hk-help

[grim arch]

Honestly I'll do that and ||I'll try to minimize the damage I take so I don't have to rely on quick focus as much||

[jade sedge]

Please delete the image because it isnt spoiler tagged

[empty loom]

how can i get there?

[jade sedge]

||Thats where you came from, you cant go back||

[empty loom]

I came up from higher tho

anyways whats ||the best build for path of pain||

[jade sedge]

||Oh my bad i got the place wrong, but im fairly sure thats still a place you have been in and completed, so theres no coming back. And in case i am wrong again, it'll open if you click a switch but im fairly certain this time||

||Charms dont matter much at all, but nail charms for pogoing help slightly, and gsong is good to have. If you want to be absolutely certain, hiveblood or dfocus isnt a bad idea but you wont probably need either||

[empty loom]

yeah i think thats ||the parkour you do when you first enter the white palace to pull those 2 switches for the elevators||

[simple island]

iirc in that room you come from a|| vertical transition, and you have a right and left path which closes when you hit their respective orbs
(and on reenter you do just enter from a dreamgat ish portal||

[empty loom]

what about something like that

[simple island]

||dashmaster ||may or may not hurt you, if you dash downward accidentally

[empty loom]

what do i put in its place

[simple island]

and personally I would recommend ||deepfocus over hiveblood
both give basically infinite soul with grubsong, but with deepfocus you spend less time healing||

[simple island]

idk, ||spell twister|| because its a good charm ? it doesn't really matter

[slender quiver]

||If I remember correctly theres a room in godhome unlocked by beating all bosses in the hall of gods but do I have to do them all radiant or is attuned just fine?||

[forest nest]

|| in that rooms there's a trophy and the trophy gets better depending on what level you defeated all bosses ||

[slender quiver]

I see

Thank you!

[forest nest]

Np

[dusk ferry]

uh i have a question

do you need to fight nightmare king grimm for the hunter's entry? and do you need to fight him to get 112%?

[slender quiver]

Dude dude put spoiler on your messages first of all

Second of all, yes

[dusk ferry]

ok

i guess i wont ||seal him away|| then

[slender quiver]

You do get an achievement for that as well put do it in another save file.

[dusk ferry]

ok

ill ||seal him|| in another save file

i dont think ill beat ||steel soul mode||

[thick wing]

||hornet greenpath help||

[raven bobcat]

she's very slow, just learn her attack patterns and move out of the way with a few hits in between

[brave holly]

u gotta tag it boi

[thick wing]

?

[brave holly]

?spoilertag

what was the command

.

[thick wing]

ok

sorry

[brave holly]

oh nvm

dw

[thick wing]

i tagged it now

[brave holly]

alr ty

[thick wing]

if i am stuck at ||hornet|| then im fucking cooked.

will try will try

i play in mobile

on*

[brave holly]

ur cooked

[thick wing]

yes...

[grim arch]

You're done for vro 😭

[raven bobcat]

don't worry you'll come back to this fight later and realize how easy it was

[raven bobcat]

I completed the whole game on mobile and it's definitely possible

[brave holly]

you realize the other areas are blocked by ||dash|| right? even if he went to explore other zones he wouldnt be able to reach ||mantis village or city||

hes rn stuck there till he beats her

[thick wing]

yes.... ||dash||... i know

i am she/her btw.

[brave holly]

ik

i was replying to luis tho

[raven bobcat]

I didn't say she could skip the fight entirely

[thick wing]

i already explored these locations,|| i was always stuck because walls were too high.||

[thick wing]

i skipped ||false knight||

[brave holly]

hes the only one u can skip the fight i think

but if this helps u a little,|| u can spam vengeful spirit to do massive dmg||

just focus on avoiding the attacks

[thick wing]

to ||hornet||?

[brave holly]

ofc

[thick wing]

how much damage is one ||vs|| equivalent to one nail swing?

[brave holly]

||i mean the default nail does like 4 point of dmg and vengeful spirit without upgrade does around 10 or 15, or even higher||

[thick wing]

whoa

i heard you need ||75 nail hits to defeat hornet||

is that true?

[raven bobcat]

she has ||255|| health iirc

something along those lines

so basically yeah

[thick wing]

also when to heal?

in that fight

[brave holly]

when u feel safe

just dont risk

[rapid yacht]

during stagger

[plucky dome]

||45 if you don't use any spell||

[thick wing]

the ||silk flail attack||?

[thick wing]

||45 nail hits without VS?||

[plucky dome]

Yeah, and ||1 vs = 3 nail hits||

[thick wing]

nice... hope it worksss

||also when to heal you have any answer?||

[raven bobcat]

when she's staggered

[thick wing]

i never ||staggered|| her

[wet kraken]

||tips for white defender in p4||

[rapid yacht]

atack more

[thick wing]

ok

then she launch a nuclear bomb and i instantly die

[raven bobcat]

after you hit her a certain amount of times she will stop attacking for a moment that's your chance to heal

[brave holly]

abuse|| abyss shriek||

[wet kraken]

||he’s my only struggle other than pure vessel||

[thick wing]

|| soul catcher charm OP ||

[wet kraken]

I suck with ||spell builds||

[rapid yacht]

like when ||she sends out the needle, get some hits in before it comes back||

[brave holly]

didnt say u had to use one

[wet kraken]

Plus, ||I shred literally every other boss with nail||

[wet kraken]

Oh

Is it just that op in this fight?

[brave holly]

just use it when hes on the air if yk what i mean

[wet kraken]

Yeah

[rapid yacht]

||Hornet cannot launch a nuclear bomb ||

[light needle]

trying to find a way to proceed. ||in some paths i find a black wall blocking me or some bouncy mushrooms but i cant effectively use them to go up. im mostly thinking of buying the simple key from sly and find a way to proceed from there||

[brave holly]

u gotta do platforming

[plucky dome]

||downslash the mushrooms before landing on them||

[plucky dome]

They can't reach that yet

[brave holly]

true

[brave holly]

go over there

[sleek crest]

anyone have tips for ||radiant marmu||

[brave holly]

pray

[sleek crest]

that bad huh?

[slender quiver]

Just like spam up slash.

[sleek crest]

tried that but thanks

[raven oar]

What are some good charms for ||NKG?|| i have some trouble with it

[brave holly]

any charm that gives u hp or more iframes, or just dmg

also try dodging more

[raven oar]

Hmm ok

Thanks

[pulsar tundra]

Like what does it even do

[dire tartan]

You get a vessel fragment if you drop 3000

[slate haven]

How should I practice/get ready for || Pantheon 5 || ? Just || murder every boss on ascended || ?

[sleek crest]

not ||every boss necessarily, just grind the ones you find particularly difficult until you can consistently beat them.||

[thick wing]

aren't you also supposed to spoiler images?

[pulsar tundra]

Oh sorry

[rain narwhal]

yes

[pulsar tundra]

How do I do that I already sent

[thick wing]

you can't

[slate haven]

Any tips for || Marmu || ? It also manages to get hits on me

Just unpredictable for me even tho its such a simple boss

[pulsar tundra]

Sorry I didn’t know this

Also uhm, what do I do in ||infected crossroads||? I think I’m stuck there

[thick wing]

it's ok but please be careful

[inner robin]

Please spoiler tag this message

[wind bluff]

If you are talking about the ||bubble walls obstructing 2 passages between rooms, it's possible to go around them, there's no forever blocked rooms||. But where exactly do you need to go?

[pseudo wing]

i have no idea if i did my playthrough great as looking at some videos they choose difrent paths

[wind bluff]

Like, did you just got the ||dream nail|| and wondering where to go?

[pulsar tundra]

Yeah but ||I got back in forgotten crossroads and everything was infected like the orange bubbles y’know?||

[grim arch]

||Infected crossroads is permanent and now you have to go and kill all 3 dreamers.||

Edit: ||If you don't know who the dreamers are they're the three jerks who banished you to the dream realm in resting grounds||

[slate haven]

When i fight || the nail master brothers || sometimes I parry an attack but still take damage. What am I doing wrong?

[pulsar tundra]

Oh alright ||where do I find them||

[jade sluice]

just don't parry

[jade sluice]

check your map

if you have the ||dream nail you already have the locations on your map||

[pulsar tundra]

Alr thank you

[wind bluff]

Reply is correct, but a few more moments.
||One of them is better with Lantern. Lanternless Deepnest is a separate feat of it's own, don't test the fate.
Second is in Fog Canyon, but I advise to explore the shaft beneath Relic Seeker Lemm first (it requires Simple Key).
Last in the city of tears, but you'll find that your jump height isn't enough to reach there yet. From the eastern side of city, near middle, there's a steady downward exit to a different location.||

[pulsar tundra]

Damn thanks bro

Oops

[sleek crest]

not really

[grim arch]

||a tip: be prepared for bossfights guarding two of the three dreamers||

[sleek crest]

||normal marmu should be simple enough as long as you have a decent charm build and all the upgrades||

||radiant is insanely hard though||

[iron hedge]

||i just defeated the radiance and now that i think about it it was pretty easy ngl i expected it to be a near impossible boss but it was pretty doable so now what do i do i've mostly completed everything||

[slate haven]

||the Radiance after dream nailing the hollow knight?||

[iron hedge]

Yep

[slate haven]

||you should start the GodHome DLC||

[iron hedge]

How do i start that dlc

[vivid fog]

everyone is this pic un-tagged to you?

[iron hedge]

Ye

[slate haven]

If I remember correctly, there should be a box here which you can unlock using a || simple key || . Then || dream nail the guy that pops out of it ||

[iron hedge]

Ok ill do that later thanks

[jade sluice]

yeah before doing that dlc get 107% completion

[pseudo wing]

guys, is it normal that sleeping ||grimchild|| looks like a kitten?

[jade sluice]

no you must exterminate him

otherwise your game will be deleted

[thick wing]

MY ADHD OR WHATEVER IS MAKING ME CLICK ON EVERY SPOILER HELP

[pseudo wing]

i got something for ya then, can i DM ya?

[jade sluice]

just don't stay here

[thick wing]

when i started playing undertale first time, i knew the game better than someone who have finished it like 5 times, i forgot some stuff now, but it was all because of spoilers.

[thick wing]

ok

[jade sluice]

undertale?

[thick wing]

i was when 8 watching undertale videos ok a lot then long later i play undertale all

[dire tartan]

how do I mark stuff as spoilers

[neat nymph]

| YOU do it like | that but with double the |

||

[vivid fog]

thanks

[dire tartan]

oh thanks! ||spoilertest||

[vivid fog]

||like this||

[dire tartan]

Any tips for ||nosk||, other than the stay under the ledge thingy

[neat nymph]

...

its just it

standing under ledge

[dire tartan]

i have trouble with the attack where he ||jumps into the ceiling and drops acid||, any tips for that one?

[neat nymph]

stay on the edge of the map?

[neat nymph]

also please spoilet that

the attack info

[dire tartan]

k

[inner robin]

Here’s some unorganized tips
||Nosk is fast! Don’t chase it, let it’s come to you.||
||Nosk will occasionally stop in the centre of the platform and spit acid so always be careful about chasing it past there (if you must chase)||
||acid rain is best to keep moving from one end to the other but slowly enough so you don’t need to turn around. Also nosk still has a hit box when it’s up there, so if you have any way of hitting it it’s still technically vulnerable!||

||don’t go out of your way to hit nosk in the ceiling though you’ll probably end up getting hit||

[dire tartan]

Does ||monarch wings|| allow you to hit him while ||he’s in the ceiling?||

[inner robin]

Uhh, yeah though it’s not ideal (easy to get hit)

[dire tartan]

cool thanks

[dull garden]

what charms should i use for ||nkg||

[hollow bramble]

Learn his attacks first

U prolly want ||nail range and spell charms ||

[whole owl]

can you enter pop more than once?

[proper frost]

this channel requires that u use discords spoiler tagging feature for all people, places, and things 🐈

||example 🐈 || --> ||turns into this 🐈||

||you can only with a mod
or if you not watch the cutscene and suicide instead||

[shrewd canyon]

how do i open these doors

[jade sluice]

you see that statue

you forgot something in ||forgotten crossroads||

[shrewd canyon]

k

[small swift]

[frosty gazelle]

The ||city crest is very obviously shown to be inside the statue-||

[jade sluice]

is it?

im blind

@shrewd canyon you can't open it again

if u already opened it

[frosty gazelle]

You’ll need to take the ||stagways||

[brittle socket]

||i keep dying to white defender in pantheon 4, but i saw something about being able to desolate dark him while he’s in the ground. It didn’t work for me, am i just messing that up or is that only for dung defender? ||

[jade sluice]

only for ||dung defender im pretty sure||

[wind bluff]

Yes

[brittle socket]

Oh ok thanks, are there any other tips? Im running ||shaman stone, unbreakable strength, quick slash, and long nail || btw

[jade sluice]

i personally would put ||grubsong and steady body instead of long nail||

i don't really have any tips other than just like try surviving first so you can learn his attacks

[brittle socket]

Ok thanks, ill try the charms and ig i just need to practice more in ||godhome ||

[jade sluice]

ah but if you can then you can ||abyss shriek him when he jumps out of the ground||

[lavish igloo]

Can anyone help me with lost kin?

[brittle socket]

Yeah i’ve been trying that

[jade sluice]

i see

[brittle socket]

There’s a cheese strat, but other than that i’d say just don’t jump around too much, only move when needed

[lavish igloo]

Any charms you’d recommend?

[robust ridge]

also spoiler tag ||lost kin||

[robust ridge]

what do you have?

send a screenshot

[brittle socket]

||defender’s crest and minions are decent for taking care of the blobs, he’s pretty easy when you’re just focusing on him ||

[brittle socket]

Oh

[lavish igloo]

?

Is it that bad?

[brittle socket]

This goes for pretty much every boss, but use ||shaman ||

[brittle socket]

No i just did this boss really late game when i had almost everything

[robust ridge]

||try using shaman stone, steady body, and then either quick focus or strength||

[shrewd canyon]

so they're temporary doors

[wind bluff]

Aside from the rest
No ||wayward compass|| looks surreal

[jade sluice]

well it closes as soon as you go through it for the first time

[lavish igloo]

Lol

[tiny oxide]

||WHY THE FUCK IS SECOND HORNET FIGHT SO FUCKING HARD I CANT DO ENOUGH DAMAGE OR DODGE THAT FAST IM GoNNA KMS||

[brittle socket]

Oh yeah i forgot but ||steady body nail builds absolutely shred lost kin ||

[tiny oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-the-hollow-knight-thk-stab-gif-25367426

[lavish igloo]

I feel you Uw

[robust ridge]

just keep trying or come back later

did you get the ||campsite bench||?

||it's meant to be a skill check||

[tiny oxide]

Yes i did, i just cant dodge that attacks with almost no windup

She just attacks

[jade sluice]

i also hate her pathing

its just so random lookinf

looking

[tiny oxide]

yes

[brittle socket]

Yeah its really annoying, but it helps to use ||shade soul (get the upgrade if you havent) to hurt her and knock down the spiky things she sets up. Also use shaman, its easier to hit her and it basically guarantees double hits||

[robust ridge]

||learn to dodge the attacks with one simple movement each and don't actively chase her too much||

[feral ridge]

no idea why i never used || desolate dives i-frames || on any boss

[brittle socket]

For me the windup was too long to justify using it over the other options

[tiny oxide]

Im trying for 2 days, i know that, in the first "phase" i stand still and dodge when she attacks, but i cant with spiky balls

[brittle socket]

|| Use spells ||

[robust ridge]

||use spells to clear them out||

[brittle socket]

Damage and knock them away

[robust ridge]

||spells|| should be tagged

[wind bluff]

||Most of the time she's either charging towards you or throws needle. If the former, I dash to the side, if the latter, great, free damage output. And spike balls can be planned around in time||

[brittle socket]

Oh mb

[tiny oxide]

Yea i do, but i loose at least one mask, and i dont seem to do enough damage

[brittle socket]

Are you running ||shaman stone ||

[robust ridge]

wdym you don't do enough damage? ||they break in one hit to anything||

[tiny oxide]

I dont do enough damage to her, not balls

[robust ridge]

oh

[robust ridge]

can you send a picture of the abilities you have

like your inventory

it's possible you're just there "too early"

[feral ridge]

also do || spells || affect the || spiky balls ||

like

[wind bluff]

Imagine if only ||1 nail upgrade||. Damn

[feral ridge]

do they get knocked back

[tiny oxide]

I get her down 2 times and i get rlly low

[feral ridge]

imagine || NO nail upgrade! ||

[robust ridge]

they get destroyed yes

[tiny oxide]

I just eant to know how close i am to defeating her so i have motivation

[wind bluff]

No thank you

[robust ridge]

we don't know how close you are based off that

||staggers are based off of hit counts, not damage||

[tiny oxide]

Oh...

[robust ridge]

||also if you get enough hits in quick succession she staggers early||

[wind bluff]

So yeah, items screen please

[tiny oxide]

They used a super quatanum computer for her predictions

She just knows where im gonna go, my best bet is standing still but that is hard with spiky balls bc i also need to dodge in a limted space

[robust ridge]

||clear out the spiky balls as quickly as you can, you have some time to do it as she's spawning them (and again use spells to do so)||

[lavish igloo]

I did it

[feral ridge]

He Did It

[lavish igloo]

Thanks @brittle socket

😄

.:D

[feral ridge]

wait what was he trying to do again

|| lost kin? ||

[lavish igloo]

Yeah

[feral ridge]

i think || lost kin || took over 100 attempts for me because uh

sisyphus

Sisyphus Complex

yeah

that was what had me win

i think my charms were

|| defenders crest, quick focus, grubsong ||

[hollow bramble]

No offensive charms and likely under geared so yeah that’s prolly why it took so many tries

[brittle socket]

Yw

[warm jacinth]

hello people! ||does anyone know the frame data of great slash?||

I couldn't find it on the wiki

[tiny oxide]

||im g
Taking a break from hornet||

Imma try tmrw

[light needle]

||do i fight the mantis lords right now? or do i try to find the nailsmith as the bud dude says||

[short kettle]

If you're having a hard time against them, do the latter.

If not, just get them down with.

[brittle socket]

||mantis lords aren’t required, but its gonna take a bit to get to nail upgrade ||

[dire tartan]

If you feel confident in your fighting abilities, try it and see how you do! If you don’t, then yeah, I’d suggest a ||nail upgrade.||

[dark sluice]

it took me 1 attempt lmao

[lavish igloo]

||what charm should i use against hornet 2?||

[proper frost]

||very much depends on what you have||

[lavish igloo]

This

[proper frost]

Your current build is good

You could show ||the other inv page||

[lavish igloo]

Which inv you mean inventory?

With*

[proper frost]

[lavish igloo]

Tf

I did it second try

How???!!?

[wind bluff]

Now that's impressive. Good job

[feral ridge]

okay cool I WAS BAD AT THE GAME MAN😢😢

(was)

i promise im not bad at the game😢😢😢

[lavish igloo]

I had another run that I lost the file

I died SO MANY times to her

I gave up

And now I did this

[short kettle]

That was practice. The hardest bosses on your first playthrough are always the easiest on your next.

[feral ridge]

|| other hornet || was pretty simple. nonetheless took a few attempts for it

[lavish igloo]

Yeah ig

[feral ridge]

|| Mantis Lords || and || Soul Master || were extremely fun to fight on first play through

[lavish igloo]

Fr

They are super fun

[simple island]

Tbh the line between fun and frustrating is very thin, and probably just depends on how you look at the game

Some people get frustrated because they don’t first try everything

[short kettle]

||Soul Master|| wrecked me on my first. Now I can do ||Soul Tyrant|| hitless nearly everytime I fight him.

[feral ridge]

yeah

[simple island]

Some people find it fun to grind bosses and give them some tries

[quasi current]

he also took me around 100 tries but then came || the radiance|| i did him in 2 tries

[shell hornet]

The type of people who'll never beat ||p5 ||lol

[feral ridge]

i remember beating the || soul master || with one mask left and my heart genuinely was racing

[lavish igloo]

Tf is this??

[simple island]

Ehh ||p5|| is very different

[quasi current]

dude i got so many problems with ||p4|| any tips?

[neat nymph]

o h thats me

[quasi current]

especially ||pure vessel||

[lavish igloo]

Tf is this???

[feral ridge]

by beating || soul master || i mean his first phase

[simple island]

Practice them in the ||hall of gods||
Until you can like… beat them ||ascended||

[shell hornet]

Respectable

[burnt siren]

The final boss, probably

[feral ridge]

you can imagine the fear when i saw him reappeae above me

[short kettle]

Any attacks you especially struggle against?

[feral ridge]

regardless i won

[quasi current]

i would say everything, just the whole fight is a pain in the butt

[feral ridge]

offtopic but did anyone else like ascend upon hearing || The Hollow Knights || theme for the first time

[livid shoal]

No

[short kettle]

Start practicing and equip good charms. ||Don't jump unnecessarily and utilise your shade cloak better.

Save the shadow dash for attacks like the where it shoots swords outta its chest. When it lunges towards you, nail bounce. When it does the triple strike, also nail bounce. This one is tricky to learn but it will help you dodge and deal damage way more efficiently.

For the attack where it teleports or jumps above you and tries to land on you, you can do one of two things —

1. Use ddark.
2. If you're confident in your positioning, shift slightly to the left or right and swing upwards. You will hit him without worrying about the knockback because if you hit sideways, it will knock you back into the swords.*||

[quasi current]

alright, you got a charm kit that i could use?
i am using ||unbreakble strnght, quick slash, soul catcher and i think mark of pride||

[short kettle]

||Strength, QSlash, Shaman Stone and Spell Twister. Especially if you plan on doing P5 one day.||

Use ||spells often. Ddark is your best friend.||

[quasi current]

i totally will do ||p5||

[quasi current]

what is ||Ddark 😅 ||

[short kettle]

Yeah, then better get used to beating ||pure vessel|| with a build that will help you in ||p5|| more.

[quasi current]

i will 👍

[short kettle]

||Descending Dark. Your down spell, the dive.||

[quasi current]

ohh alright, thank you

[tacit sonnet]

guys do anyone have tips how to beat minos prime on brutal

[brittle socket]

Who?

[tacit sonnet]

minos prime

[neat nymph]

??

[tacit sonnet]

oh this is the hollow knight server?

[neat nymph]

yes

[tacit sonnet]

mb wrong server

[robust ridge]

you have to first get the double dash by reuniting with badeline

duh

[tacit sonnet]

bye guys

[neat nymph]

bye

[feral ridge]

he was talking about minos prime from the binding of issac

[robust ridge]

that's the wrong game are you dumb

it's cuphead

[dusk vigil]

Hey can anyone help me out, I'm trying to get 112% I've done everything I've seen that I need to do for 112% but for some reason I only have 111%, || I've beaten every boss, gotten all charms, masks, vessels, I'm well over the dream essence I need and I've done 4 pantheons but it still says 111%||

[sinful vortex]

have you done

||trial 3||

||in colosseum||

also spoilers

[robust ridge]

did you ||ascend the seer with 2400 essence?||

[short kettle]

Spoiler tags.

||Have you turned the Seer to dust?||

[feral ridge]

i thought it was dead cells

[robust ridge]

oh ur right

my bad

[dusk vigil]

I have done all of that

[robust ridge]

send a picture of your inventory

[dusk vigil]

Sorry idk what's spoilers and what isn't

[robust ridge]

everything basically

there's a pinned message

[short kettle]

||Beat/banished Nightmare King Grimm?||

[robust ridge]

you can upgrade ||howling wraiths||

[dusk vigil]

Yeah I've done that aswell

[robust ridge]

honestly i'm impressed you made it this far without doing so

[short kettle]

Isnt that upgraded

[robust ridge]

is it

it looks too white

[short kettle]

Oh nevermind it isn't

[neat nymph]

yes

[robust ridge]

nope it's unupgraded

[short kettle]

My guy beat ||p4 without abyss shriek lmao||

[dusk vigil]

THANK YOU

I thought it was upgraded

[robust ridge]

||you were missing arguably the best combat ability in the game lol||

[neat nymph]

upgrating ||howling wraiths|| its hard without knowing exacly how to do it

[sinful vortex]

[dusk vigil]

Maybe it'll help with ||p5||

[short kettle]

Is it? If you come across the room, not really.

[short kettle]

You bet it will.

[robust ridge]

doubles your dps lol

[short kettle]

||It lets you get through bosses like OroMato, Sheo, Grimm, etc way faster. And of course, help with the actually hard fights.||

[robust ridge]

also ||ddark is the best defensive ability in the game||

[dusk vigil]

Oh cool, I always found ||the brothers|| kinda annoying, ||grimm|| isn't bad tho

[short kettle]

||Oh, no, it isn't bout the difficultly of the battles. They're all easy once you get used to it but the shriek massively helps you get through them fast. Because all those bosses are right before rest areas so you can damage tank and shriek spam to get it over with.

With grimm, I get under him during his first pufferfish attack and just spam my shriek. He gets down to like 20% hp with just that.||

[dusk vigil]

I just looked at a video on how to find it, how was I supposed to know to do any of that

[short kettle]

||P5|| is long and gets repetitive so ||shriek just helps with decimating some bosses quickly so you don't waste much time.||

[short kettle]

You must have come across that room before right?

[dusk vigil]

I have but I didn't know what it was for, I did the opposite of what I needed to do, I ||slammed|| all over the place thinking there was a ||breakable floor||

[robust ridge]

||the background looks like the howling wraiths spell||

||also if you dream nail them they say something like "our voices will cry out again"||

[short kettle]

On my first playthrough I played nearly the whole game without ||howling wraiths.||

[robust ridge]

in mine I found it ||before dive||

[short kettle]

So when I got it later during my exploration of ||Queen's Gardens, the first thing I remember was the Abyss Shriek room ||

I went "Oh, this is what they meant, didn't they"

[short kettle]

Yeah, that's the best moment to find it really

You can get it as soon as you get ||claw and it's pretty cracked so why skip it||

[robust ridge]

the balancing on it is so weird

cause you can get it so early but you get the ||upgrade|| so late

[dusk vigil]

Like I said I don't use ||any of the spells|| that much, so when I saw the room I didn't think much of it

Also I can't even get the achievement rn because I have to ||beat the game again||

[short kettle]

||I think its supposed to be rewarding for curious exploration. Because fog canyon is annoying and doesn't have a lot to explore at first so people usually go through it before getting claw no matter what route you take.

To come back to that exact spot of canyon later with claw is probably why the game rewards you with a spell that strong.||

[robust ridge]

just go back to the ||black egg|| and ||beat thk really quickly||

[robust ridge]

I guess that does make sense

[dusk vigil]

Yeah I was thinking of doing that

[hazy spindle]

Could someone give me some ||charm|| recommendations for ||Pantheon of the Knight?|| I have practiced the final fight for it, but I just can't do it

[neat nymph]

im not sure but i think that you should spoiler the word ||charm||

[short kettle]

||Spell Twister, Shaman Stone, Quick Slash, Unbreakable/Fragile Strength||

[robust ridge]

||quickslash, shaman stone, fragile/unbreakable strength, steady body, and nailmaster's glory or grubsong||

[short kettle]

That's not a spoiler

[neat nymph]

oh okay

[robust ridge]

there's a whitelist in pins

[normal skiff]

||guys im about to try the soul tyrant any reccomendations on how to beat him||

[neat nymph]

i did that the same way that ||soul master||

but just with better gear. charms were the same

[merry lotus]

Same, that works really well tbh

[normal skiff]

I beat ||soul master way to early on in the game so i berly had any charms than||

[neat nymph]

so you stronger now

[knotty karma]

What can i do in ||stag nest||?

[normal skiff]

||soul master was pain in my bum hole when i fought him||

[normal skiff]

I have all charms

[neat nymph]

collect like one item and have ||stag ||here

[neat nymph]

oh and feel the vibe of this place

[knotty karma]

Oh

Thats it?

[drowsy bear]

|| Do you have to read the tablet in order to meet all Mr. Mushrooms? ||

[neat nymph]

yea... if there are no other items

[knotty karma]

Why is there a ||weird floor and empty eggshell then?||

[drowsy bear]

just yes or no

[normal skiff]

Is ||soul tyrant harder than lost kin?||

[knotty karma]

No

[knotty karma]

||lost kin is one of the hardest imo||

[neat nymph]

like for the vibe?

[knotty karma]

||soul tyrant is pretty chill, just focus on not taking damage||

[neat nymph]

he was easy for me

[normal skiff]

I had him so easly😭

[knotty karma]

Oh

Alr

[normal skiff]

Does he deal double?

[knotty karma]

No

[drowsy bear]

Then why it doesnt count when I || meet him in fungal wastes? ||

[neat nymph]

i killed him right after killing ||broken vessel||

[normal skiff]

Okay good bc i hate that

[knotty karma]

I tried but i was way underpowered when i dud that fight

[neat nymph]

but im not sure - you can like do ||dive|| to this floor to make sure

[knotty karma]

Alr

[normal skiff]

What is ||the relic seeker|| even for?

[neat nymph]

like i tried the ||broken vessel|| for like month? so i learned every attack

[polar flicker]

Yes for most people

[knotty karma]

Thats a lot of attempts for the easiest boss💔

[polar flicker]

|| to sell stuff for money ||

[neat nymph]

and ||lost kin|| is easier than ||broken vessel||

[normal skiff]

I talk to him and nothing happens

[drowsy bear]

i did him 1st try 😭

[knotty karma]

Also does ||defender’s crest|| have any purpose?

[polar flicker]

Rlly ?

[knotty karma]

Me too fr

[hallow hedge]

hoi

[normal skiff]

Ye

[neat nymph]

um there was like one sometimes 2 attemps a day soo

and not every day

[hallow hedge]

whats ||broken vessel|| again

i forgor

[polar flicker]

|| Where is he when u speak to him ||

[knotty karma]

Its crazy

[neat nymph]

and i was bad at this game at this time

[normal skiff]

In his shop

[hallow hedge]

oh nvm its the ||infected|| guy

[polar flicker]

|| lost kin dream version ||

[knotty karma]

Boss in ||ancient basin||

[hallow hedge]

got it got it

[polar flicker]

Also I meant the opposite

[hallow hedge]

yeah ik

asdfghjkl;

pretty fun

[polar flicker]

|| There shd be a shop option||

Send screenshot maybe

[normal skiff]

Nvm it works now

[knotty karma]

Where do i go now?

[hallow hedge]

uhhhh

maybe get the|| dreamer|| or something

idk

[knotty karma]

Bruh

[hallow hedge]

i mean

[knotty karma]

I got a boss to do before that

[hallow hedge]

idk what you wanna do

[knotty karma]

The uhhh

[hallow hedge]

wuh

[knotty karma]

Idk anything, thats why im asking

[hallow hedge]

ok

whats teh boss

[polar flicker]

Where have u been already

[knotty karma]

Boss here

[knotty karma]

I sent my map

[hallow hedge]

what

oh the ||british knights||

[short kettle]

You're having trouble beating that one?

[knotty karma]

Uh mabye?

[knotty karma]

A lot

[hallow hedge]

you could do it

the telegraph takes like two seconds

[knotty karma]

Spoiler btw

[hallow hedge]

if they're far away and off the screen assume that they are preparing to ||roll into you||

[knotty karma]

And what even is the ||telegraph||

[polar flicker]

||U can go to kingdoms edge and fight a boss for an intresting item ||

[knotty karma]

Yea no way im beating ||hornet 2 atm||

[polar flicker]

|| U could also upgrade one of ur spells u have the item for it ||

[knotty karma]

How do i do that

[short kettle]

||Explore Crystal peaks more.

1. Know the gap in peaks where you fall into Resting Grounds from? Use crystal dash to cross it and get something immensely valuable.

2. Find an item called "Shopkeepers Key" if you haven't. Its somewhere there, not really super hidden.
   ||

[short kettle]

See what I sent. Guiding you towards that.

[knotty karma]

I dod both of these things

[polar flicker]

|| he has elegant key so he already has shopkeeper right ?||

[knotty karma]

I do

[short kettle]

||No you didn't. Your dive isn't upgraded.||

[knotty karma]

But i did

[hallow hedge]

elegant key is for the ||bazooka|| upgrade

[polar flicker]

|| go to the left of soul sanctum there shd be a locked door there which opens with elegant key ||

[short kettle]

Uh then you probably walked past the pickup without getting it.

[knotty karma]

This is my ||crystal peak map||

[knotty karma]

Thank you

[polar flicker]

Ye ik just mentioning he could get tht too

[short kettle]

You missed something in ||Crystallised Mound. Your dive should be upgraded but it isn't.||

[polar flicker]

|| But Obv ddark is the best ||

[knotty karma]

Alr ill check it out

I didnt have ||dive|| so mabye ill find it now

[polar flicker]

||Ye so prob upgrade those 2 spells ||

[knotty karma]

Oks

[hallow hedge]

upgrading helps i think

[robust ridge]

||how do you get good at juggling white defender||?

i can only do it like 6-8 times

[hallow hedge]

nah tbh its more fun just fighting him normally

and more difficult

yall playing easy mode

[robust ridge]

it's harder to juggle him lol

i'm learning it for ||p5ab||

[hallow hedge]

whtats ||p5ab||

[robust ridge]

spoiler tags

[fluid mulch]

||pantheon 5 all bindings ip sure||

[robust ridge]

it's ||pantheon 5 all bindings||

[hallow hedge]

ok

uhhhh yeah the|| juggling|| is jus thard to pull off

dont always rely on it

[normal skiff]

I beat the ||soul tyrant|| took a few tries

[hallow hedge]

yippee

[normal skiff]

Im gonna try ||trial of fools now bc i gave up on flower quest any tips for trial of fools?||

[polar flicker]

|| nailmaster glory is very useful and u can dreamnail the slow enemies to farm soul and keep healthy ||

[lapis sparrow]

is there any way to cheese ||trial of the fool||?

[normal skiff]

||any other charms bc i got all||

[polar flicker]

|| not rlly cheese but u can dream nail the shielded fools to farm soul ||

[lapis sparrow]

im gonna go insane

i can barely even make it to ||wave 14||

[normal skiff]

||god tamer is gonna f me up bc i cant beat him in the pantheon 3||

[polar flicker]

|| strength, heart shaman nmg , steady body , dreamwielder is what I used ||

[normal skiff]

I dont got ||unbreakable heart yet||

[polar flicker]

|| u can also dreamnail the garpedes for extra soul ||

[polar flicker]

|| spell twister/soul catcher works too ||

[normal skiff]

Okay thanks

[polar flicker]

||If ur not finding dreamwielder useful u can use grubsong ||

[normal skiff]

Pata vas geo -sly

[stoic cedar]

||i mean it just comes down to practice but what u should be looking for is when he throws 3 dung balls, its guaranteed that he'll curl up into a ball next so u should be preparing to juggle at that point. but there are two speeds at which he flings himself upwards into a ball, theres a faster speed and a slower speed. i do not think u can do juggling with the faster speed (or at least not in any consistent way, especially without charms as u mentioned u were doing p5ab), so ull just have to let that go. but the slower speed is the ideal speed to do it so once u recognize the slower speed u should position urself under wd to start the juggling. the general flow for juggling is following the direction wd is going, and in the meanwhile swinging up and immediately dash whenever wd curves downwards. so basically for the keystrokes (if u playing kbm, idk how it would look like on controller) u should be holding the up key at all times and whatever direction wd is traveling (if wd bounces off the edge then u might need to stop moving horizontally to account for that), then nail swing (will be upswing from the up key being held) + immediately dash every time wd dips downwards||
||but tbh holding a juggle for 100+ nail swings as is needed for p5ab is really hard, i would still learn how to fight him normally in case u drop the juggle (which is almost an inevitability unless u really have practiced it a ton and have insane consistency at it). ||

[normal skiff]

Is it good to use ||strengh quick slash mark of pride nailmasters glory and grubsong||

[normal skiff]

Damn bro wrote a whole wikipedia page

[polar flicker]

||Ye if u use nail mainly it's great ||

[normal skiff]

Okay bc thats my usual built loll

Okay imma try now wish me luck

[polar flicker]

Gl generally takes a while

[robust ridge]

||oh i didn't know about the different speeds that makes a lot more sense||

||and yeah i can fight him normally i'm just learning both||

[polar flicker]

||Remember always kill the aspids asap||

[normal skiff]

Yes ofc i hate them sm

[polar flicker]

With || great slash ||

[normal skiff]

Okay ty

[rain ridge]

did you make it past ||p3|| @normal skiff

[mellow burrow]

silksong when

[polar flicker]

Tmrw

[robust ridge]

how does his ||back roll|| trigger btw? I get that it's roughly when you're close but I don't want to waste soul for a ||fireball if he's not gonna roll backwards for the double hit||

[normal skiff]

No lol

Im losing my sanity over ||trial of fools|| rn

Did u do it tho?

@rain ridge

[sleek crest]

is there any way to make ||radiant markoth|| not pain

[normal skiff]

Is ||shitkoth|| there is genuinely no way to make him easy

He is pain in my bum holes

To everyone

[slender quiver]

Most things in life are possible, this is not.

[sleek crest]

i'm so close to being done with all of them but he and ||radiance|| are walling me

[normal skiff]

I cant even beat ||gruz mother|| on ||radiant|| 😭

I came close to beating ||troupe master grimm on radiant|| somehow he is easier than ||grus mother|| to me

Maybe bc ||troupe master grimm is my fav fight and i do him over and over i hot at least 2 hour playtime on just doing grimm||

[stoic cedar]

||afaik back roll is just one of the random moves that can occur and only triggers if u r close enough to wd, but there is no definitive pattern to it. i think he always does a back roll at the start of the fight but other than that idk. but ofc to make sure u would need to look at the fsm that determines wd's moves and im not technical enough to find that. and anyways if u dont get a double hit, a single hit is still decent damage in terms of ab, obviously not as much as ddark or shriek but if u watch r5ab runs ull see they use it quite a bit just for that little extra damage||

[jade sail]

@normal skiff ||try dashing between the ||

Platforms

[normal skiff]

Its the spikes bc i always ||dash to far somehow||

[jade sail]

Do you use||sharp shadow||

[normal skiff]

No

I just accidentealy walk after i ||dash||

[jade sail]

I could try a pure DPS build

You

[normal skiff]

Ill try

||i cant belive that i find grimm on ascended/radiant easier than gruzz mother😭||

I jus thave muscle memory on his attacks

[jade sail]

Facts

[shell hornet]

Any ||hard modded boss|| recommendation?

[stoic cedar]

#modding-discussion

[shell hornet]

Right thanks

[urban pasture]

Whats overchamed how do i remove it

[robust ridge]

||when you're using more notches for your charms than you have||

[stoic egret]

||how many times i have to kill the gray prince zote and what i get with it||

[robust ridge]

||just take off the extra charms||

[simple island]

One gives all the rewards

[robust ridge]

10, basically nothing

[simple island]

You can go up to 10 for bragging right and tiny bits of dialogue

[stoic egret]

||why should i so||

[stoic egret]

😢

[simple island]

Bragging rights are kinda cool though…

[urban pasture]

The white dots are notches right?

[simple island]

Yes

[grim arch]

||if you kill him four times then bretta will leave dirtmouth permanently||

[shell hornet]

Can't ||dreamnail ||the statue any more, but ||zote ||is still here, how do I chase him away?

[robust ridge]

you can't

[shell hornet]

Wow

Crazy

I thought I could get rid of this prick

[slender quiver]

Hey dude just go do the ||neglect|| achievement to calm down your nerves.

[smoky shard]

is there a hollow knight btt discord server

[tranquil oriole]

what is btt

[smoky shard]

best theoretical time

like for super mario odyssey

[tranquil oriole]

we just call that comsob, but they’re different for different restrictions

like all glitches, nmms, nmg

[smoky shard]

ik ik

but is the comsob for like every room

or something else

[tranquil oriole]

well i think someone just added up all the roomsobs

[smoky shard]

do you know where i can find the sheet

[tranquil oriole]

i would ask in #speedrunning

[smoky shard]

ty

[civic rose]

can you ||stallball with shade soul?||

[robust ridge]

||no cause it goes through walls||

[keen sable]

How do I block out spoilers in this chat

[urban forge]

they should all be censored

to do it to your own messages put || on both sides

go to the ||dreamer locations|| that should be marked on your map

[keen sable]

I see them but I don’t know how to get to them. There’s dead ends in every direction leading there

[urban forge]

||alternatively you can go through a secret exit at the bottom of kings station to reach a new area||

have you been to ||waterways?||

[keen sable]

I went there already. Is there something I missed?

[urban forge]

did you get ||ismas tear?||

[keen sable]

Yes

[urban forge]

you should be able to reach all of them then

[livid shoal]

You don't need ||Isma's for Herrah||

[keen sable]

There’s a like black pole blocking them

[urban forge]

go round the other side

from ||fungal wastes||

[keen sable]

Thank you

[urban forge]

oh and do you have the lantern?

[fossil igloo]

guys how do I ||extend the cyclone slash?||

[urban forge]

do you mean to get more hits in?

[fossil igloo]

yeah

[jade sedge]

||Spam attack button after releasing it||

[halcyon violet]

||is it normal for void heart to take notches?||

[stoic cedar]

no

[halcyon violet]

You think a mod caused it?

[stoic cedar]

most likely yes

[halcyon violet]

Rip is it fixable

[stoic cedar]

#1057825333841240104

ask here

this channel is for unmodded help

[halcyon violet]

i have scarab off that's why im here

im on vanilla

[stoic cedar]

even playing a save with mods on can have persistent effects after turning off all mods. that is why i would still suggest asking in #1057825333841240104 and providing the relevant information there

[halcyon violet]

aight thanks

[stoic cedar]

hello, please spoiler tag your message as per channel rules

[urban pasture]

Sorry

[fringe lark]

||Grubberflys elegy is strangely good because it only activates when ur at full health which doesn’t matter for radiant Andy way. Still pain tho||

[rain sierra]

id also recommened ||dash slash as well||

[quiet lodge]

||any tip to beat nightmare king grimm? ||😭

[jade sluice]

spoiler tag it

and uhh

do it later after you get stronger

||basically getting good charms and more hp||

[quiet lodge]

i think i have everything

[jade sluice]

other than that just keep trying and learn how to dodge

[jade sluice]

everything everything?

[quiet lodge]

to beat him

yes

[jade sluice]

so for charms i guess use ||quick focus, nailmaster glory, grubsong, fragile strength and whatever else you want||

[quiet lodge]

||every mask and chams||

[jade sluice]

then only attack using ||narts since u won't be able to hit him a lot so using narts is better for damage||

ah when he is ||summoning the pillars of fire when he is making the final one emerge you could hit an abyss shriek so if u want to use shaman stone too||

then its just a matter of learning how to dodge

[quiet lodge]

||its cause grimm was easy ||

||but nightmare king is so hard even with the same attacks||

its just speed

[jade sluice]

well yeah its faster and the attacks are more difficulty

just keep trying

[brittle socket]

Yeah it took me like 8 hours to beat him

Its gonna take a bit

[jade sluice]

i just ||banished him since u can fight him anyways later||

||carefree melody >>> grimmchild anyways||

[brittle socket]

Wait where do you do it later

[jade sluice]

||godhome||

[brittle socket]

They are both useless

[brittle socket]

Oh

[jade sluice]

you don't need to ||do nkg for him to appear in godhome||

[jade sluice]

nuh uh

||carefree is a good defensive charm||

[brittle socket]

Eh its just gambling

[jade sluice]

true

[brittle socket]

And im really unlucky

||speaking of nkg is he in p4? I havent got past watchers yet and now im scared||

[jade sluice]

uhh

i don't remember but i don't think so

yeah no he isnt

[brittle socket]

Oh thank god

I wouldve been fried

[jade sluice]

fried chicken

[brittle socket]

Very much so

||i kinda wanted to try beating every boss on radiant but i remembered nkg exists||

I dont think im gonna do that

[jade sluice]

i think he is kinda easier than others

others like ||fucking obbobles with their weird unpredictable attacks||

atleast ||nkg you can know how to actually dodge||

[brittle socket]

I thought i was just bad for struggling on them in p

Ig it wasnt just me

[jade sluice]

yeah no they are just one of the worst bosses to do in ||radiant||

||marmu and markoth are also annoying||

[brittle socket]

||idk the collector can spawn primal aspids||

[jade sluice]

can't think of others but i think there's more annoying ones

[jade sluice]

just use ||a spell||

wait no

just use ||nail art||

[wild vale]

is the ||third trial in colosseum of fools|| better to use a nail build or a spell build?

[jade sluice]

nail

use your soul to heal

[brittle socket]

Nail

||It helped for me to use a minion charm but im weird so idk||

||grimmchild let me one shot the aspids and it also insta killed the bomb birds||

[robust ridge]

neither

always run mixed

||run quickslash + shaman + sbody + nailmaster's glory + dream wielder + spell twister|| imo

that's what i do

well I guess that's more like a ||spell build||

[robust ridge]

you literally one shot them without

just a normal hit

[brittle socket]

||it really depends, if you get hit a lot then run a nail build cuz u need soul to heal||

[robust ridge]

you won't get hit if you run that build...

the idea is you instakill literally everything

any difficult enemy gets 1 tapped by ||nail arts or shade soul||

also you have plenty of soul to heal with

especially with ||dream wielder|| in there

[brittle socket]

||there are multiple mini bosses...||

[robust ridge]

?

how does that make a difference

there's like infinite time to heal after them

not to mention ||qslash + strength just ragdolls soul warrior around||

so the only issues would be ||mawlek and god tamer||

not to mention half the time it's really easy to camp the last enemy with ||dream wielder|| for full hp and soul

||you just one tap everything in the next wave without any danger and then repeat||

[brittle socket]

Idk i havent tried it maybe its easier than it seems

[robust ridge]

it definitely is

almost every enemy you struggle with gets 1 tapped by ||nail arts or shade souls||

[jade sluice]

? no

[brittle socket]

||also does anyone know how to get zote in dirtmouth? Rn hes in the basement of the colosseum and idk how to free him||

[jade sluice]

||primal aspids don't die in 1 hit, hence the use of narts||

[robust ridge]

are we talking about ||ab||

[jade sluice]

you're thinking of the weaker version

[robust ridge]

no they do in the ||collector|| fight

hp is nerfed

[jade sluice]

what's that

[jade sluice]

u sure?

i don't remember that

[robust ridge]

yes

i literally did ||radiant collector|| earlier today

[jade sluice]

do any ||trial||

[jade sluice]

weird

thought it was still 2 hits

[robust ridge]

oh wait you need ||strength||

[brittle socket]

Oh ok

[robust ridge]

if you weren't using that

but almost all builds do

[brittle socket]

No i was using it

[jade sluice]

i use it

[brittle socket]

And they lived a hit

[robust ridge]

no not normally

they normally live yeah

[jade sluice]

what

[robust ridge]

but in ||ascended/radiant collector|| their hp is reduced from 35 to 26

||pure nail with strength does 32 with reference, 21 without strength||

[jade sluice]

31,5 🤓

[robust ridge]

it gets rounded up

[jade sluice]

wow

[robust ridge]

damage values are weirdly coded

[jade sluice]

team cherry sucks!!

[robust ridge]

like if you use ||fury + strength|| it rounds up after applying each modifier

for some reason

[jade sluice]

even though last time i played hollow knight was months ago i still don't remember needing only one hit

[robust ridge]

i mean the numbers don't lie

and i was playing it earlier today

[jade sluice]

true

[robust ridge]

were you doing ||nail binding|| perhaps

that's why ||the collector is a pain in p5ab||

[jade sluice]

statue

[robust ridge]

prob misremembering then

[jade sluice]

probably

[wild vale]

i get so close to the end just to die to a ||primal aspid|| EVERY TIME i hate this

[jade sluice]

what u doing

[wild vale]

||third trial in colosseum of fools||

[jade sluice]

ah

that thing is very annoying

[brittle socket]

Yeah that was painful

[jade sluice]

i personally would do everything else in the game (getting 106% completion) before that

[robust ridge]

can you show your item screen and your charms?

[wild vale]

im stubborn i have to do it now

i have barely any charms i feel like

[robust ridge]

uh oh

[brittle socket]

I did the same thing 💀

[robust ridge]

can you show your items screen though

there are some things which could be very useful

[wild vale]

after i die because i know i will im in the middle of it rn

[robust ridge]

alr

[wild vale]

here they are

idek what to equip

[jade sluice]

||nailmaster glory, quick focus if you struggle, grubsong, quickslash, dream nail wielder so you can farm soul on enemies easy to dodge like that one witj tje shield and uh ok steady body||

||with narts you can one shot primal aspids btw||

[wild vale]

fr?

betttt

[robust ridge]

||longnail and quick focus -> shaman stone, dream wielder, nailmaster's glory||

100%

[brittle socket]

||a very helpful charm for this is available in the fungal wastes, but i dont wanna spoil much||

[jade sluice]

||strength?||

[robust ridge]

these charms make it like twice as easy

[brittle socket]

Yeah

[robust ridge]

it's not that great here compared to some other options

[jade sluice]

if he keeps dying he will go bankrupt

[robust ridge]

normally it's really good though

[brittle socket]

Idk im one of those kids who refuses to use anything but their nail cuz its more fun

[robust ridge]

||run quickslash, steady body, shaman stone, nailmaster's glory, and dream wielder||
||your nail arts and spells will likely one shot most of the difficult enemies||
||use dream wielder to get a ton of soul and heal up between waves by saving one enemy||

[robust ridge]

if you want to only use nail then go ahead but don't recommend it for ||colo||

nail is basically the worst option for ||colo||

[jade sluice]

get a single more ||charm notch so u can use steady body ong||

[wild vale]

i bought all of them from that store idk where else i would get one

[brittle socket]

Idk about worst but i get where you're coming from

[jade sluice]

im blind

[jade sluice]

im blind

[robust ridge]

you know what i mean

[jade sluice]

just use what wielder guy said

[robust ridge]

obviously like ||dream shield|| is worse

[jade sluice]

||sprintmaster and dashmaster:||

[robust ridge]

||dashmaster is actually quite good if you're really good||

[jade sluice]

||no eyes and i think markoth?||

also spoiler tag!!

[robust ridge]

(apparently)

[jade sluice]

really?

[ripe viper]

Okay ty

[robust ridge]

(i'm not good enough myself to really know)

but i can definitely see why

[jade sluice]

hmm

[robust ridge]

i mean like REALLY good players

I think

[jade sluice]

never saw a single person use it

[brittle socket]

Yeah me neither

[robust ridge]

it's not used for normal stuff I think

more like ||specific pantheon challenges and speedruns||

[jade sluice]

fair

[robust ridge]

i've only heard this from like 2 people though

but they were insanely good players

[stoic cedar]

||dashmaster is extremely helpful in longer speedrun categories such as 112% APB due to the decreased dash cooldown along with the down dash allowing for faster overworld traversal. as for godhome challenges, dashmaster is more niche but can still be used on certain challenges and modded bosses in which quick horizontal or downwards movement is helpful in order to dodge attacks.||

[robust ridge]

oh the context I heard about it in made it sound like more of just a ||godhome|| thing

but general traversal in speedruns makes sense

out of curiosity do you have any examples of ||down dash being useful in pantheons|| btw

[stoic cedar]

||off the top of my head i can only think of pogo only or floorless and/or walless challenges||

please go to #1057825333841240104 . this channel is for unmodded help

[fervent hollow]

sorry mb

[obsidian bramble]

wait a dang second what is thiss?

[stoic cedar]

what

[frosty ocean]

Help🙂

[rain ridge]

what part are you having troubling with

[rain ridge]

nah i just got to ||sly|| for the first time last night so im gonna practice against him in ||godhome|| then elts see

[ripe viper]

Thank you you were correct

[jade sluice]

[wild vale]

does it change anything if i dont kill him

[ripe viper]

also tags

Just don't

[wild vale]

ok

ill just walk away

[ripe viper]

Yes

[wild vale]

..

so you see

i was clicking back onto my game

and it used the nail

yes

[ripe viper]

😢

[wild vale]

😔

[stoic cedar]

||i mean both options give an achievement each so it doesnt really matter at the end of the day. u can just get the other achievement on a separate save file||

[ripe viper]

How do I spoiler tag?

Genuinely lost on how

[wild vale]

click the little eye icon

[ripe viper]

Okay

[sharp torrent]

you can do it through text by placing two vertical bars on each side, ||like this||

[ripe viper]

K ty

What boss is this?

[stoic cedar]

Please spoiler tag this

[ripe viper]

It's not ||markoth||

[rain ridge]

how are you sure

[ripe viper]

I fought him and the mark wasent filled

[rain ridge]

thats def ||markoth|| man

[ripe viper]

Bro

I'll fight him again

[stoic cedar]

Can confirm, that is ||markoth||

[rain ridge]

||https://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Pantheon_of_the_Knight||

[ripe viper]

It might not have saved

[rain ridge]

probably

[wild vale]

is this a bossfight

[rain ridge]

yes

[wild vale]

ok

[grim arch]

Could you spoiler tag the image pls

[wild vale]

i did?

[grim arch]

Nvm I'm sorry I'm an idiot

I instantly forgot it was spoiler tagged once I clicked it 🥀

[rough peak]

Fr

I do that too sometimes

[slender quiver]

Can you do ||path of pain|| multiple times or just once?

[polar flicker]

Once

|| after the cut scene tht area is locked ||

[sinful vortex]

wait a minute

that means you have to ||make a seperate save file for every path of pain attempt if you want to speedrun it||

[polar flicker]

||Maybe with mods u can bypass||

[desert condor]

do i get full health while fighting ||abs rad at the end of P5?||

[stoic cedar]

||yes you start at full health. Any lifeblood that u had at the end of pv will also be carried over to the absrad fight||

[desert condor]

does my ||soul|| carry over too?

cause if thats the case I won't waste it to heal like i did when I first unlocked it

[stoic cedar]

Yes

[ebon blaze]

How is it possible that I can ||radiant pure vessel|| but I can't even ||get NKG on attuned||

[wind bluff]

||NKG attack patterns.||
||Whenever you see him teleport, dash the opposite way and act from there.||
||Side-diagonal attack: dash away, hit, stand almost still.||
||Diagonal-side (cloud attack): dash away*, either double jump or pogo, dash again to guarantee not getting hit by cloud.||
||*with this one extra important, if you dash towards, your jump can accidentally land you in the middle of cloud. I lost NKG radiant attempts like this.||
||Bats: wait a bit, jump, dash.||
||Fire columns: ummm, just move very slowly, and after he fires 4th, that's free Abyss Shriek.||
||The remaining 2 attacks self explanatory and can only be trained by trying over and over again||

[ebon blaze]

Thanks I'll try

[wind bluff]

Alright, I reached ||Abs Rad|| in ||P5|| for the first time. Any tips?

Besides grinding in ||Hall of Gods|| to the point of perfection

[thick wing]

Not really

[thick wing]

Js do that

It's all about the practice

[light needle]

||is there a way to get up there or do i need another ability?||

[gloomy pendant]

||You need an ability||

[jagged wing]

||Cant you pogo off the items and wall jump||

[gloomy pendant]

||You can but that's a skip, I'm not sure you want to do that for a first playthrough||

[jagged wing]

||yeah its probably better to wait||

[wind bluff]

No I mean. It looks impossible to dodge.
||1. When ball spawns directly on the Knight's position (especially with spikes nearby||
||2.When you dash through the wall, only to land into arrows the millsecond after dash||

Like how am I supposed to counter

[rotund oriole]

GUYS

without taking any damage

and while locking my fps on 30