hk-help

[inland shadow]

||Markoth is NOT the least fun boss, there's kinda a rhythm to the fight once you learn it||

[forest pewter]

Wth ||abs rad|| ???
||Markoth|| is wwwaaaaay better than that stupid flying moth

[frigid charm]

no floor is a big deal

[tawny sapphire]

they are both ||flying moths||...

[inland shadow]

[forest pewter]

:ponder:

[versed urchin]

||but one is a dead flying moth the other is kinda alive||

[tawny sapphire]

the other is a nuclear fusion machine

[frigid charm]

she dead too

[shadow venture]

||fml you have not done radiant markoth then, there is no rhythm to that boss at all||

[frigid charm]

🐧

[tawny sapphire]

as a person who has done it, it does have a rythm smh

[shadow venture]

||I didnt say markoth was hard, just least fun boss, it is way harder to radiant than absrad||

[forest pewter]

Or does it?

[versed urchin]

||the rhythm is to throw your controller against the wall than get it back and try again||

[shadow venture]

||What is the rhythm, literally everything to the boss is random||

[inland shadow]

||I've literally done RadHoG, wdym "you have not done radiant markoth then"|| 😭

[forest pewter]

Fair I haven't beaten || rad markoth yet ||

[frigid charm]

||Grimmchild|| is work for ||Markoth||

[tawny sapphire]

||You swap between charging your Nart and wall jumping|| and the boss is free

[tawny sapphire]

when ||RadAnyRad||...

[inland shadow]

I wouldn't say free but that's the strategy; ||nail arts|| work sooo well on that fight

[forest pewter]

Lmao

[inland shadow]

I have thought about trying ||anyrad|| though

[shadow venture]

||Doing that will still make the boss take 10 years, the only like effective strat imo was grubberfly elegy and even then the boss is still annoying||

[forest pewter]

but I can't jump and use ||nail arts ||

[tawny sapphire]

not with ||NMG||

[inland shadow]

No it won't, because once you get good at the fight you can hit him with a ||nart|| pretty much as fast as they charge with ||nmg||

[tawny sapphire]

[forest pewter]

I can't because of

[frigid charm]

mobile?

[tawny sapphire]

just get official

[forest pewter]

Yeah

[shadow venture]

||But even then you still cant say the fight is fun, he has 2 attacks, compared to some other bosses||

[forest pewter]

Wowers never thought of that

[tawny sapphire]

||let me introduce to you Royal Dreamer||

[frigid charm]

modded boss?

[forest pewter]

Shhh don't let anyone find about that

There gonna get trauma

[tawny sapphire]

TRUE

[frigid charm]

does annyone use ||Full Lifeblood charm for P5||🐧

[tawny sapphire]

nope

gimme like 2 minutes

[frigid charm]

dash through him

[inland shadow]

||I already told you my strat, which is to mostly stay in the center and when he pinwheels towards you, dash away and then immediately turn around and great slash to hit him||

[frigid charm]

tag

[inland shadow]

This requires a lot of practice tho

[forest pewter]

Should I stream || charmless sly || to demonstrate how to beat him

[tawny sapphire]

it wouldn't matter ||only fury affects Narts and they aren't using it||

[inland shadow]

||btw the visual cue I use for when to stand when the phase start is around the fourth candle||

[frigid charm]

yeah

[forest pewter]

Wait a fucking minute
U can beat ||sly ||in 3 hits on non mobile ?

[tawny sapphire]

yes

[forest pewter]

That's so not fair

[tawny sapphire]

assuming you did a ||Shaman stone abyss shriek at the start|| yes

[forest pewter]

[tawny sapphire]

[frigid charm]

||Hornet sentinal|| Died faster than ||Protector form||Wtf

[tawny sapphire]

💀

[forest pewter]

U doing|| p5 ||

[tawny sapphire]

I forgot I still haven't done ||DoH||

[forest pewter]

What's dat

[tawny sapphire]

||https://youtu.be/YKfxZVhORtU?si=NAQwZtrpa--lEuAR||

[frigid charm]

My brains shutdown when|| Nkg do the Pufferfish||

[forest pewter]

Oh I remember this thing

[forest pewter]

Same

[frigid charm]

only thing can save me is ||d dark||

[tawny sapphire]

you haven't seen ||IKG/AIKG||

[forest pewter]

THE AMOUNT OF LUCK HERE IS CRAZY

[forest pewter]

|| inferno king || ?

[tawny sapphire]

||I love how he changes colour through out the fight||

[inland shadow]

||blueberry grimm|| (:

[tawny sapphire]

||RGB gaming Grimm||

[proper frost]

||@ blueberrymeow grimm||

[frigid charm]

and u died?

[forest pewter]

Yeah I am havving alot of runs where I reach that phase today
In one run I had full hp still died in climb phase

[frigid charm]

git gud

[forest pewter]

Let's see how you practice|| abs rad||

[frigid charm]

🐧

[full verge]

Hey everyone ! Okay here is my situation : ||I'm currently speedruning hollow knights to get the two achievments for finishing the game in ten and fivbe hours. I already got dream nail, hera, tram pass, dash and soul. My nail is lv 3 (double upgrade) and i still have 3 hours to finish the game; where should i go first ? Thanks in advance for the help (also the boss i struggle with is the infamous watcher knights !||

[forest pewter]

Get || spell twister || it crushes|| watchee knight||

The rest is free

[full verge]

||not enough for me i had this with shade soul and five masks. i now have six mask and a better nail but still its not an easy boss. what about descending speall and its upgraded version , with sahma stone it would be nuts no ?||

[zenith basin]

im actually interested in this convo since i need advice for this aswell

[forest pewter]

It still good but it would have been significant better if u had level || 2 nail instead || also || spell twister ||still very necessary

[tawny sapphire]

||generally try to rush DDark in speedrun achievement, it's free and OP||

[forest pewter]

I have an video which has basically no skip
And I got 3 hours and 13 mind with it first try
Do you want it?

[zenith basin]

sure

[forest pewter]

Alright

[frigid charm]

skibidi

[forest pewter]

Alright come in #speedrunning I'll show it there

Sent it

@zenith basin

[frigid charm]

i died by a ||Baldur in steel soul||bruh

😓

[forest pewter]

Get gud

[frigid charm]

||greenpath||

☠️

[zenith basin]

is that ||ddark|| or ||ddive||

[tawny sapphire]

tags

[crystal tide]

i've deleted your msg please make sure to spoiler tags next time

[noble seal]

hey i wanted to start doing godmaster is the dlc available on switch?

[crystal tide]

yeah all dlc are available

[zenith basin]

tags

[noble seal]

very cool

[zenith basin]

actually does that count as tags

[forest pewter]

What? || if you mean on speedrun then yeah u need d dark ||

[crystal tide]

it's okay

just a dlc name

[zenith basin]

ok fair

[forest pewter]

Thanks for the favour I wanted to delete it but couldn't because of my slow internet

[frigid charm]

can we ||DN broken Vessel||

[zenith basin]

yes

[frigid charm]

i mwan the dialouge||

not ||Lost Kin||

[forest pewter]

I think he does have a dialogue

[frigid charm]

i hope w could save ||Myla||

[tawny sapphire]

challenge run idea ||do AIKG but you can't use DDark||

[full verge]

send it to me too please 🙂

[forest pewter]

It's in #speedrun

[forest pewter]

Check it out

[full verge]

great thanks !|| i also plan to do a skip in crossroads to get to monomon||

[forest pewter]

Ok then then skip || basin and royal waters || entirely

[full verge]

yep ! this will give me plenty of time to prep up for the big fight(s)

[forest pewter]

|| watcher knight || is only hard fight tbh
||Hk || Is free if just spam ||spells ||
|| ummu || is also free with ||shade fireball + shaman ||

[full verge]

no issue for the last two you mentionned but yeah the first one is my nightmare haha

[inner robin]

||watcher knights can be made free with dive||

[jovial plank]

no

it just doesnt work

[forest pewter]

It kinda is but u have to be careful

[forest pewter]

Dont underestimate || hk || on a speedrun
Just saying

[inner robin]

Yeah seriously

[forest pewter]

Yeah I thought I was gonna first try him and then got humbled instantly

[winged trench]

any tips for beating ||hornet||

she's so unreadable

[inland shadow]

||Hornet 2||?

[safe hedge]

||that’s probably bad to put, ask something like “in greenpath?” instead||

[winged trench]

the one in the woods

[hallow niche]

Okay so what do you have trouble with the most?

[shut sparrow]

||use your vengeful spirit spell as much as possible whenever you can. When she staggers (takes a break) use that time to heal but don't try to heal outside of that||

other than that try to learn the attacks

[hallow niche]

||There is one opening to heal when she throws her nail and you’re on the other side of the arena||

[shadow venture]

||thats a good opening for dmg tho||

[hallow niche]

That too ofc ||i just meant it as an answer bc he said you can only heal when she staggers||

[winged trench]

getting hits on her w/o losing a life

[hallow niche]

||Try to dodge her attack and when she’s done you should have time to get one or two save hits in. You can do the most damage safely when she throws her nail bc it’s easy to dodge and hornet doesn’t move||

[shadow venture]

||Hornet only has like 5 attacks or something, a lunge, an aerial jump and then lunge downwards, an aoe circle around her, a needle throw and a jump, just learn the starting animations and work around them||

[shut sparrow]

||there are many openings to heal. However for newer players these are often hard to use||

[hallow niche]

Ye ik but i thought that one would be easy enough

[safe hedge]

Really just take your time and be ok with failing

||hornet|| is the first real skill check

I struggled with it a lot too

[hallow niche]

Yea just be patient and don’t get frustrated

[winged trench]

took like 4 tries

[safe hedge]

Nice

[hallow niche]

Yoo congrats

[safe hedge]

It took me like a half hour

[hallow niche]

Well done

[winged trench]

real

[tawny sapphire]

||Hornet Protector
Hornet Protector wall by Kanna#0192||
||Hornet||
||recommended charms: Soul Catcher||
||note: After dodging the different attacks, try to get to the other side of the arena so it's easier to dodge the next attack.||
||Ground Charge: Jump over Hornet, then turn around and hit her.||
||Aerial Charge: Walk under the charge, then turn around and hit Hornet.||
||Needle Throw: Stand in the opposite corner of Hornet, and if you have soul, either fire a Vengeful Spirit at her or heal, if needed.
If you are unable to get to the other side or want to play aggressively, you can jump over the needle while standing next to her and spam nail, keep in mind the needle returning||
||Gossamer Storm (AoE): When you see Hornet start to use this attack, walk to either side of her (whichever is closest). Then, if you have soul, either fire a Vengeful Spirit at her or heal, if needed.||

[winged trench]

is this ||dash||

[tawny sapphire]

yes

[hallow niche]

Wait maybe censor it

[tawny sapphire]

Tags on ||dash||

[winged trench]

i did

[hallow niche]

The people on this server really hate just the smallest spoilers

[winged trench]

stupid

[tawny sapphire]

It’s just the rules smh

[hallow niche]

Rip all that work for nothing 🫡

[tawny sapphire]

I copy pasted that lmao

[hallow niche]

Ye ik but even ||healing|| has to be censored

[tawny sapphire]

[hallow niche]

Okay not too bad then

[winged trench]

this happened when i ||dashed|| what does it mean

[tawny sapphire]

Healing doesn’t need to be spoilered

[hallow niche]

It’s just some ||lore||

[tawny sapphire]

Dw abt it run

[hallow niche]

It did once tho

[tawny sapphire]

It never did smh

Whoever told you that lied

[hallow niche]

I got fronted bc i said it so idk…

Okay atleast i can say healing now

[tawny sapphire]

You got lied to lmao

[hallow niche]

🙏

[tawny sapphire]

Hi Anika

Anika left

[hallow niche]

🔥✍️

Very emotional story

[bright sorrel]

[winged trench]

where do i go from here

[shut sparrow]

||you just got a new ability. So check out older places again to see if you can continue there now||

[full verge]

yyeye i know haha but i prefer hilm than those devils

[forest pewter]

Far Down right

[zenith basin]

do you see the amount of holes in that map
yeah fill them (you can now)
and remember to backtrack, you might be able to get to new areas now

[safe hedge]

You’re at the point where the game starts opening up

Soon there isn’t a definite next place

Already there’s a bunch you can do, though there is still somewhere specific for you to find

[hoary forge]

Ah I hate ||Watcher Knights|| they just ended my ||Steel Soul run||

Little late in asking but any tips for ||Steel Soul||?

[violet ocean]

||get as much gear as possible. Practice the harder bosses, like wks||

[tawny sapphire]

Be overgeared for everything

[hoary forge]

Yeah this time I will try to get ||Nail upgrades|| first

I think I died because I tried to do ||wks|| with no ||Nail upgrades||

[violet ocean]

bro. why

[hoary forge]

I thought ||DDark|| would be enough

[violet ocean]

.-.

[winged trench]

any tips for the ||green bush boss||

[violet ocean]

||massive moss charger?||

[hoary forge]

What ||charms|| do you have?

[hoary forge]

Probably yeah

[winged trench]

just the ||faster soul one|| is there another?

[hoary forge]

Yeah there are many

But for this boss just try to dodge

It just have 2 attacks

[violet ocean]

||for massive moss charger, you can just hit it repeatedly as it charges at you (dodge the jump) since it takes a lot of nail knockback||

[hoary forge]

For some reason I get hit always when I do not equip ||Steady Body|| when it does charge attack possibly skill issue

[zealous briar]

Any tips for collecting the ||fire for the grimm child charm ||

[violet ocean]

yes. that is skill issue

[violet ocean]

||use spells and nail arts. High burst damage helps ||

[zealous briar]

[hoary forge]

You can use ||Nailmaster glory|| charm if you have it, helps a lot for ||Nail arts||

[zealous briar]

what are ||Nail arts|| again sorry im a little new to the game

[violet ocean]

charged main attack

[bright sorrel]

?tag uncspoilers

[languid radish]

🔹 An unnecessary spoiler is a spoiler (even a tagged one!) that was not directly requested by the user being helped, such as help referencing in-game content that the player has not necessarily reached - Charms build containing Charms they haven’t found, for example. These spoilers, though generally good-intentioned, can harm a player’s experience as any other spoiler would. Remember the game is non-linear; Always make sure to know what a player has and where they’ve reached. A simple screenshot of their map and inventory would tell you all you need to know.

[hoary forge]

Oh then it’s possible you haven’t found those yet sorry for spoilers

[zealous briar]

I dont really care abt spoilers to be honest

your good

[hoary forge]

Yeah then just use ||Shaman Stone + spells|| to deal with those ||Flame ghosts||

[zealous briar]

ok

[tawny sapphire]

Gimme a sec

||Hornet Sentinel
Hornet Sentinel wall by AppleEgg101#6467||
||Wall for Hornet Sentinel:||
||These attacks are in comparison to Hornet Protector (Greenpath Hornet)’s moveset, but are much faster.||
||Lunge: Hornet will lunge at the Knight with her needle out. She can be jumped over and pogoed on as well.||
||Aerial Lunge: Hornet will jump up, and lunge at you. She will sometimes land on the wall, which she will jump down from. This attack can be dodged by quick walking or a dash.||
||Silk Storm: Hornet creates a wide area of silk around her that does damage. This attack can be dodged by dashing away, and it also takes long enough that healing is possible. This attack can be done after a jump (in the air) and on the ground as well.||
||Needle Throw: Hornet bends back a bit and throws her needle, covering 75% of the arena. She then pulls it back, which can also damage the Knight. The needle can be pogoed on or jumped over.||
||Jump: Hornet jumps within the arena. She can follow up with an Aerial Lunge or Silk Storm.||
||Run: Hornet runs within the arena. She can follow this up with any attack.||
||In addition to those attacks, she gains two new ones.||
||Parry: Hornet unleashes a defensive stance. If hit, she will giggle and do a wide sweep with her needle.||
||Spike Balls:Hornet throws 2-3 spiked balls around the arena, suspended by string. The balls stay in the air, and there cannot be more than 6 at a time. They should be a priority to destroy, as they clog up the arena and make mobility difficult. These balls can be destroyed with Nail attacks or spells.||
||Hornet Sentinel can be a difficult midgame boss. It is recommended to have your nail upgraded at least twice.||
||Quick Focus helps if you are having trouble with healing. Grubsong (which you can acquire after rescuing a couple grubs) is helpful, as it is only one notch and allows you to gain a bit of Soul when you get hit. A companion charm such as Grimmchild can also destroy the spiked balls.||

[shadow venture]

What charm setup are you using?

[shadow venture]

the tips this thing gives seem kinda troll

[tawny sapphire]

This is from a maintained document by a very recognized and respectable helper here

[shadow venture]

||I feel if you run a nail setup on this fight its pretty doable, If you have unbreakable strength, mark of pride, and quick nail then it makes the fight a breeze, method i use for that fight is pretty much to just keep swinging, if she summons the spike balls then just break them, when she throws the needle, jump over do 2 hits and then jump over the coming back part, when she parries just dash back immedietaly, the other attacks are pretty much just jump over or dash away and then keep attacking. This works for me, you can try it see if it is better but otherwise im not sure what advice to give||

[tawny sapphire]

Anika lurking

[shadow venture]

Yeah fair, but i dont know if something like ||Quick Focus|| is useful since it just increases healing speed or ||Grubsong|| since imo something better like ||Soul Eater|| or ||Soul Catcher|| would be better for soul gain, ||I also am not sure about grimmchild since it just shoots occasionally and there are better charms you could use, i also feel like it wont always target the spike balls|| I might be wrong but idk

[tawny sapphire]

Honestly I do agree these walls are quite outdated

[bright sorrel]

yes thats the point of ||quick focus, to heal more||

[shadow venture]

||Mark of pride and quick nail you can just pick up, easiest way to farm geo for unbreakable strength imo is just the second colosseum of fools thing||

15k

[inland shadow]

you don't even need ||unbreakable strength||; ||fragile strength won't break in godhome||

[tawny sapphire]

||Sentinel is boss that requires good spacing for dodging

You can do this using three ways

1. Just use Mark of Pride, the range of MoP by default gives the spacing required
   (Personally would recommend this)

2. Nail and space: constantly swap between hitting and spacing
   ie hit Hornet, move away slightly, move back in hit her and repeat while dodging her attacks

3. Hit and run
   This requires good precision where you’ll need to have muscle memory of Hornet’s down time.
   You’ll go close to Hornet after each attack use the entire down time to get in hits and move away before the down time ends

And remember if you somehow mess up you can alway use shade cloak as a last ditch effort to dodge whatever she just threw at you||

[zealous briar]

I was exploring a little bit and i happened to find the ||Nail art with the charge up and it is a large slash|| i forgot what its called

[tawny sapphire]

||Great Slash iirc||

[hoary forge]

Yeah that’s it there are more ||charged attacks too||

[tawny sapphire]

Stuff like this needs to be added to walls iirc

There just isn’t any info stored on a lot of niche combat tech

[hoary forge]

I would also like to add the use of ||DDark|| for escaping unavoidable damage

[tawny sapphire]

That really isn’t useful in ||Sentinel||

[hoary forge]

I meant in general combat

[tawny sapphire]

Oh yea then 100% agreed

[inland shadow]

It still can be, as a general safety tactic

[near grail]

||Trying to get as much dream essence as i can and i just beat soul tyrant what dream boss do i fight next?||

[tawny sapphire]

||Failed Champion||

[hoary forge]

You can also do ||Lost Kin|| if you haven’t done that already

It gives you ||400 essence|| I think

[torn vector]

||I would do white defender, it’s pretty easy compared to the others||

[hoary forge]

I find ||Lost Kin|| to be the easiest out of all ||Dream bosses|| with ||Dcrest|| equipped

[torn vector]

||Where do you find lost kin||

[hoary forge]

Where you defeated ||Broken Vessel in Ancient Basin||

[shadow venture]

How does ||Dcrest|| help?

[civic bluff]

||The infection balloons die from it and can’t touch you||

[hoary forge]

It insta kills those orange things

[shadow venture]

ah okay, didnt know that

[violet ocean]

||on the other hand sharp shadow completely counters failed champion||

[hoary forge]

Yeah ||Failed Champion|| is also very easy especially how ||you can farm infinite soul during staggers||

[violet ocean]

||frankly gpz is the only hard dream boss ||

[hoary forge]

I did it today I found it doable upto 5th time but after that it becomes very hard

[shadow venture]

which was ||gpz|| again?

[hoary forge]

||Grey Prince Zote||

[shadow venture]

ah yeah

Is ||NKG|| not harder?

[hoary forge]

Yeah I would put both on the same level

[solemn cliff]

||I was fighting dung defender for no reason, and when I desolate dived when he was in the ground he disappeared for 10 seconds and then randomly came back to the arena. (I was doing 112% sppedrun) How to stop this glitch?||

[simple island]

no clue
I know this happens, sometimes, but not super often either

you just got really unlucky, usually he just comes out like normal

[near grail]

how many times does|| lost kin|| stagger before he dies

[bright sorrel]

||stagger|| needs spoilers and they are determined by hits done, not health so it can vary

[simple island]

but a lot

[shadow venture]

feels like 4-5

maybe more

[simple island]

like 7 staggers with the equipment I fight them with is common

[shadow venture]

also why does it need spoilers?

[simple island]

its arguable

I guess to be safe you can tag it

[shadow venture]

ye but the staggers take less time to actually happen

[simple island]

for stuff like this there isn't really a conscensus

[acoustic sigil]

Proceeds to not tag it lmao

[simple island]

ssshhh

(did you ask btw ?)

[shadow venture]

i dont think its that deep tbf

[acoustic sigil]

You know what is that deep

Reply pinging

?tag noping

[languid radish]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/462200562620825600/919850262959640596/dontpingplz.png

[acoustic sigil]

(Although I may get ignored as their bio says, then its admin ticket ig)

[bright sorrel]

not an inherent mechanic to the game

[bright sorrel]

<@&283547423706447872> untagged 🐊 (also the user below refuses to use spoilers 🦈)

[shadow venture]

yeah but it doesnt really change anything, doesnt spoil because you cant tell what boss is being mentioned just by talking about staggering

literally every single boss in the game staggers

[inland shadow]

the fact that bosses can ||stagger|| is a spoiler.

yeah, i know.

[bright sorrel]

none of that is relevant as to why it should be tagged

spoilers arent only for bosses

anyway i dont make the rules. make a mod mail if u wanna complain abt it

[inland shadow]

idk if i should be putting this here, but ||what charms should I use for any radiance||?

i want to try this for the memes

[bright sorrel]

its impossible

[inland shadow]

[proper frost]

||all||

[proper frost]

||unless you have a crap ton of hours spent on absrad or it's modded variants,it's not gonna be worth it||

[bright sorrel]

[olive mirage]

says someone who has beaten her

[leaden briar]

ik

If only there was someone here who had beaten her on ||radiant||

[misty portal]

||I died to raidiance on last platform 😩😩😩||

[snow vigil]

||go to the anyrad server||

[violet ocean]

pretty sure they usually use ||stalwart shell + carefree melody + baldur shell + qs + [some 1 cost charm- steady body or grubsong perhaps]||

[shut orbit]

Would anyone like to give me some advice for how to beat ||Brooding Mawlek||? It's a lot harder then I remember.

[proper frost]

||heal in the corner||

[zealous briar]

Ive been trying to kill the ||ghosts to get fire for grimm child but they keep phasing into the ground and i cant hit them any tips||

[full verge]

okay this is driving me NUTS please can someone tell me ||how to do the crystal dash skip to get to mummu whitout the isma tear ?||

[junior lava]

I personally use the ||dash slash nail art, or any spells if they are out of reach. For specific attacks though, when they run into you, you can either dodge or try to time a hit||

[neat karma]

#speedrunning, or #hk-discussion

[idle tiger]

Go in at ||full soul with shaman stone and spell twister if you have it, then spam the fireball spell. The ghosts take a lot of knock back so you can sometimes get double hits with fireball||

[latent bay]

Hi, ||I went to the vendor that buys wanderer's journal and other stuff, but he's not here and says he's in Fountain Square, where is this Fountain Square???||

[inland shadow]

||you don't need to do one to get to uumuu, do you mean the one to get into qg?||

[full verge]

||the one to get into fog canion by the below of crossroads.||

[inland shadow]

ahhh, i see

[junior lava]

||its right below him to the right, a big fountain with the statue||

[latent bay]

Ok thx

[inland shadow]

||walk off this platform to the left, and start charging cdash once you cling to the wall (spamming cdash might help). once you cdash to the other side, you want to wall jump as soon as you can (this is a timing you'll have to practice)||

depends, can you send a picture of your inventory and your ||charms||?

[full verge]

yep i saw this in a video but where is the best safe place to practice it please ?

[inland shadow]

||honestly just any room with two vertical walls; just practice cdashing from one wall to the other and as soon as you hit the other wall try to learn the timing to wall jump without sliding down at all||

[rich musk]

i don't have a lot itens

[full verge]

ill train in my long game file; thanks mate 😉

[full verge]

put it in spoiler mode please

[junior lava]

||I guess one place that would imitate you getting in a water animation would be in blue lake I guess? I can't think of anywhere else rn||

[rich musk]

how I do that

[inland shadow]

also, can you send a pic of ur inventory? depending on what u have there may be a much easier way to do it

[junior lava]

when adding an image, before you send it there is an eye icon on it, by pressing it, you blur the image for the others until they press it. (also adding spoilers in text you can do by typing your message between two “||” )

[inland shadow]

||i'd actually recommend practicing acid skips on water or practicing them with isma's; water and swimmable acid have a much higher hitbox that "sucks" you down compared to dangerous acid||

[torn vector]

Where do you find ||lost kin ||

[winged trench]

sigma sigma

i need to get more ||amulets||

idk where they are tho

[torn vector]

What are you talking about?

[winged trench]

||the pendants that give buffs like soul gain||

[torn vector]

If it’s from a mod go to #modding-discussion

Or modding help

[inland shadow]

If its not a mod, can you send a ss of the ones you already have?

[full verge]

sure but its|| a speedrun|| so i dont have much :

@inland shadow

[inland shadow]

(I meant like your abilities screen, mb)

[full verge]

ah ok lmao hang on :

i dont have a lot but i do have 3 hours still so lots of choices

[inland shadow]

ah, u wont be able to do it

[full verge]

the skip ? why not ?

[inland shadow]

i mean the easy version, but if u have 3 hours, you could get ||wings||

[full verge]

||i could i do have tram pass but will it help me to get to ummu ?||

[winged trench]

i only have the one that ||gives extra soul||

like the starter starter

[zenith basin]

||soul catcher||

[torn vector]

|| What charms do I use for lost kin||

[proper frost]

||depends on what you've got||

[torn vector]

I have everything

[proper frost]

||basic shaman,qs,strength whatever
Shaman is even better in this fight to shade soul him along the path of his dash
If baloons are annoying dchrest(best charm) might be slapped in||

[torn vector]

Thanks

[long sorrel]

Not really unless you ||tram into kot and then got enough geo for luma fly and then go to crystal peaks where you get c dash and then do the acid skip to get to uumuu||

[long sorrel]

||Ancient basin||

[full verge]

||hang on whats kot again ?||

[long sorrel]

||city of tears it should've been cot||

Mb bro

[full verge]

np 🙂 since ive got about three hours left do you think this is an optimal strategy ? ||or should i go another way around to get to ummu ?||

[long sorrel]

||acid skip in cross roads isn't to hard to perform, as to heal you could just dream nail the worm looking things for soul, and crystal heart isn't too hard to get, roughly 10-20 minutes, but if you want to go into waterways, beat soul master for dive, and then beat dung defender to get tear, go for it||

[full verge]

||i got crystal already i went through crossroads. as for the worm looking thing are you talking about the grub ?||

[long sorrel]

No, just the unkillable thing that pops out of the ground and then retracts

[full verge]

yes your a life savior (more of a time savior haha) thank you so much !

[long sorrel]

It's in the room before you go into the room where you do the skip

You know how to do the skip right

[full verge]

||and so if i succeed in this skip what power do you advise me to ABSOLUTELY go for first for watcher knights ? cause these demons are the though part||

[long sorrel]

im the speedrun route where i actual beat the game in 1 hour 6 minutes, i used || strength||

[full verge]

which version ?|| strong or weak ?||

[long sorrel]

but i have found that ||quick focus|| and ||shaman stone|| help a loy

[long sorrel]

||fragile cuz unbreakble you need the grimm troupe||

and like

25k geo

[full verge]

||personnally i do a pogo strat so mark of pride is life savior (also my nail is upgraded twice)||

[full verge]

true treue ok im noting it thx

[full verge]

15 hahah its still a lot tho

[long sorrel]

you go through ||mantis to get to deep nest, grab tram to go to cot|| right

[full verge]

precisely 🙂

[long sorrel]

do you use the route made by the pheonix guy

[full verge]

indeed (hes in the server too haha)

u got a better route ?

[long sorrel]

i mean

i used his route to get my pb

which is 2 hours and 6 minutes

[full verge]

holy molly ! nice job !

[long sorrel]

but if you want a better route, ||do the normal stuff to get to the false knight, grab some geo on the way, and then skip the boss fight. go straight for vengful spirit. make sure after you bench in the vengful spirit place. after go for hornet, and make sure to not bench. use fireball or squit skip. after defeating hornet bench warp to the vengul spirit place and go for claw. dont bench on your way there either. after bench warp to vengful spirit place and back track to defeat the false knight. skip the crest if you want, but grab the geo. next you go down to sly and free him, bench at the person who sells the loads of charm stuff, buy shaman stone, and then shade skip to blue lake. grab dream nail and then make your way down to city. grab the gro hot spots(golden husk and the 2 hallownest seals) sell the seals and then go for watcher knights. after you want to buy lumafly and then go for uumuu. if you want you can do qga to quickly get into deepnest, or take the long route through fungal. once you get to beast you do the little thing and then then stag to hollow knight|| @full verge

i wont recomment this route unless you are pretty skilled at the game cuz ||watcher knights is hard with only shaman stone|| which is why i used ||quick focus||

[full verge]

||WAOUW this is a detailed route ! thanks a lot but currently the watcher knights is the biggest issue for me. plus i am still learning the various skips in the game (crystal dash one is hard but ill get there) do you think another skip would be great to learn , or no ?||

[winged trench]

how am i meant to hit this dude w/o getting hit

[full verge]

you cant he is ||invincible ||🙂 also put the photo in spoiler mode

[long sorrel]

tip for ||watcher knights|| you can ||dream nail ||them before the fight to get ||soul||

[long sorrel]

hes all platforming

[winged trench]

so can i even do anything abt him or what

[long sorrel]

you're not supposed to kill him

[full verge]

||use him as a opgo platform yes :)||

[winged trench]

o

[long sorrel]

platforming

[winged trench]

well i have ||dash|| now he's kinda useless to me

[full verge]

||if only this was enough ! this boss is so random its really annoying. whats ur strat to beat him ? do you pogo them ? or do you stay on the ground ?||

[full verge]

||he will be usefull for the other rooms i think||

[long sorrel]

if i had ||strength i pogo and doge and weave|| but i've learned that using ||quick focus|| could allow you to chip at them with ||vengful spirit|| more easily

you could get heals in quicker so you would have time to doge the ||watcher knights||

[full verge]

hmm good to know thanks ill try it all out when i will play again (tonight probably)

[winged trench]

|| yo wtf i got into this new area by accident and i killed a big jellyfish and he tracked me down or some shit ||

[full verge]

||where is quick focus again haha ?||

[long sorrel]

||fog canyon?||

[long sorrel]

the guy who sells all the charms

same place where you find ||sly||

[full verge]

||ahhhh fog canyon ! enjoy mouhahaha (dont hit the big jellyfish they have literal missiles inside of them (the oranger ball)||

[long sorrel]

you can ||dream nail the jelly fish for soul||

all they do is float around so its infinite soul

[full verge]

got it ! thx again for all your help

[long sorrel]

np

oh yeah also

[full verge]

true but|| hitting them isnt the best choice haha (and uyes i know what happens to this later on with ummu p fight)||

[long sorrel]

not with normal ||nail|| but ||dream nail|| doesnt do damage

false knight takes ||3 vengful spirits and 4 regular hits||to ||stagger||, so don't waster your ||soul healing||

[full verge]

||yep it goes as the same with every enemies (it can be very usefull for dream false knight)||

[long sorrel]

did you know the little pebbles that fall down when the ||false knight|| has a tantrum can be hit toward the ||false knight||

i dont know if it does damage tho'

[full verge]

i do yep learnt it a while ago

[full verge]

good question ngl

[bright sorrel]

[full verge]

why is the cat unhappy ?

he looks mad :0

[bright sorrel]

ponder is never mad

aaide from

[full verge]

good lord i hope i wont see this version of you too often then

[winged trench]

what the hell is ||dream nail||

😭 🙏

[dawn sphinx]

I still can't believe you decided to nitro boost without having ever played the game

[long sorrel]

Bro's cookes

[winged trench]

usually theres a booster chat

w/o a cd

[dawn sphinx]

Bruh

[forest pewter]

Wowa new emoji

[winged trench]

the game itself is a spoiler

[ancient owl]

May I get a push in the right direction about where to get ||the charm that makes you attack faster||

I have ||dive acid wings claw superdash|| in movement

[remote dragon]

||Check the right of Kingdom's Edge||

[forest pewter]

Wait a minute if I do || first fouth pantheons all bindings || then || p5 any binding ( 1 at a time) || should be free right?

[forest pewter]

Deepest part of || kingdom'edge ( far right side) ||

Beneath an || creaking floor ||

[winged trench]

I have a bad feeling about this ||chest that only gave me one coin.. ||

[torn vector]

Hop in

[winged trench]

I got gangbanged by two sandshrew wannabes

[torn vector]

The strat is to stand on one side and just focus on one at a time

[forest pewter]

I mean u can always go there later

[winged trench]

im jus explorin cuz im lost

[forest pewter]

Where have you reached ?

I mean progress

[winged trench]

lemme show u hold up

[winged trench]

im on a bench on the far left side

i cant go anymore left cuz theres ||a giant floating bug and below me is the abyss||

[forest pewter]

Go to right side to explore if u want more help
Show me your map so I can point where you need togo

[winged trench]

alr

[winged trench]

||not the jellyfishies||

u didnt spoil btw

[forest pewter]

Just ignore em

[winged trench]

ok

[forest pewter]

Wait

[winged trench]

especially the suicide auto tracking one

[forest pewter]

Wait dont go there yet

[winged trench]

ok

[forest pewter]

@winged trench this is much better

@winged trench

[winged trench]

alr

[ancient owl]

does ||mark of pride and longnail stack||

[dawn sphinx]

Yes

Also spoiler tag

[inland moon]

||Longnail|| is still bad though

[dawn sphinx]

Not in hollow point

[inland moon]

This isn't hollow point

[dawn sphinx]

Uhhhhhhhhh

[tidal sand]

Can I get some help on ||NKG||? I’m having trouble beating it, it’s the only thing I have left in ||pantheon 5 || to beat

[forest pewter]

Which attack are you struggling against?

[tidal sand]

||the pufferfish attack ||

And also ||the one where he’s in the air with fire around ||

[forest pewter]

I don't think you will get help about that lol
cuz everyone here is like ThAts tHe eSESt jUsT jUMp

[forest pewter]

Just move as soon as it spwns but take small steps
And whe the fourth fire appears do an ||shriek||

[tidal sand]

It’s pretty easy to do, but I always get hit in it because I quickly get overwhelmed by bullet hell type things

[forest pewter]

I thought u were relatable
I have been betrayed

[tidal sand]

Do I just treat it like ||the troupe master Grimm pufferfish attack || but faster?

[inland moon]

Kinda yeah

You can jump forward and move back after

[tidal sand]

Alr, thanks for the help

[split linden]

||can someone help me i cant beat watcher knights its so hard||

[shadow venture]

||What abilities/charms do you have||

[forest pewter]

Show your ||Abilities and charms ||

[split linden]

||rn im using mark of pride, shaman stone, grubsong. i think its the best one for me and i have 1 nail upgrade and spells are vengeful spirit, desolate dive.||

[shadow venture]

||If you have a lumafly lantern, i would highly recommend going to try and get desolate dark, it makes the fight a lot easier, although im not sure if you need cdash to get it, but cdash is in the same area anyway||

[cursive turret]

||Id also recommend getting the dream nail, since you can dreamnail them while they roar which helped me a lot||

[forest pewter]

I recomend getting Overpreparer
Since || watcher knights || are very tough on first playthrouhh

[somber hill]

guys ur not meant to tell them specifically what to get... they didnt ask for the specific things, ur just spoiling them on things they didnt ask for. be like Riyal here who says 'getting overprepare[d]' instead of 'get this specifically'. like if someone asked (original copypasta incoming ) "how do i beat ||false knight||?" you don't go ||ok so first enter the fight then exit the shortcut after you stagger him once, go left to get fireball in ancestral mound, go more left to greenpath by killing the baldur, fireball skip to hornet, kill her get dash, go to fungal wastes and mantis village, picking up a charm notch along the way, get mantis claw, go to city of tears, get dive, upgrade your nail at the nailsmith, sell relics to lemm u shuold have gotten along the way go to crossroads save sly and get shaman stone from salubra, buy lantern, go to crystal peaks get crystal heart, ddark while picking up shopkeepers key and pale ore along the way and then go back to buy elegant key from sly and then return to city of tears to get shade soul, go to fog canyon for howling wraiths, then go to ancient basin to fight broken vessel for wings(double jump), now go to kingdoms edge and find hornet again, go fight her, get kings brand, return to basin and find the door to abyss, jump down and get abyss shriek and shade cloak. Now ur ready to destroy false knight :D||

[inland moon]

Shark chill with the walls

[somber hill]

i ctrl c ctrl v'd

i love my copypasta

[forest pewter]

[hoary forge]

Yeah ||CDash|| is required for ||DDark|| otherwise you fall to the ||Resting Grounds||

[hoary forge]

They were tough on my second time too without any ||upgrades||, they ended my ||SS||

[shadow venture]

but telling them to get overprepared isnt helpful unless they actually get the correct stuff that makes the fight easier, they had already attempted ||watcher knights|| and were asking someone to help them, its kinda inferred that they want to either know strategies or ways to make the fight easier

[shadow venture]

yeah i could remember that you needed something else for ||ddark|| but didnt remember exactly what it was

[hoary forge]

Sure then maybe we can ask them to show inventory first to see what they have got so far

Like if they don't have ||DDark||, we could tell them to go explore ||Peaks|| before doing ||Wks||

[forest pewter]

They are incredible easy if u get || shade cloack and d dark ||

[simple island]

No what lalit is saying makes sense

[somber hill]

mmhmm

[hoary forge]

I did had ||DDark|| but no ||nail upgrades + qs + strength|| and I went into the fight overconfident with all ||6|| of them

[simple island]

First you try to give tips, if you see that they are struggling a shit ton, and you see that they really don’t have much in their inventory, guide them (more or less with hints) towards good stuff

||Ddark|| does make very quick work of them

Like 9 perfect ||DD|| and the fight is over

[hoary forge]

With ||Shaman|| or without it?

[inland moon]

Does left side matter?

[somber hill]

with iirc

[simple island]

With

[forest pewter]

Dude whats happening to my internet ?

[simple island]

For ||ddark ? It does without shamans
So it doesn’t, because you always have shamans||

[somber hill]

[inland moon]

It's departing this mortal realm

[forest pewter]

|| even better with spell twister ||

[somber hill]

left side is also ||baldur killer right||

[forest pewter]

Lol

[somber hill]

not right side tho

[simple island]

Both should

[somber hill]

oh

[hoary forge]

But this time I am not fighting them without getting ||QuickSlash and Strength||, I am not great with ||spells|| tbh

[simple island]

Yeah they take time to learn

By the way, every time you use ||spells ||you should absolutely use the "||quick cast||" key and not the "focus" key
Using the correct key makes the ||spell|| activate like half a second earlier, which you don’t want to miss out on

[hoary forge]

Oh and I will definitely get ||Shade Dash||

[hoary forge]

Oh I use "B" key on my controller for ||Spells and heal||

[simple island]

Yeah that’s not ideal

Look in the control menu to find what ||quick cast|| is bound to, and use it

[inland moon]

Personally I use the top button for ||quick cast, and the right one for focus||

When I do use a console

[somber hill]

1 is it activates on click and 1 activates on release

[hoary forge]

I see it was mapped to top right button, I will start using that

[somber hill]

it helps with skips immensly

[forest pewter]

|| spells are too good for the fight. Ur basically increasing the difficulty by not using them||

[hoary forge]

||Fireball Skips||?

[somber hill]

for multiple ||cast skips mainly||

sometimes timing ones people could prefer focus cuz they are better at timing release or something idk

but dont take my word i dont play the game

[hoary forge]

Yeah I will try to use quick ||cast|| button for ||spells|| and see if that improves things for me

[somber hill]

nice catch

[hoary forge]

[forest pewter]

U don't ?

Or do you?

[somber hill]

nop

i wish i could even at least play

but on the other hand im almost free

to play games

[forest pewter]

[somber hill]

only about 3000 more dollars to go before i can buy myself out

[inland moon]

[somber hill]

:3

(8 days)

[split linden]

||i have cdash and ismas and lumafly also should i get to the abyss after i do the last dreamer?||

[somber hill]

up to u, either works

u have enough for ||dreamer but if u wanna explore and find more stuff go do that||

[split linden]

||im going for true ending||

[somber hill]

you can do any ||ending and all of them in 1 save file||

so up to you

[split linden]

||alright ill be grinding this game for an hour||

[somber hill]

ight

[split linden]

this is too hard for me ill be stuck on this boss for days 😭

[forest pewter]

A

[zenith basin]

what boss

[hoary forge]

||Watcher Knights||?

[forest pewter]

What's hard?

[forest pewter]

Yeah probably

[forest pewter]

Why not get every ||ending ||

[hoary forge]

There are ||3|| right?

[split linden]

||watcherknights||

[zenith basin]

depends

||2 + 3 i believe||

[forest pewter]

5 || if u count God master too ||

[split linden]

i thought it was 5

[forest pewter]

Yeah it's 5

[hoary forge]

I have got ||First ending||, ||Sealed Siblings||, ||Dream no More||

[zenith basin]

godmaster dlc has two more

[hoary forge]

Do we get them after beating ||P5||?

[zenith basin]

yep

[forest pewter]

||God master ||is veri hard

[forest pewter]

Yeah

[hoary forge]

Aight so not getting those

[forest pewter]

Yeah

@brazen hinge vro is asking to get banned

[brazen hinge]

can anyone give me a way to unlock all endings ,how to unlock them in spoilers . i have finished game once but please name them all,please help

[hoary forge]

Do you know ||Chandelier trick already? and do you know that you can get soul by dream nailing Watcher Knight?||

[brazen hinge]

let me nick myself

[forest pewter]

find an || charm ||

To get other 2

[brazen hinge]

||wdym charm||

[forest pewter]

Show me your ||charm|| collection

[brazen hinge]

not opening game rn

||name that charm||

[forest pewter]

Alright so is it okay if I spoil a little?

[brazen hinge]

yes

[split linden]

||yes on chandelier and yes on dream nail. i pretty much know most about the game since i watch alot of vids and my friend is a 112% player. i dont like the dream nail soul thing id js pogo on it once i can hit them||

[brazen hinge]

i have finished game once soo

[forest pewter]

|| King soul / void heart ||

[brazen hinge]

ohhhhhhhhh

||void heart is very hard to get i rememver grinding it||

[hoary forge]

Oh then I am gonna assume you know what ||Shade Cloak|| is, do you have it?

[split linden]

||oh yeah i do have double jump aswell||

[split linden]

yep i do know but dont have

[forest pewter]

U only need || 3 dreamers for the first ending though||

[hoary forge]

I would suggest get it first, it will make things lot easier for dodging

[brazen hinge]

||i killed most of the dreamers i think so||

||also finished dlcs/||

[forest pewter]

Vro really think he finished the dlcs

[brazen hinge]

||wdym||

spoil me more

[forest pewter]

Dlc 's are harder than the main game

[hoary forge]

Tag please

[forest pewter]

What about || God home ||

[brazen hinge]

mb

[split linden]

||too lazy going to abyss and when i went there when i killed broken vessel||

[brazen hinge]

i didnt even know it exists

[somber hill]

"||basin not abyss||"

[forest pewter]

|| abyss || is worth it
It's makes || watcher knight feel like a joke ||

[hoary forge]

I feel you but then the fight is going to be tough, not much you can do except "Git Gud"

[brazen hinge]

[somber hill]

its ok tho as long as u have ||dive and shaman|| and practice it a few times

[forest pewter]

Its in || royal waters || do you want to know it's location?

[brazen hinge]

yes

i didnt search it enough tho

[somber hill]

in a crack

[forest pewter]

You need || simple key for it ||
Do you have that ?

[brazen hinge]

no

idk realy

how to get it make me remember

[somber hill]

go find one somewhere then but the area is like is it bottom left?

[forest pewter]

Alright get back to work then

[hoary forge]

Yeah ||Junkpit|| is in bottom left

[somber hill]

mm

[hoary forge]

See a guide or something for locations of ||Simple Keys|| and see which one you haven't gotten yet

[forest pewter]

Oh u poor soul

U have no idea

[final mortar]

Ik, it’s only the beginning

[forest pewter]

I feel so bad for you

[final mortar]

I’ve seen the later parts

[zenith basin]

sweet summer child

[forest pewter]

Ur flicking the lever to ENTER || the palace ||

U havet even entered it yet 😭

[zenith basin]

yeah thats basically the front lawn

[forest pewter]

Yeah

[final mortar]

….im gonna spend a whole day on this

[forest pewter]

@final mortar But dont worry || the palace isn't that bad ||

@final mortar And there's|| infinite soul everywhere in path of pain||

[forest pewter]

Yeah I did too

[zenith basin]

(its that bad)

[split linden]

i can git gud man

just let me cook

[forest pewter]

Or can you ?

[split linden]

i can

give me a few days and i can beat it trust trust trust trust

[forest pewter]

I have just giving him some hope

[final mortar]

Don’t worry I know

[hoary forge]

I believe you

[split linden]

illdo it

[forest pewter]

The entire game?

[split linden]

No, well maybe

[forest pewter]

@zenith basin he dosent know what end game has
how sad

[split linden]

||i can prob do thk since after watchers is my last dreamer then i can go to black egg temple||

[split linden]

WAIT U MEANT ENTIRE ENTIRE GAME..

[forest pewter]

That ending is mid game

[forest pewter]

Yes

[hoary forge]

Just don’t do ||PoP|| until you are ready trust me

[somber hill]

za video isnt tagged

[forest pewter]

[split linden]

OOP FORGOT TO TAG

[forest pewter]

Whhhhhaaaartt

[final mortar]

Mb, how do I tag after post?

[forest pewter]

HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE THAT?

[somber hill]

u cant edit in tags for videos or spoilers

[final mortar]

Gotcha

[somber hill]

have to delete

[final mortar]

Guess I’ll delete

[somber hill]

did ur qu get answered?

[split linden]

i used speedrun skips

[somber hill]

[final mortar]

Nope I found it out though

[forest pewter]

[somber hill]

noice

[forest pewter]

Good luck

[somber hill]

gn

[wintry verge]

||how do i find the life blood core in the pantheon of hollownest after reaching the hot spring?||

[forest pewter]

|| BINDINGS ||

[final mortar]

Thanks I’ll need it ||Hiveblood|| is the only reason I’ve made it this far

[split linden]

||all i need is true ending, pantheon 5 and path of pain||

[somber hill]

it will be to the left but u need these completed

[forest pewter]

do any 8||| bindings ||

[wintry verge]

Ah

[hoary forge]

You are in for a hell then

[split linden]

yeah, i am..

[forest pewter]

Welcome
Also thanks for joining me in the journey

[hoary forge]

I just have ||P5|| remaining in this list

[forest pewter]

I spent 40 hours in on it still haven't beaten it

[hoary forge]

You will do it probably

[forest pewter]

Hope so I beat || abs rad || today hopefully I will beat || p5 || in few days

[hoary forge]

Oh nice!

[zenith basin]

ngl i dont wanna do ||p5||

just cause ||oro mato and sheo||

[forest pewter]

What does boses are literally free

[hoary forge]

Maybe you should also do ||Radiant AbsRad|| before ||P5|| just to be safe

[zenith basin]

no

i hate them

[hoary forge]

I hate their Master ||Sly||

They are cool though

[forest pewter]

That's like harder than || p5 ||

[split linden]

im gonna crash out right here

[forest pewter]

Literally

[forest pewter]

Whaaaat

[split linden]

js died after almost beating it

[hoary forge]

yeah

[split linden]

also can i send pics in here

[forest pewter]

Who?

[hoary forge]

Keep up you are close

[forest pewter]

As longs as they are spoilee tag

[hoary forge]

Just tag them

[hoary forge]

I just can’t read his attacks, I always damage tank him lol

[forest pewter]

Wait you don't actually know how to beat him?

[split linden]

||this a good build?||

[hoary forge]

And that hitbox on his ||Nail|| is shit

[forest pewter]

Whhhhaaat

[forest pewter]

Kinda true

[hoary forge]

Yeah

[forest pewter]

Yeah it's fine

[split linden]

ok thanks ill keep trying

[hoary forge]

I mean I can take him down without learning his moveset

[forest pewter]

|| sly || is really easy if u know how to beat him

[forest pewter]

Yeah || p5 || is impossible for you

[hoary forge]

Knew that

[forest pewter]

Unless you learn his moves

[hoary forge]

Maybe someday

[split linden]

i have no hope of doing ||p5||

[forest pewter]

You know how you can just use wall to you advantage right?

[split linden]

man i cant even beat ||uumuu|| i needed a friend to help out for me LOL

[forest pewter]

It's 100% worth it

[hoary forge]

I never really put in effort just cheesed him with ||qs, strength, steady body||

[forest pewter]

|| use spells fr ||

[split linden]

I DID.....

[hoary forge]

Bro if I managed to do ||P5||, I swear I will brag non stop

[split linden]

but in the end my friend didnt even break a sweat beating it for me

[forest pewter]

Same lol

[split linden]

also when can i get to ||godhome|| i really wanna fight ||mantis lords|| again it was so fun

[tawny sapphire]

[tawny sapphire]

Anytime actually

[forest pewter]

I can show you how to beat him if u want to

[forest pewter]

You just need || simple key ||

[hoary forge]

Sure

[forest pewter]

Alright i gusse I will do a small stream in vc

[split linden]

||i alr got to royal waterways|| js dont know how to gothere

[tawny sapphire]

It’s like a bunch of secret walls

[forest pewter]

You need another|| simple key||

[split linden]

FR? I CAN BUY ONE RN

[forest pewter]

Yeah fr

[tawny sapphire]

Yeah lmao

[tawny sapphire]

Btw did you get the bench? In the area?

[split linden]

oh wait i have another one for some reason

[split linden]

yes

[forest pewter]

@hoary forge is it visible?

[hoary forge]

yep

[forest pewter]

Alright

[tawny sapphire]

||Alright just below the bench you should find a weird symbol that uh lemme get a screenshot||

[hoary forge]

But you playing on mobile

[split linden]

I THOUGHT U MEANT ON ||CITY OF TEARS|| IM DOING ||WATCHERS|| RN

[hoary forge]

@forest pewter pretty good

It was kind of like hit and run strat

[tawny sapphire]

I meant in ||waterways|| lmao

[forest pewter]

[tawny sapphire]

you'll find this symbol, ||use dive|| on it

[forest pewter]

Yeah you get 2hits then you run

[split linden]

WAIT ILL GET THERE LATER IN THE GAME IMA JS DO THIS

[hoary forge]

I am gonna try it right now

[forest pewter]

It isn't easy as it looked but with enough practice|| sly|| becames kinda free

[zenith basin]

activate windows mf

[tawny sapphire]

not my laptop

[forest pewter]

@hoary forge why are you playing so offensively lol

[hoary forge]

Fuck

Let me try again slowly this time

[split linden]

DFA DSKJ;BHF

I HATE THIS GAME

[zenith basin]

@hoary forge when he ||spins, try to pogo while centering youreslf on the spin, you can get a lot of hits in that way||

[forest pewter]

@hoary forge u have to|| dash after getting 2 hits || running isn't enough

[hoary forge]

I had ||Sprintmaster|| I thought I could run away

[hoary forge]

I tried but got the timing off for ||pogos||

[forest pewter]

You did it way too early
Which caused you to get hit

[hoary forge]

I have been defeating ||Sly|| by damage tanking before so it will take some time to get used to this strat

[forest pewter]

Yeah it will take a good amount of practice but definitely worth it

[hoary forge]

Ye exactly

[hoary forge]

Ok I will practice him in ||Ascended|| in that way I will not be able to damage tank

[forest pewter]

Yeah that sounds kind of a great idea
But I recommend swtiching to|| atuuned ||once you can do his first stagger hitless

He staggers very fast

[hoary forge]

Got it thx!

[split linden]

I DECIDE NOT TO GIT GUD

[hoary forge]

lol

[split linden]

ILL PREPARE

[hoary forge]

Time to visit ||Abyss|| I assume

[split linden]

no

i mean later on yes

[forest pewter]

Wym "no "

[hoary forge]

Wym by "PREPARE" then?

[forest pewter]

@split linden wait did you find || god home ||

[split linden]

later on yes

ill do sidequests first

[split linden]

not yet ill do it after im done wit yk

[forest pewter]

Really .

[split linden]

yes

[forest pewter]

Wowee

[split linden]

i forgot to get ||hidden station|| so ill do that later

[forest pewter]

Whhhhaaaaat?

[hoary forge]

How you know about it if you missed it?

Oh from your friend?

[forest pewter]

His frends obv

[hoary forge]

yea yea

[hoary forge]

May I suggest an excellent quest then?

[split linden]

because i didnt have enough money

i had 100 but u need 300 right

[hoary forge]

Hmm

[wintry verge]

||getting closer and closer to beating pantheon of hollownest, I'm very worried about nightmare king grimm since i don't have the attacks memorized||

[hoary forge]

Should have practiced beforehand smh

[wintry verge]

Not my fault i ||banished|| him

I was tired of it

||Hall of gods|| also doesn't work unless I reach him

[simple island]

Wait you never done ||nkg||…

Also he is in ||hog after you banish||

[hoary forge]

I am curious what happens when you create a new save file with ||GodSeeker|| mode, it still doesn't show up if you have ||banished|| him in your main save?

[hoary forge]

Oh then nvm above question

[wintry verge]

||i did fought him a few times, didn't last long tho||

[wintry verge]

Huh

[wintry verge]

What even ||godseeker mode|| is?

[shut sparrow]

||only if you get to him in p5||

[simple island]

They are straight into the ||hog after you banish||

[wintry verge]

I don't see him

[simple island]

||Dreamnail the statue of normal Grimm ||

[forest pewter]

|| basically God home but u can't leave it ||

[hoary forge]

It starts the game directly in ||Godhome||

[inland moon]

I like the mode because it's very funky if you do leave

Lots of weird things happen

[forest pewter]

@wintry verge

[hoary forge]

How do you leave?

[inland shadow]

||main menu storage||

[hoary forge]

Oh using ||Benchwarp mod||?

[inland moon]

The power of cheating (benchwarp)

[inland shadow]

well that works too

[hoary forge]

Got it, I never tried myself

[inland moon]

benchwrap

[hoary forge]

Will do

[inland shadow]

it is possible to leave without mods tho

[hoary forge]

[wintry verge]

So what's the point of playing it

[wintry verge]

Ah

[inland moon]

So you can do ||godseeker|| without an entire playthrough

[tawny sapphire]

MMS moment

[forest pewter]

Lore

[wintry verge]

||But by the time you get it you already beat 3 pantheons||

[forest pewter]

So obvious

[simple island]

The lore of that mode is utter bullshit

Ask about it in #hk-lore you will see the responses

[forest pewter]

You get some boses unlocked before ur supposed to unlock them

[inland shadow]

||godseeker dlc lore kinda sucks as a whole||

[tawny sapphire]

Tags

[hoary forge]

I envy your username fr

[inland shadow]

oop i just came from hk discussion mb lol

[tawny sapphire]

It’s fine

[hoary forge]

How does people do ||PoP|| in under 3 mins that's crazy

[inland moon]

I did it (barely) once

[tawny sapphire]

People beat it under 50secs iirc

[forest pewter]

Don't get hit so obv

[inland moon]

2:59 iirc

[forest pewter]

Wha?

[inland shadow]

record is like 1:58

[hoary forge]

50 f seconds impossible!

[tawny sapphire]

Check IL record

[forest pewter]

Yeah the path is too long for that

[hoary forge]

Cool!!

[inland shadow]

is this like w/ glitches or smth

[inland moon]

Don't try, just play celeste

[hoary forge]

Bro I literally installed it just now

[inland moon]

I meant don't do sub 3 ||pop||

||godhome|| funkiness is fun

[inland shadow]

i honestly don't like ||pop|| for the cycles

to a newb like me they're basically framerules but longer

[forest pewter]

?

[tawny sapphire]

Nvm I thought for some reason the fastest ||AbsRad|| run had the same time as the fastest ||PoP|| run

It’s 1:55

[hoary forge]

1:55 is still insane

[tawny sapphire]

||AbsRad|| is 39.72s

[inland moon]

Damn really

[tawny sapphire]

The fastest TAS run for ||AbsRad|| is 37.02 or smth

[hoary forge]

That is some next level gaming skills

[tawny sapphire]

Shrubb moment

[inland shadow]

also tas can manipulate rng so

[tawny sapphire]

Exactly

The TAS is only ~3secs faster than humans

That concerns me

[shut sparrow]

It's more rng than skill so not that surprising imo

still impressive tho

[tawny sapphire]

if we talk about speed yes, but that applies to almost all bosses
but ||AbsRad|| herself is pretty skill based

[misty ravine]

Hello hello,

||For some reason I just straight up don't have downslash upon starting a new save?????||

[vivid fog]

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[languid radish]

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[hoary forge]

||Downslash|| isn't an ability likely a bug or something in your save file?

[tawny sapphire]

are you using mods?

[misty ravine]

I don't know, I am re-installing Lumafly to see if it helps
||Upslash|| is still there but downslash isn't????

[tawny sapphire]

reinstalling lumafly will not fix the issue

[inland moon]

This may be a stupid question, but are you in the air when you try

[misty ravine]

Oh, as in I used to have Scarab but I have yet to update it to Lumafly

[tawny sapphire]

no like have you installed any mods from them?

[misty ravine]

I was?????????????

[tawny sapphire]

by chance randomizer?

[inland moon]

Punctuation 100

[misty ravine]

I used to have a bunch of mods in Scarab, including randomizer, but I do not have any of them in Lumafly

[tawny sapphire]

yeah that's probably the problem, is the save a rando save or just a normal save?

[proper frost]

?tag reset

[misty ravine]

I started a new save, pretty sure it is a normal save

[wintry verge]

WHO TF DESIGNED ||NKG||?????????????
This is the most unfair boss i have ever seen in my life

[proper frost]

Oh man there was something

[hoary forge]

Are you sure?

What about ||PV||?

[proper frost]

?tag modding reset gg

[languid radish]

Windows .bats to reset things

To use these scripts:

1. Download the file
2. Move the file to your Desktop
3. Double-Click the file

• **Reset all Mod Installers: **https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879138066961424405/1039418423622520842/HKModInstaller_Reset.bat
• **Reset all Global Settings files: **https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879138066961424405/1039420689624612884/Global_Settings_Reset.bat
• **Force Scarab Updates: **https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879293383556862012/1099299535144104046/scarab_reset.bat

Lumafly reset links

These work on all platforms, as long as you're using Lumafly

• Reset Memory
• Force Mods to Update

[wintry verge]

At least that gives you breathing room

||NKG|| doesn't give anything

[tawny sapphire]

||that's odd, the only issue ik of which can cause you to lose downslash is accidentally turning it on in rando
you should make a post in #1057825333841240104 ||

[tawny sapphire]

I'd say ||NKG|| has plenty of breathing room

[hoary forge]

Doesn't ||NKG|| staggers so that we can heal?

[misty ravine]

||This is weird, upslash is fine but downslash isn't, and geo rocks appear normal too||
I will make a post in #1057825333841240104 , so thanks!

[tawny sapphire]

||ehh he'd die before he staggers more than once||

[inland moon]

Twice, most of the time

[tawny sapphire]

what no way

I am gonna test rn

[inland moon]

I don't go mad ||narts|| personally

[proper frost]

||turning into a bat||

[inland moon]

Also ||radiant||

[hoary forge]

Ye

[tawny sapphire]

yeah ik that

[hoary forge]

That's pretty much the same with ||PV|| right

[shut sparrow]

||absrad itself is purely skill based and doesn't depend on rng at all. The speedrun is. And more so than other bosses because of the many different attacks and positions along with the big amount of health and long fight||

[tawny sapphire]

ok he did stagger more than once

[forest pewter]

This guy has seen absolutely nothing ||nkg ||is literally free

[tawny sapphire]

||PV|| has surprisingly low stagger value

[hoary forge]

Yeah after learing his movesets it feels smooth

[forest pewter]

Yeah but if ur careless u can get into imossible situation like if u dont || have any soul and you don't dodge radaince 's beam of light immediately she might start sword attack from opposite direction ||
But yeah still its not that much rng

[shut sparrow]

||then you should dodge it earlier. That's not rng that's you||

[forest pewter]

Yeah that's what I said I just wanted to mentione that people complained about it

Also this might be hot take but || gpz || is very fair

[inland moon]

That's not hot at all

It's like room temperature at worst

[forest pewter]

Lol

[hoary forge]

Agreed it only get's harder after like 5th time for me

[forest pewter]

I am talking about || god home gpz ||

XD

[hoary forge]

Is he different there ?

[forest pewter]

Kinda he's basically fourth ||gpz without double damage on attuned ||

[hoary forge]

I see yeah still very much fair

[forest pewter]

I think

[forest pewter]

Yeah I can't believe people say he's the hardest boss

[inland moon]

It's a matter of
Skill Issue