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I keep bumping into the ||damn sawwww||
||stall with c dash||
I mean after the ||cdash||
Just jump again
||use M wings||
Its not rlly that hard
Ded bug
Hai chat
Hai
||white palace|| is a pain, maybe I should go back to ||Nosk|| lol
It's worth doing
How many benches should I have in the ||White palace|| to be done with it or at least get a map ?
1 or more
3
Oof

I'm on my 2nd one
That snail ain't making no sense
Wait where you right now in ||white palace||
Map? 😭😭
How would ||cornifer get awokend dream nail || 😭
I don't knoww, he's ||Cornifer|| 😭
That's the last bench
How would he NOT get it ?

Good because now I can't even go through sht anymore lol
It's the last area 
Do you have || deep focus + grub song || ?
Yeah
Use it its almost infinte || soul ||
HELL NAW

|| p3 || ??
yes
That was my first attempt and i got that far so i feel very sigma about it ||Grim was EASY||
he was CAKE WALK after ||NKG has been defeated||
Help
Just || dash || between the safe spots
||Pogo off the white thing then get to the saws and poho untill u get to the wall from there there should be a platform to jump on and stay there||
This is the last part

damn ||grey prince zote|| is getting to me 😭
I just go downwards it feels safer
Also what charms should i use for ||post Grimm in P3||?
died too many time to him
What charms should I use for|| the trial of the fool||
||Shaman and unbreakable heart |||because u will take alot of damage
||Sharp shadow nail masters glory quick slash and strenght||
and ||Long nail||
Thanks
I think || unbreakable heart || is good for it
Alr
It doesn't work idk
what ||charms do u have on??||
Okay atleast u don't have ||dash charms||
U can go downwards too
Hold on let me send you a clip on how to do it
Alr I got the clip
@zealous sentinel here

Ur only few jumps away from reaching the end good luck 
Now idk where to go again but I'll struggle a lil more and figure it out maybe
Jumps in which direction 
Lol wait I'll tell
I would hug that wall but I'm scared it'll take me back to where I started
Scary gap
||strength quick slash longnail mark of pride||
Why snail it was only 18 minutes
Lmao
There's an optional area there too if u want try it 
How do I get the second half 
You sure u wana go there it's completely optional?

||go to the first room of the top section then go left and theres a breakable wall||
Yeah, having just one after so much struggling would be a waste
Alr I will send screenshot of it's location then 
My bad mods
I think I'm screwed..
What happened? 
Do. It.
.
Just pain-
Wait use || c dash || you will find an infinte || soul || thingy
Oh it's infinite ?
Yes
Woahhhh
||anyone got tips for absrad 2nd phase/platforms phase?||
Whats your Build?
||strength quick slash longnail mark of pride||
||Stay in the middle. Chasing down abs rad is riskier and leaves you more vulnerable. Let her come to you||
Also I would add ||shaman stone. Spells are very very effective for abs rad||
Alr just sat on || bottom three platforms and when she comes near you spam d dark or spam nail with quick slash ||
||she almost never goes to the platform i'm on||
U just gotta survive longer for her come there
She does. Have patience
@tight fox u can use || unbreakable heart instead of long nail || if u can't survive very long
My setup for her was always ||strength, quick slash, spell twister and shaman stone||
Where's || soul eater || ? 
this isn’t ||radiant||

||when she uses the nail attack it's impossible to dodge if she's on my platform||
Just ||d dark|| fr
Well it is possible but ||ddark gives I frames||
I dont have time
What
You can do it before
||i never know when she's going to do that attack||
Just do || d dark || without jumping
Thats even worse
When her eyes gets wierd she does either || lasers or sword attack ||
That’s mainly why I have ||spell twister|| on. ||There are times where the best option is to just ddark and predict an attack||
Also just use || unbreakable heart || so you can survive longer I swear it's good 
Its not
Fine your choice I wont force you
And imo ||spell twister would help you out a whole lot more than longnail||
True
I used to not be a ||spell|| guy and only stick with the nail, but specifically for ||abs rad, spells|| are so fkin useful
What is the || spirits glade for||?
||30 essence||
And lots of dialogue
At how much || essence || does your || dream nail upgrade||?
It hurts pretty bad 😭
Does anyone know how much damage a || coiled nail does || and how much health the || small bees have||?
How long?
This image brings me pain
I entered last ||colo|| forgetting I was on my ||SS|| save 😭
||Steel. Soul|| sucks 
||i died to a husk guard because i thought i benched but i didn't so i got 1 shot||
I was aiming to get that second ||SS|| achievement but alas 
That sucks
||when i do steel soul attempts before fighting hard bosses i go to my 112% save file and beat the boss on radiant||
Yeah I too did that
But I don’t think I have enough energy to start another ||steel soul|| run for that single achievement
problem is with that, || on steel soul you don't have all the abilites unlike godseeker ||
The run I lost, I had every single thing including ||void heart||, I was just collecting charms and dlc stuff 😭
|| coiled nail does 17 damage and the small bees (called hivelings) have 18 hp||
nahh bro, thats so unlucky 😭
is ||abyss shriek pogo still possible in the latest update||?
You might get an answer to that in #speedrunning
||welp made it to kingdoms edge and I forgot what to do now||
Go to the cold part
Can someone rank all ||warrior dreams|| from easy to hardest
||the ascended arenas with no floor might make markoth and no eyes harder||
this comes from some1 who has done ||radabsrad|| so they might be tougher for new players
no, since every ||pogo like this|| has been patched due to ||them exploiting a bug with hitboxes (thats why epogo doesnt work too on current patch||
How much ||essence does the tree things give you||
||fireball pogo?||
depends, each ||tree gives a different amount of orbs, each orb is worth 1 essence||
i think it has been patched too
it's current patch exclusive
(1.3 and onwards)
lemme test that out
i meant non-speedrunning patch
most speedruns are 1.2.2.1
||epogo is the one with shroom explosive balls right?||
yes, you use it to ||get to mantis village faster||
that one is impossible
it just stands for || explosive pogo||
on current patch it is impossible
now they ||explode as soon as you touch or hit them||
you can ||pogo of off the explosion when you played on e.g. 1.2.2.1||
it is possible though..
*it is much harder
A variation of it is
But it's a different set up
yes
no its literrally impossible
you only use the ||knockback of the explosion||
The main thing being that you can actually ||pogo the sporg
But only as it is about to explode||, which is why it is still possible on cp
||you can't pogo the ball anymore, but you still can the explosion or something like that I'm not an expert||
And you also use the knockback
the other way around
Chat i cleared the|| Spirit's Glade||, How evil am i ? There is no one left, even the guard.
how evil am i?
meanie++
go to #hk-general pls tho
ok
Morality is kinda weird
||Cuz they aren’t really alive, they are like… lingering memories basically put on loop feeling the same thing for ever||
But there was no need for such violence for sure
knockback won't be enough cuz in the ||epogo you pogo twice|| and knockback is equivilant to only 1 pogo
he can still repent by ||getting normal ending||
i needed that sweet, sweet|| essence.||
define ||"normal ending"||
||defeat THK?||
I literally explored every room and don't know what to do, can someone help me without spoiling?
Im not pulling this out of my arse
||1) you can pogo the sporg right before it explodes
2) knockback is enough if you go high enough, which the 1221 setup doesn’t do, because why would it ?||
always check the lil gaps on your map ||specifically left side||
go to the green entrance
Go just under the ||grub room, on the left||
at the edge of the map, it leads you somewhere with many plants and greens
and fight the big guy
||left in that big tall room||
yall he said "help" and not spoil
I don't see a green entrance...
on the left side somewhere
||LEFT||
You mean that room with the dotted lines connected to it? I can't enter it.
it has leaves and such
Anyway if you needed proof
||https://youtu.be/bYsRWyHjcmM?si=yWRn0YRsjcJDiLXX||
noooo
the left bro
Let me go check, I'm not sure I understand what yall are talking about
Under the ||grub room, left and up from ancestral mound||
Ohh I'm dumb
haha
if youre really THAT stuck i can record you on how to get there lmao
there are plenty of ||gruzzflies||
Don't know what those are, and don't want to know either
i think they know where to go now
basically here
Anyway they know where to go now there is no need to give them more ressource 
no, dont go there
Yeah yall should prob stop
Ty everyone
wait ||you got the spell right?||
Yup
he did
HE POSTED A SCREENSHOT OF HIS INVENTORY
Help is never that good when there are 6 peps in help trying to give it 
oh yeh i just saw it
||can ynyone help me with pure vessel in p4? I can get to him relativly consistently, but i keep dying.||
Lmao real
||hall of gods||
focus more on dodging instead of attacking
go to to the wiki page for tips
and just practice the hell out of them
wait that was 3 years ago
First off, make sure to practice them in the ||hall of gods, and not only do p4 attempts, cuz a try every 10 minutes is not good
After you’ve started doing that, it’s a matter of identifying patterns which get you hit, and finding better ways to deal with those||
so its not possible now right?
Hk doesn’t get that many updates lol
it's not possible on current patch*
on earlier patches its possible
1.5 was released like two years ago and changed how like, 2 bosses behave in some edge cases
It is possible on current patch for the love of god
The video is all about that…
*you can still do it with another way
yeh
its not the same
i saw a Fireborn short where he talked about ||the abyss shiek pogo|| and comments were from 1 year ago
read the start of the description 
a platformer game nerfs jumps by 2 units
10 unit jump becomes impossible with a short jump
10 unit jump still possible with a high jump
would you say that the jump is no longer possible??????
no
then why are you saying it now
im saying you dont do the same jump
how do i unlock the ||godhome|| mode
use spoilers please
mb
you unlock it by ||beating the first 3 pantheons||
oh so i gotta grind the game 😭
yes
have you unlocked the ||godhome area|| yet?
yes
its from doing the first 3 not just the 3rd
how do you know about if you hadnt unlocked it yet
ive played before
you havent spoiled yourself, h a v e y o u ?
i hopped onto the game back just to fish some bosses
mb
fight
||does tiso have to die||
for what?
||You can prevent by just not talking to him. He only switches locations after talked to.||
is there any way to open this door
bc i need a faster way to the dream warrior in fungal wastes
fastest way to go to the arena
|| Ive practised in hall of gods a lot, but i cant beat him there ||
What attacks are you getting hit by the most ?
Also generally I would recommend not ||dashing through their triple slash and dash, you can for sure, but I would recommend pogoing, as that leads to more damage, and is safer if they do multiple in a row||
The ||spikes fgrom the ground atack || and the one || where he shoots many spikes from his body ||
For the former there isn’t much to say, ||technically jumping help cuz the spikes are thinner, but you just have to stay calm and pay attention to dodge that one
The later is interesting though, cuz you can and should just be able to always shade cloak through it
I suspect that you dash too soon, which is common cuz the attack first draws the lines that the daggers will take, before the actual daggers come out
So dash later basically ||
Thanks a lot
Any tips for ||traitor lord||? I've been trying it for a while(10-ish attempts). Any charm combos or anything like that will help
||jump to avoid attacks, and downslash during its grounded charge. save shade cloak only for when needed. if youre next to it and it does a jump, then you can heal/use wraiths||
||I shouldn't dash so I have shade cloak available if I were to need it? ||
yep
and also the ||wave attack has a similar animation to the grounded charge so youre likely to get baited and dash into the boss||
||that hasn't happened so far but ill be careful thanks||
||This is the hardest boss so far. around 30 attempts in at this point and still havent made it past a few hits on her.||
||bad build or good build? For the traitor||
Its been like 2 days and i still dont know where to go
I just finished ||crystal peaks||
So you got an ability from it right ?
Yep
whats ur charm setup? i recommend using ||Defender's Crest||, as it can|| kill the ghosts instantly||
Well that ability will let you get some more abilities ||if you go under the city (you found city right ?)||
So go there
Show your inv
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Yeah, you wanna go back to ||city of tears or resting ground|| and from there head down as much as you can
Ill try
(hold up, can you go to ||right side city by c dashing across the fountain|| room ? Surely you can’t right ?)
You cant
Smh azerty
I’m using ||thorns of agony, lifeblood heart, quick slash, and I’m getting notches for Joni’s blessing||
i recommend switching ||thorns of agony for defenders crest if you have it.||||Lifeblood heart can also be replaced with fragile heart||
Yikes
You don’t want to equip good charms instead of ||lifeblood heart and thorns of agony ?
I see that you are trying a "I don’t want to learn the boss and will just damage tank the boss"
But using good charms like shaman stone or even the fragile strength charm (which doesn’t break for a dream fight is probably better)||
In more than one way lol
||there's an area through fungal wastes ||
Am I good with ||Joni’s blessing?||
not the best ||charm|| for this fight. Use|| shaman or strength ||instead.
Damn it
those ||notches|| can still be used for some pretty good charms tho like the ones i mentioned.
use some ||3 notch charms||, ||jonis|| is meh.
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||against nightmare king grimm we agree if I use a fragile charm it won't break if I lose?||
yep
True
ty
|| if i didnt kill them the first time they dont comeback?||
image
its edited
||im pretty sure its impossible to pass them without killing them||
okok ty
||i miss one notches and idk which one ||
Wdym
||im talking about charm location||
Want me to list them?
||fog canyon explosion room, Grimm quest, fungal wastes ogres, 4 from salubra, coliseum of fools ||
||ok i try fog canyon||
Spoiler tags
sry
How do you disable the screenshake?
||it was fog canyon thank u!!||
That's not related to screenshake 
|| im so dumb sorry wtf ||
Brainfarts are fun
You need to edit a file named Config.ini in your game files, lemme grab the way to find it 1 sec
Alright, thank you.
I found it.
SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Hollow Knight\hollow_knight_Data
CameraShakeMultiplier=0
I wonder what would happen if you turn it up past 1
Would you consider it cheating to disable it to make fights easier?
It's making the ||Watcher Knights|| a pain for me. (I didn't know that was a spoiler?)
Spoiler tags
Disabling it even allowed in speedrun so I wouldn't consider it cheeting
Any tips for ||Traitor Lord||?
||Use a nail build and stay close to him to hit him constantly (with Steady Body) and also to not let him throw the spinny things. Shadow dash through him when he winds up his lunge, otherwise stay still when he jumps over you. If he steps back to lunge, you should jump over him. If he steps back to release those shock waves, shadow dash through them.||
EASIEST BOSS EVER BRUH
Use || pogos, or sharp shadow charm if you have it. Without the charm your shade dash barely recharges in time so using the charm makes it easier to time the dash||
Not to be a lore nerd but ||traitor lord is male||
||sharp shadow|| 
||Dang, he is? I thought all mantises were female for some reason.||
The ||three in fungal are female||
It’s like the Gerudo from Legend of Zelda- they have one male every like one hundred years
What now?
Which boss
try to achieve max game completion
or achievements if you want
theres still a lot of stuff to do depending on your percentage
Is my strategy at least viable?
yes
Alright, nice 
||what is the max amount of mask?||
9
||Nine, so you need sixteen shards.||
||how can i have more health ?||
||Fragile Heart, Lifeblood Heart, Lifeblood Core, Joni's Blessing||
||But I recommend not relying on health and instead learn to dodge better, as well as equipping DPS increasing charms that let you finish fights easier.||
ty
||whats the best combo for the Flower Pat ?||
||What is the Flower Pat?||
|| flower quest delicate quest||
||how many masks?||
What's the downside of ||being overcharmed||?
i miss one
7 or 8?
Taking ||2x damage||
True
Cool, I can ||cheese Radiant fights in that case|| 

yes.
`||any tips on mantis lord?||
||If it starts leaning away from you, jump to let its lunge miss you. If it jumps and leans away, DON'T jump to let it lunge miss you. If it ground pounds, get a little bit closer to it, since the blots never hit you there. You can knock BV back pretty easily by shooting Vengeful Spirit / Shade Soul at it (unless it charges up a lunge). You shouldn't attack while it charges up, it may be swinging the nail around and parrying you. If those bubbles appear, get rid of them first by shooting them or killing two birds with one stone with Great Slash.||
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aditionally,dont recommend cheeses unless asked for
i deleted both of your messages but yeah use spoiler tags next
||because it instakills the projeciles||
||so you can focus on the boss||
if ur finding it hard try that
ok good advice
ismos am i using spoilers right
but do you even know if they have that
we could probably help them get it if they dont
oh yeah great point
but better being sure
||if you dont have defenders crest, u can get it by fighting dung defender in royal waterways||
||to get there u need to use simple key in the left side of city of tears||
wait why /spoiler no work
the /spoiler method only works at the start of a message, and it doesnt work when editing either
||i was trying to give the delicated flower to godseeker but hes sleeping (ig) and i cant wake him up||
How to get to this ||grub||?
||rectangle room to left||
||breakable wall||
||where is graves end||
so right now im at ||111% and i genuinely dont know what im missing for what extra percentage, i went down the checklist over and over and im sure ive done everything??|| im willing to stream to show my save cause im really stuck 
can you send a screenshot of your charms and inv
||heres my charms, ones missing since divine is holding it captive although ive obtained it. ||
yeah you have to get it back
ohhhh lemme do that rq and see if that works
Problem solved
||pv 5 health challenge no charms no nail upgrades no spells||
sounds like straight up pain

my friend beats ||pure vessel on radiant for fun||
like... a path
yet refuses to touch ||bindings||
Yea ppl do be like that
Can’t blame them
Any tips on ||Nosk||?
he's weird
get better reaction time
thats pretty much all that matters in that fight
also get better at ||pogo||
i guess you use that quite a bit
I can beat ||mantis lord on radiant|| for fun
good enough right?
Yea
Does the ||Hunter's Mark|| give any benefits?
Well that's a tiny bit disappointing, but okay.
It gives an achievement! Surely that's worth (it isn't of you don't care)
and LOREEEEEEEE
||What do I do with the dream nail||
||Gaining essence with the dream nail and going back to the seer can provide rewards (very important ones at that). You can challenge the various Dream Warriors around the map, or go back to the bodies of previous bosses and fight their dream variants. This can be done with 5 bosses, False Knight (to Failed Champion), Soul Master (to Soul Tyrant), Broken Vessel (to Lost Kin) and when having saved Bretta and Zote, in Brettas basement you can find a dream nail statue to fight the dream variant of Zote the Mighty (Grey Prince Zote)||
||The dream nail is also required to enter dreamer minds and destroy them which means it is required to beat the game!||
a question of my own for someone else though, ||after having beaten HK and unlocking Pure Vessel, do I just grind Pure Vessel in Godseeker mode until I get the fight down||
i mean, are you ||doing all of godhome in godseeker mode?||
well not entirely
because me personally ||I would practice it in base game because the i have it marked in HoG||
I just couldn't get ||PV unlocked||
ah
then yeah you might as well ||do it in godseeker||
alright thanks
its really difficult though
do you want ||charm reccomendation?||
||is PV the hardest in the game?||
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no
yes please
my fault
dang what is
||long nail, quick slash, unbreakable strength, steady body, unbreakable heart||
||absolute radiance?||
||absolute radiance||
thought so
this is just what i use ||i like nail based, run straight in builds more i'm not sure what your fighting style is though||
||I prefer full nail damage, I rarely use spells||
It's the first game I ever had to do all that for a controller for
so pressing the quick ||cast|| (idk if this is supposed to be spoilered) so often is kinda hard
I even struggle pressing the attack so much
should u kill all boses in the game?
||if you want to 112% the game yeah||
||hm and about the patione u could do it afetr beating the game right||
What should I use for || infected vessel/hollow knight||?
I struggle lots with ||pure vessels pillar attack||, anyone got any tips?
where did u find him
||Pure Vessel is at the end of Pantheon of the Knight (P4)||
then you can fight him in ||Hall of Gods next to Grimm||
||Try to get as high as you can and then look where the pillars are coming up and align yourself at least that’s what I do||
did u go ther after beating the hollow nikht?
You have to beat || pantheon 4 || and then you can fight it
||i know but like is that true the true final bosse is absolute radiance||
No it’s not the final boss
It’s || just an attuned version of infected vessel made by the god seeker||
||oh i see to get ther i gotta first finish the trial of ful||
why is ||nosk such a bitch||
if i beat the game can i still play in my save
You can cheese him easily
Yes
yeah ik i beat him a while ago i’m fighting the dreamer with the spinning axe rn
||is there an way to redo the hollow fight boss to get another endings||
Just refight it
||Colosseum, Conqueror Trial, is this a reasonable charm loadout? If not, any suggestions?||
if you dont feel like ||quick focus|| is being that helpful, I would use ||spelltwister and mark of pride|| instead of ||quick focus and longnail||.
The extra range from ||Mark of pride|| is much better than the one from ||long nail||
||if you are using nail arts anyways (because u have nailmasters glory i guess u are doing that, then maybe you dont even need extra range, and can replace longnail with spelltwister||
unfortunately ||quick focus|| is probably the most useful for me because im not super great at time management and have a habit of ||healing|| at the worst times, but I'll go ahead and swap ||longnail with spelltwister|| and see how that goes for me
||i was trying to give delicated flower to godseeker but hes sleeping how to wake him up||
|| It's been a while since I've beaten that trial, but I'm pretty sure I used Lifeblood Core, Shaman Stone, Quick Slash, and Unbreakable Strength||
u need to beat some ||pantheons||
ok
||She wakes up after you beat either 1 or 2 Pantheons||
does anyone have any idea how to get here i completely forgot 😭
||i think in vanilla it's butt||
||whats the best build to figth The hollow knight/radiance||
i dont think thats even possible
😭
oh it is i just realized it's a breakable wall that's why it's not on the map
although i'm playing rando and have no claw so i can't :c
just get in another place frfr
||honestly there is no absolute "best build" since it's a personal preference, i prefer nail build but if i had to recommend for radiance i'd go with a spell build, shaman stone, spell catcher, and i'd go for quick slash with mark of pride, a mix to get more spell dmg and easily get a lot of soul + some nail damage in between since she moves a lot (relatively), so you can spam spells whenever she's infront of you||
Genuinely how tf do I do || p5 markoth Into failed champ || i don’t even have || GPZ|| unlocked
practice ||ascended||
|| practice ascend untile you can do phase 1 consistent and phase 2 is somewhat doable for you ||
||you can farm soul off failed champ to heal||
Patience, young padawan
|| unbreakable strentgh is more reliable than mop
Because qs + strength gives crazy dps in phase 4 ||
|| quick slash unbreakable strentgh shaman spell twister or soul eater if you are willing to over charm ||
What's even this?
Good question
im currently paused at the end of ||P5, lowkey sweating rn so please drop as many tips to beating abs rad as possible
🙏||
||Yo I need help, a tall white lady asked Me to take this flower somewhere but I dunno where she meant for me to take it, I don't have the full map unlocked yet but I was scared to say no-||
||You gotta go to the complete other side of the map without taking any damage, Queen's Gardens above the stag station I think, good luck||
Where is ||queens gardens?||
And, 2nd, can I do it multiple times or do I need to be that careful
Please add spoiler tags to your message. Also you arent allowed to mention areas or other stuff they havent reached yet, you should find out if they know about it by asking for their map
Spoiler tags please for you too
Do you know if it's multiple attempts-
||Yeah you dont need to worry, you can get as many as you want||
update i got KO'ed 😔🙏
I have no clue how to deal with ||Grey Prince Zote, he is way too random.||
||GPZ is not random smh
he is has distinct attacks and telegraphs, simply identify the telegraph and dodge||
I love just telling people to dodge the attack
my guy this is #hk-help not #hk-discussion

Just dodge the attack bro
||Yes he is, the explosive balloons appear at random places, he has a random off-screen fall attack, he randomly dashes or DOESN'T when about to slice in midair, there are no indicators for these things.||
It isn't random
You can see when he does it
Like, just parry lol
And he's stationary when he spawns the ||balloons||
Yep
He doesn't randomly ||dash||, he only does it when you're far away
It's not difficult
Just like every other boss 
Is parrying actually a viable strategy? I thought it's too risky.
Parrying is fun 
I thought parrying in this game was just "you're lucky you got off easy"
It's nowhere near reliable enough to use consistently
Also idek if you can parry ||GPZ||
What is early/mid/late game?

The effectiveness of parrying doesn't really change over the course of the game so I'm not sure why that was said
Well you don't know how to parry in that part of the game, unless you watched a video or knew beforehand
Because not everyone knows what they're doing 100%
It's why we have spoiler fails
And uncspoilers
Anyways hang on I'm sure there are help walls for that boss
And poor advice like this
Mean but true
@dull kernel
Don't you mean ||112%||? 
no
Okay, cool, thank you.
Second part of that wall
if their only complaint is it's random (when it's not) that means they aren't reading telegraphs which is like the only reason it could be random
What are telegraphs?
But if you ||compare GPZ with Pure Vessel, PV's moves are WAY more predictable by multiple landslides.||
Yeah but if you have an intention of helping you tell them what those telegraphs are
Any movement/other visual cue by a boss that tells you what his/her next move will be!
Not an HK specific term 😅
Haven't fought ||GPZ|| a lot myself but from what I remember of ||PV|| and what I've heard from a lot of other players that does seem true
Well then of course I read telegraphs, I would have never been able to defeat ||42 Radiant bosses|| otherwise.
I just found out ||GPZ never falls right on top of you when doing the off-screen attack, why did nobody tell me?
||
you mean when he|| falls from the ceiling?||
||Yes, whenever I stand still, he always misses me and I only evade the shockwave.||
Okay, weird.
generally i think its best to ||not move horizontally much when dodging that attack tho, stay still and watch if he is falling on you or not and move accordingly|| 
This is so untrue, ||he just dashes whenever he feels like it, no matter if you're close or far or walking or dashing or jumping, HE DOES IT COMPLEEEEEEEEEEEETELY RANDOMLY||
It is 1000000% RNG

Untrue, ||he was already close and just did it anyway, while I was walking at a tiny speed.||
If you aren't gonna listen to advice, don't ask for it
And sometimes ||I am very far away and he only jumps normally.||
Yeah
||The advice doesn't work, there are no predictions you can make.||
And don't complain unnecessarily, that's obvious though.
Then don't ask for advice here?

"if the advice doesn't work, don't ask for it" 

If you have a broken arm just unbreak it
you should be open minded to advice regardless of your frustration, however everyone elses dismissive tone doesnt help either
The point I want to make is that I am very sure it's RNG, every bit of predictability vanishes the more I play.
Holy frick the pain is finally over
I apologize for my infuriation from previously, but dying to the same boss for 1.5 hours straight made me a little bit abraisive 
I have 114 attempts for ||THK||
What is that?
||The Hollow Knight||
Ah, okay, that's rough buddy.
I'm doing it Charmless too 
||this fight, compared to every other fight does seem to be incredibly random, its the nature of the boss. there really is no denying that- he can cancel his flail attack as soon as he starts it, move erradically, things like that seperate this fight from the rest. you shouldnt let it discourage you either as this is one of the hardest fights in the game.
generally for this fight, especially if you arent confident in it, you want to keep distance and attack zote once he finishes an attack, as during this time he wont do anything for a short amount of time. i.e after he flails, he will fall and be stationary, same with when he falls from the ceiling and when he summons zotelings. these are the times to attack (you can also heal when he summons zotelings). during the rest of the fight, your priority shouldnt be attacking. instead focus on zote and maintain some distance so u have much more time to react. try to use your soul very often as well, dont save a lot of it as opportunities to heal will be rare, so its best to use it on damage instead.
essentially, for this fight in particular, i think the best way to really learn it is to play it. obviously advice can be given, but due to the nature of the fight its best if you can try to feel it out for yourself, that isnt to discourage you from asking for help, however. also taking breaks is important. it can seem counterintuitive, but breaks are peak, especially for pondering about mistakes
||
Alright, thank you, ||I defeated him on Radiant with a nail build by staying in hitting range, jumping over shockwaves, moving minimally, dashing away if he starts walking, pogoing him when he starts fencing, and shooting his Zotelings from a distance. Maybe I just played too aggressively, I don't know
||



remember that this is the help channel 
Right
New cat pit just dropped 
its the ponder cat
Them cool
||i got shadecloak before ismas is that normal||
he's being helped in #hk-discussion
is that chat not good enough?
It's a circlejerk between all the regulars there, which I am not
So I'm not really interested in talking there, unless It's about math
valid reason ig
It is somewhat rare, people tend to do it the other way around
But the game definitely does allow for it to be done in that way
So yes it is normal, if unusual
That's what I did lol
Most people hate || water waves || so yeah this is pretty normal
But I honestly don't understand why it's so hated
It looks cool to me 
ways*\
Maybe coz it's literal sewer?
Okay || flukes || sucks but I like the design of the rest of swear 
Yeah design look cool to me too
But the ||Flukes|| are really annoying there

Yep, I actually knew too late what poo guy's lever does
Until you can oneshot the smaller ones is okay, if not then you'll die.
||flukes are fine|| I just hate ||dung defender and white defender||
||Dung Defender||... 
spoilers
Spoilers

||Dung Defender|| is fine, it’s ||White Defender|| for me
I hate both
love the ||white defender juggle||
Understandable
For some reason I just can’t do it
the timing is a little funny
Officer it's this person take him to jail
well hello there !|| I had a question about steel soul. Since death isnt permanent in dream world is it the same with our dear grimmy boy here ? im doing 100% and his fight is a great trainging for the bosses i have left (not a lot but still i wanna fight grimm !)||
you're right ||dying to NKG doesn't end the run||
thx 🙂
time for the|| best music/fight in the game then (non objectiv but i think a lot share my mind)||
damn it im rusty as hell lmfao
What is that symbol under my health? It looks like geo idk
it is geo
Yeah I just realized that lmfao. I couldnt see the number so I was like wtf
The screen is too blinding lol
fr
Geo is died
your geo in heaven
||bardoon's butt 😭||
lol
||every dream except Radiance and White Palace don’t count as real deaths||
Adding upon this, remember that ||PoP is included in wp||
is ||white palace required to 100% steel soul||
if you ||do the dlc, no||
U can just do other stuff it's not requirer
||I just beat the 3rd level of the coll of fools did I get anything unlocked? Besides the 3k geo||
an achievement
||you’re a fool to think you’d get anything more than that||
congrats
you unlocked "empty feeling"
A steam achievement is no empty feeling in my eyes 🥹
Can somebody give me a ||charm reccomendation || for ||the second part of p4 ||? Rn im trying with ||shape of unn, baldur shell, quickfocus and the one you get from nymm ||
I can do ||pure vessel || with this these, but in ||p4 || i die at ||watcher knights || or i have like ||only 3 hearts for the pure vessel. ||
||use strength shaman stone quick slash spell twister||
Thx
What % do you have?
111
Woah 
Hi E
Hey Neb! 
Did you win?
How many hours?
||how many masks do you have?||
Help me with HK multiplayer, please
400
Woah, nice
I only have 7 
I should probably get ||Pure nail||
You should
||Welp time to do trial of the conqueror for my 2/3 pale ore||
360 hours in main game 40 hours modded
I wanna play with mods so baddd
||have you started the grimm troupe yet?||
Still haven't figured out how 
Show your map
I have every place I think
Here
So ||howling cliffs|| does have a purpose other than a ||Nart!||
Yes a few
||joni's charm, grubs, essence trees, grimm, nart and treasures||
thats all i can remember
Oh yeah that charm
Wait
I can't get up there-
How?
It's too high
||are you at the top of howling cliffs?||
Next to ||gorb||
Autocorrect 
go down
Down?
You cant access that and you dont need to
left and down
If I die-
i havent played for over a year so i forgot stuff
?tag uncspoilers
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Where do I go? 
i doubt he cares about it 🙏🏼
I do
sorry then
He already knows most things but its in the channel rules
I didn't know that ||stag|| part 
Use the power of bad memory to forget it
I still need to know-
find a secret wall

Breakable wall
Every damn wall looks breakable
No
Breakable walls look different to normal walls

Everything here just looks like rock
Tf is this room for
NVM
MORE SECRETS

I need ||Awoken dream nail don't I.||
No
Q
Q?
Q!!!
Wth do I do know? 
frog
-# I don’t wanna dm u :)
Act scared
I don't bite! 

Act scared?
Yes
The fire is very scary
A mysterious figure appears!
oh no
What-
|| nkg || flashbacks
Haha
Idk what I'm supposed to do 
||go to the town||
Oh ness

It’s like “oh yes” followed by || dream nail|| followed by || OH HELL NOO||
||Sly is the best town shopkeeper bro 🙏||
True
Actually no, he's the best ||shopkeeper!||
||bapanada
||
Spoiler
||I THOUGHT YOU DIED SLY!||
Hes giving you an early christmas present!
||she wants to eat your legs||
I saw that Reece
What-
ribbit
AH WTF
Uhm i mean ||charms||
||AM I FIGHTING NKG?!||
No
Not yet….
||He gave me a charm and then vanished...||
Equip
Okay..?
||equip it for a surprise ||
Fire hungry
I don't like this...
You will
Yes
I'm not ready for parenthood 
Where is this grub?
Spoilers
You gotta raise him
I’ve been looking for like 2 hours
?tag spoilers
WDYM SPOILERS
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🔹 If you have sent an untagged message, you must either edit it to include spoiler tags or delete it.
My phone might be fucked hold ln
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I don’t know how to spoiler
Right here...
I don’t see eye icon
Thats his diet
Delete it for now
||He eats fire...?||
There
Yes
My child is weird...
What percentage do you guys have on the game
this is how to spoiler
75
Might take awhile my WiFi is so bad
ok bacon hair
||Why tf is there a man fighting me with a torch...?||
Sending
He is the big fire
It should be a spoiler now
Why is he so tanky 
Because he dont want to die
?tag Spoilers
No tag Spoilers found.
|| at the start and end of the message
Ok
||Example
||hi
|| example ||
Did that work?
Start, and end
No
Hi||
Both sides
||like this||
Oh cool I killed the giggle guy
YAY
Alternatively you can also highlight the text, right click and select « mark as spoilers »
Remember to also spoiler your message
Oh I didn’t know the message was a spoiler
You could've just edited the words-
||you should buy the items from cornifers wifes shop||
||I have bought everything except the markers||
Nope
Even I know you haven't
My child needs one more piece of food
||how do I open these doors??? The levers are literally behind the locked door, what do I do||
Wsg
FEED HIM
OKAY!
||talking about grim child?||
The other way
I don't have a map
Yeah?
Ok
||also somebody should have warned me some "banker" was going to rob me of 250 geode earlier||
1mm left 20cm down
||This is all she has on stock||
Buy it
kk
Want some of my cash?
???
Further down
Done
Another mm left


