hk-help

[long bane]

That

No where near what i called it

[tame tree]

If anyone goes through Markota and learns it, I can give some advice

passes on the radiance

goodbuy

[long bane]

But why do i think ||markoth|| is pretty ez

[short kettle]

Try ||ascended Markoth and you'll see.||

[long bane]

||Like he is just hard when he get 2 sheild and they spin much faster||

Spoilers

Please?

[sinful vortex]

i spoilered it

[long bane]

Nope

[sinful vortex]

oh

[long bane]

Still not

[sinful vortex]

is it spoilered now

bleh

[long bane]

For ||pantheon ending|| do i need to do all ||5 pantheon will all locked?||

With*

[sinful vortex]

ok so uh

what do i do now

[long bane]

Like

||all bidings||

That what i meant

[sinful vortex]

79

[long bane]

Oh

So i did the first ||3 pantheon with all bindings|| for nothing?

[sinful vortex]

wait a minute

OH

i can continue my save

[long bane]

Yea u can

[sinful vortex]

||wait so i can get all the endings (if there are multiple endings) on the same save right||

[long bane]

Im lwk sad bc i was at the end of ||pantheon 4 all bidings|| and died to ||pure vessel||💔

[sinful vortex]

oh

||i let the guy in greenpath die does that affect anything||

phew

[long bane]

Huh which door-

I dont remember being a door-

[sinful vortex]

erm

[long bane]

Just

Smth spoiler alert

Do you have ||awoken dream nail?||

[sinful vortex]

no

[whole tangle]

henlo, how do i get this ||grub||?

[long bane]

Get it

[sinful vortex]

how do i get it

[long bane]

You need ||2400 essence||

[short kettle]

1800, not 2400

[sinful vortex]

i only have ||900 essence 💔||

oh

how do i get ||more essence||

[long bane]

Mb mb

[short kettle]

Find all ||dream warriors and dream bosses.||

[long bane]

Whats 2.4k-

[short kettle]

||Seer ascension||

[sinful vortex]

||ive beaten the warrior dream in howling cliffs, resting grounds and queens gardens and ive killed failed champion||

[sinful vortex]

alr

[long bane]

Oh right

[short kettle]

||Go to broken vessel, soul master and dung defender's arenas. Plus, the whole lotta dream warriors in different maps.||

[sinful vortex]

alr

[long bane]

||@sinful vortex The easiest dream boss is either broken vessel or the false knight||

[sinful vortex]

i mean ||i kinda cheesed failed champion||

||someone told me the dream nail tech||

[long bane]

Bc this bitch ass ||soul tyran|| is a bitch bitchass bitch lifeless friendless bitch

[sinful vortex]

lmao

[long bane]

Mb i just

Hate this boss

Yea with all my heart

Who even like ||soul tyran||

[sinful vortex]

how is lmao going to get me in trouble 💔

[long bane]

I think he was talking to me-

Mods are strict as hell

So being racist doesnt ban you but saying just a LITTLE insult make ur ban?

Yea off topic

Mb

Reason ban : "innactive"💔

Wait is it 1 or 2 n in inactive-

[sinful vortex]

🙏

[long bane]

1?

Why would 1 ban you

Ye but why would u get ban for it🔥

Mb im slow in the head

Ohh

..

Yea fair

[whole tangle]

henlo, can u recommend what ||charms should i use for first timeing the radiance?||

[long bane]

||quick slash soul catcher and marksman thing-||

WDYM THAT THE EASIEST THING TO PLAY

what else is he suppose to take-

Huh

What did u wrote

..

Isnt that the most used charm-

I mean

Hopefully you didnt told him to use ||mark of pride||

You cant even hit ||radiance|| without jumping w it

Its so useless

[languid radish]

zhdu\_n

Server Avatar

[idle thunder]

You mean ||mark of pride?||

[long bane]

||who the hell use mark of pride||

[idle thunder]

||dumb ppl||

[long bane]

Fair

The only thing i find ||mop|| useful is for ||no eyes||

Its too long to write

And im LAZY

Huh

[tranquil oriole]

[long bane]

I need silksong so bad omfg💔

[languid radish]

zhdu\_n

Server Avatar

[long bane]

Wait can u post link here

[tranquil oriole]

if it’s spoiler tagged yeah

i think so

[long bane]

Just dont rly wanna get banned bc i post a discord gif and it count as a link💔

Huh

What time for ya

[tranquil oriole]

yo same

[long bane]

Am?

Damn

[tranquil oriole]

valid

[long bane]

Fair

[tranquil oriole]

i just swung by to see if anyone was saying stupid things for me to read

imma head out too

[long bane]

I cant even stay up late if i do im tired as hell for work💔

[whole tangle]

henlo, am fighting ||the radiance, what should i replace Mark of pride with?
||

[long bane]

Good night man

[long bane]

||Quickslash||

And if he dont

Just get it

Its gonna be useful for the rest of his run

[short kettle]

You're the opposite of me lol

[long bane]

There is no way you like that THING

[short kettle]

||Soul Tyrant|| is a free win for me but ||Lost Kin|| gives me a lot of pain.

[long bane]

Lost kin is litteraly my goat

[short kettle]

I hate that thing.

[long bane]

Not even ||pv||

[long bane]

That thing is so cool

I mean

That fair

Some people told me he was the hardest boss in the game

[short kettle]

He's up there but different people struggle with different bosses.

[long bane]

I mean i kinda saw that when i beated his ass in ||radiant|| first try

Hold on i got a question prob stupid

Y'all know the room at the right where you find ||dream nail||

There is a ||dream boss idk that fights you is she even beatable||

[short kettle]

Its beatable, yes, but not a boss. No reason to do it other than being an asshole.

[long bane]

||ghost genocide 💔||

[short kettle]

||He's just protecting the spirits in the glade.||

[long bane]

Oh right u needed to sleep

Goodnight

[crimson jungle]

I’m really struggling with ||failed champion|| any tips?

[noble salmon]

any specific attacks you struggling with?

[crimson jungle]

Basically everything 😭

The double damage

[noble salmon]

ok

[crimson jungle]

I’ve only got him staggered once

[crimson jungle]

Oh and the fact you can’t gain soul

[noble salmon]

whats ur inventory looking like

[plush drum]

When he just slams the ground to make a shockwave just dash away

[crimson jungle]

You wanna know my charm build?

[crimson jungle]

Alr thanks

[noble salmon]

you can just hold jump...

[crimson jungle]

||Quick slash, shaman stone, steady body||

That’s my build rn

[plush drum]

True

But

U still need to react if its close to u

[noble salmon]

like can i see what ||spells, skills you got||

also spoiler tag that

[crimson jungle]

Sure 1 sec

[crimson jungle]

Mb

[plush drum]

How do i spoiler tag/

[acoustic sigil]

||like this||

[plush drum]

Oki...

[noble salmon]

put two of | before and after what you want to spoiler

[plush drum]

||hoi||

Got it

Thanks

[crimson jungle]

forgot to spoiler oop

[noble salmon]

ok

||with the shockwave attack, he only uses it when he jumps backwards||

||so if he backs up, you back up||

[crimson jungle]

Oh interesting Alr thanks that’s super helpful

[plush drum]

Sometimes not but he usually does that

Usually

[noble salmon]

almost always only when he ||jumps back||

[crimson jungle]

Also I’m trying to get ||awaken dream nail||

[plush drum]

Twise as much?

[noble salmon]

||he can shockwave up to four times||

[plush drum]

Like 2 ||shockwaves||

[crimson jungle]

how could I get ||dream essence|| easy-ish

i only have 303 so far 😭

[noble salmon]

||dream warriors||

[crimson jungle]

are there a lot? I cant seem to find many

[plush drum]

||dead people can be them||

[noble salmon]

not that many

[crimson jungle]

right

[noble salmon]

look for ||corpses||

[crimson jungle]

thats why i gotta fight this silly guy

[crimson jungle]

alr

you know which ones are easiest?

[plush drum]

||xeno or gorb||

[crimson jungle]

i fought ||gorb ||already

[plush drum]

Hm ..

||galien in deepnest||

[crimson jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/hayır-olamaz-lego-gif-7647030352230915501

||deepnest 🥀 ||

[plush drum]

:D

[noble salmon]

||no eyes at greenpath||

[crimson jungle]

what

[plush drum]

Ull need patience for this

[noble salmon]

Near ||massive moss charger||

[plush drum]

||stone stractuary/temple||

[crimson jungle]

best boss ever

[pallid comet]

[sinful vortex]

||yall i beat the game, what do i do now, rn i have 79% completion||

[noble salmon]

Get ||100%||

[sinful vortex]

alr

whats the easiest ||dream boss|| in yalls opinion

||rn ive only beaten failed champion||

[grand tapir]

You're including rematches?

Then I'd have to say ||Soul Tyrant||

Or ||No Eyes||

[sinful vortex]

rematches?

who’s ||no eyes|| again

[grand tapir]

Meaning you ||dnail a boss you've beaten before||

[grand tapir]

||The dream warrior in Greenpath||

[sinful vortex]

arent those just called ||dream bosses||

[sinful vortex]

oh that one

im talking about ||rematches not dream warriors||

[grand tapir]

I call em rematches to separate them from ||Dream Warriors||

[sinful vortex]

ah alr

[grand tapir]

Alr, then ||Soul Tyrant||

[sinful vortex]

||cause like i need 900 more essence for awoken dreamnail||

alr

[grand tapir]

Go after ||Lost Kin, Soul Tyrant, and then maybe a couple dream warriors||

[sinful vortex]

alr

[grand tapir]

Should give you enough ||essence||

[sinful vortex]

which one is ||lost kin|| again

[grand tapir]

||Broken Vessel||

[sinful vortex]

ah

[grand tapir]

||Basin||

[pallid comet]

i cant do this shit

[grand tapir]

||Pale Court||?

[pallid comet]

yes

[grand tapir]

Then I haven't a clue on how to help you

[inner hound]

you have ||dashmaster|| on right?

[pallid comet]

yep

its impossible to reach that part without

[inner hound]

then i'd say ||downdash, pogo, shriek, shriek, pogo, dash|| for the movement

and maybe a little ||double jump in between to wait for shade cloak to refresh||

[whole tangle]

henlo, i defeated ||radience, wat next?
||

[pallid comet]

||spellstall is so hard for me in this situation i have to remove my finger from s to w to shreik and sometimes i even forget what button iam holding||

huge skill issue

[pallid comet]

||pantheons||

[ebon copper]

ah, this is kinda hard

[whole tangle]

how hard is this from the scale of 1-10?

[grand tapir]

1 - 3
2 - 4
3 - 7
4 - 9
5 - 15

[pallid comet]

||1 and 2 are easy
the rest is hell
even tho 4 is way easier than 3 for me||

[inner hound]

then maybe ||downdash, pogo, shadesoul, wings, shriek, pogo, dash|| to still stall for long enough

[pallid comet]

will try thx

[whole tangle]

thanks

[whole tangle]

thanks

[grand tapir]

Np

[pallid comet]

i think i need a bigger nail

but the part after this needs a smaller one

[ebon copper]

@pallid comet here is my clear maybe you can catch tech you arent using

[pallid comet]

[pallid comet]

iam in the area before that

but thx i will need this very much

oh iam close

lets go

my biggest issue is i cant time it

it has to be pixel perfect

[ebon copper]

i mean,not really tbh, its very precuse tho

[whole tangle]

um, what about|| trial of fools (the 3rd one)|| ?

[pallid comet]

20

[grand tapir]

18

[pseudo mason]

||how to kill god tamer||

i hate them

[pallid comet]

show me you inv

[inner hound]

ok so the stalls i was talking about were not necessary, as you can ||pogo|| without getting hit

[grand tapir]

||focus on beast||

[pallid comet]

pogo the beast

[ebon copper]

if you have max gear ||colo3 should be easier than p5|| 100%

[pallid comet]

yea
but the timing is asssss for me

[whole tangle]

i have everything

[grand tapir]

Def

[pseudo mason]

oke\

||how much bosses there is in p3?||

[grand tapir]

10

Same as all

Except 5

[pallid comet]

||oh yea i forgot you need voidheart for radiance||

[inner hound]

so maybe just stall once to be aware of where your knight is exactly so that the timing after is easier

[ebon copper]

||godtamer|| is the 4th

so about halfaway

[pseudo mason]

||i dont want to check bosses but i think i need to if i want to do it today||

[pseudo mason]

i hate this boss

[pallid comet]

||i hate zote and sly||

[grand tapir]

Same

[pallid comet]

and theyre in the same ||PANTHEON||

[pseudo mason]

erm wtf are those bosses

||grimm have same amount of hp ?||

or every bosses have less?

or its only feels like this

[pallid comet]

||they have more

[pseudo mason]

bcs i ahe evrything

[noble salmon]

||grimm hp outside of godhome depends on ur nail lv||

[ebon copper]

the bosses are for the mostpart somewhat increasing in difficulty ||with the last boss of each pantheon being a unique boss||, in short if you are struggling with ||godtamer||, doing ||p3|| today may prove quite difficult

[pseudo mason]

||im in godhome||

[noble salmon]

||as well as several others||

[pseudo mason]

||grimm|| is easyfor me

||but just god tamer||

[noble salmon]

Cause thats what he is

[sinful vortex]

||how does godhome work, i try to interact with the first thing but it shows me some boss icons, do i have to beat those first before i can interact with it? Also what does the godtuner do?||

[noble salmon]

What attack you struggle with

[noble salmon]

Yes

[pseudo mason]

both

i just need to pogo him

[sinful vortex]

ah alright

[noble salmon]

||godtuner is useless||

[ebon copper]

||Grimm|| is very methodical, and most definitely not close to the difficulty of the last boss of ||p3||

[sinful vortex]

what does ||the godtuner|| do btw

[pseudo mason]

i didint know it before

[sinful vortex]

oh

[grand tapir]

Let's you get into ||godhome||

[noble salmon]

He is

[ebon copper]

it lights up when youdothe ||pantheons||

[noble salmon]

||second||

[pseudo mason]

oh ok

it was still ez

so

no worries

[sinful vortex]

||do we ever know what happens to tiso i saw him at the colosseum the last time i met him||

[ebon copper]

yes

[sinful vortex]

also spoiler tags

[noble salmon]

||greenpath hornet is protector, kingdom edge hornet is sentinal||

[ebon copper]

super late game tho

[grand tapir]

Do ||mawlek on ascended||

[pseudo mason]

sr

[sinful vortex]

what happens to him

[grand tapir]

.

[pseudo mason]

||its same one like in basement||

[ebon copper]

get to endgame ind figure it out for yourself

[pseudo mason]

?

[grand tapir]

Yes

[pseudo mason]

he was dumb

so random atacks

[grand tapir]

Agreed

[pseudo mason]

||i am scared of sly but i wont check his atacks||

bcs idk

[sinful vortex]

alr

[grand tapir]

Ironically, ||narts are great for the nail sage||

[pseudo mason]

i hate using|| narts||

[prisma harness]

||i cant beat trial of fools||

[grand tapir]

I'd recommend getting the rest of the ||notches||

It helped me significantly

And also a couple more ||charms||

[prisma harness]

||maybe wings if i can get them rn||

[grand tapir]

Def

[sinful vortex]

||upgrade your nail and spells, and get some more charm notches too||

[prisma harness]

||this game never holds your hand tbh you have to look everything from the internet||

[sinful vortex]

||also i’d reccomend you seek out the other two nailmasters for their nail arts||

||once you’ve done that, then meet someone in dirtmouth, wont say who though||

||nail arts are VERY useful for colosseum||

[sinful vortex]

i mean its a metroidvania you gotta explore and figure stuff out by yourself too

[pallid comet]

1 more to go

[prisma harness]

||idk im quite stuck. i go to the same biomes over and over the shop doesnt sell mask shards anymore and the charms lady wont sell charm notchs to me||

[pseudo mason]

what should i put for last slot

[sinful vortex]

||try going to places you havent been to on the map. Salubra sells 4 charm notches (with each requiring you to have a certain number of charms to be able to buy them) and sly also sells a max of 4 masks too||

[glossy raptor]

||if i didnt save zote, p5 wouldve been a cake walk||

[whole tangle]

should i start new ||save file to fight him?||

[pallid comet]

nope

not worth it

doit later

for the achive

[plush drum]

Godseeker?

[pallid comet]

||zote||

[plush drum]

It will be unlocked

[pallid comet]

||he left him to die||

[glossy raptor]

can anyone reccomend me a detailed guide for his attacks

[plush drum]

||New file right||

[pallid comet]

practice him in ||hog and kill him in the base game is your best opions||

[glossy raptor]

i am but im losing too much health

very rng

[pallid comet]

whats after ||zote in p5||

[glossy raptor]

sometimes i lose 1hp sometimes i lose 6

[glossy raptor]

||failed champion||

easy

free soul for the next fight, ||nkg||

[pallid comet]

then who cares
lose hp cause thats free hp next boss

dw about losing too much hp against ||zote|| cause next boss is freee

[glossy raptor]

yeah fair enough but i can get past him

because im already on low hp

[pallid comet]

||markoth is before him right||

[glossy raptor]

from ||markoth||

yh

[pallid comet]

yea thats the tricky part you have to lose lil health against that dude

spamming|| spells is your best option||

[whole tangle]

henlo, do u know wen ||silksong?

will i be able to play on MacOS?||

[pallid comet]

silksong at the end of this year i think

and it will be available for mac yes
i think

[glossy raptor]

either way he leaves me on 4/5hp

[pallid comet]

yikes

yea i lost to ||gpz too in p5 last time cause of markoth||

insane chain reaction

even tho i killed ||gpz 8 times in the base game||

[glossy raptor]

its only those 2

[pallid comet]

and i have him ||radiant||

||FUCK I REACHED THE END OF ABYSS TEMPAL AND STILL GOT HIT||

iam losing my marbles

[glossy raptor]

||nkg, pv|| all easy

can do them without practice now

[pallid comet]

true

[glossy raptor]

but those 2 in a combo kills all of my runs

[pallid comet]

i struggle with ||sly markoth and zote||

[glossy raptor]

i think ive nailed ||slys|| patterns good enough to do him ||radiant|| when i want

[pallid comet]

i can if i practice him but too lazy

once i get the rythm in he is easy to deal with

i keep getting suprised by the range

[glossy raptor]

but damn because of ||markoth and zote|| i cant finish ||p5 easily||

might go for the 5 hour speedrun achievement instead

[glossy raptor]

yeah fair enough

[pallid comet]

can you kill||abs rad?||

[glossy raptor]

never gotten to her

but i just want to REACH

[pallid comet]

then yea the run still has some time

[glossy raptor]

even if i unlock her ill be happy

because my charms are more ||pv oriented|| so when i reach her ill probably get smoked either way

gonna have to adapt for both

[crimson jungle]

i did it finally

[sinful vortex]

if i equip ||long nail and mark of pride does my nail get a 40% increase in range or a 61% increase in range||

||like do they add onto each other or do they multiply with each other||

[simple island]

I don’t think this matters

But I think it is additive
There is the pretty picture somewhere

[simple island]

Yeah

This isn’t all that good for just how ||many notches|| it takes
But you can do what you want

[sinful vortex]

i mean theres a 20% difference between additive and multiplicative

[pallid comet]

iam equiping both rn inpale court parkour shit

[sinful vortex]

yeah ik lol was just wondering

[simple island]

No lol

1.15*1.25 is like 1.44

[sinful vortex]

shit i multiplied it wrong

[pseudo mason]

||wtf is this zote||

i figthed diffrent one

not this

[inner hound]

is that about the ||zotelings that explode||?

[sinful vortex]

||does cornifer ever wake up or is he that eepy that he just continues sleeping in their house||

[inner hound]

he is that eepy

[pseudo mason]

idk

||in p3||

i never saw those atacks before

and i fought him

[inner hound]

what new attacks did you encounter?

[pseudo mason]

jumping on my head

over and over

then exploading

something

started appearing

and i atacked it

like idiot

and died

[glossy raptor]

wow pretty

[sinful vortex]

🥀

[inner hound]

for them, take your distances, and to get rid of all of them quickly you can ||shade soul|| them from a distance

[pseudo mason]

|| its worth to use mop and longnail together?||

[pseudo mason]

i will try

||ima go learn him in hall of gods ||

[ebon copper]

||longnail|| in general is considered quite bad

[pseudo mason]

im dumb

so what bulid for nail

shouldi i use'

[light rapids]

Wait I'm confused I haven't fought ||god tamer|| yet but ||god tamers|| icon in the ||pantheons|| is lit up

[inner hound]

for nail i go with ||strenght, quickslash, steady body and nailmaster's glory||

[ebon copper]

best build in the game is ||shaman stone, quick slash, strenght, soul twister||

[light rapids]

I'd describe ||longnail|| and ||mark of pride|| as a crutch, something that can make the game a lot easier but it's making you worse at the game without it

[pseudo mason]

its only ||8 notches||

[inner hound]

it is not needed to defeat him for him to be unlocked it's normal

[pseudo mason]

i will try this hybrid one

[light rapids]

Ah okay

[inner hound]

I add ||shaman stone, but i didn't mention it as it is not nail-related||

[light rapids]

||divine|| is a scammer

[ebon copper]

if you really dont want anything other than ||nail, than you can go for mark of pride, and either soul catcher, or 2 from grubsong, nmg, steady body||

[pseudo mason]

oh

||and what is salburas blessing doing?||

i only see her on ||bench||

[inner hound]

it gives you soul when ||sitting on a bench||

[pseudo mason]

ty

[wanton mason]

guys i died to the bosses in ||the path of pain|| after i spent 3 hours to do it

any tips 😩

[inner hound]

spam ||spells|| on them and they will die quickly

[wanton mason]

• what's the best charm build to use (i have max charm notches and 4 of them are for|| hiveblood||)

[wanton mason]

oh ok ty

[light rapids]

Wait they count as bosses?

[wanton mason]

idk their names

[inner hound]

i'd say ||hiveblood mark of pride quickslash grubsong||

[light rapids]

I just call em Pale Knights

The name is probably in ||hunters journal||

[inner hound]

they're called ||kingsmoulds||

[wanton mason]

i dont check ||the journal|| lol

[wanton mason]

alr ty

imma spent 3 more hors to do it again now

hope that i got better and do it faster

[pseudo mason]

||can i do full bestiary without doing pantheons?||

[glossy raptor]

bestiary lmao

[glossy raptor]

i think so yeah

[pseudo mason]

joural bestiary

[glossy raptor]

ok apparently not

[pseudo mason]

same thing

[glossy raptor]

playing too much terraria

[pseudo mason]

500 hours

[glossy raptor]

valid

[inner hound]

maybe you can get the ||achievement|| even though i'm pretty sure you can't, but there are some entries that are ||pantheon-related||

[ebon copper]

last 2 entries in the ||journal require doing all the bindings individually, and doing every boss hitless in the hall of gods||

[pseudo mason]

i hate this place so much

[glossy raptor]

but that doesnt count towards the achievement

[pseudo mason]

i have a huge skill issue

[ebon copper]

you can

[delicate falcon]

there are ||"entires" that are pantheon-exclusive but they don't count for anything over the normal journal (rather than just the text/lore?) - you can get the achievement though.||

[inner hound]

not necessarly hitless, the entry just changes

[pseudo mason]

good

[glossy raptor]

for example even ||path of pain|| has an entry but doesnt count towards to the achievement

[ebon copper]

i mean, id count each lvl of ||void idol|| as a different entry

[glossy raptor]

does it not just add on to itself

[ebon copper]

ye, it changes the entry

but there is a separate trigger for each of them, so its fair to call them different

[glossy raptor]

btw anyone have any detailed ||gpz guides||

[delicate falcon]

fyi some ||dlc-added entries when acquired add one to completed but also add one to total (so the amount remaining of the other ones would still be the same)||

[ebon copper]

here is Dyratis guide: #hk-help message

[inner hound]

yes, you're right

[glossy raptor]

love

[tribal dove]

im trying to learn to speedrun any tips on his skip?

[sinful vortex]

||need help with soul tyrant, here are my current charms||

[tribal dove]

||i would probably equip like MoP instead of quick focus because for healing when he does the attack where he makes orbs spin around him and go across te arena u can stand in the middle an heal plus MoP makes him easier to hit||

[sudden prairie]

||GPZ 4TH TRY JUST TANKED HIM||

[tribal dove]

niiiice

[sinful vortex]

alr

[stuck heron]

||Queens Garden||

[jade steeple]

Thanks

[stuck heron]

Spoiler tag your message

[jade steeple]

My message?

What do you mean?

[stuck heron]

.

[jade steeple]

Oh you meant my pfp

[stuck heron]

Spoiler tag ||collector|| and ||key||

[jade steeple]

[sharp torrent]

it is required to spoiler tag messages in this channel

[pseudo mason]

only

spoilers

[sharp torrent]

well yeah

[pseudo mason]

i hate ||zote||

i am this bad

or is he

that random

[sharp torrent]

he's a difficult boss no doubt

[pseudo mason]

why is he in ||p3||

i cant get past him

i even cant kill him in|| hall of gods||

[tribal dove]

spoiler tag it

[pseudo mason]

hp bars are mod?

[sharp torrent]

yes

[long bane]

Isnt ||zote strat like pogo on him?||

The whole fight

[gusty helm]

What's a ||zote||?

[long bane]

||yk the small knight you (prob) released from a big fly||?

In ||forgotten crossroad|| i think

This guy

[gusty helm]

The ||Helpless Stranger||?

[long bane]

Yea this one

[gusty helm]

I saw him ||hanging up in the air getting eaten and I just left him there 💀||

[long bane]

Glad you did

Lmao

||it unlock you an achevement too||

||if you let him||

[mellow mango]

yo guys

[long bane]

Hey

[mellow mango]

im having trouble with ||the radiance||

i couldnt beat it so i just started playing deltarune

[long bane]

Can you tell me or show what charm u use

[mellow mango]

i wanna beat ||the radiance but the 2 mask damage gets me every time||

uh its a very basic build

||strength, quickslash, pride mark, uhh grubsong and nailmasters glory||

[long bane]

For ||radiance remove nailmasters since u got quickslash and PLEASE REMOVE MARK OF PRIDE ITS USELESS||

Do you have ||all upgrated spell?||

[tribal dove]

one to go

[wanton mason]

omgg i finally beated ||path of pain||

[tribal dove]

niiiice

[long bane]

Gj

[wanton mason]

tyyy

[long bane]

How long did u took

[wanton mason]

uhh

[tribal dove]

any idea what this could be?

[long bane]

What does it says-

[tribal dove]

1 hidden achievemnt left

[wanton mason]

yesterday it took me 5 hours and died to the last ||2 pale knights||

so i rage quitted

[tribal dove]

Information about this achievemnt will be revealed when it is unlocked

[wanton mason]

but today i finished it all in 1 hour

[long bane]

Please tell me your not using ||mark of pride||

[tribal dove]

nice gj

[long bane]

Prob ||p5||

[tribal dove]

nah

already done that

[wanton mason]

i used it every one told me to use it also yotubers said that

it helped alot tho

[mellow mango]

oh okayt what should i replace it with

[wanton mason]

question what does ||p5 ||refer to?

[tribal dove]

later

not relevant for u now

[wanton mason]

endgame stuff?

[mellow mango]

||its part of the godhome update||

[tribal dove]

yeah

like the end

[mellow mango]

didnt he say he beat ||PoP|| im pretty sure that like endgame

[long bane]

||pantheon 5||

[wanton mason]

||wait he said godhome dlc so it doesnt exist in normal game||?

[mellow mango]

||p5 is pantheon 5 in the godhome update||

[tribal dove]

dlc is an update

[wanton mason]

yea it is

[tribal dove]

its called dlc for some reason but its just an update

[tribal dove]

not really

[mellow mango]

free dlcs are basically just an update

[tribal dove]

i mean its close

[gusty helm]

||Pantheon 5|| the easiest tournament in HK

[long bane]

||prob marksman or the child if you beated nkg||

[zinc verge]

bro really told him to use ||grimmchild||

[long bane]

||grimmchild is crazy good for radiance wdym||

[tribal dove]

🤣

[mellow mango]

whats ||marksman also i didnt beat nkg yet||

isnt it like

[wanton mason]

||i've done all the dreamers and got ll masks and all charms missing only 3 and still didnt find the p5 so is it more later?||?

[long bane]

Show ur charms

[mellow mango]

should i tell you where to activate dlc

[long bane]

||its in a secret area in royal waterfall||

Or smth like that

[wanton mason]

wai so need to activate it first?

[tribal dove]

no

its an unnecesary spoiler

[mellow mango]

no like you have to go to a specific place and interact

[wanton mason]

ooo

[mellow mango]

alr i gtg now gl finding it

[wanton mason]

but i explored all the hllownest

[tribal dove]

even the breakable walls?

[wanton mason]

yea but maybe i missed one of them

[long bane]

||Did u explore royal waterfall?||

[tribal dove]

send map

[wanton mason]

i did

[wanton mason]

alr 1min

[tribal dove]

ok

[long bane]

Did you explore EVERYTHING tho

[long bane]

Also in hk mods does ||benchwarps|| considered cheating?

[neat karma]

Do you consider it cheating

[wanton mason]

look at the map

[long bane]

I mean not rly

[neat karma]

Then its not

[long bane]

Fair

[neat karma]

Hk is an offline singleplayer game idk why it would matter if someone else considers something cheating

You paid for your game you get to enjoy it however you want

[tribal dove]

yeah its mostly breakable walls ur missing

[long bane]

I what

[tribal dove]

im enjoying it oh yeah so good im enjoying it

[gusty helm]

I might do that ||invincibility|| glitch for ||pantheons||

[zinc verge]

||grimmchild|| is never good anywhere
its one of the worst charms in the game
what the fuck are you on?
i'd rather use like ||spell twister|| lmao

[tribal dove]

glitching

[long bane]

Does that just ruin the whole point of doing the ||pantheon||

[tribal dove]

🤣

[tribal dove]

id rather use ||compass||

[zinc verge]

of course
the second best charm in the game

[long bane]

||compass is way too op tho||

[tribal dove]

yeah

[valid phoenix]

only really for combat, for any other purpose kinda useless

[long bane]

What you on about its obviously ||kingsoul||

[tribal dove]

no

[zinc verge]

your build should be
||strength, shaman, quickslash and twister||

[wanton mason]

||
||

[pseudo mason]

||i hate gpz||

this is impossible to kill

[valid phoenix]

You get it

[wanton mason]

wth how did i send an invis message???

[tribal dove]

where ar u fighting him

[zinc verge]

and bro really dissed
||mark of pride|| like that
it may not be as good as the big three but its still peak

[pseudo mason]

||p3||

[heavy ivy]

||Like this||

Hightlight it and do spoiler

[zinc verge]

just practice him in ||hall of gods||

[pseudo mason]

i will need to

[heavy ivy]

He’s gets very easy when you learn him

[pseudo mason]

im starting to recognize

[gusty helm]

||

||

[pseudo mason]

pattern

but 1 mistake and i go out of rythm

and die

[heavy ivy]

Facts

[zinc verge]

good
remember that ||ddark|| is your best friend for ||gpz||

[gusty helm]

Here's the instructions on ||invincibility|| glitch

[pseudo mason]

what

[zinc verge]

you can sometimes get overwhelmed by his attacks
when he does ||volatile zotes|| and then an attack at the same time and when you are in a bad spot
so its really good to use ||ddark|| in such situations for iframes

[pseudo mason]

oh u mean this charm

[zinc verge]

nah its a ||spell||

||descending dark||

[neat karma]

Tags please

Ty

[heavy ivy]

Anyone need help?

[pseudo mason]

i didint use it like this before

this should help

[zinc verge]

how do I beat ||elderbug||

[heavy ivy]

Lock in and bum him

[shrewd canyon]

i died in the worst dark room with 3k geo

[tribal dove]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

I DID IT

[shrewd canyon]

dang thats cool

[tribal dove]

only took 137 hours in the span of less than a month

[zinc verge]

you know
the best use case for ||descending dark|| is for the iframes
it has amazing damage
but its much better to use for iframes
this makes it the most overpowered ||spell|| to use as you can easily get out of tough situations with this

[heavy ivy]

Just use nuke

[pseudo mason]

how longdoes iframes

stay

[zinc verge]

0.4 seconds
this may seem less but its just enough

more than enough

[pseudo mason]

||p4 looks easier than p3||

||depends on how no eyes arena will look like||

[tribal dove]

no it isnt

trust me

[shrewd canyon]

whats ||p3 and p4||

[tribal dove]

late game content

[long bane]

||no eyes and pure vessel make p4 harder||

[tribal dove]

dont worry about it

[pseudo mason]

||WTF IS P5||

[tribal dove]

||no eyes||?

[long bane]

You'll see once you finish the game once

[pseudo mason]

||50 bosses in a row?||

[tribal dove]

ye

[long bane]

||pantheon 5||

[tribal dove]

pretty easy

only took me like 10 days

[pseudo mason]

ik but

how i will kill

||50 bosses||

[long bane]

||skill||

[tribal dove]

just dont die

thats what i did

[long bane]

Just kill all of them

[pseudo mason]

there is a lot of|| benches||

so maybe not that bad

[tribal dove]

yeah

but u dont need them

[pseudo mason]

||i am scared of nosk i didint even saw him yet||

||stuck on zote||

[long bane]

This thing is a bitch

Its not rly hard

[pseudo mason]

i need to lock in

and do atleast ||p3 ||today

[tribal dove]

u git this

[long bane]

Git gud

[rapid wren]

yo! is there a way to make the speedrun interface for livesplit trasnparent ingame?

[pallid ice]

|| just grabbed vs from shaman and the knight refuses to get up, the menu wont even open up im on 1.2.2.1 ||

[tribal dove]

alt + f4

[pallid ice]

right thanks

thats the souldtion to evreything

[tribal dove]

yea

[shut sparrow]

please use spoiler tags

[pallid ice]

oop my bad sry

[shut sparrow]

ask in #speedrunning

[dense barn]

let him sleep

[whole tangle]

||trial of fool 3 is so hard||

[stiff palm]

How do I put spoiler tags on something?

[dense barn]

|| use this on both sides of your text

[plush drum]

Put || between smth

[stiff palm]

Thx

[plush drum]

2 of them

[stiff palm]

||does this work||

[dense barn]

yes

[stiff palm]

Nice it works

Ok can anyone help me find ||godhome|| please?

[forest nest]

|| look in the sewers ||

[stiff palm]

Thanks

[forest nest]

Np

[pallid comet]

far left in ||waterways||

[half hornet]

guys i have ||1600 dream nail essence rn i have beat all dreamers and warrior dreams, where do i get the the rest 200|| then where do i ||awk it||

[wanton mason]

||dod you beat the kin boss in his dream and soul master in his dream?||

[half hornet]

yes

not ||soul master dream tho||

idk how to do that

[simple island]

you can ||rebeat old bosses for a lot of essence
you probably did the refight of broken vessel
you can also do other bosses like soul master or the very first boss of the game||

[wanton mason]

do it

[half hornet]

how do i get there

do i ||nail the body||?

[simple island]

you go to where the boss was

[wanton mason]

yea then use|| dream nail|| on him

[half hornet]

k

ill do that

how much does he give

[wanton mason]

a bunch

[short kettle]

300

[wanton mason]

200 or more

[half hornet]

aight

300 is more than enough

then where do i ||awk it||

[wanton mason]

guys what are the rewards of|| godhome||

[wanton mason]

the same guy

[neat karma]

Buncha nothing

[half hornet]

idrk where that is 😭

[half hornet]

k

[wanton mason]

||resting grounds||

[radiant raft]

Some achievements ||and a few percents.||

[wanton mason]

so what's the point of it then

[half hornet]

then u|| nail that one body? to get to the pale king area?||

[neat karma]

Percentage and achievements

[half hornet]

i have 90% rn

[neat karma]

Thats not-

[wanton mason]

||to awaken dream nail just talk to the guy in resting grounds in the top left||

[half hornet]

oh yea ik that guy

[wanton mason]

not even worth the pain lol

[half hornet]

im talking abt ||godhome||

[wanton mason]

he will ||awaken ||it

[radiant raft]

Oh trust me it’s worth it just to feel the accomplishment of it all.

[wanton mason]

||godhome is in water ways||

[half hornet]

oh?

ill see abt it later

[wanton mason]

yea thats the only reason that will make me do it

[half hornet]

oh that will make me very happy to get 112%

ohhhhhh

yesss

[wanton mason]

||if you mean paleking place you need awoken dream nail and use it on the body in the abyss||

[radiant raft]

Plus you get to beat on those who wronged you.

[half hornet]

ye ik abt that

[wanton mason]

yea ill do it for that too

[half hornet]

tru that

[wanton mason]

but trust you need to be very good

[half hornet]

oh

welll

if theres any pogoing invloved

then itll be easy

[wanton mason]

||path of pain|| is just...

i just finished it today

[half hornet]

since ||i got trapped in ancient basin without monarch wings and had to pogo all the way to beat broken vessel||

[wanton mason]

||i died to the pale knights at the end of path of pain which made me restart from the beginning||

[wanton mason]

you could've just leave and rejoin lol

[neat karma]

You cant get trapped there btw

[half hornet]

no i benched there

[half hornet]

...

huh

[wanton mason]

||yea he must've got the pale thing in kingdoms edge wich also need monarch wings||

[half hornet]

UR TELLING ME I WASTED 4 HRS

[neat karma]

Yes

[half hornet]

bru

[wanton mason]

oooh i knew the place you mean

[neat karma]

No? What are you talking about

[wanton mason]

bro you must've ||crystal dash||

[neat karma]

They said they didnt have it

[wanton mason]

i thought he means th place where you get|| shade cloak||

[neat karma]

No they said ||ancient basin||

[wanton mason]

it's easy to get

[neat karma]

You are not reading i fear

[wanton mason]

yea i understood exactly the place he means

[half hornet]

i didnt have taht

thats hwy

[wanton mason]

i'm tweaking lol

[lone badger]

what's the issue here?

[wanton mason]

get it asap

[neat karma]

||they said they got stuck in ancient basin and had to pogo their way to broken vessel||

[covert stag]

||I have already entered, I have already been caught by the guys and I have already left. I thought she would spawn the moment I left, what do I do?||

[wanton mason]

nothing im just being stupid as hell lol

[neat karma]

||because they didnt have crystal heart back then||

[half hornet]

i have it now

i alr beat everthing

almost

[neat karma]

||they just didnt realize you can still exit through the same way they initially came in||

[lone badger]

I mean, I don't think you can intentionally get stuck unless you do a sort of skip to get to him

[wanton mason]

i believe there is place where you can get in

[neat karma]

I think youre looking for the word unintentionally

[lone badger]

potato potatoe

[neat karma]

No bestie theyre opposites

[lone badger]

[covert stag]

||But I already went in, but I also went out. Wasn't that it?||

[neat karma]

no

[wanton mason]

not by getting trapped, another way to get in

[neat karma]

What youre looking for is ||in the area after you get trapped||

[wanton mason]

just search it up

[neat karma]

Theyre asking here for a reason

[wanton mason]

||yea he wants to get the dreamer ig||

[neat karma]

How would you feel if you asked someone somethind and they just told you look it up

[gaunt trench]

how do I unlock || radiance fight in hall of gods do I already beaten it in base game do I also need to defeat it in pantheon of hallownest?||

[neat karma]

you can get back to this place ||by climbing the right wall||

[wanton mason]

he didnt know there was another way to get in

[neat karma]

yes

[neat karma]

so??

[wanton mason]

i told him there is

[neat karma]

and then look it up instead of actually helping

not to mention that looking stuff up usually means a lot of spoilers

[wanton mason]

you cant describe the exact place he needs to go in

[neat karma]

yes you can, and if you cant then saying look it up is still rude

[wanton mason]

unless using spoilers and show him a map

[pseudo mason]

||I KILLED ZOTE BUT THEN DIED BCS I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO KILL THIS MEDUSA THING||

[neat karma]

||wait as usual and when it summons enemies wait until you have a clear way, then hit the enemy to the direction of uumuu||

[wintry falcon]

u doing ||p3||

[pseudo mason]

how do i hit her

[pseudo mason]

yes

[neat karma]

I literally just explained it

[pseudo mason]

wtf

i just

realized

it seems hard

to do

[covert stag]

i found

more one guys

[wanton mason]

congrats

[neat karma]

Its pretty easy once you get the hsng of it, just make sure ||youre not hitting it into a wall or platform||

[ebon copper]

its more so annoying than hard

youll get it down in no time

[gaunt trench]

well that kinda sucks I was hoping there was another way to prepare for fighting it in ||pantheon|| is there any way to prepare for fighting ||radiance|| other than fighting it in main game?

[pseudo mason]

||i forgot this guy wont be here so i should learn her before||

[neat karma]

||once you get to her shes unlocked in hog no need to beat it but no other than that no||

[gaunt trench]

getting that far is hard enough I was hoping that there is a way to prepare for the fight at end of || pantheon of hallownest|| but I guess I can only practice by fighting normal version at ||hollow knight fight||

[wintry falcon]

do you got a charm suggestion for ||p4||

[ebon copper]

imo you shouldnt practice the ||normal version in hk|| fight, as it wont help a lot

just get there, unlock her, and practice in ||hog||

[gaunt trench]

so I just have to accept the fact that I will almost certainly fail at that final fight?

[ebon copper]

yes

but it will be a big step forwards anyway

if you get there once, the 2nd time will be much more managable

[gaunt trench]

||sharp shadow and sprintmaster|| are pretty good for second half of ||pantheon||

[ebon copper]

i do not want to sound rude, but please dont use ||sharp shadow||

its a new player trap

waste of ||2 notches||

[gaunt trench]

it's very powerful for || failed champion and pure vessel|| fights

[ebon copper]

not really, both fights are faster without

and its justa abad habit to pick up in general

[wintry falcon]

wb first half

[ebon copper]

if you want to use good charms, use ||quick slash, strenght, shaman stone, and soul twister||

[gaunt trench]

I suggest the ones that you would normally use and if there is any boss you struggle with take a charm that counters that boss pretty well

[gaunt trench]

||sharp shadow makes shadow dash longer which is good for bigger bosses like false champion and pure vessel and it allows you to dash through them which is pretty useful in their fights since they are one of harder ones in pantheon||

[pallid comet]

mid

[wintry falcon]

should i use || shaman, mark of pride , sharp shadow and strength ||

[hollow bramble]

the thing is, better players would just run it down with some optimized build, but since theyre asking for help with charms, its likely that they don't have the experience to use the optimized build to the full potential so its probably better for them to use charms they are famaliar with

[pallid comet]

i have something better

[gaunt trench]

||sharp shadow is pretty useless before first phase ||

[pallid comet]

glass canon starter pack

[ebon copper]

||its the opposite of good, longer dash = more downtime while you could be using a spell, or hitting with your nail, simply hitting with your nail with quickslash equipped is more dps than sharp shadow, besides the inconsistent dash distance is really bad to get used to as you try to go into the more endgame terriories of the game, just a bad habit to pick up in general, dadhing thru bosses is while intended not even close to being optimal.
overall, its basically something you wanna get rid of asap, kinda like mop, but a bit worse||

[ebon copper]

not quite optimal, take off|| steady body and nmg, and put on shaman||

[pallid comet]

you should open the image

[ebon copper]

||overcharming with a 2 cost charm while using 3 cost charms|| is not the best

ahh, nvm

lmao

[pallid comet]

xdddddddddddd

[ebon copper]

oki

[pallid comet]

deals 80 per hit

[ebon copper]

hell ye

[pallid comet]

since i have|| 59 radiant bosses i use this build to bully the other 4||

||sly didnt have a good day till i made this||

[ebon copper]

it is never a good idea to use ||sharp shadow||, its a bad habit

[ebon copper]

do them all charmless

.

[wintry falcon]

what does ||soul twister|| do

[pallid comet]

no thank you

[shut sparrow]

please use tags

[ebon copper]

||you can use 4 spells instead of 3 for a full soul meter||

so takes ||spell cost from 33, to 25||

[pallid comet]

more ammo

[wintry falcon]

ohh

[ebon copper]

did you do the ||chapions call|| yet?

[pallid comet]

oh hell nah

[ebon copper]

i remember grinding it for a bit, but i put it aside since it was quite tough

[gaunt trench]

||I bring sharp shadow mostly because of pure vessel fight since because of his attack combos where he does 4 slashes attack twice so basically when I jump over his attack he repeats his move and slashes me just as I land and have no time to dash away or jump again while it may sound like something that usually never happens that attack combo comes up a lot of time sometimes even twice during his fight with sharp shadow you can dash through pure vessel and be prepared for his next attack||

[pallid comet]

i need to call off first from the parkour shit

[ebon copper]

that attack, you jump over him and ||pogo||

[pallid comet]

this mod seems small

5 bosses thats it?

[gaunt trench]

||when I do that he often does that attack again and hurts right when I land||

[short kettle]

Its the biggest content expansion mod, especially one of that quality.

There are 7 boss fights, each with voice, backgrounds, quality design. And a whole new platforming hell.

It's not really small at all.

[pallid comet]

yea well there is no other mod that adds much stuff so this one is probably the biggestt
i really like the charms design

[pallid comet]

guess iam missing some

[short kettle]

||The 4 you fought + Isma/WD Double Fight + Tiso + another fight at end of Champion Call, probably the hardest fight in game.||

[ebon copper]

7 actually

ahh, me slow

[ebon copper]

idk, just do what i do ig

i do have a written, guide, lemme link that too

#hk-help message

here

[shut sparrow]

||pogo less and land earlier||

[pallid comet]

i always find it best to ||ddark whenever i see the spikes||

[gaunt trench]

||how do I even land earlier even when I pogo of pure vessel once he usually uses another attack right when I land which gives me almost none time to react||

[ebon copper]

i dont really use ||spells in pv ||fight cause it feels better not to

[pallid comet]

lemme guess
that all gonna jump me

[half hornet]

guys can u parry in this game?

[pallid comet]

iam really glad i played hollow knight
was scared for years that it will be so hard for me

i have git gud genes

[half hornet]

cuz if u can, ur telling me i have over 40 hrs on hollow knight and i didnt know