hk-discussion

[keen thorn]

Soul catcher is a 27% buff to both spells and healing
Spell twister is a 34% buff to only spells

[graceful storm]

u can still be knocked off

[silk beacon]

It would be good only if it cost 2 notches

[strong skiff]

Genio how do you buffbadlur shell to make it good

[tiny yoke]

https://youtu.be/ciguCY27hVo

[bold rose]

Explain yourself

[graceful storm]

-# burn the father feed the child

[copper spruce]

Make it kill the user

[red jungle]

NO

[arctic cobalt]

U said u use glowing womb buddy

[wooden egret]

I think we can all agree lifeblood heart is objectively useless

[silk beacon]

Wasting 2 notches for the absrad climb phase isn't worth it imo

[red jungle]

grim child is my son

[keen thorn]

Make a way to have it not be finite

[red jungle]

And Whats wrong with that

[tiny yoke]

it has negative aim bro

[strong skiff]

Like

[red jungle]

I love glowing womb

[keen thorn]

And also make focus not share a button with spells

[graceful storm]

joni's blessing is only useful to obtain lifeblood core

[red jungle]

It’s cute and suicidal

[arctic cobalt]

Bro...

[tiny yoke]

glowing womb is unquestionably the worst charm in the game bro

[red jungle]

What more could you want

[naive dew]

Im at school rn and im very boredom

[arctic cobalt]

This charm literally is worse than usuless

[keen thorn]

Prime 💀

[strong skiff]

Heloonee

[graceful storm]

lifeblood charms shouldnt exist

[storm bolt]

im starting to think that this guy is ragebaiting

[copper spruce]

@keen thorn Explode

[red jungle]

I’m not

[naive dew]

Hiii roma

[keen thorn]

Explode

[tiny yoke]

id rather have default loadout than midgame loadout with glowing womb

[graceful storm]

hi very boredom

[naive dew]

Helloma even

[arctic cobalt]

He failed tho

[red jungle]

I would’ve spent another 10 attempts on nosk if I didn’t have glowing womb

[strong skiff]

What if you successfully heal it recharges
Maybe not fully recharges but 2 or 3

[tiny yoke]

trust me ive been asking myself that for the past 2 months

[arctic cobalt]

Same

[storm bolt]

that's what they all say

[graceful storm]

@keen thorn explode

[wooden egret]

Nah we did

[silk beacon]

Focus on ur classes wot u doing here 😡

[tiny yoke]

@red jungle

[keen thorn]

I like it

[graceful storm]

should i use dashmaster on oblobbles?

[wooden egret]

Thats no radiance any more

[silk beacon]

Might work

[storm bolt]

no

[red jungle]

Just use abyss shriek spam

[copper spruce]

make it heal like masks
so 2 with deep focus

[silk beacon]

Sometimes they come down instead of going up

Idk how

[red jungle]

Then wait until it goes up

[graceful storm]

abyss shriek just knocks the oblobbles into me

[tiny yoke]

oh shit i gotta get to class

[silk beacon]

Ssoul 3x hit > abyss shriek

[storm bolt]

how?

[tiny yoke]

bai

[naive dew]

Lunch

[red jungle]

Are oblobbles the big bullet hell dudes in Colo 2

Bro

[graceful storm]

https://tenor.com/view/oblobble-hk-hollow-knight-gif-15465842215592862492

[red jungle]

How are you struggling on them

[tiny yoke]

once one dies the other gets buffed

[red jungle]

You just got under and spam abyss shriek

[red jungle]

Abyss shriek it

[graceful storm]

abyss shriek is fucking terrible on them

[silk beacon]

Crystal oblobles are easier than normal ones imo

[red jungle]

No it’s not

I’ve never had a problem with them

[bold rose]

Glowing womb is literally 32 soul ( a spell is 33 ) for 36 damage
Descending dark is 60 and abyss shriek is 80 per 1 spell.
Shade soul is 30 per hit

[graceful storm]

all abyss shriek does is barrel them into u

[storm bolt]

difficulty is subjective

[foggy sable]

shade soul is the best spell for them surely

[red jungle]

Abyss shriek shaman stone kills them in like 4-5 hits

[graceful storm]

yes

[red jungle]

It doesn’t

[graceful storm]

ive been at oblobbles for 2-3 hours

[foggy sable]

left vs right facing shriek...

[graceful storm]

i use abyss shriek and it just sends them down on me

[red jungle]

I’ve never died on Colo 2 to oblobbles

[graceful storm]

try them on radiant in hog

[keen thorn]

Explain it pls

[storm bolt]

the shriek pushes the obles away??

[red jungle]

Ok maybe radiant is different

[foggy sable]

fine

[silk beacon]

But it's risky cuz u r close to them

[graceful storm]

yes anything does

[bold rose]

I hate godtamer personally

[copper spruce]

is left vs right shriek like left vs right dive

[foggy sable]

Shrieking while facing left pushes enemies away on the horizontal plane, right facing shriek pulls them towards you on the horizontal plane

[storm bolt]

then how did it send them to you?

[graceful storm]

left vs right abyss shriek is just shade soul right?

[foggy sable]

are we happy now

[silk beacon]

Ai manip works on godtamer

[tiny yoke]

buddy you spent like 20 attempts on broken vessel 😭

[graceful storm]

bouncing off a wall or roof prob

[red jungle]

11 attempts*

[bold rose]

What is that

[tiny yoke]

thats not much better

[storm bolt]

i still dont see how that works tbh

[red jungle]

It’s a lot better than 20

[tiny yoke]

its still a lot worse than average

[graceful storm]

oblobbles now made me hate big balls

[bold rose]

Broken vessel was ez but i tried to do lost kin after wings ( MISTAKE )

[young light]

finished all of hollowknight time for silksong

[red jungle]

It’s cuz I didn’t have glowing womb :clueless:

[young light]

downloading!!!

[tiny yoke]

not even NKG took me 11 attempts

[graceful storm]

i hate big balls now

[red jungle]

Sybau

[young light]

1st atempt

[silk beacon]

Ai manipulation
Go to the far left
Let it roll towards u
Jump over it and go a little right
Hit it and go to extreme right side and repeat

[tiny yoke]

nkg took me like 7

[storm bolt]

lost kin is bv but like 13% harder

[copper spruce]

ah yes the wonders of Team Spaghetti

[silk beacon]

Or just pogo on it lol

[graceful storm]

only took me 4-5 cuz some of his attacks were still new to me

[tiny yoke]

lost kin ironically becomes pretty easy with defenders crest

[red jungle]

Next person to say broken vessel is easy gets shot in the face

[keen thorn]

@graceful storm @silk beacon @storm bolt All you you can benefit from this

[tiny yoke]

broken vessel is easy

[red jungle]

I suffered so much on it

[red jungle]

Dms 😊

[graceful storm]

huh

[silk beacon]

Yo what

[arctic cobalt]

Broken vessel is so freee

I can do it hitless with my eyes closed

[silk beacon]

Wow I didn't know that

[graceful storm]

i beat him first try

[arctic cobalt]

@red jungle

[red jungle]

Cap cappity cap cap

[foggy sable]

it is pretty useful for floating bosses

[tiny yoke]

fr

[graceful storm]

broken vessel has the slowest attacks

[arctic cobalt]

Broken vessel < false knight

[foggy sable]

because you can face left if you want to push out of an area and right if you want to hit all the damage ticks

[graceful storm]

broken vessel has slow telegraphs and is ez

[tiny yoke]

i did broken vessel while eating a pizza with my other hand in steel soul mode and only took damage once

[magic storm]

Are you sure about this because with wraiths at least it seems to be inconsistent

[tiny yoke]

literally

[foggy sable]

wraiths is weird

[tiny yoke]

@red jungle i didnt use glowing womb btw

[foggy sable]

idk how wraiths works

[keen thorn]

Yes, with shriek it is consistent, wraiths is stupid

[graceful storm]

should i face left on frenzy oblobble?

[arctic cobalt]

Bruh i did it hitless first try while not even attacking with my eyes closed and pc turned off

[keen thorn]

https://youtu.be/BDjEt1sSiIo?si=lSoQRKW14cHATveV

[red jungle]

Glowing womb my goat

[silk beacon]

False knight ez asf
Atleast broken vessel was a little fun

[foggy sable]

if you want to shriek yes

[magic storm]

Oh makes sense

[tiny yoke]

i find both pretty fun

[red jungle]

I best hollow knight with glowing womb

[arctic cobalt]

What is this english lvl

[keen thorn]

Watch this

[arctic cobalt]

"i best"?

What does that mean?

[graceful storm]

bro mains glowing womb but struggles with one of the slowest bosses

[red jungle]

https://youtu.be/1Yap-alP44s?si=qzK8g-TgP0xZtsSk

[arctic cobalt]

Fr

[naive dew]

Hi yis gm hru

[red jungle]

Bruh

It’s def cuz I didn’t have it during broken vessel

[magic storm]

Try with wraiths

[arctic cobalt]

Lmaoo

[graceful storm]

if u struggle with broken vessel ur NOT surviving the rest of the game

[shrewd nymph]

That sounds miserable

[arctic cobalt]

...

[arctic cobalt]

True

[foggy sable]

wraiths needs to be buffed

[magic storm]

Hi Gm good u

[red jungle]

I have 104% completion

I think I can survive the rest 8%

[naive dew]

Im alright im bored as hell and idk what to do later but im good

[tiny yoke]

you will fucking die on pantheons i can guarantee you

[arctic cobalt]

10.4%*

[magic storm]

Not buffed just fixed

[foggy sable]

lune, you know how I've been on a godhome break and hating on godhome

[magic storm]

Za

[arctic cobalt]

True

[keen thorn]

No

[tiny yoke]

the remaining 8% are harder than doing 104% twice

[red jungle]

That’s a problem for later

[graceful storm]

hes gonna blame broken vessel

[keen thorn]

It doesn't work she's too fast

[red jungle]

It’s just pantheons

[tiny yoke]

LMAO 😭

[red jungle]

No it’s not

[arctic cobalt]

Bro is not gonna do p1 with ab

[naive dew]

Okay i will play za later

[tiny yoke]

"JUST PANTHEONS"

[arctic cobalt]

LMaoo

[tiny yoke]

💔

[arctic cobalt]

Then do p5abr

[tiny yoke]

bro is gonna die to vengefly king

[foggy sable]

it does the same damage as dive basically...

[arctic cobalt]

Fr

[tiny yoke]

or gruz mother tbh

[red jungle]

I need to do Colo 3 first

[fading flower]

Brooooo i lost 3k geo to primal aspits trying to get quickslash charm 😭

[red jungle]

No I am not 💀

[silk beacon]

Yeah

[arctic cobalt]

Lmao😭

[foggy sable]

or dive can be nerfed

[graceful storm]

i beat grey prince zote 10 times and white defender 5 times AND path of pain AND radiance all on steel soul mode i can beat oblobbles hitless

[red jungle]

I’m close to beating it

[magic storm]

Getting both dive hits is hard

[red jungle]

I have the best charm build of all time for Colo 3

[shrewd nymph]

mhm

[arctic cobalt]

How many tries?

[red jungle]

I told @tiny yoke and she loved it

[magic storm]

And hitting 3 times is quite valuable

[red jungle]

Idfk

[foggy sable]

well I tried one(1) r5 attempt and got it again

[tiny yoke]

i did not say i love it

[shrewd nymph]

Have you done r5eb yet?

[red jungle]

Yes you did

[tiny yoke]

i just said its not unviable

[graceful storm]

proof?

[foggy sable]

no

[tiny yoke]

i am living counterproof

[red jungle]

I need img perms here first

[foggy sable]

I can't be bothered to get nail binding

[arctic cobalt]

True

[red jungle]

Anyways

[shrewd nymph]

guh you could do nail binding so easy if ur first trying base

[graceful storm]

https://tenor.com/view/zzz-zenless-zone-zero-belle-image-perms-gif-16211658476521656189

[tiny yoke]

what pineapple is saying is wrong 💔

[shrewd nymph]

but anyways ggs

[arctic cobalt]

Bro is not gonna convince any1 😭

[foggy sable]

but the other bindings are the fun break runs

but now charm is done there is no big scary run to take a break from

[red jungle]

Glowing womb, Weaversong, grubsong, grim child, defenders crest, unbreakable strength

[shrewd nymph]

still gotta do anybad smhh

[silk beacon]

Charm binding hardest imo

[shrewd nymph]

Having fun is overrated

[wary hound]

spittinf fax

[arctic cobalt]

Worst build of all time!

[red jungle]

I love all summons

[graceful storm]

if yall want proof of me doing radiance, gpz hitless, pop, and white defender hitless on steel soul let me know

[foggy sable]

when I get around to updating to lumafly

[arctic cobalt]

Good job

[red jungle]

It’s actually good on Colo 3

[arctic cobalt]

Could be worse actually

But its still terrible

[tiny yoke]

maybe if you took off grimmchild and glowing womb

[arctic cobalt]

Aint no way

[shrewd nymph]

you'll either hate it fully or actually enjoy it more than most. No inbetween

[storm bolt]

just let bro enjoy his build and sorely regret it later

[red jungle]

No

Glowing womb is goated

[arctic cobalt]

Fr

[red jungle]

Grim child is goated

[foggy sable]

it neither looks difficult not that fun so who knows

[tiny yoke]

grimmchild has hit like 1 shot in my life

and that was in the hive while i was wearing hiveblood so it made the bee aggressive and almost killed me, thanks for nothing grimmbitch

[shrewd nymph]

Do it without looking up how orbs work.. thats where the real fun starts

[magic storm]

Ew don’t do it

[red jungle]

Ok yeah grimchild is useless

[shrewd nymph]

unless you already know but eh

[arctic cobalt]

Same lmaoo

[red jungle]

But I still love him

[silk beacon]

I haven't used grimmchild even once lol

[tiny yoke]

i only used it when i had to

[foggy sable]

I know almost nothing about the fight

[arctic cobalt]

U finally admitted to it

[tiny yoke]

its pretty cute though i gotta give him that

[red jungle]

But Weaversong and glowing womb aren’t

[wary hound]

hello hyd

[graceful storm]

i tried using grimmchild just so he can destroy the traps on hornet sentinel radiant fight

[silk beacon]

Oh he can?

[arctic cobalt]

They are even worse than grimmchild...

[shrewd nymph]

hii im procrastinating school rn and its going great
Hbu

[graceful storm]

he prioritizes them over hornet

[tiny yoke]

Eh weaversong is better imo
Or rather, less bad

[arctic cobalt]

Why would u need that

[red jungle]

Thats just objectively not true

[arctic cobalt]

True

[storm bolt]

one shade soul destroy both the traps and damage hornet smh

[silk beacon]

Ssoul works too
Remove traps as well as dmgs her

[bold rose]

Yeah lol

[arctic cobalt]

Explain then

[wary hound]

i have school in 4 days also i have been attempting f5 but my best run was 10 hits ( I died ) on uumuu 5 hits were smh on sheo ... it was odd

[red jungle]

Weaversong and glowing womb actually hit things

[graceful storm]

me having no soul:

[red jungle]

Grimchild doesnt

[silk beacon]

R5?

[shrewd nymph]

Oh sick gl on f5

[wary hound]

fotf5

[storm bolt]

then just pogo the traps

[silk beacon]

Sorry?

[idle belfry]

keep sequel topics to the sequel channels #sk-help #sk-lore #sk-discussion

[bold rose]

Glowing womb loses you soul

[shrewd nymph]

r5 but with fury allowed

[arctic cobalt]

But glowing womb steals ur soul

[shrewd nymph]

bro what ???

[wary hound]

???? wat

[graceful storm]

how the fuck 😭

[red jungle]

You’re acting like soul is impossible to get

[shrewd nymph]

fotf as in fury of the fallen.. not sk

[bold rose]

Its better to just spam dive or shriek

[wary hound]

wat is even fotf in silksong like wat

[arctic cobalt]

With ur build it is

[storm bolt]

you can do it wdym

[silk beacon]

Yeah I used to do this

[foggy sable]

anyway f5 is about as hard as r5

[graceful storm]

*steels

[shrewd nymph]

|| father of the flame || prolly

[bold rose]

Why would you waste it on fucking glowing womb

[red jungle]

Weaversong + grubsong gets me inf soul

[foggy sable]

but a different playstyle

[wary hound]

BRUH

[shrewd nymph]

guh

[arctic cobalt]

???

[red jungle]

Glowing womb damage is guaranteed

[wary hound]

ehhhh EHEHHH some bosses dont even get to attack in f5

[red jungle]

The other spells need positioning and timing to get value

[bold rose]

3 per hit.
Dawg grubsong probably contributes more

[foggy sable]

last time I said that you said "but it only took you 3 tries to redo f5" however I redid r5 first try

[storm bolt]

just hit the damn thing and get soul smh

[arctic cobalt]

True

[foggy sable]

so

[silk beacon]

Nail hits do more dmg than that

[red jungle]

And theres 3 weavers

[foggy sable]

all the hard ones are still difficult

[wary hound]

huh

[shrewd nymph]

Radabsrad and rad mmc both take me 1 try, you see the issue?

[arctic cobalt]

9 dmg goes brrr

[red jungle]

You have to be next to something to hit it

[bold rose]

Eh not really.
And like yoy say thay like you can't just abuse invincible frames

[wary hound]

yes but u do MUCH more damage

[red jungle]

You don’t have to be next to something to hit it with glowing womb

[bold rose]

Even with 3.

[foggy sable]

that was directed to lune

[wary hound]

figured

[shrewd nymph]

grey is too good at r5 so shes now lost difficulty perms again

[foggy sable]

okay but like

[bold rose]

Shade soul then

[silk beacon]

Waste of soul
I rather use spells

[foggy sable]

please no

[arctic cobalt]

Fr

[wary hound]

hmm wait wait WHAT

[shrewd nymph]

id rather p5ab = r5 tbh

[red jungle]

Still requires positioning and timing

[upbeat wedge]

New tactic of Getting funking rich af, colloseum of fools

[arctic cobalt]

Eveen a white spell is better

[foggy sable]

I'm retiring back to overworld can I have them back

[nocturne saffron]

Guys how's my new pfp?

[graceful storm]

shade soul does more damage than glowimg womb

[storm bolt]

i never thought i'd see someone actually make a case for glowing womb

[shrewd nymph]

Its like me trying to compare mmc to false knight, both are easy.

Thats grey with f5 and r5

[storm bolt]

cute

[graceful storm]

a nail hit with old nail does more damage than glowing womb

[nocturne saffron]

Whats glowing womb

[bold rose]

Or just wait until a good position for womb
This shit would be bad if it costed one NEGATIVE charm notch

[tiny yoke]

You were the one who said "without weaversong + grubsong i cant get soul"

[storm bolt]

bad bad charm

[graceful storm]

!wiki glowing_womb

[upbeat wedge]

Queen, I can't believe you captured noelle and threatened to turn her face into a robot one

[red jungle]

Glowing womb has inf range

[tiny yoke]

worst charm in the game

[wary hound]

no no i have never checked grey fires roles so i didnt know their gender until u said she ... lol i never check 😭

[bold rose]

2 negative id say makes it good bc 2 notches

[graceful storm]

shade soul does too

[tiny yoke]

there are 3 other things that have infinite range

[red jungle]

I thought it would make her happier

[storm bolt]

so it shade soul

[foggy sable]

I can say that too

[tiny yoke]

ddark
shade soul
abyss shriek

[red jungle]

Glowing womb can go anywhere

[arctic cobalt]

Fr

[tiny yoke]

so can spells

[wary hound]

can u mean it tho

[foggy sable]

if it would make you feel better

[red jungle]

Shade soul only goes straight

[graceful storm]

shade soul can too

[foggy sable]

not anymore tbh

[tiny yoke]

me when jumping and moving around exists

[foggy sable]

f5 and r5 being similar is my genuine current opinion

[nocturne saffron]

Wat does glowing womb do

[graceful storm]

u still have to move around for glowing womb to work properly

[arctic cobalt]

Reaaal

[wary hound]

dam

[arctic cobalt]

True

[foggy sable]

p5ab and r5 being similar was my genuine past opinion

[arctic cobalt]

What about healing

[bold rose]

Jump

[red jungle]

You can focus more on dodging when you’re not trying to position yourself to hit the boss

[upbeat wedge]

Yo, your "giant freaking robot in the middle of the library" is actually sick af brah

[graceful storm]

"dont get hit"

[arctic cobalt]

If u start healing and it steals ur soul and cancels it

[red jungle]

Fr

[arctic cobalt]

Oh true

[wary hound]

similair yes ill give u that but uk f5 is def easier that AMOUNT OF EXTRA DAMAGE is insane

[red jungle]

Just heal before it steals your soul

[foggy sable]

I was... poor at markoth

[red jungle]

I’ve only ever had problems with healing like once

[foggy sable]

and now neither are hard for me

[wary hound]

i see

[graceful storm]

it steels ur soul almost every second

[arctic cobalt]

It steals it all the time

[red jungle]

It’s like 3 seconds

[wary hound]

sttels ur soul

[red jungle]

That’s plenty of time to heal everything

[foggy sable]

if you play a more aggressive playstyle I imagine fury is much better

particularly in bosses such as markoth

[wary hound]

prob

i watced a p5 tas it was ... fast

[graceful storm]

i vanquished galien in 30 seconds with abyss shrieks bruh

[red jungle]

As I said soul is not hard to get lots of

[storm bolt]

i think pineapple is defending glowing womb just to get vc and image perms lol

[foggy sable]

so fury saves about 5 minutes for me I think

[shrewd nymph]

How fast are your normal r5s?

[upbeat wedge]

I can't believe I'm having a conversation with THE queen

[foggy sable]

but only on the easy parts of the run

[storm bolt]

just a lil conspiracy theory

[graceful storm]

good observation

[wary hound]

failed champion if he never staggered

[foggy sable]

low 30 mins

[red jungle]

I forgot I needed to type for img perms tbh

[wary hound]

i see

[arctic cobalt]

U get it BY HITTING THE ENEMY

[shrewd nymph]

I dont remember my f5 time but it wasnt great for f5 standards

[arctic cobalt]

The bot doesnt work

So

Gl

[red jungle]

Exactly

[wary hound]

y

[foggy sable]

I think the one earlier was 32 mins

[arctic cobalt]

Ye so glowjng womb is usuless

[graceful storm]

the collector, false knight/failed champion unstaggered:

[torn smelt]

anyone have a charm build for watcher knights

[foggy sable]

and my fastest f5 is about 28

[shrewd nymph]

I wasnt used to fury / nail only strats so it was more optimized (still not much) for r5

but i was also just new to full gear p5

[silk beacon]

What are u on bro

[red jungle]

You can’t hit it all the time though if it’s like a boss

[wary hound]

i c

[shrewd nymph]

my r5 was fairly quick even with a super slow h2 and lk though

[arctic cobalt]

For example?

[graceful storm]

orange juice

[foggy sable]

actually fun fact

[arctic cobalt]

If u suck and cant hit it then thats ur problem

[foggy sable]

that was the only one I've done live

[tiny yoke]

The entire point of a boss is hitting it
If you can't do that, grubsong exists I guess

[red jungle]

Grim, hes always teleporting

[wary hound]

REALLY nice

happy to have watched it

[foggy sable]

the previous best live attempt died on climb

[arctic cobalt]

Theres plenty of time to hit him

[tiny yoke]

You dont need to hit him more than once every attack

[wary hound]

DEPERESSING

[graceful storm]

bro stays out long enough for u to annihilate him

[foggy sable]

yep

[red jungle]

But you cant hit him all the time

[tiny yoke]

You dont need to

[arctic cobalt]

Well no shit fucking sherlock

[wary hound]

i have shit like that but its far less depressing

[red jungle]

and glowing womb helps chip him down when you can’t hit him

[graceful storm]

thats the thing about him: u just wait for the right openings to hit him

[foggy sable]

there were about 8 people watching as well

[arctic cobalt]

When he is invisivle?

[wary hound]

yes

[foggy sable]

it was so sad

[arctic cobalt]

I dont think so

[foggy sable]

it is the risk of live runs though

[graceful storm]

shade soul or mop/longnail:

[red jungle]

You can be attacking all the time if you have glowing womb

[tiny yoke]

whenever grimm is on screen, you can hit him

whenever he isnt, neither glowing womb nor you can

[wary hound]

definitley if that happened to me on my first ever possible completion of r5 i might actually burst into tears

[red jungle]

You can’t if you’re on the other side of the map and trying to dodge the attacks

[tiny yoke]

then why are you on the other side of the map

[arctic cobalt]

True

[graceful storm]

shade soul:

[nocturne saffron]

Wow, glowing womb does a whole 9 damage

[shrewd nymph]

Are you going for r5?

[foggy sable]

no wait I remember my first f5 was live

[red jungle]

Because it’s easier to dodge the attacks

[nocturne saffron]

Wats r5?

[wary hound]

eventually after f5 hitless excluding first bosses

[foggy sable]

it was in a call with some friends just doing runs in the background

[shrewd nymph]

Radiant p5

[nocturne saffron]

Damn

[graceful storm]

shade soul does 30(40 with shaman stone) and pure nail does 21

[arctic cobalt]

Thats alot

[shrewd nymph]

I've only ever played live once and it was lowk tragic

[red jungle]

It’s harder to dodge and use shade soul than to dodge and use glowing womb

[nocturne saffron]

Ik, it was sarcasm

[shrewd nymph]

i think you were there

[foggy sable]

and I got it and just started laughing, good times

[shrewd nymph]

like properly once **

[graceful storm]

grimm's attacks are so effortless to dodge

[arctic cobalt]

Maybe for u

[foggy sable]

the only run I cried for was charmless because it meant so much to me

[arctic cobalt]

But for a decent player no

U said broken vessel was hard

[bold rose]

Jump

[nocturne saffron]

Descending dark?
The other ability?

[red jungle]

Not for me bro

[graceful storm]

oh yea i forgot u struggled with broken vessel mb

[wary hound]

i havent cried to hollow knight yet surprsingly

[silk beacon]

And?

[red jungle]

Grim kicked my ass

[nocturne saffron]

Just Grimm or nightmare king Grimm?

[tiny yoke]

let hornet tell ya

[arctic cobalt]

Cuz u suck

[red jungle]

Normal grim

[graceful storm]

so did a broken vessel

[foggy sable]

it was something of a 100-200 hour grind total spread over about 7 months

[arctic cobalt]

Fr

[nocturne saffron]

Dude normal Grimm is so easy

[red jungle]

🥀

[shrewd nymph]

Only 42 messages to go

[surreal hemlock]

Hi everyone

[nocturne saffron]

Yo

[tiny yoke]

[surreal hemlock]

Hru guys

[graceful storm]

bro got killed by a lifeless vessel oml

[nocturne saffron]

Idk

[red jungle]

Not really

[arctic cobalt]

Wsg

[wary hound]

GODDAM the most amount of hours on any one THING is like 5hours ish and thats rad absrad ( soon to be r5 f5 etc so just p5 )

[foggy sable]

it was so surreal to be done

[red jungle]

I kinda struggled on grim

[surreal hemlock]

Wspp

[arctic cobalt]

It fucking is

[foggy sable]

there is a reason I'm so opposed for r5ab

[graceful storm]

normal grimm i beat so easily im disapointed his fight wasnt challenging

[bold rose]

I just checked grimmchild dmg.
THE FUCK YOU MEAM 11

[nocturne saffron]

What did you have when you fought him?

[tiny yoke]

bro got killed by a few flashlight particles infesting a piece of wood

[arctic cobalt]

This guy is defending glowing womb for his life

[red jungle]

Ok well I’m not good at combat

[wary hound]

i would imagine the joy going through ur mind when u won

[nocturne saffron]

Ik right?

[shrewd nymph]

My longest excluding r5 and similar things is overworld watcher knights

[silk beacon]

This is nothing
I spent like 10hrs to get pv on attuned 10 times 💀

[arctic cobalt]

I see

[wary hound]

fair mentally draining

[wary hound]

WAT

[bold rose]

6.12 DPS

[foggy sable]

and charmless is such an unenjoyable slog as well

[surreal hemlock]

😭

[red jungle]

First time I fought him I had mark of pride, quickslash, unb strength, grubsong

[wary hound]

1st time ig if u get there underleveled like nail 0 i see that

[graceful storm]

i can beat grimm so easily then complain why hes not much of a challenge for me

[foggy sable]

I think radabsrad took something like 10-15 hours

[shrewd nymph]

i think my longest is r5 p5ab f5 then anyrad

[foggy sable]

the second longest grind I've done

[silk beacon]

8hrs for rad sly nail arts only

[nocturne saffron]

How were you struggling

[foggy sable]

third

[shrewd nymph]

Everything else was first few tries excluding watcher knights

[carmine nebula]

Ooga Booga

[wary hound]

not bad

[silk beacon]

6hrs for rad pv

[surreal hemlock]

Path of pain Mobile took me like 4 hours 🥹

[wary hound]

nah its alot

[arctic cobalt]

This guy has to be trolling

[red jungle]

It’s hard to dodge and also do damage

[nocturne saffron]

Damn

[tiny yoke]

I wonder who told you at the very start to not get attached to bad charms

And I wonder if you said "nah I'll get better by doing this trust"

I sure wonder who that was

[arctic cobalt]

Lmao

[graceful storm]

that is exactly the build u need for grimm

[wary hound]

ima sleep now

[graceful storm]

his attacks take like 2 seconds to dodge and counter

[red jungle]

I beat grim with all summon build

[surreal hemlock]

I mean I took Soo many breaks

[carmine nebula]

Gotta love how even though 2 VC roles have vouched ive been here for a while and that they know me, they still dont care

[foggy sable]

gn

[nocturne saffron]

You're going to have a field trip with nightmare king Grimm

[arctic cobalt]

Fr

[nocturne saffron]

I just beat him btw

[arctic cobalt]

Its gonna take him 20years

[tiny yoke]

@red jungle dont ignore me coward

[red jungle]

I know 😭

[graceful storm]

hes gonna use glowing womb

[arctic cobalt]

Gj

[tiny yoke]

he said he will easily beat path of pain

[foggy sable]

technically I think radabsrad was a longer grind than p5ab which is funny

[nocturne saffron]

Now, should I try path of pain

[tiny yoke]

glowing womb makes path of pain easier trust

[red jungle]

Oh no I like fun charms

[tiny yoke]

yes its very fun

[foggy sable]

I started out very bad okay

[graceful storm]

@red jungle u cant rely on glowing womb for path of pain

[red jungle]

Why should I be forced to use all the broken charms on my first playthrough

[silk beacon]

Good luck 👍

[tiny yoke]

he can 🥀

[arctic cobalt]

True

[red jungle]

I’m not gonna use it on path of pain

[foggy sable]

radHoG was about 50 hours

[shrewd nymph]

If ur doing overworld now.. when is true completion

[graceful storm]

wingsmoulds:

[bold rose]

My worst boss was probably like lost kin?
I tried ir after getting wings lol

[graceful storm]

u said u always use glowing womb

[arctic cobalt]

Why

[foggy sable]

my save is bugged for one of the eggs

[red jungle]

Not always

[tiny yoke]

hes gonna try and find a way anyway

[bold rose]

I don't even remember what i struggled to specifically

[graceful storm]

u love glowing womb

[arctic cobalt]

U lied then...

[shrewd nymph]

Bugged how? I thought you just missed one

[red jungle]

Sometimes I take it off when its just useless

[graceful storm]

then say it was ez

[graceful storm]

BRO FINALLY CALLS IT USELESS

[foggy sable]

the spawn position has no egg in

[red jungle]

I do but that doesn’t mean I bring it to stuff like failed champion

[tiny yoke]

https://youtu.be/L5wNBodXx3g @red jungle

[foggy sable]

so I think it is buggy

[red jungle]

Goat

[foggy sable]

I might have to save edit

[tiny yoke]

You did use it for failed champion

[shrewd nymph]

gotcha

[red jungle]

Sometimes it does nothing

[nocturne saffron]

No, I already tried last night and the only hard part is the last part

[red jungle]

I didn’t

[graceful storm]

ur just now realizing

[foggy sable]

it wouldn't be that hard to go from new save but eh

[tiny yoke]

correct, the rest is fun

[red jungle]

On failed champion I used fragile Strength quickslash mark of pride grubsong

[arctic cobalt]

ALL THE TIME

[red jungle]

Only for certain bosses

[graceful storm]

u lied about loving glowing womb

[tiny yoke]

i think you telling yourself that it does something is placebo effect

[nocturne saffron]

Is the only thing you get from path of pain bragging rights?

[foggy sable]

r5 completion rate is half of what is was in december smh

[bold rose]

Now do it without kingsoul and with dream nail.
No hit + no other charms + soul binding

[tiny yoke]

a journal entry and a cutscene as well ig

[red jungle]

Glowing womb is literally the reason I beat nosk

[bold rose]

Just dreamnail and glowing womb

[surreal hemlock]

:D

[red jungle]

I should do this one day

[silk beacon]

Seal of binding and a cutscene

[nocturne saffron]

Just hide in a corner

[bold rose]

Oh nosk beat the shit out of me.
I had to camp it out and hiveblood

[nocturne saffron]

Damn hiveblood?

[red jungle]

Hiding means youre not doing damage

[nocturne saffron]

Uppercut

[bold rose]

Ngl hiveblood is fun but 4 notches is too much

[red jungle]

Unless you use glowing womb

[bold rose]

Truth nuke

[graceful storm]

if u can beat nosk with glowing womb then u can failed champion with glowing womb

[bold rose]

Soul?

[red jungle]

One hit

[nocturne saffron]

Grubberfly elegy?

[agile pewter]

: |

[storm bolt]

abyss shriek:

[red jungle]

Failed champions armor stops you from getting soul

[graceful storm]

glowing womb also does 1 hit with less dmg

[bold rose]

2 with quickslash

[red jungle]

I didn’t have it at the time

[tiny yoke]

dash after it and hit it again, use shade soul, and thats 3 hits for you

[storm bolt]

its him

[tiny yoke]

2 nail hits with quick slash

[red jungle]

I didn’t have it at the time

[nocturne saffron]

Dreamnail

[red jungle]

And most likely get hit by the boss

[red jungle]

He has to be staggered for it

[tiny yoke]

you cant get hit by nosk in the corner

[tiny yoke]

no he doesnt

[nocturne saffron]

You can

[red jungle]

Otherwise you just take tons of damage

[graceful storm]

why use glowing womb when wayward compass exists

[wanton niche]

Cheese

[tiny yoke]

on the infection attack ye

[wanton niche]

Helo

[tiny yoke]

git gud...

[nocturne saffron]

Hey

[wanton niche]

Hi

[nocturne saffron]

Hru?

[graceful storm]

?tags

[idle belfry]

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[wanton niche]

Dying in city

[red jungle]

Dreamnailing failed champion when hes not staggering is just a bad play

[bold rose]

I think my " noob " charm i like is hiveblood
I am really good at camping while moving

[tiny yoke]

you cannot talk about bad plays when you rely on placebo effect

[nocturne saffron]

Shaman stone?

[graceful storm]

?tag gitgud

[idle belfry]

Please Do Not Give Unhelpful Advice In general, try to be as encouraging and constructive while providing tips to new players struggling throughout the game. Snarky remarks like "git gud" or "skill issue" or "just kill it" provide players with zero constructive feedback on how to progress throughout the game. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all

[bold rose]

?

[bold rose]

GIH GUUD - hornet 2017

[worthy peak]

Glowing womb is kind of okay if you have like nothing and are doing a hitless challenge. (Super common occurrence) /Jk

[graceful storm]

what i have a cold i need entertainment

its 5am for me rn

[bold rose]

You need crystal dash for glowing womb

[tulip escarp]

Is glowing womb even part of any charm set

[graceful storm]

no

[red jungle]

Yes

[agile zephyr]

Technically you don't.

[worthy peak]

Not with skips

[red jungle]

Glowing womb is in my charmset ❤️

[worthy peak]

And if you are doing a hitless challenge maybe you can do that skip

[tulip escarp]

huh

[bold rose]

If yoy can do skips then jist go to fungal wastes and get strenght

[agile zephyr]

Summoner.

[torn smelt]

aurp

[graceful storm]

can sharp shadow + sprintmaster + dash master let u access glowing womb without cdash?

[tulip escarp]

Fair enough

[red jungle]

It has good synergy with Weaversong grubsong

[worthy peak]

Although also you might just avoid some upgrades

[nocturne saffron]

Does glowing womb do 9 damage per guy or is it all of them?

[fiery ravine]

Pale court charms are cool

[bold rose]

Just dash nail pogo dash? Hatd but possible

[bold rose]

Mod?

[nimble sigil]

Yoo guy

[worthy peak]

To be good glowing womb basically just requires you to have no spell enhancing charms and to not heal

[graceful storm]

u need to be EXTREMELY precise with that...

[red jungle]

Wrong

[nocturne saffron]

Git gud

[worthy peak]

As well as not having wraiths or level two spells

[graceful storm]

?tag gitgud

[idle belfry]

Please Do Not Give Unhelpful Advice In general, try to be as encouraging and constructive while providing tips to new players struggling throughout the game. Snarky remarks like "git gud" or "skill issue" or "just kill it" provide players with zero constructive feedback on how to progress throughout the game. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all

[torn smelt]

guys which charm genuinely makes you unable to remove

[red jungle]

If you need to heal while having glowing womb, just heal before the bugs use it up

[agile zephyr]

What?

[red jungle]

Wayward compass

[tulip escarp]

to die?

[graceful storm]

...

[verbal zodiac]

Quick slash i cant take it off

[strong skiff]

Voidheart

[storm bolt]

glowing womb when spell twister exist:

[fiery ravine]

Shaman stone

[graceful storm]

that charm carried me

[agile zephyr]

Grimmchild. Isn't optimal, but they are my son.

[fiery ravine]

Soul eater

[verbal zodiac]

Fair point

[torn smelt]

same

[red jungle]

Based

I love grimchild

[strong skiff]

Bald

[magic storm]

?tag yesping

[idle belfry]

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[strong skiff]

Grimchid is ass

[graceful storm]

?tag banned

[idle belfry]

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[red jungle]

But he’s cute

[strong skiff]

Ping

[magic storm]

Yippee

[tulip escarp]

My friend says that I'm not really good at the game since I play bosses with a tanky charm build, is that really the case?

[nocturne saffron]

Is Grimmchild worse or glowing womb?

[red jungle]

Grimchild is def worse

[strong skiff]

No he's not
Stfu grimmchild top tier mod

[agile zephyr]

The sleeping animation is amazing.

[nocturne saffron]

Battle of attribution?

[graceful storm]

glowing womb

[red jungle]

At least glowing womb does something

[strong skiff]

[graceful storm]

glowing womb is a waste of notches

[worthy peak]

Having strength doesn't actually effect the use of womb. It's only spell damage and healing that matters I think

[red jungle]

I love the sleeping animation on all the summon charms

[strong skiff]

In terms of for damage grimmchild is better

[torn smelt]

glowing womb sucks

[strong skiff]

Unless you somehow have no spells ig

[graceful storm]

glowing womb just makes u become the mother of the worst enemy in the game

[tulip escarp]

Idk if it has any name, but I play unbreakable heart, unbreakable strength, grubsong and quick slash

[red jungle]

Fuck you mean grimchild is better for damage

[nocturne saffron]

That's a good build tho

[red jungle]

Youre always doing 0 damage with grimchild cuz he can’t hit anything

[strong skiff]

@keen thorn whats grimmchild vs gwomb actual dps

[agile zephyr]

Glowing Womb. Takes Soul for mid damage that they need to run up for.

[strong skiff]

At least it doesnt waste your soul

[red jungle]

Glowing womb is guaranteed damage

[strong skiff]

Its free potential damage

[graceful storm]

11 with grimmchild
9 with glowing womb

[tulip escarp]

I don't know, that's what he said when I showed it to him

[red jungle]

I’d argue it’s not a waste of soul

[nocturne saffron]

But takes soul?

[red jungle]

Because you’re always getting value

[strong skiff]

If you cast a spell its more samage

[worthy peak]

Cause the damage improvement from womb is it's damage minus spell damage

[agile zephyr]

Not true. Saved my life multiple times.

[red jungle]

If you shoot a spell and miss thats a waste of soul

[strong skiff]

One singular not shaman vs is 15 bruh

[graceful storm]

abyss shriek/descending dark:

[red jungle]

If you miss it’s a waste of soul

[strong skiff]

What lvl grimmchild
Also thats just damage,not dps

[red jungle]

Glowing womb can’t miss

[graceful storm]

how the hell can u miss

[tiny yoke]

9 damage in exchange for soul or 8/11 damage for free

[nocturne saffron]

But does ass damage

[graceful storm]

max level grimmchild

[red jungle]

Teleporting bosses

[red jungle]

That is if it hits anything

[tiny yoke]

if it doesnt, youll still have the benefit of not having used up soul

[graceful storm]

u cant hit teleporting bosses with glowing womb anyway 😭

[bold rose]

Not what i meant

[red jungle]

Youre underestimating the guaranteed value

[red jungle]

Yes you can

[agile zephyr]

8 Soul? Horrible Charm.

[worthy peak]

How much soul is it per thing

[graceful storm]

8

[worthy peak]

What did you mean

[nocturne saffron]

Bro pure nail does more then 2 times for hit

[strong skiff]

8???

[red jungle]

Idk but it doesn’t drain that much

[strong skiff]

Bro this is even worse than i thought

[graceful storm]

especialy with mop

[worthy peak]

So it only beats Vs in terms of damage

[red jungle]

But to use the nail, you have to be next to something and risk taking damage

[graceful storm]

mop:

[red jungle]

With glowing womb you can just focus on dodging

[nocturne saffron]

Mark of pride with long nail?

[red jungle]

You still need to be close to the boss

[torn smelt]

fully upgraded grimmchild does 11 damage glowing womb does 9

[red jungle]

Who the fuck uses mark of pride and longnail

[agile zephyr]

Grubberfly's Elegy:

[graceful storm]

same with glowing womb

[bold rose]

.

[worthy peak]

Soul cost though

[storm bolt]

@red jungle you have over 300 msg, you can stop ragebaiting now

[graceful storm]

who the fuck uses glowing womb

[nocturne saffron]

Then how would you get soul for glowing womb?

[keen zenith]

they’re like perfect for full nail builds

[foggy sable]

occasionally

[bold rose]

( NOT ANYMORE)

[red jungle]

Me

[worthy peak]

That only applies if it doesn't

[worthy peak]

Me

[graceful storm]

i use mark of pride and longnail

[red jungle]

You need to be on full health

[graceful storm]

dont get hit

[tiny yoke]

Me

[agile zephyr]

Which requires you to hit things.

[strong skiff]

I cant believe i would see the day of fucking glowing womb glaze

[red jungle]

For guaranteed damage

[tiny yoke]

Git gud

[foggy sable]

the thing about glowing womg is it takes soul which has better uses

[tulip escarp]

Would mark of pride, long nail and grubberfly elegy just let you hit enemies from the other end of the arena?

[torn smelt]

mark of pride and longnail Almost has the same range ngl

[foggy sable]

that is what makes it not good

[red jungle]

It’s not worth 5 notches for that little bit more range

[tiny yoke]

Ive been dealing with this since December
Pls send help

[nocturne saffron]

Basically

[graceful storm]

for half damage

[storm bolt]

WRONG

[worthy peak]

Yes but it means you do need to hit the boss so you can't just focus on dodging

[graceful storm]

glowing womb isnt either

[agile zephyr]

Just use Unbreakable Strength, Quick Slash, Shaman Stone, Spell Twister.

[tiny yoke]

Thats why just mark of pride is enough

[strong skiff]

I have one advice
Ignore it

[red jungle]

Glowing womb is 2 notches

[tulip escarp]

Yeah, but it also removes a big risk factor

[foggy sable]

elegy range isn't increased by MoP or ln

[graceful storm]

honestly if bro is defending glowing womb then ill defend kingsoul

[tiny yoke]

So is longnail

[tulip escarp]

Oh

[torn smelt]

for me its right

[red jungle]

My point who Tf uses both mark of pride and longnail

[tiny yoke]

🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

[red jungle]

It’s either one or the other

[keen thorn]

Grimmchild does 6.1 dps
Womb does 2.25 dps

[keen zenith]

dude no one uses glowing womb though

[bold rose]

.

[worthy peak]

Me doing radiant bosses

[agile zephyr]

So is Unbreakable Heart.

[red jungle]

Ig I’m no one

[strong skiff]

Its not? I know it doesnt fly further but it starts further right

[keen zenith]

ye

[tiny yoke]

Who tf uses both glowing womb and weaversong

It's either one or the other

Or even better, neither

[strong skiff]

HOOLY

[red jungle]

And Whats your point

[storm bolt]

numbers dont care about opinion

[foggy sable]

I believe the max range is the same

[strong skiff]

Bro womb is SO ASS

[agile zephyr]

Use them for anything else.

[red jungle]

They synergise together if you also have grubsong

[nocturne saffron]

Yeah

[tulip escarp]

Me when I go to beat hollow knight

[worthy peak]

It increases height though right. Id argue that is extra range

[keen thorn]

Fury womb does 3.5

[tiny yoke]

So do quick slash, mark of pride and unb strength

[graceful storm]

i-i use weaversong with grubsong...

i take the blame

[keen zenith]

At least it isn’t glowing womb

[red jungle]

Goated

[shrewd nymph]

Iirc MoP increases its height but not length

[strong skiff]

I did not expect 8 dmg per one can be 2 fucking dps thats insane

[graceful storm]

unlike glowing womb

[red jungle]

Weaversong grubsong is actually op

[strong skiff]

LOL

[foggy sable]

yes

[tiny yoke]

As long as you dont use glowing womb you can live

Weaversong is still the least terrible minion charm

[keen thorn]

Compared to 224 of fury strength quickslslash

[red jungle]

Glowing womb is also good

[graceful storm]

atleast im GAINING soul

[foggy sable]

the pproblem is all the minion charms suck

[agile zephyr]

Less DPS than a 1 damage Nail would have.

[strong skiff]

Whar lvl grimmchild is enough to outdps womb

[foggy sable]

but they are fun so make of that what you will

[nocturne saffron]

Unupgraded nail does more

[red jungle]

Gaining soul does nothing if you don’t use it

[graceful storm]

me spamming spells:

[tiny yoke]

max, but at 1 under max it does the same for no soul

[agile zephyr]

Forces you to hit things with Nail.

[red jungle]

Fair enough

[keen zenith]

most used mechanic in the game btw

[agile zephyr]

For what? 2 DPS?

[graceful storm]

i use weaversong and grubsong to gain passive soul while dodging then i use ddark for iframes and good dmg

[worthy peak]

How much extra damage per nail hit is it assuming you only have Vs for spells

[strong skiff]

Aint no way 8dmg grimmchild is doing less than 2.25 dps
I dont understand math

[keen zenith]

Math ain’t mathing

[nocturne saffron]

21 for pure nail

[strong skiff]

If 11 dmg is 6 dps 8 dmg cant be less than 2

[red jungle]

Better than 0 dps when youre mainly focusing on dodging

[agile zephyr]

Just slap on a bunch of damage Charms and destroy everything.

[strong skiff]

Surely

[keen thorn]

Level 1 LMAO
In order
0dps, 2.7dps, 4.4 dps, 6.1 dps

[bold rose]

XD

[graceful storm]

30 with unbreakable/fragile strength

[strong skiff]

LMAOO

[keen zenith]

just don’t use womb

[strong skiff]

Yeah thats what i was saying

[worthy peak]

Talking about equipping glowing womb

[agile zephyr]

Glowing Womb is cooked.

[keen thorn]

Fucking level 1 Grimmchild is better than womb

[naive dew]

Romaromaromaromaromaromaromaroma

[storm bolt]

*32

[worthy peak]

Cause it can technically increase damage output

[keen thorn]

That is crazy

[graceful storm]

I ALWAYS THOUGHT 30

[keen zenith]

e

[foggy sable]

glowing womb should do 1.5 nail damage or something

[strong skiff]

Ok womb would technically be more dps than lvl1 because it doesnt miss

[red jungle]

Womb is the reason I beat nosk, marmu and grim

[wary hound]

Fair

[graceful storm]

now i need to calculate my nailhits to beat certain bosses again BRUH

[keen thorn]

21*1.5=31.5 and rounds to 32

[foggy sable]

maybe 1x because it can't miss

[strong skiff]

But yes

[foggy sable]

but either way

[worthy peak]

Also assuming every spell hits once

[keen zenith]

congrats you beat easy bosses with a crappy charm

[keen thorn]

I mean it attacks every 4 seconds while quickslslash is 4 times per second

[graceful storm]

24 nail hits to beat 1 oblobble NICE

[foggy sable]

wait it is every 4 seconds

[red jungle]

I struggled with them without glowing womb

[foggy sable]

that sucks more than I thought

[keen zenith]

💀

[graceful storm]

u cant struggle with marmu and grimm

[strong skiff]

Bro exactly

[keen zenith]

exactly

[nocturne saffron]

How much did you fucking camp bro

[worthy peak]

And that all soul is converted to a hit by glowing womb

[graceful storm]

u also struggled with broken vessel

[foggy sable]

ew marmu

[red jungle]

Ok I didn’t really struggle on marmu

[bold rose]

Alright @red jungle my ultimate dipshit guide:

• deal damage and get hit like a loser
• heal with hiveblood
• repeat

[shrewd nymph]

So is glowing womb just the worst charm in the game then

[agile zephyr]

Bro just sat there.

[keen zenith]

yep

[nocturne saffron]

Basically

[foggy sable]

well there are charms with bigger negatives

[red jungle]

I didn’t

[shrewd nymph]

I thought it was atleast debatable with like toa

[wary hound]

It has always been hasn’t it

[keen thorn]

Thorns is still worse

[agile zephyr]

Gonna get Sharp Shadow soon.

[strong skiff]

Gwomb is still coop for skips and itemless(like rando scenarios) but its literally unusable otherwise wow

[graceful storm]

marmu just teaches u how to juggle certain bosses

[bold rose]

This is what got me past the radiance btw

[shrewd nymph]

Okay good to know

[red jungle]

I struggled on them cuz it’s hard to go do damage and also simultaneously dodge everything

[wary hound]

Ehh ehhhh ehh

[foggy sable]

wait yes gwomb is worse

[keen zenith]

you have an INSANE skill issue if you can’t beat those bosses

[agile zephyr]

It can at least do something.

[foggy sable]

because it sucks with hit challenges as well

[shrewd nymph]

Ive always thought gwomb/thorns

[wispy willow]

@quartz cave

[graceful storm]

u can NOT say this shit about marmu

[keen zenith]

yeah but it’s one notch

[shrewd nymph]

Such as?

[agile zephyr]

Glowing Womb is just horrible.

[red jungle]

Ok maybe I do have a skill issue

[keen zenith]

👍

[bold rose]

Worst charm imo is joni's

[wary hound]

Thorns actually does decent damage

[red jungle]

I was lazy for marmu

[agile zephyr]

Marmu?

[graceful storm]

you finally admit it

[foggy sable]

... idk maybe sbody no qs or something

[red jungle]

I didn’t really need glowing womb for marmu but I like glowing womb

[storm bolt]

you can still use it to face tank certain bosses

[strong skiff]

Thorns is worst even by usecases
Has 0

[graceful storm]

marmu is all about hitting her and knocking her back and repeating

massive moss charger is the same

[red jungle]

Doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to have fun with charms I like

[wispy willow]

Womb has some usecases in boss speadkills

[worthy peak]

Seriously. What damage increase per nail hit would it be. Assuming only Vs I'm so curious and don't know how to calculate

[nocturne saffron]

Btw, what's your guy's opinions on steady body?