hk-discussion

[shrewd nymph]

full gear vfk is so heavenly

[foggy sable]

but actually it is so boring in ab

[latent fog]

WHEN THE WORLD NEEDED HIM THE MOST

[foggy sable]

I have been suffering of late

[shrewd nymph]

in ab yeah its kinda eh

[agile zephyr]

Gruz Mother is kinda mid. But also genuinely got me with the shi after she died.

[latent fog]

HE WAS THERE

[smoky matrix]

It's a Lune.

[wide jolt]

Idk that y’all needed me

[shrewd nymph]

gmcb

[graceful storm]

Can we finish our little scarlet flame ritual?

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-grimm-nightmare-king-grimm-gif-15091332761300143918

[wide jolt]

Of course, anything for the ritual!!!!

[latent fog]

I’m still on my first playthrough and it’s pretty fun finding all the nooks and crannies in the game

[agile zephyr]

All Achievements ass.

[wide jolt]

Let us dance!

[sleek bear]

Is there a mod to remove elder hu from pantheon 3? He takes too long to kill

[latent fog]

Guys should I go for platinum trophy

[shrewd nymph]

debug mod ig

[wide jolt]

Absolutely

[shrewd nymph]

kill all enemies button

[sleek bear]

alr

[latent fog]

Ok ima do it

[dense fjord]

Luneeee

[agile zephyr]

Just Thanos snap him.

[copper spruce]

Hollow knight fans

[shrewd nymph]

hiii good afternoon

[latent fog]

Idk why but people say the Path of Pain was hard but for me it was really fun and easy

[dense fjord]

Hows ur day been?

[latent fog]

It’s just repetitive at times

[graceful storm]

Who?

[wide jolt]

How dare you assume we like Hollow Knight!

[graceful storm]

Elder who?

[foggy sable]

also you wanted sub 10 hit p5ab right?

[sleek bear]

the floating ghost who throws hand rings at you

[dense fjord]

Correct

[wide jolt]

I actually really don’t like Hollow Knight

[foggy sable]

I reckon you could do it in under 10 attempts

[graceful storm]

Elder who?

[sleek bear]

[shrewd nymph]

good, early gym and cafe and then ive just been chilling

[graceful storm]

I really wanna get there

[shrewd nymph]

hbu

[latent fog]

Kinda like fat male version of Shakra* autocorrect

[shrewd nymph]

[idle belfry]

No tag ontoic found.

[dense fjord]

Oohh hell yeah sounds chill asf

[foggy sable]

I believe

[graceful storm]

?tag ontopic

[idle belfry]

keep sequel topics to the sequel channels #sk-help #sk-lore #sk-discussion

[shrewd nymph]

10 hits to collector maybe

[foggy sable]

I would strongly recommend against going past sub 10 though

[graceful storm]

He sounds awful with bindings

[agile zephyr]

Fire.

[copper spruce]

Bro goes to the gym

[graceful storm]

who?

[shrewd nymph]

for now, yeah. maybe if i keep playing the game i'll go past it

[dense fjord]

Just been chilling aswell, been having spurts of wanting to play rdr2 then wanting to do anything but play rdr2

Why is my brain so indecisive

[foggy sable]

time to become a p5 speedrunner though

[graceful storm]

Why do people make collector look like an awful fight?

[wide jolt]

It is an awful fight

[dense fjord]

Cuz of ab

[shrewd nymph]

truee time for a 15m ltr p5

[graceful storm]

Why?

[wide jolt]

It’s not hard, it’s just really annoying to me

[foggy sable]

or an r5 speedrunner you could do that

[wide jolt]

I dislike The Collector

[warped ermine]

Do yall think there is an afterlife in hk outside of what we see from spirits

[shrewd nymph]

i feel like r5 speedrunning would be more flukes and less nail which i dont know if id prefer

fury is so fun

[foggy sable]

true

[shrewd nymph]

but also bigger flex so eh

[copper spruce]

No

[dense fjord]

Lmao

[foggy sable]

sub 30 r5 imo

[copper spruce]

Do not do it

[clever roost]

Hello

[foggy sable]

actually lrt that might be easy enough

[shrewd nymph]

i forgot how fast my r5 was (inc load time)

lemme check

[dense fjord]

Biggest hk flex is making it through kings pass hitless we all know this

[shrewd nymph]

what is the typical ltr difference? dyk

[foggy sable]

depends on load time

[warped ermine]

Find ur fandoms in this image trust

[clever roost]

.@copper spruce u ain't hornet

[shrewd nymph]

wait sub 30??

[graceful storm]

@wide jolt isn't actually NKG either

[shrewd nymph]

i think mine was sub 30 including load time

[foggy sable]

hm

[clever roost]

Who is nkg ? Another vessel

[shrewd nymph]

the video is 31m

lets see

[wide jolt]

Nah, I’m actually Nightmare King Grimm from Hollow Knight in real life

[clever roost]

Whr is my pure vessel ??

[wide jolt]

You did not say that

[dense fjord]

Just lace lmao, no characters from tboi or rdr unfortunately 💔💔

[shrewd nymph]

@foggy sable my r5 is 30:01

bro

[copper spruce]

So what

[foggy sable]

skill issue honestly

[tulip narwhal]

I’m egfloggygoggy

[warped ermine]

What are those i wanna know

[copper spruce]

Load your game faster smh

[shrewd nymph]

well idk how to count it but from hitless counter resetting to final absrad hit

[sleek bear]

on first play through aswell

[wide jolt]

Found 2, Silk Song and another one I won’t say

[copper spruce]

Wait lune did r5?

[clever roost]

@wide jolt u look like vessel tho

[warped ermine]

Why not

[wide jolt]

I really don’t

[shrewd nymph]

anyways if my first r5 is 30m (with my h2 and lost kin being like 15 of those minutes), then yeah sub 30 is light work

[wide jolt]

Gets a lot of hate

[dense fjord]

The binding of isaac and red dead redemption, red dead redemption isnt an indie game tho so ig it makes complete sense its not there lmao

[clever roost]

Are u one of my 10m vessels

[shrewd nymph]

agree to disagree

[copper spruce]

Why don't i remember lune doing r5

[warped ermine]

Hazbin hotel

[copper spruce]

When did this happen

[shrewd nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2SBox0cKPs

2 weeks ago

[copper spruce]

Wtf

[shrewd nymph]

ish

[copper spruce]

I really am washed

[tulip narwhal]

Whaddahell

[shrewd nymph]

and then i did anyrad like a week ago and havent touched the game since

[copper spruce]

Everyone ik has done r5 except me

[dense fjord]

Extremely goated

[copper spruce]

Congrats

[shrewd nymph]

thank you

idk like 7 hours or smt

[dense fjord]

I havent :3

[foggy sable]

anyrad seems kinda free

[copper spruce]

No emoji grubsad

[shrewd nymph]

i had done r5 before so its a huge decrease in difficulty

[copper spruce]

Idk whomst are you

[shrewd nymph]

and i would still like to get better at the fight tbh

[shadow mantle]

tf y'all are doing anyrad 😭

[dense fjord]

We always see each other in chat

[foggy sable]

surely switching to lumafly would take longer than doing anybad

[warped ermine]

(Notice how hes not responding because he doesn't want us to know)

[copper spruce]

Lune didn't even react to the congratulations

Go explode 💔

[zealous skiff]

its way easier than it looks

[foggy sable]

some of us did r5 before joining here

[shadow mantle]

crazy

[shrewd nymph]

the thing that made it easy was learning how to like stay on her face after she teleports, if you can get your wing timings right then you can always be safe from orbs and the fight is just ddark sim

[dense fjord]

Btw Lune ur pfp is so cool

[shrewd nymph]

i replied with words 😭

[shadow mantle]

sure

[shrewd nymph]

thank you

[upper loom]

gonna try and name the ones i recognize
lace from sk, pomni from tadc, baldi from baldi's basics, amanda from that one vhs tape indie horror game, harvey(?) from bloodmoney, gf+bf from fnf, tenna from deltarune, gabriel (i think?) from ultrakill, the boiled one, the blue thing from poppy's playtime, alastor from hazbin hotel, the impostor/crewmate from among us, the knight girl from knights of guenivere or however you spell it idk and that zombiegirl thing from the gaslight district

[shrewd nymph]

i mean thats just the fight tbh

[warped ermine]

Hollow knight tassers when you cant beat everyradiance 14.7 on radiant with no charms and all binds

[dense fjord]

Ofc

[shadow mantle]

i've been thinking about getting the anyrad mod should i just get it

[zealous skiff]

no it sucks get pale court or smth

[shrewd nymph]

and if you fight her too long in one sitting then you just get burnt out and do dumb shit

[shadow mantle]

bet

[zealous skiff]

or supernova radiance

or sunset rad

[shadow mantle]

pale court looks awesome

[shrewd nymph]

might as well try it out but its bad so eh

[zealous skiff]

or boundless infinity

[copper spruce]

Grubhappy

[shrewd nymph]

or nightmare and void

[foggy sable]

chomp I threw an amazing p5ab

[zealous skiff]

or corrupted kin or any one of the 1 billion nkg mods or get silksong

[shadow mantle]

i really wanna try that one

[zealous skiff]

what ahpepns?

[foggy sable]

to ecg

[shadow mantle]

but it looks like a pain

[zealous skiff]

ok

what

[foggy sable]

it could have been a 2 hit run

[shadow mantle]

but also fun

[shrewd nymph]

nightmare and void is good but i do say it mostly as a joke

[foggy sable]

but ecg hit

[zealous skiff]

its a 2 hit run in our hearts

[shadow mantle]

pv and nkg are my two favorite fights in the game tbh

[foggy sable]

also p5ab sucks

[copper spruce]

When was 2 weeks ago

[foggy sable]

so much to run

[shrewd nymph]

chomp r5ab after doing rs4 ?

[copper spruce]

Yea everyone is trying out r5 wtf

[zealous skiff]

im not playing anything orther than gd and slay the spire actively rn so no promises on rs4

im never touching r5ab

[foggy sable]

slay the spire

[zealous skiff]

never

[copper spruce]

What kind of trend did i miss

[dense fjord]

Wait Lune quick question can void get infected by the radiance? Because i had a cool boss idea

[foggy sable]

is great

[warped ermine]

Im not reading yours because it will ruin my spotting but I see pressure, poppy playtime, the boiled one, ultrakill, fnf, deltarune, knitopet, amongus, knights of Guinevere, tadc, murder drones (i think) gaslight district, hazbin hotel, hollow knight, Amanda the adventurer and baldi

[shrewd nymph]

im afraid i have like bottom 5 lore knowledge in this server

[foggy sable]

I should do ironclad past a5

[zealous skiff]

so eepy

[copper spruce]

Slay the spire?

I have that gam3

Game

[shrewd nymph]

fiablo is always talking bout slay the spire

[foggy sable]

but I am so bad at ironclad

[copper spruce]

I never downloaded it tho

[zealous skiff]

ik im really new so thats part of it but I lowk suck at watcher the most

[foggy sable]

slay the spire is so fun

[zealous skiff]

its addicting

if only it didnt take an hour per run

[foggy sable]

watcher is the only one I have a20 heart on

[upper loom]

i thought that was a roblox character but idk any of their names so i didn't know who it was as or what it's from, and yeah i think that is from murder drones, idk what knitopet is tho

[foggy sable]

but both the others have a20 so for ironclad to be a5 is a bit sad

[dense fjord]

Lmao all good, if it can,

Sovereign of the Abyss
Idk what the attacks could be but it could be a powerful void entity that gave into the infection (i just wanted to say the name tbh, its a really cool name imo)

[zealous skiff]

me when a power that basically gives infinite mana isn't even the best one

[zealous skiff]

oh shit

[warped ermine]

The pink one on the table

[upper loom]

OHHHH

[zealous skiff]

well if you can a20 on everything else surely it cant be that bad

[upper loom]

yeah that thing

[copper spruce]

Should i play slay the spire

[foggy sable]

I also haven't played in ages

[zealous skiff]

yep

[upper loom]

seen it before somewhere

[copper spruce]

Why

[foggy sable]

aside from mp mod which is fun

[copper spruce]

Brive me

[dense fjord]

Hop on the binding of isaac surely

[smoky matrix]

Why is everyone hopping on Slay The ___ right now?

Be it spire or princess.

[dense fjord]

Lmao

[foggy sable]

you misunderstand I am hopeless at it

[shrewd nymph]

slay the princess ive just heard from a few people in skdisc

[zealous skiff]

later™

[shrewd nymph]

slay the spire is everywhere

[dense fjord]

It’s incredibly peak

[zealous skiff]

gm jay

[smoky matrix]

A few friends from different servers are also hopping on it.

[smoky matrix]

Gmgm Chomp.

[shrewd nymph]

the r5 master themself

[copper spruce]

Why is it called slay the princess

I thought hurting women was bad

[zealous skiff]

there are living people in skdisc???

[copper spruce]

[shrewd nymph]

living is pushing it

[dense fjord]

Guys quick question can yall rate my taste in games perhaps

[graceful storm]

No cost too great:

[shadow mantle]

real

[graceful storm]

No mind to think(about buying it)

[shadow mantle]

i would pay that for hk

[graceful storm]

No voice to cry suffering(the price)

[zealous skiff]

i swear its 90% ragebait people/idiots I can't tell probably both and 10% hkmain people pining another hkmain member

[graceful storm]

No will to break(wasting my money on it)

[zealous skiff]

*99% and 1%

[keen thorn]

0/10 you're playing hollow knight

[zealous skiff]

hi genio

[copper spruce]

Am i dead

[dense fjord]

True..

[zealous skiff]

balatro celeste

[dense fjord]

Dw chomp, i have a gif you can send in sk-discussion

[shrewd nymph]

its always the same group of people just spamming inside jokes and talking about unrelated things like a group chat
that or political arguments

[dense fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-channel-sucks-bozo-thischannelsucks-gif-15863937764642532882

[tulip narwhal]

Trueee

[copper spruce]

Hi genio

[shrewd nymph]

with how much you explode.. probably

[tulip narwhal]

Hop on 7ag

[dense fjord]

YIPPEE

[smoky matrix]

Why is this server an injoke playground for ~100 people?

[keen thorn]

Explode

[zealous skiff]

ok tbf I don't think I can criticise people for spamming inside jokes

[smoky matrix]

This is legit the worst organised server I have ever seen.

[dense fjord]

Lune i feel like ive asked you but wdyt :3

[zealous skiff]

nuh uh

[upper loom]

i see only peak and stuff i don't recognize so therefore can't judge properly

[tulip narwhal]

Why :(

[copper spruce]

One day I'll explode permanently

[dense fjord]

This means my taste in games is incredible

[shrewd nymph]

the inside jokes are eh but it plays out identical to a small groupchat and everyone else is just spectating

[zealous skiff]

becase i dont feel lie ti

[smoky matrix]

It's an EgfloggyGoggy.

[shrewd nymph]

terraria and sdv peak

[upper loom]

i'd say so

[copper spruce]

Lune plays terraria?

[dense fjord]

YAY

[copper spruce]

[zealous skiff]

oh yeah and gif spam

[smoky matrix]

Just like hk-disc used to be!!!

[copper spruce]

6 days

6 fuckin days

[shrewd nymph]

basically exclusively infernum atm but yeah

[zealous skiff]

i dont know how people find gif spam entertaining

[zealous skiff]

TRUE

[upper loom]

ping

[wide jolt]

Are any of y’all real?

[smoky matrix]

This is legit the worst organised-

No.

[shrewd nymph]

no.

[upper loom]

no.

well

[dense fjord]

No.

[upper loom]

prolly nah

[copper spruce]

Tiktok scrollers

[shrewd nymph]

theres an instagram where you're the only human on it iirc

such an odd concept but i js got reminded of it

[upper loom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1157578619296698390/1454630362218233959/attachment.gif

[foggy sable]

the gif spam is why I wouldn't be sad if embed links were removed everywhere

[dense fjord]

Me neither, thats why i pull the big brain move and send 1 singular gif back before promptly ignoring them

[tulip narwhal]

Hii

[copper spruce]

They alread punished hk gen

[foggy sable]

oh wow sk disc is worse than I thought, I never go there

[shrewd nymph]

its just the most chronically online place

i check it occasionally for hk talk though

[copper spruce]

The sk disc js gatekeepy as hell

[foggy sable]

everyone worth talking to is over here anyway surely

[dense fjord]

I said my popcorn looked like a sk boss and everyone started calling me insane

[shrewd nymph]

[dense fjord]

Bunch of gaslighters smh

[copper spruce]

I took 100+ attempts to beat the final boss with a self imposed challenge and the mfs called me disabled

[cinder jackal]

floggy congrats on getting every golden

[copper spruce]

[cinder jackal]

big fan

[smoky matrix]

It's a zVy.

[dense fjord]

Wait lune im actually curious how long does the average p5ab run take

[shrewd nymph]

first completion?

[foggy sable]

for who?

[zealous skiff]

and speedrun cord methinks

[shrewd nymph]

or for an experienced player

[dense fjord]

Like

Experienced

[foggy sable]

I don't speedrun so I don't look at speedruncord much

[shrewd nymph]

like 55-60 ish

[foggy sable]

and the hitless channel there is both dead and insufferable

[copper spruce]

Why

[dense fjord]

Yeah i expected that lmao

[smoky matrix]

Hours. Trust.

[shrewd nymph]

some are like 50 some are like 65

ive only done p5ab twice but thats what i remember from r5ab times

[copper spruce]

67 minutes

[foggy sable]

I think I had my first sub 55 p5ab recently

which is nice

[dense fjord]

Ooo

Im really proud of you :D

[foggy sable]

yay

[zealous skiff]

oh shit i thought it was good i oonly really vc there ig

[smoky matrix]

You guys should do R5 with -12 damage nail and Wraiths.

[shrewd nymph]

truee

[smoky matrix]

It's fun. I did it.
Lune can vouch.

[shrewd nymph]

i'd be the 4(?)th completion

after jay's 3x

[foggy sable]

nah it is completely dead and the only stories I have of it are of someone posting there and getting comments more fitting to hkmain

[dense fjord]

P5ab but every 10 minutes a copy of absrad is created at the end

[smoky matrix]

So, 6-7 AbsBads?

[copper spruce]

Ok here's a real challenge

Talk to a woman

[smoky matrix]

Hmm.

[dense fjord]

How many hits does she need to stagger

[smoky matrix]

What if I am a woman (am not but whatever)?

[copper spruce]

Any other woman

[smoky matrix]

TRUE.

[copper spruce]

It depends

[shrewd nymph]

@frozen hull hi

[copper spruce]

*irl

[dense fjord]

Then talk to yourself trust

[smoky matrix]

Bro you can't keep increasing the difficulty like this.

[zealous skiff]

[dense fjord]

Oh lord too hard

[smoky matrix]

Surely.

[copper spruce]

Haha i win

I talk to a friend group of 4 women all the tine

[foggy sable]

bingycord is clearly the better place to talk to hitless players

[graceful storm]

No cost too great

[dense fjord]

My friend group has a woman in it

[smoky matrix]

My friend group has 3 women in it.

[copper spruce]

Women

[dense fjord]

Peak

Heres a pancake

[copper spruce]

Woman

[dense fjord]

Close, thats a pancake

[copper spruce]

No

[dense fjord]

Its MULTIPLE pancakes..

[zealous skiff]

TRUE

[smoky matrix]

[frozen hull]

@shrewd nymph

[heavy barn]

wow you're alive

no way

[dense fjord]

New charm idea

Dream Catcher
Dream nail deals 1x the nails damage but counts as spell damage

Shaman stone + dream wielder + dream catcher coming when

[smoky matrix]

Shaman Stone increases damage by how much?

[dense fjord]

However much it increases shade soul by ig lmao

[smoky matrix]

Hmm.

Does it still give Soul?

[dense fjord]

Yea but like half id say

To keep it relatively balanced

[smoky matrix]

And notch cost?

[dense fjord]

Mm 2-3

Whichever would be more balanced

Probably 3

[smoky matrix]

Hmmn.

Interesting.

[heavy barn]

in that case it'd be garbage

[copper spruce]

Bad

[heavy barn]

like D tier

[dense fjord]

Okay 2 notches

[foggy sable]

it would be usable for 1

[heavy barn]

C probably

yeah 1 would be usable

[foggy sable]

because then it and dream wielder would fit into 3-3-3-1-1 build

[dense fjord]

I feel like itd be fun

[dense fjord]

Oh true

Okay 1 notch

[keen thorn]

The weakest

33%

[dense fjord]

Do you guys think itd be good and not too op

[foggy sable]

hi genio

how goes dashless

[keen thorn]

Honestly not worth even if it was nail damage (buffed by strength)

[keen thorn]

Hi

[dense fjord]

Oh lmao

[copper spruce]

No

[keen thorn]

Not good but also good

[dense fjord]

True..

[foggy sable]

probably more enjoyable than p5ab tbh

[dense fjord]

Okay new new charm idea

[keen thorn]

Got a 3 hit, 2 on them on tyrant because I didn't learn how to cdash properly

[smoky matrix]

Can I offer you the R5 motto in this trying time?

[keen thorn]

If you make it 2 nails, or would be really cool, buffed by all charms, it would be nice

[zealous skiff]

ok but in effect its more like a 166% buff because of how many extra double hits you get with shamans

[smoky matrix]

R5 contradicts mental health.

[foggy sable]

so pretty good

is what I'm hearing

[keen thorn]

Shaman really just makes doubles easier more than possible
Kinda like a mop

So it's hard to quantify, you can get most without it

I've kinda reached a point the size increase barely matters to me when doing bosses with all the r04

Good for like, easier WK or nosk setups

[dense fjord]

Plasma Chain
Dashing leaves an electric trail that doesnt hurt the knight and deals tick damage to enemies (id say like 3x more than defenders crest)
Using dash slash creates electricity at the end of the nail that chains to nearby enemies (this damage would do half the damage of the nail)
Charged lumaflys dont turn into electricity while the charm is held

[keen thorn]

Dashles nosk doubles are definitely much easier with shaman

[foggy sable]

okay but some of us just brute forced 04r so the spell size does matter

[keen thorn]

Even with charmless R5?

[foggy sable]

04r was the good old days

[foggy sable]

Still I feel the size difference significantly

[heavy barn]

dash slash is now even more broken for colo

[foggy sable]

especially in fights like lost kin

and xero

[keen thorn]

Hmm LK yeah

[dense fjord]

You could get it in the spot you can find the charged lumafly journal entry

[keen thorn]

Xero is the same

[smoky matrix]

Genio should do dashless R5 with Dashmaster.
To aura farm.

[copper spruce]

Hi genio

[foggy sable]

and galien, and matkoth, and oblobbles

[keen thorn]

I was planning on using it for Tyrant-Champ

[copper spruce]

[foggy sable]

maybe it just came down to not learning charmless properly and just relying on being generally good enough

[keen thorn]

Markoth yeah, galien and Obblobbles nah idk

[keen thorn]

Explode

[copper spruce]

Why

[smoky matrix]

Why that sections only? Surely there's gotta be a section before where it's usable.

[dense fjord]

Jay genio and greyfire what do yall think :3

[foggy sable]

also I now have to think of a new p5ab goal

because r5ab is not happening but I have to stick to it for at least a bit longer

[keen thorn]

Mostly for GPZ and Tyrant
But I learned to ignore tyrant P2 with cdash, kinda miss Longnail for Markoth and just got better at gpz that dashmaster was just overkill

[foggy sable]

feels like a better nkg flame trail

[keen thorn]

Honestly idk, just seems too convoluted to measure

But it could just be a better sharp shadow

[smoky matrix]

Interesting.

[dense fjord]

Pretty much lmao

[keen thorn]

2

The lovely 2

[foggy sable]

no please

I just got 3 I can't go further

[smoky matrix]

Worth.

[keen thorn]

Yeah, turns out sprintmaster is op as fuck

Genuinely more than enough most fights

And actually some fights like Galien or Champ are EASIER dashless but with sprintmaster than with dash and no sprintmaster

[foggy sable]

it would have been a 2 if not for enraged guardian

[keen thorn]

Of course it's always him

[foggy sable]

it was the pressure

[copper spruce]

What

[keen thorn]

Yes

I'm loving it so much

Probably gonna try to implement it with dash

[dense fjord]

I wanna make grubberflys elegy better

[keen thorn]

Since it's allowing a lot of stuff for me now that it's doing better than dash in those instances

[copper spruce]

Genio has exploded his brain

[keen thorn]

It's issue was always it competes with dash, a permanent ability

[foggy sable]

the main issue is it requires a charm slot

[keen thorn]

But it actually may be better sometimes

[forest flower]

Meep

[dense fjord]

Honestly just have it activate at any hp level and make it cost 1 less notch

[foggy sable]

and thus is useless in any charmless run

[keen thorn]

Strength Quickslash Shaman SteadyBody Grubsong

[dense fjord]

Just get the knight some new shoes

[keen thorn]

Not Sprintmaster

[foggy sable]

ah see I forgot that not overcharming was an option

which is a bit silly since it is the default

[smoky matrix]

You guys wanna hear some trash takes?

[foggy sable]

always

[copper spruce]

Bruh i almost lost my laptop

Bruh i almost lost my laptop

[copper spruce]

Go

[smoky matrix]

MoP>QS.
TOA is a good charm.

[copper spruce]

Explode

[foggy sable]

okay so

it depends

in overworld MoP is better because qs is very lategame

or at least a large detour

[smoky matrix]

What about the other one?

[copper spruce]

Fury is better than QS

[foggy sable]

TOA is better than nothing for a new player

[smoky matrix]

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

[foggy sable]

but I disagree that it is good

[smoky matrix]

Fury is in my top 10 at the 10th spot.

[smoky matrix]

Yeah. I expected that.

[tulip narwhal]

I miss furiousattack

[foggy sable]

I just don't see the use case for thorns

[keen thorn]

Thorns only P5

[waxen drum]

True

[smoky matrix]

In my first two playthroughs, I used TOA+GSong combo for basically the entirety of them.

After that I got good and stopped taking hits.

[smoky matrix]

And so they got replaced by Spell Twister.

[smoky matrix]

Good luck.

[waxen drum]

Yall I just unlocked p5

[foggy sable]

As for the first point I have run nail length charms over qs in some cases recently

[frozen hull]

@smoky matrix @keen thorn @foggy sable

[smoky matrix]

@frozen hull

[waxen drum]

Thanks

[keen thorn]

Grubsong > Grubsong + Thorns

Remember negatives flip the sign

[smoky matrix]

[copper spruce]

Izu

[smoky matrix]

My top 5 is this-

1. Shaman Stone.
2. MoP.
3. QS.
4. QF.
5. Strength.

[copper spruce]

Focus

[foggy sable]

quick focus is great

I however am too affected by doing pantheon runs so have
QS
Fury
STR
Shaman
Sbody

[waxen drum]

Whats yalls charm build for p5 cuz mine is

1. Dream fielder
2. Strength
3. Quick slash
4. Grubsong
5. Shaman stone
6. Void heart but yk

Wielder*

[smoky matrix]

MoP, Shaman, QS and Twister.

[foggy sable]

just the default build when I want to do runs and not think?

[noble ruin]

Steady body instead of dweilder and it's the same

[keen thorn]

I'm running Strength, Quickslash, Steady Body, Longnail, Sprintmaster, Shaman Stone and Strength, Quickslash, Shaman Stone, Soul Eater for PV+AbsRad

[foggy sable]

if so QS, strength, MoP. sbody, shaman

[waxen drum]

Why is pure vessel so easy with sharp shadow

[smoky matrix]

It's a Clover.

[waxen drum]

Ty

[waxen drum]

Ty

[keen thorn]

No, the last build you used

Aka nothing

[noble ruin]

Nope

[smoky matrix]

That sucks.

[foggy sable]

fine, charms are unnecessary anyway

who needs them

[waxen drum]

Yalll

Wtf 😭😭😭

[keen thorn]

Charmless Dashless R5

[foggy sable]

I have no plans for dashless r5

Well no hard plans anyway

the idea of relearning all the bosses is not something I am inclined to do

[keen thorn]

There's surprisingly not that much relearning

And it's actually changed a bit how I approach the game, it decreased my overaggression a bit, which is really good

[foggy sable]

and also I have plans to move to overworld

[keen thorn]

That's something that's gonna be real useful for R5AB

[keen thorn]

True

[foggy sable]

why would you want to do r5ab

[keen thorn]

I forgot you were bingypilled

[foggy sable]

I am stuck with it for 4 more days

[smoky matrix]

Overworld better than GH anyway.

[keen thorn]

Wait true, weren't you taking a pantheon break

[foggy sable]

but after that time I'm not going back to it

[smoky matrix]

(another trash take probably)

[foggy sable]

I have to run p5ab for an event

so I needed to derust it

[keen thorn]

Ohhh the event!!!

Oh the event :(

When is it?

[copper spruce]

That's not a trash take

[smoky matrix]

[foggy sable]

saturday

[copper spruce]

That's a good take

[smoky matrix]

Interesting.

[keen thorn]

I'm gonna do the most cleaning I can for the guide

[foggy sable]

the guide isn't needed for it anymore

[keen thorn]

Oh

Why

[foggy sable]

it was originally

A change in plans basically for commentary

[copper spruce]

Calculus

[foggy sable]

but anyway I was forcefully removed from the peaceful overworld lifestyle for it

and p5ab is more annoying than I remember

[keen thorn]

Peak

Well I'm gonna eep

[graceful storm]

Hmm hm hm hm mena yemi

[smoky matrix]

Integral (Jady) = Jay + C.

[foggy sable]

have good eep

[copper spruce]

We don't have integrals yet

So far its like

Cartesian plane

[smoky matrix]

Unfort.

[copper spruce]

Geometry in calculus or something

[keen thorn]

∫Jady = Jay + c

[smoky matrix]

True.

[heavy barn]

-C

is equally correct

[copper spruce]

Good night

Also watch the vid i sent

[keen thorn]

• c/1000

[copper spruce]

Smh

[smoky matrix]

• Smh.

[keen thorn]

Right

[heavy barn]

• Ce^(i * theta)

[keen thorn]

Tomorrow gn

[keen thorn]

∫∫dx = cx + c

[heavy barn]

[heavy barn]

has to be c1 c2

[keen thorn]

Smh

[copper spruce]

Gn

[foggy sable]

column 1 column 2, bingy reference

[raw grail]

[hybrid holly]

[shrewd meadow]

False

[idle belfry]

@sick heath tails

[sick heath]

This sucks i hate gambling

[idle belfry]

@heavy barn tails

[heavy barn]

I lost but I still love gambling

[hybrid holly]

I love gambling

[finite ember]

nice

[meager shoal]

double your bet every time

[obtuse brook]

Guys
I've been offered more job opportunities in Cyberpunk 2077 in half an hour than in my entire real life.

[trim schooner]

lmao rip

[obtuse brook]

😂

[vocal crypt]

Why does bardoon blink with his face

[empty lynx]

Dead chat

[tulip narwhal]

Sigh

[languid gale]

dead chat

[foggy sable]

the best way to revive a chat is to start a conversation not to say dead chat because that has no natural response

[smoky matrix]

Conversation starter- PK was cornered and didn't have any other choice.

[empty lynx]

absrad's sword rain is the worst attack known to man

[foggy sable]

agreed

it is rather interesting because the vessels themselves are not sapient (no mind to think) so the choices he made were more logical than people make them out to be

I do question the choice to put the saws in white palace though

[smoky matrix]

Vessels weren't sapient as per his knowledge. Though we know that's not true, atleast for three of them.

[foggy sable]

also is it the void that made them sapient

[light snow]

so they just climbed out of the abyss why?

did he like not wonder about that

[smoky matrix]

People fail to realise that he didn't have the knowledge that we do.

[foggy sable]

if so then they are basically just the void come to life and not sacrificed so to speak

[smoky matrix]

Void can imprint on existing stuff and crank it up to 11.

Eg- Collector.

[light snow]

p Diddy himself

[smoky matrix]

That could probably be chalked up to instinct.

[foggy sable]

in which case it wasn't even really immoral either

because it was the voids fault

[light snow]

it wasn't really immoral far as he knew

now locking away the hollow knight

[wicked kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[light snow]

even if he did think it was truly hollow as a vessel is questionable

[smoky matrix]

That was so nobody had access to it. Safety measure.

Because killing THK frees Rad.

[foggy sable]

and aside from the vessels none of the other actions taken by pk could be construed as wrong

locking down the city for example is something that has historically been done in the even of diseases

[smoky matrix]

Also like, however many Vessels he sacrificed, it was a finite number. Which would have saved an infinite number of generations had the plan worked.

[light snow]

I mean yeah that's one of the few food things he did actually

good

[smoky matrix]

Taking one life to save a million type deal.

[foggy sable]

true but then you get into the moral wastes of sacrificing one to save many

and that is much more tiring

[smoky matrix]

Yeahhhhhhhhhh.

[foggy sable]

so if possible best to find the way around it

[light snow]

not even few but still whatever the battle of blackwyrm was it doesn't sound too pretty

[smoky matrix]

I mean, it was a battle.

[smoky matrix]

True.

[foggy sable]

and then you get into kantian vs utilitarian ethics and it is a whole mess

[smoky matrix]

But unfortunately, he really didn't have any way around it.

[copper spruce]

El skibidi

[smoky matrix]

No.

[copper spruce]

6 mutuals

[smoky matrix]

This is all that spammy mailman's fault.

[empty lynx]

is that a reference

[light snow]

do you think the pale king liked Hornet at all

[foggy sable]

hm good question

idk about hk lore outside of the more notable parts

[smoky matrix]

Okay, here's a theory on PK's foresight since we know very little about it and there are many flaws present with it.

PK foresaw TK returning to Hallownest and everything he did was according to that foresight. It's just that he didn't realise TK would be back after Hallownest had fallen and died.

[copper spruce]

He forgor

[smoky matrix]

I feel like he did.

[foggy sable]

alternatively what if he saw the EtV ending with radiance defeated and thk outside of the black egg

[light snow]

we know she was close to the white lady due to (the dreaded song of silk) but to be fair she was also Wed to the pale king and since white palace was probably still an actual place where Mr wyrm was maybe that's where Hornet gets her tool obsession

[foggy sable]

hence seeing the vessel plan worked and radiance would be defeated

[smoky matrix]

I do think that he would he scared of the Shade Lord in that case.
Though that gives a motivation for him to study Void.

[light snow]

all the more reason we should accept etv as the Canon ending heh

[foggy sable]

okay what about the flower ending

[smoky matrix]

I feel like he gave her the THK treatment. Tried his best to not get attached, but ended up becoming a good father anyway.

[smoky matrix]

Yeah, idk about that one.

[foggy sable]

I believe the flower stops the void from escaping godseeker

[light snow]

I mean makes sense from a foresight type of view not really from a canonicity one

[foggy sable]

but THK still escapes the black egg

[foggy sable]

alternatively what if the foresight was not contained to a single future

[smoky matrix]

Though, I feel like he'd still have a motivation to study Void even if he foresaw DNM. Seeing TK's Lord Of Shades form is still probably very scary.

[foggy sable]

that allows free choice to exist as a concept within world and thus the actions taken to matter

[copper spruce]

Hollow knight

[smoky matrix]

Dr. Strange in Infinity War reference.

[foggy sable]

I don't think I've ever seen infinity war tbh

[smoky matrix]

Insane.

[foggy sable]

I stopped watching marvel movies just before that I think

[smoky matrix]

Unfortunate.

[foggy sable]

probably

it wasn't for any reason it was just... not ending up watching them

[pliant bough]

https://tenor.com/view/otter-otters-nutria-gif-25743548

[smoky matrix]

Ponder.

[light snow]

14 million universes and in only one hallownest lives

[pliant bough]

u mean

[smoky matrix]

Fair.

[foggy sable]

what if PK put all the saws inside of the black egg

thus making radiance to path of pain if she wanted to leave

[smoky matrix]

Tbh, if there's any ending I want PK to foresee, it's probably DNM. Because like, it seems better idk.

[light snow]

dnm feels the most

complete

[foggy sable]

dnm makes sense

[light snow]

everything goes full circle

[foggy sable]

because radiance is defeated by the vessels

[smoky matrix]

I mean, she doesn't really have a physical form.

[light snow]

but embrace the void is just the one that makes more sense to me

[foggy sable]

what if we put the saws inside PVs dreams

[smoky matrix]

I do not like ETV, not gonna lie.
I didn't like Godmaster lore in general.

[smoky matrix]

True.

[foggy sable]

I only like godseeker for the godhome lifestyle

[light snow]

I dont like that you have to just go get the radiance from the god damn Godseeker but also the fact that thk's shade isn't present in the dreaded third act ending

somethings off about it

[foggy sable]

the lore itself around that dlc is weird

disconnected even

[light snow]

plus we get flashed the shade lord but that's just more a void heart thing so

[smoky matrix]

Yeahhhhhhhhhh.

[smoky matrix]

Let's not go too deep into this.

[light snow]

what

[foggy sable]

honestly the godhome lifestyle is also getting a bit old

[light snow]

you don't like talking about shade lord, lord of the shades

[smoky matrix]

Because SS spoilers in hk-disc.

[light snow]

oh

[smoky matrix]

[light snow]

well either way

[smoky matrix]

Do a Steel Soul run.

It's a good break.

And refreshes your mind very nicely.

[copper spruce]

Savescum

[foggy sable]

I was actually thinking of doing a chill non steel soul but yes glass soul run

[light snow]

being smashed by a hammer soul run

[foggy sable]

that is just p5ab

[smoky matrix]

Dodging the hammer is impossible without dash.

Unless you parry.

[light snow]

unless you perfectly parry it

[foggy sable]

parries being so weak in hk is sad

[light snow]

thank GOD they got better

parties in hk feel like steering a moose and they're nearly impossible without quick slash

[foggy sable]

and the freeze frames are annoying

but anyway the thing about steel soul is that it is basically a normal run at this point

[smoky matrix]

That's fair.

[foggy sable]

except blue lake shade skipless

[smoky matrix]

It feels weird, how easy this game has gotten.

[foggy sable]

it kinda does

[smoky matrix]

Me when a game I played for more than 500 hours feels easy:

[copper spruce]

Me when I play a game:

[foggy sable]

I remember last year when I started on the challenge runs

and now those exact ones are nice and relaxing

it is unusual

[smoky matrix]

The only real challenges I've done in HK are P1-4AB, R1-2 and Steel Soul.

[empty lynx]

I remember hating gpz so much i was comparing him to markoth

[foggy sable]

also do you ever lose perspective on what the normal hk experience is

[smoky matrix]

YES.

[empty lynx]

All the time

[foggy sable]

I was watching a friend doing p5

and I was like oh yes I guess this is what hk is

and p5 is only 5% of people

[smoky matrix]

I mean, nowadays when I am doing PoP, I equip MoP and Shaman and Strength and Twister.
But that's very much not the "usual" build for PoP lmao.

[foggy sable]

we don't talk about ab zote

[empty lynx]

Iam talking about regular zote

[foggy sable]

have you thought about hitless PoP?

[smoky matrix]

Always get hit at the final room.

[foggy sable]

it is, in my opinion, easier than some of the things you've done

ah I see

[smoky matrix]

To the last buzzsaw.

[empty lynx]

I probably could too but like i rather fight bosses in r5

[smoky matrix]

Regualr zote as in GPZ or ZTM?

[empty lynx]

though maybe i'd want to snatch the mobile PoP world record so

[empty lynx]

Gpz

[smoky matrix]

Ah.

[foggy sable]

the 1 year of challenge runs is almost here sometime in Feb

so idk what I plan on doing for that

[empty lynx]

R014

[smoky matrix]

When I first fought him, I found him tough but I can't say I found him annoying. Was very chaotic though.

[foggy sable]

I would like to decline

I had planned to run r5ab for it

[empty lynx]

Yea no p1 is just too boring

[foggy sable]

but that would be awful

[empty lynx]

God no.

[smoky matrix]

Surely do what you think a casual playthrough of HK looks like.

[foggy sable]

I don't think I can

getting hit hurts my soul

[smoky matrix]

[empty lynx]

Have you tried any% hitless then?

[foggy sable]

maybe it would be fun to do a 112% (not hitless) all at once or something

[foggy sable]

I tried it a long time ago but am more recently working on all skills hitless

[smoky matrix]

I don't even remember how to get Dream Nail in a casual playthrough, holy shit.
In normal, I just Shade skip and in Steel Soul, I get CHeart and go to Blue Lake.

[carmine lava]

what do you mean

[young lake]

hi jay

[empty lynx]

112% one sitting ig

Maybe a speedrun

[foggy sable]

doing 112% at one time instead of over a while like I normally do

perhaps turning on livesplit or something woulc be fun

[smoky matrix]

Hi Serdsss.

[foggy sable]

anything but just pantheons

[carmine lava]

√

[smoky matrix]

Hmm?

[carmine lava]

surd

[smoky matrix]

Oh.

[young lake]

hru

[smoky matrix]

I don't know.

You?

[tepid halo]

has anyone here played hollow knight

[foggy sable]

nah

[tepid halo]

oh 😢

[arctic cobalt]

What is hollow knight?

[young lake]

no

hollow knights

honestly a bad game

[arctic cobalt]

Never heard of it

[tepid halo]

u guys should play it

[tulip narwhal]

@real pasture

[young lake]

FLOGGY

[tepid halo]

its about bugs underground

[arctic cobalt]

Sounds unfun

[smoky matrix]

It's Goggles.

[real pasture]

Hi floggy

[tulip narwhal]

Ew is that

[smoky matrix]

It's Cortysus.

[young lake]

floggy im playing shardscapes :')

[tulip narwhal]

SERDNA??

[tepid halo]

the guy in ur profile happens to look like the protag

[foggy sable]

bugs above ground is a way better premise

[tulip narwhal]

Hi cortysus

[arctic cobalt]

Coincidence

[tepid halo]

i dont think it is

[foggy sable]

bugs underground? no thanks

[arctic cobalt]

Bruh

[tulip narwhal]

Ive got a much better level for u

[arctic cobalt]

What a bad idea

[tulip narwhal]

Hop on denouement

[tepid halo]

underground has more bugs than out the ground

[young lake]

i shockingly ( ) found out that everyend is miserable to play

[tepid halo]

😭

[young lake]

no

[foggy sable]

who would even play such a game

[arctic cobalt]

Fr

[tulip narwhal]

Whyyyyyy

I did a practice run and I LOOOVED it

[smoky matrix]

Defo not me.

[arctic cobalt]

It prob has less than 1k downloads

[young lake]

im not doing like 4 frame perfects and then a easy ass level

[tulip narwhal]

Its 9 frame perfects

[young lake]

whatever bro

[smoky matrix]

Serdna do you like Tidal Wave?

[tepid halo]

u guys are bullying a small indie game

[tulip narwhal]

Only a chudnut like serdna wouldnt hop on denouement

[young lake]

i think its cool

[subtle phoenix]

hey look what i got

[arctic cobalt]

Aint no way gd reference

[foggy sable]

but actually I would have to assume that the people who join the hk discord play hk

[smoky matrix]

Sure.

[subtle phoenix]

thanks for looking

[smoky matrix]

Peak.

[hybrid holly]

I do

[wooden egret]

After becoming the champion of fools I tried to "enter" this place thinking it was a cave door and not a sign.

[foggy sable]

wow what is hk like

[arctic cobalt]

I couldnt find any footage online about this game

[foggy sable]

I think I downloaded godhome instead of hollow knight so it is all a bit confusing

[arctic cobalt]

Lmao

[young lake]

like what is this hitbox bro

[smoky matrix]

[tulip narwhal]

Its peaaak

The level kinda falls off after 3% ngl

[young lake]

no it is not 😭

[tulip narwhal]

ok hater

You dont appreciate real art grr

[shrewd meadow]

birdna

[tulip narwhal]

birdna

[shrewd meadow]

shut up phloggers

[limpid knot]

Is this real art

[tulip narwhal]

I think so

[tulip narwhal]

Make me.

[young lake]

hi throw

[wooden egret]

GUYS HOW TF IS THE HUNTER NOT INFECTED
HIS JOURNALS HAVE LITERAL COOKING ADVICES

[young lake]

youre so RIGHT i dont

[shrewd meadow]

serdna did you see I learned proper mavuika combos

[young lake]

i hadn't seen that

[shrewd meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/783921751004151858/1463160043741516025/Dire_Shocktrooper_Sim_70_Res.mp4?ex=69717a3a&is=697028ba&hm=f59814730a48761a4d0c1cb6142ef2f34e21f1f17986c480acc27702331f6def&

70 res enemy

that's why damage lower

[twilit garnet]

How tf am I pogoing acid in godhome😭

[shrewd meadow]

we love acid pogo

[limpid knot]

Wah

How

[shrewd meadow]

clearly someone wasn't around back in 2023

[copper spruce]

What's a horse?

[shrewd meadow]

and 2022

[limpid knot]

Who is someone

[shrewd meadow]

when people pogod the acid in p5 for good luck when doing hitless

[twilit garnet]

I'm in the uun godhome thingy and I'm pogoing

[tulip narwhal]

Oh yeaaa

[limpid knot]

Oh I REMEMBER NOWWW

[tulip narwhal]

Underplat is lowk overrated do the acid pogo instead

[twilit garnet]

I wasn't actually around for that, I bought the game 3 months ago😭

[limpid knot]

Is 100 percent and 70 hours good

Im beating nkg

At the moment

[twilit garnet]

I think?

Imma start pogoing acid for good luck too then

[foggy sable]

for some reason I thought that acid dealt damage

so didn't risk pogoing it in a run

[pliant bough]

🐴

[reef oriole]

How big of a deal is a radiant p5 run?

Within the community

[pliant bough]

small deal

🤏🏽

[reef oriole]

Got it

[foggy sable]

depends on who you talk to

[pliant bough]

smaller than this even

[twilit garnet]

The ismas tear in question

[reef oriole]

It’s all becuase r5 ab exists huh

[tulip narwhal]

wtf...

[foggy sable]

of course, asking a chat where several people have done it will lead to it being downplayed more as an achievement

[pliant bough]

floggy my level is almost done fr

[tulip narwhal]

Thats so cool!!

[pliant bough]

yes but theres a major bug in it.i didnt fix 🗣️

[tulip narwhal]

Getz oink to verify

[reef oriole]

Have you done it out of curiosity

Don’t crank my chain

[pliant bough]

true

[pliant bough]

im allergic to bad challenges

as a result i only play AVERNUS and KRYPTON

[reef oriole]

What’s a better and similarly difficult challenge

[tulip narwhal]

Avernus ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[pliant bough]

floggy gets it!

[tulip narwhal]

Krypton golden

[young lake]

ok floggy i did it

[reef oriole]

Within hk

[quartz cave]

@young lake @tulip narwhal @pliant bough @foggy sable

[young lake]

floggy do i go from deadlocked to a #169 demon

[foggy sable]

Hi oswald

[tulip narwhal]

Oh hell yea

[young lake]

don't

[tulip narwhal]

How many attempts cro

[young lake]

ever talk to me again osbald..

[reef oriole]

Is that like harder than shmw already

[young lake]

ok like

dont worry about it

[reef oriole]

It probably is

[young lake]

idr actually

[tulip narwhal]

Why not

[foggy sable]

Anyway about people did r5

[tulip narwhal]

Go from deadlocked to storming summit!!!

[pliant bough]

drop HK and play my top 50

[copper spruce]

Ok

[tulip narwhal]

Trueee

[young lake]

ok cool you want me to

play a level inspired after a bad game

[reef oriole]

What did you make

[tulip narwhal]

yeah

Duhhh

[ember bronze]

How is it that I can first try nkg without much problems but Traitor Lord almost damn near ended my steel soul run? 😭

[young lake]

I HATE DISCORD

I DIDNT

AURUGH

[copper spruce]

Nkg ez

[pliant bough]

<-- imagine ts but better. its super secret tho...

[tulip narwhal]

Its ok serdna

[young lake]

im moving to SKYPE.

[tidal jewel]

Patamos geo

[reef oriole]

IMO combustion is the best top 50 and Deimos is a close second

[mortal ember]

The voices are near

They are watching

[pliant bough]

idk if im even allowed to show ts much ...

[tulip narwhal]

No I like sakupen circles abyss of darkness and subsuming vortex

[pliant bough]

no floggy

[mortal ember]

My server has 15 ppl and is dry

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[reef oriole]

👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼