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Wah
reply to:
||Will I die permanently if I die against the Nightmare King on steel soul?||
no
Thank you C:
||dying in any dream except vs radiance (NOT absolute) and in white palace doesnt count as a death in steel soul||
Whoops
Edited
that means you can die as much as you want in ||godhome||

||I learned that if you die in the White Palace the file is deleted in the rough way :c||
Thank you
||I lost an Speedrun in that way||
How do i get perms for voice chat
Send a bunch of messages (idk the exact number)
150 iirc
i rember the good days
Probably cause people were trolling
all I did was ||spam ddark with grubsong, shaman stone and spell twister|| but I don't recommend it
does ||longnail|| stack with ||mark of pride||?
cool, potentially useful combo there with ||heavy blow|| also in the mix
Pretty sure that's the ||most useless charm|| in the game...
It is actively detrimental when you want to lock onto enemies
When you knock them back further that’s less dps
I cannot think of a singe place where that would be helpful 
||longest fight ever|| challenge?
*in an actual playthough
How do I kill the bunch of guardians in ||City of tears|| before the ||dreamer||
||Watcher knights?||
Yes
||Learn how to tell of they are about to roll straight or bounce. Keep track of what both are doing, and attack when it is safe or when they are split up (make sure you know when the second one is coming!). You can pogo over ones that are rolling straight to get over them. If you have the time, you can dream nail them while they're getting up for soul. There is also a secret to kill one before the fight.||
am i supposed to do something here? or is it just lore
Lore!
Where is the ||land of storms|| entrance?
|| Ddark is also your best friend in this fight.||
left side of the ||hot spring leading up to p5, through a crack in a wall||
Thx
what about here
||You hit the lever, which did something nearby (but not in that room)||
ahh i get it, i already ||reaped the reward||
no more ||angry water||
but i used ||crystal dash|| anyway
||Dream nailing that corpse give some interesting lore tho||
Water is angrier without the ||light. C-dash or not||
good shout
How do I go back into ||Ancient basin||
From where?
well, i do that a lot for most ||corpses||, but i ||read it and forget like 5 seconds later lmao||
Land of rest
Show map
ah, sure, sure
I dont know how its called in english
||Resting grounds?||
No problem
it's not even water but that's a discussion for #hk-lore
It's just to avoid spoilers. Every water that hurts is bad water
||I gave Godseeker the delicate flower and beat p5, why am I not getting the ending?||
she is talking about ||facing the heart of the infection, right, not the other choice?||
Correct, the ||true ending||.
alright that makes sense
feels like at this point i have been through most of the content
If you send map and inventory I can potentially point you towards new things.
oh hey
Dumb question, but just making sure: ||did you beat p5 after you gave the flower?||
thats alright, i am not lost or anything, just taking stock of my situation
Yep
i still have places to go
im trying to beat ||pantheon 1 all bindings|| any tips?
I gave ||the flower before godseeker woke up|| so that might be the problem, idk
When you reach a certain late game area, you will be able to see which bosses you have not seen.
And you know what the ending looks like, right? It's not very diffrent from the one without the flower.
It shows ||godseeker holding the flower|| I believe at some point in the cutscene
better to know who the issue is
I keep dying either at ||brooding mawlek or oro||
That's really weird. I have no idea. ||I think you should see awake godseeker holding the flower once you've given it||, but I'm not sure.
Was I supposed to ||give the flower after godseeker woke up?||
I'll be honest, I didn't think its possible to do it before.
||
mawlek is just 1-2 hits, get out, repeat
- on the jump, couple of hits then a shriek right next to it as it lands (safe)
- on the spew, either a shriek or a bunch of hits + ddark after pogo to get back in time
i like to do oro ab with narts only (or close to it), so ill describe how that works - always have a nart charged when there isnt an open window to attack
- try not to let them take too much space, walking towards them for a bit in between attacks solves that
- after every attack, dash slash + nail hit immediately (if the timing is right, this can be done after every single attack excluding cyclone/dash slash)
- if ever in the middle, use the iframes from a dive [would recommend saving soul in case] to get as far as possible, then shade cloak (should be safe)
- a shriek can be done as they do a downslash if youre on the other side of them (or during mato's cyclone)
||
thx so much
I don’t know but I managed to
I have the achievement
But uh
I don’t know
I might have to ||beat p5|| in a dif save file..
||grey mourner|| isn’t there bc i somehow gave the ||delicate flower|| to ||godseeker before they woke up||
Nope
If you did ||flower quest|| the ||delicate flowers will be at the grave||
Lemme go check
I forgot where the grave was :p
||queen’s gardens, somewhere above the stag||
The flowers are on the grave
Like 800
You got ||shade cloak|| for a reason fam
He tries to teach you how to use it effectively in avoiding attacks
i didnt mean literally
even with ||shade cloak i was still better of dodging over him, not through him||
its just the fight drags on
its like the first two parts go super quick and the third one just drags and drags
you can easily get 3 hits in between each move
stay close, ||he wont use boomerangs|| that way
yeah, youre not supposed to heal at all
||just dash through all his attacks and slap him a few times inbetween. gets into a rhythm||
use ||sharp shadow||
ur meant to focus on dps and dodging
ur not supposed to heal
You can heal but it’s quite hard
the only real healing window in that fight is done by ||being close then getting distance to bait out glaives, then healing in the gap||
its tight but consistent
You have to run away from him so he performs his double blades attack
Yea what teq said
||dashmaster|| if you want for extra dmg and length
w
Last section
Yeah
why im doing this on my first playthrough
Not even 50h in game
yeah last sections the hardest gl
💔
more time in the game mainly improves combat not platforming
I think 40 something hours is reasonable for ||pop||
you got this
I did the whole thing in like 3 hours
on last section
the last 37 hours
wdym
the whole before the last room
ah yeah that's pretty reasonably
you're doing well
🙏🙏
any recommendations on what to do after reaching 113% completion
How do I beat ||winged nosk his hitbox is too big for me to be able to jump and pogo when he dashes but if I double jump then the opportunity to pogo passes before I can hit it||
You can jump and pogo you just have to time it well
Is there an easier way to time it well because I can’t time it well 
😭 this is photoshop right
I’m not sure how much more tangible advice I have to give on that front haha
||spell spam||
I don’t have soul because I can’t hit him
Yeah that’s not helpful
Contrary to what you’d believe spell spam is often not the answer
do what you'd do with ||vengefly king||
That’s what I’m doing but ||nosk has a bigger hit box which is the problem||
its practically just timing practice
Just have to jump a lil earlier than you are
jump early + time
also try ||mop|| or ||longnail||
||quick slash|| if you want
I think I got it now but this boss still sucks and I hate it
though tbf thats just kinda good for everything
its on the slower side
I got ||mark of pride||
In my professional opinion it’s the worst fight in the game
yeah that works
Now I gotta climb all the way back up to him in ||pantheon 5||
😭
do yall think using ||sharp shadow|| will make beating ||PoP|| for the first time easier or harder
Harder
ok thanks
I am thinking ||grubsong, steady body, hiveblood, mark of pride, longnail||
is this a good charm build
for ||pop|| yeah def, tho id recommend ||shaman||
wait why ||shaman stone||
for the fight at the end?
ja
Some would argue ||longnail|| and such are self sabotage
I personally believe anything outside of ||grubsong and deep focus|| doesn’t really affect it very much
ok
where tf is the corpse for ||failed champion||
up
i went back up
breakable wall
Upstairs. There’s a breakable wall where you will see candles around and hear weird noises.
ah
ok ty
NOOO
||SEER DONT LEAVE ME||
NOOO
^ Story spoilers (just throwing this out here so unsuspecting people don't click)
||GUYS DOES SOUL EATER AFFECT GRUB SONG SOUL GAINS?||
aww
||They still work well together if you want to have a lot of soul||
tf u mean
Replace ||lifeblood core|| with ||shaman stone||
Some section
The ceiling is too low
So if u bring ||mop or longnail||
you are NEVER getting pass that
Just pogo lower
exactly
||elegy makes grubsong gain more||
Whats the best ||charm build|| for ||nkg|||?
||I would recommend quick shash, mark of pride, quick focus, and soul catcher.||
don't use ||mop|| because it will mess up tunnels replace with ||QS|| and also ||elegy||
Why the last one
Nah let him pogo lower
yes use this one
Also you need ||grimmchild|| equippedlmao
Just my personal preference. I prefer ||soul catcher|| for healing. But I did forget about ||grimmchild||.
id say ||qf, mop, spell twister, heart/longnail/unn/sharp shadow||
It really feels like placebo im ngl
for the last one pick based on your skill/style
Plus at that stage of the game you have a lot more charms that have more impact for less or same cost
can swap ||qf|| for ||strength|| or ||shaman||
... I have heard that before, but I forget what it means.
||catcher|| gives 3 more per hit and ||twister|| saves 9 per spell
When you think something has impact but that’s just your mind telling you it is
has no effect but u think it has one bc of ur mind
When in reality it gives less value or does nothing
Sooo you think ||soul catcher|| does nothing?
Early on it is a good charm
its outclassed in mid-late
But once you get better ones no just use them for better value
we have ||eater|| and ||twister||
Is there anyway to change my charm in the middle of ||pop||
No
🥀🥀
Oh well. I still prefer it. I have tried ||nkg|| with others, and while I can kill him faster, sometimes I just randomly play terrible for no apparent reason, and I like the saftey. And I usally throw it on last, so not enough ||notches|| for eater.
I'm getting tired lol
i just beat ||sly on ascended difficulty + overcharmed|| im shaking
Does anyone record their ||pop gameplay i need tips||
what're you struggling with currently?
the last room
ah
The big ||chainsaw that move||
UGH
if you use it for healing and don't heal often still use ||catcher||, if you do heal often use ||grubsong|| because that means you're hit often, if you use soul for ||spells|| use ||twister||
Most of the time I use it for ||spells||, but some attemps I just play terrible lol. I think it's the best of both worlds for me.
yeah
this segment?
Hell yeah
and be less aggressive with nail
that way you wont get hit as much
||catcher|| works its just less efficient
also bc ||nkg|| flies
||you need to be quick because you only have a bit of time before you can make the jump. as soon as the buzzsaw is in your area nail jump > dash through the gap > then double jump so that you can nail jump on the stationary buzzsaw||
i hope that makes sense
i count the timings so that i dont fuck up
I see
Imma rest now i can feel my thumbs giving up
Cant even pogo properly
or any of hk really
im using a controller too

HAHAHAHAH
||Meh, I feel pretty good about him. He is my favorite boss, and definetly the easiest late p5 boss for me. I just can't some days. I could probably radiant him in less then 5 tries if I felt like it.||
i even have to switch my jump button to use ||narts properly in cof3||
Who?
||nkg||
Top 4 favourite boss
bro i want to switch my binds but my sister keeps insisting i can press the jump button by flexing my thumb joint

what on earth does this mean 😭😭
she says i cant swtich the binds because i can use ||narts|| while jumping by pressing with my thumb and pressing jump at the same time with the middle of my thumb 😭
basically bending ur thumb backwards a bit
😭
first off that feels like. Really awkward positioning
secondly what are ||narts||
||nail arts?||
Change ur jump to ||dreamnail one||
The X
Yeah
yes
exactly
Pressing with the middle of my thumbs feel like no power on it
Sometime i just like
i dont know if she's on something
touch it and didnt even presd the button
haha ||narts||
exactly
Im just touching the button bro not even pressing it
wait a minute i just realized i do that
😭 fr
is she suggesting to do it like this?? 😭😭
ok yeah i do that too it's awkward but it gets the job done
yeah
yes
Do the X one
its currently on x?
left thumb for slash right thumb for jump
isnt it like
the top button
yeah on my console is X
can you bind attack to ||dash||
Do i need to ||pogo off the big saw||
why
||the one that's moving?||
Yes
||because yes but when the saw goes through the gap to the other side you gotta dash then double jump so that you could pogo off the stationary one||
easier for me personally
you gonna have a hell of a time in aerial combat
Why im i doing this 🥀🥀
ill swap ||cdash|| to attack
beats me dude it's not even required 😭😭
because thats not needed for combat
I want my ||2 second cutscene||
then may you persist broski 
glory
||How are you gonna control with ur left hand and dash at the same time||
Did i tell you im in exam week aswell
i'm talking about the default ||cdash|| bind
Isnt it at the left aswell
basically ||dash|| just switches sides
yeah i can control movement with joystick and ||dash|| with index
left hand is for movement and rh is for atk
you gonna have one hell of a time to adapt
i can imagine you doing ||cdash midair||
trying to beat ||sly on radiant and i got down to his third phase but his stupid fucking buzzsaw attack keeps getting me oh my god 😭😭😭😭||
i can't time the ||nart and i cant reach him by doing default attacks either||
is this just me skill issuing or is there a better way to get his ass
from all the speedrun i seen
😭
💔💔💔
||sharp shadow+dashmaster|| for this maybe?
i have ||sharp shadow equipped||
oh
||dashmaster makes things a bit difficult in the first two phases because i keep overshooting||
true
omf im never beating ||p5|| at this rate
All hk player quote before retrying again
i think what i need right now is a good burrito maybe that'll help me lock in
||sdashing|| through also works
ima go off for the night
Bye
should i use this chat for help around downpatching hk or should i go somewhere else?
you can but i don't know if anyone's able to assist you at the moment...
somewhere else probably
okay thanks
@distant smelt @thick yacht @sage smelt guess who did it (time to rest)
Yes im enjoying my ||2 second cutscene rn||
oh wait its already over
Nicee
i mean it is a 2 second cutscene
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
YOU DID ITTTTT
Lmao
Ok your turn pal
You can now legally put ||pop completion|| on your nickname
Too busy tweaking out over ||p5|| at the moment

im actually shaking right now
because i died to ||nkg||
just 2 bosses away from ||absolute radiance...||
yeah bro is dying again
😭
i must persist regardless
Yes too late to go back
i NEEEEED to perfect hollow knight so i can move onto silksong in peace
yeah same
Hence why i did ||pop||
🗣️
bro is reveling in his glory
HAHAHAHAH
what do you intend to do now that youve completed it?
||patheon||
Well perfecting hk wud mean what
Ok yeah please rest 😭😭
heck yeah
Imma try ||patheon tmr||
Time to do math
wdym
good luck with math!!!
Wdym by perfecting hk

Oh like getting all achievements
I think by finishing everything u can possibly do
|| that wud include pantheon 5 with all bindings and stuff ||
|| hitless p5 too ||
no im not doing the bindings ||the pantheons are already difficult enough||
or hitless
i just want the achievements 😭😭
Ye that's what I was curious abt whether u meant literally everything
i mean if i completely rid myself of the need to touch grass then maybe
but i'd shrivel up and die in my room if i did that
also i have college to worry about still
wait so where should i go then?
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What's it abt?
Usually, since I dont know anything about device at all I would redirect any-non-in game question to #1057825333841240104
i downpatched the game and it worked at first but then started crashing
Ye the mod chats will prob help better
Only advice i have is like reset ur game and device etc
i have absolutely no idea
sry for seeing it late
okay thanks!!
Ehm… I’m on my first play through and got stuck in a place called lake of tears?
I went through from a statue but I’m a bit lost in how to proceed
U need an ability
||isn't CD enough or nah||
I think it's enough but idr the full room
whats cd
||royal waterways||
Can u show the full room
Np
||crystal dash||
How do i ?
|| dreamnail ||
||dream naii||
It was at the same time, Herb
It's in a different area
no its the same
i didn't move and took ss for the map
The pathway to it is in a different area
Anyone got tips for ||p3||
no i just reached 113% completion
113 is probably a glitch
i need help im not sure how many messanges ive sent
you need too send 150 too use voice chat right
just search for messages from you
from:robbobgob
top right
Nah im just slightly goated
Going for 114% next
112 is max
prob wrong channel for jokes
what boss are you struggling with?
Kinda all of them but mostly ||sly||
||take nailmaster's glory. charge a nail art while he attacks and great slash after his swings/spin/nail art. dash out if he gets too close. repeat for phase 2||
best thing you can do is also ||practice in hall of gods now that youve reached him||
if timing ||nailmaster's glory is a bit difficult for you what worked best for me was just working a max range nail build||
Ohh okay
Ive never really used ||nailmasters glory|| but ill try it
Thanks
Okay ill try that too
good luck!! let us know how it works out
any tips for ||ascended markoth phase 2||
||1: pray.
2: Save soul in phase 1 and spam it (use twister and shaman) in phase 2
3: Stay on the same platform as long as possible (unless you’ll get it). And be patient ||
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Hmm, I wonder if someone's trying to speed run, getting banned XD
No gifs allowed here lol
Yea lmao
What if worst scenario u are out of soul
Try to damage him with your nail but be very careful ig
This will never work 🥀
gg
||Nail arts are also good||
The ||dash one||?
pretty sure the ||dash one got more range||
Yes but it’s very hard to use on console
I swap button so its easier now
I finally got the ending
||how to unlock sister of battle and nkg in hog||
||Sister of battle -> encounter in godhome
Nkg -> finish the grimm troupe ||
Any tips on ||omo brother the narts brother one i forgot name||
||They only both attack at the same time if you are in between them, so avoid that situation if you dont like that. Beyond that, practice in the hall of gods till you are consistent ||
||does hall of gods give sister of battle||
yes
every boss including variants will show up in ||hall of gods|| if you encounter them atleast once
Fire, ty
tips for ||trial of the fool, especially wave 14 (no floor, tons of flying mobs. die the most to the battle obbles because bullet splatter)||?
guys what do i do in HK now im so bored
My main build for ||pantheons|| is ||shaman,strenght, mop and heart|| but i can only beat ||pure vessel|| with ||sharp shadow, quickslash, mop, and strenght||.
What do i pick?
S p e e d r u n
Or ||if you're at 104% like your name suggests maybe get the other 8% your missing||
awwww
i did have all
||Nkg|| is also something fun to do
anything fun
yo
duh ||banished him||
hi
You can fight him in ||godhome||
well its not that fun
i dont like ||godhome its js grindings||
You could get the fan made dlc
How do you safely install mods btw?
I have no idea how to
|| Lumafly||
I have no idea tbh
Also that's more a question for #1057825333841240104
Oh i didnt see that channel
Mb
It's alr
How do you install the impossible any % mod in lumafly
fucking ||markoth||
so annoying that i have to ||just keep dodging and dodging and this projectile bullshit never ends, at the same time finding an opening every 5 minutes, even with sharp shadow||
In || kingdom's edge?||
well yeah
|| what's your charm loadout ||
well i beat him, but he was ||fucking annoying||
ok mr i-am-good-at-video-games
you can easily kill him with ||shade soul double hits and abyss shriek||
Hi
build up enough soul and KILL him
||Use Shaman Stone it takes him down easily||
i would have had to farm for that before every attempt
for soul?
Yeah last I checked it costs soul to ||cast spells||
Yeah it does cost soul
Oops
||Keep Mark of Pride in your hand for that||
||Get hits when you can then cast spells||
^^^^^^
Lmfao I don't have that, I just looked it up
I don't know how I was supposed to conclude that I was supposed to do that to get it bro fr
tips for ||abs rad's exploding circle homing missile attack thingy?|| please (idk if i should put this in spoiler but i put it jic)
Already struggling with the next thing, the ||bullshit of the bowling balls guarding the spire|| ffs
|| d dark||
Wtf man
||Ddark. When there’s still a ball left, focus on destroying the ball first (via the ground) and then continue attacking||
👍
||wait so ddark gives me enough immunity frames to like completely dodge like 3 balls?||
Depends how close they are but yea
||tips for second phase?||
||by that i mean the platform phase not the one with vertical blades that come towards you||
Kinda the same as first
The same stuff works
||Stay at the same platform as long as possible and try to spams spell when you can. If you’re out of soul, farm some soul and return to your platform. Play safe and do not do risky things since you’ll probably fall off platforms. This helped for me at least.||
he's not talking about platform phase, he's talking about phase right before first stagger
||don't use spells and don't rush to hit radiance; find a safe spot first before deciding whether you should jump up and hit||
Uhhh, no, you have that the wrong way around
He said platform phase btw
Why no ||spells||??? It’s the BEST weapon against ||absrad||
phase before first stagger.
i was not referring to plat phase
That doesn’t change anything
there is no time to use ||abyss shriek|| as it locks you in place for too long to react
in that phase.
before that there are many timeframes
There are a lot of moments where you can ||abyss shriek|| actually
Just time them right
you can
fair
not needed in full gear for || phase 3 || but its good if you can spare it
look near ||kingdom's edge tram station||
||there will be 2 bees above a spike pit and a breakable wall on the right||
|| oh so u don't go there thought the actual tram ||
You do
Kinda
Ok well thanks
||Gets you right outside basically||
yeah ig
impossible to unlock this ||after lighting the lantern||?
No
Just takes longer
Where do u find it then?
||first room||
Ohh ok
i got it ||weird how they didnt spawn before?|| i have been through here a few times
They did
no, they didnt, i have walked through there a few times and none spawned
They did
They always spawn
just now when i went back to the ||lantern|| before turning right, ||i waited a little, i did see black specks, but nothing spawned||
can someone please tell me what is the ||WR for Elderbug%|| ?
i finished || watcher knights is 3 masks enough for soul tyrant||
they only ||started spawning once i circled back from the lantern back into that room||
They didn't, they spawn before that
I have been there alot
whatever man, i am just saying that was my experience
believe it or not
thats how it was for me
If you go through the room fast enough you don't see them
is || soul tyrant the second last fight||
What one are you in?
like i said, i didnt exactly sprint through there, but when i circled back ||they spawned basically instantly||
|| p4||
I can't remember
damm im cooked
Gimme a sec
why do we have to use spoiler tags for hk content like ||( myla dying from the infection)||
fuck i died
Because it's a spoiler
so we dont spoil others
what speedrun category is that
spoiles
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i had to censor the name of e||lderbug||
despite being the first npc you meet, there are relevant later-game spoilers like:
||why is elderbug freaking out at the new guys in town??||
i see
Can some one help me with || p4 i lost a lot of hp cause of markoth||
guys whats pale court
since he's just after ||failed champion just dream nail his armour for free soul and healing before markoth||
fan's DLC?
its a mod
what does DLC even mean
downloadable content
DownLoadable Contect
oh ok
i do that but i lost likr 4 masks and || watcher knights broight me to 3 masks||
practice him in ||hall of gods||
k
i can easily beat all of the bosses, but i cant beat ||watcher knights|| normally
they are ||very unfair|| and i lost my ||under 5 hour run achievement|| due to them
those two dont need spoilers
you want to tag relevant events, items and bosses
like uh, ||grimm troupe, vengeful spirit and failed champion||
Aside from the words "Nail", " Soul & Focus (healing)", "Map", "Boss", "Charms", "Mask", "Geo", "Bench", and "Shop", consider everything else a spoiler
but isnt achievement content spoilers?
||Dirtmouth too apparently||
||bretta appears in dirtmouth||
that's a relevant spoiler
it depends
speedruns aren't really spoilers lmao
Why is ||soul master|| so difficult?
it's just beating the game really quick
||maybe things like uh rivalry but 5 hour doesn't really say anything||
only really the ||un telegraphed teleports ||which can be unfair
||he's a real hard boss for new players. teleportation, fairly fast attacks compared to other foes you've fought so far. he really encourages you to use your spells and dash often||
but despite that he has a pretty glaring weakness
a low stagger threshold.
i remember ragequitting my first file to him
9 hits, and he's staggered
what about combo staggers?
realistically can't happen because of how frequent he teleports
||Oh that unpuffed state is considered a stagger?||
yes it is
yeah when he deflates
this
||the attack when he has 4 spells around him and coming to attack is so difficult to dodge||
it aint really, just jump over the orb and you're good
||four soul balls thingy||?
it's actually the best time to heal
stand at the middle of the arena and you can heal like 3 masks
||you have a healing window if you run to the left side||
talking about the "||orb spin||" attack
yea
yes thats balls orbiting
idk how to call them so
spinny balls of soul
balls.
||just don't jump too higj, you can dash to cancel jump||

||jump and dashing|| is the de facto way to dodge it
|| so I just jump a small jump and dash? ||
What's the tag for pings off again
yeah mostly
make a short hop
?tag noping
don't jump that high or you'll bump into him
Thanks
|| rip 2k geos I lost I guess... ||
Yeah
Also @plucky gorge
??
What is dat?
how to toggle reply pings
Some users, like Ship do not want pings
That's to help how to turn off reply pings
god i fucking hate || markoth||
wdym by that?
getting percentage?
Killing your ||shade||
Because it's an open world
Oh my luck can the messages load already
it loaded
Maybe finding pathes to progress
Pings off
It took like a minute to send
Makes sense
woops
I mean dying twice
just find unexplored paths and go there
rip
No
I lost 2k geos and ngl I left to take a break...
2k geos isnt that much
you can get back really easily
like 5 mins
For me its a lot ngl
Wouldn't say 5 minutes
5 mins!?
He's early in the game
I am still in ||soul master||
god this flying fuck || markoth|| why is he in the || phantheons||
everyone is in ||"phantheons"||
not everyone
||don't worry, there isn't much to spend geo on anyway||
maybe (bosses)
||44/47 are||
||s-l-y||
ok unc i aint countin
Btw I always forget to unequip the || map thingy charm while fighting||
||Zote can be avoided so not everyone||
|| gpz isnt there if u dont save him||
you dont have to reply if you dont know the answer
||you can save him and have him not appear in the boss, just not fight the boss||
CAN BE AVOIDED? so does that mean i cant get full percentage if i didnt save hiM?
oh yeah
||no, he adds nothing at all||
so only 111%?
oh
nvm then
thought ||radiant difficulty on every boss there gives percentage||?
||how does godhome give percentage||?
||Hall of Gods doesn't give %||
Only ||amulet and pantheon 1-4||
||unlocking it is a %, p1-4 give a % each ||
ooh
only || 4% cause of pahntheons||
i thought ||HoG does give smth||
||who are the others btw?||
||p1 dont count||?
It does
|| rad, thk, colo zote ||
||p1-4 count, p5 doesn't||
it does
ok
|| p5 doesnt||
-# all these pings are lowkey hurting
Guys is it necessary to unequip the ||map charm|| that indicate where you are while fighting?
No ofc not but it’s an extra slot you could use
it gives u a confidence boost
it really does nothing in combat so why use it
if you know the runback, just use a diff charm fam
I forget to unequip it...
do you have other ||1 notch charms||?
tell me then
Yep
||try to get used to remove it if yoy die and know the runback||
Only 1 tho
If you don’t have a good charm to replace it, it’s not worth to go back to a bench
when dying you go back to the bench anyways
The bench is so far from the boss...
But ik the path
Pingsoff
its from ||cornifer|| right?
What charms do you have that can replace ||compass||?
i hate that runback
Btw after theb||soul master|| is there a bench near him???
I don't remember ngl
wdym by that? after killing him?
but you unlock a shortcut that goes to the bench
||near him, not from him||
Not really but it kinda is tho
It’s complicated
So I have to use ||compass|| so I can know my way?
your choice
save n quit does get you back to the bench
idk if it just tps you to the ||soulmaster body||
Well if you're not confident in your navigation skills, it's good to have after I ghess
does || awoken dream nail|| give %
Yes
I really hate the enemies that faces me while going to the ||soul master||
engage them one at a time
you can use ||vengeful spirit|| to take them out from afar
you got ||shaman stone||? really good charm
||don't try to rush, that just gets them all piled up||
Yep
I ignore them and try to get past them as fast as possible
its like 1-2 enemies you can just ||dash through||
It's hard while going up I tried it
just kill it then
There are also small enemies so more dmg
Sometimes you gotta kill 1 or 2 but don’t waste your time on killing every enemy in the room
Pretty certain|| it doesn't put you at bench so charms can't change|| that said ||compass won't help much there as you'll have no map for the immediate area||
Which means you ||don't need a bench|| really
||is it possible to get shade soul before even killing false knight||
Yes
||You can skip the fight and get city crest later||
-# Pings off
I don't think ||you even need to fight false knight||
no i mean after killing it will you just always spawn near the corpse?
Yeah
aw
many ppl quitted cus they didnt find the secret way and they said they got "softlocked"
You need for ||city crest (to unlock cot)||
||blue lake shade skip||
||r grounds||
Alr that’s a skip… I didn’t count that
||can't yoy go resting ground elevator or nah||
You can
yes... that's what ||blss|| is for
whats ||blss||
this
oh
||blue lake shade skip||
ok
Is this how people with pings off feel when they keep getting pinged 
How can you get there
just go down there are 2 paths
||desolate path and normal path below xero||?
Well I would think still don't need to get ||city crest|| cause you could get `||lantern and use peaks access to reach elevator surely|| that said there might be a time ||dive is required||
No, I mean ||how do you unlock cot without skips or fighting false knight||
theres no way then
Yea ig good point
||dive is required to destroy the tomb that leads into lower resting grounds if you want to use the city elevator without blss||
||Mantis claw, lumafly lantern, to get to crystal peaks, think you can get crystal heart without dive||
you cannot
:(
without fighting is impossible vro
Oh yeah this solves problem with my route
Good point
Again
||wasnt there another way under Xerobor is that dive too||
no
||Cdash can access blue lake without skips from crossroads||
OOPS SORRY DUH I FROGOT THE SECOND TIME
one way door
Bro has too much ball knowledge
Elaborate, kinda confused
you can only open it from the bottom
Damn should have remembered that
Damn
Thanks chaf
Conclusion, ||you can’t enter cot without beating false knight or using skips?||
you can
how?
Pls show me the way
flowey the flower
|| desolate dive on a coffin in the room where you go to seer ||
You can’t have ||Ddive if you don’t have cot||
i thought theres a way ||below xero||
7 souls team on bro
Yes you can only open it from below
||grind geo for lantern, go to peak, get cdash, cdash off the right wall of gruz arena towards the right, go across blue lake, go down the elevator||
||or just blue lake skip||
how do you go to ||peak without ddive||?
so
he said no skips
||lantern||
||lantern||
oh ok
||toll entrance near stag||
theres 2 routes
||Lantern there's a tollso no dark room ||
We said no skips allowed
i go there and i dont see any toll
mreow
send your map
me?
yes
like in my second playthrough i go there and dont see it
||you need the lantern||
Have you gotten 112% zl?
nice
Nicee
crack version doesnt have achievs 😭
||what seven bosses can be skipped without blocking easy paths or upgrades(ex: Godtamer or nkg can be avoided without much issue)||
||saving Zote is required||
what
that's what the 63 means btw