector band for shaman crest

[coral geode]

I would recommend just googling the witch crest stuff tbh it can get a little confusing

[vale urchin]

i'm still on the melodies

[north cipher]

he aura farms the fight into being fun

[stone trail]

When he's in the air i think I would dash toward him. Then jump the dash and pogo if he dove, his ground attacks are largely just jumps to avoid.

[scenic anvil]

If seth didn’t draw a shield then all my problems would have disappeared

[strong tendon]

the dude who designed ||Seth|| died before the game came out

[limpid bronze]

?

[toxic horizon]

Neither, volt filament, weavelight, and then something else

[cedar cobalt]

Bilewater is just so delicious. I love swamp areas and the lore of bile water. The platforming is awesome (i love platforming indeed). The boss was a bit boring however.

[glacial kelp]

the forum with 5 masks and no tools is less fun

[north cipher]

we need a 3rd trobbio fight

[limpid bronze]

yeah but like what

[vale urchin]

how long until i can play mage?

[fallow jewel]

Anyone know any ss speedrunning discords ?

[safe yew]

New crest new tool and most of the things in the deep docks cant be used until later in the game when you have clawline

[tight heath]

||Groal the great|| is pissing me off so much

[scenic anvil]

I am fine with the fight it’s just his teleport are like in predictable

[toxic horizon]

I like pin badge for spamming shaman charged attacks

[vale urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[glacial kelp]

you want an inv?

[fallow jewel]

yesss

[glacial kelp]

more quills!

[last plover]

2 second by me

[fallow jewel]

Dm pls

[north cipher]

EXACTLY

[scenic anvil]

He would teleport to you and its pretty much impossible to heal

[worthy oxide]

I like running volt, weavelight band

[stone trail]

Yeah I had to try my damndest to get my ass reaction speed to be enough

[safe yew]

We need to fight Tormented trobbio regular trobbio and groal the great all at the same time

[toxic horizon]

Dont let him get offscreen and he wont teleport as much

[coral geode]

If you want true mage the witch crest is not mage, you’re gonna have to wait for Act 3 to get Shaman crest

[cedar cobalt]

Thank you. I know many people hate it but I find it so fun. And I did it w/o ||wreath of purity||

[north cipher]

just heal mid air

[noble nacelle]

the only reason i dont like bilewater is because every time i try to run across a flat expanse one of the bush guys spawns on me and i take a guaranteed hit

[stone trail]

What crest you using?

[slender lily]

of those two, probably bell simply because you get so little heals (bc spell usage)

[scenic anvil]

@stone trail can u just tell me when im able to heal in the fight because he just hits me anytime i heal in air

[paper vapor]

In this arena

[toxic horizon]

Same, the music really helps with the feeling the area

[wind compass]

why th did they lock the last pale oil I need behind act 3😭

[safe yew]

Genius

[cold trellis]

Kill me

[chilly nexus]

I really want a clockwork dancers with a third, off beat dancer

[paper vapor]

Good to know

[scenic anvil]

Does not work lol he does his slam right after and follows up because the boss is random

[stark juniper]

chat is this real?( spoiler for final boss) ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VOUbW_gE-Q||

[chilly nexus]

still need that sisters if battle feeling

[wind compass]

np

[cold trellis]

Yeah, but you can’t get this ending normally

[scenic anvil]

reaper

[slender lily]

polyamorous robot bugs i love it

[cedar cobalt]

Yeah. That was the only enemy I found truly annoying. If they just didnt go back into the ground id find them more bearable

[toxic horizon]

Ending isnt actually in the game

[stark juniper]

how to get it tho?

[stone trail]

I used witch crest so I don't know all the timings for regular heals, however I mainly healed when he did the dash after his aoe dive slam thing.

[worthy oxide]

You can just float down to the roof of the church and then walljump to get there, no need to use the key. Plasmium is a pretty good option though, I'll probably get it later for overload

[stark juniper]

ohhh alr

[fallow jewel]

dm if you can

[scenic anvil]

oh fair Ty

[noble nacelle]

if they didnt pop up directly infront of where im going it would be nice too

[stone trail]

Yeah All my timing are like starting the heal mid combo so I hit the boss with the witch bind lol

[wind compass]

if I curse myself, do I need to get every single ending while cursed or is there only one ending that I can get while cursed?

[safe yew]

Oh didnt know that

[cedar cobalt]

I found it fun to pogo on those giant lizard things

[toxic horizon]

Only the act 2 ending

[stone trail]

only the one for gms

[glacial kelp]

only 1

[wind compass]

k thx

[safe yew]

Just one team cherry isnt that mean

[cedar cobalt]

Reaper crest go brrr

[noble nacelle]

the flying ones? if so yeah agreed

[loud pelican]

what is your most favourite HK/SS ost

[safe yew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1090643779121319999/1415808381180186736/attachment.gif

[cedar cobalt]

Ye, the flying ones

[stone trail]

Sealed Vessel

[twilit saddle]

choral chambersssssssss

[full halo]

UHM HELLO? I wake up the second sentinel and the grand rands I farm aren’t appearing anymore??

[loud pelican]

sameeeeeeee

[glacial kelp]

karmelita is pretty good

[toxic horizon]

Cogwork core for ss, sealed vessel for hk

[wind compass]

"TC isn't that mean"
meanwhile double damage:

[twilit saddle]

oh wait hmmmmm

[cold trellis]

You can’t by normal means. You gotta mess with the file or some

[last plover]

Also changing crest u need to relearn attack pattern, i just stick to hunter

[slender lily]

high halls, queens gardens

[safe yew]

Double damage is necessary trust without it the game becomes so boring

[twilit saddle]

double damage is overexaggerated, the heal more than makes up for it

[coral geode]

I think there’s a mod you can download

[stone trail]

Choral chambers is amazing I just can't get over the impact of SV

[cedar cobalt]

Reaper for platforming Hunters for boss fights. Or ||Machinist|| if I feel like tool spamming

[last plover]

Without double damage u just spam heal and win

[wind compass]

true, the game revolves around enemies doing double dmg

[loud pelican]

Sealed Vessel has the biggest impact for me (as a boss theme)

[glacial kelp]

weakness of the mind simply adapt

[safe yew]

[stone trail]

I just wish it wasn't every fuckin enemy lol

[noble nacelle]

its annoying that it displays 5hp when realistically you only have 3

[full halo]

Reaper is superior in boss fights tho?

[cedar cobalt]

Cogwork core

[safe yew]

Although I prefer witch's for bosses cause im crazy

[cold trellis]

Cogwork core sounds unreasonably good

[toxic horizon]

Witch for platforming, witch for bossfights, witch for heal spamming

[wind compass]

Grimm Troupe, Cogwork dancers (not too many memorable songs in silksong tbh)

[north cipher]

when he does his spin jump you have a chance to heal, especially if you use quick bind

[bitter topaz]

why are they tryna cover naked hornet in white goo

[slender lily]

shaman for platforming

[glacial kelp]

it means that multibind is useful

[toxic horizon]

I wish I struggled more on the parkour so I could listen to the music more

[twilit saddle]

you could say that about any health system that does more than 1 damage at a time

[safe yew]

Yeah it was definitely overdone in the first release in the game but I think they toned it down to a more reasonable point in the two patches

[grand horizon]

She's literally a black stick figure bro

[wind compass]

M-Machinist?
did you mean Architect??

[glacial kelp]

bilewater and karmelita?

[noble nacelle]

phantom for ss, the grimm troupe for hk

[cold trellis]

Machinist 😭

[cedar cobalt]

Yes

[twilit saddle]

wanderer is my go to for platforming, the path of pain in me comes out

[wind compass]

barely been in bilewater (js stumbled onto it and the fuckass baby) and haven't entered act 3 yet

[glacial kelp]

ive seen like 50 variants of this image

[summer sigil]

Genuinely whats the purpose for spider hornet item other than make her look cool

[stone trail]

I mean I'm glad its not 90% of hazard now, still annoyed that most enemies have a double damage attack tho. I probably will be annoyed about it forever.

[loud pelican]

only downside is in boss fight the boss may dodge your bind

[slender lily]

scuttlebrace?

[noble nacelle]

to dash backwards

[last plover]

Anyone finish the torture farfield arena?

[toxic horizon]

I can’t wait for actually hard platforming in silksong

[wind compass]

Maschinist
Thats not even a word
wait yes it is

[noble nacelle]

which one 😭

[stone trail]

I believe scuttle is faster the turning around

[bitter topaz]

Im not talking about irl im talking about the slab enemies

[cedar cobalt]

After pop nothing can stop me

[summer sigil]

Yea

[slender lily]

masochist…

[cold trellis]

Witch crest is not that good for super mobile boss (LL for example)

[glacial kelp]

oh thats fair
phantom choral chambers and coggies arent bad
hf with bilewater

[last plover]

The one that require harpoon

[twilit saddle]

same its gonna be so fun. the ascent to the surface was ok but I wanna suffer

[stone trail]

yes... sadly

[grand horizon]

Yeah IK

[north cipher]

dont wish that upon yourself

[toxic horizon]

Use the tool that makes heals faster

[loud pelican]

cough Nameless Town cough

[noble nacelle]

idk but i got 100% so prolly

[leaden delta]

fucking I wish

[safe yew]

Yeah thats why quick bind is basically needed for it

[slender lily]

extra mobility i guess, but not too good considering you can run and dash backwards

[summer sigil]

Ig i'll try dat

[leaden delta]

I’m figuring stuff out right now actually

[wind compass]

I'll drop into bilewater to fight Phantom soon anyways, I'll see then

[toxic horizon]

That was free ngl, PoP was way easier

[stone trail]

For LL I used the bind after hitting her parry lol

[last plover]

Those firespitting bullshit deal 2 damage

[loud pelican]

even with quick bind, they keep teleporting, I can't timed it right

[toxic horizon]

Or wait for her to do her dashes

[twilit saddle]

it was kinda like a segment of PoP or white palace

[last plover]

Its primal aspid cancer +

[leaden delta]

like MAYBE wp difficulty and it was also infinitely worse than wp platforming wise

[safe yew]

Yeah it takes a while to get used to

[noble nacelle]

hardest thing ive done so far is grapple-less mount fay but im hoping for sumth more in dlc

[vital saffron]

every boss with hunter and every boss with reaper is done

reaper is so ass

[stone trail]

at times yes, I couldn't get the height right tho

[fresh dagger]

That’s the act 4 map right?

[glacial kelp]

yes thats why its called bilewater

[loud pelican]

funny that Nameless town is not in the spoiler filter

[noble nacelle]

NOOOOO

[stone trail]

how did you do moss mother with reaper?

[wind compass]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-reaper-crest-jjk-gif-13756134446810053170

[toxic horizon]

Agreed, give me like celeste esque platforming segments

[finite lava]

how do I know iv collected all ||fleas||? they moved in to ||fleatopia|| am I missing any?

[leaden delta]

it was not a final test of agility it was a gimmick check for how comfortable you were with clawline which felt like it should have been put pretty near where you got clawline

[cedar cobalt]

Tried it when I got crawline, gave up, got feydown cloak and did it in one try

[fresh dagger]

Talk to vog

[twilit saddle]

bossing with reaper is actual hard mode

[noble nacelle]

idk talk to them see if they ask for more

[leaden delta]

I fucking hate that platforming section. it’s so goddamn boring

[glacial kelp]

egg of fleaia, you can be missing up to 8 i think

[stone trail]

wtf is Nameless town

[slim thorn]

if i do ||early shaman without silk soar|| can i get out?

[loud pelican]

if you found that Fleas lady, she will mark them on the map and when you talk to her, she will confirmed if you collect all of them

[vital saffron]

im using the godhome mod to do a pantheon of pharloom for every boss in a row with no rests, im using no tools except on architect

i just tp to every boss after i beat one with the crest i already have

[wind compass]

what u talkin about?

[safe yew]

I need to find more silksong slanders because thjs is such a good gif

[toxic horizon]

Its just experience with using witch, I’ve used witch since I got it in mid act 2, so I have a lot of experience

[loud pelican]

Act 3 location

[north cipher]

ERM YOU TECHNICALLY CANT DO EVERY BOSS WITH REAPER (useless youre flithy)

[twilit saddle]

I saw that some people say, you wanderer to reap and use reaper to wander

[noble nacelle]

nah bruh thats not that bad im looking for like PoP 5 times over difficulty or more hopefully

[stone trail]

same lol, im just bad

[leaden delta]

Surface climb

[glacial kelp]

lowkey free

[toxic horizon]

Witch is the most skill reliant crest ngl

[vital saffron]

im using the godhome mod for every boss in a row, i just tp to every boss with reaper crest on

[stone trail]

I got 100% but havent got there ;-;

[fresh dagger]

Witch crest has pretty slashes

[loud pelican]

not for me 😭

[twilit saddle]

I woulda thought it'd be beast

[loud pelican]

do the mushroom man quest

[grand niche]

The fact that this silly little bug game made by 3 guys and a dream crashed every single platform's stores, and embarrassed multiple corporate cockheads by pricing it at 20 dollars because its a crazy idea for literal pass-times to have fun not to be priced as much as 4 packs of Walmart brand water is crazy

[twilit saddle]

tf did I reply to lol m

[toxic horizon]

The pogos are so nice

[cedar cobalt]

Listen, ive beatened the hardest Mario maker levels. Platforming is a drug i can't get over.

[safe yew]

Beast also

[twilit saddle]

I don't like witch pogo that much, at least for platforming

[stone trail]

Very skill reliant but also extremely rewarding

[vital saffron]

the ONE upside of reaper in a pantheon is that you can hit bell eater through its talons with long claw

[wind compass]

Don't really know what you're talking about, I'm guessing its some endgame stuff

[cold trellis]

I don’t like the look of this at all

[toxic horizon]

Meh, I like the skip potential of beast but its just a bit boring

[static patrol]

Me brochacho

[polar stag]

trying to find this last damn spool fragment is gonna give me an aneurysm

[loud pelican]

tbh the only thing that TC did bad, is naming stuff

[noble nacelle]

dude same ive spent more than half my life doing platforming in video games im getting too good

[north cipher]

this game isnt silly its serious! this shit took me like 30 minutes with the beast crest

[lethal cape]

Ok so like what do I do I just watched a yt vid and checked every single spot for mask shard and I have all of them yet still im 1 short

[terse knot]

is there a way NOT to ||freeze to death|| on ||mount fae||

[glacial kelp]

like charge attack storage???

[stone trail]

There's a mr mushroom quest?

[grand niche]

Game about bugs.

[loud pelican]

yep

[noble nacelle]

hack

[toxic horizon]

Yea

[glacial kelp]

get to the top!

[sacred trout]

Yes, very much endgame exclusive

[cold trellis]

In my experience, it likely you are missing the one in Mosshome (Bone bottom)

[last plover]

Thats the problem u use beast crest for playform

[stone trail]

how tf do you do that lol

[strong tendon]

beating it

[glacial kelp]

thats the ONLY reason you like beast is a bug is crazy

[north cipher]

DONT SAY THIS IS EASY UNTIL YOU SHOW ME YOUR OWN CLIP OF YOU DOING THIS

[static patrol]

Oh God wait there's a fleafather??? I don't even wanna play ss man don't do what the other one did 🙏💔💔

[vital saffron]

stand in the warm spots, using flintlsate actually gives you some extra time

[twilit saddle]

when TC releases a platforming challenge the real challenge run with be with beast crest

[loud pelican]

just search it up

[lethal cape]

Which mod let's u only add 1 mask shard or smth

[terse knot]

gotcha gotcha

[toxic horizon]

Dude same, I didn’t notice the breakable wall when I did it in the first 5 hours of the game

[north cipher]

its a beast crest only run (except for the 4 bosses you have to beat before it)

[noble nacelle]

dude idk i was joking mb

[toxic horizon]

I mean, beast is kinda just a worse witch crest for me

[glacial kelp]

nah ping me here ill do this tmr

[last plover]

I see

[cold trellis]

The spike made me too frustrated to notice 😔

[polar stag]

I got that one

[noble nacelle]

do you mean in bone bottom or mosshome?

[twilit saddle]

for me it was the one in whiteward since you've gotta gimmick the elevator

[glacial kelp]

you can afford to be super aggro with beast which is fun

[lethal cape]

lol I was only asking cuz I am genuinely fed up I went up to mount fay twice just to make sure and the bile water stuff is pure nightmare fuel atp

[polar stag]

are there any besides the Mount Fay one you need silk soar for?

[paper vapor]

Yay beat GMS! Now to get to act 3 and do all that stuff, so basically another 30-40 hours

[toxic horizon]

Witch becomes way crazier in the endgame too, sylphsong and full spool fragments make you have 2 free nukes at the start of every boss

[polar stag]

nope. got the one under the whiteward elevator

[loud pelican]

I need Hornet mod but instead as spider, she is a Vessels

[slim thorn]

wait it removed my scuttle how am i getting out

[twilit saddle]

that nuke is so addicting

[glacial kelp]

you dont need silk soar for any spools if thats what youre saying

[toxic horizon]

I mean thats true for witch too, you need to be aggro to heal nuke

[last plover]

Btw how do u guys farm shard

[loud pelican]

silk soar

[weary gorge]

I beat lost lace and im kinda sad now cause on one hand I was trying to get through the game but on the other hand I didnt want it to end

[slim thorn]

I DONT HAVE THAT

[polar stag]

it might've been a mask fragment

[gloomy delta]

what crest shld I use for steel soul?

[toxic horizon]

I love using multibinder+claw mirrors with it

[noble nacelle]

buy from shop at bellhart

[paper vapor]

Also ngl I might just look up flea locations, cause after 30 hours I just got half of them 💀

[stone trail]

My favorite part of witch is the fuckin flashbang when you heal

[timid plinth]

i farm rosaries then i buy bundles

[noble nacelle]

whichever one youre best at my guy

[loud pelican]

just call Bell Beast child

[glacial kelp]

its aggro in a different way though, witch is positional aggro but beast you can just damage tank lmao

[twilit saddle]

same, only a few non-boss enemies can tank it and live

[cold trellis]

Definitely not beast

[slim thorn]

THANKS I FORGOT

[last plover]

I see thanks@timid plinth @noble nacelle

[toxic horizon]

I hate having a max of 20 bundles

[short hawk]

silk soar :)

[weary gorge]

Its both the downside, the upside, and the coolest part about withc other than the whip and multihit lol

[slim thorn]

IT DOESNT WORK

[twilit saddle]

lol

[paper vapor]

AHHHHHHHHH

[loud pelican]

lmao

[open path]

The Architects Crest lifestyle

[toxic horizon]

Yeah, I just find witch to be a more skillful and enjoyable crest than beast

[twilit saddle]

wait are you in the abyss? explore more

[glacial kelp]

i should refight ll with reaper icl

[loud pelican]

well just save and exit

[wind compass]

Architect if you can get enough shell shards and upgrade your tool kit, Hunter is just balanced, and wanderer while you level up Architect.

Reaper should be fine if you dont wanna use hunter before you get wanderer, and Witch + Shaman are just if you like them (Witch is pretty powerful tho)

[loud pelican]

it will save for you but spawn you to the most recent bench

[glacial kelp]

no i get it it requires different intuition than the others

[noble nacelle]

dude ikr i have max rosary necklaces, max big rosary necklaces, max shard bundles, and 3k in my back pocket

[north cipher]

So? Its a fantasy world, its not any different than a game where everyone is wizards. There are silly moments but the plot of this game takes itself very seriously. Youre traveling through a cursed kingdom to set it free.

[loud pelican]

oh lmao

[toxic horizon]

Objectively architect is the most safe crest for steel soul

[cold trellis]

You do know that slow attack speed is the most dangerous disadvantage when you fight a boss that is super mobile right?

[gloomy delta]

yeah that's what I was thinking

[last plover]

Shaw

[weary gorge]

Id say they both demand a lot from you honestly

I feel like witch is maybe easier to use than beast honestly

[twilit saddle]

doesn't upgraded hunter have some of the best output assuming you're running hitless?

[glacial kelp]

ive beaten ll with every crest, my first one was reaper i want to see the difference

[open path]

I've been using Architect for the majority of Act 2 and all of Act 3 so far, I'd also recommend picking up the Plasmium Phial for uh reasons

[toxic horizon]

I mean, you just kinda damage tank with beast

[cold trellis]

Alright go ahead then

[slim thorn]

do i have to load an autosave due to this?
i feel scammed

[north cipher]

Tragically, she doesnt say that once in this game

[weary gorge]

Yeah, if you run hunter, go hittless, and barbed its wild

[noble nacelle]

dude i wish they added a HoG to this game on first release cuz i wanna radiant all the bosses 😭

[last plover]

Do other crest also get upgraded?

[buoyant sphinx]

question, what exactly am i supposed to expand? i have gotten so many abilities and stuff and every time she tells me to come back later

[vital saffron]

ARCHITECT'S NEEDLEART GOT STEALTH NERFED

[toxic horizon]

Witch you have to wait for a perfect opening just to heal

[short hawk]

🙏

[north cipher]

use memory lockets

[twilit saddle]

dont believe so

[weary gorge]

I havent seen that be successful tbh. Hits tend to end the lifesteal effect

[glacial kelp]

hog like vog

[safe yew]

Memory lockets

[cold trellis]

Get all the crests and unlock their slot via memory locket

[short hawk]

get all crests and most memory lockets

[toxic horizon]

I mean, its just to balance it with charged hits giving silk

[noble nacelle]

yo i love vog

[wind compass]

yea I'd say
Hunter > Reaper (optional [well this entire thing is optional so really personal preference]) > Wanderer > Architect (once you get good tools, max out Architect, and max out your tool kit)

[buoyant sphinx]

thanks guys

[stone trail]

FLASHBANG (act 3 final boss)

[bright compass]

I like witch crest so much guys
Its so fun
I use twin mirrors too :)

[toxic horizon]

Based

[vital saffron]

absolutely based no tools only parry

[weary gorge]

Reaper is under and overrated at the same time. It definetly is good when you need more reach

[twilit saddle]

witch crest makes me think of HK's Up Magic attack

[noble nacelle]

for my second run im doing no tools hunter crest lol

[glacial kelp]

shriek? literally how

[stone trail]

I dont use tools anyway so I took them off

[grand pilot]

you need to unlock crests and expand the crests tools with memory lockets

[vital saffron]

reaper is ASS

[cold trellis]

Am I the only one who hit lace while she is airborne and using that tentacle attack?

[slim thorn]

fine i gave up
if anybody has a solution tell me

[weary gorge]

Beautiful

[north cipher]

A lot of people write off beast crest as being bad but it just takes getting used to and then its actually pretty fun

[wind compass]

thats why I said personal preference. I understand Reaper is ass but I still use it cuz I vibe with it. So I suggested it if the guy wants to use it or not

[noble nacelle]

i did too

[glacial kelp]

i always upslash that

[twilit saddle]

big boom damage that makes you stationary and requires a small amount of positioning to get off optimally....

[frigid finch]

oh my god what the hell do you do ive literally been walking around dying and doing nothing for like 5 hours straight oh my god

i swear im going to lose my mind

[noble nacelle]

what is your goal

[glacial kelp]

wouldnt thread storm make more sense though…

[weary gorge]

I dont think reaper is ass at all. I think the long reach is very obviously useful and i think people are missing the point about it fr

[toxic horizon]

Its a good opening, I prefer her triple dashes though

[stone trail]

I dont have great reactions so I try to play safer

[vital saffron]

getting the vessel crest in act 4 that lets you use void spells is really good idk why i dont see ppl use it

[twilit saddle]

meh

[frigid finch]

find any new area at all or find anything new

[north cipher]

Although I think if they took away its silk skill or one of the red slots for a blue slot thatd be amazing

[noble nacelle]

yeah bro its my main idk why nobody does

[weary gorge]

People underestimate how huge a benefit range is. It lowers the skill floor imo, more room for error

[noble nacelle]

go right in docks

[tribal hare]

https://youtu.be/5yYSETlz6pM the clip of all time

[wind compass]

its great for spacing with its long reach and knockback. Coupled with its silk ability, its the best defensive crest in the game imo but probably the worst out of all the crests

[short hawk]

if you have sprint then the map should open up a lot

[toxic horizon]

Okay but witch has a lot of range too

[twilit saddle]

you underestimate how much getting 4 swings in with wanderer during your invuln window after taking damage lowers the skill floor

[weary gorge]

You're on drugs

[steel ibex]

Can beastfly actually be voided btw

[bright compass]

nice

[weary gorge]

Jk dont ban me mods

[frigid finch]

i swear im missing like the big room with the silksong mantis claws and the sprint button i swear it has to be one room cause ive been ALL OVER what map i have

[toxic horizon]

If left till act 3 yes

[twilit saddle]

you gotta quit there

[wind compass]

what mods😂

[steel ibex]

Actually evil

[tribal hare]

@ mods

[somber ginkgo]

Why

[weary gorge]

I think beast is prob worst. High theoretical ttk potential but hard to use moveset with not a lot of benefit

[north cipher]

https://youtu.be/l5l4sQ4oito?si=W4HqJAo2lz95eA5L

[toxic horizon]

Funny

[twilit saddle]

I saw that the adds for the lava bros can be voided

[glacial kelp]

send this guy to the slab

[glacial kelp]

wait the quest? i thought it was required lowk

[weary gorge]

Wasn't saying wanderer is bad, just saying reaper is good. I havent used reaper much tbh I went witch all game until lost lace where I used hunter

[noble nacelle]

that is criminal

[frigid finch]

i cant find it i cant find ANYTHING im going to LOSE IT

[frigid finch]

give me a hint

[weary gorge]

But reaper is good for sure, I only say I didnt use it much so I dont seem like a reaper simp lmao

[twilit saddle]

gotcha gotcha. I meant what I said previously as kinda jokish since its a bit cheesy

[wind compass]

https://tenor.com/view/silksong-reaper-crest-jjk-gif-13756134446810053170

[torpid moth]

does plasmified zango have any reward

[silver nacelle]

Lol. Shaman has the highest damage per single attack in the game.

[glacial kelp]

idts

[wind compass]

thought it was witch

[noble nacelle]

the thing that has lines on it in the top middle

[glacial kelp]

not even close no

[tribal hare]

it;s fucking insane

[silver nacelle]

Nope. Witch is second highest, but you get lifesteal.

[short hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-reaper-crest-the-mist-greymoor-gif-13464358243469655364

[glacial kelp]

funny that nart arch used to be higher

[stone trail]

I think Volt Shaman Thread storm is highest damage attack

[unique pine]

Do you guys think ss will win goty? Or e33? Looks like a tough competition

[viral flower]

They nerfed engineer crest?

[twilit saddle]

platforming is arguably where reaper crest users should have an easier time tho lol

[silver nacelle]

Volt shaman threadstorm dealt 224 BEFORE THE VOLT FILAMENT BUFF.

[north cipher]

I dont understand Reaper crest hate, its pogo is really good and you get tons of silk with it

[weary gorge]

I getcha. Witch and Hunter are probably my favorite, followed by beast. Ill probably fight lost lace a bunch with all the crests soon since I already beat the game lol

[tribal hare]

it's so true

[noble nacelle]

me when wanderer crest

[short hawk]

you'd think so

[wind compass]

key word: "average"
I, unlike you, am not the average player

[stone trail]

Don't call me a heretic but I'm gonna vote for E33

[toxic horizon]

91 damage charged to 61, but you get silk on all 5 hits

[twilit saddle]

I think at this point it really depends on the judges

[tribal hare]

I KNOW

[mossy iris]

Yh but I don't record..

[dreamy lichen]

Raging Conchfly is so fun

[silver nacelle]

How much could it do?

[twilit saddle]

mods get this guy

[glacial kelp]

like 160 ish barely more than 150 from witch

[viral flower]

Kalshi has it definitively going to e33

[weary gorge]

"Diagonal pogo is so ass omg horrible game design"

[stone trail]

I didn't need to suffer through the difficulty of E33 man, I could actually just enjoy it.

[cold trellis]

I reached raging conchfly when I had ONE mask. But I still won and recovered to full mask because that how easy the boss is

[cloud kraken]

Both conchfly fights are underrated tbh

[glacial kelp]

is this like a polymarket derivative

[toxic horizon]

Tf is kalshi

[viral flower]

Kalshi is bigger than poly market.

[dreamy lichen]

Like its fast-paced but also a very fair fight

[silver nacelle]

Bruh. Shaman did 224 with volt threadstorm before volt filament got buffed in the recent patch.

[short hawk]

lucky you then, you're in the top 10%? 12%? idk I'm not a reaper crest user

[glacial kelp]

i only know about it from the us election drama

[dreamy lichen]

Every time i got hit it was definitely a mistake i made and not a bs minion summoned

[frigid finch]

omw to the second entrance

[short hawk]

real

[static turtle]

You can use the attack to grap the silk balls, I ended up finding that out pretty early, either way I still don't use reaper at all anymore

[slim thorn]

ok

[stone trail]

How much damage does Multibinder Twin mirror Witch bind even do total?

[plain imp]

honestly the controller breaking part of this game isnt the bosses its the boss walk backs

[mortal bluff]

Citadel areas ranked:

1. Cogwork Core
2. Whispering Vaults
3. Choral Chambers
4. High halls
5. Whiteward
6. Memorium

[static turtle]

The hunters pogo is great for combat

[twilit saddle]

While I think that is very subjective and different for every person, I found the difficult sections in SS to be more enjoyable than the difficult sections in E33. That said, i think E33 probably broke more ground in untreaded territory, so it'll likely get it just for that

[viral flower]

Whiteward is like “oh we are doing bug eugenics”

[weary gorge]

I was being sarcastic lol hunters crest is great for everything imo

[dreamy lichen]

The atmosphere in Whiteward was amazing

[cloud kraken]

High halls above memorium and whiteward?

[toxic horizon]

Also hk never got anything at tga, so I imagine they will now

[static turtle]

Cogwork core mostly because of soundtrack, but also has bias points from me because I used wanderer crest to pogo on top the gears instead of using clawline

[slim thorn]

did they remove the mouse cursor on that cutscene??

[cold trellis]

I wish the unraveled boss was more than what Was shown. All that build up and it another mid ass boss 💔

[viral flower]

Yeah but tbf back in those days indies never got anything. It’s a different world now

[stone trail]

It is very subjective I'll admit that, I wanted to just uninstall silksong at times, even cried at one point because my ass just couldn't do it.

[twilit saddle]

Yeah I think both games will get awards regardless

[silver nacelle]

The only bad part about running a shaman build is that your opportunities to heal are abysmal.

[manic perch]

Hey guys, does Sherma enjoy Peanut Butter?

[weary estuary]

Yes

[worthy oxide]

I still don't get why TC nerfed parry

[viral flower]

You gotta remember people who vote on game awards are 35-60 year old boomers. They skew E33.

[vivid belfry]

do not feel bad about cheesing what I did but this was actually mostly legit

[static turtle]

They could upgrade him in a dlc,unlike a returning boss with more to offer, whether it be giving him terrain that drains your silk (you would have to be on the walls to avoid it)

[noble nacelle]

where shoul i go nex to progress? i have no idea where i should go

[weary estuary]

gg how many hours was it

[cloud kraken]

The spears are cool but all the main attacks feel kinda lame, I feel like it didn't fully use its concept well

[short zealot]

alright I just died 13 hours into my steelsoul run to fucking ignis and siegfried because I hit one which shattered my fractured mask and then immediately pushed me into the lava killing me before I could save and quit, who wants to decide my method of suicide(this is a joke btw, hard to believe I know)

[stone trail]

I'm 22 and I was gonna vote...

[vivid belfry]

like 19 and a half?

[weary estuary]

Oh wow that's so great

[manic tree]

Right of deep docks

[viral flower]

The fan vote is only 10%. The 60 outlets is 90% of the vote (where the boomers are)

[worthy oxide]

Parry used to damage if you parried an attack and hit the enemy, but in SS it does literally nothing except looks cool. What even is the point lol

[stone trail]

Ah gotcha

[cloud kraken]

You should go to hell

[gloomy delta]

what movement abilities are required for wanderer crest?

[short zealot]

Go to deepnest

[slim thorn]

can you reach up there with beast crest?

[noble nacelle]

im just tryna get some help lmao whaaaat

[stone trail]

jump

[viral flower]

Do the bugs normally eat other bugs or is that just a chef dude cannibal thing

[noble nacelle]

oh ok thx

[stone trail]

... Nuu?

[inland wind]

My favourite part about the Citadel

1. Anti homeless bench
2. Anti homeless prayer machine
3. Sherma
4. Anti homeless silk dispenser
5. Anti homeless bench

[slim thorn]

-_-

[manic tree]

What in hk? Parties didn't do damage in hk either

You can use the ||Silk parry|| ability if you want to do damage

[fresh dagger]

I can confirm that not all bugs are vegetarian

[twilit saddle]

it's a bug eat bug world out there

[toxic horizon]

They’re like cattle, they arent sentient

[manic perch]

Don’t listen to the git gud crowd. This is a difficult exploration game, not a difficult ranked game. In games like this your not cheesing it, your just playing it correctly

[viral flower]

[cloud kraken]

Hell is where you unlock the triple jump trust

[gloomy delta]

what movement abilities are required for wanderer crest?

[stone trail]

Enough to do wormways I guess

[fresh dagger]

Dash

[ripe bison]

u need double jump and 20 masks

[twilit saddle]

it's all about achieving something you find personally rewarding anyhow. Other people shouldn't have a say in that

[steel ibex]

They should update this emote it’s not accurate

[fresh dagger]

Although you could probably make it across without dash

[inland wind]

go back to dirtmouth

[noble nacelle]

done

[cold trellis]

Save and quit trick ✌️

[worthy oxide]

Wait, I could've sworn they dealt damage in HK. I kinda just want to parry (regular, not skill) but you either get absolutely nothing out of it, or eat contact damage because the move you parried is forward advancing. Not sure how to use it except as a panic option

[twilit saddle]

didnt the devs endorse that as valid too?

[uncut flint]

heyy umm so I bought ||silkshot|| from ||twelth architecte|| but I dont have it? I also didnt get any dialogue about it after purchasing, anyone know?

[manic tree]

It is infact cheesing to save scum in steel soul that avoids the entire purpose of steel soul

If you're doing it just for the achievement idc tho

[vivid belfry]

the only parts I save scummed were at Tormented Trobbio, who will sometimes just fuck you over with no recourse, and the new boss with no telegraphs or silk generation

[cold trellis]

Maybe, but still, that defeats the whole purpose of steel soul. But there is no way I’m completing steel soul without that

[vivid belfry]

team cherry what did you mean by this

[twilit saddle]

POE HC Logout debate flashbacks

[manic perch]

Well that’s different, that’s literally going outside in profile gameplay. Im not saying it’s right or wrong, but different from what Im talking about

[vivid belfry]

I fundamentally don't feel bad about cheesing steel soul in general because it's a lazily designed challenge mode with a massive timesink attached to it

[inland wind]

lowk might as well as take it as a blessing, twelfth architect silk shot is little suboptimal to put it nicely

[manic tree]

But that's what the message you replied to was talking abt

[toxic horizon]

Both non fay silkshots are ngl

[twilit saddle]

if TC cared enough about the steel soul thing they woulda made it impossible to do that. Clearly by the game's standards it's ok to do that and setting any loftier restrictions on it is doneso by the community rather than the game

[uncut flint]

oh, but that's a bug, yeah? Like where should it be

[vivid belfry]

forge daughter shot has more total damage than fay

[worthy oxide]

I mean, what's the point of a self imposed challenge if you're going to ignore the challenge altogether?

[inland wind]

In your inventory

[toxic horizon]

But its harder to use to its full potential, also silk railgun is cool as fuck

[cold trellis]

Fr, if TC wanted, they could’ve easily patch the save and quit thing but they didn’t

[uncut flint]

wait, are 12th arcitect and the deep docks lady silkshots different ?

[stone trail]

ye

[manic tree]

It's impossible not to do that though because people will need to leave the game at points and they won't have any save spots near them at points so save scumming has to be allowed really

[uncut flint]

in tools?? or like my regular inventory

[lofty harbor]

I haven’t played this game yet.

[cold trellis]

Yep

[toxic horizon]

Theres 3 different silkshots

[weary gorge]

is there an achievement for getting the cursed ending of act 2

[inland wind]

Tools inventory

[vivid belfry]

I might be misremembering but I feel like it's also faster than fay, but yeah the latter easily wins the style competition

[cold trellis]

12th architect is better

[toxic horizon]

Yes

[weary estuary]

Yes

[inland wind]

They gotta buff the non-fay silkshots

[uncut flint]

ok that's lwk unfortunate cuz i dfef didnt get it

[manic tree]

There's also a 3rd one in ||mount fay||

[limpid bronze]

hot take not really a big fan of the crest system (red tools are just cringe) so i like shaman but i would rather just use my nail so like. wish beast crest was act usable.

[twilit saddle]

well it's not impossible, just improbable and really depends on the devs if they allow pausing during combat or platforming

[uncut flint]

oh wtf i swear i went thru that whole thing

[toxic horizon]

Buff all silkshots, they get outperformed by act 1 tools

[weary gorge]

okay good so I have an excuse to play through the game again one more time before I attempt steel soul

[manic tree]

It's not an npc it's a crafting table

[vivid belfry]

if team cherry wanted me to engage with their challenge mode in earnest they should have made it worth engaging with

[twilit saddle]

I personally enjoyed it just for the varying movesets and playstyles. I was mostly nail-only but enjoyed having tools for enemies I didn't particularly want to fight at any given moment

[slim thorn]

you can skip this with scuttle!

[uncut flint]

oh i love the crafting tables theyre so goated

[worthy oxide]

Technically, they could save the current gamestate and force you to load back into the exact same situation in steel soul, or set a 3-5 second timer until you can exit (you could just alt f4 though)

[short hawk]

make another mode that challenges you to get as few items and upgrades as possible...

[manic tree]

Isn't steel soul locked behind a secret anyway? Maybe it's still going to be added on

[weary gorge]

I think the challenge is what makes it fun. That's the reward, is doing the thing. But I don't see an issue cheesing it, because my entire argument is about fun anyways lol

[cold trellis]

Hot take indeed, what wrong with tools?

[worthy oxide]

You can just not play it lol

[weary estuary]

There's the code or you can just beat the game

[uncut flint]

I assume since i've bought it I can't go get it again or what?

[manic tree]

Oh ok

[limpid bronze]

yeah but here’s my issue whenever i lose a fight i just switch to wanderer or reaper and immediately win

[vivid belfry]

I intend to do that now that I have the achievement for it

[toxic horizon]

Im not a big fan of the charm system(spells are just cringe) so I like dash slash but I would rather just use my nail

[twilit saddle]

like yeah, that's the only logical conclusion from that line of thinking lol

[manic tree]

Yeahh you cant

[inland wind]

I do like the laser one ngl

[pale bane]

just finished the game to the true ending, holy shit

[uncut flint]

i didnt even get it in the first place ts pmo 😒

[weary gorge]

Beast Crest is usable imo, but I will say tools are pretty cool. Some of them are not OP, like the straight throwing knife. Makes you feel like a straight up ninja lol

[inland wind]

Very useful in boss fights where the boss doesn’t want to stay in needle range

[limpid bronze]

yeah what i dislike is that whenever i lose i just switch to wanderer and immediately win i swear its just easy mode

[twilit saddle]

that's funny to me cause I struggle with reaper altho wanderer can feel like easy mode at times

[manic tree]

You can go back your save file tho theres a reload button under it in the menu

[toxic horizon]

Probably because you havent learned how to use those crests

[vivid belfry]

spending up to 20 hours per attempt on a run where you can die this easily is just not feasible for almost anybody

[thorny iris]

....

[inland wind]

How much damage does witch crest do anyways

[weary gorge]

Also I LOVE flintstone or whatever it is. Way sick. Don't care as much for flea juice tho

[toxic horizon]

If you just give up the second you start to struggle, you wont improve

[vivid belfry]

all crests' basic attacks do basically the same damage

[inland wind]

Steel soul death?

[bleak lark]

theres more than forge daughter and 12th architect silkshot version??

[weary estuary]

I hate the fact you need to go back and refill stuff

[stiff briar]

lol at people feeling guilty at not wanting to steel soul? touch grass my dudes

[weary gorge]

pretty solid damage. You have to learn to hit your heal attack though

[cold trellis]

I can’t think of a single situation where you would need flea juice

[limpid bronze]

idk i feel like im too adhd so when i think about other stuff like using red tools or using spells i play worse

[thorny iris]

yep

[uncut flint]

oh thank u

[weary gorge]

worst part about flea juice tbh

[inland wind]

I mean the heal damage

[weary estuary]

Yeah its why I never used it

[vivid belfry]

oh, fucktons

[toxic horizon]

You can find a room under where you get faydown where hornet repairs it herself

[twilit saddle]

I don't think I want to do it cause of how stressful it'd be and the fact I'd likely fail the first few attempts

[polar jay]

poshanka

[uncut flint]

it goes back 3 hrs HN i'll just deal with it

[twilit saddle]

It's a level of challenge thats beyond my comfort zone and getting to said comfort zone takes a LOT of effort

[cold trellis]

Poshanka!

[weary gorge]

yeah, I mean I don't think you ever NEED any of it. I've used flea juice and it did work, it helped me deal more damage and created more openings, but I think if I learn a boss well I don't want my muscle memory for movement speed altered

[polar jay]

https://tenor.com/view/shakra-hornet-hollow-knight-silksong-poshanka-gif-13569590462274981095

[stiff briar]

when I played Diablo I usually did hardcore but only classes with 3-4 death escapes, unless you bench warp that isn't the case in SS

[limpid bronze]

also like for witches u can’t really use it for exploring cuz the heal is so situational

[worthy oxide]

that one weaver door

[weary gorge]

I think it's fun just to see how far you get tbh

[past yarrow]

Its much funnier if you do it while she's seated

[uncut flint]

PLZLZZZ say YES or NO!@!!! ||I just need arcitect melody, do i need some different ability other than the four (those r last, no?) or do I just fuckling suck||

[inland wind]

I am confused as of how this guy is not eaten yet

[toxic horizon]

Which is why you just dont get hit

[cold trellis]

Just run normally bro 💔

[weary estuary]

The secret 💔

[polar jay]

He makes him delicious food. You wouldn't eat the cook!

[inland wind]

I wholeheartedly expected the big fatty to eat his servant next time I visit

[craggy pecan]

bc he cooka the good meal so he stays alive

[worthy oxide]

||there's another one||

[weary gorge]

wait does she do it back

[last plover]

Cornball i got spoiled

[stone trail]

You do not eat the cook and then ask for flambe

[toxic horizon]

Learning witch carried me in courier quests, I never got hit once throughout all of them

[twilit saddle]

that's a healthy mindset

[inland wind]

My brother in Christ, I put the spoiler tag, it usually means that it’s a spoiler

[manic tree]

There's a door on the right side of the room below dancer's that takes you up

[limpid bronze]

yeah. i feel like it’s just harder to use tho tbh. wish there was just like i crest no tools but more nail damage.

[last plover]

U did?

[uncut flint]

weird way to spell yes/no

[weary gorge]

man this game has it's up and downs but my biggest disappointment with this game is that I've completed all the main stuff. Really didn't want it to end lol

[past yarrow]

She reacts like you caught her napping in class

[mortal bluff]

How does having a max of ten mask change balancing?

[twilit saddle]

feel free to read the pinned message in this channel, you don't need to explain yourself

[stone trail]

discord is buggy rn. sometimes not everyone gets the spoiler tag

[manic tree]

Master would never be eaten!!1!!1!1!1

[past yarrow]

It means you can heal off one extra hit

[stiff briar]

spoilercels

[bleak lark]

oh, so three silkshots
interesting

from what i see, the architect is one with a spread, whats the mt fay one do

[cold trellis]

Doesn’t really matter since the last boss deal 2 masks so you still die in 5 hits regardless

[weary gorge]

yeah, I never had time to give a real effort to doing HK steel soul but I did do two one session attempts and made it pretty far

[vale urchin]

do they actually launch at you ||with their ass|| i thought that was a ||nsfw edit||

[past yarrow]

Railgun

[toxic horizon]

Its like a railgun

[wild lotus]

Basically a railgun

Instant beam

[bleak lark]

ohhhh

[limpid bronze]

no tools, regular heal, 25% more damage, (simple crest)

[inland wind]

Oh damn mb @last plover

[twilit saddle]

y'all, this isn't a spoiler-free chat #sk-discussion message

[toxic horizon]

A single charged shot that pierces enemies

[manic tree]

Well you clearly didn't know how to get up and thought there was a new ability so I told you how to get up is there a problem

[bleak lark]

so its more weaver like, neat

[eternal bone]

anything from twelfth architect i sshould buy

[toxic horizon]

Yeah, its the original model

[weary estuary]

buzzsaw 🤑

[cold trellis]

Everything.

[weary gorge]

you guys think we could ever see silksong pvp lol

[toxic horizon]

Everything

[cold trellis]

She sold a lot of good shits

[past yarrow]

You can just thank someone for tryna help you lmao, fuck off otherwise

[eternal bone]

i dont have enough for everyhting

[vivid belfry]

let's not get ahead of ourselves

scuttlebrace sucks ass

[grim bluff]

is it hitscan?

[wild lotus]

But the completionnnnn

[past yarrow]

It lets you get early shaman actually

[toxic horizon]

Its a % toward completion tho

[eternal bone]

whast teh most useful item from architect

[vale urchin]

i had like 3000 rosaries, so i just bought everything

[vivid belfry]

save it for last

[toxic horizon]

Architect key or wheel

[cold trellis]

Buzz saw

[vivid belfry]

every other use of craftmetal is better

[inland wind]

It would be good if I was good at using it but I just never used it; therefore never got to get good at it

[vale urchin]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[wild lotus]

Ok yeah tbf that’s literally what I did lol

I sort of just forgot about them for a bit then remembered I didn’t buy everything

[candid crown]

Dude watcher at the edge is literally just fucking savage beastfly all over again and i am NOT fucking enjoying it

[vivid belfry]

no it wouldn't, it's a sidegrade to just changing your input direction and dashing, which is free

[eternal bone]

didnt they nerf the wheel

[past yarrow]

Pretty powerful for that alone

[heady cove]

bait it so you hit him into the sandcarvers, they do chunks

[twilit saddle]

is that the funny spider walk thing

[toxic horizon]

Cheese him with tool spam

[strong monolith]

for me it was worth the meme, idk what it was so at least made me laugh 😂

[vivid belfry]

yes and i have no clue why because it wasn't that good in the first place

[manic tree]

#server-announcements message

[eternal bone]

so did i just waste 360 rosaries

[past yarrow]

I feel scuttlebrace is a hollow knight reference. On launch that game had a backdash they patched out.

[vivid belfry]

idk you can use it in a quest

[inland wind]

You mean the beta

[vale urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/stickroll-rickroll-stickbug-gif-19198794

[vivid belfry]

and it's considerably better if you throw out 2 at once

[stone trail]

I love you funny ourple guy

[manic tree]

Needlessly leaving spoilers unspoilered isn't allowed

[lime kite]

Everything backer related are all added eventually yes?

[twilit saddle]

Ah, I didn't look there for rules on this channel

[past yarrow]

His ost is just a choir chanting his name

[finite lava]

iv collected all fleas and done all side quests i could have possibly done. Now what do I do to activate a||ct 3?||

[weary gorge]

I heard scuttlebrace is underrated, I feel like I should give that one a try sometime

[heady cove]

Nah, the buzzsaw's fine for when you get it, there are just some better options later

[candid crown]

It can run up walls

[past yarrow]

It lets you dash up walls from the floor

[lime kite]

Get || bell home||

[stiff briar]

look at your quests

[cold trellis]

I thought dude was controlled by black threads but no, he still the same fuckass dude 😭

[stone trail]

Nope just depressed, he's the tragedy mask now lol

[weary gorge]

I gotta be honest this does not have me on team scuttlebrace lol but it sounds cool and I will try it at some point

[twilit saddle]

he's an angry theater kid

[inland wind]

Talk to || shaman on songclave ||

[past yarrow]

I love the rematch where he fakes his death and chucks a mirror up the floorboards to pay you

[weary gorge]

I did like how you could end your backdash with a regular non dash attack

[native canyon]

TROBBIO!

[candid crown]

What

[native canyon]

I'm slowly converting my brother over to the side of Trobbio by saying his name whenever I fight him (Trobbio)

[past yarrow]

Also fun fact: claw mirror has hornet posing midair

[inland wind]

The throws got the “take this and fuck off ” energy

[stone trail]

Really?

[native canyon]

noticed that almost immediately it was so awesome

[vivid belfry]

he's not angry he's dooming

[lime kite]

Woah you have an ss of that?

[candid crown]

WHO LET WATCHER AT THE EDGE DEAL 3 MASKS FROM A SINGLE HIT WHAT THE EVERLOVING FUCK WERE THEY THINKING

[vivid belfry]

I don't think this is true

[past yarrow]

"I gotta pay her somehow"

[twilit saddle]

you could say he's angry at the world

[vivid belfry]

but yeah watcher is tricky

[thick steppe]

wooo i got hunters momento

[native canyon]

trobbio lost once and immediately became depressed he's so based

[uncut bolt]

by law of powerscaling this puts kratt above gms amd lost lace

[candid crown]

If you go behind him before the third swing he literally turns and does 3 with the last swing its so bullshit

[past yarrow]

He probably punched you into a worm

[lime kite]

Only enemies that can deal three masks normally are GMS and Groal.

[candid crown]

I was midair on 3 masks, i jumped behind him during the 3 swing combo

[native canyon]

he did that to me once and it dealt 2 like every other attack lol

[inland wind]

I am greatly displeased on how zote didn’t make it to silksong

[native canyon]

groal does 3 damage? I assume with the inhale?

[inland wind]

I would have been blown to see zote in pharloom

[past yarrow]

I think what happened is he did 2 masks and you ended iframes in his hitbox, scissor enemy can do it too

[twilit saddle]

honestly I was kinda surprised there wasn't more 3 mask moves in the very endgame. I think that's fine personally

[lime kite]

Yes if you don’t hit him

[stone trail]

You can juggle Kratt?

[polar stag]

found it. it was at the end of a hidden path in the 2nd half of deep docks behind some exploding lava rocks

[vivid belfry]

it's variable damage

[past yarrow]

Technically his voice is in garamod

[native canyon]

ah

[candid crown]

I specifically hit him once during bind to reach 3 masks so he couldnt onetap me since i was at 2 before binding

[grim bluff]

the real godhome is kratt's hottub

[brittle elbow]

hmmm i wonder how many of these bepinex mods can be downported into hk

[native canyon]

I've never been inhaled by Groal I won't let that bastard get the satisfaction

[twilit saddle]

idk why but this statement upsets me

[pallid slate]

does anyone know if the pollip heart is additive to the flintlate or does it replace the damage buff?

[stone trail]

Groal can straight up full kill you if you don't input anything lol

[lime kite]

I expected those highly telegraphed and flashy attacks to deal 3 masks but only GMS does but oh well

[vivid belfry]

it replaces it and it's not as good

[stone trail]

replace

[native canyon]

wait is it like those worm dudes in the abyss

[pallid slate]

:(

[past yarrow]

Welp, so it goes

[twilit saddle]

bad words!

[past yarrow]

Yall can probably guess what I said lmao, I was talking about groal

[lime kite]

Pretty sure any boss can kill you if you don’t input anything

[stone trail]

Like those guys in ducts idk about abyss I don't fight abyss enemies

[native canyon]

pollip heart flintslate forming an anti-synergy is so funny lol

[inland wind]

Unfortunately does not stack but you can use flea juice and beast crest to have probably the highest dps burst attack build in game

[native canyon]

the tiny little gloomsac or whatever they're called

[past yarrow]

I cant believe that word is banned but all the other slurs arent

[stone trail]

ye

[cold trellis]

I never check, what happened when you combine polip and flint slate

[past yarrow]

How

[stone trail]

the ones that yoink ya

[native canyon]

most annoying enemy in the game fucking hate those guys

[fickle wadi]

Man.

[inland wind]

Makes your attacks do poison

[native canyon]

they always get me when I least expect it

[vivid belfry]

probably also removes flintslate anti-fay chill technology

[past yarrow]

My dead gay bugs

[cold trellis]

GAY

[candid crown]

How many times do i have to trick watcher into the worms to kill? I do not want to fight this pos

[timid acorn]

where do you find the key you need for the lock in whiteward

[native canyon]

the worst synergy of all time??? probably not there's still defender's crest flukenest

[gloomy fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/taki-andteam-%26team-taki-andteam-wolf-gif-307056589705324708

[inland wind]

Well at least they got to have one last dance together, I see that as complete win

[eternal bone]

how do i get back into whiteward from the underworks