#hk-discussion

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vernal knot
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Why did Light Black do that to ya

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Blacker White Wym

lofty coral
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I’m like hella tired mb yall ✌️

vernal knot
foggy sable
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wait you've seen this right

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a new victim perhaps

vernal knot
honest shale
lofty coral
honest shale
lofty coral
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As I know of

vernal knot
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GrayInferno how do you find Sheo that Enjoyable

foggy sable
vernal knot
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How do you Find HIVE KNIGHT that enjoyable lacestare

foggy sable
lofty coral
vernal knot
foggy sable
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hive knight is great

lofty coral
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Like for the life of me I could NOT find Galien

foggy sable
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galien is so bad

lofty coral
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idk why autocorrect has to correct EVERYTHING

lofty coral
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💔

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I forgot I left Minecraft running 😔

compact wasp
foggy sable
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yes

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it was lower

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but doing nail only challenges it was okay

honest shale
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nosk below wosk is crazy work

foggy sable
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it is the truth I think

strange viper
compact wasp
foggy sable
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I like markoth in p5

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and i don't mind pv I just don't find it interesting like all of the other fights I put as average

vernal knot
foggy sable
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yes

compact wasp
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zote is fun now tbh

wanton loom
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zote was just kinda annoying when radianting him

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i couldnt deal with those exploding face things for a while

foggy sable
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zote is in a weird spot because i don't like the fight in pantheons

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but do like zote challenges

strange viper
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guys am i bad or is pv just that way

honest shale
foggy sable
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pv is sort of difficult so

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you will struggle until you learn it

honest shale
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also why are you asking the elite if a vanilla boss is hard
you are very likely to get told p5ab isnt hard tbh

foggy sable
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only by mean people

honest shale
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so like 20% of the server?

foggy sable
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yes

honest shale
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that’s a lot of people telling you that you’re actually just bad

foggy sable
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and those people should be ignored

honest shale
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and is someone asking if smth is hard gonna do that?

foggy sable
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"is (x thing) difficult" can be responded to without being rude

honest shale
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i agree
however are the people asking this question generally going to ignore the rude people?

dark steppe
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@tulip narwhal im playing celeste again

foggy sable
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they should

dark steppe
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im kinda done with league for now and league time is gona become celeste time

honest shale
foggy sable
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idk you should ask them

honest shale
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fair enough

tulip narwhal
dark steppe
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ive been playing run for freedom again

tulip narwhal
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Glgl

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You should play hardlist maps

sick heath
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Poncho doesn't deserve to feel joy

strange viper
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oh nevermind i was just bad

honest shale
sick heath
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Oh no he had a kid and they look exactly the samewai

tough cedar
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rah I made it to zote with 5 masks ab but accidentally walked into an explosionnn

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rip that run

honest shale
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p3ab or p5ab?

tough cedar
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I don't have quite the patience for p5 yet

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nor the skill

honest shale
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well gl anyways

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zote was the last boss that gave me trouble in p3ab

tough cedar
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p3 has so many rng monsters

honest shale
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elaborate

tough cedar
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hive knight's bee swarm is difficult to evade, collector can spawn 2 aspids 30 miles apart from each other, elder hu can give me that one attack with the pancakes successively going down multiple times in a row, zote is zote, and galien is just chucking their scythe wherever

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the scythe has no conception of physics I swear

foggy sable
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galien sucks

tough cedar
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in theory the fight is easy, just upslash and shriek, but it's difficult to keep track of galien, his scythe, and his two smaller scythes

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and then once I reach zote my lifeblood is gone

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is p4 easier than p3

honest shale
tough cedar
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which one

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galien?

honest shale
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hive knight bees are random to a degree but it shouldnt affect how you dodge them

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collector spawns and galien’s movement are just straight bullshit tho

compact wasp
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I managed to get a 6 hit p5

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fucking finally some progress

tough cedar
honest shale
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elder hu and zote are actually pretty fair fights

tough cedar
honest shale
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massive difference

compact wasp
honest shale
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no

compact wasp
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Ye that makes sense

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But ye elder hu is not hard

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At all

honest shale
tawdry bolt
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I always feel like an idiot when I take damage from elder hu

tough cedar
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real

sick heath
tough cedar
inner flicker
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Plans for tomorrow :
wake up
Eat
School
P1ab
Any% >5 hrs
Sleep

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I have simple plans

thorn parrot
honest shale
inner flicker
inner flicker
honest shale
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fair enough

inner flicker
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Unlimited bacon with no games
I’ll just watch people play instead and I can eat bacon while I watch
Amazing question from Schlatt once again

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Games, unlimited games, but no games just cancels itself out

honest shale
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…its a reference

inner flicker
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Ik

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Schlatt

thorn parrot
compact wasp
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..so this will sound dumb., but apparently the answer to all bosses in hk and silksong is just not get hit

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but i mean that in complete seriousness

inner flicker
honest shale
compact wasp
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yes

inner flicker
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Dear god

fiery trench
compact wasp
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no like I am being completely serious

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I was overcomplicating it

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thinking "do this, do that" but no just don't get hit and the rest happens on its own.

wispy sky
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NO

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I WAS A FEW HITS AWAY FROM ASC ABSRAD

inner flicker
honest shale
tropic nest
compact wasp
inner flicker
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But I can usually restrategize or something like that, can’t find the words for it

compact wasp
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playing like this is so calming wtf

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it really is that simple

inner flicker
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Who are you fighting

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Unless it’s in Silksong then don’t say

compact wasp
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radiant absolute radiance

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which was easier than I thought

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I mean I have done her a lot

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but even on ascended

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idk when it happened but I started treating hk like a dps race

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its just not that at all

inner flicker
wanton loom
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rad absrad was kinda hard at first and even now im inconsistent

foggy sable
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full equipment encourages dps racing enemies

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even in hitless

inner flicker
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Sometimes you have to play it safe

foggy sable
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it is why ab is so good

compact wasp
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yeah. Playing when the main objective is just not get hit is much more rewarding

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this is surprisingly soothing though

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not stressed at all

wispy sky
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bro

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absrad legit just hit me with nothing

inner flicker
wispy sky
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there WAS but it had clearly already disappeared

tropic nest
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hitbox lingers

inner flicker
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The hitbox can persist after it’s fully gone

wispy sky
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thats stupid

compact wasp
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that was fixed in recent patch

inner flicker
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Quite

compact wasp
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unless you are using modded hk which means you had to downpatch

inner flicker
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Actually I probably won’t do the speedrun tomorrow since I won’t have as much time
I’ll just keep doing godseeker

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I’ll try my damndest to make sure I don’t die to oro and mato again

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I also wanna tackle P3ab soon
I’ll practice charmless radiant hive knight and sly
As well as nosk, can’t be too risky
Oh shit and gpz too

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Isn’t collector in P3

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Well it won’t matter since I one shot his minions actually…

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I can’t exactly practice in that way

gilded eagle
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ok what the hell is this eternal ordeal thingy

inner flicker
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Huh

compact wasp
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and toggleable bindings

gilded eagle
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the hidden challenge in the hall of gods

inner flicker
compact wasp
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but p3 collector is not that bad

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its just cyclone slash and ddark victim

inner flicker
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Woah spoilers for me

gilded eagle
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oh sorry

inner flicker
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Is that for doing atthog

tawdry bolt
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another failed attempt of r1ab thanks to oro and mato yay

gilded eagle
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worse soundtrack ever

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nah u can find it as soon as u get in

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is a breakable wall

inner flicker
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Oh

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Where

compact wasp
inner flicker
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Which room has the breakable wall

gilded eagle
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give me a sec

foggy sable
gilded eagle
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just hit up and u break the wall

compact wasp
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idk why itemless even exists

inner flicker
# gilded eagle

What the actual fuck
Team cherry
Stop hiding your secret rooms like this

gilded eagle
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yeah

inner flicker
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It’s actually just pissing me off atp

gilded eagle
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worse soundtrack ever too

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so lower ur volume before attempting it

inner flicker
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HOW WAS ANYONE MEANT TO FIGURE THAT OUT BY THEMSELF

gilded eagle
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by it showing up on yt short lol

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only way I knew about it

compact wasp
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me like to jump

inner flicker
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Wtf…
This game continues to surprise me with new rooms I didn’t know existed

gilded eagle
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it has unique enemies in it too btw

inner flicker
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Bruh ok

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I’m getting on that tomorrow

gilded eagle
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try it and tell me what u think of it

inner flicker
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I mean if you’re chatting at the same time as me because I’m likely gonna forget grubsad

gilded eagle
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all good lol

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All I wanted to know about is if it really was an eternal arena

inner flicker
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Ok I’m schleeb now

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Gn

gilded eagle
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gn

compact wasp
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wait actually nvm gn

gilded eagle
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christ this thing is worse than cancer

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the soundtrack is really making my ears bleed

gleaming summit
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Wat soundtrack?

tawdry bolt
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zote singing

gilded eagle
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the one from the eternal ordeal

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it was funny at first but I cant lock in

gleaming summit
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Turn of music

sick heath
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Surprisingly easy

wispy sky
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YES

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I BEAT ASC ABSRAD

wanton loom
bitter jolt
bitter jolt
bitter jolt
eager briar
wanton loom
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w

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ive had nitro for 4 years

zenith lark
wanton loom
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i need my 500mb upload size

bitter jolt
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why

wanton loom
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cuz i send a lot of large files over discord

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cuz its easy to get stuff from my phone to my pc and if i cant send stuff in between then its just more of a hassle

bitter jolt
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ah i see

bitter jolt
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hi genio hru

wanton loom
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first decent pv ive had in a while
i still need to improve big time though

gilded eagle
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is it me or is this a still image with audio?

sick heath
west wren
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This fatass

wind garnet
wanton loom
wind garnet
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pv attempted to parry but you staggered him in time

honest shale
wanton loom
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i knew hed stagger soon so i forced through it

inner flicker
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I lied I will never sleep

wind garnet
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so for now your next thing is to practice right facing shriek

wanton loom
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alr

wind garnet
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when you face right you can shriek through parry

wanton loom
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ive shrieked through it before but i didnt know when to do it

wind garnet
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yep

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thats how you do it

wanton loom
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so i just turn right and shriek

wind garnet
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yes

wanton loom
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got it

wind garnet
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you cannot move during the shriek tho

wanton loom
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yeah with pillars i like to make sure i wont die to the pillar before shrieking

wind garnet
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i know you physically dont but you can turn left or right during the cast

keen thorn
bitter jolt
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W good to hear

wanton loom
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yeah i cant tell if i turn around while casting

wind garnet
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i think you can visually tell but maybe not i forget

wanton loom
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welp ill try to figure this out

inner flicker
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Ok bye

wind garnet
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this is where you should be looking to get

wanton loom
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ok so if youre just right in general and not looking away from him

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alright i understand it now

wind garnet
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just to make sure you understand it

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it doesnt matter if hes on your left or right

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its what direction the knight is facing

wanton loom
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got it

bitter jolt
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either that or i got very lucky

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probably the latter lol

wind garnet
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lucky ngl

bitter jolt
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lol yea

wind garnet
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i only say that cuz you werent supposed to dodge like that lol

bitter jolt
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the orb dodge was lucky

wind garnet
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and you went further away which couldve been free damage during sword burst

bitter jolt
wind garnet
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i dont think orbs was that lucky

wind garnet
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wanna see a crazy orbs

bitter jolt
bitter jolt
wind garnet
bitter jolt
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yeah now that i looked back at it dashing towarsd the edge was also a misplay, thx for advice gleeful

wind garnet
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this one felt dynamic

bitter jolt
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lmaooo wtf

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holy crap

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your reaction time and quick thinking there was insane

wind garnet
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when you play as many fast paced games like me i can see things clearly

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with a bit of luck cant lie blep

bitter jolt
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lol

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yeah lucky orb spawns but it's still insane lol

wind garnet
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thats why i love 2.0 theres a lot of movement which opens up crazy dodges no matter what situation ur in

bitter jolt
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yeah ikr

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except half the time im not recording blep

wind garnet
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smh

agile pewter
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L Boss

idle belfryBOT
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@sick heath tails

sick heath
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Rigged

agile pewter
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🇱

sick heath
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Truly

idle belfryBOT
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@honest shale heads

honest shale
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yay

bitter jolt
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whats the default keybind for warp in benchwarp

compact wasp
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F5

bitter jolt
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ohk thx

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it doesn't work wtf

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can you change it

compact wasp
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hmm not sure

zealous skiff
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@tulip narwhal

tulip narwhal
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@zealous skiff

zealous skiff
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Hoppity

tulip narwhal
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Not rn I think

zealous skiff
sick heath
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Shit I am running low on E.G.O cratespalehmm

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Only got 700 left

tough cedar
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Is this 2.0

wind garnet
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yes

obtuse brook
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But at least the prices of games went down

sick heath
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Better then nothing i guesstamershrug

honest shale
steel slate
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should console be able to apply mods?

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it doesn’t seem too far-fetched for ps5 and Xbox

sick heath
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A big issue with that is that modders would need to make so their mods work on console

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And mods support is often not supported by the game but something else

rare aurora
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pilot, sailor etc all do the same thing as well

obtuse brook
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The price of the Switch 2 will go up on September 1, 2026. You still have time to buy it, haha.

rare aurora
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the switch 2 has been a bad deal since release don’t buy it lol

obtuse brook
compact wasp
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Nintendo in general has been for a while tbh

compact wasp
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Atp its just choosing the lesser evil

obtuse brook
worthy peak
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The wiki is telling me that fury gives elegy a 50% damage buff. Can anyone confirm or deny cause that seems weird and unlikely

compact wasp
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Why are all companies obsessed with becoming public companies?

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And ruining themselves

rare aurora
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money

compact wasp
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This really is a dystopia

rare aurora
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late stage capitalism 🥳

obtuse brook
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NINTENDO
GIVE ME LUIGI'S MANSION 4 THIS YEAR AND I'LL FORGIVE YOU FOR EVERYTHING!!!

worthy peak
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No... Don't give them an easy way to escape hate...

quartz cave
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I LOVE CAPITALISM ❤️😍

obtuse brook
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A guy can dream

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SUPER MARIO GALAXY 3 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

rare aurora
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nothing can make me buy any of their products

obtuse brook
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So don't be surprised if they announce a new game in six hours fleasip

molten yoke
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@foggy sable haiiii

thorn ruin
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@quartz cave

quartz cave
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@thorn ruin gm

thorn ruin
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gm

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you woke up early today

obtuse brook
fossil island
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wai

dense fjord
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But i dont really want to

honest shale
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it was not worth it

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their entire market relies on nostalgia of when they made good products

vestal sky
tough cedar
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omgomgomgomg I just made it past zote p3ab ffor the first time

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who's next, uumuu?

gloomy scarab
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Theyre falible from a pro-consumer standpoint, not as a developer

honest shale
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im definitely cherry picking here but pokemon has been very ass recently

gloomy scarab
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Gamefreak has its claws in there

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Internally Nintendo has A teams and B teams. Pokemon isn’t even developed by a Nintendo team because why would they really need to, people keep buying the games apparently

honest shale
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fair

gloomy scarab
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I think they suck ASS at remakes though

tough cedar
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bleh

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I died to hornet 2

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Completely forgot she existed in the pantheons

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dashed right into her and died

bitter jolt
tough cedar
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ah well I'll get back to her

bitter jolt
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you got this

tough cedar
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in the meantime I guess I should do a couple more practice runs with hornet and sly

tough cedar
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well hornet was no problem to take out

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probably just nerves that killed me then

wanton loom
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radianting hornet sentinel actually took way longer than i thought it would

bitter jolt
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bruh i nearly did 2 hit ground then fumbled 2 hits in sword rain 😭

tough cedar
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which boss?

bitter jolt
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2.0

tough cedar
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ah

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how unfair of a fight is it

bitter jolt
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i mean its not that bad once you learn it

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you can get screwed over pretty bad in ground but you only really need to dodge one or two attacks in baldur clear

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you can facetank the rest given you can get past sword rain hitless semiconsistently

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you can facetank every attack in a cfm clear for ground 😭

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plats is hard but learnable and pretty fair imo

honest shale
bitter jolt
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oh wait climb i forgot

tough cedar
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how about ascension?

honest shale
bitter jolt
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baldur clear its not so bad, cfm clear youre just praying you get good rng

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the main strat for climb is to get out of plats with as much hp as possible lmao

tough cedar
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do you still have baldur intact by the time you get to climb?

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or would it all be used facetanking the first phase

bitter jolt
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you should

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you should not be using baldur to face tank first phase

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you literally cant too, hitting heal pixel is nearly impossible

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well i mean you can get it semi consistent but you won't deal damage

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cos youre all the one on one side of the screen

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i believe its best to use 1 baldur charge max during sword rain if bad rng, but preferably none, so you can use 2 charges in plats and you want to leave 2 for climb

wary perch
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hi guys

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How's everyone's day been so far

bitter jolt
bitter jolt
wary perch
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kinda eh, trying to cope with burnout and be a functional human while not imploding

gloomy scarab
raw sonnet
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I found someone larping radhog

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💔

gloomy scarab
bitter jolt
raw sonnet
bitter jolt
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wait where you there for that incident lol

bitter jolt
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i mean yeah its not rare but its still a good achievement

gloomy scarab
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Pre radhog it’s a crazy feat post radhog it’s “yeah this shit is slop but at least AR was hard to radiant”

gloomy scarab
wary perch
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Ya

gloomy scarab
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Ya

wary perch
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Alr

gloomy scarab
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And that’s assuming you use radhog as an excuse to practice for p5

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If you just try for medals then you’re using some scuffed hyper specific overcharm build for each boss

bitter jolt
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why would you do radhog before p5 blep

digital grove
bitter jolt
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hi @digital grove

digital grove
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hiii

bitter jolt
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hru

digital grove
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im beign bullied in a vc but its ok im too powerful to be taken down ❤️

bitter jolt
delicate jackal
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oh okay

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thank you AmberHeart

bitter jolt
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you need to spoiler the image though

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hold on @delicate jackal do you have mods installed?

delicate jackal
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i used to, yeah

bitter jolt
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oh you have to downpatch

gloomy scarab
bitter jolt
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right click hk in steam > properties >versions and betas > previous version

bitter jolt
fallow grotto
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icl

gloomy scarab
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Yeah but dying mid or late pantheon 5 sucks ass and you avoid that by getting better at the bosses

delicate jackal
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oh my god i love you

gloomy scarab
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Maybe it’s overkill for markoth galien and obbles or something

bitter jolt
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ascended hall of gods is more than enough

gloomy scarab
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To reasonably win once attuned is more than enough yeah

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But the jump from ascended to radiant is not large for most of the hard fights

bitter jolt
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i mean to reasonably beat it consistent

fallow grotto
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consistency 🤯

bitter jolt
gloomy scarab
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The difference is referring to player expectation

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If you can beat attuned you can definitely beat radiant

bitter jolt
gloomy scarab
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The exception to this for most people is markoth and radiance

bitter jolt
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theoretically you can beat anything

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but you're not pouring 50 hours into a boss for prep to do something much easier

gloomy scarab
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No, the point is that attuned forces you to learn patterns well enough that you can functionally radiant anyways

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Why the fuck would anyone 50 hour a boss

fallow grotto
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why u people argue subjective things 🧐

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so interesting 😂

noble ruin
bitter jolt
gloomy scarab
bitter jolt
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a lot of people facetank on attuned bosses

noble ruin
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Facetanking is silly

fallow grotto
noble ruin
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You can facetank like 80-90% of bosses

bitter jolt
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imo it's at about ascended for harder bosses where you have to learn attack patters

gloomy scarab
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Yes ascended is about where you learn to radiant lol

bitter jolt
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OH lol

fallow grotto
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Facetanking is silly

gloomy scarab
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You’ll often have your first ascended clear be an accidental radiant clear

fallow grotto
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You can facetank like 80-90% of bosses

noble ruin
bitter jolt
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maybe with some of the double damage bosses yea

noble ruin
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It's pretty silly

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You can facetank like 80-90% of bosses

bitter jolt
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also like you CAN radiant but imo if you just want the achievement radhog is overkill

gloomy scarab
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80% of the bosses were underpowered 30 hours before you entered godhome

fallow grotto
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it is pretty silly

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You can facetank like 80-90% of bosses

gloomy scarab
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Like yeah no individual boss is worth a damn. Pantheons need to bulk sell to be engaging

noble ruin
gloomy scarab
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I want bindings in silksong man…

noble ruin
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I'd say it's around 80-90% of bosses

bitter jolt
fallow grotto
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like 80-90% of bosses

noble ruin
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Like

gloomy scarab
noble ruin
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89% of bosses

bitter jolt
gloomy scarab
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It’s also still stupid to do mid pantheon. You can keep that soul for later.

bitter jolt
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stalwart shell*

gloomy scarab
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Quickfocus is more in line with that strategy

bitter jolt
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also dont shit on baldur shell baldur shell goated

foggy sable
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it is, of course, not

bitter jolt
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hi grey grubomg

foggy sable
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hi end

bitter jolt
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also why are we spreading misinformation smh

noble ruin
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Baldur shell is so fricking peak

gloomy scarab
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10 bosses 4 baldur pops 2 notches

foggy sable
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it has one use, in terribly made boss fights

gloomy scarab
#

It’s officially meta

noble ruin
#

No one cares about pantheons

gloomy scarab
#

Yeah that’s what I said

bitter jolt
#

exactly

noble ruin
#

I wonder how skong will do pantheons with tool refills

bitter jolt
foggy sable
#

the notoriously fun anybad of course

bitter jolt
#

yes

noble ruin
bitter jolt
#

it was also useful for rbinfnomt^3 but yea

noble ruin
#

It's like a near instatrigger almost no soul cost 4 use shield that gives a ton of I frames

bitter jolt
#

instatrigger 😭 i wish

foggy sable
#

not worth when you have other sources of i frames though

gloomy scarab
#

That one was the outdated one pretend it doesn’t exist.

foggy sable
#

I have considered taking it for absrad when I do r5 nail only though

hollow urchin
gloomy scarab
noble ruin
hollow urchin
noble ruin
#

Its extremely good

gloomy scarab
foggy sable
#

but like, one vanilla boss in a restricted challenge run does not make a good charm

noble ruin
#

Yes but I've used it for other bosses and it works just as well

foggy sable
#

and if you have to start justifying it being good through mods then that also is a bad argument

agile shell
foggy sable
bitter jolt
agile shell
#

But valid list

noble ruin
#

Crazy autocorrect

bitter jolt
noble ruin
#

Steady body also isn't very skill based you just kinda hold forward and attack

foggy sable
noble ruin
#

Fluke marm should be in the skill blocked tier

bitter jolt
gloomy scarab
# agile shell Personally i would put sharp shadows in green

Sharp shadow can provide one of two things. A longer shade dash, or a non boosted nail hit on aggressive shade dashes. Neither of these things is ever strong, only the dash length is ever situationally useful.
In most cases and in the hands of a skilled player, sharp shadow is a less effective defensive AND offensive iframe tool for bossfights.

bitter jolt
noble ruin
#

And those are both very niche things that 99% of steady body users arent doing

gloomy scarab
noble ruin
#

It's nice for boss fights too imo

gloomy scarab
bitter jolt
#

i just died to climb bruh

noble ruin
#

It might be over for you

agile shell
noble ruin
#

Should've used Baldur smh

bitter jolt
bitter jolt
gloomy scarab
#

It’s just fine.

worthy peak
#

upslash exists y'know

noble ruin
#

I can't rly think of a good charm for those two masks fights other than steady body that is one notch

bitter jolt
noble ruin
gloomy scarab
noble ruin
#

Bosses other than absrad exist

gloomy scarab
#

As a “I have one notch left so I guess” charm yeah it’s between steady body and gsong. Dream wielder is busted but you need to be lame to use it

noble ruin
bitter jolt
#

also i know its not that great for newer players but saying its not very skill based is insane

noble ruin
#

Those are very high skill level things that steady body makes easier

#

It is not a high skill thing to benefit heavily from steady body

bitter jolt
#

even for new players steady body is pretty good, because of the bosses that take a lot of knockback

noble ruin
#

You can say Quickslash should be there too then cause it's necessary for those turnaround cancels

gloomy scarab
#

I’d say unlearning the fact you have no knockback is a skill check

bitter jolt
#

you can say every charm is not very skill based cos you could do charmless

noble ruin
#

It took me like 20 mins on my first playthrough

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And I was half way through rad hog

gloomy scarab
#

And again, it’s competing with other charms not just 1 notches

noble ruin
#

Quickslash has the exact same arguments you just made for steady body

gloomy scarab
#

In general I think steady body needs active player decisionmaking to gain value

noble ruin
#

It's even more necessary for face dancing and turnarounds

worthy peak
#

solution. no-one use steadybody.

noble ruin
#

Every grounded kB enemy or boss dies much faster

gloomy scarab
bitter jolt
#

not for the arguments but i mean like saying somethinig is not skill based because it makes fights easier

gloomy scarab
#

All charms have some sort of skill expression, obviously

bitter jolt
#

shaman is not very skill based because it makes your spells deal more damage

#

quick focus is not very skill based because you can just learn more heal windows

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strength is not very useful because you could just not die

gloomy scarab
#

but like, it’s clear when a charm is relying on player engagement or a change in player behavior to provide the main bonus effect

worthy peak
# noble ruin Strength?

learning hits to kill enemies and how it changes... gives options to choose to get an extra hit cause boss will die before enmy attack comes out.
Also in absrrad learning No of hits before the annoying teleport.

gloomy scarab
#

One shot thresholds for minion summons. Doing the math internally to decide whether you want to use strength or quickslash for a boss based on if you do lots of 1-hits or a few combo strings

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Or you can do what everyone else does and just use both Qslash and strength

noble ruin
gloomy scarab
#

Outside of radiants strength and qslash are nearly always together

noble ruin
worthy peak
bitter jolt
#

"how is dealing damage a skillful thing"

gloomy scarab
#

Qslash is better for spell builds cause faster soul gain with similar dps increase and all that

noble ruin
noble ruin
worthy peak
#

if its a primal aspid i can change how i behave cause i know it will die from one hit.

worthy peak
gloomy scarab
#

Planning around a 1 shot is different than planning around a 2 shot. I feel like this is just the semantics of “skill based”. The point that tier in the tierlist makes is that the charms in that tier are exceptionally reliant on a change in player behavior to be worth their notches

worthy peak
#

They are all like there so you need lesss skill

bitter jolt
noble ruin
#

We just talked about how steady body enables higher skill play

#

Strength doesn't do that in any way at all

bitter jolt
#

by saying how is dealing more damage a skillful thing

gloomy scarab
#

I think strength does not require a change in player behavior to be significantly more useful, or to be worth its notches

noble ruin
#

I'm saying using strength takes zero skill

bitter jolt
gloomy scarab
noble ruin
agile pewter
bitter jolt
noble ruin
#

Gm leon

noble ruin
bitter jolt
agile pewter
#

haii talez grubnote

noble ruin
#

Shade soul double hits from shaman stone change the way you interact with the boss much more significantly than just a 50% damage boost

bitter jolt
#

hm true

gloomy scarab
bitter jolt
#

anyways this is a stupid argument imma go back to hollow knight

noble ruin
#

Like standing on top middle platform in absrad and using shade soul when absrad is on the edges gives you crazy high dps

#

Not a possible Strat without shamn stone

bitter jolt
noble ruin
gloomy scarab
#

If you aim for the eyes

noble ruin
bitter jolt
#

without oops*

noble ruin
#

You can't from that spot

bitter jolt
#

anyways as i said this is stupid and the argument isn't exactly going anywhere either

agile pewter
gloomy scarab
#

I’d also like to note that damage increases aren’t inherently “not skillful” just because they’re strong. There’s a reason passive charms are still popular despite being worse for certain playstyles - people need to actually take advantage of the opportunity cost

gloomy scarab
#

It’s possible to suck enough to need Quickfocus more than you want strength.

#

But I don’t think we’re ready for that conversation

foggy sable
#

giving free damage on absrad is no more skillful than making collector easier though

worthy peak
# noble ruin You can't from that spot

okay i dont understand how it making it easier to double hit like that is more skillful at all. all the previous ways of hitting double hits still work

gloomy scarab
wind garnet
#

grey

foggy sable
#

like oh wow look more openings which require no skill to exploit, woww how skillful

wind garnet
#

i cleared 2.0 on stream

#

very nervy susc

noble ruin
agile pewter
foggy sable
gloomy scarab
#

Passive stat changes are still better/worse based on player competency and playstyle choice

wind garnet
#

true

#

im on clovers side byee

noble ruin
#

Sure I just think it varies heavily and there are clearly more extreme ends of the spectrum like flukes vs strength

gloomy scarab
noble ruin
#

Gn suscar

gloomy scarab
noble ruin
#

Anyway I was just saying this whole thing cause I think flukenest requires way more skill to use at all effectively compared to steady body that's all

gloomy scarab
#

I hate Flukenest

foggy sable
#

flukenest got nerfed though

gloomy scarab
#

Like on paper it should be down 4 tiers

#

In practice it’s one of the top two yeah

noble ruin
compact wasp
foggy sable
#

as far as I know the lingering hitboxes got fixed

noble ruin
#

Cause flukenest for setting up damage during downtime is still good and I doubt would be changed

compact wasp
gloomy scarab
#

This is why we hate Flukenest

agile pewter
noble ruin
#

Flukes would still be used for pantheon speedruns even without lingering hitboxes

agile pewter
gloomy scarab
#

Yeah it’s a dreamshield situation right

compact wasp
#

can someone tell me the name of the randomizer mod btw

gloomy scarab
#

Dps is dps

zinc iris
#

?tag randomiser

noble ruin
#

It's used over shaman stone iirc so not rly

idle belfryBOT
#

dynoError No tag randomiser found.

noble ruin
#

It's the ability to set up damage while the boss is doing a phase change or is off screen

noble ruin
#

No other charm allows that iirc

#

Ig like glowing womb kinda but

#

Very small amount of damage in comparison

gloomy scarab
#

tldr drain the soul bar without missing

noble ruin
#

Fury strength quickslash has higher dps no?

gloomy scarab
#

I guess it doesn’t while considering phases

noble ruin
#

Wha wdym

gloomy scarab
#

you tell me, I thought you meant that fluke was still being used for speedruns

noble ruin
#

Flukes are used with fury quickslash strength

#

Flukes for when they're offscreen or invulnerable, nail spam for dps

gloomy scarab
#

that adds up to me

noble ruin
#

Yeah I'm just wondering what you mean by chaining shrieks on paper

gloomy scarab
#

The “most damage” you can do with your soul is to chain shrieks or land perfect shade soul multis

noble ruin
#

Oh yeah

gloomy scarab
#

Dps is measured across time, not total damage. Thus consistently dealing reasonable damage (essentially anything more than 1 shade soul) with your soul bar, and keeping your soul bar near empty, is ideal

frozen storm
#

Hello guys, I am sorry for what I said yesterday (or today depending on your timezone), I meant it as a joke, but I was extremely wrong for making jokes with that, I won't try explaining myself to not escalate things further, I hope you all can forgive me

gloomy scarab
#

The way chat rooms work is that anybody can be active them at a given point in time, including people who you weren’t talking to

#

tldr: what are you talking about we just met u

frozen storm
#

Well I said some shit yesterday that I'm not proud of

frozen storm
compact wasp
#

did something happen?

frozen storm
frozen storm
worthy peak
frozen storm
dusky bloom
noble ruin
#

Well multihits too

#

But that's just a side affect that only happens sometimes

frozen storm
#

Multi hits don't work on some bosses I think

#

Only bosses that take knockback I think

#

Emphasis on I think

dusky bloom
#

Multi hits work on any boss that moves

frozen storm
#

Fluke multi hits I mean

dusky bloom
empty lynx
#

flukenest on its own is just double the damage of shade soul as is

frozen storm
#

I think they're easier to hit on knockback bosses

empty lynx
#

multi hits are just a very fucky side effect

frozen storm
empty lynx
#

7 pm

noble ruin
frozen storm
empty lynx
#

I know right

dusky bloom
noble ruin
#

The main advantage is that it can set up damage while the boss isnt able to be hit

#

So you're not wasting any time

empty lynx
#

Lucky son of a bitch

dusky bloom
frozen storm
dusky bloom
#

It's terrible don't do it

frozen storm
#

Damn it I don't have perms

#

This sucks

dusky bloom
frozen storm
#

I said 11:00 that should be pretty clear

dusky bloom
#

So he's a night owl that sleeps 16 hours?

empty lynx
#

that sometimes happens

frozen storm
empty lynx
#

Most of the time i just sleep like 3 hours before lectures and such

#

Which is like 12 pm

frozen storm
empty lynx
#

i agree

frozen storm
#

Force yourself to sleep at 22:00

#

And wake up at 06:00

#

I do that

empty lynx
#

I try

#

too much work

frozen storm
#

Well

worthy peak
#

@bitter jolt i made a mistake thought we were talking about absrad for a second...

frozen storm
#

Try putting your phone away

empty lynx
#

nooooo

frozen storm
empty lynx
#

: (

#

But i just started nine sols : (

frozen storm
#

Sleep at night

#

It'll make you healthier

empty lynx
#

but i have exams and not enough time

#

i have to sleep less to play more and still study

frozen storm
#

Do you have a course or something extracurricular?

#

I know you're homeschooled or something like that iirc

#

Idk how that works

empty lynx
#

we have both school and classes outside of school

frozen storm
#

Should be better than Brazil

#

At least you don't have your curriculum teaching you that AI art is real art

empty lynx
#

not quite the main exams are only 30% of our grade

frozen storm
frozen storm
#

The world is ending

empty lynx
#

issue is almost everyone ik in real life is obsessed with making ai shit even teachers

#

dude have you seen egypt's facebook it's actual ass

raw sonnet
#

Hallo

worthy peak
#

sorry for you guys...

empty lynx
#

hia

frozen storm
#

At least here people are too dumb to use artificial intelligence

empty lynx
#

Which may or may not be making my grade tank alot of hits but yknow

frozen storm
empty lynx
#

good question i have to pick that before sunday

frozen storm
#

What do you like doing?

empty lynx
#

it's not really a question of what i like doing it's moreso what's best now

#

So probably just going mathematics

frozen storm
#

That'd be medicine or something like that

#

Or psychology

#

Those give money

native epoch
#

uh what does the saxophone mean

frozen storm
empty lynx
native epoch
frozen storm
frozen storm
#

I was just joking

empty lynx
#

Issue is i can't go medicine that shit needs like. 20k$ to start with

frozen storm
#

What even is the picture in the first place

empty lynx
#

actually hold on iam too illiterate to speak about this

native epoch
frozen storm
#

I'm praying I get a scholarship for architecture

frozen storm
empty lynx
frozen storm
#

Iirc it's not medicine

empty lynx
#

I might worry about this later iam too illiterate

empty lynx
frozen storm
frozen storm
#

Just work on one

empty lynx
#

I don't 100% know what iam talking about so do expect me to be typing shit

frozen storm
#

There's no problem in not knowing

#

At least you're recognizing it

#

Which is amazing

empty lynx
#

I still have yet to discuss this with my parents anyway

frozen storm
#

I already settled down on architecture

empty lynx
#

It'd most likely be easier considering they are teachers themselves so they'd probably know better

frozen storm
#

I wanna work with construction

#

And math

frozen storm
#

It's miserable

empty lynx
#

Oh i know that for sure

frozen storm
empty lynx
#

it's been doing my uncle real good it even got him out of egypt

#

Which on it's own is like r5ab difficulty

arctic monolith
#

Teachers are bassically safricing themselves for the next generation

empty lynx
frozen storm
#

I wish teachers actually got a good salary

empty lynx
#

It just sucks

frozen storm
#

This generation doesn't want to do labor work

#

And when the demand is high

#

The prices are too

empty lynx
#

yep

#

But honestly it'd probably be best i make a decision of getting out of egypt first

#

apparently it's alot more comfortable in countries like saudi arabia compared to egypt

frozen storm
#

Europe is always an option

#

But I've heard they're extremely xenophobic

empty lynx
#

I ain't dealing with allat iam hardly fluent in arabic

frozen storm
#

And the language barrier exist

frozen storm
empty lynx
#

I can

#

issue is i still have to think of what i say and how i will say it before i say it

#

and i still have a problem with saying weird words so

frozen storm
#

We should vc to practice our English fr

#

Now right now because I don't have perms and it's 06:37

ebon depot
#

:q!

#

oh shit omegamarmu this is why you dont have discord on the other monitor open while in vim smh

winter agate
#

Apprently, Hollow Khight muscle memory is like riding a bike
you dont forget it for life
I haven't played in a year
yet i remembered those bosses patterns like second nature
i even made it passed the sheer bull crap that is P5 Markoth
someone i only beat once prior
boss music even still triggers my anxiety like it used too

#

i just beat nkg second try

#

i love how this implies my subconcious never stopped relaying the boss patterns to itself

rare aurora
ebon depot
#

most have plugins( or just use nvim native smh )

#

join the cult, write configs for 20 hours trust, its worth it

rare aurora
#

i do like my autocompletion..

#

i've just been using vscode with vim motions but it's not ideal for tex editing

winter agate
#

was it worth it?

wanton loom
#

did markoth again only to get radhog and never did it again

#

i basically started clawing at my face thats how bad it got

#

i could not cope

#

and then i beat it and then i was happy i could never see his face again

ebon depot
ebon depot
noble ruin
#

Gn yato

winter agate
frozen storm
#

When yato talks here, I just want to yank my brain off and throw it away

wanton loom
#

dude i literally sat back in my chair and was just grinning ear to ear for like 5 minutes

frozen storm
#

I don't understand a single thing that he talks about

ebon depot
ebon depot
frozen storm
#

Makes Sense

ebon depot
frozen storm
#

It definitely is niche

ebon depot
#

grubomg thank you, linux has been a corner-stone of my interest in cs so i definitely want to give back to the community in some ways some day

compact wasp
#

yee I hope you can

raw sonnet
#

Hallo

formal ridge
#

hallo everynan

vapid sandal
#

where can i find skins? like grub skin

vapid sandal
formal ridge
#

yo

vapid sandal
formal ridge
#

like a mod

vapid sandal
#

there is a grub skin you can have if you download custom knight mod

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and it led me to the discord

formal ridge
vapid sandal
#

ok

raw sonnet
formal ridge
#

yoyo

vestal sky
# vapid sandal where can i find skins? like grub skin
vapid sandal
vestal sky
vapid sandal
#

ok

sick heath
#

shit isn't even hard mode😭

#

killed like my whole team in one attack

frozen storm
idle belfryBOT
#

Custom Knight

This is the mod for reskinning things in the game

Resources

Common issues

  • If the Skin List is covering up other mods, you can toggle it with Del or Fn+Del. You can edit this Keybind in the Custom Knight menu.
  • If your skin doesn’t show up in the menu, ensure that you extracted it from the zip/rar/etc it came in (tutorial: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1207486627124093019/1403869873192571024/i.png).
  • If your skin doesn’t work, go to Options > Mods > Custom Knight > Advanced > Fix My Skins. After this you may need to click Reload in the previous menu.
    • Upgraded Dream Shield (UDS) breaks Custom Knight’s first launch. To use both mods at once: disable UDS, open a save with only Custom Knight and wait until it stops lagging. You can then close the game and enable UDS again.
  • If you see White Boxes ◻️, restart your game. You may also need to apply skins in a small room like a stag station.
  • Ensure that you apply skins from the Pause Menu when your save file is loaded. Skins applied from the Main Menu only affect new files.

Troubleshooting

If your problem isn't fixed from the Common Issues section, create a post in #1057825333841240104
You must include a screenshot that shows:

  • Where you installed the skin
  • With the directory bar visible
  • With the skin images visible
  • Example:
vapid sandal
#

ok found it =)

#

is there a full version of grub with up and down slash?

worthy peak
#

okay... how does grubberfly's damage work with fury cause i dont entirely trust the wiki.

foggy sable
#

I thought it is just half of nail damage after all applied buffs

worthy peak
foggy sable
#

but idk I don't use elegy

#

you can test with debug

#

just do one hit and see how much damage

worthy peak
#

yeh i suppose.

compact wasp
#

does anyone use elegy?

noble ruin
#

I loveeee elegy

foggy sable
#

I know someone was running nail only r5 including elegy

worthy peak
#

ive seen some videos using it with fury recently.

foggy sable
#

but idk if that panned out

compact wasp
#

there is a clear in the list with elegy on it

#

probably for markoth

molten yoke
foggy sable
#

hiiiiiii

#

hruuu

molten yoke
worthy peak
foggy sable
#

freezing because once again it didn't get above 15 degrees today...

foggy sable
#

just stick on longnail and nmg instead or something

naive dew
foggy sable
#

it is too cold

naive dew
#

@foggy sable

foggy sable
#

@naive dew