hk-help

[static axle]

ah yes

[ornate bison]

Why do you guys call it ||fireball|| isn't it called something like, uhhh nvm I understand

[wet bane]

also when do you unlock ||overcharmed|| I don't remember how I got it during my first playthrough

[static axle]

you sometimes find out things just by trying out

[wide basin]

The Word that i want to say os ||long nail||.

[keen stream]

idk its name tbh

[static axle]

you can do it anytime

[ebon copper]

meii is doing postgame, you are probably all good

[neat karma]

||you get overcharmed just by trying to put a charms with more notches than you have available||

[ornate bison]

I understand now why you call it that

[keen stream]

spam a charm that you cant equip

[stiff hedge]

||yeah bad charm as its very small increase, replace with spell twister and its good||

[static axle]

well ||fireball is easier to type than vengeful spirit||

[ebon copper]

ello ismo

[wet bane]

when I tried that it didn't let me equip it?

[neat karma]

hop on among

[ornate bison]

Easier to remember too

[wet bane]

hmm maybe I did it wrong

[ornate bison]

Spam

[neat karma]

||doesnt work if you have all your notches full||

||you need at least one space, and use a charm thats 2 or more||

[wide basin]

I dont know what is ||spell twister||.

[static axle]

thats not the case, if you are a good hk fan then you basically even remember the name of every NPC in the game

[distant lance]

Say long blade or smth

Or long screw

[keen stream]

if you have an extra ||notch||, spam a charm that uses more ||notch||, you'll see the thing glow purple or smth

[stiff hedge]

||found in soul sanctum above soul master||

[distant lance]

It sounds less jarring

[static axle]

if you dont know then maybe you havent found it

[distant lance]

To the right and above his room

[neat karma]

i believe stinger is a name of the nail in another translation for the game

[keen stream]

its more useful than ||long nail||, you'll prolly find it at some point

[distant lance]

If that’s the case ||Hive Knight|| should be dead

[neat karma]

||longnail is kinda useless mid to late game, mostly a placebo||

[keen stream]

its absolutely useless the wholr game imo

[neat karma]

||the change isnt significant enough to warrant its use and you never need it in comparison to the regular nail size||

[stiff hedge]

not useful early game either unless you're trying to do ||deathless ibaulder||

[static axle]

||longnail|| is one of the most useless charms in the game

[distant lance]

It makes your range longer by like four f-ing pixels

[wide basin]

15%

[stiff hedge]

still bad

[distant lance]

Doesn’t feel like it

[ebon copper]

||longnail|| would be great for 1 ||notch||, too bad its 2

[neat karma]

||it can be a tad helpful early game, but i wou|ldnt suggest using it there either because people tend to get used to it and never removing it afterwards||

[keen stream]

still bad, its like adding 15% to 1

[wide basin]

How i can tag a image with spoiler

[static axle]

trust me ||dashmaster and sprint master|| is the best charm combo

[stiff hedge]

the eyeball above the img

[neat karma]

?tag imgspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 All spoiler rules also apply to images of in-game content. To tag an image, follow these instructions: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349116318865424384/1048068304801120336/HK_Discord_Spoilers.jpg

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[distant lance]

||Mark Of Pride|| may only be 25% bigger but it feels so much cooler with the altered sprite

[stiff hedge]

eyeball

[ornate bison]

The sprite changes?

[keen stream]

i forgot to play hk yesterday, i wish i didn't get rusty that quickly

[distant lance]

The sprite of the slash

It’s got like a cooler curve to it

[ebon copper]

||mark of pride|| is kinda hard to pull away from lategame if you used it a lot

[wide basin]

Only ||p5|| is missing

[ornate bison]

Idk I barely pay any attention to it

[static axle]

real

[keen stream]

you done with ||steel soul||?

[ebon copper]

tbf, you really dont need to start considering giving up on ||mop|| until you do ||bindings||

[stiff hedge]

if ||you can do almost everything radiant then p5 should be free||

[static axle]

but it feels useless against ||crystal guardian|| lol

[neat karma]

yeah those are called bad habits, which is what ||personally downgrades mop a bit for me||

[wide basin]

No, I'm doing it.

[keen stream]

totally agree

[neat karma]

cant really recommend it as much because of it

[keen stream]

||mop|| is only good for certain bosses ngl

[static axle]

does anyone use ||deep focus||

[ebon copper]

but if you dont intend to do super endgame content its just great tho

[wide basin]

I always end up dying in the ||absrad||.

[keen stream]

but its kinda useless on most bosses if you know the spacing

[stiff hedge]

just practice it in ||hall of gods|| and then easy

[wide basin]

Yeah.

[prisma scroll]

What is it?

[ebon copper]

well, yes, but its really relaxing to play with it

[keen stream]

use ||quick and deep focus||

[keen stream]

is it? i find it kinda annoying sometimes

[wide basin]

I do the hardest thing and die climbing the platforms.

[ebon copper]

everytime i equip it back, i feel like im playing on easy mode

[distant lance]

Not gonna say. I’m warning you though

[prisma scroll]

Kk

[distant lance]

Ping me when you get to that fight

[static axle]

after ||pv||? i dont think so

[ornate bison]

Roe

[keen stream]

I'd sometimes push myself to death because of ||mop||

[prisma scroll]

?

[keen stream]

i used it, its fckn easy mode

[ornate bison]

Fish egg

Yummy

[distant lance]

Caviar

[static axle]

ahh i see

[stiff hedge]

if platform phase is the hardest then try avoid using ||claw|| and just use ||wings and normal jump||

[ebon copper]

||skill issue||

[static axle]

kk ill cya guys later

[wide basin]

The things I want most in this game are the ||void idol and broken mask||.

[ebon copper]

i mean, compared to ||charm binding||, its a great build

[stiff hedge]

what is broken mask

[distant lance]

Brain damage

[ebon copper]

||mask|| is considerably easier

[ebon copper]

||weathered mask|| ofc

[stiff hedge]

oh

what are you missing ||ascended||

oh nvm

lol

[wide basin]

Abs

This demon.

[stiff hedge]

if only i had discord nitro i could send a vid of me doing ||absrad||

[neat karma]

youtube

[ebon copper]

i can send 1

[stiff hedge]

takes too long

[ebon copper]

sec

sadly this is the best i have on vid

not the most graceful, but gets the job done

[stiff hedge]

i mean i could screenshare and even do it ||radiant|| im quite consistent

bro its so unagressive wtf

get up in there hes not that scary

this isn't ||any rad|| you dont need to sit in the middle for platform phase 😭

[ebon copper]

welp, no reason to chase hard on|| radiant||

[stiff hedge]

more dmg=quicker=less dmg taken

[ebon copper]

i am more agressive when i do it now, but still, advising to rush for someone who hasnt done it makes no sense

[stiff hedge]

true

[keen stream]

its funny how fast ||stag dude|| appears with qol

[bleak gale]

if youre doing ||radiant|| then its definitely the safest and most consistent way

[stiff hedge]

you can at least move slightly and not hardlock yourself to the middle and still be safe

[keen stream]

its the safest way to do the ||platform|| phase tho

[bleak gale]

theres not much reason to unless she goes to the plat left or right of middle and she didnt

maybe moving closer to her so you can see what shes doing helps a bit for ||ddark|| timing if you need to

but otherwise theres not much reason to

[keen stream]

im rusty af

cant even kill ||absrad|| 1st phase now

[subtle bear]

How do you get into the general voice voice chat?

[neat karma]

#support-and-faq

[subtle bear]

Thx

[keen stream]

i got banned from fighting ||absrad|| for some reason

[vague cloak]

No more fight for you

[low tundra]

How do I beat || colo 2? || I keep dying to the || great hoppers||

[keen stream]

you can use ||mop|| if you keep dying to them

or blast them with ||fireball||

yall, any advice in this phase?

[ebon copper]

middle platform and ||shriek|| when its safe

[keen stream]

yeh but she never tp near me for some reason

she would but only once or twice

then i die

[ebon copper]

just wait

play consistently and wait

[keen stream]

is there a mod that adds a keybind for each ||spell||?

[ebon copper]

bruh

xd

[keen stream]

i cant use ||ddark||

[trim hawk]

I guess you could probably use some ahk script

[wary gust]

Zoinks

Just run under them vro

[wary gust]

Run is dead gg

[trim hawk]

the one I use the least anyways

[keen stream]

aight, i now have a keybind for each ||spell||

[ebon copper]

how many times do you have to stagger ||hegemol|| in ||pale court mod||?

[lusty yarrow]

|| This isn't just a really hard pogo, right? I'm missing something, right? Tell em how I can get to this ceiling thingy||

[keen stream]

you need to ||cdash||

[wary gust]

Dude you have an ability that lets you fly off walls 💔

[lusty yarrow]

What, the ||mantis claw||? Cause that won't work. Same with the ||crystal heart|| as you need to be grounded to use that

[keen stream]

did you even explore that area?

[stoic cedar]

||u can cdash off walls||

[ebon copper]

you dont

[lusty yarrow]

Yeah, I'm trying to anyway but it's hard to differentiate between where I can be and where I cannot yet be

[ebon copper]

imma help, you can be close to everywhere

[lusty yarrow]

Oh

Nvm

[ebon copper]

you have ||wings and claw, and cdash||

[wary gust]

||you can use crystal heart on walls lol||

[ebon copper]

thats enough for nearly anything

[lusty yarrow]

Didn't know you could use the || crystal heart|| one alls

[keen stream]

if you explored ||crystal peak||, you should have this

its the supersonic flight

[lusty yarrow]

Yes I have it, I just didn't know you could do it on walls

[keen stream]

pls do read the description of ||skills or abilities|| you find

[thick wing]

I am not sure but to escape the area where you get the ability you need to ||c-dash|| on a wall.

[keen stream]

?tag uncspoiler

[languid radish]

No tag uncspoiler found.

[keen stream]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[neat karma]

I find it funny how youre using that tag when it applies to you a few messages earlier

[bleak gale]

you can try a top platform strat

bro chat hates me

[keen stream]

im gonna cry

[bleak gale]

you can try a top platform strat

[keen stream]

so any platform as long as its in the middle?

[ebon copper]

||fury?||

[bleak gale]

yes middle is best cause you can get to her quick and wall attacks arent as scary if theyre on the far side

[keen stream]

yeh

just in case i got down to 1 mask while climbing

[ebon copper]

hm

[bleak gale]

||middle strat is basically drop down to her if she teleports to bottom 3 plats and ddark her if her eyes are glowing then get back up to the top when its safe. if shes on the very far left or right then you can shade soul her for double hits with shaman stone (80 damage each pretty good)||

[keen stream]

its my 2nd phase

[bleak gale]

if she ||teleports above you or to either side of you, just jump and attack her from the middle platform unless she does an attack then get away or ddark||

[near grove]

Currently trying to beat ||Lost Kin on radiant||, can consistently reach phase two but are swarmed by both the boss and the bubbles shortly afterwards. Someone recommended using ||defender's crest to pop the bubbles|| but I've found this inconsistent. Any tips would be helpful, currently running ||strength, quickslash, longnail, sharp shadow, shaman stone, and soul eater||.

[ebon copper]

its bad to use ||fury|| if you arent using it for the whole fight

[keen stream]

i wont do that... for now... but i keep it for the last phase cause i cant heal in that phase

[ebon copper]

still, its ||2 notches||

[thick wing]

I mean how it's inconsistent? Don't move too often, because he could spawn a ||bubble|| near where you jump so it's safe not to jump or move much. You hv ||sharp shadow|| so just ||dash|| through him, and on the grand slam spam ||ddark||. What else difficulties you are facing?

[keen stream]

its a gamble

[ebon copper]

from now on i expect you to back me everytime i say ||melody|| is great

[keen stream]

so close once again

[thick wing]

You can do it, just keep the patience.

[keen stream]

i will
-# i'll use it in ||rad absrad||

[ebon copper]

[bleak gale]

use ||baldur|| instead then and heal in climb

[keen stream]

but i cant heal in last phase

and i get hit a lot in that phase

[rain cairn]

||what do you do in the last phase? Pogo or just stay on the platforms?||

[keen stream]

do everything i could to hit her while barely alive

im this close 🤏 to beating ||asc absrad||, but also this close 🤏 to failing my entrance exam... its a gamble

[rain cairn]

||I find that it helps to just keep pogoing off of her head, if the orbs get out of the screen then tehy vanish, and your wings and dash are enough to go between the platforms||

[keen stream]

im unlucky enough that she'd tp on both end most of the time

[rain cairn]

I think the world might just be against you, im trying to beat ||radiant absrad, and i always die on the climb phase for the stupidest reasons||

[ebon copper]

omg, i finally got him

took like 40 mins

[trim hawk]

am I crazy or does ||crystal guardian's laser last just a smidge longer than the enraged version, I keep getting barely hit by it when I do a jump over||

[ebon copper]

idk, but it would make sense, as the boss is designed to be more fast paced

i got ||hegemol||

[trim hawk]

that looks pretty cool

[ebon copper]

its such an amazing mod

[timid horizon]

||Guys how can i get more notches to equip charm||

[near grove]

Thanks for the help, that worked wonders.

[timid horizon]

||is mantis lords a required boss||

[lusty yarrow]

How do I get past the ||dark beacons in fog canyon||? I really need to know to progress further as I've checked everywhere and the last ||dreamer|| is there

[lusty yarrow]

Yes

[lusty yarrow]

Have a look around the forgotten crossroads

[timid horizon]

frek he is sooo hard

i mean like difficult

[lusty yarrow]

Heh, he's one of the easier bosses. How many attempts so far? Also ||mantis lords is only required later into the game but still an early game boss||

[timid horizon]

like 10

[near grove]

||Yes, though if you're having difficulties now make sure to return to it later as you'll get a helpful reward and two convenient paths.||

[lusty yarrow]

I'm having flashbacks to my very recent 75 attempts on a certain boss a bit later into he game. Just learn the attacks first.

[near grove]

Out of curiosity, what boss was it?

[lusty yarrow]

||watcher knights||

[crisp isle]

||shade cloak||

[lusty yarrow]

|| give me hints on where to find ||

[crisp isle]

||somewhere in ancient basin locked behind a door||

[timid horizon]

||does the shade (black version of hollow john) get stronger every time? because i swear it took only 2 hits to kill and now it needs 3 ||

[crisp isle]

The more health you have the more health it has

[lusty yarrow]

Do I need a ||simple key|| or smth else

[ebon copper]

its hp is based on your ||nail dmg|| i belive

[timid horizon]

OHH now it makes sense

i did level up health

[crisp isle]

The key to the door is somewhere in ||kingdoms edge||

[ebon copper]

ah, yeah masks can increase its hp too

[twilit heath]

I didnt take the ||arcane egg|| before the ||lifeblood core charm|| 😭

its irretrievable now isnt it...

also can someone recommend me charms for the ||path of pain||

[wary gust]

||I used hiveblood, grubsong, grubberflys elegy, and long nail||

||but honestly charms won’t affect path of pain much because of the infinite soul totems, and also the fact that it’s entirely platforming||

[twilit heath]

wdym by ||infinite soul totems||??

[wary gust]

There are ||infinite soul totems||

Like the ones you hit and you get soul

[twilit heath]

oh

[thick wing]

You're welcome

[twilit heath]

whats this here

I feel like it might be the route to that second switch I forgot abt but I wanna check to be sure

[stoic cedar]

||this is to prevent u from redoing platforming sections that uve already done.||

[twilit gale]

Any tips for ||sly?||

[stoic cedar]

||dont try to get greedy for hits, try to figure out when u can get in safe hits and when u have to focus on dodging. most of the time the safe opportunities to hit sly is right after he finishes an attack, u can get in two or so nail swings pretty safely before he starts his next attack. so the overall flow of the fight should be: he attacks, u dodge, he finishes the attack, u go in for a couple hits, he starts the next attack, and repeat||

[shut bear]

I have to go at ||City of Tears after Mantis Lords?|| (i kinda forgot kuz im replaying)

[twilit gale]

The game is non linear but yes this is a good place to go

[thick monolith]

Hey guys

Does anybody play In mobile?

[lusty yarrow]

How do I get up this ledge? Context in spoilers. || I need to get to a new area and I believe it is this way, Ive killed two dreamers and I need to killt he 3rd. How do I get up this ledge so I can progress?||

[shut bear]

huh

[lusty yarrow]

That's normal, ya need to find a new way out. It shouldn't be too hard

[livid shoal]

You don't need that to progress to the last ||Dreamer||

[lusty yarrow]

Also SPOILER MARK YOUR INAGES

[livid shoal]

It is bro

Reload discord

[thick monolith]

||explore the city of tears||

[shut bear]

i saw ur first message

well okay

[lusty yarrow]

Well you need to get through the ||dark fountain barrier things|| to get to them and I dunno how

[thick monolith]

Ok well I also need help

[stoic cedar]

||that way is a new area except this isnt the way to get to it since that can only be cut from the other side. ull have to find another way||

[livid shoal]

How many times have you seen ||Hornet||

[thick monolith]

How to use ||nail art || in mobile !!!

[livid shoal]

Probably hold attack

[lusty yarrow]

Once, ||and I need to fight her again (I think, journal mentions something about that)||

[thick monolith]

No I mean I also know this but while moving!

[livid shoal]

||Can't get through the Barriers until you find her again||

[livid shoal]

...Move..?

I'm not a pirate so idk

[lusty yarrow]

||Well I need help finding her again as I'm looking everywhere for progression||

[thick monolith]

I have to hold the attack button while dodging thier a text

*attack

[stoic cedar]

use more fingers? not a mobile player but thats the intuitive answer

[thick monolith]

You mean I have to literally try four fingers

[livid shoal]

In ashy lands far from the kingdom, what you seek awaits you there.

-# first time making a riddle is it good?

[lusty yarrow]

Kinda yeah but all the routes I can see to a possible new area are cut off due to ||DARK BEACON THINGYS||

[livid shoal]

Incorrect

[thick monolith]

I am doing Fools one

[livid shoal]

Good luck

[lusty yarrow]

Wait, should I check the || howling cliffs||?

[thick monolith]

But I think I need the nail polish art

[livid shoal]

Is that place ashy

[thick monolith]

No

That's edge

[livid shoal]

Dude I know

[thick monolith]

Oh

My bad 😬

[livid shoal]

Look at my percentage man

[thick monolith]

Any tips to complete the conqueror

[zinc verge]

just proceed like usual
you will find her at some point really
explore everything you can

[thick monolith]

Hey miss 109

[twilit heath]

ohhh ok thx

[zinc verge]

where do you usually die?

[zinc verge]

get those last 3 percentages then

[livid shoal]

I don't wanna do the ||Pantheons|| man

[lusty yarrow]

I really need help figuring out where the new area is

[zinc verge]

show me your map

[zinc verge]

umm they aren't that bad
||P2|| is a joke
||P3|| can be challenging but again
just beat that specific boss which you are struggling on on ||ascended/radiant||
the only hard things about ||P4|| is the final boss
its recommended to do ||P5||

[lusty yarrow]

I know about the ||fog area|| but there are too many ||dark fountains|| and you can't get anywhere.

[zinc verge]

show your map for ||deepnest and city of tears||

[livid shoal]

||P3|| fucking sucks

Damn you ||Uumuu||

[zinc verge]

abuse ||dream wielder||

[lusty yarrow]

K

[livid shoal]

Aw man I have to change my ||charms||

[zinc verge]

then like,
find a good opening to hit the ||oomas|| into ||uumuu||
then you spam ||spells|| until it becomes invulnerable again
make sure to avoid the attacks though
take your time

[livid shoal]

||Is NKG in P3 or is it TMG?||

[zinc verge]

Umm no
He appears in ||P5||

[livid shoal]

||I'm still bad at TMG, pufferfish is the only attack I'm good at ||

||Troupe Master Grimm||

[zinc verge]

He isn't hard once you realize his pattern.
Here's how to dodge all his attacks.
||Uppercut: dash away and then get 2 nail hits in
Then find an opening to avoid the flames.
Fire bats: Jump, dash, wait till he releases all his bats and then get 3 nail hits in.
Dash: Just pogo him.
Cloak spikes: Find an opening and then you can get a free heal in, you can also shade soul here.
Pufferfish: Jump over the fireball on the ground really, don't jump when you don't have to||

[livid shoal]

||Cloak Spikes?||

-# sorry haven't played in a while

[zinc verge]

umm an attack where he creates tall spikes from his cloak all over the arena

[livid shoal]

Ah yes

I remember

[lusty yarrow]

...

[zinc verge]

oh sorry

[lusty yarrow]

It's ok

[zinc verge]

Go there

[lusty yarrow]

K

[thick wing]

use ||nail arts||, they make the entire ||trial|| way easier

specifically ||great and cyclone slashes respectively|| with ||nailmaster's glory|| (a charm)

[lusty yarrow]

Now what?

[robust linden]

I used a ||spell|| build with ||nail 1|| ,||d dark with shade souls, spell twister and shamans|| made me do it pretty easily

[twilit gale]

||Spell twister or soul catcher for radiant||

[trim hawk]

||twister is strictly better if you aren't healing||

[twilit gale]

||Alr ty||

Oop

That isn't a spoiler

||I'm getting scarily close to Pv radiant and nkg radiant||

[robust linden]

||twister||

[fickle jasper]

day 2 of trying to beat ||NKG||

[livid shoal]

Break a leg

[trim hawk]

owie

[livid shoal]

[fickle jasper]

oh

it was easy

[livid shoal]

You've got to be fucking with me

[fickle jasper]

wdym

[livid shoal]

||NKG|| is fucking hell

[fickle jasper]

yeah, but if you learn his attacks it's easy

[livid shoal]

I'm not good at dancing bro

[tepid meadow]

seeing how you have 109% it means you did ||atleast 2 pantheons||

[tepid meadow]

BRO HE Is so fun

and

easy

once you get his patterns

[livid shoal]

[fickle jasper]

fr

[livid shoal]

I'd rather learn Eigong's

[tepid meadow]

i heard some ppl comparing true eigong's difficulty with ||absrad||

is she that difficult

i just killed ji so idk

[livid shoal]

Prime Eigong?

Harder

[tepid meadow]

is it a mod

or in game content

[livid shoal]

Dunno

Google exists mate

[tepid meadow]

prime eigong is a mod

so if we are comparing mods

[livid shoal]

Lame

[tepid meadow]

wdym lame

[livid shoal]

I can't do Prime Eigong

||GPZ|| is easy

||NKG|| is not

[tepid meadow]

||also nkg is not as difficult as you think||
only took me 24 tries to defeat him
after like 24 more tries i defeat him hitless 4/5 times

[livid shoal]

That's you

[trim hawk]

they're hard to compare

[livid shoal]

Not me

[trim hawk]

||NKG|| demands a lot more reaction speed

[tepid meadow]

for starters yes

but you can predict his attacks

easily

[livid shoal]

You reach into the code and connect yourself to it, thus, removing RNG

[tepid meadow]

if he stands in air, he is going to do the ||flame pillars|| if is more high in air he is going to come at you so just jump and hit down and then ||dash||
if he stands on the ground ||he is going to send bats at you|| if he stands on ground but in a weird pose he is going to slash you

[livid shoal]

Heh, nice

[trim hawk]

I just group it as air and ground

[tepid meadow]

the only attack that i consider rng is

the spike attack

[trim hawk]

barely

that one is just reactoin

[tepid meadow]

so yea

[livid shoal]

That's called, reacting to information

[tepid meadow]

||nkg|| is not rng

[trim hawk]

well all bosses are rng

[tepid meadow]

this makes it alot easier

[trim hawk]

they choose different moves each time

[tepid meadow]

if you know whats coming

you learn it as you fight him many times

[trim hawk]

even the traditionally rng bosses you can generally learn

[tepid meadow]

the only rng boss id say is ||markoth|| mf should die

[livid shoal]

He has

Like

3 attacks

[trim hawk]

I'm sure there's a strategy to it

there's the attack of walk into the player

hardest attacks in hollow knight

classic ||GPZ and TL walk forward attack||

[tepid meadow]

his flight doesnt follow any pattern, neither does the nails he throws at you, they start in any direction, their way of coming is same tho but its the starting that is rng with the nails
his flight is rng as he flies anywhere he likes

[livid shoal]

||Traitor Lord|| bromio

[tepid meadow]

wait

when the heck ||tl|| walks into player

what

[trim hawk]

rarely

sometimes just decides to walk forwards

you can definitely play around it

[inner hound]

his walking attack is the most threatening of them all in ||radiant||

[fickle jasper]

I hate him

why did he even eat them

[livid shoal]

Metamorphosis

[trim hawk]

||assumedly he explodes like gruz mother||

[tepid meadow]

he ate them

dw

he will poop them out

soon

you will see

[fluid garden]

any tips for ||pure vessel?||

[fickle jasper]

fr?

[tepid meadow]

yes, he will poop them out, but it will be poop not the ||grubs||

[livid shoal]

Uh, left bumper to parry

[fickle jasper]

bruh

I feel vad for them😔

[livid shoal]

How it feels to spread misinformation and lies

[trim hawk]

I respond to all his attacks with a jump

[livid shoal]

Oh wait it's HK not Nine Sols

[trim hawk]

that prepares you for the ||void tendril|| attack easier

[fluid garden]

ah ill try that

[trim hawk]

I also pogo over so he goes under me

and ||shade dash through the dagger attack||

[fluid garden]

alr

thanks

[tepid meadow]

|| jump, and down attack atleast 2 times when he does his forward 3 attacks, or you can dash through him if you have trouble parrying that attack, dash through the all direction spike attack and hit, jump and pogo when he dashes at you like hornet, when he brings out the spikes from ground, you can either dash away and wait or pogo once and do a ddark, when he does the white blast circle, you can go away and do shade souls or ddark and keep hitting and end with a shriek, for his void tendrils attack, double jump and pogo 2 times and ddark, practice will make you perfect, you gotta be fast to react to his attacks
recommend charms : strength, shaman, quick slash/mark of pride, soulcatcher/sharp shadow ||you can also watch pv guide on yt||

tf

why it didnt spoiler tag it

and why it didnt remove it

BRUH WHAT

i tried spoilering it again

doesnt work

[fluid garden]

most of it is spoiled

[trim hawk]

if you're very gamer you can parry just about every attack

[tepid meadow]

||https://youtu.be/QuNjs4bMO9I?si=6RmpVtKeDoA_AKTB||like this

[fickle jasper]

last ||2 pantheons to get 112%!!||

[bleak gale]

@teal lynx reference

[teal lynx]

[teal lynx]

Pretty true

[drifting vigil]

I’m trying to start speedrunning the game, however I can’t swing my nail on 1.2.2.1 help 😭

[boreal spade]

#1057825333841240104

[snow steppe]

press x

[drifting vigil]

I’m on mouse and keyboard

[snow steppe]

then the button what you swing with

[drifting vigil]

And I know how to swing my nail

[acoustic sigil]

You need the program blue.exe, see the speedrun server

[drifting vigil]

It doesn’t work until I remap it

[boreal spade]

Just check keybinds

[boreal spade]

Keybinds

[snow steppe]

ketponds

[acoustic sigil]

Mouse doesn't work on 1.2.2.1 without that

[drifting vigil]

Aight thx

[boreal spade]

I woke up at 5:51 am it’s 5:53 am leave me alone 😭

[acoustic sigil]

Speedrunning server is in #speedrunning pins

[snow steppe]

oh

wake up and immediately go on || #hk-help || 🔥

[boreal spade]

I like the chat

[whole prairie]

||can someone give me some tips on how to beat soul master||

[livid shoal]

With what

[trim hawk]

if they need help they'll say regardless

[livid shoal]

Oh I'm blind

And it's 4:19 AM

[stoic cedar]

why dont u literally read the msg one above ur msg; seems like someone is asking about ||soul master||. and instead of asking if anyone wants help, just respond to people whenever they ask for help.

[boreal spade]

The boss is easy?

It’s the one that gives || dive || right

[boreal spade]

Show your || charms ||

You are the worst helper

[trim hawk]

how do I deal with ||absrad spawning orbs inside me||?

||or even just really close to me||

[boreal spade]

I used || dream shield || for || Hornet 2 || and || broken vessel || because I thought it looked good

[trim hawk]

guess gotta just keep my eyes peeled for particle effects

don't have that and its ass

I hate luck

[boreal spade]

@whole prairie

[terse kernel]

Only good for some things

[boreal spade]

The sound it makes is annoying af

[terse kernel]

I used to defeat || radiant obblobles||

[trim hawk]

its really good ||when markoth uses it||

[terse kernel]

It’s trash when YOU use it

[boreal spade]

|| markoth || ain’t that hard

[trim hawk]

mainly just ||radkoth||

[boreal spade]

Use nail or ||spell||

They both do damage

just don’t get hit

[trim hawk]

jump over all of his attacks

not just that

don't have your hitbox overlap with the enemy attack hitboxes

[terse kernel]

|| shadow dash before he dashes or tries to combo you use spells when hhe jumps at you try to time it or when u can’t do that use ddark for iv frames when he performs the focus attack use ddark near him when he is about to do it so you won’t get hit and you can damage him for void tendrils jjsy jump at hik pogo and when he is about to finsih use ddark simple||

Or just parry his combo attack

Good

Now do || radiant||

[trim hawk]

its the same thing

[boreal spade]

[terse kernel]

I mwan he does get more health

[trim hawk]

because you shouldn't be getting hit

that's the game telling you that

[terse kernel]

Pfft weak

|| wait till he one shots you||

|| pv nkg and radiance all on ascended deal 2x damage so they deal 4 normal bosses deal 2||

Ye

Probably the secoond boss thag deals the most damage is || zote if we are counting all radiant bosses||

👍

[deft glade]

||D-dark||

[trim hawk]

was really just a one off rarity it seems

second phase though is wrecking me pretty hard

gonna try more tomorrow I'm exhausted

[deft glade]

Second phase as in ||floor spikes|| or ||no floor||?

[trim hawk]

||no floor||

||lucked out an attuned clear and trying ascended rn||

[keen stream]

i have a high chance of defeating ||absrad||.... but also ||a high chance of failing to get admitted to college||... but its still a gamble

anyways, yall have any recordings of how to deal ||absrad|| on her last phase?

[deft glade]

Tips: ||stay on the middle platform, don't chase her, D-dark is great for dodging the face lasers, face spikes, and homing orbs, and stay patient||

[trim hawk]

definitely noticed to not chase

[deft glade]

||Rad AbsRad?||

[trim hawk]

though sometimes I'm caught with my pants down ||having no soul when she spawns in my face||

[keen stream]

yeh, why not

im planning to do it hitless anyway

also, do note that she hates me so much that she wont teleport in the middle

[deft glade]

||Don't have any recording, but you could pogo her (last phase, yeah?) because it makes dodging easier||

[keen stream]

so any strat that would work if she only tp to both end

[deft glade]

||Move back and forth while Nail slashing up for that, depending on the attack||

[keen stream]

yeh, but the problem is, she never teleports to the middle

[terse kernel]

Patencie is the key to beating this boss

[keen stream]

[trim hawk]

||my instinct is to just run away in case I get face laser/needle'd||

[deft glade]

||This is the LAST phase or the no floor phase?||

[keen stream]

i only have patience for the ||platform phase||

[terse kernel]

If I didn’t have patencie I would probably quit

[keen stream]

last, very last

she hates me

she wont stay in the middle for even 2s

[deft glade]

||Jump onto her, pogo her, and dash to follow her around||

[stoic cedar]

||if she spawns right on top of u in platform phase, u should quickly do 3 nail hits (nail turnarounds help here to quickly get the three hits in) and immediately ddark||

[trim hawk]

hmm alr

[terse kernel]

Jjsy what

Jjsy wait

[keen stream]

she hates me istg

if she'd tp in the middle, it wont even last for 2s

[deft glade]

||You could also Abyss Shriek when she gets close(ish), but that's dangerous||

[keen stream]

we hate each other, but i just hate her more

[keen stream]

i tried that but it didnt work well
im not used to the timing

[terse kernel]

Well just don’t follow her since you’ll get comboed

[deft glade]

||Oh, also, regarding your deleted message. Dash mostly covers the distance, it just needs a little wing jump at the end||

[keen stream]

should i dip down to where the balls are coming from? to lure it into the platform

[keen stream]

how about this one?
if I'd stay on one platform

[terse kernel]

Sometimes the balls go trough the platforms

[keen stream]

thats ass

[deft glade]

Yeah

[keen stream]

so its only doable if the ball came from the other side?

[terse kernel]

I guess

I don’t know how to explain it

You can || shadow dash trough one but you can risk getting hit by another one||

Try to bait them

Like when ur abt to get hit jump

So they land on a platform

[deft glade]

Circle jump, basically

[keen stream]

so its either jumping or touhou project the whole shit?

[terse kernel]

Also

[keen stream]

should i stand on the edge of the platform?

[terse kernel]

You can use || ddark for iv frames|| or if ur drastic jump into the void to take one less dmg

[terse kernel]

You can risk falling into the void

But sometimes ur

Ye

[keen stream]

aight

I'll try allat later

[terse kernel]

Oke

Good luck

[trim hawk]

seems to just happen if on the first like half second

my general strategy is ||walking off the ledge in the direction the orbs come from and double jumping back and it kinda works?||

I need to rest my hands for today though to really get a better grasp

[halcyon girder]

We need to clear the || pantheon for 112% ? ||

[deft glade]

||P1, P2, P3, and P4||

[halcyon girder]

Ok tks

[lime spruce]

hello

[alpine comet]

Yo

[lime spruce]

Do you have any advice for the ||p4||

[gray sandal]

|| wait p5 doesn’t count to 112%||

[deft glade]

No, it does not

[lime spruce]

no

[gray sandal]

Huh

Ok

[alpine comet]

which part are you struggling on?

[alpine comet]

yeah it only gives an achivement

[deft glade]

||Practice in the Hall of Gods and get 8 Bindings from previous Pantheons||

[lime spruce]

the beginning

[deft glade]

Which boss specifically?

[lime spruce]

its done

||lost kin||

[alpine comet]

bro what

[lime spruce]

what ''what''

[alpine comet]

so like are you low on health from the previous fight ?

[alpine comet]

|| lost kin aint that bad you can easily get double fireball hits on him ( with shaman stone equiped) and use ddark if the small minions get to close ||

[lime spruce]

ok

[alpine comet]

generally just try to close the distance between you two

[shrewd basin]

How many hits to stagger ||failed champion radiant pure nail unbreakable strength||

[trim hawk]

||FC stagger is actually HP based pretty sure||

||so it'll vary depending on usage of narts or spells||

[lime spruce]

thanks

[shrewd basin]

I did ||rad traitor lord||

[trim hawk]

impossible boss walk in my face

[shrewd basin]

What boss

[trim hawk]

||traitor lord rarely just walks into your face||

[muted stone]

whats the best way to get geo

[shrewd basin]

||Colo||

[trim hawk]

||colo trial 2 specifically is fastest||

||there are other easier ways but generally slower and also more mind numbing||

||coloseum of fools||

[muted stone]

ahh oke thanks

[spice arrow]

guys help me ||im tryna decide whether i should use shaman or sharp shadow for p5 cuz like i barely use spells but then again sharp shadow is good but might throw me off sometimes cuz of the longer dash so idk also pls no bias for shaman ;-;||

[tribal sandal]

||daf shaman||

try to use more ||spells|| too

just curious whats your full build

[spice arrow]

but i barely use ||spells|| im too used to the ||nail|| against almost every boss

thats why im considering not using it

[tribal sandal]

||d dark doesnmt have to be used as a spell||

[spice arrow]

||quick slash heart strength and if sharp shadow ill use something like grubsong or nailmasters glory||

[tribal sandal]

when your in an unavoidable situation you can ||d dark|| and do damage while getting i fmes

[spice arrow]

yeah but i always get the timing wrong

[tribal sandal]

that was basically mybuild

[tribal sandal]

wdym

i mean you can use ||mop||

[spice arrow]

no thanks

[spice arrow]

for ||ddark|| i get hit anyways cuz i use it too late

[atomic basin]

Has someone done ||Oblobbles radiant|| and got some useful tips or strategies?

[onyx acorn]

They are mostly a luck based boss, I focused my attention on the projectiles while killing one at a time

[trim hawk]

be patient

greed will kill

||try to bunch them up with fireballs, plus does good damage especially when you get doubles||

[stoic cedar]

from eloki's written ||radhog|| guide

||Charm Build: Nailmaster’s Glory, Shaman Stone, Spell Twister, Heavy Blow, Soul Catcher, Soul Eater.

This build is obviously nail art focused. If you’re using default controls on a controller, nail arts may be difficult to use, in which case you might want to swap to another. If you’re using the nail art build, the only attacks you should be using are nail arts and Shade Soul.

This fight is way less luck based than it seems at first glance.

The oblobbles will fly around the arena diagonally, starting towards a random direction. They will change direction when hitting a wall, in which case they will bounce off the wall; or if you hit them from the opposite direction that they’re headed, in which case they will turn around and start heading the direction they were hit from.

They will sometimes desync from turning around horizontally, be careful of this.

They actually have a consistent attack pattern, shooting 4 projectiles at once. Think of it as them shooting adjacently, but the adjacent pattern rotates. Or that they shoot on the ends of an addition sign, but the addition sign rotates slightly as they shoot. This means that none of the individual Oblobbles will shoot in the same exact spot twice in a row. Be mindful of where the projectiles land on the ground, then try to follow those spots.

Your goal at the start of the fight should be to get on one side of both of the oblobbles. This makes it a lot easier to dodge their attacks, and lets you Shade Soul both of them with one Shade Soul if they line up well. Heavy Blow has a special use case here, making sure that they dont charge towards you too fast and overwhelm you from both sides. If you’re not using a nail art build, just go for multiple nail hits each cycle.

Basically, get them on one side of you, then dodge the projectiles, attack with shade soul and nail arts / multiple nail hits, repeat.||

[empty cliff]

why do you not get that when you defeat the || Radiance ||

[trim hawk]

are you still in the credits?

[empty cliff]

no

[trim hawk]

hmm should be granted at the end of the credits

[dusky sonnet]

I have the same problem couldn't figure it out even tho I best it with 108%

And waited for the credits to finish

[atomic basin]

aight I will try that thanks

[tribal sandal]

||to get the dream no more ending you have to beat p5||

[atomic basin]

And this too thank you so much 🙂

[tribal sandal]

i think

[trim hawk]

||being between them is very dangerous so try to get out of such situation||

[tribal sandal]

oh shit

im stupid

thats ||embrace the void||

[trim hawk]

as tempting as it may be ||do not shriek because they just sometimes bounce into your face for some reason||

[hybrid plinth]

I see people with ||lifeblood cocoons|| in their ||pantheon hot spring rooms||, are those there by default, or do you need to unlock them?

[atomic basin]

Yeah already happened to me many times. I kept spamming it at the beginning out of habit from ||colo||

[hybrid plinth]

The guide I was watching said you might not have that

[trim hawk]

||do bindings to unlock them||

[hybrid plinth]

That's what I feared

[trim hawk]

||8, 12, 16 bindings for 3, 4, 5 masks||

||only have to do one at a time||

[hybrid plinth]

Huh, guess I could just use the ||first two pantheons|| to get what I need

[trim hawk]

||the only reward for doing all bindings is the circles on the pantheon door is shiny||

[atomic basin]

I got it thank you all so much 🙏🏼😭

[hushed egret]

||doing all the bindings and unlock the door gives you life blood in pantheon 5||

[trim hawk]

||oh I just assumed it was always in p5 because I had all by the time I tried||

[hushed egret]

Hahaha yeah

||i haven't done any bindings myself||

[trim hawk]

||they're not that bad if you just tackle one at a time and maybe adjust your build/playstyle||

||like spell build during nail binding though just slapping on strength is also valid||

[hushed egret]

I reach ||NKG|| in ||PATHEON 5|| without ||lifeblood|| and only under 30 attempts

[trim hawk]

||honestly the lifeblood is just a convenience for going fast||

[sly rune]

Ok, I need to check how that bot moderates images.

[trim hawk]

||lets you facetank spell spam easier||

[sly rune]

GGG.

LMAOOO.

[trim hawk]

it just kills all images or videos

[hushed egret]

Also did it live it was amazing passing through ||Markoth|| i also did not save ||Zote|| for obvious reasons

[tepid meadow]

30 attempts 💀 thats not a flex

[distant lance]

Iirc I think I got past ||NKG|| on my first attempt at ||Pantheon 5||

[tepid meadow]

it took me 6 tries to finish ||pantheon 5|| and thats avg btw

[hushed egret]

Mobile

[trim hawk]

||I choked pretty hard on NKG first run and lost there||

[tepid meadow]

ohh, then its understandable

[distant lance]

Then I either immediately died to ||pure vessel|| or immediately died to ||Absolute Radiance||

[hushed egret]

I also haven't beat ||NKG|| once in my life

So thats how i lose my run XD

[hushed egret]

I put all my skill points on ||sisters in battle||

[trim hawk]

||SoB are so fun||

[hushed egret]

Took me 7 attempts

[trim hawk]

took me a bit longer from just kinda zoning out the entire session

part of that is a bit of greed using ||spells||

[crisp isle]

How do people play hk on Mobile looks very hard

[trim hawk]

eventually settled on just ||shriek when they hug the wall||

[hushed egret]

Its my favorite boss

[trim hawk]

||also apparently they can very rarely cling onto the same wall?||

[hushed egret]

I use ||DDive and AShriek|| on ||SoB||

[hushed egret]

Its actually really not that hard

[hushed egret]

Also tried ||fury|| cuz why not

[crisp isle]

When is there a time to use ||Ashriek||

[hushed egret]

When a ||mantis|| is clinging on the wall

[trim hawk]

||have to make sure to move out of the way of the one that dives in time||

||and need to shriek not too late or you just get impaled during the shriek||

[hushed egret]

Also is 6:21 minutes ||Pantheon 1|| impressive?

[stoic cedar]

||this is usually triggered if u r over the spikes or are climbing one of the walls. u wont really see this if u r positioned normally||

[trim hawk]

right must have just momentarily been pushed off

[trim hawk]

wr is 2:40 so take that as you will

another reference I think my first run was around 10 min ish

[hushed egret]

Mine was 9min

[trim hawk]

holy audio quality

[hushed egret]

I forgot to turn off my mic LMFAO

[hushed egret]

But i can do this better now i evem manage to heal

[shrewd basin]

||Radiant Gruz Mother||

[thick wing]

Hello can someone help me with a mod skin please

[drowsy yarrow]

More ||oblobble|| tips with a video demonstration: ||#hk-help message||

[keen stream]

I've acquired enough money to buy silksong

[acoustic sigil]

Only step remaining is silksong releasing

[trim hawk]

how do you know

[zinc verge]

so the only fight where ||cyclone slash|| is meta

[zinc verge]

[trim hawk]

for all we know the game will cost $300

AUD, converting to around $5 usd

[drowsy yarrow]

It has the best dps of ||narts||, but if you don't have to wait for the boss then it's usually better to ||quick slash||.

[alpine comet]

spin to win best strat

[trim hawk]

||pretty good for false knight too||

[tepid meadow]

who is ||sob||

oh nvm

got it

what do you mean by 2% milk

[trim hawk]

2% fat content assumedly

some places in the world use fat percentage

2% being reduced

[tepid meadow]

fat percentage in the body ?

is referred as

[trim hawk]

in the milk

[tepid meadow]

% milk

w

wt/

[spice arrow]

is it a bad idea to use ||sharp shadow|| against ||absrad||

[tepid meadow]

i thought 2% milk meant she drank 2% milk by weight of her body mass

😭

i have been doing alot of chemistry lately

[tepid meadow]

yes

i mean its not bad

but

there are better options

[trim hawk]

won't really do much

[spice arrow]

such as?

[trim hawk]

||nail or spell upgrades can't go wrong||

[spice arrow]

whatever

[trim hawk]

||strength, quick nail, shaman, twister|| all good

those already just round out the build

[tepid meadow]

||soul catcher > spell twister||

[ebon copper]

optimally woud wanna use: ||spell twister if you have 2 notches||

[spice arrow]

welp

[tepid meadow]

||soul catcher better||

you want to know why ?

i'll tell

[spice arrow]

||i took the lifeblood so i cant swap anymore without losing it||

[ebon copper]

if you are dying that is

[trim hawk]

for here I can see the argument for both

because the boss is indeed very hard

[tepid meadow]

not really

i'll explain

[ebon copper]

yes really

[trim hawk]

well uh too late lol

[tepid meadow]

just hear the explanation

[ebon copper]

sure

[spice arrow]

well then

wish me luck ig

im going in

[ebon copper]

good luck!

[alpine comet]

omg yes !!!!!

[trim hawk]

this is one of the best places to use ||heavy blow||

[alpine comet]

use ||sharp shadow||

best charm

[trim hawk]

||two empty slots is better than two detrimental slots||

[zinc verge]

if you are skilled at the game
||spell twister|| better
if you aren't
||soul catcher|| better

because you wouldn't need to heal much if you are skilled

[spice arrow]

do i heal back to full after ||pv||?

[ebon copper]

maybe he will cook, who knows?

[ebon copper]

yes

[spice arrow]

like with ||thk||

[alpine comet]

yeah || absrad is going to get knocked out of the screen with heavy blow||

[tepid meadow]

||spell twister reduces the soul amount usage for casting spells, with the amount of soul you get from 4-5 hits you can cast 2 spells instead of 2||
||soul catcher increases the amount of soul you recieve, in 4-5 hits you get enough soul to cast 2 spells||
||they are pretty similar but soul catcher giving extra soul allows you to use that soul for healing purposes too, now ofc spell twister saves some soul and you can use that for healing as well and if found right time you can do 4 shrieks within few seconds to deal massive damage but absrad doesnt stay at a place for long enough to do 4 shrieks continously except for her sword rain phase just before 2nd phase||
||now that phase is super easy, instead of wasting your soul there you can get more soul there by hitting for healing before 2nd phase or just to use it for spells in 2nd phase||

[spice arrow]

good

aight

time for ||absrad||

will this be the end

[alpine comet]

gl

[tepid meadow]

||soul catcher gives soul not to heal only, that soul can be used to caste spells too, in 4-5 hits the amount of soul you get with soul catcher will allow you to caste 2 spells while without soul catcher but with spell twister you will caste 2 spells in 4-5 hits too||

so just having extra ||soul|| makse sense

unless

you want to spam 4 ||spells in a row||

which against ||absrad|| isnt a good idea

[spice arrow]

well guess what

i dont even use ||spells|| and i dont even have ||shaman stone equipped|| 🤣

[ebon copper]

||the reason why twister is better in absrad isnt just that it gives you more casts, its that in that fight you have a limited amount of soul you can use at ome poins, and having your existing soul meter mean more is much better than filling it up quicker||

[drowsy yarrow]

a lot of people have percents in their name so I wanted to be cool like them

[zinc verge]

then use it more
||spells|| are absolute meta in this game

[spice arrow]

anyways imma fight ||absrad|| now

[ebon copper]

the only reason ||catcher|| should be used is for heal safety

[tepid meadow]

yea but what does "2% milk" even mean, i thought it was mass percentage of milk/mass percentage of your body * 100 ( i have been doing chem alot lately ) 😭

[alpine comet]

you are cooked

[trim hawk]

||spells also let you speedrun the rest of PoH to waste less time||

[zinc verge]

i use a combination of ||nail and spells|| depending on the situation like every other player

[trim hawk]

some american thing to use percentages I think

[tepid meadow]

||you wont have limited amount of soul if you got soul catcher, allowing you to use spells|| so this msg doesnt prove anything

[trim hawk]

||I don't see the soul meter ever coming close to being filled||

[tepid meadow]

you should, ||specially ddark and abyss shriek||

||soul catcher is slightly better than spell twister||

[ebon copper]

||what are you on, what im saying, is that going into platforms you arent guaranteed to tave a full soul meter at all times, meaning that twister is just more resourceful||

[tepid meadow]

i will say it again

[ebon copper]

you are objectively wrong

[tepid meadow]

you will have ||soul if you got soul catcher||

and

[ebon copper]

like its crazy how confident you are in being wrong

[tepid meadow]

wdym being wrong ?

[trim hawk]

neither are strictly objectively better

[tepid meadow]

im right

[spice arrow]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

IT IS FINALLY OVER

[tepid meadow]

||in p5 or hall of gods||

[ebon copper]

endgame ||twister|| is objectively better

[neat karma]

||catcher is good if you need to get soul, mainly healing. twister is good if you need to use soul aka no problem in getting it, mainly spells||

[trim hawk]

||twister is better for spell usage, catcher is better for healing||

[ebon copper]

since its just more dps

[trim hawk]

ofc by then you just don't get hit

[neat karma]

untrue both depend

[tepid meadow]

arent we talking about which is better against ||absrad||

[drowsy yarrow]

Yeah, that's just the percentage by mass of fat in the milk bought at grocery stores. I typically see fat free, 1%, 2%, or whole milk (about 3.5%)

[neat karma]

there are ||fights which you need more soul as you cannot get that many||

[tepid meadow]

so i was kinda right

[trim hawk]

it depends tbh for ||absrad|| if you want to heal that much or just go full offense

[ebon copper]

i mean, fair, but its not like i havent said it before that its better if you are getting hit

[hollow prawn]

omg its ismoil

[ebon copper]

i just gradually got carried away a bit ig

[neat karma]

it can also ||work for spells if youre not being too agressive, specially with rad||

[tepid meadow]

||even if you want to go full offense soul catcher is as good as spell twister cause find me a moment where you get time to shriek her 4 times in a row, except that sword rain phase|| and that too if you get lucky

[hollow prawn]

#hk-hell charm argument lesgo

[neat karma]

oh wait im sorry i forgot was it

[trim hawk]

its definitely not just as good

[neat karma]

shit im so sorry i forgot

[tepid meadow]

explain how

[trim hawk]

but it isn't a completely devastating difference

[tepid meadow]

i literally explained you guys

2 times

[neat karma]

i hope you can forgive me bestie 😔

[trim hawk]

because it is just more efficient

[hollow prawn]

Its no problem! my preferred name is amber but im also fine being called Nix online, it has no relation to my deadname

if thats what you mena

[tepid meadow]

EXPLAIN what do you mean by that

[hollow prawn]

I forgive you bestie <3

[alpine comet]

||soul catcher vs soul twister || argument will never end

[tepid meadow]

THEY work the frikin same against ||absrad|| 😭

[trim hawk]

you said 4-5

that 4-5 is doing heavy lifting

[tepid meadow]

wtf ?

you need

4-5 hits

withotu ||soul catcher, with spell twister|| to use 2 ||spells||

so its the same

[neat karma]

yeah but youre preferred name so id like to use it i had amber in my tongue but i wasnt sure

[tepid meadow]

i already told you

only difference is

you can spam 4

if you got full meter

and

[hollow prawn]

ismoil, i impart knowledge upon thee

[tepid meadow]

against ||absrad||

[hushed egret]

Getting ban is annoying

[tepid meadow]

you dont get time to spam 4 in a row

[hollow prawn]

||never do double core, it fucking sucks||

[tepid meadow]

except for that ||sword rain phase||

[hollow prawn]

thats my knowledge, im out

[trim hawk]

your ||soul|| doesn't reset to 0

[tepid meadow]

@trim hawk DID you even read the frikin msgs 😭

[trim hawk]

yes

[neat karma]

what?

[tepid meadow]

what does this mean

[trim hawk]

||twister|| will save extra swings occassionally

[hushed egret]

Yes i got ban

[tepid meadow]

||p5|| 🗣️

[hushed egret]

Congrats

[acoustic sigil]

And you are aware ban evading is against the rules

[neat karma]

from where and why is it a good idea to go mentioning that around

[ebon copper]

ban evading?

[tepid meadow]

yk what let me do tthe math

and

even if it does save

it will be like

once every 10 ||spells||

imma do the math

wait

[trim hawk]

someone else did it already

I don't fully disagree with you on this though

like I can definitely see good arguments for ||catcher|| for ||absrad||

[tepid meadow]

thats what im saying

we are talking about ||absrad|| since the starting

i NEVEr once mentioned

late game or any other boss

[trim hawk]

but to call it objectively better I cannot go as far

[tepid meadow]

it is ||better against absrad 😭 ||

[spice arrow]

||well i beat absrad with neither so nail on top🤣 ||

[tepid meadow]

and not by much

just slightly

[trim hawk]

for a first clear honestly I would agree it is largely better

[spice arrow]

yall forgetting ||pv right before absrad||

[trim hawk]

no difference for that fight

free fight

[spice arrow]

gotta add that to the argument

[trim hawk]

I don't even use ||spells|| there

[drowsy yarrow]

||If you don't cast spells or just heal a lot, Soul Catcher can be better.||

[tepid meadow]

pls read my msgs

[spice arrow]

for you maybe

[tepid meadow]

||soul catcher allows you to caste spells quickly too||

and about every 10 ||spells, spell twister will give you 1 extra ||

that is barely anything

[ebon copper]

pretty quickly inst the same as as quickly

[trim hawk]

the difference isn't huge

it is there

[tepid meadow]

thanks

[trim hawk]

like it can definitely matter

[neat karma]

why are we fighting over two charms is this even helping anyone or are we just arguing for no reason

[ebon copper]

yeah, but you have no reason to be using the worse dps version, unless you are planning on getting hit

[trim hawk]

I do plan on getting hit as it turns out

I don't think I'm really gonna do ||radabsrad|| before doing another ||p5 attempt||

[ebon copper]

||p5|| is much easier than ||radabsrad|| imo

[trim hawk]

exactly

so like I prob won't comically overpractice for this one

||and also radabsrad would mean I need to do radkoth and I'd rather die||

[alpine comet]

maybe but || p5 would probably require more time sink|| cuz the attempts are long

[ebon copper]

||radabsrad|| took me more time personally

[trim hawk]

well the idea would be to only do attempts when you're prepared

definitely want to feel comfortable on ||ascended absrad|| before doing any more attempts

[ebon copper]

id not say thats necessary

but it def helps if you do do that

[trim hawk]

I have some terrible nerves

[spice arrow]

in conclusion

[trim hawk]

so I really would rather feel comfortable going in

[spice arrow]

use the one you like

end of argument

[alpine comet]

preparation can also count under the time taken to || beat p5 ||

[ebon copper]

i had a 30% wr on ||attuned absrad|| when i did ||p5||

[spice arrow]

wait did the argument already end or what?

[ebon copper]

i got to ||absrad|| around 12 times before getting it

[trim hawk]

||quick focus, deep focus, joni's blessing||

[spice arrow]

i just came in and assumed it was still going ;-;

[trim hawk]

hell why not count the time playing the rest of the game

[alpine comet]

you can

[stone trellis]

||im about to sell all my stuff for geo will i need any of the things im about to sell||

[spice arrow]

well anyways my point still stands for literally any charm so 🤷‍♂️

[trim hawk]

because there's a very strong argument for counting all that time too

[ebon copper]

no, but i would recommend keeping 1 of each

cause why not

[spice arrow]

only sell them if you need the geo

and sell to get exactly how much you need

[stone trellis]

k

[spice arrow]

no point in carrying extras

[trim hawk]

||I completely forgot about them until I couldn't afford the unbreakables||

[drowsy yarrow]

Same. Even then it wasn't enough.

[alpine comet]

Me selling everything for money and then dying twice

[drowsy yarrow]

||But I only had to farm 3k instead of like 10k||

[keen stream]

i'll gamble this shit

[sleek rapids]

I grinded ||radiant absrad|| so much that I started resenting the game and used debug mod, now I feel only guilt and I feel like I need to beat it legitimately so I can leave the game, any tips?

[tepid meadow]

aaah f opened hk after 1.5 week