hk-help

[dusty briar]

yeah that is the strat

[undone jacinth]

||even for practice the double mask damage of ascneded is very punishing which i why i can't even tell what is my current progress
I just die as soon as phase 2 rolls around||

[dusty briar]

||why are you not using quick slash||

[undone jacinth]

||my build is like..... it's set for all of p5 and i do need range for some bosses
That's why I'm trying to stay with my current charms
Even naimaster charm i put after replacing MoP with longnail||

[dusty briar]

bruhhh

[dusty briar]

the strat will work but overlly relying on nail is not worth it

[lucid anchor]

What do I do now??

[radiant raft]

Use focus

[dusty briar]

yep

[undone jacinth]

Hmn.... ||I would try but unfortunately i just didn't use spells enough in main game and am simply not used to them
I used like .... Vengeful spirit in stuff like mato and oro and watcher nights
Abyss shriek in galien
Only in places very set up for these spells
This as it is isn't easy so im already struggling a little ngl
Actively using spells is like added difficulty for me
Though i know it's better||

[lucid anchor]

I know I already did

[dusty briar]

lol

[lucid anchor]

Like what bosses do I go after?

[dusty briar]

||radiance||

[lucid anchor]

Ok

[acoustic sigil]

Nothing specific per se, just go exploring again like nothing happend

[dusty briar]

||you can just relearn it||

[undone jacinth]

Yeah...i will try to do that

[dusty briar]

||because you did nail you are good at dodging||

||so it will help for spells aswell||

[lucid anchor]

Ok

[dusty briar]

gottas learn ||double hits strats||

or ||fluke charm||

[undone jacinth]

If you try to cover any remaining area you will encounter every boss in the process

[undone jacinth]

😮

[dusty briar]

if your a pro

i am not

[undone jacinth]

Same

[faint pivot]

hello

[dusty briar]

hello

[tribal dove]

YEEES

I DID IT

AFTER MORE THAN A WEEK

||PANTHEON 5 IS DEFEATED||

TOO EASY

[radiant raft]

“Easy”

[tribal dove]

yeah

a fraking week dedicated to it

[pallid comet]

FUCK

[tribal dove]

gg

[radiant raft]

[short kettle]

||HoG or P4?||

[pallid comet]

||p4||

[short kettle]

RIP

[tribal dove]

||can i get flower godhome ending while having completed flower quest?||

[radiant raft]

Yes

[tribal dove]

how?

[undone jacinth]

||is hp for markoth p5 equal to attuned or ascended
Also is it a bad idea if i practice for p5 markoth in attuned but use only the platfroms that match with ascneded arena||

[tribal dove]

go to the grave and then get it from there?

[short kettle]

Get some from the ||grave||

[radiant raft]

You can get ||flowers from the grave and give it to people||

[tribal dove]

alr

finally

i exit ||godhome||

[radiant raft]

||RADHoG||

[tribal dove]

no

nononon

[short kettle]

||Attuned health. It's an unpredictable fight so training in Ascended is better. Will give you a better set that will not suffer as much in case things go south in the actual battle.||

[undone jacinth]

||have you done bindings||

[tribal dove]

no

and i would rather die than doing it on ||p5||

[radiant raft]

||Do it or I’ll start playing the Grimm theme poorly on the kazoo and send you it||

[tribal dove]

noooo

please

i just wanna get achievemnts now

[radiant raft]

[undone jacinth]

||im just not getting any farther than the phase 2 mark in ascended because that's double damage ...||

[undone jacinth]

Hmn....then..... nothing left there ig

[tribal dove]

time for ||steel soul||

[brazen current]

||if u complete any ending , can you always go back to that save file and still explore the world? I’ve done the normal ending just not the rest||

[short kettle]

Yes

[acoustic sigil]

Yes

[brazen current]

Sorted

[tribal dove]

rate the build i use for just traveling now

[short kettle]

No ||MoP|| 0/10

[undone jacinth]

[zinc sigil]

||So I am struggling with path of pain. The third part I think||

[chrome anvil]

That's not entirely surprising but I'm proud you made it that far.

[short kettle]

Not much to tell other than practice makes it perfect.

[hoary summit]

agreed

[undone jacinth]

What's your ||charm build tho||

[short kettle]

The third spot, iirc, is one of those were you could die if you dont have soul build ||(in PoP)||.

[tribal dove]

||when i have picked flower up from grave can i stag or dreamgate?||

[hoary summit]

which one? ||mayber send screenshot or sth||

[undone jacinth]

I don't remember....can you hint me how it looks

[short kettle]

No

[tribal dove]

damn

[hoary summit]

no

oh

[short kettle]

Its the two rooms with full screen view

[hoary summit]

would be too easy huh

[short kettle]

You have ||access to totem|| before first, but not the second

[brazen current]

||do the difficulty modifiers for pantheon give any bonuses or reward||

[tribal dove]

yes

[undone jacinth]

The like ..... The ||part before lever ?||

[brazen current]

What

Better be good

[tribal dove]

how many have u done?

[chrome anvil]

||it unlocks a door but idk what else||

[brazen current]

If I was to select all the modifiers on the first one let’s say

[short kettle]

Yeah, ||right after the totem where you drop after hitting lever.||

[tribal dove]

not enough

but u can do them one at a time and it counts

complete 8

and then check next to ||HoG||

[short kettle]

Doing enough unlocks access to an advantage for ||pantheons.||

[brazen current]

Idk what that is

[undone jacinth]

Oh i got it ||the vertical saws part before hidden totem ...||

[brazen current]

But Yh thx just wondering if there’s a reward

[tribal dove]

||hall of gods the place where all the bosses are||

[tribal dove]

there is

one for 8, 12 and 16 done

[brazen current]

Yh sorted thanks

[short kettle]

No, thats after the lever.

[chrome anvil]

||is there a reward for getting radiant on all bosses in HoG or is that just extra?||

[short kettle]

A new ||sick statue to flex.||

[chrome anvil]

Neat

[undone jacinth]

||if you do all bindings for all pantheons
You get a entry in journal and an item of no great use
You get to visit a very very short hidden area
Doing 8, 12, 16 bindings unlocks lifeblood at pantheon benches (3,4,5)||

[undone jacinth]

Oh ok i got it now

[chrome anvil]

That's quite useful and a great reward for that effort

[undone jacinth]

||the lifeblood masks yes
But they're too difficult for me imo||

[brazen current]

I love how quick u can get help here

[chrome anvil]

I like the challenge soo... Idk I'm weird when it comes to these things.

[zinc sigil]

||The part after this||

[carmine panther]

|| Tips on fighting the Mantis guys? ||

[chrome anvil]

Don't get greedy and patience is all I can say

[short kettle]

Use the other build if you have all charms, thats all Ill recommend.

[zinc sigil]

What other build?

[short kettle]

Doesn't make you wait like ||Hiveblood|| does.

[short kettle]

||Grubsong, Grubberfly's Elegy, Deep Focus.||

[undone jacinth]

How about this ?
#hk-help message

[short kettle]

Infinite soul without waiting time.

[undone jacinth]

Oh ok same build

[pallid comet]

So i spent like 5+ hours training||in hog for pv and its going good
Once i enter p4 and go inside pv arena i forget everything||

[chrome anvil]

Happens but that practice will help a lot

[undone jacinth]

||i personally don't try to pogo off the moving saw and just avoid it
Felt easier that way
If you're talking about next room that looks very similar to this one||

[zinc sigil]

|| I just did it ||

[pallid comet]

||pv and nkg my nemesis||

[chrome anvil]

Nice

[chrome anvil]

Oh yeah they can be awful at the best of times

[pallid comet]

The we dont give a fuck about your masks starter pack

[undone jacinth]

Two of the best bosses in the game .... Ive seen worse ..... ||Like markoth||

[pallid comet]

I haven't even touched him in ||hog||

Will never do

[undone jacinth]

Heaven

[pallid comet]

I just causally spam every possible||spell|| at him in ||p4||

[short kettle]

I actually forget ||Shade Soul|| is a thing, I need to use it more often.

Probably because its kinda small without ||shaman stone.||

[chrome anvil]

Wait those two have synergy?

[pallid comet]

What's funny is
My wr with ||mark of pride against pv in hog is so high but i rathered playing shamen stone and spell twister cause i rather suffer with pv than with markoth||

[pallid comet]

Fr

[short kettle]

||Shaman stone|| makes your ||spells|| bigger.

[chrome anvil]

I didn't know it counted as one

[pallid comet]

Bruh

[chrome anvil]

Wait nvm

||though you meant sharp shadow||

[short kettle]

World would've been a better place if ||max notches were 12. You could do the 3 essential nail charms + shaman stone.||

[jaunty night]

Yeah || sharp shadow makes it so your shade spells do damage upon contacting an enemy||

[pallid comet]

I have 113 hours and still didn't beat ||radiance (by choice)||

[pallid comet]

Probably a mod can do that but it feels like cheating

[short kettle]

Beat the better ||radiance|| first

[pallid comet]

Imagine if i beat ||p5 before normal radiance||

Xd

[short kettle]

Yeah I've used plenty of mods, just don't use it for my main save. Main saves use no mod at all, it makes the satisfaction of beating things feel fake.

[undone jacinth]

||Shade spells ? Isn't it just shade cloak one||

[short kettle]

They're being sarcastic

[jaunty night]

Lmao I was joking

[undone jacinth]

Ah....shit

[pallid comet]

I had some mods but nothing big and i got them after i beat ||nkg|| way late game
I have better||voidcharm||, divine fury charm but I don't use it

And better soul regen
When you sit on bench it refill it faster

[undone jacinth]

||i use it on main save but i have literally just benchwarp and disable enemy geo
It was pretty tiring walking long distances after already exploring everything once||

[pallid comet]

I also have the hp bar mod

Makes everything easier

Makes me see how much i suck sometimes

[pallid comet]

Man i haven't gotten out of ||godhome|| for days

I forgot how the map looks like

[tranquil oriole]

you might never see overworld again

it happens to some people

[undone jacinth]

Oooh maybe i will try that sometimes
||I have often felt the lack of a health bar||

[maiden marten]

Any tips for path of pain?

[undone jacinth]

||how about this charm loadout
Last charm can be quick slash||

[short kettle]

@maiden marten

Do that loadout and heal only when you're down by 3 masks so you don't have to deal with the annoying ||elegy|| effect.

[digital river]

Hay can someone help me I want to do a summoner class

[maiden marten]

Thanks

[short kettle]

What do you want help with?

[digital river]

I want to make a summoner class basically

[undone jacinth]

||if charms then weaver song, glowing womb, grimchild?||

[digital river]

I have the first 3 charms

[short kettle]

||Glowing Womb, Grimmchild, Weaversong, Flukenest if you count that.||

[digital river]

||Grim and weaver but with grub song so the weavers will get me soul||

[undone jacinth]

||grubsong would be great addition i think
Weaverlings would give soul||

[undone jacinth]

Yeah exactly

[undone jacinth]

Is it for fun or ?

[digital river]

Ya I don't think I will do fluke

Yes

[short kettle]

Absolutely. Makes ||Weaversong|| the best ||spawner|| charm.

[short kettle]

||Mark of Pride then. To let your weavers reach further.||

[digital river]

Thanks

[undone jacinth]

Ah okay then
I ||did the same thing but with defenders crest for defense for flower quest
If for fun then no need||

[undone jacinth]

That gives a bonus ?!

[digital river]

Ok thanks talk later after the run

[short kettle]

||I personally include Dreamshield in my spawner build||, even though it sucks. It just feels fitting.

[chrome anvil]

||tips for nkg? I'm prioritizing survival since I can't reliably hit him.||

[short kettle]

Yeah

[undone jacinth]

||or sprintmaster for speed ? Maybe range is still better||

[short kettle]

Attack during ||fire bats and flame pillar attacks. Focus on dodging the rest.||

[chrome anvil]

I did see openings there but am not super confident in rushing him then

[short kettle]

Oh, nvm, there's no synergy between ||mop|| and ||weaversong|| apparently

My head's making shit up apparently

[short kettle]

That leaves little to no window to attack. Is there a move where you do feel rushing him?

[undone jacinth]

||grubsong, glowing womb, grimchild, weaversong, sprintmaster is like....8 notches
Defenders crest also has some kind of synergy with glowing womb ..... Could be 9 notches||

We have room for more

[chrome anvil]

||no I was more using sharp shadow with charms like defenders crest and spore shroom to do chip damage since I don't have much room for nail/spell accessories||

[short kettle]

Really not a good idea, especially if you plan on doing more endgame content later.

||The fire pillar attacks is really free hits once you get the hang of it. I suggest learning optimal ways to get in hits when you can over resorting to passive damage or the fight is going to take forver. The longer it goes on, the more you get hit.||

[chrome anvil]

I've noticed that

[short kettle]

How many times have you reached his ||pufferfish|| attack in one battle?

[chrome anvil]

Twice but that was after several hours of grinding and I've only gotten there once

[short kettle]

I suggest doing a good nail loadout and learning him, really.

[chrome anvil]

||something like dm, sm, qs, and us?||

Or should I swap mobility for range?

[undone jacinth]

||sm, qs, us is good
Swap dm for ln||

[undone jacinth]

||how many notches you have||

[chrome anvil]

I have all of them

[undone jacinth]

Then ||add grubsong
Or you can do MoP instead of ln||

[chrome anvil]

||you can't do that without over charming since you need grimchild||

[undone jacinth]

||you won't need dm because you don't need to dash in quick succession for any attck imo||

[undone jacinth]

Ahhhhhh forgot about tgat

[chrome anvil]

Yeah it's a doozy

Good handicap tho

[undone jacinth]

This should work for 9

[chrome anvil]

It does

[short kettle]

What's sm and dm again?

[chrome anvil]

||sprint master and dash master||

[short kettle]

Why would you use those?

[chrome anvil]

Mobility

[undone jacinth]

||on second thought you really need quick slash ?
Even now i don't get more than 1-2 hits in on NKG per attack of his
Maybe us, uh, mop (or grubsong and ln), dm would be great alternative||

[chrome anvil]

It's just habit really

[short kettle]

I think you might want to give all the help you can to your nail.

||Strength, mark of pride, sharp shadow, Sprintmaster/Grubsong|| would be my recommendation

[undone jacinth]

||sprint master might be useful, because your movement speed increases
Dashmaster i see no use of however||

[short kettle]

||Quick Slash|| isn't as valuable because he doesn't stay still enough to give you much hits. It's great, of course, but ||sharp shadow is just too good against nkg||

[undone jacinth]

When ||do you use sharp shadow ?||

[short kettle]

||Dashmaster has synergy with Sprintmaster to further increase your movement speed but both of those charms are a waste of slots in combat imo.||

[short kettle]

||Dashing through the uppercut. Also has the sweet spot of sending you right before him during the fire bats attack.||

[undone jacinth]

Hmn ..... Perhaps,
||However i feel a little movement speed helps in certain bosses to dodge better
Though the synergy with sprint master of 15% more speed is not worth the 2 notches||

[undone jacinth]

Oh...||i dash or walk away and get in a hit before he goes up and vanishes||

Is it more damage with ||sharp shadow||?

[short kettle]

||I'm trash at dodging the fireballs after so dashing away messes up my rhythm. But if you dash through him, you get to stand right where he was and the fireball never hits there.||

[short kettle]

||If you dash through him, of course you're getting some more damage. Really the game changer for me.||

||I tried doing it without it on my second playthrough and kept dying. Equipping it back again made me win it instantly. But im not a fan of that charm outside that so I'm trying to learn him without it for pantheons||

[undone jacinth]

||for uppercut
i dash away / walk away
But he kind of gets near us so i turn around to attack him once before he ascends
And then I don't stop but keep walking
I encountered that it puts me right beside the middle fireball , perfect to dodge||

[dusty briar]

for ||NKG?||

[undone jacinth]

What if ||im able to beat it consistently on attuned with only using the platforms that are common ?
I tried it like that and i can but still can't actually survive past p2 in ascended||

[undone jacinth]

Yeah

[dusty briar]

just need to memorise the moves

||dash through the middle of his 4 bats||

[pale ocean]

||Soul Master... I keep jumping into this guy. Why is he so damn thick||

[undone jacinth]

When ||4 bats ?||

[dusty briar]

||For the 5 fire ball he throws wait for it to get close then dash to the gaps||

[dusty briar]

||he opens his cap and releases 4 bats 2 high and 2 low leaving amiddle gap||

[undone jacinth]

Ah okay

||what if i spam ddark when he does pufferfish ?||

[dusty briar]

||just dodge the fireballs||

[undone jacinth]

Sometimes i can without single hit
Other times i get hit like 3 times

The only attack that's my enemy

[dusty briar]

yeah i think you just need practice for it

[short kettle]

If you think you are really doing that then sure.

[dusty briar]

not something to over come with tricks

[undone jacinth]

I honestly can't practice him any more if I want to stay sane

[dusty briar]

its just dodging

[dusty briar]

lol

||just know when he has 2 fireballs stacked on each other then the attack wil stop||

[pale ocean]

||Anyway, it's fine. On my literal last attempt, I seemlessly grew to understand his attack patterns somehow and then cheesed it with Shaman Stone Howling Wraith||

[undone jacinth]

||yep i never touched the ground or the extra platforms
It was bit harder because i didn't have the center small platform||

[undone jacinth]

Yeah

But he does that in between too sometimes (often)

[dusty briar]

it is just a brute force thing

muscle memory

[dusty briar]

yeah so realise that ||the balls slow down||

[undone jacinth]

😮

[vernal lynx]

I need help with ||Markoth in P5||

Any ideas

Plz

[dusty briar]

||double hits with neutral spell||

dodging

[undone jacinth]

||his swords Don't actually need you to dodge big
You can do it easily by moving a little or jumping while on the same platform
Just make sure he isn't coming near you
Dodge only during sword attacks, don't go for damage
When he does his shield spin thing
Let it spin twice then the shield will move away from him so pogo 4 (5 if fast enough) times to get soul and damage
Do nail in phase 1
Save soul for spells in phase 2
If he's in good position for abyss shriek then great
If not then vengeful spirit||

[vernal lynx]

Ok
Thanks

[undone jacinth]

||if swords spawn outside your view then high chance its directly above or below you so good idea to take chance and dodge to sides||

[carmine panther]

Do I go through ||Royal waterways|| rn? Or ||crystal peaks? i've beaten the soul master and stuff-||

[jaunty night]

|| hollow knight is a game about exploration, go wherever you like ||

[short kettle]

||Crystal Peak would be my suggestion.||

But doesn't change a lot, do the area that looks more interesting.

[unreal wraith]

||i need help with the 3rd trial in the colosseum of fools i keep dying at the part where you cant touch the ground with the flying fellas idk what theyre called anymore 😭|| (ping if you have an answer so that i wake up again)

[short kettle]

||Not much besides the fact that you should keep dashing between walls to give yourself more time to adjust. Besides that, try to enter that part with full soul and use spells to deal with most of it. Learn to nail bounce when you get the opportunity.||

[mighty lion]

try ||pogo-ing off the flying shit and u CAN POGO OFF THE SPIKES||

[vernal lynx]

||spells help a lot||

[mighty lion]

I didnt knew that until today

[unreal wraith]

||I TRY TO POGO OFF THE LITTLE SHITS BUT MY FINGERS KEEP SLIPPING☠️||

[mighty lion]

bruh

[unreal wraith]

okay!!

[short kettle]

There's a cheese strat too if you care for it.

[unreal wraith]

im all ears

[short kettle]

But its more fun to beat it normally.

[short kettle]

||Grimmchild, grubsong, dreamshield, Weaversong and shaman stone.||

||Just cling to the wall when there are floor only enemies and your spawners will farm soul for you. And in the floorless section, you can keep dodging and they'll do the job. Basically you just keep dodging and let your spawners do the thing for you. Pretty easy.||

||Makes the final fight of the trial trivial too if you stick to the wall with crystal dash. Easy win.||

Can be done as a last resort but its way more satisfying to do it normally.

[unreal wraith]

alright! thanks!

[pale ocean]

||I have just died to the Brooding Mawlek||

||Am I going to have to do that whole Parkour path again? I didn't see a shortcut||

[dawn grove]

Yes

[pale ocean]

||By god||

||I have decided I will now go look up how to install mods||

||I am not Gamer enough for pure, undiluted, 30cc of Hollow Knight||

[dawn grove]

You buy it

With ||geo||

[eager sleet]

from where tho

[dawn grove]

||Sly||

[eager sleet]

ok but how d o i get him to sell it

bruh.

[dawn grove]

He sells it normally?

||Lumafly Lantern||

[eager sleet]

no he doesnt

[dawn grove]

Check again

[eager sleet]

shit i forgot

sorry

[jaunty night]

uh

|| mawlek is pretty easy, how far are you into the game? ||

|| also remember that nothing in hollow knight is "required" per se, and you can skip something you are struggling with and come back when you have better stuff ||

[pale ocean]

||Just beat Soul Master. Have Howling Shriek and have the first nail upgrade||

[jaunty night]

wait

|| you have howling wraiths? ||

or do you mean || desolate dive? ||

[pale ocean]

||Howling Wraiths, I mean. Didn't remember the name. But I also have Desolate Dive||

[jaunty night]

ok

[jaunty night]

so yeah, just come back with more stuff

|| if you want, you can show me the charms you're using, that might be the source of your struggle ||

[pale ocean]

||I'm just using Mark of Pride and Spell Twister. Hit when I can, then Vengeful Spirit from a distance||

[jaunty night]

what exactly is causing you to die?

that build is pretty ok

[pale ocean]

||Mostly just being out of position when he does the big spit, or misjudging a dash when he jumps up||

[jaunty night]

|| mawlek can be tricky sometimes ||

just come back later or || buy some stuff from salubra or sly ||

|| mawlek is completely unecessary in terms of major progression, so don't worry about it for now ||

[pale ocean]

||Yeah. I'm not too miffed about the difficulty of the boss itself||

||It's just the walk back||

[jaunty night]

ah the upwards spike tunnel?

[pale ocean]

||Yep||

||And it's a distance away from the bench too||

[jaunty night]

why did you spoiler "yep" lmao

[eager sleet]

about to fight ||broken vessel|| wish me luck

[jaunty night]

gl

[jaunty night]

true

[exotic seal]

||Yo, guys i was fighting Zote the grey prince in dirtmouth for like 3 times, i got nothing. Then i realised that i'm missing one notch and when i searched it turned out to be from that fight. Nothing near bretta nor zote, any idea? ||

[pale ocean]

||Force of habit. And it's easier to spoiler everything than it is to spoiler specific things||

||I've just installed NoWalkOfShame, which makes it much simpler||

||I'll probably disable it for when I'm not dealing with a boss, though||

[fading kiln]

Why we spoiler

[neat karma]

To be mindful of other conversations taking place at the same time. So for example if a new player wants to ask about something early game and someone else asks for something late game the new player would get spoiled

[jaunty night]

what

|| there is no charm notch from gpz ||

i dont know how you got that from google

[radiant raft]

Are you sure it wasn’t ||TMG?||

[radiant raft]

AI overview?

[pale ocean]

||I have returned once more. I got a vessel fragment in Greenpath by pogoing off of some beetle thingies. I also got a grub this way. However, at the end of the path, there was an inscription to read and a one way shortcut that I seem to be on the other side of. No way forward. Everything normal? Or am I missing a path?||

[radiant raft]

Can you send an image of what you’re talking about?

[brazen current]

||does completing each ending count towards progression %||

[pale ocean]

||I just left there, so unfortunately not. But if you can look it up on a map, it's the path directly west of the Stone Sanctuary||

[exotic seal]

Bruh i was fooled

[radiant raft]

No

[digital kite]

||is there any boss i can practice to improve my general performance??||

[mighty lion]

||NGK , Pure vessel , Lost kin (imo) , and Markoth should all improve the performance , from my experience||

[digital kite]

alright

[brazen current]

Ngk impossible 😢

[mighty lion]

just practice and practice , eventually ya will find patterns when u can hit him , and learn how to counter every one of his attacks

[brazen current]

Normal one was so comedically easy in comparison

[mighty lion]

yes it is a pretty big step up

[brazen current]

I think I’m a bit early to fight ngk tho cuz the more I play the more I realise I’m no where near finishing

||only just discorverd godhome and that whole area where the path of pain is||

[digital kite]

sorry i didnt understand it straight away

[brazen current]

No what? 😢

[digital kite]

||i thought you said path of pain was in godhome||

[brazen current]

Nah I meant I just discovered that whole area today

Didn’t know it existed

[digital kite]

welp i gtg farm ||nkg||

[green stone]

Gl

[digital kite]

btw if ||im in a dream do breakable charms break if i die?||

[jaunty night]

no they dont

[digital kite]

then i got a plan

[unreal forge]

|| how do i cut this down ||

[stoic cedar]

||ull have to come from the other side through an area ull encounter later in the game||

[digital kite]

I DID IT

I BEAT ||NKG||

YEEES

IM LITERALLY SHAKING

[green stone]

[round pier]

anyone has any tips for beating ||lost kin radiant||?

nvm i did it

mb

[tribal dove]

do i not get an achievemt from beating ||p5 with flower given to godseeker||?

[stoic cedar]

no (||unless u r beating p5 for the first time, then u just get the normal etv achievement||)

[tribal dove]

bruh

it was not worth the extra 2 hours then

[stoic cedar]

well u just do it for the extra lore

[tribal dove]

welp any tips for speed run and speed completion achievement?

[tribal dove]

its an ending

not really any lore there ig

since all endings technically are canon according to TC

[stoic cedar]

yes im aware, but it does provide a bit of insight about the ||delicate flower|| and its potential powers

[tribal dove]

true

the thing that cant even ||use stag station|| can hold all that power

[tribal dove]

also any tips for this? i reckon its going to be difficult

[jaunty night]

Guide on yt

Or ask #speedrunning

[tribal dove]

alr

[stoic cedar]

#speedrunning is not for speedrunning achievement help as stated in the pinned msgs of that channel

[jaunty night]

Ah

[tribal dove]

i cant wait to do ||steel soul achievements|| 🙂

[jaunty night]

So yeah fireb0rn has a guide on that I believe

[tribal dove]

oh my goat

[verbal widget]

||Guys I need a spoiler free tip, I killed the pre broken vessel (weaker variation of lost kin) and now my forgotten paths are called “infected path”, was anything there missable? Like if I missed something in the forgotten path is it still there in the infected one or it changed the appearance and enemies only? ||

[round pier]

||u can still get everything u could get before||

[stoic cedar]

hello, please spoiler tag ur message as per channel rules

[soft dew]

||does anyone have tips for colo 3||

[solid heart]

I gave you in HK discussion already

[dusty briar]

||the second option||

[glossy shell]

Ahhh

im losing it at || p3 ||

literally this happens everytime || I am fine until uumu, i beat uumu with most likely 5-7 masks, then i get absolutely whooped by hornet ||

|| And I cant even see hornet in the hall of gods so i cant practice with her ||

[stoic cedar]

||why not? u should be able to practice both hornet 1 and hornet 2 in hog||

[glossy shell]

|| Idk i cant find sentinel hornet at all, i've checked the first floor and 2nd floor and shes not there, theres a locked room to the side tho but i cant enter ||

[stoic cedar]

||

whoops

||try flicking the lever on the hornet 1 statue||

[glossy shell]

ahhh

it worked

thanks

wtf

achow

|| Does attuned make the bosses easier in hog ||

|| Cause i just beat her first try even though i get whooped in p3 ||

[stoic cedar]

||p3 has attuned hornet 2 so in ur case no||

[glossy shell]

|| must be mental tricks then cause i beat her first try in hog but die everytime in p3 ||

ill go retry || p3 || now tho

[glossy shell]

I got to || sly's final phase but got blitzed by him ||

at least he'll be in || hog ||

[mellow prism]

how the hell do i get the last five of these ||fuck||ers

[hollow bramble]

||i feel like oro and mato should be fine, (i havent beaten p5 yet so take my words with a grain of salt)||

[glossy shell]

Is obblobes that hard?

[hollow bramble]

just random i feel like

[steep lava]

how to get inside

[hollow bramble]

||u cant get in from here you will discover another way later||

[glossy shell]

||anyone know how the hell I beat slys final phase?||

[hollow bramble]

||some people use nailarts, but the main thing is when he dashes to u, dash away and hit him||

[glossy shell]

Alright I'll try that

[stoic cedar]

||yea these ones are quite difficult but tbh oro and mato and watcher knights shouldnt be too bad, u should be targeting those ones first. for oro and mato u just need to make sure u dont get cornered, make sure u have space to move around and dodge their alternating attacks comfortably. and also make sure u know how to recognize when they are charging a nart, u can recognize that through sound cue or a break in their alternating attacking (usually one will be holding up a defensive stance as the other charges the nart). as for watcher knights.... its just mainly ddark spam, theres not too much more to say about that. u can also go for double hit shade souls on their rolls but u should mainly be using ddark||

[pliant mural]

|| hello! so i just finished my first playthrough and defeated hollow knight. i only have 72% completion, i was aws wondering what else i need to do. cause im pretty sure there is more than just hollow knight cause of the dlc ||

[stoic cedar]

Hello, please spoiler ur message as per channel rules

[unkempt moon]

||can anyone help me find the void heart?||

[neon totem]

|| I desperately need help for the keen hunter achievement I'm missing one encounter and I've cross referenced my journal to the wiki at least 2 times ||

[pallid comet]

||p5 is not real chat||

[pliant mural]

|| also is there anything in the endgame that helps show you where you missed stuff? ||

[pallid comet]

||you need to get awake dream nail first then go into ancient baslin or whatever its called near the stag station and dream nail the white armor knight||

[pallid comet]

Probably save file analyzer

[unkempt moon]

||Ty||

[pliant mural]

is that a website?

[pallid comet]

Yea

[glossy shell]

is ||flukenest|| still broken?

[pallid comet]

Just type hollow knight save file analyzer and you'll find it

[pallid comet]

Above average

[glossy shell]

|| Is it worth it for pantheons? ||

[half hornet]

guys health of ||enraged guardian crystal peaks||

[pallid comet]

Nope

[glossy shell]

|| Idk but its easy if you just jump really high or double jump the laser he shoots at you ||

[pallid comet]

I just finished||p4|| rn with the most average build
||Strength, qslash,shamen,spell twister||

[half hornet]

yea but sometimes he jus hops where im jumpin

[pliant mural]

wait waht this website is super duper helpful

thank you so much

[stoic cedar]

||yes it is still broken but it’s hard to know when to use it to maximize its damage which is why pretty much only speed runners and challenge runners use it||

[pallid comet]

I finished||p4|| in 9.30.min

Do i count as a speedrunner

👽

[half hornet]

what are ||pantheons||?

[stoic cedar]

It’s not particularly a super fast time all things considered but good job regardless

[pallid comet]

Boss rush

But on steroids

[half hornet]

huh

whaa

[pallid comet]

Almost broke my laptop cause of the final boss

[half hornet]

i will not question it further

[pallid comet]

Better not

You'll stumble on it eventually

[glossy shell]

||once you see him go in the air dash backwards and then go back to ur normal strat(Nail him and then jump when hes about to shoot you)||

[glossy shell]

boss rush dlc content and they add new bosses at the end of each one

[half hornet]

yea tru

[pallid comet]

An i died to ||grug mother in p5||

[half hornet]

ohk

[pallid comet]

Then died to ||sister of battle||

[glossy shell]

im stuck on ||p3|| rn

[pallid comet]

I don't think i can track.movement that good

[pallid comet]

||hog will help||

Like alot

[glossy shell]

been trying that

[eternal relic]

I need help For scape

[glossy shell]

i always mess up at ||sly|| or just die randomly

[pallid comet]

The bug giving youhell

[stoic cedar]

Hello, all images of in game content need to be spoilered

[pallid comet]

Yea he is annoying and hard af

You need ||makr of pride||

[glossy shell]

I swear that final phase is the most evil shit imaginable

[eternal relic]

Is. Enter for mantis

[glossy shell]

|| Got that on, i make it to the final phase every single time and then get messed up at the final phase 💔 ||

[pallid comet]

You need to ||dash away as soon as he stop next to you thenhit em once or twice always stay still when he is bouncing||

[eternal relic]

🇮🇲⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛

[pallid comet]

Before he lands dash away

[glossy shell]

I try to do that but still mess up most times, i'll try again tho in || hog ||

[pliant mural]

|| im sorry im just a little bit confused, what do i do after i beat the hollow knight? i want to fully 100% the game but i dont even think ive done the games base dlc yet? ||

[wispy swift]

Any advice on lost kin?

[stoic cedar]

||u should just be exploring around the map and look for anything u haven’t been to yet. Though one of ur primary goals should be to acquire more essence||

[stoic cedar]

Hello, please spoiler tag ur msg as per channel rules

[glossy shell]

||oh wait any charm recommendations for sly?||

[tawny sapphire]

What are you using rn?

[pliant mural]

|| yea thats the weird thing, ive already explored what feels like every nook and cranny, and i thought i did all the dream bosses but i might be missin some, im at 1500 dream essense rn ||

[glossy shell]

||Mark of pride, Unb strength, unb heart, long nail, steady body. But I'm not on sly yet this is just my build for phase 1 of p3, I'm on the bench halfway point rn||

[stoic cedar]

||yea u r missing out on quite a bit of essence, without knowing what uve explored already its hard to say which dream bosses or dream warriors u r missing||

[tawny sapphire]

||Long nail and MoP is overkill, either just use MoP or neither, also Sbody without Quick Slash isn’t very useful||

[glossy shell]

|| You can revisit some old bosses and dream nail them for a load of essence such as broken vessel||

[glossy shell]

O

[jaunty night]

Delete this image please.

[pliant mural]

|| is there any item that will show you the ones your missing?, i dont think ive done fallen knight so ima do that rn ||

[pallid comet]

I feel like i found a geo glitch

||i keep hitting the lady and she gave 6k till now||

I killed the ||singing lady|| what have I done

[tawny sapphire]

Did the bot die

[pliant mural]

|| i actually already did broken vessel, but i didnt know this applied to all bosses ||

[stoic cedar]

Been dead for a long while now

[glossy shell]

||Im thinking of doing this then: Unb strength, Unb heart, MoP, Quick focus?||

[tawny sapphire]

that’s like the only one with actual consequences…

[tawny sapphire]

Yeah that looks good

[tawny sapphire]

Not all, some of them

[pallid comet]

Wdym

[glossy shell]

|| Do the failed champion or whatever his name is(Big guy at the crossroads), Dung defender, and i kinda forgot the rest midway through but yeah. You can also find some essence tree things on the map if you havent done em ||

[tawny sapphire]

Go back to ||CoT||

[pallid comet]

Whats that?

[glossy shell]

Wish me luck i've probably had like 50+ attempts on this so far

[tawny sapphire]

||City of Tears||

[glossy shell]

|| City of tears||

[pallid comet]

Oh ok

Which part exactly

[tawny sapphire]

Any part is fine

[glossy shell]

|| I accidentally killed nailsmith... ||

[pliant mural]

oka

[pallid comet]

I left him Alive cause he's nice

[tawny sapphire]

Eh I kill him every run

[jaunty night]

Could we get a mod to delete that spoiler image?

[tawny sapphire]

Yeah ping one

@vivid fog we have an unspoilered image

Also hai

[vivid fog]

oh

sure

[jaunty night]

Ty

[vivid fog]

?tag imgspoilers @eternal relic

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

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[vivid fog]

no prob :D

[vivid fog]

hii

[tawny sapphire]

Oh man gwnj didn’t say hi to me

Nvm

[vivid fog]

:3

[tawny sapphire]

Hruuu??

[pliant mural]

|| are you supposed to not be able to gain soul while fighting failed champion??? ||

[vivid fog]

checking instagram wbu :D

[tawny sapphire]

I am leaving to get breakfast

:3

[half hornet]

guys i beat him ez

[tawny sapphire]

🔥

[tawny sapphire]

Yes

[pliant mural]

damn this is gonna be hard

[pallid comet]

||now after i did p4 and 70% of hog ascended or radiant i should probably try to kill radiance||

[pliant mural]

|| also im missing a sword techinque, i only have great slash and the whirl pool one, where do i find the last one? ||

[pallid comet]

How do i skip credits

||sly||

[glossy shell]

|| God damn it i just died to sly again ||

[pallid comet]

Ironic

[pliant mural]

|| is there like a yt guide for what to do after you beat base hallow knight? ||

[pallid comet]

You mean the boss or 112%?

[glossy shell]

|| Okay so im in hog and fighting sly, final phase, genuinely how do I hit him without getting hit, im getting near and dashing but the nail just wont reach ||

[ebon copper]

if you are finding it hard to hit him with your normal nail hits, you could go for ||nail arts or for fireballs||

[glossy shell]

|| I beat him all the time in hog by just getting hit but doing 2 nail hits in the final phase per attack so i guess i gotta save up on health ||

[tame mesa]

Usually I have mark of pride so I would equip that if I were you if your struggling and if your still struggling maybe put longnail on top of that

[tawny sapphire]

Have you unlocked the entire map?

[tawny sapphire]

Probably yeah but I won’t recommend

[hollow bramble]

care spoilers

[half hornet]

there are two entrances here as of the map in ||crystal peak|| but i cant go there

first entrance u cant ||wall jump nor double|| jump

second one its jus blocked

[sacred horizon]

neither of these ||are rooms you haven't been to, they are only where you fall in||

[half hornet]

yea i get that

but how do i get there

[sacred horizon]

similar to how ||if you jump off howling cliffs you get into kings pass, but if you cdash you get into dirtmouth||

[sacred horizon]

top left of ||peaks you can climb rly high|||

[tawdry furnace]

How do i make spoiler messages

[acoustic sigil]

||like this||

[acoustic sigil]

(Left = right)

[tawdry furnace]

||thanks||

Any tips for the ||three bosses before absolute radiance in p5||

Mainly ||markoth||

[stoic cedar]

||the 3 bosses before absrad are failed champ, nkg, and pv. I’m assuming u r asking about the last 7 bosses of p5?||

[jaunty night]

Practice practice practice

[tawdry furnace]

||i tried for like a hour and didn’t beat markoth not even the second phase||

[jaunty night]

In hog?

[tawdry furnace]

Whats hog?

[jaunty night]

|| the hall of gods ||

[tawdry furnace]

Yeah

[jaunty night]

|| ascended or attuned markoth? ||

[tawdry furnace]

||ascended||

[jaunty night]

Ok

[tawdry furnace]

||i got attuned like first try||

[jaunty night]

|| what's your build ||

[tawdry furnace]

||the sharp shadow is for grim||

[jaunty night]

Toss || sharp shadow ||

It's unnecessary

Learn || to beat nkg without it ||

[tawdry furnace]

||i can but it makes it way easier||

||but what should i switch it for||

[jaunty night]

Depends

|| nail or spells, you seem to be running a hybrid build but with no soul twister ||

[tawdry furnace]

Thinking ||spell twister||

[glossy shell]

||just beat p3 let's goo||

[pallid comet]

ok i will be honest i died more time to ||nkg and pv than radiance||

[short kettle]

Yeah, she's easier than them, it's intentional

[pallid comet]

prepare for the big boss at ||p4||

[short kettle]

They're both DLC bosses added later for more challenge

[jaunty night]

That doesn't make sense

|| absrad is also a dlc boss||

[short kettle]

But they're talking about ||Radiance||

[jaunty night]

Ohh

[short kettle]

Not ||Abs Rad||

[pallid comet]

wanna know whats funny
after i got the ||voidheart i said i have to pratice other WEAKER bosses to be ready for her then i go play against nkg and lose for 2 days and p4 was hell cause pv hitbox
so today i decided i will go fight radiance and that shit is sooo easy||

[jaunty night]

|| they described p5 boss order so I assumed ||

[pallid comet]

you just ||abyss shriek||

[pallid comet]

oh shit

INORDER

WDYM

[jaunty night]

Not in order

Exactly

But the final 3

[pallid comet]

this will be interesting

[short kettle]

A nightmare, yes

[pallid comet]

if i reach ||nkg it will be good cause he is a free healing boss||

but i died at ||sob||

ohhh ||the void menu is so good||

[short kettle]

Yeah, but ||p5's last stretch is punishing in general. Ascended Markoth arena, NKG, PV, GPZ and the final boss.||

[pallid comet]

man i forgot about ||makroth and gpz||

i need to train alot for them

chat i did it

[short kettle]

Best boss fight. Killer theme, challenging without pissing you off, surprise factor the first time you fight em.

I just love it.

[pallid comet]

my nightmare bosses are ||nkg kinda , pv, gpz, god tamer||

[short kettle]

||God Tamer?||She's pretty easy, you just spam ||ddark||

[pallid comet]

i hate it

xddddd

you can also pogo her

or her yk

fella

[tulip mountain]

Charms to beat ||path of pain||

Pls help

[short kettle]

Yeah, especially when it spits

[pallid comet]

you dont beat ||pop||

it beats you

[short kettle]

||Grubsong, deep focus, grubberfly's elegy||

[tulip mountain]

Oh ok

[short kettle]

• ||Quick Slash or Mark of Pride. Mark of Pride if you're really good at nail pogo.||

[glossy shell]

Nothing is worse than || fucking sly ||

[short kettle]

Yes, yes it is.

[tulip mountain]

Yes

[short kettle]

No

[pallid comet]

||ddark|| is so broken my whole issue with ||pv that i count dodge his ground spike attacks so i just ddark and screw it||

[tawdry furnace]

which one is it

[short kettle]

Doesn't

[glossy shell]

I've suffered through like 6 hours of || p3 ||

[pallid comet]

well there is something worse

[tawdry furnace]

if so then its easy

[pallid comet]

but its fun

[glossy shell]

||sly|| is hard as balls but i liked the fight enjoyability wise

[tulip mountain]

What do u get if u beat ||p5 all bindings?||

[short kettle]

Eh, if you think so

[glossy shell]

i like all the new fights ngl

[pallid comet]

i also hate ||the brothers with nailarts||

[glossy shell]

|| I love them 😭 oro and mato and goated ||

[pallid comet]

||p5 gives you an ending and binding dont give you anything||

[tulip mountain]

Oh ok

[glossy shell]

they remind me of the ||mantis lords||

[pallid comet]

the reason i hate them cause i cant do ||p1 no charms without losing||

[glossy shell]

ohh are u doing ||binding?||

[pallid comet]

yea for the blue door

i did 7 total

need 1 more

[glossy shell]

|| When i first got into godhome i saw bindings and i pressed all the bindings and did the pantheon ||

[glossy shell]

what does it do?

[short kettle]

||Lifeblood at pantheon benches.||

[pallid comet]

you see the door beside ||hog it gives you lifeseeeds in p5||

[glossy shell]

Ohh

[pallid comet]

wait does it give seeds at all ||pantheons||???

[short kettle]

Unlocks at 8, upgrades at 12 and 16 for ||more lifeblood masks||.

[glossy shell]

|| I might try to do it once i beat p4 because I know im gonna spend a week minimum on p5 ||

[pallid comet]

how many does it give me at 8

[glossy shell]

8 what?

[pallid comet]

||8 bindings||

total

[short kettle]

||bindings||

[glossy shell]

oh

[short kettle]

2 I think

[pallid comet]

the waht now

all of this bs for 2

[short kettle]

3 actually

[pallid comet]

the total is 5

[pallid comet]

yea souns about right

[short kettle]

Increases by one at every milestone

[short kettle]

This is wrong by the way

Also, you didn't spoiler it right

[pallid comet]

i cant imagine myself beating p4 ||with bindings beside the nail one||

maybe shell

[pallid comet]

yea i did now

[pallid comet]

ohh i thought it did

[short kettle]

||You need to do all pantheons with all bindings for access to a special area that's just cool to look at + a new extra journal entry||

[pallid comet]

how many ending are there?

[glossy shell]

5

[pallid comet]

ALL OF THEM WITH ||BINDINGS ||

NAHH

[stoic cedar]

Important to note for that, the ||bindings|| can be done one by one

[pallid comet]

yea which is still painful

[short kettle]

also, doing any ||pantheon|| with all ||bindings|| at once makes the orb above the door glow brighter.

If you do it ||hitless, it grows bright. If you do all bindings at once, it glows even brighter. the second one overwrites the first one.||

[stoic cedar]

Eh, ||if u have the skills to beat p5, p5 with individual bindings is not as big of a skill jump as u would expect. ||

[pallid comet]

so lets do some math
i did the normal one
the second normal one
||and voidheart||

[glossy shell]

2 left

[pallid comet]

i know there is one at ||godhome||

but cant remember the last

[short kettle]

Two

[pallid comet]

oh

[short kettle]

Depending on whether you give ||godseeker the delicate flower or not before beating p5||

[glossy shell]

|| theres 2 endings and one of them has to do with the delicate flower ||

[pallid comet]

but i already did the ||flower quest||

[short kettle]

You can get more where you delivered it

[pallid comet]

OHHHH

[radiant raft]

You can get ||flowers from the grave||

[pallid comet]

thats nice

wait thats not nice

does it still break?

[radiant raft]

Yes

[short kettle]

Give it to npcs. Like ||Elderbug||.

[pallid comet]

yea he is better without the flower

[short kettle]

ANd yeah, all rules apply.

[glossy shell]

Yeah but its still infinite

[glossy shell]

give it to him, trust me

[pallid comet]

yea i heard there are interactions but i thought only before you deliver it

[glossy shell]

hes in the ||crossroads|| anyways so its nowhere near as long as the og

[stoic cedar]

||it is actually more convenient since u can save and quit to ur last bench with the flower pickup at the grave, which wasn’t possible at grey mourner due to the hard save at mourner after flower pickup. So u can essentially choose which bench u want to “start” the flower quest at||

[glossy shell]

oh i mean ||dirtmouth||

[pallid comet]

btw||the second normal ending is were hornet dies right ||?

[short kettle]

Yes

[pallid comet]

good

[short kettle]

Or moreso ||sealed||

[radiant raft]

Doesn’t die

[glossy shell]

|| Wait hornet dies? ||

[radiant raft]

No

[glossy shell]

|| I legit got that ending and didnt think she died ||

isnt she like

||sealed||

[short kettle]

Might as well be dead if ||she's gonna sleep the rest of her life like the dreamers||

[pallid comet]

you need the ||voidheart||

||i wish the heart had more uses||

[glossy shell]

I've gotten those endings, just the ||godhome|| ones left

[glossy shell]

tag that btw

[glossy shell]

True

[pallid comet]

i did

[glossy shell]

Wait what on my screen it isnt

[pallid comet]

w sister

[short kettle]

Its tagged for me

[pallid comet]

he meant the one below it probably cause i didnt tag it

but then i did

[short kettle]

Do the ||pale court|| mod after main game, yall

Real final boss is in there

[pallid comet]

yea i heard its good

but i will do ||steelmode and speedruns for achive||

[radiant raft]

Can’t:(. don’t have steam.

[short kettle]

And hard as hell

[short kettle]

Console?

[radiant raft]

Yeah

[pallid comet]

dont need steam i think

[pallid comet]

ohh

rip

i saw a boss in pale court that looks lke ||pv||

was nice

[glossy shell]

Cries in nintendo switch

why did i tag that

[pallid comet]

habit

does even pale mod count as spoiler?

we didnt say whats inside the mod

[glossy shell]

dunno

[short kettle]

It's the ||five great knights|| from the main game lore.

[pallid comet]

oh i see

[glossy shell]

Was seeing someone do it on youtube it looks sick

i always wanted to fight em

[short kettle]

I think it does, it's highly regarded as one of the best mods if not the best. Top, top quality stuff.

[glossy shell]

i also learnt that || grey mourner is a knight||

[pallid comet]

damn youre motivating me to try it

butt

however

i have some ||p5 and pop to win ||

[glossy shell]

i mean if u have a pc or something that can mod it just do it

[short kettle]

Yeah, we know because of ||White Defender|| fight.

[pallid comet]

iam more scared of ||pop than p5||

[short kettle]

All ||knights'|| silhouettes in the bg

[glossy shell]

i skipped it 🙃

was too burnt out and just wanted to get the ending

[short kettle]

Nah, ||p5|| is easily harder.

Or maybe Im just better at platforming than fighting.

[pallid comet]

i have ocd
i love to order
||p5 for ending and radiant bosses then true compilation then remaining achive||

[short kettle]

You can still do it, he's there

There's also an exploit in that battle that makes the fight trivial

[glossy shell]

|| I have an old save file from like 2 years ago where i got to white palace and quit the game before beating it, and i got the 3 endings on my new playthrough but none on the other. So i revisited it and went to PoP, honestly not that bad i just got fucked because i equipped both long nail and Mark of pride at once and it ruins pogoing.||

[glossy shell]

|| I'll do it after p5 probably||

[short kettle]

How far did you get?

[pallid comet]

bro is pogoing the celling

[short kettle]

Well you'll have to fight him in ||p4||

Idk if ||p4|| even unlocks if you skip him actually

[glossy shell]

I think around the halfway point in just like an hour which isn't THAT bad considering im not great at this game, worse things have happened.

[glossy shell]

His design looks sick

kinda wish we got to fight || the 5 knights in white palace ||but i heard it wouldnt make sense lore wise

[pallid comet]

this game is peak

best i have played in the last 3 years

[short kettle]

Yeah, few of them are dead

It would have to be where they died

If at all

[pallid comet]

who?

[short kettle]

||White doma doma doma||

[pallid comet]

xddddd

he is silly

tanky af

[glossy shell]

I mean || the white palace is set in the memory of a kingsmould, so it would depend when that kingsmould died if anything right? ||

[pallid comet]

tho

[short kettle]

||It was the pale king's retreat, I don't think we're exactly doing a kingsmould's memory.||

||Pale king just used it to hide away in dream realm||

[pallid comet]

i wished he had better design

he looks weak

[glossy shell]

Ooo i did not know that

i love his design

[short kettle]

Might be intentional, ||he's not really portrayed as the good guy||

[pallid comet]

i wanted him taller

[short kettle]

In the end he had to hide away from his mistakes

[pallid comet]

like the knights in the ||white palace||

[glossy shell]

i dont mind the height

after all || thk, hornet, the knight are super small too(thk was the same height as the knight at one point||

and so are like

the other thousands of ||shades in the abyss||

[short kettle]

I liked that we expected him to be something grand and powerful looking but when we get there, ||he's just a hollowed out, small, empty shell. A good way of telling that he's not all that he was worshipped to be||

[stoic cedar]

||none of the dream bosses are required for pantheon unlocks, only their real world counterparts are required||

[glossy shell]

|| I wonder what the pale king was feeding the hollow knight, he grew 4x his own size ||

[radiant raft]

He was still powerful and ||it hurt to look at the guy||

[short kettle]

||Because of the light lmao||

[glossy shell]

|| Reaching the end of the white palace and then seeing him dead on his throne was the peak of the game for me ||

[pallid comet]

thats nice there is a bench before ||pv||

[radiant raft]

||He died of big sad||

Like a nerd

[short kettle]

My understanding is that ||he enthralled the bugs into worshipping him beyond what they could understand him as. And when the consequences of his actions dawned upon his kingdom, he resorted to infanticide and lastly running away when everything failed, leaving his kingdom to die. Not any better than Radiance.||

[glossy shell]

|| I heard if you go to the white palace again he's not there anymore tho which is kinda disappointing but I got another save file on the white palace sooo idc ||

[pallid comet]

so my problem lies in ||sly, no eyes cause of the arena , markoth cause of the arena,zote cause he is an annoying bitch||

[glossy shell]

|| Just go airborne for zote he's easy once you know the right times to go airborne ||

[pallid comet]

whats annoying is ||markoth and zote are back to back in p5||

LIKE WHY

there aint even room for healing against ||zote||

[glossy shell]

|| I'm no hollow knight lore expert at all but didn't he sacrifice his son(thk) for the sake of the kingdom? And when you dreamnail his dead corpse, it says "No cost too great" implying he would do anything for the kingdom. At least that's what I think it means. ||

[radiant raft]

||He elevated the minds of bugs and as such they worshipped him as a god king and when the Radiance(who was mad at being forgotten by the moths.) began infecting everyone PK had no other choice but to do the Vessel project(the infanticide). And after it failed he fled to the dream realm out of shame||

[pallid comet]

only when stagger

[glossy shell]

Is he considered bad by most people?

[short kettle]

He ||bred out a million vessels to pick THK. It wasn't a sacrifice of his loving son, it was his need to be worshipped and retain his kingdom that he didn't care about killing a million of his kids to have that.||

[glossy shell]

|| Haven't done p4 yet so idk about markoth but he was easy in kingdoms edge ||

[radiant raft]

It depends on the person but most people view him as bad because they misunderstand the lore. He wasn’t really a bad guy

[short kettle]

You just repeated what I said.

[ebon copper]

yall should move over to #hk-lore

[short kettle]

That's a bold assumption.

[pallid comet]

xd
you fight ||markoth in the ascended arena ||

[pallid comet]

we are keeping the channel lively

[ebon copper]

this is a help channel, whats more important than it being lively is it being not wildly offtopic

[radiant raft]

We probably move should this over to the lore channel

[glossy shell]

|| Well I don't think the origins of his bond with THK were out of love, but later on it's shown that the Pale King loved his son from the PoP Cutscene ||

oh yea

lore channel is probably better

[short kettle]

Yeah, let's shift over.

[zinc sigil]

||stuck on the part of path of pain||

[radiant raft]

Hmm yes “the part”

[bright sorrel]

[zinc sigil]

Forgot to add “final”

[tranquil oriole]

i mean

that is the part

if there ever was a part

that’s the one

[bright sorrel]

🦦

🍃

[tranquil oriole]

🦦

omg leaves

did he fall from a tree

is he ok

[bright sorrel]

its the leaf on the head

in the pfp

[tranquil oriole]

?av

[languid radish]

choombert.

Server Avatar

[tranquil oriole]

surprised pikachu otter

[eager sleet]

is it bad that I got the ||monarch wings before getting the hunters journal||

[radiant raft]

||Hunters journal can be gotten whenever really you’re fine.||

[tawdry furnace]

Can i get the ||defeat nkg|| achievement after ||skipping the boss or do i need to make a new save||

[jade sedge]

Do you still need help?

[zinc sigil]

Yep

[jade sedge]

||You need to make a new save. You didnt really miss out on anything though because banishment has its own achievement too, you would have had to make a new save regardless||

[pallid comet]

why do i feel that ||ascended sob are faster than normal||

they arent right ?

[short kettle]

Yeah, they've got more hp

[pallid comet]

oh that make sense

[short kettle]

In total, the battle has the second highest HP in game.

[half hornet]

how many times can u earn ||charm notches via collo of fools first trial||

[pallid comet]

who is the highest?

[pallid comet]

only one lol

[half hornet]

BBRUUU

why does it say i can fight it again

[pallid comet]

you will have ||11 notches total||

[half hornet]

for geo and ||notches||

[half hornet]

?

i have 8 rn

[short kettle]

Final boss of ||p5|| on any difficulty

[pallid comet]

🥀

[short kettle]

Then you're missing some elsewhere

[half hornet]

what shud i use on ||collo||

[half hornet]

bru k ill see

my map only has two places left, one is ||watchers spire|| and the other is that ||traitors lord guy||

and one from the person who sells em

[short kettle]

You're missing rooms with charms and notches

Explore each area more

[half hornet]

theres no rooms left on my map

[half hornet]

except for these

[pallid comet]

does ||strength and elegy work together or not||

[viscid plank]

What are the best charms to ||beat nightmare king grimm? (i only have 10 slots)||

[neat nymph]

i think quick focus will be good

[pallid comet]

my fight against him i took||soul eater ,strength,sharpshadow and probably something else but i forgot||

[harsh kernel]

bro forgot the spoilers

[pallid comet]

what is the best build /way to ||radiant soul knights||

[viscid plank]

My bad

[jade sedge]

Please spoiler tag your message

[viscid plank]

Thanks

[jade sedge]

Same for you, please use spoiler tags

[digital kite]

how do i get to this fella?

[digital kite]

ok, thanks

[short kettle]

They don't necessarily show up on map. ||For example, go to the room right before where you fight Soul Master. There's a hidden room above there that has one of the best charms in the game.||

[glossy shell]

You were right in the best way possible

|| p4 final boss is definitely harder than p3 ||

but im literally astonished

i took like 500 screenshots the moment i saw || thk ||

i died in like 5 seconds but it was worth it

[pallid comet]

yea he is overwhelming at first

took me sometime there

btw when he drop to 350 hp there is an attak that will leave your jaw on the floor

so

jump

xd

like rly high

[glossy shell]

I can fight him in || hog right?||

[haughty parcel]

yup

[pallid comet]

yea

[pseudo mason]

||
what i need to do to make this disappear||

[haughty parcel]

||late-game item, you’ll find it in the abyss||

[pseudo mason]

oh

bcs im stuck

every place i go

[pallid comet]

@glossy shell flexing

[pseudo mason]

there is this wall

idk where should i go

||last boss i killed is hornet second time||

[haughty parcel]

||Hornet Sentinel?||

[tawdry furnace]

Should i ||download a save and use it||

Or just do the speedrun trophy and do it after

[haughty parcel]

||Now you can get that item I was talking abt, go to ancient basin and a door will open for you to go into the abyss||

[glossy shell]

Give me a week and I have a 50% chance of doing that

[pseudo mason]

here?

[tawdry furnace]

Ye