hk-discussion

[graceful storm]

wdym

was it supposed to be ez?

[kind sigil]

gruz mother?

[graceful storm]

was i supposed to first try it?

[graceful storm]

yes

[kind sigil]

brother

[graceful storm]

what other pregnant mom is there?

flukemarm?!

[kind sigil]

im gonna rad pregnant mother rn

FUH THEY CHANGED THE ARENA

WHAT

okay neverminf ig

i dont blame you

[graceful storm]

ddark is so awful for iframes

[kind sigil]

markoth

[kind sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-detector-gif-9388384639890532829

[brittle otter]

I'm sorry I need to send this

[kind sigil]

and they have markoth too

its shrue...

[fiery trench]

I send mine knowing that I'm garbo :)

anways why do u hate NKG
just curious

[sudden helm]

I was about to ask the same question

[fiery trench]

ah, understood

[sudden helm]

He's fun tho

[brittle otter]

Ik it's not impressive

[fiery trench]

when skill rnjesus decided to hate u one day and bless u another

[sudden helm]

Yeah i experienced the same with the Radiance

[sudden helm]

Took over 7 hours to defeat today i did her first try somehow

[kind sigil]

i died to radiance so much on my first time beating them

[brittle otter]

I can say the hardest 3 bosses are zoth markoth and absr

[sudden helm]

I realized i was using the wrong strategy and charm builds after 6 hours

[kind sigil]

nkg is just harder than rad in general

i didnt use many spells during nkg

[fiery trench]

I can't remember the bosses I struggled on during my first playthrough
its been far too long

[sudden helm]

It was okay i wasn't really mad

[graceful storm]

vengefly kings just summoned babies like 4 times in a row🥀

[kind sigil]

only shriek when under grimm after the last flame pillar

[fiery trench]

at least it was only 4 times

[kind sigil]

yes

[sudden helm]

I mastered patience when it comes to bosses so it was okay

[kind sigil]

nice

[fiery trench]

nice

[brittle otter]

Congrats

[keen thorn]

Bat is genuinely the most do whatever the fuck you want attack

Legit any response is good

[fiery trench]

how about dash slash into an attack

[keen thorn]

Yeah that's good

I do that when running NMG, which is not often

[fiery trench]

no I mean into the bats

[kind sigil]

how about die to the bat

[brittle otter]

How do you choose this order...

[keen thorn]

That works

[fiery trench]

going bottom path and then up

then go left

[kind sigil]

genuinely why is nkgs 'loon attack easier than regular grimms 'loon attack

[fiery trench]

mkhm, r5, mkhm

[fiery trench]

which attack is that

[kind sigil]

balloon attack

[sudden helm]

The putterfish attack?

[fiery trench]

that was calling a specific person out

[keen thorn]

R5 is nothing in comparison to the full repertoire of challenges

[stark marlin]

isn't easier
deals 2 masks a hit

[keen thorn]

Still, saying which game has the biggest skill ceiling is a very weird thing

[sudden helm]

Yeah Same i find it easier

[brittle otter]

Idk almost any game can be really hard

[keen thorn]

Some games like geometry dash are quite literally uncapped

[kind sigil]

but i get hit less during nkgs pufferfish attack than normal grimms pufferfish one

[keen thorn]

You can always do something harder

[stark marlin]

Has r5 broken nail only been done already?

[fiery trench]

people here like suffering

[sudden helm]

That's hell

[stark marlin]

Aren't they almost the same to dodge

[keen thorn]

In HK to go harder you go either lower gear (boring) or RNG bs (bad)

[keen thorn]

No

[kind sigil]

no

somehow

they should be the same

but no?

[keen thorn]

They are the same, nkg is just faster

Which implies Grimm is slower

[graceful storm]

i feel like ddark hardly gives iframes

[stark marlin]

Any TAS of it was done at least?

[kind sigil]

Well, you are incorrect

[keen thorn]

If 0.4 seconds is short

Attacks move in intervals of like 0.1 seconds

[kind sigil]

at least one zeptosecond just passed

[keen thorn]

Hit the ground

During the dive you have dive invulnerability

If you go higher to dive you actually have more iframes
It's negligible tho

[stark marlin]

you also get iframes for the duration of the slam ofc

[keen thorn]

TASing stuff is ridiculously slow and tiring. So no

They are done mostly for proof of concept of more visually appealing things

[kind sigil]

downward shade cloak 😭

[keen thorn]

Yeah

[stark marlin]

Dang
Why are the terraria guys doing this stuff
But the hollow knight guys can't push themselves?
We need more masochists in the community

[sudden helm]

Imagine them doing it on phone

[keen thorn]

Because hollow knight sucks

[stark marlin]

I know it's easier but doesn't suck bad
It's fun game

[keen thorn]

That's not what I said

Lol

[stark marlin]

How? You said HK sucks
Or you meant as the boss?

[keen thorn]

The game sucks. It's really badly optimized and very weirdly coded

And RNG seeding sucks as well

[stark marlin]

I know the latter two are true
But the gameplay is good, and it doesn't lack playerbase

[brittle otter]

Just go to gd community they have a lot of masochists

[stark marlin]

What's gd? gollow dnight?

[brittle otter]

Geometry dash

[keen thorn]

If you see my runs, when AbsRad does a beam wall into climb I usually go as high as possible before ddarking, since a beam behind the wall sucks a lot

But that's like, the only time I use that

[stark marlin]

Oh those poor victims
They won't handle a tas that requires like 5 or 6 different keys

[keen thorn]

It's extremely minor

[strong zephyr]

i just beat radiance

[sinful totem]

people overstate how hard the game is

[brittle otter]

They don't need tas they did all no tas

[sudden helm]

You just need patience

[keen thorn]

People can't understand the difficulty of anything beyond their scope.
And it's not really the fault of anyone, brains are not meant to understand these things

[stark marlin]

Before I bought it, I got gaslighted (that's how you use this word?) into thinking that there's no chance I beat it in this lifetime
Deep fake

[agile zephyr]

How do I check my percentage?

[subtle glacier]

bingy...

[keen thorn]

Beating deadlocked is actually not even that hard.
Gd is hard because it has a level editor, so people can do whatever the fuck they want

[stark marlin]

good so now time to enslave them
I need to see a old nail only, r5 tas/human run
To restore my faith in humanity

[keen thorn]

Tidal wave is probably one of the hardest things to do in gaming period, but only because the game doesn't limit growth

I'm not saying it's easy

I've only done clubstep lol

[stark marlin]

I was replying to the comment about HK's overstated difficulty (might have messed up sorry)

[sinful totem]

i first tried nearly every boss + i did everything the game has to offer, and i mean EVERYTHING

[brittle otter]

Tidal wave is like top 4 demon only rn

[keen thorn]

Oh it's HK
Then also yes

A lot of people that come into HK are not used to hard games, so P5 looks like absolute hell

[stark marlin]

then it's skill
HK is balanced around dying in the first playthrough

[keen thorn]

But if you're used to other games it's not gonna be that difficult

[frosty saffron]

how do i install i forgot

[keen thorn]

Also if you actually try to think about why you die rather than relying on just getting good

[brittle otter]

I hate electrodynamyx but no it's not boring

[stark marlin]

Yeah that one
Since why the hell would I want to get good?

[keen thorn]

But don't be confused, the growth of P5AB+ challenges is completely ridiculous

[amber shadow]

i want the comic aswell

[oak maple]

just did radiant traitor lord. i think watching other people do traitor lord really helped me

[rose peak]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-game-knight-hollow-silk-song-gif-25946303

[keen thorn]

Idk, people genuinely think you can just get good by playing

[paper wharf]

Now do markoth

[keen thorn]

But while that's true, the real mechanism to learning is understanding your defeats

[rose peak]

Do eternal ordeal but radiant

[brittle otter]

Markoth is second hardest imo

[keen thorn]

Markoth is the clearest example

Phase 2 instakill comes pretty close

[paper wharf]

Grimmchild and just dodge

[rose peak]

Thats a very long time but maybe worth it

[keen thorn]

Just dodge is not a cheese since you know...
You have to dodge

[paper wharf]

I didnt know what to say so i just typed bullshit

[keen thorn]

No...

[rough fjord]

Just beat Pantheon 1
Is 10:49 a good time?

[brittle otter]

Normal for first

[paper wharf]

Now markoth please 🙏🏻

[brittle otter]

Do it

[oak maple]

exactly! by getting defeated, you can slowly make out your mistakes that you made and teaching yourself not to do those mistakes again, therefore getting better at the boss the more you try

[brittle otter]

Just do it

[keen thorn]

Yep. And by saying "[Boss] is pure rng" you're conditioning yourself to not learn

Which leads to many Markoth haters

[paper wharf]

No one hates markoth for rng

[steel sundial]

[keen thorn]

That's the #1 argument

Also AbsRad, GPZ

Tyrant too

[paper wharf]

Its the arena dude

[oak maple]

YESS!!!! i've been trying to say this for so long

[paper wharf]

Those are pure rng

Especially gray prince

[keen thorn]

See? You're speaking proof of what I'm saying lol

[civic ridge]

dude any of u beat pale court

cuz that shit is hard

[paper wharf]

Gray prince is for sure an rng dependent boss

[keen thorn]

Nope

[steel sundial]

NO ONE CARES ABT THAT STUPID MOD

GA0PQWOJEIGBJ

[keen thorn]

He's in fact, one of the most consistent

He's just really hard

[quick parrot]

I'd hate, but I couldn't if I wanted to.

[paper wharf]

Doesnt seem hard to me

[quick parrot]

I suck compared to you

[civic ridge]

you're stupid

[brisk steppe]

i tried sucked and gave up

[paper wharf]

Just annoying

[brisk steppe]

but i may try again

perhaps

[oak maple]

nope. tried it out once, and threw it away never to see the light of day ever again

[steel sundial]

ok

[graceful storm]

brooding mawlek sucks

[civic ridge]

i just beat kindly isma

[keen thorn]

You're focusing that hard into RNG because you can't understand why you die

And I don't blame anyone that can't understand on their own

GPZ is also very complex

[graceful storm]

how to quickly kill brooding mawlek?

[civic ridge]

I'm not starting my silksong run until I beat pc

[rough fjord]

is 10 minutes 49 sec good for pantheon 1?
(was playing aggressive)

[frank estuary]

Pc?

[brisk steppe]

a lot of people who blame rng most of the time don't even know what it really means

[civic ridge]

pale court

[brisk steppe]

just heard that from other players

[frank estuary]

Ahh

[keen thorn]

But if this is possible
https://youtu.be/Wyuer_ul5e0?si=xA9P2WIjQ55-qSZ9

Then something can always be done

[civic ridge]

damn you beating that zote?

[keen thorn]

That's not me, it's mintmoth

One of the best players in the world

Surprisingly not, he's just really really really really really really really really really hard

[paper wharf]

I dont die to zote i just get hit more than i should

[keen thorn]

Die = get hit
Excuse my hitless self

[civic ridge]

I only got till like his 6th praise or whatever you would call it

[oak maple]

i'd say spam spells with shaman stone / just a spell build, pogo when you can and try to avoid getting too close to his side. also when he does that charge up huge infection thing, pogo over and abyss shriek as much as you can beside him while he's still idle

[keen thorn]

This is my best achievement on him
https://youtu.be/ZnXwDRjD43U?si=tuj_vC4Q8luQKRaf

[paper wharf]

I just think he’s very unpredictable

[keen thorn]

Probably the jumps or the slam

[paper wharf]

When he falls or jumps

[keen thorn]

Jumps you really want to hold your ground, see what Zote is commiting to

If you see left or right you can walk and do a turnaround jump

If he's gonna fall on you you have dash

[civic ridge]

this is you??

[keen thorn]

Yes

[civic ridge]

brother you play so good wth

[paper wharf]

Yeah bro i get it ive done p5 i know how to do zote properly now

[civic ridge]

how

[keen thorn]

My name should explain it

[civic ridge]

oh f

damn

u beaten pale court?

[keen thorn]

Well, you don't know enough, that's why you complain. And again, that is normal. But you can always learn more

Right now I'm breaking my head with hitless dashless elder hu

I don't know what to do

[subtle glacier]

genio is my favorite godhome sweat

[keen thorn]

But I know it is consistent

I just have to develop it enough

I'll probably have to ask teano...

[paper wharf]

I’m not really complaining thats just how the boss works

[subtle glacier]

any damage reduction? or just nail4

[keen thorn]

Full gear

The issue is triple pancakes

[civic ridge]

u beaten pale court yet?

[keen thorn]

Yes

Actually I did some silly PC challenges

[subtle glacier]

i've done radiant dashless hu twice

[keen thorn]

https://youtu.be/PyJdyx3J6KE?si=hkEMc2_7E-9vQi8W

[subtle glacier]

it's rng

[keen thorn]

I mean I can do it, probably with like 75% consistency

[subtle glacier]

surely

[keen thorn]

But that is not enough

[keen thorn]

I thought it had figured it out, but he pulled a mirrored pattern out of his ass

[civic ridge]

tell me how to beat the other bosses. I beat kindly isma after 3 to 4 hours of her constantly shitting on me

[maiden echo]

Probably not

[brittle otter]

Nothing in planet is more rng than feather from celeste

[maiden echo]

Only spell i use is d dark and shade soul when he summons the volatile zotelings

[keen thorn]

The stun actually lasts the same, and yes it's safe, but the windows are precise

Which one did you try

[keen thorn]

Isma is just so weird as a whole

[civic ridge]

right!

[keen thorn]

And there's so much chaos, what is killing you?

There's the random spawn positions

[civic ridge]

no I did just beat her

[keen thorn]

The weird plant shooters

The acid backdash

[civic ridge]

after 4 hours

[keen thorn]

Ah MB lol

[civic ridge]

pop 2 took me like 1 hour

but her omg

[keen thorn]

Well you can see that ze'mer video lol

Ze'mer is very linear, just dodge and react.
Dryya I also r04'd, she's very similar to PV, just more frantic and no teleport
https://youtu.be/Zt0Aghg_yr0?si=3slh9k0HYmC52yIO

[civic ridge]

i wanna ask u something

[unkempt trench]

Guys, I finally defeated The Radiance 🥳

[keen thorn]

GG!

[civic ridge]

will it count if I beat p5 until pure vessel and after that beat that fucking radiance with some help with mods?

jsut a little

[subtle glacier]

wdym will it count

[keen thorn]

Yeah

[feral mist]

I'm almost there

[keen thorn]

Yeah the game counts whatever

[subtle glacier]

like will the game count it, or will other people count it

[civic ridge]

like ethically and generally accepted

[keen thorn]

But I mean, the final boss of PC is harder than absrad

[civic ridge]

ohhh fff

[keen thorn]

So if you can't deal with AbsRad you can probably not do PC either

[civic ridge]

ggs I guess

[subtle glacier]

if you use mods to give yourself an advantage in p5 and then say "i beat p5" people will not agree

[keen thorn]

Yeah that

[civic ridge]

but how does one become like you or fireborn or other

[subtle glacier]

but its a singleplayer game so does it matter? not really

[keen thorn]

But you're not any less for doing it

Just don't brag

[civic ridge]

not until radiance. beat p5 till pure vessel and beat only radiance with some help with mods lol

[civic ridge]

I don't trust me

[graceful storm]

i personally would only use the enemy hp bar mod and the pure vessel skin mod

[subtle glacier]

i dont care

[civic ridge]

I just do get happy after beating a ridiculously strong boss

[subtle glacier]

then why make it less strong

[civic ridge]

have you beaten ar?

[subtle glacier]

absrad?

[worn hamlet]

choom's point still stands ._.

[civic ridge]

yes that

[subtle glacier]

mhm

[civic ridge]

ffffff

okay bro you're the boss then

[worn hamlet]

not really, he's just outlining what the majority of the community is likely to think based on experience

[civic ridge]

how do I do it tho man

[worn hamlet]

and tbh I can vouch for his points

[subtle glacier]

most people who you see talking in this chat are either playing the game for the first time, or have sunk a lot of time into the game and done most things

[worn hamlet]

purely vanilla

[civic ridge]

how do I beat ar

[worn hamlet]

or just no gameplay changing things

[keen thorn]

Choom did old nail only charmless radiant AbsRad up to climb

[civic ridge]

or do pale court

[keen thorn]

🐊 AbsRad - 🪜

[subtle glacier]

don't reference failed runs

i did cooler stuff

[worn hamlet]

prolly do absrad first bc pale court bosses are harder than absrad im pretty sure

[civic ridge]

how does one become that good. one who doesn't have that much time

[keen thorn]

That run was pretty much crono AbsRad done

[keen thorn]

It really is just practice

[worn hamlet]

u don't get good at skills without putting in the time

if u can't put in the time u don't get good

that's how life works man ;-;

[keen thorn]

But don't think I put all my time all of a sudden

[civic ridge]

i've beaten two of them, it's going fine till now

[subtle glacier]

downslash only radiant i think was the best one i've finished

[keen thorn]

I've been playing for 3 years

[worn hamlet]

though advice can definitely help

practice is the biggest part

[worn hamlet]

noice

[subtle glacier]

nma with wings for climb was also fun

[keen thorn]

Yep

[keen thorn]

Wait macaron!

[worn hamlet]

?

[keen thorn]

Hi

[worn hamlet]

hoi genio :D

[subtle glacier]

oh i didn't recognize them

[worn hamlet]

I've had too much low-energy time on my hands so I've been here more often XD

[civic ridge]

who is the person here that I could talk on direct for tips on specific upcoming pc bosses

[keen thorn]

If you can pinpoint what is killing you a lot I can give you advice to avoid it

[civic ridge]

or for when i play sk

ss

[keen thorn]

But that fight is too complex to just explain on full

[worn hamlet]

#hk-help is an amazing channel for that in my experience

ppl respond super quick

[keen thorn]

Me

[subtle glacier]

surely dyrati comes back

[keen thorn]

For PC tho, I don't think any of the current helpers have done it

Not even Lune iirc

[keen thorn]

True

I miss her

But she's told me she's been doing lots of cool stuff irl

[subtle glacier]

yippee

[civic ridge]

she must be off the rails then

i meant that in a good way

[keen thorn]

She did R5 at the same time as me
Actually she did hitless pale court too

She was also one of the kindest people I've met here

She's the goat

[subtle glacier]

between genio and greyfire, most questions about bosses in hkdisc nowadays get good answers

[civic ridge]

wow

[subtle glacier]

idk if i can say the same for overworld

[keen thorn]

Maybe choom should become active and help out on everything

[subtle glacier]

nah

[civic ridge]

do u guys just like play hk every day to get this good

[subtle glacier]

genuinely? yeah

[civic ridge]

and don't watch anime or series or play other games

[subtle glacier]

i play other games sometimes

[keen thorn]

I also play other games sometimes

But I mostly play HK yeah

And I try to play like 1 hour every day if I can

But I can't always

College takes time

[subtle glacier]

genio i finished the hard category of kama skip list

[worn hamlet]

o interesting

never knew that

[civic ridge]

or study, or water the plants, or give your baby sister swings, and take care of your cat and try to earn some money

[keen thorn]

Also I don't watch series

Lol

[subtle glacier]

i try to be really competent at everything i do

that usually means i do fewer things

but job + school + hollow knight

[proper thunder]

I've made a big mistake

[subtle glacier]

good enough for me

[pliant bough]

https://tenor.com/view/otter-otters-nutria-gif-25743548

[graceful storm]

how the hell r u supposed to watch everything during failed champion boss?

[civic ridge]

college is destroying my ass

[keen thorn]

Yep!

Thankfully I don't have or need a job

So I can do other extracurriculars

[civic ridge]

wdym by need

[keen thorn]

But also HK is my hobbie

[keen thorn]

Scholarship + my parents help me always

[tulip narwhal]

@young lake

[keen thorn]

They're the goats

[tulip narwhal]

Can you like my new YouTube video

[civic ridge]

ur parents must be rich

[proper thunder]

y'all I just discovered trope master Grimm

I'm scared

[keen thorn]

No lol

Well it also helps I don't live in the US

[civic ridge]

oil factories probably

[keen thorn]

College is not 100k per year

[subtle glacier]

education being affordable

[civic ridge]

oh damn, where do you live then

[keen thorn]

True!

[keen thorn]

🇲🇽

We're very fucked in other aspects tho lol

[fiery trench]

I mean I have psuedo free education
although its not free nor is it good

[keen thorn]

True!

[civic ridge]

lmfao

[young lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315484539245690920/1462279403630497934/twitter_2012377107213541666.gif

dont ping me again mr floggy goggy.

[cold escarp]

Question Which boss is harder Pure Vessel or Nightmare King Grimm

[young lake]

you won't like what comes next.

[fiery trench]

Pure Vessel

[fiery trench]

what if I ping u then?

[tulip narwhal]

OH IM SORRY PLEASE DONT KILL ME

[civic ridge]

dude its like 4 am. ive been at isma since like 11 and now my eyes are closing. I wanted to beat ze'mer too today but this discord is so addictive bruh

I mean it is past 12 so that means it's still today

[fiery trench]

pick one
sleep or grind

[civic ridge]

i'm gonna send you a req brutha genio from mexico

be rdy to give me tips

[young lake]

you get like ignored

or blocked

[civic ridge]

both

[fiery trench]

works for me

[young lake]

probably not blocked

i only block the annoying 12 year olds with a grimm pfp

[tulip narwhal]

I can’t believe you would do that

[graceful storm]

whats wrong with grimm?

[worn hamlet]

it's not what's wrong with grimm

[tulip narwhal]

He’s like a dance guysss #theydontgetit

[proud haven]

I am so bad at hk I died again to oro and mato in fury elegy p5

[worn hamlet]

it's what's wrong with the majority of the ppl who have him as their fav

[young lake]

every person who has come into hkmain with a grimm pfp that i have seen is like a annoying 12 year old who thinks that nkg is like a dance and they're like miserable to talk to

[worn hamlet]

(key word majority, there's grimm pfp's that're completely normal. They're just either a quiet majority or a minority)

please change ur wording ._.

[glacial tundra]

"i am so bad - got to oro and mato with fury elegy" do not go together

[civic ridge]

abdsolutes

[fiery trench]

I mean thats what happens with fury elegy
u either get no hit or die immediately

[young lake]

r u doing p5 with

fury and elegy only ? ? ? ? ?

thats awesome

[proud haven]

Obv having 1hp means I die fr

[proud haven]

Omg no sorry i just meant the main aspect of the run is elegy fury I also have qs and unbreakable strength and sbody

Lifeblood deactivates elegy

[young lake]

oh lmao

[proud haven]

Unfortunately

[young lake]

either way a run like that is awesome

gl connor

[proud haven]

I am trying so hard to get good

At this evil evil game

[subtle glacier]

hop bingy

get good the good way

[fiery trench]

aren't we all

[fiery trench]

but, but pain and suffering

[proud haven]

Nah gotta get good through fury elegy

So I can tell people it's actually really good

[young lake]

i should do bingy one day

[proud haven]

They say if you do bingy you explode

[fiery trench]

why does doing bingy make u explode?

[subtle glacier]

explode with talent

[fiery trench]

oh

-# if only it was literal

[subtle glacier]

i love bingy

its like speedrunning if you didnt have to hate yourself

[naive dew]

rift of the necrodanccer

[proud haven]

I heard bingy was impossible

[strong skiff]

🦦

[naive dew]

choombear

roma

[strong skiff]

bingy mentioned!!!

hellone

bingy

[naive dew]

i love biingy

[strong skiff]

bingybingybingy

hop

[fiery trench]

triple bingsanity

[naive dew]

when the bing is y

[worn scroll]

Is this good for a 1st play through

[fiery trench]

...

.......

[worn hamlet]

depends if u used guides or not

[worn scroll]

Only for exploring and like 2 or 3 times

I asked AI too cuz i didnt know how to complete the game 112%

[worn hamlet]

yeah that speeds up the game exponentially

also ai is the exact same as using guides ._.

[worn hamlet]

especially bc it was for exploration as opposed to learning a boss

[worn scroll]

So its not that much of a thing

[umbral dirge]

I have like 100+ on my first play through and only 111%😭

[worn hamlet]

yeah that's normal for a blind playthrough

around 100 hours is when ppl on blind playthroughs tend to get 112 in my experience

or get stuck on the last %

[umbral dirge]

I mean did afk a whole lot and only used guide for shaman stone

[worn hamlet]

wdym used guide for shaman stone 😭

[umbral dirge]

But can't beat pure vessel

[worn scroll]

I used guids for some charms only and hidden places

[umbral dirge]

Isn't that the charm that's hidden in resting grounds?

[worn hamlet]

no?

[fiery trench]

thats soul eater

[worn hamlet]

I think ur thinking of souleater

[worn scroll]

I just did today dude i feel so relaxing

[umbral dirge]

That then

[worn hamlet]

the upgraded version of soul catcher right?

yea that's eater

[fiery trench]

is there a spring and autumn variant of the winter skin

I know there's summer but not those 2

[umbral dirge]

Skins? In hollow knight?

[worn hamlet]

no idea

[worn hamlet]

mods

[fiery trench]

ok so there's a newborn spring but none for autumn

sadge

[worn hamlet]

sadge indeed

[inland patrol]

Fuck I just lost 300 geo

[worn hamlet]

rippies

[fiery trench]

where'd u die both times

[shadow lily]

thats not so bad

[fiery trench]

geo is geo

[shadow lily]

give it all to the fountain

on god

[lapis sail]

Yoo I got 112%

[quartz cave]

what are these underground games gng 😭

[fiery trench]

ggs

[fiery trench]

never

[fiery trench]

its a peak game and has a LoZ crossover how do u not know it?

[inland patrol]

One time I forgot about about the exploding corpse second time I got pushed into the acid

[fiery trench]

damn

[quartz cave]

whats LoZ..

[fiery trench]

Legend if Zelda

[languid gale]

zelda of legend

[quartz cave]

oh

never played that either

[languid gale]

Zelda is goated asf

[fiery trench]

not sure why but I honestly believe that

[young lake]

osbald..

[quartz cave]

@young lake

[young lake]

@quartz cave

osbald whats your favorite song

[quartz cave]

uhhhhh i dont really have one

it changes like every week

right now or all time fave?

[young lake]

all time

lock IN

think

[fiery trench]

okay Summer is straight gas

or would it be heat in this case

[civic ridge]

wth ze

ze'mer was easy af

[quartz cave]

id say picture you but i listened to that like 1.4k times last year and bored myself out of it...

so im gonna say Pools by Samia but the stripped version

or idkkk

[young lake]

this better be the best song EVER

[quartz cave]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5zlxkhxG7ICPmq8x3GSPy8?

[young lake]

this better overtake the song i have 52k minutes on

[quartz cave]

WHAT

which song is that

[young lake]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1D8rPH0aDdngu30BGaz67B

[quartz cave]

sigh

[young lake]

only good thing to ever come out of celeste

its either this or

[quartz cave]

youre gonna make me get up

to get my earbuds

[young lake]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4b59u2E74KcDuyHCRBkf5v

[young lake]

if u want more of an actual osng listen to this one :')

[fiery trench]

whats the mod called again?

[young lake]

quiet and fallings just more for calming me down its very repetitive

[graceful storm]

how the hell do u beat hornet sentinel

[young lake]

also this is

good

[civic ridge]

pale court

[fiery trench]

stay calm and dont bomb rush

[quartz cave]

is this ch5 😰

[civic ridge]

kidnly isma and ze'mer are done 3 more to go

[young lake]

yes iirc ?

[keen thorn]

Gg

[young lake]

Hey this song does not put me in a happy mood why does this sound fucking tragic

[keen thorn]

Btw I have a playlist of all my radiant PC bosses if you wanna check something quickly

[civic ridge]

i sent you a msg bruh

[keen thorn]

And also there are lots of other cool clears out there

[civic ridge]

am i missing something out with ze'mer

[keen thorn]

Message request lol

[civic ridge]

?

[keen thorn]

No, ze'mer is quite easy

Very linear and predicate

[quartz cave]

wait lowk this is fire

[civic ridge]

who should i do next?

[keen thorn]

I'd say Dryya

[fiery trench]

alr time to get my ass kicked by bosses I have no practice with
yippee

[civic ridge]

aight bruh

[civic ridge]

u gonna try pc??

[fiery trench]

I have abyssal bloom already worn lmao

[young lake]

ikr !!

[fiery trench]

I've done it before but stopped

[civic ridge]

how far?

[fiery trench]

did not know my 112% already has abyssal bloom on

[fiery trench]

beat all of it

[young lake]

i have 33k minutes on that one :')

[fiery trench]

but its been like 10 months

[quartz cave]

we LOVE samia for that

[young lake]

the songs like realllyy slow and like kinda melancholic feeling at the same time

[civic ridge]

where was dryya again

[young lake]

the songs like realllyy slow and like kinda melancholic feeling at the same time

[fiery trench]

Na I open my 112% save and check charms to be greeted by this

[young lake]

the songs like realllyy slow and like kinda melancholic feeling at the same time

[fiery trench]

Na I open my 112% save and check charms to be greeted by this

[fiery trench]

queens garden, outside of white lady repose

[fresh isle]

gmcb

[young lake]

el*ki

[quartz cave]

NOOOOOO

spotify bugged and it reset the music

[fiery trench]

hello

[quartz cave]

what the fuck is happening

are my messages going thru

[young lake]

dude why is

my

discord

[fresh isle]

oh my god same

[young lake]

ok im glad discord is fucking exploding for everyone

[quartz cave]

???

[fiery trench]

Open my save, check charms, and greeted by this
I have not used pale court on this save

[fresh isle]

hop

[digital abyss]

@fresh isle exoracer,,,

[quartz cave]

all messages are like quadruple sending

[young lake]

rip

[fiery trench]

it was for me
why ur glad is beyond me though

[tulip narwhal]

Gmcb

[quartz cave]

IT RESET AGAIN

[young lake]

better discord explode for EVERYONE instead of just me

[quartz cave]

fml

[young lake]

ok i really liked this song :')

[quartz cave]

yippiesss

[young lake]

not a joyful song though wtf is ur problem

[fresh isle]

hop on rando 4 + grass rando + geo rando + journal entry rando + lever rando + breakable wall rando + bench rando +,,,

[quartz cave]

joyful songs dont hit super idk why

[maiden echo]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-wiggle-shake-cute-no-gif-22813688

[fiery trench]

but why?

[maiden echo]

I don't understand anything anyone is saying and im going to start violently shaking, as demonstrated by this public domain seal gif

Why did it send like that

[fiery trench]

seal?

[quartz cave]

el*ki is bingyrotted

[young lake]

i mean true ig

[fiery trench]

like sealed siblings, the best hk ending and my position will not be changed

[maiden echo]

I have sealed a bomb in your mailbox

[worn hamlet]

isn't the hk ending objectively better than sealed siblings?

Not even taking into account dream no more

[graceful storm]

if i hit hornet during her dive, can she be knocked back?

[fiery trench]

I wish to drag as many lives into permanent sleep as possible

[fresh isle]

https://open.spotify.com/track/1zB4vmk8tFRmM9UULNzbLB?si=fa68c271cadd4d3c @young lake i heard you were looking for a happy song... i just found this one! its a "banger!" hope this helps!

[digital abyss]

DIE

[worn hamlet]

oh

[fiery trench]

possibly, though I just run away from her

[fresh isle]

:(

[worn hamlet]

if you want them to suffer why not embrace the void?

[young lake]

youre so lucky youre a mod in this server

[digital abyss]

i didnt mean it im sorry,,,,,,

[fresh isle]

what does that mean

[worn hamlet]

then you just replace one apocalypse with another

[grizzled elm]

As soon as that happened I closed the game, I haven't even killed Hornet in the second encounter yet 😭😭

[fiery trench]

bcuz thats not me killing them

[worn hamlet]

fair enough

[fiery trench]

welp, ggs for u
u'll find a way out

[worn hamlet]

fair in the most twisted way possible, but fair indeed

[quartz cave]

sardine give more music reccs pls

[grizzled elm]

Do you recommend I go into the deep nest? You opened a hole up there.

[grizzled elm]

I can get a tram pass, it's not very easy, but...

[fiery trench]

if u have lanturn, then yes
if u don't, then get out

[quartz cave]

wtff ☹️

[grizzled elm]

I already have the flashlight.

[quartz cave]

im welling up listening to this

u cant do this to me

[worn hamlet]

bro what

[grizzled elm]

Okay, it's time to enter the deep nest even before the abyss. 😭

[worn hamlet]

how are you tearing at the song Thunder

literally how

it's uplifting not depressing ;-;

[quartz cave]

-# (/s)

[worn hamlet]

o

whoooops

[near geyser]

I recommend you never go there.😂

[young lake]

i dont really like much songs with lyrics i like very vibey instrumental songs :') idk if thats something youd be interested in

[fiery trench]

far too late

[quartz cave]

i listen to anything

anything good*

[tall marten]

Are the pantheons required to fight radiance?

[near geyser]

Figured.

[worn hamlet]

tbh my taste in music only applies if im not hanging out with someone

[fiery trench]

Absolute one, but not normal

[fresh isle]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0euyZh7zSUmpNXVpVBdcN2?si=c9c5892b2e8e4aa6

[tall marten]

Oki, thanks

[quartz cave]

eloki.

[quartz cave]

lockin

wtf 😭

[fresh isle]

hi oswald!

[worn hamlet]

like I will immediately vibe to any song (assuming it's at least decent quality) if the other person is vibing to it

[tulip narwhal]

Sakupen circles song

[quartz cave]

hi..

[worn hamlet]

or pretending well enough to fool me into believing their vibing to it

[fresh isle]

why is everyone being mean to me..

[quartz cave]

sorry eloki

[digital abyss]

i'll be nice if you fix my wifi and mine titanium

[quartz cave]

https://open.spotify.com/track/7gHs73wELdeycvS48JfIos?

hop

[fiery trench]

the less I deal with involving ur issue rn the better

[fresh isle]

yooo no wayyyy this is sooo fireeeee

[worn hamlet]

oh yea alan walker is good

[light snow]

faded???

[worn hamlet]

I don't think I've listened to a song of his that I disliked

[light snow]

am i back in 2016

[civic ridge]

DONE

DRYAA DONE TOO

[worn hamlet]

knowing alan walker ye

[fiery trench]

one could wish

[digital abyss]

@fresh isle do you wanna see a cool thing i did

[fiery trench]

2 left =)

[civic ridge]

2 more to go

yes bro

[fresh isle]

sure

[digital abyss]

hmmmmmm

idk if you deserve to see it

[worn hamlet]

oh I have heard this song before

whoops

[fresh isle]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0jvoeZuiebstUeDhF6UkOn?si=1c8021362ae34e49 ojb this song reminds me of u

[civic ridge]

ze'mer and dryya were so much easier then that isma

[digital abyss]

shut.

[civic ridge]

genio??

[worn hamlet]

is this an actual song u listen to or smth u just looked up rn ._.

[worn hamlet]

bc if it's an actual song that'd be insane in the best way possible

:o

[fiery trench]

its insane how people have music taste
unless music that would put me into a mental facility if their lyrics were taken literally is a music taste

[fresh isle]

i listened to the artist

[worn hamlet]

yay video doesn't work for me

love thatt

[worn hamlet]

that's amazing

[fiery trench]

1. Ow
2. Why?

[digital abyss]

try harder

[digital abyss]

why what

[fresh isle]

this is a good clip

[worn hamlet]

confusion

nvm

my brain finished processing

[native bolt]

Path of pain progress rn

[civic ridge]

where would one find mightyhegemol

[worn hamlet]

no yeah it's really funny how a lot of ppl who get overstimulated easily by social interaction have the craziest music tastes

[digital abyss]

ikr

[worn hamlet]

in my experience at least

[fiery trench]

well I was asking why do AnyRad but then I remembered the answe would be along the lines of "for the plot"

[light snow]

yall dont know nun till you start listening to songs about the roman empire

[fiery trench]

remember where u put the city crest?

[graceful storm]

city crest statue

[digital abyss]

i do it so i can get roles in a discord server to boost my ego

[fresh isle]

i apologize

[fiery trench]

understood, have a good time

[worn hamlet]

like for me, I'll be annoyed by the most random sounds like crickets or by the clicking of certain computer mice

[civic ridge]

theres also pop2

[digital abyss]

you only have 1 role in that server, pipe down pipsqueek

[civic ridge]

oh kkkkk

[fiery trench]

but thats entirely optional suffering

[worn hamlet]

but then I'll also turn around and listen to the most unnatural sounding music ever occasionally

[fresh isle]

pipsqueak*

[digital abyss]

pupsqueak

[worn hamlet]

pippensqueak

[native bolt]

The one in silksong that leads to the surface?

[worn hamlet]

disclaimer: I have not read or watched lotr

I tried reading it but the pacing was too weird for me

[fiery trench]

me being annoyed by sound of rain but enjoying Nosk blasted in headphones at max volume

[fiery trench]

I have not read it nor will I read it

[worn hamlet]

dang

[civic ridge]

honestly I think for me pop 1 was harder than pop 2

[graceful storm]

hornet is the most random ass boss

[fiery trench]

sharp shadowing masochist

[fiery trench]

well u see, it can only get worse from here

[native bolt]

Lugoli is an ass boss

Dang it this is hk discussion sorry

[worn hamlet]

pop 2?

[fiery trench]

wrong game

[graceful storm]

?tag ontopic

[idle belfry]

keep sequel topics to the sequel channels #sk-help #sk-lore #sk-discussion

[civic ridge]

its in pale court

[fiery trench]

Abyssal Bloom trial

[civic ridge]

rlly fun tbh

[native bolt]

Sorry

[civic ridge]

lol

[worn hamlet]

;-;

[worn hamlet]

I see

[worn hamlet]

yea im good with my 112, p5 and radhog

[young lake]

can i kill you

[worn hamlet]

I don't feel the need for more achievements atp im just doing random mods occasionally

[tulip narwhal]

yea

You can try.

[worn hamlet]

:o

:oo

[digital abyss]

can i

[quartz cave]

@tulip narwhal

[fiery trench]

will u succeed?

[tulip narwhal]

Dont even try ik you wont be able to

[civic ridge]

the only boss I absolutely loved was nkg

[tulip narwhal]

HI OSWALD HI OSWALD

[worn hamlet]

personally my fav was gpz

not ragebait btw that's my genuine fav boss ;-;

[quartz cave]

hiiii phlegm hru

[digital abyss]

goated word

prob top 20

[tulip narwhal]

Dont call me that

[quartz cave]

soryy

[tulip narwhal]

Nasty word

No one has any respect for each other anymore

[worn hamlet]

yea throat snot sucks

[civic ridge]

thats crazy

[tulip narwhal]

Back in my day kids werent this rude

[quartz cave]

what about phlogiston

[civic ridge]

anybody got a cat?

[fiery trench]

istg I saw Fireborn's pfp in vc and fucking panicked lol

[fiery trench]

wish I did

[worn hamlet]

what I've been told by ppl far above my skill level is that the ppl who've put like around 3-4 hundred hours vibe much more with my boss tierlist than ppl who're intermediate/beginner lvl at the game

[tulip narwhal]

New country drop???

Phlogistan

[civic ridge]

my kitten doesnt drink from her bowl. she drinks from the same glass i do

[worn hamlet]

so for beginners my tierlist is full of extremely hot takes

[civic ridge]

i need help

lol

[quartz cave]

no thats a genshin impact mechanic

im sorry

[worn hamlet]

LOL

[quartz cave]

hii phlebotomy hyd

[civic ridge]

give me your tierlist

ill be the judge of that

[loud kiln]

hi oswald

hi flog

[tulip narwhal]

dude grr

[quartz cave]

@loud kiln hiii

hyd

[tulip narwhal]

Hey

[quartz cave]

hi astig gn astig

[left sparrow]

Good night osbald

[worn hamlet]

time to get canceled again :D

[digital abyss]

@levi

[worn hamlet]

btw some bosses are much higher than you'd think bc they're really important and well-made and well placed tutorial bosses imo

examples of that being false knight and traitor lord

yey :D

[tulip narwhal]

My name is levi

[digital abyss]

dude no it isnt

[tulip narwhal]

oh.............

you're right

[worn hamlet]

._.

[tulip narwhal]

Mb I mustve forgotten

[proud mist]

don’t you dare go disrespecting my boi dung defender like that

[worn hamlet]

the fact that dung defender is completely trivialized by such a core mechanic of the game as ddark upsets me deeply

hence why white defender is much higher up

[digital abyss]

hi daniel

[graceful storm]

heavy blows repels her away when u hit her during her dive or her dash omfg

[tulip narwhal]

Hihihi

Im daniel

[worn hamlet]

white defender can be trivialized too, but not by a core mechanic like a basic spell

not really

[graceful storm]

fr

[worn hamlet]

wait

I might be biased bc I have too many hours in this game ._.

[proud mist]

what was the list based on

[worn hamlet]

I barely even remember what a lot of things felt like to learn

[worn hamlet]

overall fun with the exception of tutorial bosses and their importance to learning different mechanics

also small disclaimer in case u didn't already assume this

the tierlist is based purely on my personal opinions and preferences

[proud mist]

well ofc

[worn hamlet]

the only thing I tried to be semi-objective abt is the ranking of tutorial bosses

[worn hamlet]

ye you'd think it's a natural thing to assume but alotta ppl don't do that for some reason ._.

fairr

I would say I empathize but it's been too long since I learned all the strats that I use to remember how difficult they were to learn

[proud mist]

is it like first play through type deal or what

[worn hamlet]

nope just my entire experience of the bosses

[proud mist]

ah

[worn hamlet]

not including radiant bc that tends to skew things over a ton

[proud mist]

then a very based list

[worn hamlet]

I don't really like including hitless experiences for fun bc that's just an entirely different type of challenge

[worn hamlet]

tysm :D

[worn hamlet]

total mastery vs casual fun

[proud mist]

mhm

[loud kiln]

🔥

[wild sierra]

https://medal.tv/games/hollow-knight/clips/lYRNJSrZvAzwp9gbM?invite=cr-MSw3aGIsNDU1OTEzNTU2&v=0

[proud mist]

i like dd bc he was the only boss i beat first try on my first play through

[worn hamlet]

yeah marmu is just plain bs

the strategy to beat her is so so so so simple

but actually employing it is so hard and sometimes just outright inconsistent no matter how good you are

[naive dew]

NOT underground

[worn hamlet]

like I could never imagine doing 04r marmu in my life

like I could never imagine doing 04r marmu in my life

discord can you please work

[finite ember]

lifekblood tank 👍

[worn hamlet]

discord can you please work

[proud mist]

tank and pray

[wild sierra]

^^^^^^

[worn hamlet]

XD

mine too for a bit

must be server issues

and that sometimes, it's optimal to side slash her for some reason

tbh all ik is that you're supposed to upslash at a really specific time right after marmu hits the ground

wrong msg order lol

[quartz cave]

holy shit what the fuck

the pic looks fire pun unintended

[loud kiln]

(I got burned like 3 times that class )

[worn hamlet]

dangg

[tepid bloom]

Hi

[worn hamlet]

hoi

[tepid bloom]

I have a Question for all you guys

[worn hamlet]

?

[loud kiln]

all of them are minor burns tho

[worn hamlet]

thas good

💀

[tepid bloom]

For you guys what are the worst oniric versión (hardest)

[worn hamlet]

the hardest boss?

or do u mean game version

[tepid bloom]

The hardest. Oniric boss

Like fallen champion

[worn hamlet]

is Oniric a game?

[tepid bloom]

Or ma Idk

[worn hamlet]

ohh hardest dream boss

[tepid bloom]

Or ma Idk

[worn hamlet]

including or not including the dream warriors?

[tepid bloom]

Or ma Idk

Yeah

Yeah

Like

All

All

All dream bosses

Like

I’m not eanglish and in spanish it’s (onírico)

So I tought it was oniric

[worn hamlet]

dw

ye just looked up oniric

[native bolt]

It’s okay

[worn hamlet]

it works, I've just never heard the word before lol

[tepid bloom]

Ok

[worn hamlet]

prolly nightmare king grimm

[native bolt]

Yeah mkg

Nkg

[tepid bloom]

Oh I forgot about he….

[worn hamlet]

honestly same for a bit

[tepid bloom]

I fcking hate the dream versión of the boss for the monarch wings

Idk his name

[worn hamlet]

real, lost kin is pretty difficult

very unpredictable boss

[tepid bloom]

And his ghost…..

That the ting that i hate

[worn hamlet]

mm

[native bolt]

Lost kin is my first and only dream boss i have beaten

Might do white defender or soul tyrant as my 2nd

[worn hamlet]

anyways brb ima go eat some lunch

or maybe not brb, since I'll be back prolly when most of u are gone

bai

[native bolt]

Radiance would be one of the hardest dream bosses

[tepid bloom]

Uhhhh

I forgot about radiance too

😭

[native bolt]

She would technically be a dream boss right

[tepid bloom]

Yes

[graceful storm]

hornet casually walking and jumping across the arena and ending my radiant run cuz contact damage:

[tepid bloom]

I was like omg this game it’s not that hard but the moment that i fight whit him…

In that moment i transform in a masochistic

Like all hk players

I Did not advance the histori before i kill him

And I beat him

Like 1 day

(Radiance took me 45 m😭😭)

[polar niche]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hornet-schizophrenia-gif-19733445

[graceful storm]

how do u tell when hornet is gonna dash or throw her needle?

both telegraphs are the same ngl

[keen thorn]

elo*i

No I was stuck in the past :(

[civic ridge]

tips for hegemol

hey genio man

pick up my request man

[maiden echo]

From pale court?

[civic ridge]

yes

dude just does alot and contact with him does 2 damage

[grizzled elm]

Gg

I defeated that boss and won some pale ore.

[novel patrol]

how r u playing on mobile

[thorny hill]

Unofficial port

[grizzled elm]

Yes

[novel patrol]

can u even get it on ios

[grizzled elm]

Unfortunately, I wouldn't do that if I had a PC.

[grizzled elm]

I don't know, I use Android.

[agile zephyr]

Shade Cloak.

[tall marten]

Does ||grimm's flames ignore shade i-frames?||

[subtle glacier]

no

[tall marten]

So i am just horrible at timing

Got it

[subtle glacier]

hate to break it to you

but yeah the only things that ignore shade cloak are like hazards

[fiery trench]

tok me 5 attempts (including 3 where my dumbass tried to use sharp shadow strats) but I beat Dryya

[graceful storm]

bro hornet jumped twice, landed on the ground both times, then jumped again and did her dive

bitch was tryna do her pogo right🥀

[fiery trench]

just wanted to make sure u were cucked

[graceful storm]

?

[fiery trench]

she triple checked the move just to see whether u wer prepared for her to not

[nocturne saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381810219235020990/1452175171174662145/textbox.gif

[graceful storm]

dont pogo hornet into a stagger

bad idea

[undone grail]

how to get like 300 esscence

[maiden echo]

Beat some dreams bosses