hazy trout
ok so, any version to date?
#archived-modding-help
dull lantern
only the item randomizer which isnt capable of swapping enemies
oak zenith
Hi I've been trying to get the dreamshield coop mod to work but if i replace the file, whenever I load the game I just get a black screen. Any help?
@potent atlas ?
safe canopy
its like 6 decades out of date
small storm
Help, after installing modinstaller controller wont work, how do I fix it?
patent fable
@wide rampart I would like to agree with the other people in #randomizer , I would like to talk there because I play a lot of randomizer, but I am not speedrunning it, so I don't have access to type there. Really annoying :/
@safe canopy Randomizer runs are not only for people who want to go fast. A lot of people are slow, but enjoy them anyways. With the #randomizer channel being closed for them, they have nowhere else to really talk about it on this server.
safe canopy
same place they did before
not every one wants to go fast, how can you talk about the game with #races-discussion being closed off
patent fable
sorry, what?
I wasn't aware there was any place here where people were talking about randomizer runs.
Also I simply don't understand the second sentence, sorry.
safe canopy
theres been multiple times people have asked about randomizer in modding, because thats where the devs hang out, and thats probably the best place to ask a generic question about it
as most speedrunners play on specific settings with the intention of going fast
patent fable
While everything you say is true, I still don't see a reason to not open the channel up for non-speedrunners
dull lantern
"most people do this, so it should be restricted to these people only"
safe canopy
I mean it doesn't really matter, nonspeedrunners basically never talk about randomizer anyway, but having it closed does help keep it relevant to those people
its like half of the time non-speedrunners in #speedrunning are either meme shitposts by usuals (non-speedrunner usuals) or a random person how do beat game in 5hr
it'd get pretty annoying if those moved into any-percent discussion
dull lantern
but this seperation makes sense
if we keep randomizer closed there is no ened to have the channel
wanna talk about randomizer? too bad you cant access #randomizer
go do #archived-modding-development instead
?!??
patent fable
But that's not what the channel was created for lol
dull lantern
it was meant to be a place to discuss the randomizer, not races on randomizer only
there are a lot of people asking for first steps in #speedrunning which are not memeing. if the channel was locked behind a role noone would be able to do that
having it closed keeps the same problem there is now which is that randomizer discussions are split between modding channels and races channels
so just delete it then
safe canopy
I just don't see non-speedrunners adding any quality discussion there
I imagine it'll be "how do install random", "dae seed incompleteable", "where unnecessary item", "please randomize x" and "xd look at this seed"
dull lantern
sure that will happen
but thats no reason to keep everyone out
currently, no modder can use the channel without a racer role. if you get that you get pinged for races. thats not what they want, they want to talk about rando
your opinion then should be to just delete the channel since it doesnt offer anything and is a strict downgrade from the current situation
safe canopy
no its perfectly fine
if speedrunners want to discuss randomizer settings, balance and organize randomizer races in there its fine use
and strategies too
dull lantern
they did that in races discussion or modding before
safe canopy
like I said it doesn't really matter because non-speedrunners will basically never talk in there
dull lantern
well we got one here who is interested in using the channel
hcf said there were more
safe canopy
and what are they going to type in there
dull lantern
does that matter
if its related to rando there shouldnt be a channel dedicated for that which isnt available for all people
the same reason everyone can use #speedrunning
patent fable
I'm gonna be honest, with a channel dedicated to randomizer I might even want to start racing people in randomizer. But I am not coming at it from the speedrunner side, I am coming at it from the randomizer side. So for the same reason #speedrunning is open for the people who want to get into it, #randomizer should be open for people to get into it.
safe canopy
then it should be moved out of the speedrunning category
safe canopy
but as it stands being in speedrunning, implies its for speedrunners speedrunning randomizer
which is the intention of randomizer
dull lantern
why is the intention of the mod up to you?
safe canopy
its not
its up to the person that designed it
which was sean
who made it for racing 🤔
dull lantern
why is the mod limited to the desingners intention?
patent fable
Also, here's the discussion that (as far as I can tell) lead to the creation of #randomizer :
'''hcfwesker today 05:21
will it ever be possible to someday get a randomizer discussion channel in this server? modding has way other things going its a chore to keep up. Plus it'd be nice to have the sticky/resources for randomizer things in one place. lot of newer players are finding the randomizer and interested but some of the info is hard to find in here
homothety today 05:22
This has been suggested in the past, but it seemed there wasn't much support for it.
Personally, I think that it would be useful to have a channel to direct traffic to
Ax2u 05:27
if theres really a lot of interest in it from more casual people then why not
**hcfwesker um 05:30 **
there is, i promise you. just theyre so intimidated when they first get here they dont know where to start. and when they do ask in the wrong section because there isnt one specified to it, someone here will simply reply with, "wrong section. go to modding" '''
No mention of racing
okay let me fix the text to make it readable
west bane
I wouldn’t say it’s limited. I’ve done plenty of non runs with randomizer.
dull lantern
being intended for racing doesnt mean its limited to racing
wide rampart
I just got it confirmed that the channel was made with the intention to be used for randomizer races
safe canopy
then yeah it should be renamed and kept for racers
patent fable
agreed, although I am sad there is not a casual randomizer channel
dull lantern
we have a channel for races discussion
patent fable
also good info to have: Racer is different from Speedrunner.
west bane
I think it being in the speed running section is evident enough but a rename with that emphasis could do some good. Certainly can’t do any harm
wide rampart
Yea I just did it
west bane
Make sure you credit me with that change suggestion in a pinned message in the races channel
Don’t give KDT credit it’s all mine
wide rampart
smh stealing the credit from KDT 😤
west bane
I’ve been found out
patent fable
okay so how do I get the Racer role? Because that sounds like fun
west bane
.?Racer
west bane
Or that
west bane
Process of elimination 
dull lantern
?rank racer
proud quailBOT
@dull lantern, you joined Racer.
dull lantern
easy
patent fable
?rank racer
proud quailBOT
@patent fable, you joined Racer.
patent fable
thanks
dull lantern
basic trial and error
west bane
I learned that in 3rd grade
patent fable
Back to actualy modding questions: Will the ModInstaller.exe update the Randomizer Mod automatically or do I have to download the new update manually?
safe canopy
it auto updates if the xml is updated
west bane
Who made the mod launcher
safe canopy
ur mum
west bane
D:
dull lantern
just manually install the mod
west bane
I had some suggestions for it but I can do without them
runic oriole
It was me, Dio!
crystal bay
?rank die
proud quailBOT
That rank doesn't exist.
crystal bay
sad
coral zenith
edgy
west bane
Thanks
dull lantern
@runic oriole remove your stream from #livestreams when you end it
coral zenith
i think gradow's asleep
wide rampart
I got it
safe canopy
banned from maths
hearty harbor
gradow gonna get banned from the livestreams channel
oh shit kdt beat me to the joke
runic oriole
I mean, the only people who ever watch are sid and Khan, who asked me to ping them, so... It wouldn't make much of a difference
But still, I don't like to disregard the rules and am sorry for that
safe canopy
I watched your episode on linear algebra and vectors
coral zenith
i'll be there more often considering all of my exams were in the exact time slot where you were streaming
runic oriole
:pressure:
safe canopy
but I couldn't be bothered to ask meme questions like
if its linear algebra why does the matrix
cosθ -sinθ
sinθ cosθ
go in a circle, checkm8 maths
runic oriole
I mean
coral zenith
nono you don't have to stream if you don't want to
just that if you do, i'll be there 
runic oriole
that's pretty obvious right
hearty harbor
I'll watch whenever I notice it's up too
coral zenith
gradow full time streamer
coral zenith
yes
patent fable
@elfin jasper I just encountered a bug with the randomizer: I picked up the Tram Pass from Hornet 1, went to play a bunch of the game etc. then came back for Shade of Unn, and the Tram Pass was lying on the ground there again. I definitely picked it up the first time, and even used the Trams a bit, but it was still there again.
versed needle
Not handling the return item properly
I had that bug when I first implemented geo pickups
patent fable
Also, I think someone already mentioned this, but the colloseum is bugged, you can't go past the first trial
feral dome
?????
patent fable
In randomizer mod
real jacinth
a comment about a mod in the modding channels
elfin jasper
yes, I'm aware of that
real jacinth
sounds like it's installed wrong
did you use the installer?
what version is your patch
games have patch numbers
what is yours
your game
the game hollow knight
what patch do you have
should be 1.4.3.2
"newest" isn't a number
I'm not familiar with that number, please try again
no
there is no patch 1
I'm trying to help you troubleshoot and you're giving me no information
If I don't know what actual fucking patch you're on, I can't rule out possible causes
and now I don't want to help you anymore
so good luck
tiny blade
wow mick who are you talking to!!
real jacinth
lol
feral dome
I died
crystal knot
same
feral dome
lul
real jacinth
patent fable
Also @elfin jasper if you pick up whatever is at King's Brand's place, the game doesn't trigger the scene where Hornet saves you and you just have to walk back out. I don't know if this is gonna break anything, but it's... weird
elfin jasper
That's intended
patent fable
oh okay. Why though?
elfin jasper
to not break the location?
patent fable
ok
elfin jasper
yeah, I admit it is weird
patent fable
Well it forced me to exit out of the file since I went there without Claw, but not really a huge problem
patent fable
@elfin jasper sorry for spamming you with bugs from the rando mod, I hope you are not too annoyed yet. This can happen too, picked up a mask shard while I had damage and got the new mask, but you don't get the full heal you would usually get. Not sure if it's even worth a fix, just wanted to let you know
elfin jasper
No, I really do appreciate the bug notifications. This probably won't be fixed for a while though
patent fable
That's fine, it's nothing that breaks the game in any way
crystal bay
@crystal knot
wat
crystal knot
it's not clear
but it's a joke
they were deleting their messages after sending thus the 'god damn it'
crystal bay
ok good
there's a lot of problems with DoH that I know of but I won't fix until Silksong releases (and I finish playing Silksong 
) and I do a remaster of DoH
crystal bay
This but you play as dark souls
coral zenith
Doh anniversary edition
zinc zenith
playing with randomizer 2 gave me the unbreakable thing on my normal save file
what do
is there a way to undo that?
or do i have to finna activate debug?
lusty temple
Why would you not want unbreakables 
I mean it's not hard to get them, just grindy, and they are better
So if I were you I'd be happy this glitch hapoened
patent fable
@elfin jasper I just beat Enraged Guardian on my randomize run and there was nothing there, no shard, no pickup, just nothing.
elfin jasper
What item was supposed to be there?
patent fable
I don't know how to check that
elfin jasper
Post the modlog from the saves folder then
patent fable
patent fable
yeah, I just didn't bother uninstalling it, sorry
You might be able to recreate it though, it's seed 1 on Completionist Hard settings with longest check: all iirc
patent fable
Also, after completing the first Trial with Zote, the doors didn't open. I beat the first trial once before and got the item for it and the door opened, but this time, they stayed closed. After Exiting and reloading the GPZ fight was unlocked though, so the win counted.
patent fable
@elfin jasper Ze'mer also didn't drop anything, I had to re-enter the house to get the Geo pickup on the ground.
elfin jasper
That's normal
patent fable
So I just recreated the seed after updating, apparently there was supposed to be the Wayward Compass at Enraged Guardian, but I already had it from somewhere else
elfin jasper
this was not on the updated version?
patent fable
Also yeah, I realized I was on an outdated version, so all the bugs I reported might already be fixed, sorry :/
No, it was the one you posted yesterday
It just took me way too long to check if that was a possible cause of the bugs -.-
versed needle
fuck is zemer
tiny blade
flower quest
tiny blade
🤔
tiny blade
ze'mer is the name of the character
versed needle
I don't know about that
tiny blade
she's one of the knights like dung defender and the dead guy after traitor lord
versed needle
The what
tiny blade
sorry that's all i know
versed needle
White lady is alive and also not a guy
versed needle
Sounds unimportant
tiny blade
yup
versed needle
There's lots of corpses
tiny blade
it's like the guy who protected the white lady or some shit
tiny blade
https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Lore/The_Five_Great_Knights read up on the lore
versed needle
No I don't think I will
tiny blade
apparently she's a girl and her name is dryya
safe canopy
is she single and thicc
tiny blade
i don't think she qualifies as thicc
safe canopy
pointless character
crystal bay
Thicc in all the right spots
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/hollowknight/images/a/ad/White_Knight.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170413214802
inb4 ok buddy
safe canopy
ok buddy
coral zenith
ok buddy
untold elm
ok buddy
hearty harbor
bokay uddy
untold elm
you broke the chain
crystal bay
sigh
coral zenith
Pale champion when saleh
regal wadi
um for the debug mod i turned off the debug hud, how do i pull it back up
untold elm
f1
regal wadi
Thx
regal wadi
Also for some reason lightbringer is failing to load even though I’m pretty sure I did everything correct
warped star
When i load the enemy randomizer it stops at 94 percent and crashes does anyone know what might be wrong?
i read somewhere it could be a lack of ram but i have 16
real jacinth
It's outdated
untold elm
enemy randomizer isn't updated
so it's very inconsistent and often makes the game unbeatable
because the collector makes rooms impossible to enter from the sides and bottom
warped star
oh so is there any up to date randomizer?
untold elm
only item rando
real jacinth
For enemies, no
warped star
oh well even if it doesn't work that well I'd like to try it so is there any way to make it not crash at 94% loading?
real jacinth
Fix it
untold elm
figure out how to update it yourself
real jacinth
Learn to code
warped star
fair enough
cunning shard
I played around with infinite notches mod as a joke but the effect won't go away now, I disabled it in the modinstaller and later uninstalled it but the game still gives infinite notches, help
compact sluice
is 2.b17 the latest randomizer?
I did an update but I don't think the version changed
ivory pawn
@versed needle what license is the debugmod code under?
safe canopy
ivory pawn
ok
safe canopy
API is MIT, so its safe to assume it'd be MIT
ivory pawn
Ok this is properly strange
whenever I try to concatenate anything, my mod stops working and the API logs say ```[ERROR]:[API] - System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Could not load file or assembly 'System.Runtime, Version=4.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' or one of its dependencies.
but if I remove the concatenation it works fine
ivory pawn
nvm pretty sure it's my system
glass meteor
Is your mod set to use net 3.5
ivory pawn
It uses mono 5.somethong
Idk what version of .net that corresponds to
Should it use 3.5?
versed needle
@ivory pawn yeah, unity uses 3.5 so you should too
novel bronze
for some reason the modding api isn't working, I've tried reinstalling it, checking the modding folder, and reinstalling hollow knight but all in vain. It seems like it should just work but it isn't....
novel bronze
yes
real jacinth
What's not working about it
What else do you have installed
What game version do you have
novel bronze
i open hollow knight and the api isn't active
i have the latest verson of everything
untold elm
I'm in a vc with him and I've tried helping him and idk what's wrong
novel bronze
no i have not tried manual installing
real jacinth
Did you press extra buttons in the installer?
The API installs automatically
Without pressing anything
And you installed everything with the game closed?
novel bronze
yes
runic oriole
show title screen
runic oriole
what happens when you run the installer?
novel bronze
This is the main screen
ivory pawn
Can I use System.IO.Pipe even though it's not included in the stripped down version of .NET that unity uses by default?
Or is there a way I can include some extra DLL to get that?
untold elm
I'm pretty sure he has multiple installs of the installer @sudden silo
wait shit sorry random person
real jacinth
Any screenshot of the installer?
runic oriole
^ this
real jacinth
I'm guessing it wasn't set up for the correct file path
runic oriole
KP: those questions are better suited for #archived-modding-development. Here is more kind of a tech-support channel
ivory pawn
kk
novel bronze
just saying installing and uninstalling mods in the installer does change the mods in the mods folder of hollow knight
real jacinth
You can't uninstall and install mods in the api
runic oriole
you mean the installer
untold elm
I think he meant to say installer
novel bronze
yes
real jacinth
The mods folder could still be in the wrong place
runic oriole
yup
runic oriole
can you screenshot the installer plz
novel bronze
novel bronze
yes
runic oriole
ok, second: can you show us your Managed folder, one level above the Mods folder?
novel bronze
untold elm
also, something else, customknight isn't working for me
runic oriole
ok
real jacinth
Are you using lightbringer?
runic oriole
please delete the MOD file
untold elm
no
runic oriole
its name is Assembly-CSharp and its extension is MOD
real jacinth
And do you have 7 files in the custom knight folder
real jacinth
Does the mod show up on the title screen?
untold elm
yes
real jacinth
And you installed when game was off?
untold elm
yes
untold elm
okay
real jacinth
Sup
untold elm
13,185 kb
untold elm
okay mick it works now
runic oriole
but the game somehow still works
untold elm
hmm
runic oriole
I'm getting vanilla just to check
either way, Tragicalpeak, please delete the Assembly-CSharp.mod file
novel bronze
i did
runic oriole
I just checked, 3.335kb is the vanilla filesize
novel bronze
oh
runic oriole
ok, so now close (if it's open) and relaunch the installer
runic oriole
np
radiant sphinx
probably a dumb question but how do I make a copy of a save
novel bronze
radiant sphinx
oh it's a thing. thx
zinc zenith
how do i turn unbreakable charms back into fragile charm using debug?
untold elm
I dont think you can
zinc zenith
wait seriously
my disappointment is immesureable and my day is ruined
you see i play with another person on the same pc and he is way before me progress wise, i already started playing randomizer while he is just in his first playthrough.
i forgot to disable randomizer before i let him play and when he bought the fragile charms it turned it into unbreakable. he is nowhere near the point of having 15k+9k geo.
untold elm
eh, it doesn't really matter that much
tawny carbon
You can ?
tranquil sentinel
there is a way to manually unistall modding api?^
ivory pawn
No, unless you backed up the file it overwrites
ivory pawn
I assumed thats what me ment by automatic
tranquil sentinel
@real jacinth yeah i know i mean just by deleting files
elfin jasper
if you used the installer, then you should have the vanilla assembly renamed in the same folder
real jacinth
you kinda need the vanilla assembly. lol
so if you don't have it, you have to verify file integrity
if you have it, like how homothety mentioned, then you can delete the assembly that's there and rename the vanilla one
or.... just press the button that does that on the installer
quick pollen
Does this file order look right? I know somethings wrong I just can't seem to figure this out
novel bronze
hot forge
when i drag the installer into terminal with mono it pulls up on the bottom but doesn’t start to run anything
quick pollen
Okay so I know I've downloaded the modinstaller.exe and I can see it in my downloads so I'm not sure why this is popping up
(and it did fail earlier so I installed mono)
novel bronze
quick pollen
Right okay what do you do after all the steps then?
runic oriole
it just works
naive yoke
I don't know if this belongs here, but I'm trying to figure out how to replay PoP
I'm on mac
I downloaded a save online that I think would work, but how do I actually add it to the game?
novel bronze
naive yoke
ok, so I'm on this site:https://bloodorca.github.io/hollow/
I have my save file in, how do I make it think I haven't done the path of pain
could I delete a room from white palace?
or would that just fully delete it from the game'
nvm, I think I found it
un nmv im still lost
though that "white palace secret room" meant PoP, but it's probablly just the place where you find the experiments
plush igloo
Quick question. Does the item randomizer swap King's Brand with anything?
real jacinth
then no
plush igloo
What'll be the differences between the one in development and the one on the installer?
When it's finished, i mean
real jacinth
everything
plush igloo
So it's gonna swap everything?
real jacinth
check pins of #randomizer
plush igloo
'kay, thanks
acoustic whale
How do i get to the mod installer in my computer files?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Pay Respects to the Knight/Little Ghost
primal aspids are demons
real jacinth
nice first impression
versed needle
Try clicking it
real jacinth
inb4 "but where is it"
soft compass
The randomizer crashes the enemy randomizer at about 93%. How can I fix this?
soft compass
alright
buoyant maple
same mine crashes at aroung 94%
novel bronze
What coding language do you need to learn to make HK mods?
safe canopy
c#
novel bronze
thanks
finite frost
Is that OK that modinstaller says that it cant find hollow knight location?
And when I'm trying to show him path, he says that path is wrong
I tried to select "hollow_knigh_data" folder, "Managed" folder and "mods" folder
runic oriole
Just select the folder with the exe
jolly loom
I see the list of bosses required for "All Bosses" in the code for Randomizer includes NKG: https://github.com/seanpr96/HollowKnight.RandomizerMod/blob/2aad9d470bcd63ae4ce841f9a2493951243090bb/RandomizerMod2.0/RestrictionManager.cs#L56
If you end up taking the alternative path for the troupe and receive Carefree Melody, I assume this doesn't count as 'killing' him?
finite frost
If somebody has mod "Enemy HP bar" can you copy your folder and send me to direct messenges?
tawny carbon
📌
finite frost
I actually need files :)
tawny carbon
uh what happeend to the google drive link
also where is mick's custom knight files
wtf
elfin jasper
those are pinned in #archived-modding-development
versed needle
@jolly loom you can't banish grimm if you enable that
Also can't leave zote to die or skip radiance
old tendon
Ok. Noob question here, but how does one install the hollow knight randomiser?
untold elm
;i
?i
fuck
?installer
📌
@old tendon
it's the radiance.host one
yknow, why didn't I just copy the link
old tendon
Ok, I downloaded the file
untold elm
run it
if on windows
if on mac or linux then ask somebody else because I don't remember how to do that
untold elm
run the file
then once it's done it should open the installer
I would recommend either putting it on your taskbar or desktop
old tendon
Ok, what are the names of the mods?
untold elm
randomizer 2
and use QoL as long as you don't plan on turning on all bosses
because QoL makes White defender not spawn
old tendon
What's the debug mode one (to turn noclip in case of emergency)
untold elm
read the mod names before asking questions about which mods you should get
old tendon
And the one for infinite charm slots (because I'm pretty sure I'll need it)
untold elm
don't use infinite notches
old tendon
how come?
untold elm
because that's cheap
old tendon
Fair.
untold elm
and because it's a really huge pain in the ass to get rid of
untold elm
yep
old tendon
Hold on, what's no claw mode?
untold elm
dont do for your first rando
untold elm
it doesn't randomizer enemies
and the mod that does randomize enemies is broken
that's item randomizer
old tendon
Dang it. Seriously?
untold elm
enemy randomizer isn't really that interesting either
old tendon
Huh. Oh well. Thanks for your help, then.
versed needle
I worked on a new enemy randomizer for a bit but it's got big problems
Doesn't crash immediately, instead it crashes randomly after 10-15 minutes of playing
I'll work on it more probably maybe later
tawny spire
how do i use more saves mod
trail flint
try using [ ]
trail flint
well i got nothing, i vaguely remember it being [ ], or im mistaken
tawny carbon
sometimes doesnt work
tawny spire
well I just need new saves so I guess it'll be fine
safe canopy
that'll just be keyboard layout issues, it is bound to [ and ]
but if you have ğ you probably don't have a standard layout keyboard
novel bronze
how do i install debug with that
tawny carbon
dont you have installer
novel bronze
nope
tawny carbon
open read me
novel bronze
i use visual studio?
tawny carbon
what
novel bronze
i ran debugmode.sin with visual studio
novel bronze
idk
tawny carbon
If you don't want to use an installer, or if you prefer a more textual guide, please follow this easy and simple step-by-step guide. (This is assuming you have a Windows system. Check the File Paths in the pins if you are using a Mac.)
- Make sure your Hollow Knight version is up to date.
- Download all the mods you need from the Google Drive. You need the Modding API first and foremost, together with the API mod of your choosing (also found there). MAKE SURE YOU DOWNLOAD FOR THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE GAME WHEN YOU DOWNLOAD THE MODS. (current version: 1.4.2.4)
- Locate your Hollow Knight data folder. (Usually found in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight
- Merge the folders from the download (hollow_knight_Data) with the mods you just downloaded. A simple drag and drop should work, the folder names just have to match up.
- Make sure \Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data\Managed\Mods exists and has the mod .dll of the mod you want to download. If not, place it in there. It should just be there as a .dll and not as a folder.
- Boot up the game and see if in the top left corner, mod information is displayed (just a name and a version number). If not, verify game integrity (Right-click on the game on Steam, click Properties, go to the Local Files tab and press Verify integrity of game files.) and install the Modding API again as shown in Step 3.
Enjoy your modded Hollow Knight experience!
coral zenith
hmm why aren't you using the installer?
tawny carbon
;i
coral zenith
zote died
tawny carbon
damn
old tendon
Petition for someone to make a mod that changes uumuu's name to uuwuu
novel bronze
now i downloaded something popped up
tawny carbon
wow
"something popped out"
wow
that could be anything
hm
hmm
explain
whats it
novel bronze
how do i reset timescale
accidentally changed
and how do i use cheats
and how do i decrease nail damage
novel bronze
the debug mode is really unclear
novel bronze
and now i'm invisible
real jacinth
on your keyboard?
real jacinth
click on it
runic oriole
sigh
novel bronze
idk what's my normal damage
and the game constantly tells me i have max damage even tho i almost don't make damage
or idk what is damage state
i think that's what it is
oh nothing
coral zenith
where's saleh we need his sigh
novel bronze
i' m forced to add 4 or subtract 4 but i wanna have 5 damage
safe canopy
but all the numbers it can be are 5 + (n * 4) so you can subtract down to 5 🤔
runic oriole
shhh don't tell them that
novel bronze
why can't i wear infinite charms anymore
cosmic otter
Hey guys, does somebody know if the bonfire mod is compatible with the lightbringer mod?
meaning does the damage of the lightbringer attack scale off the leveling of the mod? Or does it not affect it at all?
patent fable
How do you capture a bingo board from bingosync.com in Streamlabs OBS? Window Capture only gives me a black screen and Browser Source only gets me to a login window :/
runic oriole
Screen cap and crop it
patent fable
I only have one screen, and that will be showing Hollow Knight .-.
safe canopy
buy more screens
real jacinth
make HK smaller
runic oriole
Login with the browser source then
solid pine
hi so im trying to install the hk debug mod for 1.2.2.1 but i think im having issues installing the modding api
solid pine
dont look at that bad game
solid pine
right im on the old patch,but maybe i downloaded the wrong version of the modding api? i cant seem to find it in the google drive so i downlaoded it from somewhere else but i could just be stupid.
versed needle
Bootleg modding api 
versed needle
"somewhere else" probably means github so nbd
runic oriole
Why 1221 tho
real jacinth
like speedruns n shit
runic oriole
Yeah, but they're not blue, so I can only guess as to why...
solid pine
oh yeah i figured it out, im new to the hk community and im practicing to speedrun
noble basin
coral zenith
time to start speedrunning again
patent fable
"Login with the browser source then" I don't know how to do that :/
patent fable
Well, I found a solution. I hate it when Mickely is right.
coral zenith
v nice
patent scaffold
What do I need to do to install the debug console for windows?
cosmic otter
Hey guys, I just defeated empress muzznik in lightbringer, but now the doors dont open :x
Alright nevermind, just had to restart the game.
tawny carbon
Hey guys, I just defeated empress muzznik in lightbringer, but now the doors dont open :x
Alright nevermind, just had to restart the game.
whole shell
Which version of Randomizer 2 is in the mod loader? I heard there was a version that randomized the dreamers, soul vessels, mask shards, and pale ore.
pale vapor
Hello! Playing "Randomizer 2" and "RandoMapMod" with no altered settings on start up screen. Should the first charm (fotf) be a big geo cache instead of an ability or something?
whole shell
Pretty sure that's normal - Geo Chests like the one after False Knight get randomised along with the rest.
pale vapor
Alright! I hope so.
are mask shards supposed to be randomized? The one in crossroads seems normal
whole shell
There's apparently a version which does randomise them, but I'm not sure that version is in the mod loader just yet.
pale vapor
hmm. Guess I'll keep looking for something random, then!
whole shell
IIRC: Charms(except for a few), Nail Arts, Spells, Abilities, and Geo Chests are randomised. Collectibles, Soul Vessels, Mask Shards, and Dreamers aren't.
pale vapor
alright! Thank you very much.
whole shell
No problem.
autumn grail
Hello, I've been screwing around with sprites recently, and the grimmchild mod said it could change the sprite of grimmchild. Specifically it said I could change it in "config." Problem is, I have no idea where config is. Anybody know where I could find that?
whole shell
Are you using the Steam version?
autumn grail
yes
whole shell
Right-click in Library -> click properties -> 'local files' tab -> 'browse local files' -> hollow_knight_Data -> Managed -> Mods
There should be a folder for the mod, with sprites inside that you can change.
Not 100% sure, since I don't use that mod, but that's where all the mod files are.
manic lantern
So I used to be able to play HK with the randomiser mod. However I recently can’t. Nothing works. Reinstalling it does nothing. The load thing for it doesn’t pop up.
pale vapor
Also, how do I get out of crossroads in randomizer?
Do I reset until I get dash/spirit etc?
manic lantern
You can grind for the luma lantern lol
pale vapor
right! I forgot about that exit into peaks
manic lantern
Honestly I got monarchs and the cloak immediately whoops
Check the stores to see if you can purchase the powerups if you’re also running item rando
pale vapor
I got mostly charms and such, sadly. However, I did get unbreakable strength
manic lantern
Yep
pale vapor
which is a top tier charm
manic lantern
Hmm cool
pale vapor
i could kill the baldurs using crest, right?
pale vapor
aww, shame.
manic lantern
They shield if yo get too close
However
If you make ur way into greenpath later
You can kill elder Baldur by hitting them from behind
pale vapor
Baldurs shell, heavy blow, dream nail, and soul catcher
manic lantern
If you get the cloak or wings in cross roads you can also drop down into fungal wastes
pale vapor
both of the focus charms are for sale in Sly's, as well as the 4 charm shamen thing
soul eater
pale vapor
yeah, no movement stuffs yet
nah, but i was thinking about it
might on my next run, if my computer can tank it
manic lantern
oh god I had 3 of NKG in the city of tears
pale vapor
anyway, i should just start grinding for geo to get into crystal peak?
manic lantern
45 per kill
tiny blade
you don't have to grind geo
pale vapor
got an idea for a way out?
tiny blade
you don't need lantern to interact with the toll in randomizer
pale vapor
manic lantern
although you can memorise the base so
pale vapor
I can get through, it's more the other dark rooms in peaks im scared of
hopefully i get some sort of movement ability from peaks
manic lantern
but yeah uh any ideas on how I can get my enemy randomiser to work? it used to, now it doesn’t. @tiny blade
tiny blade
enemy rando only works sometimes
you can wait until seanpr remakes it which could happen today or never
manic lantern
F
pale vapor
yep, unfortunately i have to reset
nowhere in peaks that i can go without some sort of movement ability :(
tiny blade
you don't have to reset
get to resting grounds through the dark room
did you check salubra?
tiny blade
so rg will have something
pale vapor
rg?
tiny blade
resting grounds
pale vapor
i can't even get there from here
without either guessing my way through a long, dark room with little platforms, or resetting and trying gaain
*again
pale vapor
yeah, i'm at the room right before the dropdown into resting grounds
yeah, this seed's been pretty grueling so far
pale vapor
yeah, because "easy" made it so like nothing was randomizer
tiny blade
if you pick a hard preset there's a good chance you will be forced to do certain skips to progress
don't pick it if you are not comfortable with said skips
pale vapor
i did the shade skip pretty well, and i can do QGA
but this skip seems less skill based and more a guessing game
should i do a normal or easy seed, then?
tiny blade
you can very easily learn it and do it consistently with some practice
but it'll take some deaths to learn at first for sure
pale vapor
there's also random factors like "do the crystal hunters laze around randomly, or do they have sniper scopes today" hah
im just gonna reset, i was thinking about putting on enemy randomizer too anyway
tiny blade
the first hunter is trivial if you just go quickly
the second one can be a little bit tricky if you don't know how to deal with him
pale vapor
and remember that i have 0 movement abilities
tiny blade
yes
pale vapor
so i have to commit to low, slow jumps to get through
tiny blade
itemless dark rooms are really common on hard seeds
pale vapor
well I'd rather just have a fun experience. Do you know if normal modes have any itemless dark rooms?
tiny blade
the easy preset won't force you to do any of the hard things to progress
pale vapor
and the "normal" one?
serene bay
Okay, um, this isn't really a modding question but I was wondering if any of you guys had a full spritesheet for cloth(I.E. all her animation frames and such)
I asked here cause I know some of you guys do Sprite mods and I was thinking maybe someone would have it
If any of you guys do have one feel free to DM it to me
safe canopy
art-discussion 📌
serene bay
K
sinful gull
apparently the item randomizer mod has an update? where would i download said update? very sorry if this is obvious.
safe canopy
randomizer-races 📌
sinful gull
alright, thanks and sorry
patent latch
Hey, um, so can someone help me? I have literally no clue what I'm doing when it comes to modding this game, I just want to install Glass Soul
coral zenith
did you use the installer?
patent latch
Yes, I did install that, but I don't see Glass Soul on the default list.
pulsar glacier
Hi. I used the installer off of modb and was toggling on some bosses. I think daughter of hallownest makes my game really weird when loading a save (has verious boss backgrounds that aren't lined up and plays audio for start of NKG fight?) But the more important thing is that none of the bosses (except pale prince) are showing up. I didn't really want to mess with my main saves so I used a new godmaster save, but I don't see any of the switches for the other bosses (it says it's on in the corner when I pause it and under the options)
patent fable
Can someone point me to the load normalizer please?
patent fable
Nope, it's not part of QoL
elfin jasper
It's in #races-announcements
patent fable
thanks
glass meteor
no
runic oriole
I pay you good money
tiny blade
gradow does huasuhashuashu ring a bell
runic oriole
not really
tiny blade
ok
wanton belfry
Hey, im new to modding. What does "lemm sell all" do?
runic oriole
lemm eat ten egg
runic oriole
you can talk to lemm on the right to instantly sell all your relics at once
lone pebble
Does anyone know how to download the item randomizer?
runic oriole
or #randomizer if you want the version that's being used in the race
lone pebble
Thank’s!
low knot
how does the path of pain mod work, how do i do it again
tame tulip
i think qol lets you repeat it
real jacinth
The backwards one
glass meteor
qol lets you repeat it and for the backwards one you just stab the black box
candid island
is there a place where i can see the addresses of certain items
real jacinth
dense forge
I've got two questions about the randomizer (v2.7.1): What's the 'Early Geo Pickup' in the quality of life settings, and what's the difference between the 'completionist' and 'junk pit' randomization presets?
daring peak
early geo means fotf will always be 150?-655 geo
junk pit probably adds the useless chests in junk pit to the item pool
elfin jasper
it already does
if you have the updated version and updated api 
but only I have those
untold elm
ah
simple quail
Im trying to get hollow knight bonfire
But i dont understand what an api is
H e p
real jacinth
are you using the installer
steel depot
can sombody tell me how to make a modpack file for the modinstaller from https://github.com/timoschwarzer/hollow-knight-mod-installer/releases
safe canopy
steel depot
send me the link
safe canopy
pins in the actual channel for making mods
safe canopy
its like the 6th pin, drive with mods
steel depot
sean pr?
safe canopy
if you're just installing mods you can use
steel depot
now how do you make the mod in the game
like do you put the zip file in the folder or somthing else
real jacinth
what are you trying to do
tawny carbon
Wtf
untold elm
use the installer
unless it's not on the installer
if it isn't then just click manual or whatever on the installer
steel depot
can you tell me what a installation path is because steam is not in the usual spot for me
real jacinth
You're asking us to tell you where you put the install on your computer....
Oh, here's a good one. How many fingers am I holding behind my back
steel depot
wait do you need the steam install file
steel depot
its in my downloads folder
real jacinth
Why is it there
steel depot
idk i just have it there
steel depot
i have it on switch
real jacinth
Think I was born yesterday? Goddam pirate
steel depot
no
steel depot
frick
tiny blade
tawny carbon
wrong information smh works on my pirated copy 
normal pike
is it possible to add soul vessels? by using a self made mod that limits soul i somehow deleted 6 of the ones i collected :(
ive tried debug and QoL json but am still struggling
safe canopy
is it not max soul and max soul reserve
tawny carbon
self made mod
safe canopy
in multiples of 33
or MaxMP even iirc
also you shouldn't change what any of the values actually if you don't want it to mess up your save
just make it report that you only have X soul even if you have 3 full soul vessel
tawny carbon
explain
gleaming kernel
it requiers the most stable version
its the gradaw mod installer
help? @tawny carbon
want me to post a screanshot?
tawny carbon
yes
rare rivet
What version of HK you have installed?
normal pike
it is the latest yes
gleaming kernel
so why cant it work
normal pike
@safe canopy should i just look for those stats in the QoL json? sorry for ping
gleaming kernel
what do i do
normal pike
i am not sure
gleaming kernel
i legit bought the game a second time on pc for mods
please tell me theres a solution
normal pike
theres def a solution
it may be a reinstall
you can keep your save files though
dont do that until youve tried everything else tho
rare rivet
I'm unsure tbh. Might have to wait until someone comes online who knows
glass meteor
A second time on PC as in two pc installs or as in one switch and one pc
gleaming kernel
what
glass meteor
you said you bought the game a second time
glass meteor
Do you have it on steam or gog or what
gleaming kernel
to be honest im not sure
glass meteor
gleaming kernel
i bought it from some wierd ass shop that just gave me a disc of hollow knight
for a really cheep price
now that i think about it i wish i had bought it from steam
gleaming kernel
oh god
gleaming kernel
oh ok
glass meteor
there's also a detailed pin on it
glass meteor
application programming interface
glass meteor
5th pin in this channel
gleaming kernel
ohhh
i tried to do that
qol worked but the lightbringer mod didnt work
wait
WAIT
HOLLOW KNIGHT SAYS ITS 1.4.2.4
oh my god
is this the latest version
fuck it ima reinstall it
tiny blade
tawny carbon
wtf
coral zenith
Hmm
crystal bay
runic oriole
Benji is ruthless
coral zenith
another one lost to benji
lost summit
fringe pendant
Anyone else having issues with the debug mod?
Because I had the debug mod active when fighting Nightmare King Grimm and when he hit me, my game crashed.
floral cedar
Hi, I need some help with installing debug mod, I'm on linux running steam version of the game. I Installed modding api propperly and can see it in the game but I can't figure out how to install the debug mod. I extracted the contents of the mod to the ~/.steam/steam/steamapps/common/Hollow Knight and also to the mods folder but the game doesn't sees it. I can't use mod installer since its windows only