#hk-discussion
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you are hungry
its so funny how the godseeker is like "nah u aint good enough to beat the 5th pantheon" after i quite literally just nohit absolute radiance
but yeah this is legit harder then path of pain
I like you already
She's an elitest prick
what is the text even about after u beat abs rad hog
I might move on to Terraria real soon
you have to nohit for the delicate flower ending
tbh i wanna get terraria
it seems so complicated tho
so you dont really need to use focus
hopefully 1.4.5 comes out this month FINALLY
no you don't
yes you do
trust me it's not
Something something "wow you beat an imprint of moth god"
"Now beat p5"
delicate flower breaks on hit
no?
it's so much fun I fucking love this game
you just give flower to godseeker and it does it
oh alr
damage breaks delicate flower
might try it then but none of my friends play it
so i lowkirkenuinely got no one to play with
@languid gale when you start it might be slow and simple but at certain point all the shit GOES CRAAZYY
once godseeker is given it you get the ending upon pantheon completion
What is bro yapping about 
Hey Grey
hi terra
WE ARE CHARLIEEEEE KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRK
I lost a good run yesterday because my power went out
better late than never
Rip
honestly take your time with it alone the first playthrough, then play with friends
imo
Does being stopped by a wall with crystal heart and falling from very high grounds break delicate flower?
WE CAAAARRYY THE 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
yeah
i js have no idea what to do tho
we fight for the gospel
Yeah that's pretty solid
You probably just need practice, could watch a vid or two about the fight if you're really stuck
grimm is worse than epstein
breathing is illegal
😭
ok but seriously
the whole shtick with grimm
according to the law of fish
is practice
breathing is ilegal
What’re you yapping about bro
it's not hard bru, trust me 
youll understand whne your olrder
both NKG and PV are fights that are heavily based upon learning the moves
and knowing how to counter them
I am older
ik but what do i do tho
nuh uh
radiance was easy for me path of pain was easy for me but grimm is so much worse
Never said that
when you got death sentence maybe
no
What??
i curse you with 500 shades
the 🐐 guy that welcomes you to the world can tell you anything you need
and every item that you wanna create - how to create it
alr ty
The game has a really fluid progression system
There's a lot of content that doesn't have to be done in a specific order
A lot of it is just chilling & powering up to bash some bosses in
Maybe build a pretty base
Grind for absurdly rare drops
It's pretty chill
hey Terralocked bro
heyhey
what playtime on Terra?
is stalwart shell good for grimm?
No
not really good for anything
Idk
I've been playing since console launch
I have like 500h on steam tho
i tried using shape of unn but its so akward to use
Idek what it did ngl, it’s that bad
WWW
HUGE
I recently found this guy "Wild lmao"
absolute goat
funny and very skilled
also guys ik im not supposed to talk about it but is it bad that i had 500 hours on silksong with only 70 precent completion>
erm what
Okay so that's just
Not possible
I think I've seen a couple of his vids
He does hardcore co-op stuff right?
That is crazy
does it count hours on the pause menu?
:3
yeah, hardcore run with x30 enemy spawns, killed Duke Fishron as he chase him throughout the entire world, he's very fun and soo good broo
bro
delete ts
x30 enemy spawns 
60 twins?
idk how thats spoilers but yeah i wasnt lying
it is since this is hk discussion
not sk discussion
surely we spoiler ||lockets||
and the area ur in shows
like the probability of enemy spawns are x30
Oh, 30x base spawnrates
and if a boss has spawns they spawn all at once
gotcha
ye ye
OH NO IM IN THE WRONG CHANNEL
ill check my old hollow knight save it was probobly bad too
he has 4 episodes of a run, ABSOLUTE CINEMA 🖐️
🤚

guys anyone have tips for pure vessel
this was my first acc could be worse
practice
learn all his moves
nkg and pv are like
the two MOST learn heavy fights
keep your shade cloak for his triple slashes and dash through him
they're almost completely free of rng when you learn how to deal with their moves and strike back
dont need to spoiler godhome
you can also shade cloak through his swords that he throws
you can also pogo on the first slash for some damage
what charms should i use
i would say keep shade cloak for his daggers and daggers only
i didnt bother to do ANY dream bosses
unless you've been caught off guard
Preferably jump over its attacks rather than dash through them cause it's way easier (to me at least)
ts risky tho
and i was missing fluke worm and other stuff and only 1 ending
i went with a standard nail build
his triple slash is just cringe
GG
🎉🎉
gg
fair but then again i use mark of pride/longnail if i need the extra notch
ddark when he focuses circles
when he what
I play P4 All bindings for 2 and a half months now.
oh boy you're gonna have a lot of fun
Nail range helps with parrying his triple strike or pogoing over it tbh
Even so
Could complete the game like 5x or more from scratch in that time
Parry is good to sdash imo
Hellune
HOWEVER if you're also going to try pantheon of hollownest
Oh hiii terra long time no see
i think i got up to the circle attempt once
keep in mind your charms will be kept for the true final boss
Has it been a long time?
lune you got your songs right?
but assuming you're on pantheon of the knight for now
I mean i slept so it was basically a time skip
Wdym?
hahah
heavy blow is the best charm
the best thing is to keep going after him on attuned
when you asked for songs
learn his attacks
in your name lune
search up a guide if you want
🗿
Gotcha
once you get him on attuned once keep practicing until you feel like you're ready
try out ascended if you may
Oh yeah i got peak songs
But more is good
very good
radiant is honestly pretty similar to ascended since by the time you beat ascended you should know his attacks
go ascended, overcharm and use fury 
Im now doing Path Of Pain on steel soul…..
dw its not easy to die in PoP
especially if u use hiveblood
That’s the problem….
OMG I DIED TO NIGHTMARE KING EPSTEIN AT THE LAST PHASE BRAH HE WAS ONE SHOT TRUST
Shoot me some song reccs 
Any particular genre
the fourth puffer thing is last phase right
Uhhh
Basically anything but rap
not a phase
each one indicates 25% hp
I have it but i forgot to equip it..
there shouldn't be a fourth puffer at all though?
yeah so i was at the last 25 and i got a lot of hits
75% 50% 25%
idk it was 4 or 3
heh
off the bat
are you using strength
die
thats only the first fight tho no>
no
yeah
On nkg def not because you can't even trigger an early puffer I think
the puffer thing is easy
and qslash?
str doesn't matter
it's % health based not #hits
its just that first bat attack
Not really a song but an artist ive been loving is Saint Motel. puzzle pieces, acr in the hole, cold cold man etc are great from them
Ty
Will take a look
yes ik but strength kills it quicker
Nail art time
aye raps one of the best genres if you find the right songs its just ALOT of slop
It does, but it won't change the number of staggers
Can only reduce stagger count if you deal so much damage he dies before he can do 'em all
And it's never gonna be more than 3-4
4 if you do the disrespect at the start
if you like other genres you might like TPAB by kendrick because he does ALOT of genre mixing @vivid creek
Bro ive seen the guy on tiktok like robot dancing to ts i forgot about that
TELL ME HOW MUCH A DOLLAR REALLY COST
raps really worth getting into
the song is so peak
THE QUESTION IS DETRIMENTAL
I haven't

I barely use Tiktok
my favorite song of all time is literally I
PARALYZING MY THOUGHTS forgor the lyrics sry
This lad
I LOVE MYSELF
specifically the snl live version @ivory storm
oh lmaoo
I have like 2.5 main musical preferences but 2 of them aren't really popular :v
where he goes extreme?
man that's hell of a show
one of the best preformances ive ever seen
like?
LITERALLY BROO
Folk (not country) and metal
And rock
There's some overlap between rock & metal which is why I lump them to a 1.5
also listen to lonerism by tame impala especially mind mischief @vivid creek
@vivid creek if you want to enjoy the silence
https://open.spotify.com/track/0yp3TvJNlG50Q4tAHWNCRm?si=a4cdfd29816b411b
The boat I row is my life in a nutshell
fjlsdhfklasdjh
patience and on track too 😔
Also techno /eurobeat stuff is pretty cool too 👍
sbody is really good for pv
sbody is good for most bosses
sbody is goated
if you have quick slash
except when you dont have charm notches
Oh, back on topic
Lol
rate the top 5 songs: 5. Prusuit of happiness by kid cudi 4. DUCKWORTH. by kendrick 3. change by jcole 2. mind mischief by tame impala. 1 (i live on snl) by kendrick
sharp shadow
sbody no quick slash is whatever
yeah
not unless you're dashing through his attacks all the time (just pogo 😭)
what?
pretty brave to bring up sharp shadow when I'm the one with the nkg video of it
i thought you were sharp shadow #1 hater
one more thing tho since you like metal youve def heard him but if you havent listen to dio
This is pretty good music btw
Tyty
and also his old band elf and rainbow
Yeah
I've got like a bazillion dio songs in my favourites
what r yalls favorite music in the game
soul sanctum
u know his old band elf? its not exactly metal but its really good
Haven't heard of it
Will take a look
We all know thats the place we hated the most on our first playthru
city is the best music imo
i feel like people only realise how bad deepnest is on the second playthrough
like i dont remember it being that bad for the first time
no you're alone on this one
lets go i got to pv second stagger hitless but then he used his big circle and his voidy ahh dih
gg hive knight biggest fraud ever
Imprinted Void is cool
Maybe cause u were very geared up at the first playthru due to you not knowing how actual deepnest is so u geared up, went there, didnt feel anything, but at second playthru ur experienced so u go to deepnest without any gears
lune I was doing a nail binding run and my power died on white defender...
eurobeat??
did mfing Europe invent a genre of itself
rip
fjdlaksjflasdk;
why is nail binding taking more time to do than charm binding
His bapunda shutted down ur power off
exactly
wdym folk?
also which bands dud
I had a nu metal phase in my teens
id only listen to patience on track is relatable but kinda mid
I even had the chance to see my favorite band!!! :DDD KORN CAME TO MY COUNTRY BROOO

lemme queue them real quick
Cus ur charms help u boost ur nail and stuff but ur nails nerfed and charmless is just pure skill
yep
You keep getting so close on nail binding
it is more that nail arts are nerfed I think
and I like nail arts
I probably have close to 10 hours in it by now it should be done already
yo i just beat pv for the first time
Really need that weathered mask hey?
that was kinda underwhelming
gg
which I acknowledge how it sounds
oh hey patience is the single off the album @earnest zinc
yes I don't have it yet
now i need to beat him in p4
yeah its on the b sides tho
am i the only one who thinks p3 is harder than p4
eh
its not super rare ig
Not just you, Sly is harder than PV.
bro I had 3 months to think on this question
gpz is fine once you know to not pogo him constantly
my final conclusion is that depends on the player a lot
pv is easy as well
p1 bindings was harder than p2 bindings for me
I really dislike Nailsage Sly
gpz is just more annoying
yeah hes fine once you know how to beat him
like yeah GPZ is all random and shit, then Hornet can catch you off guard but on the other side if you haven't played a lot of fights like PV's you'll just keep getting nervous and die to his fast attacks, also the fact that you have only 2 hits of life there and half the Pantheon
sly is also extremely chill once you figure out the proper spacing and punishes
Hiii unnamed
yeah
pretty sure it's like p3ab=p4ab>p2ab>p1ab
also isn't P1ab harder than P2ab?
Still doing rs4?
i had a complete garbage rs4 attempt today so i decided to not play anymore but now the addiction is kicking in
Lmao
that is so real
well by complete garbage i mean i got like 18/45 distance and then had a complete meltdown around boss 27ish
and never recovered
gpz alone is almost harder then p4ab tbh, he is top 4 hardest
was like 10 hits bro i'm cooked 
without gpz its different
the only achievements i dont have are p4, p5, 112%, and the hunter ones because i dont know how to get them
the thing is that honestly of the top 5 biggest issues in p5ab only gpz features in the other pantheons
but the fact you got 4 hits of life and just 1 boss for carrying your lifeblood
Maybe
I have some other, larger issues with p5ab tbh
yes
the rest is absrad (duh), asc arena markoth (duh), p5 collector (the adds are harder which is the real issue), and failed champ (for whom you have lifeblood in p4)
p2 has blobbles marmu & nosk
It's significantly harder than p1, imo
p3ab also has attuned collector
ok fair point lmao
galien shaped issues
eww
took me about 2 weeks of consistent playing to get p3ab but 2 months later I still can't finish p4ab
and
alright I got 1 month break don't count that
okay it's been too long but there is absolutely no way that galien is a major issue for p5ab casual right
like he's annoying and randomly kills you sometimes but surely not a massive roadblock
Hes like a half spike in difficulty
not gpz absrad markoth collectot level but still harder than most others
true
just think more
idk lmao
like don't rush
nah I haven't even attempted p5ab
Like, marmu is also galien tier in non-hitless ab imo
Threats but not run-killer usually
I think of my p5ab deaths 1 was to soul warrior, 1 was to ecg, 1 was to fc, and the rest were all to collector/zote/absrad
soul warrior?
don't ask
unable to heal i'm dead
collector?
wait what's the difference between Galien P3 and Galien P5
none
Can we ask about cg2
Nothing
I kept trying to heal soul warrior and getting hit
mm mm
I have a cg2 problem
maybe the bench
oh wait you cant one shot the summons in ab can you
I forgor 💀
I died to cg2 in p5, p5ab, and onws
Wow
I've lost r5, r5 charmless runs to the boss
ddark the scream, sdash the finger beam
and maybe some other run variants
and he spawns collesium enemies
Thats all ive ever learnt
mf literally spawns colosseum mosquitoes, rolls and
in P5
primal aspids and your nail is literally paper so yeah
some of us were not good when doing challenges the first time

and with ab you have 4 masks
Ahh what a shame
taking enough time to screenshot the tutorial before pinging mods 
Dyno not working
Special code mars

bro pv is so goofy when you knock him when hes about to go into the air
why do they even continue sending the same scam?
Done
that guy had been a member of this server since september
well the more people see the scam the more people have a chance to fall for it
gm
Well because apparently its working a little
gmcb
and the way to get more people to see it is to spam it
… fucking hell
maybe he got hacked
Thanks guys
hello
They do
Yeah most likely this
And then just turn it into a bot lol
Damn
what words trigger dyno saying "watch your language"
aparantly 🌽 does too
the word or the non censored one
you know what i mean by that
just had to double check
Draw ithon4?
maybe
dont feel lime checking
Don't bring that up
ok
@knotty ravine rot said he uploaded the new version of infinity to lumafly
Hilarious thing to see
Nosk holding up BI
yeah he couldn't figure out why nosk god fixes it
Coconut.jpg all over again
oh neat
lmao
I remember that
aight do tell him to put me on that playtest list tho I am top 1 rot fans
well i mean I've never played the game it's from but I've heard of it
What does nosk god fix specifically
I don't think he has one lol
infinity and boundless infinity
for me it was just the sprites for the like a lot of slashes attack that I had an issue with
the entire mod
I mean yeah but like
is infinity supposed to be easier than BI?
actually I guess you wouldn’t know
what’s bl
oh that’s i
oh that’s the hard inf pv i forgot the normal one exists im gonna be so honest
a lot easier
like cool i guess i can get rid of telegraphs and make my life miserable like no
I mean infinity is free, i got to phase 5 on my first try and beat it on the third
but I would recommend beating infinity first
yeah I call it minimal telegraphs
and it doesn't seem to make the fight any harder
i mean i guess but i like it when my bosses are well designed and telegraphed good
alr, current plan is to beat Sans, then Infinity or Boundless, depending on how masochism pilled I am rn
just go straight to boundless inf pv
and then please go play purity. please. holy shit
alr, gotta kill bonehead first
when i get back I think I'll start a daily binf series until I beat it RaB MT
itll be peak
can we get this for purity too can we get legit one change and its making the first nail in the nail barrage spend a little longer before shooting out
Just finished ||the white castle, if it is THAT difficult, I don't even want to know how difficult the path of pain is||
So where do I go, now that I have both halves?
equip it and go to the abyss
walk around there
the floor beneath you will break
but only when you have the kingsoul equipped
lol sry for late reply, isn't this some british stuff
or Ireland?
wait pure vessel uses rune rage
sounded scandinavian but English is sussy 
It's an american band immitating a celtic style
no, its focus
ahaa
it's called focus but close enough
do you really listen to this in your car haha
or like when playing
Oh...
I like it when I wanna chill out
I prefer metal/rock when I want the energy boost
you also get a little lore bit
when youre claiming the voidheart
which is the pale king taking thk out of the abyss
and leaving his 4.5 million children behind
including the knight
Well i am not much of a lore digger
Hold on. 4.5 mil?
Fucking hate Sans
yeah he has like an infinite amount of kids
bruh pv died to my spore shroom
FINISHED IT.
Really fokin fertile, he is
yep
chat what do i do in hollow knight
hitless 112apb
do some p5 speedrunning fr
day 1 of doing abs rad 100 times in a row
how do i get good at white defender
oo maybe
Shriek/ddark to destroy his dung balls, shriek when he comes out the ground
helps
alright
Oh... my siblings no longer attack me
anything with a melee hitbox can parry Oro dash slash
i may be wrong but dont all of them die other than hornet, the knight, and the hollow knight
i have two more dreamers to go
Fantastic job
my method for killing lost kin in p4 is killing him as quickly as possible
u got that
“cant kill me if ur dead” huh
this is so peak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIjPAKBQsAM looking through my old uploads idk if i wanna do this 
THERE'S A HOLLOW KNIGHT VERSION?
i have so many like stupid long distance runs
HOY SHIT 7 HOURS STRAIGHT I TRIED AND I BEAT NIGHTMARE KING GRIMM
Anything with a directional bitbox can
What
man how the fuck do people do speedruns this fast
THAT TOOK LONGER THAN RADIANCE AND PATH OF PAIN COMBINNED
i think theres nothing for me to do other than achievements, rad hog, bindings
so i tried speedrunning
then keep dying to watchers
top 3 moments in HK

i love @cinder jackal
i think i watched zvypurrs world record run on youtube
i know i watched a 30 min one
WHY DO I KEEP DYING TO WHITE DEFENDER
if that run was hers then she got horrible thk rng
The double danage
So where do I go now that I got the void heart?
bapanada
Idk kill THK
either go ahead and get true ending or continue to find random shi
its crazy that all glitches speedruns are possible in -5 mins
go fight the sun
First furyless clear incoming
Eloki, when fish
no lol this is from 2023
I am asking for the location of said sun
im so washed at godhome stuff
i didnt know that existed thats awesome
you have to dream nail the hollow knight when hornet knocks it down
Yeah it exists! It's even compatible with rando lmao
oh, so I need to refight THK
wait have you gotten the sealed siblings ending yet
hm i kinda wanna do like a true 100% playthrough to derust that seems fun
You should Speedrun catching a fish 
yep
Even better catch a fish hitless
wait thats awesome
I am the fish so what does that mean
do different areas have unique fish?
Okay, that is neat
Not sure how it works exactly. I know scurry used it in a rando once
All fish hitless 
ok i got past white defender
I should practice radiance, since I fucking suck at the game and wanna see how I'd do against harder bosses
OH! My own SHADE doesn't attack me!
hello
NOOOOOOOO
i only really have like 1.5k in any% probably but the general movement carries over
you could get around the same skill with much less hours if you just use them better but i wasn't doing everything max efficiency
someone like skate has 2k or so and is still only slightly worse at both our peaks but way more consistent than me
yea that'd also do it
ive practiced qga a bit too for some reason
cuz i did one in multiplayer
and didnt realize it wasnt needed for herrah
lmao
if you're looking into speedrunning slightly more seriously i'd recommend joining the speedrunning discord but mainly just get practice tools as soon as possible
its not needed but its most optimal
fate
theres a discord?
on one hp and on steel soul
worlds best pause
took me a while to figure that out as well
ik
isnt it like a 50s time save?
yeah it should be pinned in #speedrunning
alr tysm
~40 i believe
i think that was timed by nebula so i don't trust it to be a good comparison for most player
at higher level it's crazy ofc but at like sub hour it's really just down to preference
i would recommend switching to qga at like sub 40 but anytime you feel ready is good
omg hi vzy :3
alr ty
thats probably what ill do then
I think it's 35s lp
throw oomfie
got it
because you save less when the guys don't die in 1 hit from a double vs
lp petras 🩵
and also no thorns warp
vzy oomfie 💜
dw other than gpz markoth lineup and abs rad its easy]
its tedious though
hi guys I'm new
hello new

i have 112% now
gg
crystal peak
kk
yo thk is really slow after beating pv
oh lord i should try fight thk again
THK is also a lot different from PV
they have a lot of simimlarities
You should fight him with low gear or itemless that's more fun
no it isn't worth it
Okay, how do I get to the pantheons?
i fought him with like 6 masks and like 6 charm notches
once
i would jump so early
I got wrecked by the triple slash repeatedly
is ||Mantis lords|| late game? i heard it is but I fought it after ||hornet|| lol
it was so bad
early game
no
Sorry, but no
typically early game
how can someone possibly think its late game 😭
at least they don't bully me anymore
no early game
How does one make it to the pantheons?
godhome
guys I'm fighting primal aspid what do I do
Well I need to find junk pit
*needs simple key
waterways
Thanks
I feel like I shouldn't be listening to this
you shouldnt
Sorry, normally i don't mind spoilers, but I forget other newbies
it's oki
Triple slash is so dumb
LETS GO PURE COMPLETION
it is
3 more achievements to go
how am i supposed to know what enemies arent in my hunters journal
how do i do that
or you just never do journal
It's a good thing in Silksong they just show the entries you miss
Hollow Knight
what is crystal crawler
a crawler of crystals obv
what does it look like
the guys in crystal peak that shoot beams iirc
you gotta spell the,
do i spell them
wait how am i supposed to find more lightseeds where do they spawn
Dead channel
*alive channel
"I was I have" lol
hoi genio :D
YES
CAUGHT THE POKEMON I WAS TRYNA CATCH
"no clue why guess became was"
what dialect of english is this ;-;
oh wait
im just dumb
don't mind me :D
That is on you 
indeed lol
I'd love a macaron
HOLY SHIT HOW LONG HAVE I LEFT HER HERE FOR
Yeah D:
Lol
NOOOOOO
Since you first met her
Technically
what is this????
Did you fight a boss in Queen's Garden
no idea
i have 112
||marmu|| 

Nooooooooooooo
?
She's forever depressed now
That's so much better tho :(
yeah but she is sad
true
You mean the infection seeds
YES
Crossroads elevator
And in front of the grub guarded by the fat guy
Near myla
Are you trying to get the Hunters Mark
yes
There are a few very hard items to get which don't count for Hunters Mark but can be there in the Hunters Journal
the only other thing i need are the crystal guys
One of them include the Weathered Mask which is the hardest item to get in the whole game
ik that
There's a guy doing a yt short series speedrunning random items
based content creator
The other ones are the Seal of Binding after Path of Pain and Void Idol for doing all bosses in HoG on Attuned, Acended or Radient
canman18
His entire comment section has because weathered mask
Like dude, it's not actually that hard, it's not like a deal with the devil 
For his skill he can definitely do charm binding and it's so easy to reclear
yeah everyone is waiting for weathered mask or radiant void idol
Weathered mask would also be slop because it's like 4 hours 
It's not even P5AB it's just P5EB which I think I should be able to beat
Yeag
But yeah his videos are quite cool
He did dark Joni's
what is eb
each binding
That alone shows he's actually committed, even if he's not the best
No
oo that's pretty impressive
oh
Hollow is best
why'd I say true with a Japanese accent there lmao
P5EB really is just charm + slop
I may love anime and have done karate all my life but I'm not from Japan lol
P5eb but in 2 runs
-Charms
-The other 3
Lol
Charms is legit almost as hard as the other 3 together imo
Nahhh
3 bindings is actually very evil
Yea I can do most bosses in AB so charmless shouldn't be hard
Like, nail + soul is cutting your damage output by so much
Ehhh
Soul is maybe a little much
But shell & nail together are weaker than just charms for sure
Soul + Shell makes dying really easy
Yeah I buy that one
Since those don't really combo
Strength just destroys the whole purpose of nail binding for 3 notches
Strength puts you at 20 damage which is still a 37.5% damage decrease
Nah
It's still like 33-ish% less nail damage iirc
Shamans just gets crazy good with nail binding
Yep
But then you have soul binding making shamans weaker
I mean compared to Charms binding the damage is practically the same except you still have 8 notches left
Yeah that's why nail alone is not even close to charm
wait is o&m, sheo, sly and pv required?
But with soul and mask you're gonna commit more nothes for weaker results
um.. they're kinda right
You need to do P1 to P5 EB which just includes every boss
unn created greenpath out of dreams, and because unn is a higher being, they were able to impose those dreams on reality
Well they have entries
They are not needed for Hunter's mark tho
no for hunter mark i meant
For mask useing Heart is pretty worth it
Yes, but it's still worse than normal
The real kicker pulling the combo together is soul
Nerfs damage so it combos with nail, and nerfs survivability which combos with mask
The binding ranked by difficulty will be
Charm>Soul>Mask>Nail
Still this is stronger than onws but
do you need hunters mark for hunters mark
Soul makes you heal less which matters a lot and there is no charm which changes that if your doing them individually compared to heart charm for mask binding
i have 62/63 achievements on hk now
do you need hunter's mark for seal of binding
No
I'm curious
Mask binding is not a thing I'm R5
So which would be harder
R5 charmless or R5 nail + soul binding
go find out 
Surely charmless
Idk
Full spell build + quick focus & heart seems like it could be pretty good for 3/4b
Something like one of these builds
I think R5 charmless that's just my prediction
A big downside of soul is the healing nerf
@ greyfirey do R5 nail + soul binding and confirm
Yes
Still you have a really bad damage output with it
Yea and in R5 you don't heal so it doesn't make too huge of a difference
ehhhh
Marmu
I know R5 no < R5 CB
And also -1R5 < R5 CB
What is CB
No not R5 Ono 💀
Charm binding
What is -1R5
I was gonna say that doesn't seem quite right 
1 nail damage
It is with or without spells
R5 ono hasn't been done yet...
-1 nail damage r5
Heal the enemies by hitting them 
Obviously with spells lol
wait what am I doing?
Really?
why am I doing it rather
That's surprising
Yea other R5 will be so many hours long
yo i dont know how true this is but apparently soul nail and mask bindings together are easier than charm binding by itself? i dont really think its true personally
R5 charmless vs nail + soul binding
NOOO I FORGOT ABOUT THIS
Consequences of your actions
That's something terra said but not really, 3 of them is really bad
why does it stay there 😭
that just sounds like soul binding with no strength
i feel so bad
I can't imagine it being even close to charm binding
what abt masks
masks don't matter hitless
And you have ddark even if you don't wanna spam spells off cooldown
It's a lot easier the difficulty gap is huge
you can even take eater to have a cast every 2 nail hits
-1noP5 is like 15 hours long
wb not hitless
You can't do that hitless
Just having shamans & nmg already makes anything without charm binding leagues ahead of cb, lol
Like legit impossible
why?
NMG is a thing true...
15 hours long hitless run like
oh i thought you meant like theoretically impossible even
Theoretically I mean yeah...
IM SORRY NAILMASTER
what even is -1noP5?
I hope no one tries it cause I don't think anyone will be sane after that
But we have to remember theoretically your hand can quantum tunnel through a table
1 damage nail only R5
Every nail hit deals 1 damage and nail only
yeah that sounds virtually impossible
It's also a 15 hour run doing that without getting hit is insane
And I don't blame him, he must have been tired as fuck
that is my point lol
thanks for stating for me
Even if he slept which I most certainly believe he did
frr
That's so sad P5 is already long enough and 12 hours is crazy
Imagine getting hit to tl walkforward or something
-1?
For comparison
P045 is about 2 hours long
iP5AB is 4 hours long
In -1onp5
so it heals the enemie
And you know, iP5AB is just 4x damage without movement
level -1 isnt the same as -1 damage
1 dmg
oh
Nail upgrades are in increments of 4 damage
So nail 0 - 4dmg = nail -1
-12 yeah but
forgot the number
It is -12
what about nail -2
usually means 0 nail damage
That's heals 3hp to your enemies
Gay mantis has spawned
-3 damage would be pretty random honestly even if it makes logical sense
Hi quan
Nail damage is essentialy 4x+5 for nail level x
Heal the enemy 9 health to do 80 dmg with shriek
Seems pretty profitable
i know what the nail damage is for each level
i said -3 makes logical sense
Yes it is 4x+5 unless x=-2 in which case it outputs 0
hi
Team Cherry does have other random non logical stuff like Ddark dealing more damage when your enemy is to the left or Abyss Shreak knockback
Nahnah
Wraiths kb
anything below nail 0 is community made though
tc has nothing to do with this lol
so its not a tc logic thing
Wraiths Knockback is so stupid
My best understanding is it pushes radially away from you
Having negative damage wouldn't normally make sence
But sometimes it's still weird
It would heal enemies, up to max health.
funny and hard challenge
Cro
guys i started a p5 run by acciedent
the only time ive seen it used though is -12
How was it
Just see how far you get
