hk-discussion

[foggy sable]

hi choom

[hallow kettle]

For people who cant attack up yes

[subtle glacier]

buh buh buh bingy

[foggy sable]

I've been on the overworld grind

[strong skiff]

lmao

[hallow kettle]

Bit if you can attack up you can stay still

[uneven hare]

What kind of hqte do you have on sharp shadiw

[opaque citrus]

is this like legal

[quasi crane]

have you ever tried a radiant boss!?

[foggy sable]

sbody is actually top tier

[foggy sable]

you could indeed say I have

[quasi crane]

yeah depends if your good with it

[keen thorn]

Watch this clip
https://youtu.be/S3BjHrhmQeo?t=22m45s

[stark marlin]

1. I already figured that out, but this took me way more time than phase 1 (which is almost indifferent to normal version)
2. what shriek I don't have no shriek

[hallow kettle]

But in some fights it backfires because you need to be super close to the boss to be able to upper hit, and other times you cant even do an upper hit

[quasi crane]

do you have howling wraiths?

[opaque citrus]

push button for snale

[foggy sable]

I don't hate it I just think it is worse than useless

[hallow kettle]

Just spam the nail on him

[foggy sable]

I have been known to mess around with it though

[keen thorn]

Dashless R5 has changed my opinion massively

[quasi crane]

if not then just nail spam, it doesnt change too much

[keen thorn]

I love ln

Nope
It's incredibly general for literally everything

[hallow kettle]

In my opinion mark of pride is trash

[dark cove]

i like how hornet is canonically referred to as "the gendered one" it makes me giggle so much

[keen thorn]

It's just also hard as fuck to use well

[foggy sable]

look, I run longnail in nail binding

[hallow kettle]

Because it is given in the beginning of the game

You get used to it

[foggy sable]

but I know that it isn't good outside of more niche runs

[stark marlin]

nonono
I have both spells upgraded to their black versions though
both shade soul and mega knight

[quasi crane]

its longnail with more cost but more effectiveness

[hallow kettle]

And you cant not get used to it

[foggy sable]

anyway MoP is top tier

[quasi crane]

wraiths is the third spell……..

[foggy sable]

because range is safety

[hallow kettle]

It is just so good that you cant stop using it

[quasi crane]

its the up spell

[hallow kettle]

It is just like coke

[quasi crane]

you get it in queens gardens

[vestal oxide]

Me but with quick focus

[stark marlin]

Guh maybe he'd be easy if I had it
anyways I'm not here to get tips on soul tyrant but to explain how I love hiveblood

[foggy sable]

it in my opinion gets better the better the player, like sbody

[keen thorn]

That's not using flukenest well

There's a difference between just shooting flukenest and abusing flukenest

[hallow kettle]

Wait how many precepts are there

[keen thorn]

It's only S tier in the latter

[finite ember]

57

[foggy sable]

but anyway back to this carefree is a 3 notch charm with only about 27% increased hp

that isn't worth it

[hallow kettle]

Oh ok

It seemed so much more when image is compressed

[stark marlin]

what does it do?

[uneven hare]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[hallow kettle]

Dont get it

[foggy sable]

has a chance to block damage starting at 0 and increasing by 10% per hit taken until it blocks and is reset

[hallow kettle]

Dont

[quasi crane]

Hiveblood is useless because if you can dodge for long enough to heal once or twice you should be able to be consistently not get hit

[keen thorn]

You can also get unlucky runs

[quasi crane]

it saves radiant boss fights so much

[foggy sable]

I have never unironically used it

[quasi crane]

literally everyone who does anyrad uses it

[foggy sable]

anyrad is not base game

[finite ember]

also something interesting: the statue of zote in the great ordeal room has 57 wanderers journals behind it indicating the 57 precepts.

[stark marlin]

This is untrue
Some bosses have very scarce healing windows
like good luck healing on queens garden warrior dream, heck no

[hallow kettle]

But if you relt on carefree melody to beat radiant that is you cheessing them

And I hate chease

[foggy sable]

incorrect, there is a reason every top player has the same top 5-10 charms

[quasi crane]

mostly other than quick slash strength and shamman stone

[foggy sable]

(same in power rankings not in enjoyment)

[stark marlin]

So a defensive charm? Sounds okay, though my current build is packed:
quick focus, hive blood, mark of pride

[finite ember]

does carefree melody negate hits in radiant?

[quasi crane]

i never used it in the bosses ive done radiant on but i sure as fuck will on markoth

[keen thorn]

Charm power is both incredibly subjective and objective
Knowing which is which takes a lot of knowledge and experience that for the average Joe it's just subjective

[quasi crane]

Yes

[hallow kettle]

I wont use it on radiants

[foggy sable]

anyway carefree isn't good in radiant because it costs 3 notches

[keen thorn]

But yes, there's a reason pro's opinions are extremely similar

[hallow kettle]

As I dont want to beat nkg rn

[finite ember]

2

[dusk mango]

[foggy sable]

and those 3 notches have better uses

[keen thorn]

Yep

[quasi crane]

i have it cuz i never fought nkg

[finite ember]

is it worth it to use it in rad absrad??

[quasi crane]

like what

[hallow kettle]

I only beated 15 radiants

[foggy sable]

it is an opportunity cost rather than being an active negative

[quasi crane]

yes

[foggy sable]

soul eater, MoP, strength, shaman, qs

the main charms used for hitless

[hallow kettle]

Should I fight grimm now or traitor lord in radiant

[finite ember]

https://tenor.com/view/job-application-gif-3515684064707868771

[charred forge]

grimm

[hallow kettle]

Why is that

Traitor lord is just spamming dash

[stark marlin]

shaw man?
I'd pass
You have to learn to dodge/heal anyway, and making the fight shorter by a margin won't negte that

[foggy sable]

the boss rankings are where all the good players differ

[charred forge]

bc its easyier

[quasi crane]

I dont use mop and are you seriously talking about opportunity cost and saying soul eater is better???💀

[hallow kettle]

Traitor lord is easier

Than grimm

[crisp willow]

Can we just agree QS has no (niche non included) down sides /j

[foggy sable]

soul eater is one of the best charms for radiant

[charred forge]

nah

[hallow kettle]

I did him to ascended in like 4 less tries

[quasi crane]

…

[foggy sable]

4 notches so overcharming it is more efficient

[keen thorn]

This was for radiant

[quasi crane]

same with carefree melody

[crisp willow]

Over charm with king's soul

[foggy sable]

+70% soul gain or something silly

[finite ember]

it is bad in radiant markoth, also really bad in p5ab

[keen thorn]

Your most expensive charm costs 1

[hallow kettle]

Kingsoul is best one for radiant souls

[crisp willow]

Ab? Seriously?

[finite ember]

yes

[crisp willow]

YOU HAVE NO CHARMS IN AB YOU BUFFOON

[foggy sable]

kingsoul gets replaced by the time you try p5

[hallow kettle]

Why get void heart when you can get kingsoul

[finite ember]

it has no use there

[finite ember]

exactly

[quasi crane]

i use qs, strength, shamman, steady body, and melody for radiant bosses

[hallow kettle]

I am not talking abs rad

[quasi crane]

and it works really well

[finite ember]

so its useless there. useless=bad

[foggy sable]

also kingsoul is super underpowered

the soul gen is so slow it should cost 2

[quasi crane]

i only take out melody for soul eater every once in a while

[stark marlin]

1. what's strength
   whyy is this server telling me to use a damage charm?

[finite ember]

ive never seen someone use kingsoul in my entire life

[foggy sable]

because it is bad

[hallow kettle]

How did you get void heart

[foggy sable]

but also because it gets replaced early enough after you get it

[hallow kettle]

It is the best charm to overcharm

[finite ember]

or because they get void heart

[quasi crane]

if you can beat the boss before it can kill you you wont need to heal

[finite ember]

you gotta ddark somewhere at the bottom of the abyss to enter a new area i think

[stark marlin]

I thought the whole point of these challenges is that the boss is difficult?

[foggy sable]

quick focus is the best defense charm by such a long way

[hallow kettle]

I mean how did you get it without kingsoul

[foggy sable]

perhaps combined with stalwart shell to break the game a little

[quasi crane]

you cant

[subtle glacier]

i love qf

bingyers overlook qf so hard

[uneven hare]

Quick focus is actually good in fights like pure vessel and nkg.

[foggy sable]

they do

[stark marlin]

That's the build that allows to "tank" single-mask hits as long as you have the soul?

[finite ember]

i mean that people get void heart by the time they get kingsoul

[foggy sable]

that is because qf is a good charm

[foggy sable]

yes

[hallow kettle]

Why do people heal in bossfights

[stark marlin]

It's always good

[hallow kettle]

It is a waste of damage time

[vestal oxide]

i used quick focus in my rad pv clear 🥰

[quasi crane]

my favorite build for non radiants. Quick focus, stalwart, melody, grubsong, and soul eater (theres 1 or 2 more i forget)

[foggy sable]

I can respect that

[quasi crane]

My best p5 run i had compass on

[stark marlin]

If you don't need to heal in bossfights it means you're fighting the wrong boss
challenge yourself more

[uneven hare]

Funny how the charm thats supposed to be beter thab quick focus is abstolutely shitass

[finite ember]

so you want the fights to last 20 minutes

[subtle glacier]

there’s a tourney match where the commentators got confused and started laughing when i equipped qf for colo but it saves so much time

[vestal oxide]

Yeah duh that's why it was your best run

[uneven hare]

Who genuinely uses deep focus

[hallow kettle]

My favorite hollow knight build might be controversial but it is quick focus, grummsong, defenders crest, and spore shroom

[vestal oxide]

Platforming

[uneven hare]

Waste of 4 charm notches

[hallow kettle]

And I spam focus

[foggy sable]

modded radiance players use df sometimes I think

[uneven hare]

Theres vetter options vro

[hallow kettle]

That was before I discovered there are black spells

[foggy sable]

no there aren't

[uneven hare]

Uh. Hiveblood

[foggy sable]

nope

[quasi crane]

… theres an entire difficulty of bosses that they all 1 shot you. If you can learn to do that consistently even on difficult bosses

[foggy sable]

just slower than df

[stark marlin]

I hate it
gosh I hate it
takes 3 years to heal so you are guaranteed to be hit back
And with quick focus you can heal 2 masks in similar time (though with more soul)

[uneven hare]

And where tf do you get souls

[hallow kettle]

Sporeshroom builds

[foggy sable]

grubsong

(+elegy)

[stark marlin]

Well that's an exception
1-shot is like the only moment where you don't go for defense

[finite ember]

you steal it from radiant markoth

[hallow kettle]

Sporeshroom quick focus+ deep focus+defender crest= easy coloseum of fools

[vestal oxide]

crazy

[uneven hare]

Aw hell nah

Shitass

[quasi crane]

what if your doing the same boss but it doesnt 1 shot you? Are you gonna forgot all the practice of no hitting them just so it can be a challenge?

[hallow kettle]

The best playstyle of the game

[foggy sable]

shaman stone + shade soul is easy trial of fools

[hallow kettle]

The focusor

[subtle glacier]

shaman + dashmaster = fast bingy

[hallow kettle]

That needs a bit of skill

[uneven hare]

No. Thats called being unable to make a build

[foggy sable]

the problem is hk is a solved game

which makes the discussions not as interesting

[vestal oxide]

in my clear i got hit so much i barely had soul for heals let alone spells

[hallow kettle]

Then you dont know about my other op builds

[uneven hare]

What skill does one need for spell spams

[stark marlin]

I mean if you first do the boss nohit and then do the normal one, it's reasonable to use a defensive build since the boss allows it

[quasi crane]

…

[hallow kettle]

To group the enemies

[uneven hare]

[hallow kettle]

And to not fall

[quasi crane]

but your NOT GONNA GET HIT

[stark marlin]

Trial of fools I'm sure is tiered after you get shade soul

[quasi crane]

so whats the point of using a defensive build

[foggy sable]

everyone knows twister, catcher, eater, longnail, nmg, shaman is the best build

[hallow kettle]

In my build they go near you while your focusing

[opaque citrus]

im okay, right?

[vestal oxide]

But you'll have the muscle memory from radiant practice and it's gonna be redundant at that point

[uneven hare]

[uneven hare]

Yes

[hallow kettle]

Oh

[quasi crane]

that happened to me once

[hallow kettle]

Actually it will now only take you like 15 mins to return

Cuz you got the skill

[stark marlin]

I mean if you learn so consistently to nohit every time then what's the point of equipping any charms?

[vestal oxide]

Nightmare ming grimm

[opaque citrus]

I RESPAWNED ON A BENCH

[uneven hare]

How tf did you reach that far just to die to the easiest mini boss

[opaque citrus]

JFGHJDKFGJHKNDJKHNHJKNDGFJH

[hallow kettle]

Yes

[opaque citrus]

i spent like 5 hours on that last stage

[foggy sable]

nkg is just a nmg victim

[hallow kettle]

This should take you 15 mins now

Believe me

[keen thorn]

Nkg is just a victim

[hallow kettle]

I died twice against them

[uneven hare]

Its not called path of masochist for no reason

[foggy sable]

yes but

[hallow kettle]

Isnt path of masochist P5ab

[quasi crane]

so you can go faster.. not all charms are defensive charms, some increase your damage capability

[uneven hare]

Nmg?

[quasi crane]

*RP5ab

[subtle glacier]

no major glitches

[hallow kettle]

What does R mean

[quasi crane]

radiant

[hallow kettle]

Is there a R

I need this

Now

Is there a radiant soul mod

[quasi crane]

no its just massochism

[hallow kettle]

Oh glass soul

[quasi crane]

glasssoul

[stark marlin]

I know
Well there are also semi-defensive charms that make you safer and have use on nohit
like mark of pride
So any ""pure offensive charms" like shamans are just qol

[subtle glacier]

https://youtu.be/wvdw34ykuoE?si=y1Za3jpOYzarTvhu

[quasi crane]

Mark of pride… increases damage capability

[foggy sable]

r5ab is awful

the thought is sickening

[quasi crane]

also theres a thing called a speedrun, people try to fight bosses FAST

[stark marlin]

But I count is as "semi defensive" as it both increases damage and lets you stay safer

[quasi crane]

and any extra damage will help

[quasi crane]

ok thats fine

[uneven hare]

Yk dude

[quasi crane]

its semi defensive and semi offensive

[uneven hare]

Sk discussion is weird

[subtle glacier]

i love things called speedruns where people try to do fights fast

[foggy sable]

choom you should teach these people of bingy

[stark marlin]

Oh that's another thing
Though the build that kills a boss the fastest is not the same build that kills the boss the easiest/most reliably

[uneven hare]

Sometimes people question how did pk crack both white lady and herra which is valid

[finite ember]

bros the king and leader of massochists

[subtle glacier]

he is definitely one of the best

[quasi crane]

it is because some bosses you can literally kill before they can attack

[uneven hare]

How did that midget crack white lady

[quasi crane]

i wanna do R7ab

[stark marlin]

If you can you're fighting the wrong boss

[subtle glacier]

that’s a real thing

[strong skiff]

lol hi corty

[subtle glacier]

be careful what you wish for

[strong skiff]

p7ab is NOT real

[quasi crane]

i know im on the 3rd boss

😭

[quasi crane]

yep

[strong skiff]

great champ is never happening ab

[quasi crane]

not all bindings tho i cant do that

[quasi crane]

you cant just say your fighting the wrong boss, some people are good enough at games to not get hit, should you just tell them theyre playing the wrong game?

no, its not reasonable

[opaque citrus]

im gonna ultrakill myself

[quasi crane]

hk is a difficult game, saying wrong boss is deflecting the fact that people are good at it

[opaque citrus]

ill spend like 3 mor hourz

[safe wraith]

which charms should i use for failed champion

[subtle glacier]

twister shaman is decent

wielder

[stark marlin]

If you can nohit everything and consistently the game no longer is challenging, is it?
But that's not my point, a boss nohit is a sign of skill
UNLESS it's by a speedkill
I wish hollow knight community introduced sometihng lke mnl

[safe wraith]

what

[subtle glacier]

wdym what

[safe wraith]

what is wielder

[subtle glacier]

twister shaman wielder

[strong skiff]

dream weilder

[subtle glacier]

spell twister
shaman stone
dream wielder

[strong skiff]

the charm in the game silksong

[safe wraith]

im talking about hk

[subtle glacier]

so am i he’s trolling

[safe wraith]

is dream wielder the one that only takes up one notch

[quasi crane]

Did you seriously just say speedkilling a boss isnt a sign of skill

[subtle glacier]

it’s cracked against failed champ

[safe wraith]

oh yeah

it makes dream nail faster

[hollow nova]

Speedrunners are worse at the game than me tbh

[safe wraith]

rn im using quick slash mark of pride and smth else i forgot

[stark marlin]

Unless you do it in some really artful way, speedkilling is generally cheesing, isn't it?

[quasi forge]

Worse at what portion

[hollow nova]

Hollow Knight

[real pasture]

That is a take

[strong skiff]

no its a troll

[subtle glacier]

making a good use of spells will change your failed champ fights dramatically

[real pasture]

[quasi crane]

not really, cuz you hae to know what your doing

[strong skiff]

speedrunners are probably worse than me at hkguessr

potentially

[safe wraith]

but i barely use spells bc i dont rlly get any soul

[strong skiff]

@subtle glacier can i have an image

[subtle glacier]

fair enough

[quasi forge]

Hkguessr is pretty easy

[quasi crane]

its really hard to speedkill most bosses

[hollow nova]

Anyway I feel like some speedkills would be easy and some would be hard it really depends idk man

[stark marlin]

"knowing what I'm doing" and "skill" are slightly different things
though I see how certain speedkills may be tricky

[hollow nova]

If someone is able to get good times for every boss I would probably consider them a great player

[strong skiff]

at suscar

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-24015903

choom rn

[strong skiff]

pale lurker idol

one more one more surely

[stark marlin]

Spamming some flukenest and using heavy blow
Yes it can be hard, but really is it harder than actually dodging the thing?
As a speedrun strat, I understand it
But speedkilling for the sake of it?

[strong skiff]

soul vessel from storerooms

[subtle glacier]

getting value out of flukes is much harder than it looks

[hollow nova]

speedkills are speedruns...

[strong skiff]

can i have something harder

[subtle glacier]

whether or not its hard is kinda rng

but ill try

[stark marlin]

So speedkills are exclusively a speedrun strat?

[hollow nova]

Speedkills are speedrunning a specific boss so uh yeah

[stark marlin]

I know that it's hard to abuse flukenest
But what's the point of instead of learning the boss we learn the flukenest strat?

[robust wolf]

speedkill watcher knights

[strong skiff]

whats the point of learning one strat if isntead we learn another strat

SO true

[hollow nova]

I can speedkill a watcher knight by dropping the chandelier on him
godtier skill tbh

[strong skiff]

ohh\

nailsmith?

[stark marlin]

"speedrunning specific boss"
I see...
However, since speedkills are often nohits, they should be considered separately from normal nohits

[finite ember]

from royal waterways ismas tear?

[strong skiff]

holdup i shouldve zoomed in

[molten forge]

Salutations

[real pasture]

You still need to learn when to use Flukenest to max dmg - so you still learn the boss, just different strat

[finite ember]

the ismas part

[strong skiff]

thats NOT nailsmith

[subtle glacier]

ok so flukenest is locked behind dive and whatever dps you need to kill flukemarm
most of the time it loses too much time to get flukenest, so most overworld speedruns other than 106, 107, and 112 don't use it

[strong skiff]

hmmmm

[stark marlin]

Well the difference is, the boss is much more interesting, complex, and different from other bosses than flukenest tech

[hollow nova]

Its still nohitting the boss vro

[strong skiff]

going off of that its a goal,cornifer in waterways

oh really

[hollow nova]

If you don't want to use a certain strategy to no hit a boss because you don't fw it fine but like who cares

[strong skiff]

i didnt think that bg object was there

[stark marlin]

But it's a strat that doesn't care if you are allowed to take damage or not
From a nohit challenge perspective, it's a cheese
There should be a mnl

[magic storm]

Hi ash

[subtle glacier]

its really not

you don't know how to fluke a boss but most people only see it when its practiced

[molten forge]

hello, i havent been in this chat in a while lol

[stark marlin]

"killing the boss before he does an attack" sure sounds like one

[magic storm]

When does the timer start

[real pasture]

No-hit full runs or pantheon runs with Flukenest are not as much easier (if any easier at all)

[subtle glacier]

what speedruns are you watching bro

you don't know what you're talking about

[hollow nova]

When the flies enter the watcher knights which means I got a 0:00:00 time

[strong skiff]

go and fluke a boss
you have 10 minutes for tries

if you fail youre wrong

if its not an isntakill

[stark marlin]

I'm not watching speedruns
Someone told me to "use shaman stone since if I kill the boss before he does an attack I can't die"

[strong skiff]

youre wrong

[hollow nova]

Blud watched one MMC quickkill

[subtle glacier]

if you're not watching speedruns why are you making this argument

[magic storm]

The watcher knight that you kill what number is that in order of when they get brought to life

[strong skiff]

ok this is fun but i shall stop procrastinating
Thank you

[subtle glacier]

i know you don't want to look stupid so why are you making such a big effort

[stark marlin]

Dodging the boss takes more than 10 minutes to learn from scratch properly
And flukenest you only have to learn once and adapt for every boss

[stark marlin]

I'm making this argument against shaman stone

[subtle glacier]

this is about SHAMAN?

[hollow nova]

err

[magic storm]

Also star you aren’t allowed in this channel what are you doing here

[subtle glacier]

why were we talking about flukes?

[stark marlin]

nohit speedkills were used in defence of shaman

[magic storm]

This is for hk non lore people

[hollow nova]

this community so toxic 💔

[subtle glacier]

p5 speedruns don't use shaman stone

case closed

[magic storm]

Says a resident of the channel that banned me

[hollow nova]

If I was mod none of that would've happened

[stark marlin]

shaman is merely a representative of "pure damage charms"
Flukenest is as well

[magic storm]

Because you would have banned me even earlier?

[hollow nova]

yes I'd have brought out the ban hammer as soon as I learned you played Collector

[unkempt trench]

Guys... It's a bit difficult... Can u give me some tips?

[magic storm]

Anyways the guy that banned me is gone so surely nothing will happen if I enter the lore channel again right

[subtle glacier]

i forgot, you were the person who tried to have a debate about lore 5 minutes after you beat thk for the first time with 57% completion right?

im sensing a pattern

[molten forge]

when you are talking about speed kills and no hits it really depends on all the context tbh. Do you start with soul? Are you strickly doing that boss? can you set up fury ahead of time? all determines what the optimal strats for boss are, If you are talking about watcher knights hall of god, i honestly dont know fastest strats

[hollow nova]

no one moderating the lore channels on god

[stark marlin]

why all your masks blue, it's joni blessing?

[magic storm]

[molten forge]

probably fluke & shaman tbh

[polar niche]

first get alot of good charms then try to git gud as said

[unkempt trench]

Yes, but it's not a good idea.

[hollow nova]

SO BASED

[stark marlin]

I was merely speculating
I was certain that I'm seeing some pattern in the lore
Such as now that I'm sure that Sly is the nailsage (I know it's stupid)

[hollow nova]

I hopped on #sk-lore before beating Silksong I'm ngl

[subtle glacier]

!wiki nailsage sly

[violet flicker]

https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Great_Nailsage_Sly
Not the correct result? Use !wiki page nailsage sly for a direct link.

[subtle glacier]

WOAH

WE DID IT GUYS

SLY IS A NAILSAGE

IM CERTAIN

[robust wolf]

lies

sly is sly

[magic storm]

Sly is Graig

[polar niche]

sly is yoda

[stark marlin]

He is? the one who taught the guy who taught me slash dash? Who sold me so many cool stuff?

[polar niche]

sound like him

looks like him

[magic storm]

Sly doesn’t teach you dash slash

[polar niche]

and fights like him

and is a greatsword user from souls like games

[real pasture]

“The guy who taught the guy”

[stark marlin]

he taugth the guy who taught me

[magic storm]

Doubling stuff makes me skip over them so I blame Corty for my error

[hollow nova]

if sly was cool he would be a greatsword user from monhun games...

[real pasture]

Seems legit to me

[polar niche]

idk what game that is

[magic storm]

@hollow nova should I delete my message in lore or will I be fine

[hollow nova]

i don't condone ts wtf

10% chance joker sees it

[magic storm]

I don’t want to get banned again so I deleted it

[magic storm]

Even if joker saw it I think him banning me for that is not so likely

But I’m not gonna risk it

[subtle glacier]

saving this

i love elitism ✊

[magic storm]

Me in bottom left

[vivid creek]

Doubt

The big spike at the start is fresh radhog completions imo

[real pasture]

Wow you can read a plot

[subtle glacier]

but can i WRITE a plot

[real pasture]

[magic storm]

Speaking of plots read wheel of time

Corty btw how old are you

[subtle phoenix]

uncalled for

[magic storm]

Cortys a friend we’re both adults and I know he’s older than me just not how old

[real pasture]

So old that the wheel of time was that of my tricycle

[magic storm]

Have you read wheel of time though it’s so good

[real pasture]

I have not, but heard from several people of

[magic storm]

You should

[real pasture]

But it’s a lot of volumes, right?

[magic storm]

I just finished the series recently

[real pasture]

Noice

[magic storm]

1.4 x 10^1 books

So like 1 book if you think about it

[real pasture]

That is an order of magnitude of books

[magic storm]

I’m reading the Witcher series now

[subtle phoenix]

oh

mb

[magic storm]

Fun fact the author of the Witcher refuses to attribute his success to the games and says his books made the games big

[deep knot]

sharp shadow is good

everyone who thinks otherwise is wrong

[lusty fiber]

[magic storm]

He originally sold the rights for $10k and refused royalties thinking it wouldn’t make any money

Then renegotiated when the games became huge

[frozen storm]

Tf u mean sharp shadow Is good?

It's horrible

[deep knot]

extra i-frames. free hits. longer dash.

literally the best

[sick mica]

sharp shadow is a good charm

[deep knot]

well the extra i-frames come from the dash being longer

[frozen storm]

Yeah but it doesn't stack with strength

[deep knot]

the extra damage part of it isn't what makes it good for me

it's the longer dash

[keen thorn]

The dash is actually not longer, your speed is faster, so time is actually equal

[deep knot]

the extra damage is just the cherry ontop

[vivid cave]

sharp shadow is the best charm after qslash

[keen thorn]

The distance is the reason you should use it not the damage

[deep knot]

no i am pretty sure the dash is longer

[keen thorn]

But still it's not a good chadm

[keen thorn]

It is longer but that's a side effect of it being faster

[frozen storm]

It's bad because if you sharp shadow into PV and he staggers you get free damage
On yourself

[keen thorn]

That's to say: it lasts the exact same time

[deep knot]

i see

[real pasture]

Wait wait: the I-frames are the same

[subtle glacier]

distance is longer, duration is not

[deep knot]

i see i see

hm well it gives more i-frames in my heart

[frozen storm]

It should be worth -1 notch

If you equip it, you get a free notch

[keen thorn]

Yes

[deep knot]

should come by default with void heart tbh tbh

[keen thorn]

The main use of sharp shadow is distance closing

That's the one time it is actually a really good charm

Otherwise it's just decent if you like it

[real pasture]

(But the dash is longer in terms of 1D displacement over an horizontal axis )

[magic storm]

Also the books weren’t even published in English before the games released

[deep knot]

it's 2 notches which makes it not that expensive

u could fit it in alot of builds

[magic storm]

I do enjoy the books so far but the author seems like a narcissist

[deep knot]

also i heard that apparently it isn't affected by the nail binding

[keen thorn]

No it isn't

[stark marlin]

Books were big before games released (opinion clearly unbiased by patriotism)

[keen thorn]

But the dps is too low for it to matter

[deep knot]

fair

[lapis sail]

I just died to pv on p4

I’m so upset

[deep knot]

they shoulda made it get affected by unbreakable strength instead of dashmaster

[keen thorn]

The dps is just a neat bonus as you said
It should never be the reason you use the charm

[magic storm]

The books were big just not outside of Poland

[frozen storm]

I mean people use it for a tiny bit damage boost

[deep knot]

i mostly use it for the extra distance

[frozen storm]

I use it for reducing hits to stagger

[deep knot]

altho it does get kinda hard to get used to normal shadow dash when u remove it

[stark marlin]

Rigth exactly
Games came quite soon
I imagine they'd be quite a success even on their own, but not nearly as much

[magic storm]

He attributes his international success solely to the books and refuses to admit the games had any impact on it

[lapis sail]

Heavy blow?

[frozen storm]

Basically enhanced heavy blow

[lapis sail]

A mod?

[keen thorn]

But it's not significant other than a placebo, it genuinely doesn't do much in the end

Stagger reducing is actually a decent use tho

But minions are better for that

[frozen storm]

Argh I hate minions

[magic storm]

im talking specifically about international success should have specified that

[marsh dew]

first binding done

[lapis sail]

Minions will hit the boss out of the stagger

[stark marlin]

Yeah you're right
They are much more of a success than they would in Poland as well
I'm not that stupid to argue with that seriously (though I know I seem to be)

[lapis sail]

👍

[keen thorn]

Stagger reducing is to make the boss stagger more times, that's really the goal. If you want to heal you should bring quick focus

[brisk snow]

hi

[delicate fjord]

wait did we have a sharp shadow discussion just a few minutes ago?

we still do that?

[lapis sail]

U could shriek during a stagger as well

[keen thorn]

You should only do this to soul master

And tyrant

[lapis sail]

Y not other bosses

[sick mica]

guys what is your favourite boss

[keen thorn]

Dung doesn't even count

[ancient ravine]

p5 done

[delicate fjord]

we should start having 1 hour long arguments about sharp shadow where neither party manages to convince the other again

[sick mica]

mine is broken vessel

[keen thorn]

Sheo jumps out of the way, it's better to shade soul for a double hit when not in a wall, otherwise just slash

[delicate fjord]

absrad

[keen thorn]

NKG and Grimm are capped at 50 damage

[ancient ravine]

damn it was though

[keen thorn]

PV can instantly attack in certain ways that is very tricky to dodge

You can but I don't recommend it

Sly is too short

[lapis sail]

Alr

[keen thorn]

GPZ is too short but wraiths works

Still ddark is better since he jumps out of the wwy

Hive knight can also insta attack

Hornet is too short but hornet 1 you can stun lock after a stagger not during

[lapis sail]

Grim/NKG

[keen thorn]

Collector you can also do after stagger not during

FC/Champ are hp based and different anyways

[lapis sail]

Hornet jumps into the shriek

[delicate fjord]

don't forget if you shriek lightweight bosses they can hit you with some knockback bullshit

[keen thorn]

Yes it's a silly strat

But h1 is h1

[lapis sail]

But ur right

[keen thorn]

Casting looking at the left will push enemies away, casting looking at the right will pull enemies into you

That's a consistent behavior

Oh also BV/LK are too short

[delicate fjord]

funny ass game 😭

[keen thorn]

Yep

It's nonsense but it is what it is

[lapis sail]

@delicate fjord nice pronouns

[delicate fjord]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507364684924452922/1458994474758836369/togif.gif

[copper spruce]

[quartz saddle]

guys maybe hollow knight's 3 final boss is the void he had big meals the radiance and the silk proagnosit or whatever final boss in silk song

[silk beacon]

👍

[uneven hare]

So far in my discord life. Ive nevr actually met a predator before. Which is good

[fringe yew]

I think it's time I finally stop stalling and try to get to Brazil (Bilewater)

Just need to get one more mask and kill Savage Beastfly #2 because I physically will not rest until that thing is dead in the lava

[nocturne shuttle]

Congrats

Radkoth is no joke

[maiden echo]

I need to do radiant markoth and absrad and I'll be done with hog

[nocturne shuttle]

I remember beating radiant abs rad AND markoth back to back

[nocturne shuttle]

Do you use elegy?

[maiden echo]

Yeah

[safe wraith]

what should i do after getting awakened dream nail

[young canopy]

I'm the goat

[nocturne shuttle]

From what I did, I would just play very slowly and get in as much elegy shots as possible, i didn’t really use spells so you could go mark of pride + longnail or something

[nocturne shuttle]

Congrats

[errant walrus]

hi

[safe wraith]

hello

[dark cove]

go visit that friendly dead knight near the hidden station! i hear hes looking for some company :D

[safe wraith]

oh really?

i will be his friend then 😄

[dark cove]

:D

[sleek bear]

What do y'all think of the song "no wind resistance!"

[errant walrus]

wait im back

nvm im going

[stark marlin]

Congrats!

[wide aurora]

hello,
doing some stuff in HK (whatever this is)

[dapper mortar]

Hello, these are what are called "Pantheons, " they are boss rush gauntlets with ten bosses. hope this helped!

[proud haven]

I've met at least 10

Nah more like at least 6

[rose ingot]

< 3

[proud haven]

I aws thinking big number surely ten

[rose ingot]

she's so cool

[proud haven]

She wanted to eat me

I read her mind

[rose ingot]

maybe you look like a fungus

[proud haven]

Oh maybe

i kinda do lowkey

Super fair

[rose ingot]

also fun fact she's probably trans as only male giraffe weevils have long necks

or intersex

[proud haven]

Team cherry locking in to make every character secretly lgbt+ but only in ways that are obvious to bug scientists

[rose ingot]

IM TIRED OF THEM PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WATER THAT TURN THE FRICKING BUGS GAY

just kidding more fruity bugs please

[frozen hull]

Truly a golden OOC

Thank you The Noise

[rose ingot]

pikmin hollow knight crossover 🔥✍️

[quiet prawn]

In the middle of pantheon 4 right now and my jump key stopped working all of a sudden. It's not a computer issue and it already happened to me once before

Okay it turned out my computer just randomly changed it's keyboard

[spiral sierra]

If there was grub dlc

[maiden echo]

Vitruvian grub

[rose ingot]

HOLD UP! HIS WRITING IS THIS FIRE?!

[rain nexus]

GUYS I BEAT RADIANCE FINALLYYYY

AFTER 2 WEEKS

[rose ingot]

CONGRATS
now do p5

[spiral sierra]

Ok so the grubberfly smith can help you upgrade the grubberfly elegy charm for adding new charm combos and instead of getting hit and losing it you keep it till you loose three masks (did I cook?)

[sick parcel]

Chat

[willow mica]

clapped radiances cheeks, imma go get bretta now, kill flukeworm then do collo 3

then garden and hunters

flower quest*

[sick parcel]

I always thought people were stupid for dropping the game at the crossroads

Cuz

"It's so easy to get out of there" I said with joys

Now im on my second play through

I lowkenuinely forgot what to do

[proud haven]

Beat false knight

[willow mica]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-is-real-larry-larry-cat-tuff-larry-larry-ai-gif-5026216384899942843

[proud haven]

Get spell

Go left to greenpath

[willow mica]

one sstep at atime

[sick parcel]

Thats the fatass cat

Right

[willow mica]

focus on void soul

then grubs eetc

[opaque wasp]

lol

[proud haven]

Nah that's not true

[rose ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/let-him-cook-cook-cookin-big-wok-gif-141999319614473134

[proud haven]

Is there a reason you have

[willow mica]

93% compelteion, im sadgenes, i got 2 endings already

next is mr shrrom

[wooden egret]

Best hollow knight thumbail oat?

[proud haven]

2

[willow mica]

theres 3

[proud haven]

Is there a reason that you have

????????

[dense linden]

Markoth after hearing what ya said

[willow mica]

please say theres 3

[proud haven]

Wdym have what

[proud haven]

There are 21 endings

[wooden egret]

Markoth is somewhat decent in p5 because you still have the floor

[proud haven]

For your markoth hatred the thing you were talking about when I responded to you

Duh

Obviously

[willow mica]

isnt rad markoth basically impossible?

[proud haven]

What no

It's not that bad

It's hard but it's not like

Undoable or anything

[dense linden]

Still he gonna go to hell

[willow mica]

is it harder than NKG

[proud haven]

IS THERE A REASON THAT YOU HAVE FOR YOUR MARKOTH HATRED

[willow mica]

cus nkg is considered hard, but the twinks easy

[proud haven]

AHHHHHHHH

[dense linden]

Bruh pick one traitor lord or GPZ

[proud haven]

Bro is this ragebait

[willow mica]

traitor lord

[proud haven]

Lmfao

Fuck got me laughing irl

[dense linden]

Same here GPZ has so many fake fallouts

[wooden egret]

GUYS

[dense linden]

I get confused when fighting

[proud haven]

I mean based ig I don't remember his lore outside of "warrior guy"

[wooden egret]

ZOTEBOAT OR HUNGRY KNIGHT II?

[quartz saddle]

guys when u get void hard dont u dream nail urself? doesnt that means when ur abt to cimb last parts and see ur brother and then fal means it was our character's memory?

[proud haven]

Zoteboat

Heroic

[dense linden]

Name one boss in hk or sk that deserves attention
Like when u look away from the screen your dead

[quartz saddle]

primal aspids should be a boss

[wooden egret]

"Our mind is a sea"
-a "godseeker"

[quartz saddle]

what was the hardest boss u faced in ur first time playing hollow knight

[proud haven]

Absolute radiance

[dense linden]

Nah bro I know they hard but many js got terrible skill issue

[wooden egret]

Mantis Lords

[dense linden]

Nice

But I want something else

[quartz saddle]

hornet and traitor lord took me 40+ tries and soul tyrant i couldn't even beat him

[wooden egret]

Sisters of Battle
NKG

[dense linden]

Hornet at kingdom's edge

[wooden egret]

Soul tyrant is easier with shade cloak

[quartz saddle]

yh

[wooden egret]

And strength

[quartz saddle]

i have shade cloak

but i cant still beat him

[proud haven]

Absolute radiance

[hollow nova]

Uhh the game isn't that punishing tbh

[wooden egret]

I had to cheese that boss with qs and stalwart shell

[hollow nova]

Unless you are doing like radiant I guess

[proud haven]

I mean when you're in a boss fight if you look away the boss hits you fr

[quartz saddle]

but it was fun fighting hornet

[hollow nova]

Most late game bosses probably

[proud haven]

No you're just not allowed to

[quartz saddle]

feels good when u defeat a boss with insane lost to him

[wooden egret]

Monarch wings?

[dense linden]

Quick soul and stalwart she'll ain't heard that combo before

[quartz saddle]

i have everything with 6 maks only but i cant still win

the abyss shriek is also useless to him

[dense linden]

Sure thing but why they treat it so

[proud haven]

That's fair fr
You will be muted or banned if you say ss spoilers here so you should avoid doing it for your own sake fr
People telling you not to post spoilers are secretly being so nice to you fr

[hollow nova]

Please don't tarnish our glorious channel with silkslop

[wooden egret]

It is pretty good cheese combo against hornet 2 and watcher knights. Once you get hit you keep charging at them and heal when they are staggered.

[dense linden]

Sherma gon find u

[proud haven]

I like this one more cuz it has less people who feel romantically for the bug characters, and I just generally dislike chats full of that sorta thing

[quartz saddle]

guys what was the most fun part in pae king's plan to stop the radiance

[proud haven]

But that's really my only reason

[quartz saddle]

no answers?

[wooden egret]

Try to predict his next move and play safe. Use shrieks when he is staggered. His spinning orbs attacks give you opportunity to heal

[dense linden]

Which character spoke the dialogue
I can't believe my claws were capable of such deft creation

[quartz saddle]

ok

[proud haven]

Maybe that was just when it released but it was flooded with like weirdos and RPers and people talking about how "bad hornet is" or some other character or something more vulgar
And I dislike those vibes fr
I like hk disc to feel like talking to a bunch of nerds fr

[quartz saddle]

what is the best boss to fun (answer depends on fun)

[dense linden]

Far from that demon

[quartz saddle]

WOULD U RATHER FIGHT 5 PRIMAL ASPIDS SAME TIME OR P5 MARKOTH

[proud haven]

P5 markoth

Wait no the primal aspids

[dense linden]

5 primal aspids than a demon

[quartz saddle]

taking the most hated 2 creatures in hollow knight in would u rather

[proud haven]

One shade soul

Fr

[vocal crypt]

https://youtu.be/Le-IY3xPmI8?si=IbUDip2s7kLYyRta

[quartz saddle]

whose the strongest creature in hollow knight

[proud haven]

The knight at the end of p5 imo

[dense linden]

Shade lord
One answer
Simple
Yet complicated

[proud haven]

Void given focus or whatever

[proud haven]

Yeah that

[dense linden]

Or the knight

[quartz saddle]

NAH IT IS THE VOID OR GLORB

[hollow nova]

glorb

[proud haven]

Glorb

[dense linden]

Wait the void is united is shade lord

[quartz saddle]

void ate the strongest entities in ss and hollow knight

[proud haven]

Trueeee

[dense linden]

U can't tell me a dispersed goo is stronger than a unified one

[quartz saddle]

i bet that the void is the hollow knight's 3 boss

he ate radiance and silk mother

[proud haven]

Hollow Knight : Zoteboat

[quartz saddle]

heprob grew stronger

[wooden egret]

Best hk thumbnail of all time?

[vocal crypt]

Kill everyone

[dense linden]

Zote after hearing ts

[proud haven]

Ehh I'm gonna go with boo

[quartz saddle]

atleast he got a gf

[wooden egret]

Hungry Knight II

[quartz saddle]

cant even imagine that zote got a gf and we dont

[dense linden]

Zote stole Bretta bro

[proud haven]

I wonder if we're gonna get that furious fox game

[vocal crypt]

This feels like something toby fox would post in 2010

[wooden egret]

Thats still having a gf

[vocal crypt]

He gets dumped if you beat GPZ 6-7 times

[wooden egret]

Reminds me of Alex Hirsch's encounter with Toby Fox on twitter

[quartz saddle]

he used a pick up line he said: i am a trash could u pick me up??

[wooden egret]

I thought it was 4

[dense linden]

Oh but after we show Bretta that zote is trash she leaves is that having a gf

[quartz saddle]

even at her dreams his workin for her bec she pays him geo

[wooden egret]

Yeah, but that's how certain schmucks attract ladies nowadays.

[quartz saddle]

means his her ex now?

[dense linden]

Which area in Hallownest got the most lore
I mean creepy ass shit telling you stories bout the place

[quartz saddle]

zote will have a gf again(hornet)

[dense linden]

[quartz saddle]

cap prob

[wooden egret]

#RescuingBrettaWasAMistake

[quartz saddle]

hornet alr has one

[dense linden]

Sherma ready to kill zote if he try to hit on hornet

[quiet prawn]

Beat pure vessel twice in less than an hour when I first lost to him in P4 and then the 2nd time I encountered him I completely chocked and lost instantly

[quartz saddle]

nah lace is ready to do

[wooden egret]

Zote can kill her with his majestically beautiful voice humming the main menu theme

[willow mica]

isnt hornet bisexual

[dense linden]

[willow mica]

skill issue

[quartz saddle]

then pure vessel will

[wooden egret]

There is literally no confirmed relationships

[quiet prawn]

Nah more like a brain issue

[quartz saddle]

took me 3 hours to beat traitor lord and 2 hours for hornet 2

is that skill issue?

[willow mica]

shes gendered but all her siblings are non genderted, she doesnt know what tom like so she likes everything

yes

i beat nkg on radiant

in 10- minuytes

[quartz saddle]

EW

IT ONLY TOOK ME 3 MINS

[quiet prawn]

Traitor lord is pretty tough once you first face him ngl but I have a really good strategy I developed to almost no hit him consistantly

[willow mica]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-licking-disturbing-hawt-gif-11208945256316741062

[quartz saddle]

it is my first time playing

but i know the game from 2 months

(4 months i mean

[willow mica]

traitor lord ez, dash thru him, wack ack wack ddark repeat

[hollow nova]

Ari could draw a mean fox

[quartz saddle]

watching a vid for it every day

[hollow nova]

I'd play it

Although its fearless fox 🤓

[quartz saddle]

i didnt even know where grim is and i didnt meet him yet

what are yall's fav mod

[brazen comet]

how do i do radiant marmu dawg

[wooden egret]

I mean, ||pharloom is full of twisted people. Whats worse is they aren't even infected, their corruption was self inflicted||

[grizzled elm]

I found Hornet on the edge of the kingdom.

[quartz saddle]

mine is pale court pure vesse's charm is INSANE

[grizzled elm]

I'am coockdd

Coocked

[wooden egret]

Pale court has broken charms

[quartz saddle]

yeah vessel's charm changes spells to one that looks CLEAN

[wooden egret]

Do you need help with the charm build?

[quartz saddle]

what's yall fav movement or spell

[grizzled elm]

Yesss

[quiet prawn]

What I do is instead of shadow dashing through him is I align myself so that I jump on top of him when he is about to dash, then I pogo him twice but I stay on either the left or right side of his heafd. After pogoing twice I immediately turn to the opposite direction so that he dashes into nothing and I blast him with like 3 shade souls. My complete spell oriented charm build makes quick work of him

[quartz saddle]

moveent like dash or double jump etc,

[grizzled elm]

Yes, I need

[wooden egret]

Quick slash, stalwart shell, mop

Thats what I used

Is it steelsoul?

[quartz saddle]

i hate when he throws the spining thingies

[willow mica]

im yet to get into ss lore tbh, hk lore still has me in a chokehold, like what is ||fluke hermits|| story even

[grizzled elm]

Unfortunately, I don't have Quick slash Do you know how to get it?

[quartz saddle]

did u beat steel soul?

[quiet prawn]

My strategy makes it so I am always far away from him after he dashed so I have time to react to the 'spinning things'

[wooden egret]

No man I recently died in Deepnest

[quartz saddle]

OOF

i hate deepnest

[wooden egret]

I was trying to make it to failed tramway

[quiet prawn]

Why stalwart shell

[quartz saddle]

the first time i beated the npc that transforms intospider wih black legs i got scared

[wooden egret]

Increases invincibility duration allowing you to charge at the enemy.

Losing health becomes your lethal weapon

[quartz saddle]

i am scared to big spiders and since there's insanely low chance to meet them irl i am scared to them in game

[quiet prawn]

That is an interesting way to go about it

Why

[quartz saddle]

why

[wooden egret]

See you

[quartz saddle]

guys

[rare aurora]

@quartz cave i got a b!!!

[quartz saddle]

i have a questions

i need ANSWER INSTANTLY

[whole juniper]

is it lore accurate that THK was an aurafarmer in his prime

[quiet prawn]

Sure

[quiet prawn]

Have you seen him in his prime?

[whole juniper]

talking about PV

[quiet prawn]

Yea that's why I asked

[wooden egret]

Yes, Pure Vessel is implied by "godseeker" to be his past self before sealing the infection

[quiet prawn]

And my answer is yes

Only cause of his intro lmao

[quartz saddle]

since when we dream nail our self in mirror to get void heart that makes us go to our memory and at end we fall afer seeing pale king with pure vessel that means we were abt to climb abt but we fell at end and door shutted then we climbed again?

????

[quiet prawn]

I don't understand

[quartz saddle]

look when u dream nail the black egg u were borned from that means u go to ur memory or dreams at when u try to climb abt u see pale king with pure vessel when he was young and u fall that means that happened in the first time and u climbed again?

????

[quiet prawn]

Yes that's what happens

[quartz saddle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-knight-hollow-knight-2

[quartz saddle]

damn

[ivory storm]

like that

[quiet prawn]

Yoo beat P4?

[ivory storm]

with all bindings.

[quiet prawn]

Oh yea didn't notice

[ivory storm]

[quiet prawn]

Nice work

[ivory storm]

ts took me 3 months

well I've got breaks too

[quiet prawn]

What's your PV strat

[ivory storm]

don't use Nail arts.

and pray

[quartz saddle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cynthia-erivo-shocked

pov: when u first time seeing the 20+ saws in the path of pain

[ivory storm]

lol

[quartz saddle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gabe-lore-1

[proud haven]

I am gonna be so cracked at hk

[quartz saddle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gabe-lore-1

what am i gonna fight the sun?

[ivory storm]

hell ye

who tf is Gabe

[quartz saddle]

idk

[quartz saddle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spongebob-cant-wait

u when beat the radiance for the first time without seeing the story in vids

https://klipy.com/gifs/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys

when u see the animation after

[proud haven]

Do you watch meme compilations often

[quartz saddle]

no

i created

[proud haven]

I think you'd like the ones from 2012

I watched em a lot as a kid

[ivory storm]

bro

[proud haven]

U remind me of them

[quartz saddle]

ok

[ivory storm]

Connor is evil atp

[quartz saddle]

?

[proud haven]

I am not evil fr

[quartz saddle]

u are

[proud haven]

I am so kind

[quartz saddle]

EVERY HOLLOW KNIGHT PLAYER IS EVIL

BEC WE ALL SAVED ZOTE

everyone deverses second chance except zote

u save him alot and his still annoying

who has the saddest story in hk

[ivory storm]

I left this mf in the colosseum for eternity

[proud haven]

I think it's probably like og hollow knight before we take over the mantle

[quartz saddle]

for the greater good

[ivory storm]

Myla

[proud haven]

Bro was just suffering forever and it didn't even keep the infection in

[quartz saddle]

it is tiso's story

[proud haven]

Tiso is so lame tho

[ivory storm]

Tiso being dead makes me cry

[quartz saddle]

when i saw him wanting to fight then get dead

[proud haven]

Does it

[quartz saddle]

kinda

[ivory storm]

dude he had aura

[quartz saddle]

yeah but it disappeared

bec the fat npcs fell on him

[vast nymph]

PEOPLE COMMENT ON YOU IF YOU HAVE DEFENDERS CREST ON. HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS

[ivory storm]

Brooding Mawlek killed him

[wide aurora]

I've done 2 of these and I'll call it a day

[ivory storm]

the 3rd one is EPIC btw

[proud haven]

When I first met him I was like man this guy is so odd I wonder where he is
And I didn't go to kingdom's edge forever super duper long and I forgot about the npc and then he was just dead and I was like man dang I missed his story
Then I found out his story is just dying like a loser that's the whole point of his character

[quartz saddle]

defeat pantheon 5 in 10 mins for 100 dollars

not doable bec theres 42 bosses

[proud haven]

Basically missed nothing the first time around

[ivory storm]

homie, TAS can't do it, that's astronomically impossible

[wide aurora]

can't beat god tamer
I will do it soon™

[ivory storm]

yeah this mf is annoying

you can jump on the beast and ddark

that's basically the cheese strat

[ivory storm]

like that:

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-watcher-knights-gif-4607664908272775791

[quartz saddle]

oo tas

how he got this skills bro

[tropic hamlet]

Hello guyssss

[ivory storm]

TAS stands for Tool Assisted Speedrun

[tropic hamlet]

Im backk

[ivory storm]

basically cheating

[ivory storm]

YESSSS

LET'S GO FAT GRUB

[tropic hamlet]

Hellooo bro

[quartz saddle]

wanna here smth scary?

yk who am i?

or who i am

[tropic hamlet]

Whatttt, im just a fatass grub

[quartz saddle]

i am the collecter (:

[proud haven]

if someone is disabled and they need to use like a physical device to leverage their hand around the controller and it assists their muscles is that a TAS run and therefore not valid

[tropic hamlet]

Yees

Noooooooo

[quartz saddle]

HAHAHHAHAHA

[tropic hamlet]

Dont colectivo me

[quartz saddle]

CMERE

i did alr

[tropic hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/grub-hollow-knight-happy-happy-jump-bounce-gif-2163929138081729073

[tired mountain]

Prolly not

Its valid

[quartz saddle]

but guys hollow knight focused in small pars

[tropic hamlet]

The knight sabed me

[grizzled elm]

This part makes my phone very slow.

[quartz saddle]

like when u get closeto grus they get happy

[grizzled elm]

I don't know how I'm going to beat the Hornet.

[ivory storm]

I feel like eloki would know

tag her

[quartz saddle]

when u go away hey ge sad

[tropic hamlet]

[ivory storm]

remove Defender's crest idk

[quartz saddle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-collector-hollow-knight

CMERE FOR MY PHASE 2

[tropic hamlet]

My cousin is he Will saber me

Save*

[tropic hamlet]

Nooooo

[proud haven]

I'd def agree that it's gotta be valid or that's morally wrong, but it definitely should also be TAS like if I was a disabled dude let's say right, I'd probably have fun messing with people by putting TAS in the thumbnail anyways and then it's just like relatively normal gameplay and then I could setup a joke where I'm just like yeah the tool is what lets me move my hand normally

[quartz saddle]

I HAVE ABSOLUTE RADIANCE, PURE VESSEL,NKG AND SILK MOTHER AND LACE AND HORNET IN MY TIME AND HE WILL HAVE TO FIGHT THEM IN SAME TIME ATTACKING IN SAME TIME

[tropic hamlet]

But i have him

[proud haven]

What if eloki is asleep or in another plane

[tropic hamlet]

The pure vessel Will protect meeee

[tired mountain]

I think u can use pretty much anything physical isnt tas done by like a program