hk-discussion

[shrewd meadow]

🦦

[strange viper]

Does that work?

If I just use the platforms and don’t touch the floor at all for the Markoth fight

[nocturne knot]

How are you getting hit with dslashes?

[wispy sky]

i just chased a lifeseed across all of kings pass

[shrewd meadow]

no

platforms are not created equal

[strange viper]

Bro wtf do I do for Markoth

I don’t even use nail arts

[naive dew]

@shrewd meadow

[fickle wraith]

@naive dew

[nocturne knot]

Try to dodge around for 5 minutes withiut getting hit as a warmup at this point
Then repeat on phase 2
Then practice adding some hits while dodging

[proven torrent]

dodge more instead of attacking

wait for his shield spin to get damage in

[hallow solar]

does anyone know why i cant get shade soul

is shade soul access a seperate check

[subtle glacier]

shop rando

the “gh G.” is what you’ve found of “Not enough Geo.”

[hallow solar]

it needs money???

i have negative money 😭

[subtle glacier]

that’s what costsanity does, i think? i forget the setting

[hallow solar]

lemm took my money

and now im like 4000 geo in debt

[subtle glacier]

fate

[hallow solar]

RIGHSSH lets go

and 4

[subtle glacier]

hell yeah

big fan of righssh

[hallow solar]

and dual mantises

[naive dew]

hiiiii

[fickle wraith]

hiii why have i droppped wither helmet and boots 4 times but no chest or pants

[naive dew]

they are a lolt more common

[spice gate]

just letting you know but

[shrewd meadow]

@fickle wraith

[shrewd meadow]

everyone always says hi choombingy, not how's choombingy
so, how's choombingy

[spice gate]

i want to rip hornets mask off (if i could

[subtle glacier]

done with finals

graduating in a few days

[shrewd meadow]

holy yippee

all my american friends are graduating right about now

[fickle wraith]

oh okie

[fickle wraith]

hi,

[shrewd meadow]

hi blup

[shrewd meadow]

left me behind because I still got another year

well, like 8 months

[wispy sky]

how do you enable this

the alphabet rando

[shrewd meadow]

you download it

then you enable it in extras menu

[dark lotus]

Oh I thought they just took all of the vowels

[lone snow]

i love alphabet rando except when i can't use benchwarp

[lone snow]

you can take abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1234567890.,?!

every symbol

(that is used in dialogue)

[tulip narwhal]

@shrewd meadow Throw

[wispy sky]

ok is alphabet rando inside rando 4

[shrewd meadow]

@tulip narwhal Flog

[hallow solar]

it’s on lumafly, just search up alphabet rando

[wispy sky]

compatible with normal rando or is normal item rando with it

[hallow solar]

honestly i like this, it makes the letters actually have some use

it is a randomizer 4 add on

separate mod and it is found in the connections section

but not like enemy rando

[shrewd meadow]

bluppy I hit zombie slayer 6 are you proud of me

[fickle wraith]

good job

!

[shrewd meadow]

thank you

[fickle wraith]

iim trying to get eman slayer 7 but its so boring,

[shrewd meadow]

true

[subtle glacier]

i am so proud of throwout123

[tulip narwhal]

Can you gift me my dream game Counter Strike 2

[shrewd meadow]

bluppy carry me through eman 3 surely

[shrewd meadow]

thank you choombingy

[shrewd meadow]

no

[tulip narwhal]

Why not

[shrewd meadow]

because I don't know how to play that game

and therefore I cannot gift it

[tulip narwhal]

Oh ok

[shrewd meadow]

[tulip narwhal]

Can you gift me hollow knight

[shrewd meadow]

no

[tulip narwhal]

:(

[frozen storm]

I thought it was pretty good, I just finished watching it
I did a little research and apparently the manga is still ongoing, which gives me a lot of anxiety because I want to know how it ends, but overall, I think it's one of the best animes I have watched, just the ending that was a little bit empty

[fickle wraith]

i cant even do t4,s,,

[shrewd meadow]

but can you do t3 solo...

[fickle wraith]

yea

[frozen storm]

Hello everyone

[shrewd meadow]

so surely carry me

[fickle wraith]

i need to get a booster cookie,... so i have to farm,...

[shrewd meadow]

buhflipexplode

[frozen storm]

In Portuguese, you don't need to use the inverted question and exclamation marks, but otherwise, that's great Portuguese

I shouldn't have ignored the message to finish watching the anime though... Sorry about that

I'd recommend watching it, imo it's better than bocchi (don't let melone see this)

[hazy trellis]

I can’t even heal during ANY of these bossfights

[frozen storm]

What are you struggling with?

[hazy trellis]

Broken Vessel.

But I just beat it

It feels like every boss I fight has like no wondow to sit and hold the heal button

[frozen storm]

Hmm

[wispy sky]

HOLY SHIT

MOTHWING CLOAK AT KINGS PASS

[frozen storm]

#randomizer /j

[frozen storm]

Not even in staggers?

[wispy sky]

DREAMER AT KINGS PASS

[hazy trellis]

What is that?

[frozen storm]

When the boss decides to take a nap

[wispy sky]

very inspiring elderbug thank you

[hazy trellis]

ALSO I LOVE IMPOSSIBLE REACTION TIMES THANKS ||LOST KIN||

[frozen storm]

Everything is manageable, just relax

It'll become muscle memory

Also, I shall advise you that this channel is spoiler-full

So if you care about being spoiled, leaving is a good option

#hk-help is spoiler free

[wispy sky]

DREAM NAIL FROM MAWLEK

[frozen storm]

Nicee

[obtuse brook]

https://tenor.com/view/geo-hollow-knight-broke-money-sly-gif-10828656542191289634

[wispy sky]

NMG FOR 0

no narts yet tho

SECOND DREAMER

[coral marlin]

Man, 4 hours and no response on the modding help question

Damn

[coral marlin]

Truly the best gif of all time

[obtuse brook]

[sleek kelp]

WHO WOULD WIN:
THE F___I NG SUN!
Or a small guy with horns

[coral marlin]

Secret third option: Evil and intimidating horse

[lilac knot]

Im about to sleep

[obtuse brook]

P.E.K.K.A Level 17

[frozen storm]

Floggy?

[lilac knot]

who

who is floggy

[coral marlin]

The evil and intimidating horse
Everybody knows the evil and intimidating horse

[frozen storm]

You'll know when it's the right time

[lilac knot]

what does that mean

[frozen storm]

Just be patient, he shall reveal himself when it's time

[lilac knot]

should i look this up

Answer me

i gotta sleep so should i

[frozen storm]

Google will not give you an answer

Only he shall do it

And remember his words

"Vinilona sansuy"

[lilac knot]

WHat are you saying

when will he come to me

will he be in my dream tonight

answer me please

someone explain

please

[winged spear]

[wispy willow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/lightning-cat-wet-kitty-owl-amXyv44wzXihXdflFH

[coral marlin]

Hi

Why is the cat being struck by lightning

[winged spear]

it's training to become the new flash

[obtuse brook]

🙂

Her name is Shira

Exactly

Thanks

[spice bobcat]

If Isma's Tear had a combat perk, however niche (at least Crystal Dash allows Ghost to somewhat cling to a wall a la Ascendant's Grip), I would what it would've been. After Focusing, bask in the warm waters of the boiling acid to regenerate 33 Soul...?

Meh. Not really an organic mechanic.

[frozen storm]

Holy
Shit

That cat is the cutest thing I've ever seen

Yiddash be careful

[spice bobcat]

Hornet calls the protagonist "Ghost". It's metaphorical, but it rolls off the tongue better than "The Knight" especially when there are tons of knights across media.

[frozen storm]

I might kidnap her

[spice bobcat]

But I digress.

Isma's Tear is just entirely a contextual key.

[foggy sable]

It has a use on overworld and attuned uumuu perhaps

[spice bobcat]

As mentioned, Crystal Dash can at least be used to cling onto walls, if still with a descent.

[frozen storm]

Cdash deals damage

So it's the best thing

[nocturne knot]

infused conductive stuff into the cat for more power

[storm bolt]

only 10 tho

never worth it

[spice bobcat]

How many a time can Crystal Dash even deal DMG without having the player slam into an enemy hitbox?

Besides Nailsmith?

[frozen storm]

Wdym

10 is basically nail damage

[spice bobcat]

I... already mentioned that.

[frozen storm]

Just divided by 3 (2)

But who cares

[spice bobcat]

Again, we digress.

[storm bolt]

imagine charging it in combat and lure the enemy close to you lol

[spice bobcat]

What aid could have Isma's Tear provided as a combat tool?

[hollow nova]

awesomespore?

[nocturne knot]

i gotta try
give me a good build

[frozen storm]

Yeah it'd be so peak...

But now seriously

[forest mantle]

I FINALLY BEAT WATCHER KNIGHTS WITH OLD NAIL

[frozen storm]

Cdash would be cool af if it dealt 100 damage

(crystal only)

[forest mantle]

TIME FOR THE LAST DREAMER HERRAH

[frozen storm]

And you would need dfocus

But imagine

[storm bolt]

ehhh still not worth it imo

[vale condor]

https://youtu.be/Ip517HKs5Po?t=3752 depends on how much fun you like to have :) (This does not work on latest patch but is too funny for me to not mention)

[forest mantle]

And i forgor to fight mantises lol

[frozen storm]

But it'd be cool

I didn't say useful

Example

[storm bolt]

having to slot in dfocus isn't cool

[frozen storm]

Sharp shadow

[frozen storm]

It is

Its extremely cool

You don't see the vision

[storm bolt]

would cdash be good if it give a little i-frame during the dash?

just a little i-frame

[copper spruce]

No

[forest mantle]

Desolate dive better for i frames

[frozen storm]

How many seconds

[forest mantle]

Fire pfp btw literally lol

[copper spruce]

Why

[storm bolt]

a lil longer than shade cloak i suppose?

[frozen storm]

Wait this would be cool if it was a sharp shadow sinergy

Also quick focus should definitely make cdash charge faster

[storm bolt]

but ddark is still better for i-frames imo

[frozen storm]

Like .6 seconds would be too long?

[storm bolt]

easier to use

[frozen storm]

That's more than ddark

[storm bolt]

ddark is easier to use and deal actual dmg

[frozen storm]

I always thought that qfocus did that

I'm not kidding

It makes so much sense

[copper spruce]

best ideas for HK charms would be to make shaman stone 0 notches

[frozen storm]

The description too

[tropic skiff]

Charm: Quick Focus

A charm containing a crystal lens.

Increases the speed of focusing SOUL, allowing the bearer to heal damage faster.

@gui_semnomecriativo used /charms category: L-W charm: Quick Focus

[frozen storm]

Maybe the Portuguese version was ambiguous idk

[storm bolt]

make unb strength more interesting instead of just flat dmg increase would be cool

[frozen storm]

Nart damage increase

[storm bolt]

at least with shaman it encourages you to use more spells, which in turn make you better at utilizing them in combat

[frozen storm]

That'd be so op

[storm bolt]

nart+strength+fury

[foggy sable]

I just want 140 damage nail arts

It would be so balanced

[frozen storm]

Who doesn't

[storm bolt]

that's more than shriek with shaman:)

balanced indeed

[frozen storm]

It'd be as balanced as the second game

[copper spruce]

Elegy should work on narts

[frozen hull]

Fire is Neverstone good

[formal ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-yippee-gif-yippee-cat-gif-12933084691297211872

[storm bolt]

cyclone with elegy would be interesting

[wind garnet]

someone used strength buffs narts and submitted for a any rad clear list addition

[formal ridge]

haiiii chaaaat

[nocturne knot]

managed to hit without trading once
can i give me kingsoul with debug or something?

[copper spruce]

Depends tbh
If you need a super buffed cat for a house boss sure

[formal ridge]

are you

[frozen storm]

Yes

[nocturne knot]

just trying to see how bad it is

[foggy sable]

hiiiiii

[formal ridge]

how nice

[formal ridge]

:333333

[zealous skiff]

I mean does it make that much of a difference for anyrad loke 😭

[foggy sable]

That sounds allowed

[zealous skiff]

Same same smh

More legit than lqs

[wind garnet]

still not allowed (and hit dmg indictations)

lol

[frozen storm]

The only bosses I'd not allow myself to use ksoul are rad, absrad, sob and wosk

[zealous skiff]

Bruh, well they basically did anyrad so they will be able to reclear it quickly

[wind garnet]

it was for a higher difficulty clear

so rippp

[earnest geode]

I BEAT BROKEN VESSELLLl

FINALLY

[wind garnet]

reminds me of my ascended clear

[frozen storm]

Ggs

[earnest geode]

I HATE THE FUCKING

[storm bolt]

ggs

[earnest geode]

BALLOONS

I HATE THEM

I HOPE WHOEVER MADE HIM SUMMON THOSE STUB THEIR TOE

I HOPE WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THAT

[nocturne knot]

is it this? wont break if i have void heart?

[wind garnet]

i died in final with a hitless first phase i got so mad i just chilled in bed for like an hour got back up and next run did hitless to climb and cleared

[earnest geode]

STUBS THEIR TOE

i beat him by desolate diving him 3 times during his last outbreak attack lol

[wind garnet]

then had a heart attack when i thought my audio wasnt recording

[earnest geode]

CAN'T SPELL BROKEN VESSEL WITHOUT L

[wind garnet]

2 more days for day 900 ❤️

[storm bolt]

ah yes you will absolutely love lost kin

[earnest geode]

i already tried lost kin

IT'S HELL

[frozen storm]

No

Change voidheart to 3

That allows kingsoul

To be added to your inventory

I'm proud of myself for finding it out on my own

[earnest geode]

bro i accidentally stumbled across nosk yesterday holy fuck

[nocturne knot]

what are you answering with the no?

[earnest geode]

my exact words during the cutscene "another me? OH WHAT THE FUCK"

[frozen storm]

It's not that setting

It's on the charm settings iirc

[nocturne knot]

that is the charms settings

[frozen storm]

H

M

I don't remember

Is it in abilities perhaps

[earnest geode]

also i play on ps5 is it easier or harder

[frozen storm]

Iirc it's on the same tab with Grimmkid

[forest mantle]

Mantis lords with old nail defeated

[nocturne knot]

oh the top menu of charms

yeah this should be easy now

just very slow

[frozen storm]

Good night

I mean good luck

If you don't sleep

[nocturne knot]

that checks out
but yeah i aint doing this
im happy with this bad amount of damage i dealt

[frozen storm]

Torture

[polar iron]

Guys

Is it normal to have 5 charms 4 hours into your run

[nocturne knot]

yes?

[polar iron]

But also have mantis claw, dash, crystal dash, and monarch

[nocturne knot]

i can expect claw but all the way to monarch seems like you knew what to do

[polar iron]

Yea its my 2nd run

Already in edge

[nocturne knot]

yeah i see
then you are probably not getting charms cuz of focusing on other stuff

do you even got thorns of agony despite probably never going to use it?

[polar iron]

||(Those primal aspids should kill themselves)||

[polar iron]

No

I got it like super late game on my first run cause i didnt even know it existed

Lwk kinda useless

[earnest geode]

I HAD TO BEAT BROKEN VESSEL WITH A NAIL UPGRADED BY ONE 😭 SHARPENED NAIL

[polar iron]

Had to?

I chose to

Aint even hard

[storm bolt]

how is that a bad thing?

[polar iron]

On my first run though..

We dont talk about my first run

[nocturne knot]

grubfly doesnt hit when i already hit with normal nail isnt it?

[earnest geode]

59 hits 😭

[polar iron]

Funky friday ahh attacks

[polar iron]

Dude

Shaman carries

[nocturne knot]

i dont get the reference

[polar iron]

I only used shaman and crest

[polar iron]

Cause you going in all directions and the slashes look like the arrows from fnf

[nocturne knot]

oh
well face dancing is the best way to deal damage
and this mod kinda requires me to do so, wich meant i had to learn the strat

[frozen hull]

25 Shaman vengeful spirits

[orchid spoke]

i like cheese

[polar iron]

I hate myself

I forgot defeating bv turns crossroads infected

Fr

It used to be so peaceful

[copper spruce]

Ok

[honest shale]

no not ok

im in a shit class

[foggy sable]

Even more technically it is the trigger at the wings cutscene

Because wings in a rando won't cause infection if you pick them up somewhere random

Picking up dreamers does though so make of that what you will

[honest shale]

why cant anything in this game make sense

ntas

[zealous skiff]

You have the option to add duplicate items in randos to make them more bearable

[foggy sable]

I like to turn dupes off though

[compact wasp]

Morning yall

[hidden spire]

Morning !!

[foggy sable]

hiiii

[compact wasp]

Hiii grey

Hii fang

How are you doing

[hidden spire]

I'm doing OK wbuu

[compact wasp]

Really really happy

Because of reaching watchers yesterday

[foggy sable]

I'm fine, just getting ready for a class, getting to wk is nice

[fresh isle]

big

[tulip narwhal]

yo im farberg

[fresh isle]

hi farberg

floggy will u stream ranked matches in vc sometime..

[tulip narwhal]

I could do that

Im the worlds worst ranked player though

[fresh isle]

that's okay

[zealous skiff]

Guys he might be farberg

[kind rune]

bye farberg

[compact wasp]

that's great

[compact wasp]

and round

really round even

[tulip narwhal]

What the heck plasma

[blazing onyx]

I need a charm build for pure vessel and fast

[foggy sable]

Well if you want to be fast sharp shadow, dash master, and sprint master increase movement speed

[frozen hull]

Lmao

[strange viper]

Steady body and sprint master is underrated

With quickslash of course

[compact wasp]

actual evil

[foggy sable]

I merely did what was asked

[raw sonnet]

hi

[raw sonnet]

pure evil 💔

[foggy sable]

Perhaps

[coral marlin]

I'm gonna revisit my Switch 1 HK save. See how much I got done (most likely like 2 P5 bindings, sure as hell nothing more than P2AB)

Gotta wait for it to download first

[foggy sable]

If this course misses one more Oxford comma I will go insane

[coral marlin]

Also Sharp Shadow for speed does go kinda crazy

[foggy sable]

Like, you are a law unit please use the comma I beg

[coral marlin]

I do kinda vibe with getting upset over missing punctuation like that

[compact wasp]

you missed one there

(I had to do it. I am so sorry)

[coral marlin]

I was about to joke about doing P5AB on Joycons, then got like physically uncomfortable at the thought lol

[compact wasp]

an hour ofthat with sweat in yoru hands feels insane

[coral marlin]

My pro controller's responsiveness is lackluster due to all the Smash I've played with it

So fuckall if I'm using that lol

[coral marlin]

Truuuuue

(Seriously it does get uncomfortable)

Aight it's downloaded

Let's see how much I got here

(This isn't my OG Switch so who knows)

Godhome, 17 hours. Not too promising.

Charm build: Fury, Shaman, Quick Slash and Twister.

Not sure what the fuck I was fighting with that but ok.

....

Apparently I didn't feel like doing HoG, I literally ONLY have Ascended Massive Moss Charger

I had P1AB and.... nothing else.

I think I was just trying to get all Pantheons in All Bindings before even doing anything else.

Might've just stopped playing because of that.

I didn't even 112% this file, I'm missing 5 Charms

Wtf

[foggy sable]

I know

It was funny though

[coral marlin]

Wait, why do I have 10 notches

Wait 9 notches

Wtf

[compact wasp]

charms are useless anyway

just go and do p5 charmless frfr

[foggy sable]

True

[coral marlin]

Ohhhhhh wait

I have Old Nail

That makes so much more sense

I was doing AB only Old Nail

[compact wasp]

huh

[foggy sable]

Void spells?

[coral marlin]

That was kind of a big fixation of mine when I was running HK on Switch

[coral marlin]

Yeah I have the void spells but I specifically remember I restricted the use of all spells

Old Nail only AB Pantheons

[foggy sable]

How many did you do?

[coral marlin]

1 lmao

[compact wasp]

one

[coral marlin]

Never got P2 done apparently

And I remember never doing it

[foggy sable]

Makes sense, flukemarm exists

[compact wasp]

over estimated themselves so hard

[coral marlin]

Honestly 04 is way more appealing

[compact wasp]

flukemarm was so badly underestimated too

girl is a demon

[foggy sable]

My sole attempt at p042 was dead to flukemarm

[coral marlin]

I wasn't even IN this server back then

[foggy sable]

And I decided not worth

[coral marlin]

Then again I might've gotten flamed for running Switch HK at the time

[compact wasp]

i would have thrown you into the stove for like

[coral marlin]

So probably a good thing I didn't join until PS4 and laptop gaming

[compact wasp]

10 times per day

if I saw you doing that

[coral marlin]

Honestly based

Like I was poor

I think my sister bought me HK on Switch

[foggy sable]

Switch isn't that bad

Just a bit bad

[coral marlin]

Yeah

[compact wasp]

if a control scheme is actually just bad than others then it is not worth using imo

[coral marlin]

Like it is greatly exaggerated, but to the point where it's become a joke

[compact wasp]

all should be equal

switch is not equal

[gleaming summit]

Its good enough for hk/sk

[coral marlin]

If you use a pro controller, it's fine

[foggy sable]

I could do p5ab on it probably

[coral marlin]

Like I beat Radiant Radiance for the first time on Switch

[compact wasp]

ye but you are who you are

[coral marlin]

Twice actually

[jaunty dune]

Then if all should be equal everyone would jst get the better graphics

[compact wasp]

you can do p5ab on a dancepad

[jaunty dune]

They wouldn’t actually play on what they enjoy

[gleaming summit]

Same

[coral marlin]

If games are about graphics, games are dead

[compact wasp]

how did graphics come into play

I was talking about just movement

switch movement has always just felt so weird

[coral marlin]

Ykw fuck it, for old times sake
Old Nail Only p2AB

[compact wasp]

compared to pc or ps or xbox

[compact wasp]

one more death to flukemarm

[foggy sable]

Old nail only p5 is fun

It shows how good charms are

[coral marlin]

Oh God it's pre-patch, too

Xero spinning needle, how I've missed you

....

That's not spinning.

[compact wasp]

remember that dude in a stream we were watching who was saying shell binding is the hardest?

[coral marlin]

That's jittering.

Why is it jittering.

[foggy sable]

I do

[compact wasp]

completely forgetting charm binding exists?

or just greatly underestimating it

[foggy sable]

Charm binding is the hardest by far

[coral marlin]

Nevermind I'm fucking stupid, it's current patch

Switch 1's Xero's needles jitter instead of move around before going

[compact wasp]

just shaman stone

that alone is enough lol

[honest shale]

i havent played switch 1 in so long

[foggy sable]

Last time I did switch it was with someone at it was a pass the controller when you get hit

It is so fun

That was a while ago though

[coral marlin]

Fun fact, didn't even get past Xero lmao

Well that's enough of that

[foggy sable]

How do you die to P2 xero

[coral marlin]

Old Nail only AB

[compact wasp]

even then

[coral marlin]

Playing on Joycons

[compact wasp]

its xero in p2

[foggy sable]

Can't you heal or am I misremembering

[coral marlin]

Like half-locked in hunched over

[honest shale]

i plead the fifth

[compact wasp]

you can heal

[coral marlin]

I mean 2nd phase Xero doesn't offer much opportunity

[foggy sable]

Idk P2 anyway

[honest shale]

just go to the other side of the arena

its fucking massive

[coral marlin]

Deleting HK off my Switch because playing on Joycons after PS4 controller is not a good feeling

[foggy sable]

It isn't that bad

[coral marlin]

I know

[honest shale]

never talking to you again

[coral marlin]

I'm not saying it's horrendous, but it's just a bit uncomfortable

[coral marlin]

Nah that's fair

[foggy sable]

Playing kb is worse

[compact wasp]

i play kb

[foggy sable]

Switching to rather

[compact wasp]

yall ever get so bored of an exam that you don't want to write the answer even if you know them?

[coral marlin]

Not particularly write, but I did do the "guess randomly" strat on an English test because I was genuinely too bored to give a shit

I got like a 60% on that

I hate the fact that I know the specifics of how the duplication glitch works, meaning that I'm not aimlessly trying to duplicate the Charm notch without knowing how exactly it's failing

[keen thorn]

KB > Mobile > Steering wheel > Saxophone > Controller

[coral marlin]

Where does Guitar Hero Guitar fall into on that list

[keen thorn]

Between mobile and steering wheel

[coral marlin]

Fair

So how tf is mobile better than controller

[compact wasp]

you are my favourite person

[keen thorn]

The other two are memes but

[foggy sable]

This is why people like my good opinions and not your bad ones

[keen thorn]

I legit would rather play Minecraft mobile that controller, the only game that I have played on both

[keen thorn]

Sure ThornsOnlyCharmR5 < R5AB < R3 = P5AB = AnyRad 1.0 = F5 = R5 < R4 = RSoulSanctum < P4AB

[coral marlin]

...you're comparing a 3D sandbox to a 2D metroidvania in relation to a controller's functionality, my guy.

[foggy sable]

I dislike 3d games on controller

[keen thorn]

The only time I used controller on HK I died on King's Pass as an R5 victor so

[coral marlin]

Skill issue

[honest shale]

the fuck?

[compact wasp]

i did beat upto p4 with controller

it was..not fun

[foggy sable]

I've played hk on flight joystick

[compact wasp]

I mean yeah I got used to it, but I would rather pick keyboard

[foggy sable]

You just have skill issues

[honest shale]

thats just bcs you arent used to controller imo

[compact wasp]

ye that's just the learning curve

[coral marlin]

"She's playing on WHAT?!"

[foggy sable]

And Celeste on flight joystick

With the force feedback on

[keen thorn]

I have played some games on controller a lot
Specifically Ocarina of Time, Overcooked 2 and MC dungeons

[honest shale]

its fine when all you ever played were controller games for 6 years

[keen thorn]

The whole time even when used to I was just wishing I could use a keyboard and mouse

[coral marlin]

I feel.like Celeste on a flight joystick would actually be so enjoyable

[foggy sable]

I only did 100% though not 202

[keen thorn]

Oh also smash

Smash bros

[honest shale]

imo its no use arguing this shit its all opinion anyways

[keen thorn]

That's like, the game I wish I could just kb and mouse

[honest shale]

which smash?

[foggy sable]

It is

[compact wasp]

7C on a flight joystick

[keen thorn]

Idk some smash

[foggy sable]

I did that

[compact wasp]

that sounds interesting

[foggy sable]

It was funny

[honest shale]

bruh

[foggy sable]

Reverse hypers and stuff was much more chaotic

[coral marlin]

Now do 9D on a flight stick

[foggy sable]

I've not done any of the later d sides

brrr it is cold

[compact wasp]

grey can probably do 9d deathless

with practice

I think she would have the will for that

[foggy sable]

Isn't that run evil

[keen thorn]

I think my hate with controller just has to do with one thing
It's only your two thumbs controlling everything

[compact wasp]

the only platinum that has never been achieved

parrot has been trying since ages

[foggy sable]

I'm not really in the Celeste community anymore

[keen thorn]

One thumb controls movement in the joystick
Another controls the 4 buttons on the left
That's 8 buttons I'd be using 8 fingers on if I had a keyboard

[compact wasp]

but ye 9D deathless is a Tier X golden

Grandmaster heartside is Tier 0

[foggy sable]

Wasn't tier X removed when they reshuffled

[compact wasp]

idk I have been kinda out of the loop

but the point is

it is the hardest golden in the game

like by FAR

[keen thorn]

Also the joystick gives one finger your control
In 3D or even 2D with aim you have your whole hand with the mouse
In 2D you have still directions you can control easier with the different fingers

[compact wasp]

tbf that point has been mentioned a lot of times by speedrunners

so kb is just ultimately more precise

[foggy sable]

Oh, old 9d was done

[icy needle]

[foggy sable]

Idk what the difference is between old and new though

[honest shale]

i mean im not saying controller is the best or anything
it definitely has its faults
but i personally think placing it below guitar hero is a little much

[gleaming current]

Consistently beating this mf is so satisfying omd

[foggy sable]

god tamer is a rude fight

[honest shale]

with this treasure i summon

leon hk

[foggy sable]

I don't think it worked

[honest shale]

unfortunate

[foggy sable]

What are you doing anyway

Don't you have all pantheon bindings?

[honest shale]

im just going back and getting lifeblood on my 5 mask save

[foggy sable]

That would explain things

[gleaming current]

Ikr

Had to practice an entire day to beat her consistently

Unpopular opinion but this p3 fight is worse than nailsage sly

[copper spruce]

I hate stem cats

[honest shale]

very popular opinion

[frozen hull]

@copper spruce Do I take Tri-Attack or Hyper Beam?

[copper spruce]

What do either do

[honest shale]

what gen

[compact wasp]

grey how does the tracking in galien's sawblade even work?

when does it start tracking you?

[frozen hull]

Mewgenics

[foggy sable]

I don't really know

[honest shale]

Guh i thought it was pokemon 😭

[compact wasp]

i want to fake it out to make it do a U shape, but can't somehow

[foggy sable]

It tracks based on position and movement speed

[frozen hull]

At sign firered

[foggy sable]

But I don't know much else

[compact wasp]

1 nail damage galien perhaps?

[foggy sable]

I was working on it

(pb337)

[copper spruce]

Do you have any CC for hyper beam to be usable

[frozen hull]

Whazzat

[copper spruce]

Bounce shot, etc something to manipulate where enemies go

[foggy sable]

But that is all intuitive play rather than knowing

[frozen hull]

Tank

[copper spruce]

Hyper beam then

Should be good on bosses too since most of them take up more than 1 tile

I don't like elemental stuff much

[frozen hull]

⁉️

[copper spruce]

What

[frozen hull]

Why

[noble ruin]

What

[foggy sable]

When

[gleaming summit]

Where

[noble ruin]

Who

[honest shale]

how

[gleaming summit]

Magik

[honest shale]

what

[noble ruin]

What

[gleaming summit]

Magik

[honest shale]

We’re going crazy i swear

[gleaming summit]

https://tenor.com/view/default-dance-fortnite-jonesy-gif-15544813113505236864

[thorn ruin]

Huh

[gleaming summit]

Magik

[honest shale]

@miderators spam

[noble ruin]

At mids

[honest shale]

i hate that this is the only original joke ive made on this server

[gleaming summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-13074825429999900101

[noble ruin]

Be better

[honest shale]

no

[jaunty dune]

What joke

[honest shale]

@mids

[jaunty dune]

What?

Where’s the joke?

[honest shale]

thats the joke

[jaunty dune]

Oh

Bc they’re mid

[frozen hull]

Calling mods mid

[jaunty dune]

Mods are mid

[honest shale]

im so creative ik

[jaunty dune]

Except gwnj

[copper spruce]

they're kinda weak

[honest shale]

hk gen bias

[gleaming current]

Getting myself to 2 masks cuz of this guy and getting spanked by hornet

[jaunty dune]

She’s the only one I can talk to

[gleaming current]

Need to find a way to do this guy hitless

[honest shale]

talk in any other fucking chat i swear

[copper spruce]

@frozen hull Stem cat moment

[jaunty dune]

I’ve been to every channel

[frozen hull]

But Blizzard

[jaunty dune]

Every other mod is jst mid

[copper spruce]

Mid

[frozen hull]

LMAO

[copper spruce]

this is only round 3

[honest shale]

cuh the mods arent talking on the server 24/7

[jaunty dune]

Most of them don’t but they’re not rlly that great

Most ppl in the server are mid too 😭❤️‍🩹

[gleaming current]

💔

Will assume that includes me

[honest shale]

understatement of the year

[frozen hull]

Am I mid

[zinc iris]

Nah ur a chud

[frozen hull]

Is this the truthest nuke of all time

[gleaming current]

Wtf is this silksong discussion channel tho

They discusseverything except silksong

[zinc iris]

Why wud we discuss hk

[frozen hull]

Truth Nuke

[honest shale]

everyone is

[frozen hull]

https://tenor.com/view/piss-nuke-piss-nuke-tutorial-truth-nuke-true-true-morgan-freeman-gif-1990497734463688507

[honest shale]

oh right mb i forgot

[noble ruin]

You're like 7/10 when the average is 5 you're like .5 above mid

[gleaming current]

Ye mr connor is da real goat

[noble ruin]

Dark souls more like kind souls

[foggy sable]

Fire alarm in the middle of a class this is inconvenient

[frozen hull]

I know what the original text is and it's golden

[foggy sable]

Well the evacuate alarm anyway

[noble ruin]

What

[frozen hull]

Piss

[foggy sable]

It is just alarm sounds and "evacuate now"

[frozen hull]

LMAO

[foggy sable]

I'm outside now though so can't hear it that well

[compact wasp]

why do I keep dashing into bosses all of a sudden

[noble ruin]

What

[gleaming current]

Same

[compact wasp]

literally the dumbest way to fail

[gleaming current]

I fell into collector and died 💔

[gleaming current]

Frfr

[foggy sable]

Why is it cold out here

[honest shale]

god help my fucking school gc

[gleaming current]

Where ?

[frozen hull]

[honest shale]

the ignored messages are two people

[foggy sable]

Outside

[frozen hull]

That sounds so fun

[compact wasp]

i feel like I should just stop even aiming for r5. Just turn on shell binding overcharmed, and do runs regardless of caring about getting hit. Then one day it will be hitless

[shrewd nymph]

A school gc on discord??

[foggy sable]

That seems like a bad idea

[copper spruce]

I hate the throbbing king

[gleaming summit]

🙏 bruh

[honest shale]

why the fuck not

[shrewd nymph]

eh

[compact wasp]

nepal changed governments through discord. school is just beginner stuff atp

[honest shale]

i didnt make the decision

[gleaming current]

Its hot as fuck here where I live tho

[noble ruin]

Yep

[shrewd nymph]

Im more interested in how many people use the same acc for gaming as school

[foggy sable]

It is like, 13 degrees

[compact wasp]

cuz I think this isn't even something worth aiming or targetting. It will just..happen

on its own

some day

[gleaming current]

37 here

[honest shale]

by school i just mean the students
none of the teachers are actually there

[gleaming current]

Unofficial schl server

[shrewd nymph]

yh i assumed so

[gleaming current]

Everyone has that

[shrewd nymph]

Crazy concept to me

Friends and the whole grade are different

i do have an irl discord acc though but its besides the point

i use insta for my grades gc

[honest shale]

i mean my grade is just like 40 ppl who all are decently close

[shrewd nymph]

oh okay thats not so crazy theb

[foggy sable]

I wonder when the class will resume

[shrewd nymph]

40 is quite small

Yh we're about 150 iirc

[foggy sable]

It is fringe benefits tax so I did enjoy learning about it, it would be a shame to miss half the class

[gleaming current]

That's high af

I am in 12th and we have 67 students

[frozen hull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1429873974367490048/1486669626464276611/togif.gif

[noble ruin]

At mids

[foggy sable]

There are just several hundred people here standing around now it is weird

[gleaming current]

I saw ts coming 💔 🙏

[lapis musk]

im among them

[foggy sable]

No actually

[lapis musk]

holy niche you know ball

[gleaming current]

Ye

[honest shale]

i mean probably
i just go to a christian private school in like the least christian part of this city

[gleaming current]

Whenever someone compares him to taylor swift it pmo ngl

[lapis musk]

silly comparisons

[gleaming current]

Real

Even futures music is better than taylor swift 💔 🙏

Mj is another league

Also the only guy eminem lost a beef to was mj btw

Agreed

Eminem dissed him in one of his songs

You can search it

[copper spruce]

@frozen hull I got one hell of a sniper

[coral marlin]

Can someone please tell me why, when I dash, I carry the Abyss Shriek hitbox with me, thereby pulling Soul Warrior towards me, ending my Fury P1 Speedrun?

[gleaming current]

Real

I am a huge eminem fan but that shit is one of the things done by him that I honestly didn't like

[gleaming current]

What game is dat ???

[copper spruce]

Mewgenics

[gleaming current]

Neverland ryt ?

[frozen hull]

[gleaming current]

Yeah

[honest shale]

wait mj died before i was born

wtf

[gleaming current]

How old you ?

[honest shale]

14

[gleaming current]

Yeah

Its goated

[gleaming current]

I am 3 yrs older than you

[honest shale]

not neccesarily

[gleaming current]

I had a 2010s childhood but I enjoyed 70s-2000s music more ngl

[honest shale]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-factory-you-will-never-find-another-store-shelf-a-bunch-of-buzz-lightyears-gif-21719996

[gleaming current]

2020s is the shittiest decade for music imo

[keen saffron]

how old

[gleaming current]

As a hip hop fan the only rlly good albums I can remember from this decade are the forever story and fall off prolly

[honest shale]

iirc 23

[keen saffron]

alright i guess i'm younger

[gleaming current]

I see

[keen saffron]

i had the craziest idea, but i'd need a few days to practice

[gleaming current]

The best hip hop album I have listened to till day remains madvillainy

That shit was a 10/10

[keen saffron]

mf doom is pretty chill yeah

[gleaming current]

Yeah

[keen saffron]

since this is the HK discussion chat

i was thinking of playing through the entire game with the old nail, 5 masks and 0 charms

then doing the pantheons with that

can't wait to suffer!

[lapis musk]

sounds splendid

[honest shale]

i mean we do anything but discuss hk atp

[keen saffron]

also i'm pretty sure if you do all bindings with the old nail the damage goes from 5 to 4

[lapis musk]

correct

[keen saffron]

will probably take me a few days or a few weeks

but whatever its worth it

i mean if im going to do this i can stream it

[gleaming current]

So you want to suffer ryt ?

[lapis musk]

the whole difficulty will come from p5 and colo 3

[keen saffron]

yes

[lapis musk]

the rest is comparatively negligible

[keen saffron]

you see my biggest issue with HK is being patient

[gleaming current]

There used to be a invincibility glitch as far as I remember

[honest shale]

“nkg was a hard boss in p5ab”

[gleaming current]

Was it patched

[keen saffron]

idk i tried once, collector is a bitch

that one is the worst if you do p5ab

[lapis musk]

one of

[lapis musk]

nkg, pv, absrad and MAYBE markoth

[coral marlin]

Didn't connect with the platform 3 times in a row on AbsRad climb. Love that. In speedkills.

[gleaming current]

I am feeling so tempted to call this mf the n word but js can't here

[honest shale]

i did not realise you were there for that

[lapis musk]

i wasnt iirc

[honest shale]

unless its a lot more common than i think

[keen saffron]

i still dont know how i did radiant markoth

[lapis musk]

but ive seen it happen many times now

[keen saffron]

thats probably the best ive done until i beat abs rad on radiant today

[lapis musk]

name change time

ggs

[keen saffron]

No no no

as in

i'm going to beat her today

i know i can do it

[lapis musk]

ohhh

yeah no u got that in the bag

[keen saffron]

i mean i can consistently reach her final phase

i just fuck up the last part when i have to pogo on her and get the orbs off screen

[lapis musk]

there are other strategies than pogoing

[gleaming current]

This server really makes me feel like a noob despite having 110+ hours 💔

[keen saffron]

so that's why i'm practicing on attuned with the charms i have in order to get that straight

[lapis musk]

but uh make sure you start final phase with a shriek in every strat tbh

(on the left plat ofc)

[keen saffron]

goodnight

[lapis musk]

gn twin

[gleaming current]

Gn

[lapis musk]

hop on coconut sim tmrw

[keen saffron]

let me think, i also make stupid mistakes like accidentally walking into a beam or orb

[honest shale]

i can do that more
https://youtu.be/Rc4tNpiBO-Q

[keen saffron]

radiant pure vessel with old nail is fine, its just a longer fight

which is exactly why it's hard for me because i'm not patient enough for that

[gleaming current]

Its noon here

[shrewd nymph]

jokes

[honest shale]

im aware im bad at the game ok

[shrewd nymph]

im messing with you dw

rono is sick

[keen saffron]

your name says you've done p5 all bindings

and you say you're bad at the game?

[gleaming current]

Fuck you

[keen saffron]

unless p5eb means something else

[gleaming current]

🙏

[lapis musk]

imposter syndrome

[shrewd nymph]

every binding means not all at once

[keen saffron]

oh

[honest shale]

i have not in fact done that

[keen saffron]

oh i see

excuse me i'm stupid at times

[shrewd nymph]

still incredibly impressive but all hk players have confidence issues

[keen saffron]

thought that meant all at once lmao

i still dont think im good despite radiant markoth

[shrewd nymph]

thats ab

[keen saffron]

idk how i managed

[shrewd nymph]

@ greyfire

[gleaming current]

Still feels like a piece of shit after beating the main game

[keen saffron]

okay fuck it i'm bored of constantly retrying absolute radiance on radiant

[honest shale]

i mean when i spend all my time around ppl who have done shit like r5 its bound to happen

[keen saffron]

i'm going to start a new game

[lapis musk]

eh

[keen saffron]

no upgrades

[lapis musk]

but also like the good players are gonna be active

kinda like survivorship bias

[copper spruce]

who is rono

[keen saffron]

idk i dont like saying that i'm good at HK because i genuinely think i'm not

[gleaming summit]

Hehe
Deepnest

[shrewd nymph]

there is no objective threshold

just not smt to worry about tbh

theres always someone better

[honest shale]

idk i found him on the side of the road and forced him to do pv

/j

[coral marlin]

Got an AbsRad time of 56.67. The disappointment of not having new PBs is setting in now

[shrewd nymph]

67

Sorry.

[keen saffron]

speaking of PBs i did the path of pain in 6-8 minutes i kinda forgot to pay attention to the time

[honest shale]

oh abt that

[coral marlin]

Nah honestly fair tho

[keen saffron]

still not fast enough but you know

[coral marlin]

Lmao

[shrewd nymph]

holy pattern recognition

[gleaming current]

https://tenor.com/view/vigilanteskass-gif-12238985672618509371

[keen saffron]

if i fumble it takes me 11 minutes

[shrewd nymph]

wtf goated

[coral marlin]

Like 67 has progressed to a point where you can joke about it ironically now

[honest shale]

am i missing smth

[keen saffron]

is it

[shrewd nymph]

im saying pattern recognition of the 67

[keen saffron]

i don't know how fast that is

[honest shale]

absolutely holy

[gleaming summit]

.....
Hey mind if i intall this realy cool mod-

[shrewd nymph]

imo yeah lol

[honest shale]

oh i thought i missed a loss or smth

[shrewd nymph]

i dont leave godhome but ik for a fact that thats still a good time

[keen saffron]

path of pain is pretty fun, i used no charms

well except for mark of pride

but i really hate that charm idk why that was equipped

[gleaming current]

Void heart ?

[keen saffron]

i usually do path of pain without anything not even hiveblood because i don't need them

mark of pride

[gleaming current]

Ohh

[compact wasp]

done with one shell binding run

[coral marlin]

Fun fact, if I was just 3.03 seconds faster with that climb, I would've had a PB by 10 milliseconds

[compact wasp]

hey there lune

[gleaming current]

Js made it through the entire P3 but got spanked by hornet

[shrewd nymph]

yo

[keen saffron]

fuck it im going to do path of pain again

[gleaming current]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-hurts-gif-12096381820083648834

[keen saffron]

lets see how fast i get it this time

[compact wasp]

how are ya doing

[shrewd nymph]

Good, protein maxxing w chicken tenders rn and had no school today

hbu

[coral marlin]

Genuinely forgot Hornet 2 was in P3

[honest shale]

”if i was faster my time would be better”

[compact wasp]

just decided to drop actual r5 for a bit, and just started doing only shell bindings overcharmed runs

[coral marlin]

Ykw fair

[compact wasp]

I need to probably be able to beat that like its free until I do r5

[copper spruce]

Hollow knight fans when you tell them you play the game

[coral marlin]

You know it's raining outside when you go outside and it's raining

[gleaming current]

I am pretty good at that fight but I die cuz uumuu leaves me at 2 or 1 mask

[shrewd nymph]

oh yeah gl w that

[gleaming current]

I blow myself up

[compact wasp]

i have done it twice by now

[keen saffron]

hk is the only proper game i've gotten all the achievements for

[compact wasp]

but will do it probably 8 more times

[keen saffron]

i got really hyped at beating pantheon 5 lmao

[shrewd nymph]

10 times 😭

[gleaming current]

Do blasphemous

Ezier than hk

[keen saffron]

good game

i havent finished it

[compact wasp]

honestly though, I am not used to struggling anymore lol

it feels good to actually have a challenge for once in this game

[shrewd nymph]

Its nice to find a sweet spot of difficulty and absurdity

[compact wasp]

yeah

[gleaming current]

In the canon ending isidora is hard and in the bad ending crisanta

[compact wasp]

and shell binding also just forces consistency of the first 2 pantheons

by a lot

[gleaming current]

Isidora is like the nkg of blasphemous

[coral marlin]

Hold up, I SWEAR AbsRad is cheating here
That ball did a complete 180

[compact wasp]

so it will just make you eliminate the early game slump anyway

so it is just good practice

[coral marlin]

NO DEADASS

THAT BALL LITERALLY STOPPED AND WENT THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE DIRECTION

[honest shale]

no yeah that happens

[compact wasp]

also side note

[zealous skiff]

Clip

[coral marlin]

That shit is a boomerang, not a fuckin Cogfly

[compact wasp]

still can't fucking believe I have p5ab

I will die on that hill

anyways

[honest shale]

how did you not know this

[gleaming current]

Holy glitch I am flying now

[coral marlin]

My guy, I don't study the mechanics of the bosses I fight, I just fight them

And sometimes study them if it's AB related

Like come on you expect me, a speedkiller, to be smart?

[honest shale]

no like how did this not occur even one time before

[agile pewter]

I uhhh

Im not sure thats the best way to go about it

[coral marlin]

Well I mean it has

I just didn't take the time to confirm it

[honest shale]

you say to the other speedkiller

[gleaming current]

Do you spam quick slash on the bosses 💔 🙏

[coral marlin]

Yeah honestly

My ADHD won't allow me to do any smart shit though

Like research

[honest shale]

rip

[coral marlin]

Even if it's for something as insignificant as this

[gleaming current]

You can't kill shit like god tamer or sly with that playstyle tho

[coral marlin]

...my guy, you clearly have not played enough to know that you can do that.

[gleaming current]

Idk

[honest shale]

last i checked (like yesterday) this video had one view
who the fuck went back, found the link, and watched the video

[gleaming current]

I js know that I felt like fucking Thanos when I got unbr strength and quick slash for the first time

[coral marlin]

When you master the arts of Steady Body, Quick Slash and Mark of Pride, everything clicks.

[gleaming current]

I love steady body

Underrated charm

Makes so many boss fights ez

[coral marlin]

Almost managed to get P4 Nail Only Radiant the other day. I forgot what ended that run.

Markoth went down easy.

[honest shale]

[gleaming current]

P4 markoth has a floor at least

So he is ez