hk-discussion

[sage ocean]

hot take: POP is easier than normal white palace

[sly tartan]

spoil idc atp

[sly tartan]

whats white palace

[dull lion]

cloth dies

tiso dies

[subtle arch]

Plus, quirrel should’ve read the precepts, Precept Forty-Four: 'You Can Not Breathe Water'. Water is refreshing, but if you try to breathe it you are in for a nasty shock.

[dull lion]

quirrel dies

[sly tartan]

i knew that but whos tiso

[subtle arch]

Hey, that’s, um, cloth CAN live

[sly tartan]

so can myla

[dull lion]

the guy who appears 4-5 times in the game while you explore

[subtle arch]

Yes, that’s TRUE

[subtle arch]

He got Caesar’d

[sly tartan]

yea in colloseum of fools

[dull lion]

CHISAAAAAAAAA

[sly tartan]

i never liked tiso

[subtle arch]

TISOOOOOOOOOO

[sly tartan]

he was arragant

[dull lion]

me too he was a joke character

[sly tartan]

or wtv

[tired mountain]

Tiso was the goat

[subtle arch]

I just imagine a lot of hollow knight characters would look up to Zote

[sly tartan]

cap

crushed by a brooding mawlek 😂

[dull lion]

tiso got the silksong chef boss treatment (i forgot the name)

[tired mountain]

Anyone would die

[subtle arch]

SPOILERS, IMMEDIATE EXECUTION

[sly tartan]

no

not the knight

[subtle arch]

The knight wouldn’t, Zote wouldn’t

[dull lion]

SUPER F

[sly tartan]

the knight is GOATED

[sly tartan]

zote the mighty yea zote would tho

[subtle arch]

Tiso tried to radiant brooding mawlek

[tired mountain]

No

[sly tartan]

whats radiant

[tired mountain]

Zote wouldnt die

[sly tartan]

yes

[sly tartan]

zote would

[dull lion]

god home typa thing

[tired mountain]

Yes zote would beat brooding mawlek

[sly tartan]

💔

[sly tartan]

oh

[subtle arch]

It’s obvious you’ve never actually encountered zote

[dull lion]

no one judges his life ender sword

[sly tartan]

i saved him in uhh

the vengfly guy

big oe

[subtle arch]

And what about in deepnest?

[dull lion]

did you save him in deepnest

[sly tartan]

saw him but didnt be bothered to save

cpuldnt*

omd

couldnt

[dull lion]

there was secret floor to the left on the room above

to rescue zote

[sly tartan]

IM NOT GOING TO DEEPNEST

EVER

AGAIN

[dull lion]

did you save bretta

[sly tartan]

yea

why

no cheating allowed in my christian minecraft server

[sick mica]

i

[dull lion]

zote gonna steal bretta from you if you save him

[sly tartan]

exactly

[dull lion]

let zote rot in deepnest

[sick mica]

am the the mighty eye

[sly tartan]

yes

[subtle arch]

But literally most sentient non infected would look up to zote, tiso would look up to zote as a great warrior, cloth would look up to how brave zote is, Quirrel would ask zote about his stories, literally zote is the greatest

[sly tartan]

right this fatty has been giggling for 5 mins now how do i kill him

[subtle arch]

Mighty eye, you are very mighty

[subtle arch]

Which one

[sly tartan]

would crack 10/10

[sly tartan]

grubfather

[dull lion]

ayo

[subtle arch]

You can’t

[sly tartan]

what other laughing fattys are there

[sick mica]

i am very mighty for i am the mighty eye

[subtle arch]

Salubra

[sly tartan]

smash

[dull lion]

and my friend joe

[subtle arch]

Mighty eye, who is your body

[subtle arch]

The grubs are inside of him btw

[sick mica]

my body' is zote the mighty

[sly tartan]

i said that to salubra

NOT grubfather

i hate grubfather

forveee

i hear the grubs

grrrr

[quasi forge]

whats a gurb

[subtle arch]

Glorious eye, I shall list a precept

[quasi forge]

gurb

[sly tartan]

[sick mica]

yes

[quasi forge]

surely nobody says 'grub' anymore

[dull lion]

gurb

[quasi forge]

gurb is simply better

[dull lion]

grob

[sly tartan]

i do

[subtle arch]

Precept Fourteen: 'Respect Your Superiors'. If someone is your superior in strength or intellect or both, you need to show them your respect. Don't ignore them or laugh at them.
I respect you for you are superior

[sly tartan]

gurb too annoying to say

grub is cool

[calm ginkgo]

im at the last 4 bosses on p5 im lowkey so nervous 😭

[sick mica]

i know

[quasi forge]

smh

[dull lion]

you can do it

[subtle arch]

Wise words, Wise words

[sly tartan]

i wish u luck

[calm ginkgo]

i wasn't expecting to get past gpz

[sly tartan]

no u dont

u see

[sick mica]

for i am the mighty eye

[sly tartan]

ey

[dull lion]

the mighty ey of rah

[subtle arch]

Precept Nineteen: 'If You Try, Succeed'. If you're going to attempt something, make sure you achieve it. If you do not succeed, then you have actually failed! Avoid this at all costs.

[sly tartan]

very mighty of u ey

[sly tartan]

ey of rah*

[sick mica]

check again, it says mighty eye

[sly tartan]

my bad

[sick mica]

i wouldnt make a mistake, for i am the mighty eye

[dull lion]

you laugh you go to 2-3 years Dagestan and forget

[subtle arch]

True words, the mighty eye follows precept 43 by not forgiving

[sly tartan]

yes

[calm ginkgo]

last 3 bosses,,
and its the 3 i don't do very well with

[sly tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/dagestan-gif-7781544151031729909

[dull lion]

which boss is it

[calm ginkgo]

well radiance is fine but ive not fought absrad before

[subtle arch]

Not kg

[sly tartan]

ho do i beat

kh

kh

kg

[dull lion]

kilograms

[subtle arch]

Remove weight or become uh, American or something idk

[calm ginkgo]

im about to go onto nkg
which i suppose is okay but it's like at the end of the big pantheon

[sly tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/wojak-brainlet-microwave-smoke-dumb-gif-3026155548321433372

[dull lion]

nkg is easier in godhome dw

[sick mica]

i shall be told where shade cloak is

[sly tartan]

how do i beat

him

[dull lion]

lil ghost took it already

[sly tartan]

king grimm

how bet

[subtle arch]

Yes, it is in the abyss, where darkness resides

[sly tartan]

:(

[dull lion]

no quick slash but unbreakable strenght

and 100% patterns

[subtle arch]

Just don’t dream

[dull lion]

dream no more

[sly tartan]

[sick mica]

the darkness shall cower, when faced by the mighty eye

[subtle arch]

Precept Eighteen: 'Seek Truth in the Darkness'.

[sick mica]

recite this precept

[subtle arch]

Seek truth in darkness, this is precept explains itself

[sick mica]

i was merely testing your knowledge of the precepts

[calm ginkgo]

im past grimm im so glad there's a bench

[sick mica]

the mighty eye would never make a mistake like that

[opaque citrus]

SALUBRA GIVES ME SOUL?

holy moly

thats actually so useful

[dull lion]

the divine kiss

[sick mica]

first playthrough...

[warm aspen]

LETS FUCKING GOOO

[sick mica]

do you follow the precepts

[dull lion]

W W W W

[opaque citrus]

wuh

[warm aspen]

I'M FINALLY DONE

GGS

[opaque citrus]

okay uhh

im about to try pantheons

[warm aspen]

deleting this fuckass game

get me OUTTR

[dull lion]

now do silksong hall of gods dlc

[warm aspen]

Do I put radhog in my bio and my dating profile now?

[opaque citrus]

absaolutely

[warm aspen]

Sea of Sorrow tomorrow

[opaque citrus]

oh no here is starts..

seaposting

[warm aspen]

Sorrowposting

[dull lion]

sea of thieves x silksong

[opaque citrus]

seasong

[dull lion]

seasalt

[opaque citrus]

yummers

[dull lion]

chizaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[opaque citrus]

okay i guess im about to go to p1

any charm recommendations

[tidal jewel]

The big 5

Or spell nerd

[opaque citrus]

huh

[sick mica]

i am the mighty eye

[tidal jewel]

Quick slash unbreakable strength

[opaque citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/uuh-cat-uuh-cat-huh-cat-huh-gif-7443402051303221120

[light snow]

p1 is piss easy go in only using defenders crest

[opaque citrus]

haha maybe

[normal cave]

[spice lark]

what charms do others actually use im trying p5 with unbreakable strenght steady body quick slash mark of pride and sprintmaster

[tidal jewel]

Just use spell twister shaman stone soul eater quick slash

[tidal jewel]

Shamans ig

[opaque citrus]

so overcharm

[warm aspen]

Strength, quickslash, Shaman stone and spell twister

[tidal jewel]

Wait

[warm aspen]

The goat

[light snow]

or the physical alternative is fragile/unb. strength, quickslash, sharpshadow and grubsong

[warm aspen]

No

[spice lark]

i dont have enough brain activity to use spells effectively

[sick mica]

[warm aspen]

Strength, quick slash, shaman stone and soul twister is THE build

[warm aspen]

grubsong?? 😭

[tidal jewel]

Press the b or circle button

[light snow]

your face is the tank my friend...

[tidal jewel]

[distant lagoon]

CONGRATS!!!!

[opaque citrus]

why is this closed
and why is this open

[tidal jewel]

I mean you’re bound to get hit right

[sturdy galleon]

i recommend soul catcher instead of spell twister. while spell twister seems like a bigger buff, the fact that it doesnt apply to healing negates that bonus in practically all scenarios where you heal.

[tidal jewel]

Beat the bosses

[warm aspen]

You haven't beaten hive yet?

[opaque citrus]

who is this fluffy thing

[opaque citrus]

i have

[warm aspen]

That's hive knight though

Have you not beaten hive knight?

[tidal jewel]

Hive knight

[opaque citrus]

i slimed his ass

[sturdy galleon]

massive moss charger in greenpath, to the left of no eyes.

[opaque citrus]

i literally have all the charms

[warm aspen]

clearly not 😨

[sturdy galleon]

that's in p1, it is not hive knight.

[warm aspen]

Nope, that's hive knight

[opaque citrus]

wait i didnt kill that

[tidal jewel]

It’s Mmc

[light snow]

it's moss charger

[warm aspen]

Oh wait that's p1?

[opaque citrus]

yes

[warm aspen]

Oh cuz the 2nd screen shot is sage

[opaque citrus]

and the third door is open somehow

[light snow]

vengefly king is there

[warm aspen]

That's massive moth charger

whoops my bad

[sturdy galleon]

you beat every required boss to unlock that pantheon.

[opaque citrus]

wowza

[opaque citrus]

why is your pfp giving

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-2922587064166244739

[calm ginkgo]

im at absolute radiance

this is my make or break

[tidal jewel]

What hollow knight ost should I learn on piano

[spice lark]

i always get railed by pure vessel i have made it to absolute radiance once but lost on pure vessel like 20 times which is all of my other attempts

[autumn dawn]

sisters of battle

[opaque citrus]

okay i guess i need to kill nosk and that moss thingy

[tidal jewel]

Dude

Get your nail to pure

NOW!

[opaque citrus]

welllll

[warm aspen]

you don't have pure nail upgrade?

[opaque citrus]

i need 1 more pale ore

[tidal jewel]

Yeah

Get it

[opaque citrus]

not yet

[calm ginkgo]

i fumbled

[tidal jewel]

From nosk

[opaque citrus]

its not so bad is it😭

[tidal jewel]

NOOOO

[opaque citrus]

wait its at nosk?

[tidal jewel]

Whole pantheon coming right up on the plate

[calm ginkgo]

whatever its my first time getting there idk what i was expecting😭

[tidal jewel]

Yep

[sturdy galleon]

third nail upgrade is 17 damage, fourth/final/pure nail upgrade is 21 damage.

[opaque citrus]

okay im beating that guy to death

[calm ginkgo]

i got to the second phase so im happy with myself and my best before that was uumuu so i fluked like half the pantheon😭

[tidal jewel]

I am scared for my life at absrad

[warm aspen]

that's wild

[tidal jewel]

It took me 2 days for nkg

[opaque citrus]

wanna see something funny

[last glacier]

2 DAYS ONLY?

[tidal jewel]

Grinding like the whole day

[last glacier]

it took me half a week to beat sly 😭

[last glacier]

oh

[tidal jewel]

Christmas break

[dull lion]

WHAT

[tidal jewel]

Gone now tho

[last glacier]

what?

[opaque citrus]

this is what i had when i got to thk😭

[last glacier]

dawg

thats too easy

[opaque citrus]

i was on like 25 hours already on the save

[last glacier]

you have wayward compass

[fluid sigil]

guys how do i beat markoth pls

[dull lion]

are you speed running

[last glacier]

thats the best charm in the game

[fluid sigil]

on ascended

[opaque citrus]

say my name

[spice lark]

my fist p5 run ended in pure vessel and since that i have tried like 20 times and gotten to abs rad once

[tidal jewel]

[dull lion]

Sandy

[opaque citrus]

Sandy (first playthrough)

[tidal jewel]

Use spell build

[wise marsh]

yo who here knows about limbus?

[calm ginkgo]

the attacks arent too different from radiance's it's just the nerve of being right at the end of the pantheon that throws you off

[dull lion]

your first playthrough and you only have these charms... 😭

[last glacier]

i hate you

[tidal jewel]

Hmmmm

Yes

[spice lark]

i have tried

[last glacier]

the only appropriate response would be "you're god damn right"

[opaque citrus]

thank yous

[spice lark]

is pure vessel easier with spells or not

[wise marsh]

this is making me cry

[opaque citrus]

i thought the game is just hard

[calm ginkgo]

well woohoo! now i get to fight absolute radiance whenever i want

[tidal jewel]

Yay

Practice makes perfect now practice

[wise marsh]

its easier if you land hits with any source of damage unless if its sporeshroom since that doesnt do damage

[tidal jewel]

I will do the pantheons today

[warm aspen]

Use shaman stone and spell twister, just nail him 16 times, wait until he does the shield spin and hit him as many times as you can

then dash out and spam either shade soul or abyss shriek

[fluid sigil]

ion even get that far man

[tidal jewel]

Markoth was made by the same developers of lotf 2014

[last glacier]

you mean this game?

probably the wrong chat

[wise marsh]

its almost related to the follow up message

[last glacier]

if you wanna talk about limbus swap to hk

[last glacier]

general

[last glacier]

yeah big bird is from lob corp not limbus my bad

[spice lark]

i will do one more p5 run tonight

with shaman

[solar light]

onto the big three in p5

[opaque citrus]

crow

[solar light]

just best failed champ

[last glacier]

no

[fluid sigil]

getting past markoth is imposbbile

[last glacier]

ball

[tidal jewel]

Oh no

[opaque citrus]

yes

[solar light]

i somehow survived 💀

[opaque citrus]

crowball

[tidal jewel]

It’s the man

[solar light]

this is my first time getting past sly in p5 btw

3rd p5 attempt

[last glacier]

big bird from lobotomy corpoation

[last glacier]

fuck

you gotta fight him?

shit

hardly beat him in p3

[opaque citrus]

shit indeed

wait what

[solar light]

every boss is in p5

[opaque citrus]

in p5 aswell?

[opaque citrus]

oh cool

[last glacier]

FUCK

[solar light]

and in their alternate ascended/radiant arenas if it changes

so markoth has no floor

[fluid sigil]

sly is ez

[solar light]

xero has no floor

[alpine ibex]

and he leads into GPZ

[solar light]

no eyes has spikes

[tepid stone]

Mantis lords are super easy

[solar light]

yep

[broken cobalt]

sly is easy if u train him hard

[solar light]

oh
you havent done p5 have you

[fluid sigil]

wdym hard man

he has like 4 attacks of which he only uses 2 anyways

[broken cobalt]

yea that is hella annoying

[solar light]

im still on pause about to just nkg

[alpine ibex]

Markoth into GPZ means you wont really have much health or soul for GPZ

[tepid stone]

Sisters of battle are what they are called, henceforth I classify that as a different boss
I have no trouble with two at the same time but I don't see how three would be super hard

[fluid sigil]

nkg ezzz

nkg hitless ezzz

[solar light]

i panicked during gpz and acciently wasted one of the staggers to heal

[fluid sigil]

markoth = bad

[broken cobalt]

yea i know but i died to him like 20 times till i beat him

[solar light]

ah ok

[last glacier]

FUCK markoth

[solar light]

ok imma fight nkg bai bai

[broken cobalt]

i beat him on attendet

[crisp willow]

Yo i found it

[broken cobalt]

but ascended nuh uh

[alpine ibex]

my P5 runs were quite nice, first try died at W nosk, but i wanted to train anyways. Then second all the way to absrad who destroyed me. 3rd after training absrad... Fucking No Eyes.
4th run i defeated absrad

despite my own best attempts at trying to fail in final phase

[fluid sigil]

how did you kill markoth

hes harder than pure vessel and nkg

[crisp willow]

Radiant version sure is

Both nkg and pv are easy to radthe reason is: you need to memorise these bosses to even beat them, so once memorized- tou have ajtomaticly higher chace of kaking a no hit run

[fluid sigil]

every version is 😭

except attuned

[solar light]

i beat nkg
7 masks
pure vessel gonna cook my ass

no soul

[alpine ibex]

Uh

you have rest stop

[solar light]

oh :D

ive never gotten this far in p5

i didnt know that

nice

[fluid sigil]

i cant even get markoth to 2nd phaseee

[solar light]

now i can get even more humilated by pv when i have full health

[alpine ibex]

great slash

[solar light]

shade soul and get soul when hes standing still doing the circle thing with his shield

[alpine ibex]

for that set of bosses, you can go with different charms

[fluid sigil]

was this good?

[tired mountain]

Grubsong gelps

[crisp willow]

In radiant?

[tired mountain]

Normally

[alpine ibex]

too panicked movement

[tired mountain]

Dunno abt radiant

[solar light]

(respectfully) this ping got me killed on pv

[fluid sigil]

pv lightwork mkan

[crisp willow]

?

[solar light]

perfect

[tired mountain]

U cannot facetank markoth

[solar light]

i just beat p4 like 3 days ago pv is still hard for me 😭

[fluid sigil]

whats facetank

[fluid sigil]

do him till u get ascended

[opaque citrus]

fuck dodging

[solar light]

keep running into him nonstop with no real plan

[tired mountain]

Blindly go attack boss without defending yohrself

[crisp willow]

Taking damage for the benefit of i frames

[solar light]

ill try..

[fluid sigil]

ah

[solar light]

]

that ping in the clip was you @fluid sigil btw

[fluid sigil]

why r u healing mid fight 😭

[tired mountain]

Jump over the boss

Bro

[fluid sigil]

this was NOT my fault man 😭

[tired mountain]

U can heal in stagger and in orb spawn

[crisp willow]

Lets not mock them

Difficulty is subjective for everyonev

[tired mountain]

No

[fluid sigil]

im not mocking

[autumn dawn]

Expecially newer or lesser expirianced players

[fluid sigil]

i cant get past markoth

[tired mountain]

Some things are objectivelity difficult

[fluid sigil]

like moc

[autumn dawn]

rn i can no hit pv every time but ik there was a time where it felt impossible to even win so yeah difficulty is subjective

[crisp willow]

Difficult is still subjective to aj extend, and regardless of this, it is not to talj mockingly to someone becayse they strugle with something that you find to be do-able/easy

[tired mountain]

No one mocking

Bro fighting ghosts

[autumn dawn]

and if this player is new or less expirianed they may have just not had the time to learn the boss and its paterns or functions

[queen nimbus]

omg thank you this was driving me insane. i can sleep peacefully tonight

[crisp willow]

Lmao

[solar light]

i healed during the stagger

[tired mountain]

U gotta jump over the boss

Dashing thru pv is a mistake

[solar light]

you can get through with shade cloak

which is how i practiced it for p4

[tired mountain]

Without quickfocus second heal is very risky

[fluid sigil]

except u got shade cloak

[sturdy galleon]

dashing through pure vessel is fine, but its recommended to jump over and pogo it. dashing away is rarely ever helpful.

[tired mountain]

Yes but he can do another attack right after and u get hit

[solar light]

not always

[tired mountain]

Dashing into the guy is risky he attacks u right after

[tired mountain]

Almost always

[fluid sigil]

then dash again

[tired mountain]

2 masks per hit do u wanna risk it

[fluid sigil]

[tired mountain]

U cannot spam dash and win every boss

[fluid sigil]

i can

[solar light]

btw is this charmset good for p5

[tired mountain]

Ur shadecloak regens in a certain time if u spam it the knight does a normal dash leading u to get hit

[sturdy galleon]

the amount you heal on average from greeding a second heal after pure vessel stagger is less than if you heal once because you often get hit after the second heal.

[crisp willow]

Yes

[fluid sigil]

mine doesnt

[tired mountain]

Yes

[solar light]

alr cool

[tired mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/jolly-i-guess-bro-winter-santa-i-guess-gif-14688751847634210644

[autumn dawn]

Dashing through pv is a good tactic in my oppinion so long as you do it at the right times

[crisp willow]

Maybe change grubsong to dreamwielder before fighting NKG/PV/Absrad

[opaque citrus]

wait so i have to kill all of the bosses needed for a pantheon and then i fight the same ones in the pantheon?

[tired mountain]

Yes but its rare that happens

[autumn dawn]

one of the best

[solar light]

dreamweilder aint that necessary

[autumn dawn]

not really

[crisp willow]

Yes, and then there is a finale boss at the ejd of each lantheon

[alpine ibex]

bruh no to dreamwielder

[tired mountain]

Some get diff arenas and diff attacks

[autumn dawn]

If i had my metal linked up to my laptop id send you a clip of me doing it

[alpine ibex]

its literally useless on those final bosses

[fluid sigil]

are u fr

[autumn dawn]

i dash through him like 2-3 times per fight

[opaque citrus]

yeah that makes sense

[crisp willow]

It is a good source of soul in PV and rad fight

[tired mountain]

U can do it but it is rarely where dashing through him is good u just got lucly

[sturdy galleon]

i have no clue why you would dreamnail any of those bosses. nailmasters glory is a fine alternative though.

[alpine ibex]

Wrong

dont listen to that advice

[autumn dawn]

XDDDDD

LUCKY XD

[crisp willow]

Elaborate

[tired mountain]

Yep

[autumn dawn]

Then i get lucky every time i no hit him Lol

[alpine ibex]

You literally cant dreamnail PV

[autumn dawn]

Which is every time

[tired mountain]

I guess bro

[alpine ibex]

And absrad flies around

[crisp willow]

Staggers?

[light snow]

dream wielder is my comfort charm it's like only 1 notch and has such a nice effect but it's almost completely useless realistically

[tired mountain]

Dashing through him every time will get you killed

[autumn dawn]

No its called you dont know what your talking abt

[alpine ibex]

No, he literally cant be dream nailed, you get nothing

[autumn dawn]

I never said every time

I said when appropriate

[tired mountain]

Its rarely you can bro

[autumn dawn]

for example if he parrys you dash

[autumn dawn]

no actually its alot

[fluid sigil]

u always can man

[tired mountain]

This is like saying how come russian roulette is dangerous it didnt kill me

[autumn dawn]

2-3 times per fight assuming fights are 30-40 seconds

[light snow]

wdym dashing through pv is how i do half my damage when fighting it

[sturdy galleon]

you're funny.

[autumn dawn]

Exept its not a gamle its a calculated move

[cinder jackal]

no sorry

[tired mountain]

I guess bro

[crisp willow]

With dreamwielder dream nailing takes 0.9 seconds, and gives enough soul to cast/heal

I do not see any reason to not use it- sure there is a alt like NMG, but DW still gives good benefits

[tired mountain]

No

[solar light]

pv has no dreamnail lines?
i mean it makes sense canonically but that was a surprise to me

[noble ruin]

Is there a reason why you hate me so much and never do anything I ask smh

[fluid sigil]

wait

[sturdy galleon]

doesn't give you soul, either.

[crisp willow]

i did not know that- sorru

[light snow]

there ISNT anything to dream nail

[opaque citrus]

wait i have all pantheons unlocked before the 2nd one😭

[alpine ibex]

also, absrad is way too tight to try and dreamnail her

[solar light]

oh..
i thought it was lmao

[crisp willow]

Second phase-?

[alpine ibex]

... spike floor phase?

[tired mountain]

U dont need to either

[alpine ibex]

Wat

[crisp willow]

No, the platform one

[sturdy galleon]

platforms phase can be dreamnailed but there is no reason to do that instead of hitting her.

[alpine ibex]

Thats 4th

[autumn dawn]

no need to dreamnail abstrad

[alpine ibex]

Also for one dreamnail, you can hit her 3 times

[crisp willow]

Arent the spike and sword rain ones sub phases?

[tired mountain]

Only time i remember dreamnail being useful is in coloseum and in failed champ xheese

[autumn dawn]

you can use it on base grimm and a few other bosses too

[tired mountain]

Not that useful

[autumn dawn]

like hive knight not that any1 would rlly need to

Like who tf be usin dream nail on fucking hiveknight 😭

But its possible

[autumn dawn]

dream nail isnt that usefull on most bosses but its good for base game and huge for ummu

[tired mountain]

Its possible to dream nail almost every boss

[autumn dawn]

true just useless or rlly hard for most

[solar light]

hm...
i got to the void tendril phase of pv on ascended
new best

[autumn dawn]

thats good youll be able to radient it soon at this point

[tired mountain]

Just dont dash thru him every time

[sturdy galleon]

it's subjective, but generally every arena change is considered an individual phase.

[solar light]

yeah im jumping over a few times now

[autumn dawn]

Do whatever works for you

[distant lagoon]

MWUJHAHAA

[autumn dawn]

pogo when you do so

[crisp willow]

Thank you for explaning these things :3

[autumn dawn]

extra damadge

[crisp willow]

Yay.

[solar light]

alr

[solar light]

GOOD JOB

[sturdy galleon]

this results in 6 phases

1. initial
2. spike floor
3. sword rain
4. platforms
5. climb
6. final

[autumn dawn]

:)

[distant lagoon]

my favorite boss fight :3

[fluid sigil]

pls

[barren vault]

Just dash and hit

I like pure vessel

[distant lagoon]

you can also avoid his spikes by poggoing off his head

[autumn dawn]

Eh i prefer view it as four phases lol, Initial, platforms, climb,final, but i get why some say 6

[distant lagoon]

you will have to time it though

[solar light]

imagine being pv with just sharp shadow 😭

[tired mountain]

It is possible if u get lucky

[fluid sigil]

i did not get lucky 😭

[zinc iris]

Sharp shadow user?

[tired mountain]

He left u alone after triple slash every time

[crisp willow]

Not uncommon

[fluid sigil]

whats he supposed to do after triple slash

[tired mountain]

Sharp shadow is bad

[fluid sigil]

till he attacks again i just dash again

[tired mountain]

Lunge or lunge into triple slash

[tired mountain]

Not how it works

[fluid sigil]

do i need another video

[crisp willow]

Kur why ya si immensly against sharp shadow

Like

Let people have fun

[sturdy galleon]

i find it more consistent to view it this way because any similar change on any other boss would be viewed as a phase change.

[tired mountain]

Its just worse than charmless

[crisp willow]

There is not a correct way to beat a boss-? Even agony works in niche cases

[crisp willow]

Also wrong imo

[tired mountain]

Bro idgaf what people do its just a recommendation they can use dreamshield for all i care

[fluid sigil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n_Ut-Kne3A

[crisp willow]

Sharshadow works for most bosses than it does not

[tired mountain]

U can also beat sob with only nail but it doesnt mean they cant telefrag to you

[sturdy galleon]

sharp shadow is fine. its tends to be harmful, but you can get used to it and make it work. in general it is perceived as a waste of notches more than a negative debuff.

[tired mountain]

It makes u play worse

[fluid sigil]

whos sob

[crisp willow]

Waste of notches, sure, but it is not "worse than charmless"

[solar light]

pure vessel with only indirect damage
swarm charms, spore shroom, defenders crest, dreamshield and thorns of agony are the only charms allowed
no nail hits or spells

[knotty ravine]

yea sshadow is just like mid tier

at least its kinda nice with dmaster but thats bc dmaster is good

[sturdy galleon]

it'd be like if every new player was convinced stalwart shell was broken. you can make it work just fine, but 95% of the time there are several more useful options.

[sturdy galleon]

mhm.

[knotty ravine]

ily sshadow downdash

[tired mountain]

In your video pv doesnt parry you after lunge or triple slash

[fluid sigil]

look the yt video then

[crisp willow]

Sshadow down dash slash with nmg

:3

[tired mountain]

Cherry picked example

[sturdy galleon]

this does not achieve anything unless you want to be funny in multiplayer pvp.

[fluid sigil]

so he just got extremely lucky?

[knotty ravine]

aight lets not bring back sshadow ddslash

[crisp willow]

No shit sherlock

[crisp willow]

Fiiiine

[knotty ravine]

that shit was kinda broken for .1 in spellless pvp when i was pushing those charms

and then spells were introduced and pvp fucking exploded

[tired mountain]

I literally opened up pv got met with parries to my shit with sharp shadow you have to play very very slow

[sturdy galleon]

downdashslash in general is powerful.

[tired mountain]

You can also facetank gpz but its not recommended ur argument doesnt make sense at all

[sturdy galleon]

when you run 1 damage white spells, it isnt so bad.

[crisp willow]

Cyclone slash can be strong too now i randomly thought about iy

In nail bind runs

For example

[fluid sigil]

ur seeing ghosts man

[crisp willow]

I have random thoughts

Doesnt mean anything

[fluid sigil]

not u

[sturdy galleon]

cyclone slash is useful. why are you saying this.

[tired mountain]

Do radiant pv and record then with just dashes

[crisp willow]

It is risky to use no?

[fluid sigil]

why would i do that to mysel

there is already a yt video

[tired mountain]

Cuz its not fucking viable bro you being able to risk getting damage every time doesnt make it good

Its just rng u can get met with 5 consecutive triple or lunge parries and u just die

[sturdy galleon]

sometimes more than others. its useful to fall slowly while getting damage, as a less effective air stall. when grounded, you can get it off practically whenever if you know the boss pattern.

[fluid sigil]

i mean theres the option of dashing away

[tired mountain]

Dashing away from what ?

The parry

[fluid sigil]

if he parries just dont hit him

[tired mountain]

Not how it works bri

[fluid sigil]

??

[unborn willow]

Yes it is

[fluid sigil]

😭

[tired mountain]

You want to deal damage to him if you do one nail damage per 5 minutes then sure

Parries are instant and its better to just facetank it in your situation

[unborn willow]

Theres a little animation of the block before the pary goes into affect, you can just wait like 1.5 seconds to let it pass

[fluid sigil]

just hit him after the parry ends

[tired mountain]

Yeah no shit but this is not a good option

Sure u can do great slash every time and run away from him too but it just raises your chances of getting it

[sturdy galleon]

what the fuck are you arguing.

[unborn willow]

Yes it is, its just reaction time, on top of the animation, theres a little ping sound effect before the animation so you can easily figure when to stop, dash jump and start wailing

[tired mountain]

Parry is instant to any time hitting him after lunge and triple slash is gone leaves u with pillars in the first phase and the ranged attack he has

[zinc iris]

Sharp shadow ig

[tired mountain]

Hes saying dashing thru pv every time is good and u dont get hit ever by doing it

[tired mountain]

Nope

[unborn willow]

You literally dont get hit at all, you just have ass reaction time

[tired mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[sturdy galleon]

i dont recommend it but it works just fine.

[tired mountain]

It leaves u with 2 attacks if u dont want to get damaged in first phase

2 attacks that you can attack pv in

Without risking it

[wet igloo]

The Hornet

[unborn willow]

Ho ho ho... now

[tired mountain]

Bro record me a video of you beating pv in rad with just dashes

[subtle phoenix]

im fighting pure vessel rn

[tired mountain]

I want to see that crazy reaction time you have

[subtle phoenix]

any tips

[zinc iris]

U can't do that without sharp shadow

[tired mountain]

They say they can

[zinc iris]

U don't do damage

If u strictly mean only dashes

[tired mountain]

U can beat him but u gotta attack in like 2 attacks only to beat him

[sudden nest]

Anyone know how to get in choral chambers from the scales room

[tired mountain]

Yes strictly dashes

[subtle phoenix]

wrong game channel i think

#sk-discussion

[zinc iris]

His does this do damage

[sudden nest]

Ah

[zinc iris]

How*

[tired mountain]

Just a little damage every tjme

Or u gotta risk getting parried

[zinc iris]

Use shade cloak mainly for daggers and parry

For the triple slash either double jump over him or pogo/parry his nail

[wet igloo]

You will pogo alot. But mainly don't get greedy with your attacks/heals

[zinc iris]

For the lunge just jump over

[tired mountain]

Getting all pets and just dodging the attacks is more viable bro

Then the only dash

[zinc iris]

And go practice in hall of god's a lot

[sturdy galleon]

i honestly have no clue what youre arguing about but here is pure vessel with sharp shadow.

[tired mountain]

We arent talking about sharp shadow

[keen thorn]

herb

[zinc iris]

Hello gl on ur class stuff today

[crisp willow]

Gl genio

:3

[subtle phoenix]

oh good idea to start hitting when he does that focus attack

thanks for that

[tired mountain]

@unborn willow yo bro wheres that only dash video

[sturdy galleon]

here's the boss charmless, then.

[tired mountain]

We werent talking about this either bro

[alpine ibex]

light/sword wall and then absrad teleporting on your platform to do a beams/sword attack is a nasty combo, especially if you just dodged the walls

[zinc iris]

Is this radiant btw

His hp

[sturdy galleon]

yes.

[zinc iris]

Seems rlly high

Ah ok

[alpine ibex]

still trying rad absrad

[sturdy galleon]

you'll like to keep 1-2 casts of soul available at any time minimum so you can dive in situations like this.

[alpine ibex]

had just dived for the second sword wall and she casts swords

[sturdy galleon]

sometimes you need to dive, dash away, and then dive again

[crisp willow]

Greetings

i bored

[sturdy galleon]

hello.

[crisp willow]

Hru muzzle

[sturdy galleon]

im fine. practicing some absolute radiance strats. how are you?

[crisp willow]

I be good- hope u achive ya goals in absrad :3

[sturdy galleon]

it'll probably take a few days. nail only absrad with additional challenges can get inconsistent.

[crisp willow]

Ow

Well goodluck

[sturdy galleon]

thank you.

[subtle phoenix]

ok i just beat radiant grimm first try

cool

everything except practicing pure vessel

[crisp willow]

well done

[vestal tusk]

LET'S GO I JUST BEAT PANTHEON 4

[loud bridge]

gg

[vestal tusk]

How do you start pantheon 5

[subtle glacier]

hit the thing on the roof of p4 and then climb

[vestal tusk]

This is all it shows for me

Alright got it

Thanks

Nvm I don't

I don't know what to do here 😭

[keen thorn]

Ty!! I acutally got everything I wanted

[keen thorn]

gonna chill now with some hk

gonna hop on the pantheon in a bit

[vestal tusk]

Thanks

[vestal tusk]

Send me the link of that skin it looks peak

[broken spade]

do I hear evangalion in the back 🤔

[sturdy galleon]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sjhtHCQzZASxMouF5cZ9lb8CyrpsfZ8S

[sturdy galleon]

mhm.

[broken spade]

oh it's rei

[subtle glacier]

the bad ending

[crisp willow]

huh

[subtle glacier]

genio did you see my grubs

[keen thorn]

no

[subtle glacier]

wrong recording shit

[vestal tusk]

appreciate it

[lone oracle]

ez boss
-# silksong, i will never speak in #sk-discussion for more than 5 minutes

-# i died seconds later

[subtle glacier]

brought it down from like 30xx to 28.2

very satisfied

[lone oracle]

#sk-discussion is stinky

[subtle phoenix]

never been in it because i dont wana be spoilered about silksong lol

i will infact be camping in #sk-help

#sk-help-2

oh archived

[sly tartan]

can anyone help me me on hive knight cus hk help is no help

[sturdy galleon]

what are you struggling with?

[delicate marsh]

i did the thing

[exotic path]

hello i'm relatively new to this game

[autumn ice]

i saw that 3 hit that was kinda crazy

[cunning bridge]

Congrats man

[subtle phoenix]

congratulations

[spiral vault]

https://tenor.com/view/bowser-mario-galaxy-mario-galaxy-movie-mario-movie-mario-gif-11462145120189186609

[autumn ice]

surely not a fluke

[delicate marsh]

tyty

i uh

i think i'm too far gone

but it's ok

[cunning bridge]

Which did you find the hardest to radiant

[delicate marsh]

well

there were hard and unfun

radiance was the hardest

but fun

[subtle phoenix]

lmao i keep dashing into pv right before he does his soul attack and i keep getting hit

[delicate marsh]

markoth

[subtle phoenix]

need to keep my distance 💔

[delicate marsh]

i loathe

with a passion

[cunning bridge]

Markoth is horrible

The arena makes it 10x worse

[delicate marsh]

easily the worst boss imo

[sly tartan]

eveyrthing

[subtle phoenix]

p4 will be so fun

[delicate marsh]

simply not fun

[lusty fiber]

radkoth is pretty fun imo

at least it's not stupid bullshit like

[keen thorn]

so smooth

[lusty fiber]

marmu...

[keen thorn]

what's it for

[cunning bridge]

In what way?

[sly tartan]

[sturdy galleon]

what charms do you have?

[keen thorn]

it was way too crazy

[cunning bridge]

I didnt find him that bad tbh

[delicate marsh]

i mean marmu is whatever

it's eh

[sly tartan]

all except the kibgs palace one and the one u get before hive knight

[sturdy galleon]

what is the overall gear loadout

[delicate marsh]

any particular thing you're trying to do?

[sly tartan]

idk i used quickslash,shaman and strength

[sly tartan]

get all chamrs

the.

then

beat game

[delicate marsh]

ohoh i sea

hive knight

[sturdy galleon]

do you have all abilities?

[sly tartan]

yeas

[sly tartan]

yes

i tried spamming dd

[delicate marsh]

well then

[sly tartan]

but died

[delicate marsh]

shade cloak

is

good

dash through like

all his attacks

[sly tartan]

so what charms as well

[delicate marsh]

they're all countered by it

[sly tartan]

so maybe sharp shadow?

[delicate marsh]

that would work

[lusty fiber]

don't use sharp shadow

[subtle phoenix]

1 hp 😭

[lusty fiber]

sharp shadow is dogshit

[sly tartan]

[delicate marsh]

i mean yea...

it's not great

[sly tartan]

calm down mate

[delicate marsh]

i don't rlly care all that much abt charms ngl

[lusty fiber]

I'm perfectly calm

[delicate marsh]

i just kinda

do

[sly tartan]

[subtle phoenix]

we so goated

[delicate marsh]

oh yeah

peak type shit

[sly tartan]

are bosses harder in pantheons

or the same

[delicate marsh]

generally yeah

specifically pantheon 5

makes

stuff worse

for the lols

[lusty fiber]

the pantheons use their attuned hp but in p5 they use ascended arenas

[subtle phoenix]

p5 makes arenas ascended but 1 damage

and hp

[sly tartan]

yo bro

u can change ur name now

[subtle phoenix]

once i get to silksong im switching to bad at sk

[sly tartan]

i meant good at hk but okay

[subtle phoenix]

i know

im still bad at this game

[delicate marsh]

see

being bad is a mindset

i still think i'm bad

it's all in the mental

nah

you got that

[sturdy galleon]

try a strategy like this, based around soul and dashing through the boss.

[delicate marsh]

such a silly guy

[sleek leaf]

That's one cool skin

[delicate marsh]

he makes funny noises

[sturdy galleon]

i tried to make it as simple as possible and got hit from trying not to jump, lol.

[delicate marsh]

honestly

jumping for hive knight not meta

[subtle phoenix]

aka just dash through every swing attack and spam nail when he does any other attack

thats what i did in p3 atleast

[sly tartan]

WHAT is void heart

[delicate marsh]

i mean i do

but that's not important

[delicate marsh]

later game thing

for story reasons

not important

[sturdy galleon]

thats not important, it has no combat effect

[sly tartan]

dont u get it after beating traitor lord

[delicate marsh]

kinda

yes but no

[sturdy galleon]

a while after

[remote ocean]

Why is zot

[delicate marsh]

traitor lord gives you a piece of it

like a voided version?

that'd be kinda cool

i think mods handle that well enough tho

[earnest apex]

[delicate marsh]

hmmm

[subtle phoenix]

uh ima go practice pv some more and go to bed

i got school tomorrow

[rotund osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/happybirthday-gif-27683560

[subtle phoenix]

and a test 💔

[delicate marsh]

[sly tartan]

[earnest apex]

On Jan 6th or Jan 7th?

[rotund osprey]

7th

[sly tartan]

[earnest apex]

Congrats :D

[rotund osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6-7-six-seven-sixty-seven-scp-gif-3295527985440468649

[rotund osprey]

67

[rotund osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/scp-067-67-6-7-six-seven-sixty-seven-gif-13940852437921483111

[subtle phoenix]

i require concrete proof

[dapper mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-grimm-grimm-hollow-knight-chicken-sandwich-gif-12915868752568379252

[sly tartan]

what

[dapper mortar]

MINE

[sly tartan]

[dapper mortar]

Gimmie

[sly tartan]

lmao

[dapper mortar]

:(

But chimken :(

[delicate marsh]

mmm

[earnest apex]

[delicate marsh]

chimpkin

[subtle phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-dance-hollow-knight-hornet-gif-13339899042600380709

[sly tartan]

sum slight sum slight

[earnest apex]

The Hollow Knight character is a piece of cake

[delicate marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-hollow-knight-breakdance-gif-4991443249772973911

[dapper mortar]

What

[delicate marsh]

my lil guy

[subtle glacier]

i was timing which grub was faster to get first, and it came down to a matter of like 1.5s

[sly tartan]

choom

[subtle glacier]

it was something i was curious about for a while

[earnest apex]

choombert

[sly tartan]

choom

[analog pilot]

I wonder how much immunity time I had left

[sly tartan]

You what

i saw that

[fluid sigil]

🥹

[sly tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/catstare-gif-8960785107294365444

[median sequoia]

for some reason the area to the left of massive moss charger is like my #1 earlygame steel soul run ender

[subtle phoenix]

i love when i fall on pure vessels ass when i stagger him and then i fucking die

😎

[delicate marsh]

yeah he's a big "careful in the air" boss

[subtle phoenix]

atlest im getting kinda consistent with it

then ill fuck it all up

[quasi mist]

chat i beat hollow knight

[sly tartan]

@sturdy galleon I beat him 2nd try!!

i didnt know he had only twi phases

or thingies

breath cathers

or wtv

[sly tartan]

did you also drink gasoline

[sturdy galleon]

good job.

[sturdy galleon]

i believe those are simply rare attacks, not based on hp.

[sly tartan]

no like where he falls

[quasi mist]

yeah

[sly tartan]

fire

or i guess not

[quasi mist]

ikr

[sly tartan]

dont want u to explode

[quasi mist]

nah dw ive had worse

[sly tartan]

[quasi mist]

coming out is worse that going in

[sly tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/988622052003045376/1454667897044729917/togif.gif

[quasi mist]

lowk should get silksong now

[quasi mist]

lol

[sly tartan]

its ez

played it before hk

[quasi mist]

ok

wow

[sly tartan]

didnt know what hk was

[quasi mist]

lol

[sly tartan]

but didnt beat it cus found out what hk was

so

[quasi mist]

ah ok

[sturdy galleon]

oh, those are based on hit count rather than health as well.

[sly tartan]

oh fr?

[crisp willow]

My queerass thought this meant coming out as a trans person

[sly tartan]

ty

[crisp willow]

Hello chat

[sly tartan]

[sly tartan]

goodbye chat

[crisp willow]

Why so

[uncut slate]

going in Now means bringing your trans identity back into hiding

[crisp willow]

Yup.

[sturdy galleon]

maybe it does get semi-consistent.

[bold turret]

is that with invincibility to practice, or actually just staying in the middle of the sword burst without shriek?

[sturdy galleon]

no invincibility. i can clip it with me getting hit to the next one, if you'd like.

[bold turret]

dw, i trust you, that's super cool !

[sturdy galleon]

thanks.

[opal hearth]

i understand absolutely nothing

[wind garnet]

it does

[wind garnet]

you can stay in the middle but it seems they used a mod to force only sword burst

[sturdy galleon]

lovely clip, but that's not what i was displaying.

[wind garnet]

we dont really do sb face dancing

ive only seen the best do it consistently

i have like one clip doing it

[rigid token]

"blg mister mushroom"