hk-help

[primal ibex]

come back later

[orchid flower]

This is normal

[gilded fern]

Guys im struggling with ||enraged guardian||, does that mean im not ready for ||radiance||?

[primal ibex]

you're very underprepared

[orchid flower]

||Radiance|| is much more difficult

[frosty locust]

||where is deep focus||

[orchid flower]

They’re meant to be one of the last battles of the game, so I’d power up more

[lyric rapids]

||Spells||

[high heron]

they what 😭

[gilded fern]

How do i know im ready for him

[lyric rapids]

||spam ddark when u get enough soul||

[lyric rapids]

her*

[primal ibex]

brekable wall going towards left, look below where you ae

[orchid flower]

It’s a breakable wall in one of these spots

[high heron]

i’m assuming it’s cause there’s a ||dreamer|| up ahead

[orchid flower]

I can’t recall which one

[primal ibex]

its the left one

[high heron]

but idk how to progress if i don’t beat that ||dreamer||

[orchid flower]

Just explore

Don’t focus on progression for a while

You’ve been neglecting your side stuff, that’s why you have so few tools

[high heron]

i’ve largely explored every area i have

[primal ibex]

||look on your map for places where it's cut off, fades out or looks sketched||

[high heron]

ik there’s ||deepnest|| but idk how to get therr

[gilded fern]

It took me 30 tries for that dw

[primal ibex]

send some pics

[gilded fern]

How do i know im ready for ||radiance||?

[orchid flower]

You won’t until you try

Just test it out and see if you can do it

[high heron]

oops spoilered wrong

i guess

[gilded fern]

But im struggling with ||enraged guardian|| rn, should i give up that and go beat the game

[orchid flower]

Do whatever you’d prefer

[gilded fern]

I mean the ||mask shard|| wont be useful cause im not doing ||flower quest|| for the last one

[deft spire]

I GOT MORE || NOTCH||

[bitter anvil]

Ok

[gilded fern]

What help do you need

Do i need to refight ||hk|| if i die to ||radiance||

[deft spire]

Would this tech still work || https://youtu.be/Pnp57WeuDZc?si=-vItCvOTDOhSJvRq||

[bitter anvil]

Yes

[gilded fern]

Wtf thats going to be so hard and stressful

[bitter anvil]

Welp

[deft spire]

would this work yall ?

[compact notch]

||are you expected to use different charm builds for different bosses? like in some bosses theres a lot of chances to use spells but some others are really nail heavy||

[bitter anvil]

Yes

[compact notch]

oh

[bitter anvil]

Which one you on?

[compact notch]

im just thinking about ||hall of gods and the pantheons||

[bitter anvil]

||In hall of gods for sure, but pantheons you gotta pick a good charm build for alot of different bosses||

[compact notch]

||im thinking about switching between shaman and mark of pride between pantheon benches||

[high heron]

is ||wayward compass|| even worth ot

[compact notch]

yes

[high heron]

or better question is ||dream shield|| good

[compact notch]

s tier charm

[compact notch]

no

[bitter anvil]

For first playthrough yes

[bitter anvil]

Def

[high heron]

okay this is conflicting

[errant field]

How do you get ||dash||

[lean warren]

hey so I just unlocked|| my dash and found this knight when I went up the well again||. What is this supposed to mean😭 🙏

[high heron]

cause i need another ||charm notch||

[bitter anvil]

?

[lean warren]

hard to explain I started a few days ago

[compact notch]

||tiso||

[compact notch]

you should talk to him

[bitter anvil]

Ohh

[lean warren]

I did but where do I go?

[elfin ferry]

which areas have you unlocked

[lean warren]

mb yall Im new still😞

[compact notch]

its not smth u should worry about at this stage

[lean warren]

You need to defeat ||Hornet||

[atomic river]

he has a big story later on

its pretty cool

[lean warren]

oh alr

[atomic river]

oh wait ||zote or tiso||

[lean warren]

idk...

[atomic river]

cause both can spawn up there

doesnt really matter

both have cool stories

[lean warren]

It just said t||here was an arena down below and "follow if you dare"||

I didnt pay attention to the name

Which I realized is a good thing to do in this game

[high heron]

yeah so how do i make it up there

[bitter anvil]

Other side

[high heron]

how do i make it over there them

then

[bitter anvil]

||I believe the entrance is in another area||

[weak phoenix]

hi guys is there any tips on how to || beat the boss in stone sanctuary? ||

[bitter anvil]

||Spells||

[hollow bramble]

||play safe, if u stay at the bottom, u cant get hit so if u want to you can play really safe and only hit her when she spawns close||

[weak phoenix]

thank you so much omg :))

[mortal zodiac]

Guys, what should i do if hk gets boring😭

[bitter anvil]

Sk

[woven spindle]

||react, don’t predict the projectiles, atleast that’s what I tried to follow until I realized that I suck at the game||

[woven spindle]

||bot told me to spoiler mark this for whatever reason, but do Obobbles on Radiant. Sorry if I spelt it wrong||

[mortal zodiac]

I'll try

[woven spindle]

||I beat absolute radiance on radiant diff but can’t do this boss on radiant, gl||

[mortal zodiac]

||absolute radiance on radiant?||

[woven spindle]

||yea||

How do I spoiler an image?

[mortal zodiac]

Click on it before sending

[bitter anvil]

On mobile press the image

[woven spindle]

Thx

[weak phoenix]

im also garbage at this game its so embarrassing thank u sm

[woven spindle]

Yes I play on switch, shush

[bitter anvil]

||why no attuned||

[woven spindle]

||i got lazy 😭||

[bitter anvil]

||I only don't have radiant 😔 ||

[woven spindle]

||do moss charger with quick slash grubberfly||

||i gotchu Santa||

[bitter anvil]

Huh

||i meant absrad 😭||

[mortal zodiac]

||I only beat abs radiance on attuned 🫩✌️||

[woven spindle]

Oh, mb

I’m not the most intellectual specimen

First playthrough btw

[high heron]

ah

[bitter anvil]

I have 85hrs on my save currently

[woven spindle]

what

[high heron]

where’s the ||bank||

i thought i remembered there being one

[high heron]

or like a place to store your money

[woven spindle]

Fog

[woven spindle]

||next to the stag||

[high heron]

isn’t it close to ||queen’s station|| though

[woven spindle]

Ye

[bitter anvil]

||To the left of fog entrance||

[woven spindle]

I forgor to spoiler 👍

[woven spindle]

Does he know?

[high heron]

where do i store my money then

[frosty locust]

whats in here

[high heron]

if they scam you

[mortal zodiac]

||lifeblood for pantheon 5||

[woven spindle]

||You beat them up at City for more money||

[bitter anvil]

||When you do bindings you unlock those lil dots and when you reach big dot you will have lifeblood at pantheon benches||

[frosty locust]

o ok

[bitter anvil]

||More big dots more lifeblood||

[woven spindle]

||it goes from 3-5 life blood masks||

[mortal zodiac]

||I have 3 lifeblood masks in pantheon 5 and i need more, but it's hard to get😭||

I have my own statue now

[ionic steppe]

SmFTUTYGSUYDCYGWEDUYCYBWE

NOOOO

[random spear]

so how do i get out of this room in ||crystal peak||

[ionic steppe]

BRO

I JUST DIED AT THE END OF ||PATH OF PAIN||

[orchid flower]

Aww that sucks man

[ionic steppe]

||AND I KILLED BOTH OF THOSE DUDES BUT THEN THE BOOMERANG ONE OF THE DUDES THREW AT ME FLEW BACK AT ME AFTER I KILLED THE DUDE 😭 ||

[mortal zodiac]

Idk why, but now i want to complete ||PoP||

[lyric shadow]

charge ur phone

[mortal zodiac]

Ok

[brave drum]

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[mortal zodiac]

Easy

[ivory orchid]

And i cant even get past the first room 😭

[vernal scroll]

the fact you did it with a mobile joystick makes it even more of a flex

[orchid flower]

Yeah I can’t imagine how difficult mobile would be

[unique latch]

||does the game end after beating the hollow knight or can I go back and collect all I'm missing afterwards||

I think I'm missing that ||worm, is there any way for me to know where it is?||

[orchid flower]

There’s a map that shows all of them

[vernal scroll]

||theres a way to locate every grub, you gotta find the love key bottom right of queen garden and go to tower of love in kings pass||

[mortal zodiac]

Umm, ye

[elfin ferry]

bros even on mobile

that’s crazy

ever heard of this thing called steam link

it’s an app that lets you play select steam games on your phone or ipad. completely legal.

[sage smelt]

oh cool

[lyric shadow]

i dont know about the legal part...

[elfin ferry]

it’s owned by steam

[zenith lance]

steel mode?

[lyric shadow]

is it free tho?

ah ok

[mortal zodiac]

Ye

[lyric shadow]

didnt know that

[elfin ferry]

when you click play on a game there might be an option on the right of the play button to do it on a mobile device

hollow knight has it

[zenith lance]

[elfin ferry]

not silksong tho

oh shoot this is the wrong channel

i thought this was #hk-discussion sorry

[strong hemlock]

Kind of a niche question but does anyone have any experience with controller modifications? I'm primarily a keyboard and mouse gamer and I hate the feel of my dpad on the steamdeck. Feels like I am constantly missing pogos or upflings if I don't press it at the right angle. Thinking about getting a clicky dpad but I'm just curious what people here prefer and if there are any downsides

[ivory orchid]

i dunno i have it on switch maybe try using the joycon if thats possible

sorry i dont have a steam deck so

[unique latch]

Beautiful

[sage smelt]

did you save them all

[unique latch]

Yessir

[fast reef]

What happens after you beat ||NKG||?

[frail musk]

The ||Troupe leaves Dirtmouth permanently.||

[fast reef]

Ooooooo

[frail musk]

You can keep playing after you beat it

[unique latch]

||Already got most of these and the upgrades to the spells, should I go for HK or should I get something else before?||

||Oh I'm missing 2 pieces of mask||

[sage smelt]

bench then go back

[unique latch]

What the flying fuck

[frail musk]

He’s helping them 😂

[unique latch]

I hope so, dayum

[sage smelt]

lmao

[frail musk]

||Dream nail|| him lol

[supple mountain]

it's pretty crammed in there, not helping

my buds are metamorphasizing, that seems fun tho

[ivory orchid]

pls help im stuck on ||p3|| and cant beat ||gray prince|| please help

any tips work

[frail musk]

||Practice him in Hall of Gods is all I can say. Descending Dark will help with i-frames. Hit him once or twice, and don’t get greedy. Stay a little bit away from him...||

[ivory orchid]

ill try it

[frail musk]

I was like you, and ||GPZ took the fun out of the game for me lol. I practiced him in Hall of Gods|| over and over until I could beat him with mostly full health.

[ivory orchid]

oh ok, my plan before was to just ||create anothre save that doesnt rescue zote so i just skip gpz in godhome AND keep bretta to myself|| but i do want my first save to be the one i 112%

[bold valve]

more roundabout than a perfect circle gahhdamn

[frail musk]

This was my exact plan too lol, and then I beat ||P3. Ngl I’ll probably still do the new save just so I don’t have to deal with Zote anymore.||

[vernal scroll]

||wheres the mask shard in the false knight room located||

[old condor]

Pretty sure there is none

[vernal scroll]

ye i read the map wrong

[carmine holly]

what are the ||giant hopper things|| in ||kingdoms edge|| and how do i kill them

[old condor]

Wdym what are , they are mobs , you can just ||hit dash dash back hit and goes on , shouldn't be too complicated to learn ||

[carmine holly]

well i know they are mobs but what ate they called

[old condor]

||Pretty sure it's great hoppers||

[carmine holly]

k thankz

[summer yew]

What to do next?

[summer echo]

go back and hit the white dude

til hes on the ground

[summer yew]

Thank you

[hot glen]

||how do you kill the big bug guys in hollow nest, the one with the masks. They seem impossible||

[old condor]

You mostly just bait them and take it slow , if there is an edge you can climb on it bait them and then jump hit , untill you get enough soul for ||spell|| and then just spam that

Or just pogo if you have space

[hot glen]

||I wish, I'm in the distant village where I get trapped by the dreamer i think||

[old condor]

Some of them there has space but most of them doesn't so yea

Just bait

[coral veldt]

||Hit them right when they open their mask, then dash away quickly so you don't get hit. Keep doing that multiple times, you can also use spells :)||

it's a very brief moment when it's safe to hit them

[high heron]

i just made it to ||deepnest||, am i really stuck here until i explore everything?

i can’t make it back to ||fungal wastes||

[coral veldt]

Where are you currently, if you have a map at all? Which way did you enter?

you can definitely get out through many ways even though it is quite tricky

[high heron]

i entered through ||fungal||

but there’s probably multiple ways

for that

[coral veldt]

||Did you drop down through a huge hole or go past Mantis Lords?||

those are the main ones I don't think there were others

[high heron]

okay wait i actually have a bit of a dilemma

the part where i need to go is dark but i don’t have the ||lantern||

i have enough money for it but like no way to get there

[coral veldt]

oooooh I've been there yeah

[high heron]

wait mayb i could use the ||tram|| to get to ||ancient basin|| and go back up

i ended up grabbing the ||pass||

[coral veldt]

oh yeah if you have that u can def go that way

[coral veldt]

||theres 2 more ways out to Fungal Wastes, if you go towards the up-right corner of the area, but many of the rooms are really hard to navigate. If you're already familiar with ancient basin you can definitely take the tram||

[chrome parrot]

what should i use for ||p3||? i have all charms and i have to fight ||gpz||

[orchid flower]

||mark of pride-Quickslash-strength combo is the best to deal with Zote||

He’s a very nail centric battle for consistent damage

[chrome parrot]

ive tried but for some reason i keep dying.

should i try running ||unbreakable heart|| over ||longnail||?

[orchid flower]

||longnail|| is pretty worthless

Its increase is so minimal that it’s not worth the 2 ||notch|| cost

I believe it’s only like 15%

[chrome parrot]

ah ok

what should i replace it with?

[orchid flower]

||Unbreakable heart|| is good if you wanna be a little tankier, ||Dashmaster|| is something I’ve never actually used for the battle but I do think it could be a potential sleeper pick simply because it could give you more leeway with accidentally ||dashing|| into his predictive moves

But it’s not really good for anything else in it

Always stuff like ||spell twister|| though

[sage smelt]

||dont forget about the goat grimmchild||

[dense torrent]

anything useful in the ||teachers archives|| other than ||dreamer/uumuu||

[sage smelt]

no

[orchid flower]

There’s a ||journal entry||

[shut sparrow]

wtf how did I miss this before. Good job!!

||are you on p5ab already?||

||I thought you were like on p2ab||

[orchid flower]

I had already beaten it on my switch but I wanted to redo them all on steam. I switched to steam so I could have the ||toggleable bindings|| mod

[shut sparrow]

beaten ||p2ab or p5ab?||

[orchid flower]

Up to ||P4AB||

I’ve never gotten past ||Collector|| on ||P5AB||

But now that I have a mod I can just practice him until I can do him every time

[lethal siren]

oh yea thats so cooked

how do people even do that

[shut sparrow]

with enough practice it gets much better

[orchid flower]

My research has told me ||great slash the first jar, then use intuition to kill everything else||

[lethal siren]

intuition ;-;

[shut sparrow]

nuhuh

[orchid flower]

Some runs use ||cyclones|| but I’ve watched hitless runs only use ||great slash and occasional dash slashes||

I think it just depends on the person

[shut sparrow]

||I used a lot of cyclone in my hitless run. If you aren't using cyclone you're just playing worse imo||

||cyclone gives more soul which is simply better. Great slash is just easier to use||

[lethal siren]

you did ||r5ab??||

[orchid flower]

||I didn’t know you’d done R5AB, that’s rly impressive dude||

[shut sparrow]

no. ||I just did radiant collector ab||

[lethal siren]

oh

[shut sparrow]

I haven't

[lethal siren]

still pretty insane

[orchid flower]

I did finally find a ||P5AB|| run that wasn’t made by a super insane speedrunner/hitless player to study, which is great

Strategies feel a lot more attainable

[shut sparrow]

||imo a radiant clear is much better than a p5ab clear. Someone that beats p5ab isn't close to perfect and likely doesn't have very good strats for most bosses||

[orchid flower]

||To be fair to them they did only take one hit on Markoth and Pure Vessel, no hit Abs Rad, but like 4-5 hits on Zote||

[shut sparrow]

||so if you are looking to copy strats, I recommend watching radiant ab clears. Either of individual bosses or of the whole pantheon. It doesn't really matter||

[orchid flower]

||Zote is my main worry because it doesn’t feel like there’s much strategy to him besides just feeling the fight out, which sucks because he can kill you so fast and he’s right at the end||

[shut sparrow]

||zote is definitely tricky. Key is to know when to use your ddark, and how to get rid of the summons as quickly as possible. The rest is mostly practice and intuition.
If you need advice for him feel free to ask||

[orchid flower]

How do u deal with ||hopping Zotelings|| if you can’t kill them right away and he spawns like 3 of em

That’s usually where my hits come from

[shut sparrow]

||if you do it right, you should always be able to remove all summons immediately. Wait until they are fully spawned, then shriek. If you don't have the soul when he starts the attack, hit him while he is spitting. (It's very important you don't shriek too early or they won't die. You'll learn the timing. There's no rng involved so if you do it right, you'll always get it).

If for some reason you still end up in a scenario where a hopper survives, I recommend trying to get rid of it as quickly as possible. You can use spells for that but you need to watch out for gpz. Or you hit twice with your nail. As you can see there's not a super great strat in this case. Focus more on not letting it happen. The more you practice and get better at the game, the easier it will get for you to deal with scenarios like these automatically||

[orchid flower]

I’ve probably been playing too passively with them

Thanks for the advice, I’ll practice that more next time I have an hour to dedicate to him

[shut sparrow]

gl!

[carmine holly]

any tips for beating ||hornet|| in ||kingdoms edge||

[thick wing]

||Hit the spiky things so that they don't accumulate and become too many on the screen.||
||Also try to pogo her||

[river geyser]

|| beat the spike ball things away when you can, practice avoiding the trajectory of each of the spikes while being aware of her moves (by avoiding the spikes i mean minimal adjustments so you can focus on hornet as well), utilize shade cloak||

[rain current]

Could anybody help me find ||fog canyon's charm notch?||

[lethal siren]

Help with ||radiant marmu|| pls

[surreal sparrow]

.

[lethal siren]

mkay

[dense torrent]

||sbody|| could also be useful since standing in the corner is a pretty decent strat

[lethal siren]

yea using that

just gotta get lucky with the spawns

just beat her nice

[dense torrent]

nicee

[nocturne holly]

Guys i have a question
||Where does cloth go after i find her for the first time (i dont want traitor lord to kill her)||

[shut sparrow]

||it's near the connection to crossroads||

[shut sparrow]

||you can find her again in deepnest, then in ancient basin. If you don't want her to get killed, make sure not to save her in basin before encountering traitor lord||

||that means don't kill all the enemies around where cloth hides or she will jump out and be saved||

[nocturne holly]

||I js found her in queen's garden but i didnt ever see her in deepnest am i fucked||

[shut sparrow]

yes

[nocturne holly]

God damn it

[shut sparrow]

I assume you did help her in ||ancient basin?||

[nocturne holly]

||yeah but I didn't even know she was there tbh, i was just going for the money||

[shut sparrow]

||yeah then she will die||

[nocturne holly]

Damn it

[shut sparrow]

||she is much happier with this outcome anyway, if that makes you feel any better||

[nocturne holly]

||Oh well, i was going for the godhome flower ending so i guess atleast she'll be happy||

[shut sparrow]

||what does the gpdhome flower ending have to do with it?||

[nocturne holly]

||I need to kill traitor lord for it||

[shut sparrow]

||that's true. You need to kill him for every ending except the normal one||

[old apex]

|| My friends tryna bat hornet||

How do i help him

2nd figh

[smoky lava]

||Does something happen if I overcharmed?||

[jade sedge]

Go try it

Its quite noticeable

[cloud trail]

Any tips for ||the mantis lords || When ||two of them are fighting me||

[old apex]

Js keep moving ig

[old apex]

Purple tingy

W double dmg

[mild linden]

||just keep moving and stay focused||

[mental minnow]

Heal when they are doing their throwing thingy I guess and when it closes in ||dash|| away or pogo other than that keep moving

[mental minnow]

You take extra damage

[carmine holly]

||try and jump over the spinny things when they both throw them.you will be able to tell if its going to be high or low based off of where they are on the wall. try to use vengeful spirit, especially if you have shaman stone. when they dash together in opposite directions, jump over and attack. when they go in the same direction, jump over and attack (again). that pretty much it, have fun!!||

[old apex]

Guys how do i do ||shade skip without mantis claw||

[dense torrent]

in ||Crossroads||?

[old apex]

To ||city||

[carmine holly]

i think you need ||claw||

[dense torrent]

#speedrunning would probably be a better place to ask

[old apex]

Aw :(

[old apex]

Aight

[deft spire]

|| guys im in my first playthrought how can i get true ending without dying or becoming a vessel||

[dense torrent]

what

whatever ending u get will always have the same cutscene

and you dont die in that ending

[empty totem]

Bruh

[dense torrent]

im pretty sure ||hornet|| becomes the ||vessel|| in ||sealed siblings||

[empty totem]

||i did pop yet i didn't get the seal of binding||

[dense torrent]

in ||dream no more|| also known as the ||true ending|| the knight either dies or returns to the ||void|| according to the wiki

[dusk marlin]

what is everything that i have to obtain in ||the hive||

[empty totem]

||hiveblood charm||

[dense torrent]

||2 grubs and a mask shard|| as well

i think thats it

[empty totem]

I forgot abt em lol

[dusk marlin]

do i gotta beat the boss fori t

[dense torrent]

yes

boss also counts as a %

[empty totem]

Yep, he's ez tho

[dense torrent]

runback is horrid tho

[empty totem]

Place a ||dream gate|| first

[dusk marlin]

alrr

appreciate it

[slate vine]

no, she || is sealed with him || kinda locking the car keys in the car.

[autumn orbit]

Just got my ||wings.|| What's my progression in %? Just eyeballing it is fine

[old condor]

not how it works bro , you can either just wait untill you get the ability to see your % or just math it manually yourself

[autumn orbit]

I don't get what you mean, i already have it. But idk how far in the game I am cus this is my first play through

[slate vine]

10% || im kidding||

[autumn orbit]

wade gets it

[slate vine]

theres still alot to do depending on the ending u want.

[old condor]

% is kinda irrelevant to a point on where you are in the game , if you can actually see the % then you already beat the final boss (ish)

[full wigeon]

How can I see my % without finishing the game??

[slate vine]

theres multiple || endings||

[deft spire]

|| which dreamer is eaisest to kill ?||

[slate vine]

well, try ||finishing the game||

[slate vine]

|| they dont fight back lmao||

[old condor]

you can check if there is a mod for it , or just calculate it

[idle yoke]

"Game percentage" refers to how much of EVERYTHING in the game you've done, not how close you are to any ending, which is why your wording is a bit confusing

[slate vine]

stop lurking

[idle yoke]

Me?

[slate vine]

ya ur name

u lurky boi

[idle yoke]

No

I will continue to lurk and help people

Because I'm evil

[autumn orbit]

oh fr? ||can I play through them all in one save?||

[slate vine]

understandable, Have a good day.

[idle yoke]

Yes, but be sure not to lock yourself out of any

[slate vine]

yep be extra careful for that one.

[autumn orbit]

my bad, i didn't know ||about the multiple endings||

[autumn orbit]

How am I supposed to know though

[idle yoke]

Just do the easiest first and then you're safe

[autumn orbit]

Aight then

[idle yoke]

||Just kill the dreamers and then the final boss and that's it||

[surreal ivy]

can you ||resomon the Grim Group thing after banishing them?||

[idle yoke]

Nope

[old apex]

I dont think so

[idle yoke]

Gone forever

For that file

[old apex]

Im keeping the truope so i get the child :D

[idle yoke]

The child sucks though

[old apex]

i like the child :(

[idle yoke]

But ||nkg is fun||

[surreal ivy]

i wanted the ||indestructible strength charm :<||

[old apex]

Gl

[idle yoke]

Should've gotten that before ||banishing||

[old apex]

Getting it

Tff

[deft spire]

any tips for fighting this || dreamer ?||

[slate vine]

cant u get || unbreakable strength || before || banishing grim troupe||

[ionic steppe]

W New Year’s Eve

[slate vine]

patience

[idle yoke]

Be patient, stick to the walls

[surreal ivy]

i didn't know thats what happed when you ||banish them||

[ionic steppe]

In this New Year’s Eve I beat ||path of pain ||

[old apex]

Gg

[slate vine]

chonk

[ionic steppe]

And got nothing but journal entry for beating ||PoP||

[slate vine]

sed

[idle yoke]

Lore

A boatload of lore

[slate vine]

bore

[deft spire]

how the hell do i beat ts gng

[idle yoke]

And 2 sec cutsence

[idle yoke]

Did you try our advice yet?

[ionic steppe]

Exactly

[surreal ivy]

any tips for the ||flower quest|| and ||how to get the rest of the 12% for the full 112%||

[slate vine]

get helped

[idle yoke]

Exactly

[ionic steppe]

It’s ez

[deft spire]

ts aint || dreamer||

[vague fern]

Dont be unhelpful

[idle yoke]

For the ||delivery,|| clear every enemy on the path first (DON'T BENCH) and then run through it again. Most enemies won't respawn

[vague fern]

And || dreamgate || at start

[old condor]

just run and hit it when you can untill it dies lol

[deft spire]

when i hit it i bounce

[idle yoke]

Wait for him to come and help

Then you'll see

[slate vine]

start from || traitors child and go back to grey mourner || and head back the same way || without all the annoying enemies|| (||DO NOT BENCH IN FOR THE ENTIRE PROCESS||)

[old condor]

yea just get as many hits as you can and then something will happen and you can damage it then , like ||false knight ||situation

[idle yoke]

You don't need to get hits for it to become vulnerable

Just wait

[old condor]

didnt know that , well then just run

[slate vine]

u will be helped. in the fight.

when u are,.

[surreal ivy]

do you know if the ||green flying guys in Gardens respond||

[slate vine]

use || nail arts if u have any ||

[slate vine]

they hurt.

[surreal ivy]

they ruin the run

[idle yoke]

||Mossflies?|| Yes, they respawn when you leave the room

[slate vine]

what part.

[idle yoke]

If you're talking about ||the flying mantis traitors||, then no

[surreal ivy]

no i think their chill with me

[idle yoke]

You may be getting these enemies mixed around

||The Mantis|| throw the projectile

[slate vine]

r u talking about the extra foot long flies that fly in a very horizontal direction.

[surreal ivy]

im talking about the ones on the ||bottom path to get to the room for the flower quest||

the curler ones

[idle yoke]

What's their moveset

[idle yoke]

Yeah that's ||Mantis||

[slate vine]

nah im confused.

[idle yoke]

I think?

[slate vine]

send pic

[idle yoke]

What is a "curler"

[surreal ivy]

the green fluff balls

[idle yoke]

That's ||mossflies||

They respawn when you leave

[surreal ivy]

i miss spelled

those are the ones that slip me up

[idle yoke]

They don't even attack and hardly move 😭

But

[surreal ivy]

i run into them

[idle yoke]

To each their own

[idle yoke]

Look where you're going
Be careful

[surreal ivy]

yah 😭

i might just be bad tbh

[idle yoke]

You might wanna try exploring more before doing that quest

It's not the easiest on your first playthrough

[slate vine]

js k i l l em

[surreal ivy]

i have like everything done besides ||godhome||

[idle yoke]

Wow okay that's pretty good

[slate vine]

what || nail do u have||

[idle yoke]

Well, keep trying, you'll get it

[surreal ivy]

||the best one||

[surreal ivy]

ive been at it for like an hour so far today 😢

[idle yoke]

Most important rule of gaming and best tactic for everything:
Take breaks.

[surreal ivy]

yah i know but i could also pull a souls game and not stop trying till i get it

[idle yoke]

Lol

[surreal ivy]

im so happy you got that reference

btw ||after you give the flower to the one guy do you haft to come back to the Grey Mouner for the mask shard?||

[idle yoke]

Yes

[deft spire]

guys || i just broke one of the dreamers so if i go to the egg now what will happen ?||

[idle yoke]

You'll see the landscape has changed

But the door isn't open yet

[surreal ivy]

ok thanks!

[deft spire]

i alr saw when i got || monarch wings||

[idle yoke]

Ah
Get the other ||dreamers|| go go go

[deft spire]

which onedo i go for ?

[idle yoke]

Whichever you want

[deft spire]

they are all the same ?

no boss fight with them ?

[idle yoke]

1 has a boss guarding him, 1 doesn't

[deft spire]

and 3rd ?

[idle yoke]

They don't fight themselves

[idle yoke]

You just got the 1st

2 more

[surreal ivy]

||the enemies will be harder to fight at crossroads like more health or more aggressive||

[deft spire]

i alr saw that when i got, || monarch wings||

[surreal ivy]

ah ok

[deft spire]

how can i defeat the || watchers knight ?||

the first one i can kill him easliy

bu the 4 others nah

i killed one through the chandelier

[surreal ivy]

||you have the better dive sorry cant rember name||

but just ues that for the eye frames when they ||jump on you or doge||

[deft spire]

i got it

[mortal zodiac]

||Guys, I just beat NKG in pantheon 5...||

2 bosses left

Nvm, i died at ||pure vessel||

[primal tangle]

can sb help me

i cant find the way

through

there

[shy dove]

where r
u going

[icy matrix]

||u forgot to break it from the other side||

[shy dove]

oh

GG

[primal tangle]

[worn prism]

||Fog Canyon: What is the spell/charm that protects me? From which area do I get it? And where do I get the map?||

[primal ibex]

You won’t be getting a map for there for a long time

And wdym by that first question

[steel raven]

do yall know how to delete the data

[primal ibex]

Like all of your data in the game?

[worn prism]

I’m dead

[steel raven]

ye

[primal ibex]

You’re on pc?

[steel raven]

ye

[worn prism]

someone told me about that i didn't understand him so i'm asking

[primal ibex]

Idk what exactly you’re talking about sry

[steel raven]

ye

uh

[primal ibex]

I’m not that sure

[worn prism]

Don’t mind me, I’ll keep messing around.

[lone bough]

happy new year guys?

[dense torrent]

am i the only one who finds ||pv|| to be harder than ||abs rad||

im struggling so much with ||pv|| but consistent with ||abs rad||

i might just have a skill issue

[native tinsel]

I think that’s the opposite of an skill issue

But yeah I think you are the only one haha

[cloud trail]

Best charm combo? i mostly use nail

[native tinsel]

Do ||q slash, mop, and catcher||

And if you need ||compass replace catcher with compass and steady body||

[dense torrent]

i think ||pv|| is just more rng based idk

cuz if u get a bad attack combination with ||abs rad|| the solution is usually just ||ddark||

[native tinsel]

Nah ||pv is very predictable imo and I really hate those orange balls from absrad||

[dense torrent]

same

the only time they arent annoying is in the platform part

most of the time they spawn close to the ground in phase 1 and 2

so you cant even ||dash|| under them

[vague fern]

Theyre alot easier on grounded

Do a little hop away from them to bait them up, then you can just go underneath

[storm oriole]

Yo guys I killed the ||would master || what happened to ||myla||

Soul*

[final remnant]

I got to ||phase 3 soul master|| how many ||phases|| are there?

[dense torrent]

theres 2 phases

[final remnant]

what, I finshed 2 phases and they aren't even dead yet

[dense torrent]

wait wdym

[final remnant]

they rested 2 times

[dense torrent]

ohh

the stagger

[icy matrix]

It needs fast reaction time

[heavy eagle]

bro the stagger is not a stage complete, you'll know

[chrome drift]

||steady body quicknail spell twister shape of unn ig||

[icy matrix]

Stagger is a stun

[bold valve]

stagger is more of a break midfight, it counts number of hits, not the damage

[vague fern]

[final remnant]

bruv, who is stagger, are y'all talking about ms. silksong

[dense torrent]

it depends

[dense torrent]

what u said

thats not a phase

its a stagger

how many there are depends

[final remnant]

oh

[dense torrent]

youll know once you enter phase 2

[heavy eagle]

what

[final remnant]

rate the charms (I need geo)

[heavy eagle]

there was no spoiler that was a gif homeboy

|| https://tenor.com/view/bait-hornet-hollow-knight-gif-5503458344524908864||

and it wont even embed

cant have crap in hollow knight discord

[vague fern]

The bot doesnt know its not a spoiler

[dense torrent]

im the goat ik

[heavy eagle]

it tells me it is and deleted the msg

[icy matrix]

||Stagger is the rest bosses do after certain amount of hits it stuns them giving u chance to heal to hit more||

[heavy eagle]

ty

[vague fern]

Because the bot cant see images

[vague fern]

So you have to spoiler them

[heavy eagle]

1984

[final remnant]

wait so how many ||staggers|| until ||phase 2 in soul master||?

[dense torrent]

pretty sure it depends

[heavy eagle]

depends on dps, just play the boss until you get to the phase 2, you'll know when u reach it

[bold valve]

depends on your damage, again it counts the number of hits and not the damage itself. but most bosses only have 2-3 staggers per phase unless severely under or overpowered

[final remnant]

damn, I'm greedy, so basically my soul was in the boss arena and I wanted more geo so I went to fight 2 ||soul twisters|| then I died and lost all my geo

[distant mirage]

by ||soul|| you mean ||shade||?

[final remnant]

yeah

[jaunty socket]

||Is there any way to deposit your geo after beating up the scammer||?

[dense torrent]

idk bru

[final remnant]

||beating up is the scammer is how you deposit the geo||

[jaunty socket]

?

[bold valve]

nope

[frail musk]

If you need a lot of Geo, the artifacts help a lot

[final remnant]

||by beating up the scammer you get your money back||

[lean pilot]

Its a one time investment

[distant mirage]

Guys any tips for ||p5||

[dense torrent]

yes

do ||hog asc||

if u want to do it easily

[final remnant]

xbox better

[dense torrent]

or

[lean pilot]

Practise, especially

[dense torrent]

do every boss

[jaunty socket]

||Yeah I know, but I'm just wondering if I can deposit my money somewhere so I don't have to walk around with a ton of it and accidentally die twice somehow and lose it all||

[frail musk]

Embed fail

[lean pilot]

Nah

Sorry man

[frail musk]

I’m a loser

[vague fern]

get full gear, get a good build, get || lifeblood from bindings || if you need. But just practise in || hog ||

[lean pilot]

Marko my

[lean pilot]

Tell us how

[frail musk]

Use ||Confessor Jiji to get your Shade|| back in risky situations

[final remnant]

||should I buy a mask shard or a vessel fragment?||

[lean pilot]

Which ever is closer to completion ig

[dense torrent]

im just too pro

[frail musk]

Which one is closer to being full?

[distant mirage]

Neither I say save up for ||lantern|| unless u already have it then buy ||mask shard||

[final remnant]

both are one piece away from being full, btw this is my first of both of them

[final remnant]

what does || lantern|| even do?

[frail musk]

Get the ||Lantern|| first for sure

[distant mirage]

Light up dark areas

[frail musk]

||Geo|| will start to come in droves soon

[final remnant]

I have perfectly good eyes

[lean pilot]

Some later game areas lack light

Even on max brighness you can see much

[distant mirage]

You won't be able to access specific areas without it. It's a game check i think

[lean pilot]

||pure memory deepnest ||

[frail musk]

Like not even just ||Crystal Peak, I wouldn’t want to go into Deepnest without the Lumafly Lantern||

[lean pilot]

Hollow knight no geo% go brr

[final remnant]

do I need it at ||crystal peak||?

[frail musk]

Yeah

[distant mirage]

There are 2 ways to access ||crystal peak||

One including ||lantern||

[lean pilot]

And a secret nice ability upgrade

[dense torrent]

its useful though in there other than for access

theres a few dark areas

[final remnant]

||up dash?||

[lean pilot]

Me when i ground stomp

[narrow lake]

Thats unfortunately not a thing unless you count || double jump/ monarch wings ||

[final remnant]

you get it ||after beating soul master|| though

[dense torrent]

wrong

[distant mirage]

Nope

[dense torrent]

that goes down

and its not a ||dash||

[distant mirage]

U get an ability that || soul master|| uses to attack

[lean pilot]

Ground

[lean pilot]

There is a mod that adds ascending soar or smt

[final remnant]

oh, I thought you get the ||up dash|| when you beat them, how is ||ground pound|| even helpful

[lean pilot]

Some secret areas, and also in combat

[dense torrent]

it lets you break certain things

[distant mirage]

Unlocks new areas and it's really op. Do not underestimate it

[frail musk]

If only you knew…

[narrow lake]

It gives to immunity for a second as well, and it also has like an aoe shockwave

[frail musk]

||DDark|| saves lives man

[narrow lake]

That it does

[final remnant]

I BEAT THEM

that second phase was really easy

[narrow lake]

beat || soul master || ?
If so nice! Gl with the rest of your run ^^

[final remnant]

I love this ability

[heavy eagle]

Bro went from this is useless to I love it in like a minute

[thin mural]

hi I'm playing through hk for the first time and am stuck on ||soul master.|| any tips would be much appreciated I suck at this game so bad 😭

[dense torrent]

when the ||fireballs|| come at you stand by the edge of the arena and jump straight over them

or walk slightly forward

and when the ||fireballs|| are surrounding him then go back to the other side you can heal

[heavy eagle]

also pray

[dense torrent]

for phase 2 do this strat but stay near the boss

[deft spire]

|| any tips on mantis lords||

[heavy eagle]

Most bosses in hk just require you to learn the rhythm

[thin mural]

my main problem is actually getting to hit him at all ||cos he keeps teleporting.||

[dense torrent]

you have to play pretty defensive

[lean pilot]

||Oblobbles my favorite rhythm ||

[dense torrent]

only when he comes to you should you hit him

[heavy eagle]

More of a patience fight

[dense torrent]

unless youre really confident

he'll run towards u

which is a good chance to get 2 hits

[heavy eagle]

I said most.
I will DESTROY ||OBLOBBES RAHHH||

[dense torrent]

other than that you dont wanna go towards him

unless hes pretty close

[lean pilot]

Tbh watching a hitless run helped me

[heavy eagle]

I begrudgingly did that boss hitless

Worst mistake of my life

[dense torrent]

heal between phase 1 and phase 2 as well

when he starts teleporting everywhere

[narrow lake]

Adding onto this ^
After phase 1 when he breaks the floor, if you stay close to the left wall you can sit up there for a sec to recover before phase 2

[final remnant]

I have 670 geo, what should I do with it (I'm going to ||crystal peak||)

[dense torrent]

depends on what u have

send a pic of ur inv and charms

[heavy eagle]

Do u have ||lantern||

[thin mural]

ok ok ty. before now i was trying to just go to other areas for better stuff to help because that worked with ||soul warrior|| (only beat him after getting ||shaman stone|| and the ||lifeblood charm|| lol) but ill p try a few more times now

[dense torrent]

||spells|| are actually really useful for this fight so ||shaman|| wouldnt be a bad idea

[dense torrent]

just save your geo for now

[final remnant]

I can't do that, I'm bad

[heavy eagle]

Rip

[dense torrent]

what ||dirtmouth|| shops do u have

typically anything from those are a good idea

[final remnant]

||My pookie Sly||, ||Iselda||, and that snail

[dense torrent]

buy whatever is in ||slys shop|| other than ||rancid eggs||

his shop is peak

[final remnant]

||mask shard or vessel?|| hmmm

[narrow lake]

speaking of || lantern || , is it necessary for anywhere else in ||peak || you need it for if you have || dive || ?

[dense torrent]

||mask shard|| fs

i recommend saving your geo tho

unless u really wanna spend it

[dense torrent]

its not "necessary" since it just provides light

but there are some dark places

where it will be useful

[narrow lake]

Oh rightttt. Isnt it necessary for ||DDark || ? Unless you do dark rooms like a speedrunner

[dense torrent]

yeah one of the rooms to get to there is dark

past the ||bench|| which is also in a dark room

[final remnant]

||LANTERN|| IS NEEDED!?

[dense torrent]

no

however its useful for something later

not what you need to go to ||crystal peak|| for though

[heavy eagle]

The beginning for the toll iirc

[heavy eagle]

There's two entrances to it and one requires it

[dense torrent]

he has ||desolate dive|| tho

so hes good

[final remnant]

6 MASKS LET'S GO

[heavy eagle]

o right

I should sleep

gn hk chat

[dense torrent]

gn

[heavy eagle]

[narrow lake]

gn!

[final remnant]

gn

I COULD'VE SAVED MY GEO

[dense torrent]

chat i just got past ||pv|| in ||p5||

wish me luck

im starting ||abs rad|| on 5 masks 🥀

[distant mirage]

Good luck

[final remnant]

||GRUB FATHER GAVE ME A FRAGMENT||

[narrow lake]

you got this gl

[dense torrent]

oh nevermind it automatically heals me

i think i got this

[distant mirage]

U can do this

[dense torrent]

alr platform part

omg i beat it

so pro

[final remnant]

I forgot where ||myla|| is

[vague fern]

gg

[chrome drift]

huh

[vague fern]

Friend

[chrome drift]

damn i guess i will fight myself

[dense torrent]

step a bit closer for a surprise

[old apex]

Def not ||nosk||

[slate vine]

its moments like these, why I like the help channel

Lmao

[final remnant]

I hate not having maps

[lean pilot]

Mimic

[warm wyvern]

what do i do here

[lean pilot]

Right side of the center wall

[warm wyvern]

ok ty

[warm wyvern]

how do i do that?

[dense torrent]

||dash + monarch wings||

[warm wyvern]

||dash|| and then ||double jump?||

[dense torrent]

wait which room is that

cuz i think i might know that one

[bright hamlet]

how much time does ||pop|| take?

[dense torrent]

depends

usually 30 mins to 2 hours

[warm wyvern]

the first in the 2nd part of ||path of pain||

[dense torrent]

watching a guide first will reduce the amount of time it takes by a lot so that you understand the rooms

[bright hamlet]

say first timer

[dense torrent]

depends on platforming experience still

id say 45 mins to 1 hour 15 mins

[bright hamlet]

alr thanks

[dense torrent]

also charms are a huge factor

[compact notch]

does ||cyclone slash|| have any good usages

[dense torrent]

alr one sec

[bright hamlet]

||just hiveblood and grubsong and deepfocus?||

[dense torrent]

focus charms arent needed

theres infinite soul totems everywhere

[bright hamlet]

what do u recommend

for a build

[dense torrent]

|||hiveblood, longnail/mark of pride (better but easier to hit your head)||

you can add more but thats pretty much it

[dense torrent]

this?

[smoky lava]

||When do I fight Radiance bruh I completed all 40 charms||

[bright hamlet]

aight, thanks

[silver fog]

how much hits with || the coiled nail and unbreakable strength does sentinel hornet take to kill ||

[dense torrent]

@warm wyvern

[dense torrent]

i will get the calculator

[bright hamlet]

||shaw 2 is 720 health right?||

[dense torrent]

700

[polar flicker]

27

[dense torrent]

27 times

man i was so close

[bright hamlet]

/jk

[silver fog]

Ty

I killed her

[warm wyvern]

what do i do after that

[dense torrent]

go up

then right

[warm wyvern]

ok

[shy crypt]

Can someone help me? I was exploring the Land of Rest, but the map npc wasn't there because I had already explored other areas, but the map wasn't available in Dirthmouth.

[dense torrent]

interact with the note left by ||cornifer|| in the ||resting grounds|| and then try

also you need to spoiler mark ||dirtmouth||

[shy crypt]

ok ,thks

[shy crypt]

This isn't working, could my game be bugged?

[native tinsel]

Is the map still not available in ||dirtmounth||?

[shy crypt]

yeah

[native tinsel]

Strange

Idk what could help, maybe explore the area and interact with the dialogue you can find

[shy crypt]

Alright, I'll try that.

[dense torrent]

restart your game maybe

if it is bugged its not a big deal

[smoky lava]

||Yo how Do I dodge Grimm's atk when hes doin the ball thing||

[dense torrent]

since ||resting grounds|| is only useful for like 2 things

which are both like 30 seconds away from eachother

[native tinsel]

The maps are needed for 112 right?

[dense torrent]

no

[native tinsel]

Alr

[shy crypt]

Ok, I'll just restart the game and see if it works

[dense torrent]

if it doesnt you dont need to worry

its a very small place with few important items

[shy crypt]

alright.

[plain furnace]

||What build should I use for Nightmare King Grimm ?||

[dense torrent]

send a pic of ur charms

[plain furnace]

I have all of them

[dense torrent]

do u have all ||notches||

[plain furnace]

yes

[dense torrent]

||strength, quickslash, shaman, grubsong, sbody/longnail||

when he does the flame pillars use ||abyss shriek||

thats 120 free damage

normally youd only land 2 hits there

which totals to barely over half of an ||abyss shriek||

also if you mess up an attack with nail u can still get damage with ||spells||

[plain furnace]

I see

I will try that after I beat the ||Radiance||

[dense torrent]

gl

[plain furnace]

thanks

[deft spire]

|| what can i do with rancid egg ?||

[distant mirage]

U can give them to ||confessor jiji|| who you need a ||simple key|| to acess

[dense torrent]

theres an npc in ||dirtmouth|| you can give them to

[deft spire]

how does he look like

[dense torrent]

far right side of ||dirtmouth||

[deft spire]

what does he give back ?

[dense torrent]

it summons ur ||shade||

[deft spire]

|| past shade ?||

[dense torrent]

pretty sure it has to currently be on the map

[deft spire]

ima try rn

[fallow tide]

YES I DID THE ||FLOWER QUEST||

tbh it was harder than ||colosseum 2||

ty i dont remember wh oti was

who gave me the ||dream gate|| tip and like killing everything in the route

[vague fern]

@elfin ferry

[fallow tide]

oh yea it was them

ty spectre

[chrome drift]

YESS

I ONLY NEED 1 MORE ACHIEVEMENT

[dense torrent]

lucky

i need 20 more

which achievement?

[chrome drift]

and its completing ||p5 ||

i died on ||nkg|| so many times

[dense torrent]

gl

[chrome drift]

thanks

well its the problem for tommorow me ig

[dense torrent]

its actually not too hard

it took me like 8 hours but i over practiced

[elfin ferry]

you’re welcome :)

[fallow tide]

how do i unlock the room u can do ||white defender|| in btw

[dense torrent]

break a breakable floor

[fallow tide]

i cant find it :(

hlep wheres the breakable floor

nvm found it

[dense torrent]

nice

[fallow tide]

what ||charms ||for ||white defender||?

[primal ibex]

||mop, longnail, shaman, spell twister||

[fallow tide]

any tips for him?

[nova swift]

me and my friend have hollow knight mobile version but we have a weird bug when he gave me his save file to beat a boss for him both his previous and current save file stopped saving literally do y'all have any solution for this?

[spiral cedar]

can someone help me how to defeat || Mantis Lords|| been stuck on them for over 1h now

[sly ivy]

1h? not that long lmao read and react to their attacks.

[fallow tide]

well stay in the middle during the 2nd phase heal during the ||double ring attack|| and uhh during the ||double dash attack|| the you ||pogo||

[spiral cedar]

i mosty get hit when they both jump on me

[sly ivy]

||dashing can help you get out of that uhh I guess you can get on a wall if you run out of space||

[topaz perch]

What charms should I use for ||hornet sentinel||

[shut sparrow]

what do you have

[sly ivy]

How's your playstyle?

[topaz perch]

Idk

[spiral cedar]

i will try thanks

[topaz perch]

I don't remember all

[shut sparrow]

can you send a screenshot?

[topaz perch]

I can't. I'm not playing right now

[quasi vessel]

Try to use DPS increase charms that feel comfortable, ||quick slash|| is nearby so you can grab it

[topaz perch]

I have ||7 notches||

[topaz perch]

Can you take screenshot from map and mark the area

[quasi vessel]

||Shaman Stone, quick slash, steady body, fragile strength are rlly good charms u can grab||

[quasi vessel]

Lemme try

[topaz perch]

I dislike ||fragile charms||

[quasi vessel]

Yh understandable, I never used them till upgrade

[topaz perch]

Is there difficult parkour

[quasi vessel]

No, its rlly simple, its hidden behind like a breakable wall next to an anvil

[topaz perch]

Anvil?

Is it a background object

[quasi vessel]

It's hard to explain, u can check the wiki ||https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Quick_Slash
||

Or u can look for a vid

||Shaman Stone is also rlly helpful, its in forgotten crossroad for rlly cheap||

[topaz perch]

I like ||quick focus|| and it takes ||3 notches|| so I don't really have space for it

[quasi vessel]

Yh its a nice charm, personally I never used it much but I heard its great

[dense torrent]

its good but there are better charms for ||hornet sentinel||

[topaz perch]

I also like saving ||soul|| for ||focusing||

[quasi vessel]

||Hornet already gives giant healing windows so quick focus is pretty redundant||

[fallow tide]

what do the other ||dreamfights ||give? after u do the first one and get ||essence||(||white defender||)

[sly ivy]

I think ||Quick Focus|| gives you better chances at lower skill.

[quasi vessel]

||U can just heal between staggers or when she does the tentaccle attack||

[dense torrent]

same thing ||white defender|| gave

[dense torrent]

still not very useful for ||hornet sentinel||

[topaz perch]

All just give ||essence||

[dense torrent]

since theres good chances to heal

[fallow tide]

no like.the next ||dreamfights ||of ||white defender|| like the 2dn 3rd idk how many there are

[dense torrent]

they also give ||essence||

[quasi vessel]

Yh you can pretty much rush her and heal between staggers/tentacle attack

[topaz perch]

I do have lower skill.

[quasi vessel]

Use ||dream nail|| to refill soul when needed in staggers too

[sly ivy]

You can literally say that for everything. It's the matter of getting heals off easier.

[quasi vessel]

U already have enough time to heal 2 masks every stagger and 1 mask in tentacle attack generously even if ur a bit slow

Having higher dps lets u get the fight over quicker and essentialy prevents u getting hit

[sly ivy]

Tentacle? It's ||Hornet 2||

[topaz perch]

How to deal with the ||spiky balls||

[quasi vessel]

||Idk the name of the attack, her shaw attack where she attacks in a circle||

[sly ivy]

But you can deal more damage if you can live longer.

[quasi vessel]

Hit them as soon as they spawn

Focus on the spikes before pogoing ||Hornet|| to prevent getting hit

[topaz perch]

How many staggers do I likely get in the fight

[quasi vessel]

Living longer increases chances of making mistakes or getting hit, its better to try to get the fight finished quickly

[dense torrent]

depends on damage

[quasi vessel]

Depends on dmg

[dense torrent]

usually 2-7

[sly ivy]

Trying to dish out damage often lead to situations that demand more skill that first time players do not have.

[quasi vessel]

True, ig run a summoner build trust

||Glowing Womb|| finally useful?

[sly ivy]

Eats soul

Wait wrong one

[quasi vessel]

Yh but goofy little guys that explode, its funny, I used it on ||P5 for Abs Rad nail binding||

[fallow tide]

what ||charms ||for ||white palace||?

[dense torrent]

||hiveblood, longnail||

everything else doesnt matter too much

if you dont wanna be patient with ||hiveblood|| add soul charms

[quasi vessel]

||quick slash imo is better than longnail||

[old condor]

just both lol

[quasi vessel]

||it helps if you mistime pogos, longnail often causes u to hit ceiling||

[dense torrent]

for ||wp|| its not that useful but he could use both

[quasi vessel]

yh true

I don't remember wp much, so I may be getting the ceiling spike part confused with ||PoP||

[fallow tide]

?

[dense torrent]

||quick focus|| is useless there

[quasi vessel]

||quick focus|| doesn't help and the wp is built without speed bosting charms in mind so ||sprint master|| might make it harder

[jaunty socket]

||The delicate flower wont be destroyed if I take damage within the "dream world" right? Like the bosses you can fight when using the dream nail||

[quasi vessel]

Btw congrats on ||P5||!

[dense torrent]

ty

[torpid wadi]

Pretty sure it would but I never tested
Why would you do that anyway?

[quasi vessel]

Why would u fight a boss inside of dream when doing it?

[quasi vessel]

I recently finished it myself like a week ago it's a crazy achievement!

[jaunty socket]

Because I thought I was being realistic with my theory

[dense torrent]

this part of the ||path of pain|| is so annoying bro

[old condor]

you can just lb heart or core for the extra lifes instead

[quasi vessel]

||PoP|| is rlly annoying at the last section cuz of timing, like unless ur used to the timing after like an hour u will mess up

[quasi vessel]

Wp? It's better to have ||hive|| so u have inf hp basically

[old condor]

i meant instead of qf and sm

just as extras above