hk-discussion

[red gale]

You can ddark i think to avoid the explosion

[loud oriole]

still doesnt change that radabsrad is relatively more rng based than other bosses

[ancient ravine]

i had no soul

[shrewd nymph]

Ddark

[scenic surge]

thats actually insane holy

[ancient ravine]

no soul

[worthy peak]

And all of my absrad deaths are me being stupid. With barely any rng influence

[scenic surge]

might as well be overcharmed idek

[red gale]

What you waste it on? Healing?

[shrewd nymph]

And less than others.. point is its negligible because every boss has rng and its not why you cant do it hitless

[forest wind]

All bosses for me

[loud oriole]

climbing phase is easy if you are good but even for the climb phase there is rng involved

[ancient ravine]

yes cuz i got to him with 7masks and he took 3or4

[red gale]

Overcharming is for babies

[shrewd nymph]

And pv is easy if he doesnt do his triple slash, its universal yet again

[ancient ravine]

imma practice gpz

[sonic panther]

is there new game+ in this game

[shrewd nymph]

nope

[loud oriole]

the triple slash is easy to parry why would that matter

[shrewd nymph]

And climb is also easy, theyre arbitrary terms

Its called comparisons

[forest wind]

Whoah so done pulled out a venn diagram

[worthy peak]

Steel soul I guess so... no. Mods can give you it probably

[shrewd nymph]

and if you're good at pv you dont parry his triple slash but eh

[onyx wigeon]

every boss is rng

[foggy sable]

absrad is the most rng boss for radiant clears

[onyx wigeon]

can we delete them

[foggy sable]

it is just possible to play around it

[loud oriole]

bro different playstyles exist

[shrewd nymph]

Still not a reasonable excuse

[red gale]

Gl. You'll discover that he's very easy to kill once you find all openings

[onyx wigeon]

let me bring up my boss tierlist

[ancient ravine]

I got him ascended idk how he killed me

[onyx wigeon]

[shrewd nymph]

Still objectively better to not parry it if you're good

[foggy sable]

I mean, it kinda is unless you are doing something like r5

[sonic panther]

ok so after I beat ||the hollow knight|| does my save go to before I beat him?

[onyx wigeon]

Sharp Shadow

[worthy peak]

Why?

[red gale]

Dw he gets me to for no reason

[red gale]

Yeah

[loud oriole]

i used to shade cloak thru and shade soul but it came with its own problem

like the cd not ending on time

[shrewd nymph]

If radtheon of absrad has been done, rng is not an excuse for consistently getting hit

[sonic panther]

ok ty

for telling

[shrewd nymph]

Quicker fight, more time on the ground. Its really minute though so not worth worrying abt

[foggy sable]

it is unless you want to do something like that though, just because it can be mitigated by being extremely good doesn't matter

[shrewd nymph]

I rarely see anyone do it reliably

[forest wind]

Do what?

[worthy peak]

Why is it faster to not parry?

[loud oriole]

yeh absrad is clearly way more luck based in comparision

[shrewd nymph]

Earlier i said its never solely or uniquely the issue, every boss has rng, you can mitigate it

[shrewd nymph]

Triple slash on pv parryless

[forest wind]

Because I do remember seeing some guy do the 3 parry consistently

[shrewd nymph]

Freeze frames when you parry

[forest wind]

Neglible ngl

[shrewd nymph]

Im aware

[forest wind]

Plus you get aura points for parrying

[loud oriole]

by lune's logic, all bosses are joke if you just dont get hit

[shrewd nymph]

i said it was minute

[forest wind]

I mean...

Not wrong

[shrewd nymph]

Holy strawman, let's emphasise some comprehensive skills

[worthy peak]

Wait. Can you hit PV and miss the parry hitbox with speed

[ancient ravine]

first try HOW DID HE GET ME IN P5

[loud oriole]

sounds real simple doesnt it

[forest wind]

It is simple

[shrewd nymph]

If you pogo late enough you just pogo on his head without parrying yeah

[forest wind]

Just get good, and the bosses are easy.

Simple as that

[red gale]

I feel like in p5 he just turns my brain off and that's why i die

[forest wind]

Not saying the process of getting good is easy though

[loud oriole]

i wonder if this mentality came after silksong released with the wave of "gitgud" comments

[shrewd nymph]

Goalposts shifted to the next field

Crying rng gets you no where btw

[worthy peak]

So with side slashes you could like hit quickly without parrying while above him then? Cool or else you would probably lose time falling.

[forest wind]

Nope, for me it really is just get good for all games

[shrewd nymph]

Its just not worth the difficulty though

[loud oriole]

why would i cry? ive already cleared all of hollow knight. im just sharing my experience from when i was playing.

[ancient ravine]

Sisters of battle "boring" maybe u misplaced them

[onyx wigeon]

Nah

[ancient ravine]

ehhh no spells no healing

[forest wind]

Try not to argue challenge Impossible:

[shrewd nymph]

You literally said the fight is just rng. Theres a fine line between 'sharing [your] experience' and being wrong. lol

[onyx wigeon]

not my fault TC copy pasted the same boss thrice

[forest wind]

Not to nitpick but it's her

[azure flare]

Crystal Guardian over hornet??

[onyx wigeon]

Yes

[forest wind]

Not to nitpick
Nitpicks

[loud oriole]

thats because it is "relatively" more rng based compared to other bosses in the game

[azure flare]

Crystal Guardian Has Like two attacks and they are the most Basic thing

[ancient ravine]

Sisters of battle

[shrewd nymph]

You said its all rng, that is not saying its **relatively more ** rng, hence why you were wrong

[worthy peak]

Okay I'm slightly confused. If you can't do the side slashes. Why wouldn't parrying be good. It's not hard to get them semi consistent and if I can do that. Better players could definitely parry consistently. Cause pogos lose time to falling don't they?

[loud oriole]

truly impossible to argue with a fool ngl

[red gale]

Sisters of battle are okay-ish. On radiant though I'd say is where they're the most enjoyable

[forest wind]

NGL my reading comprehension failed me

[red gale]

On normal they're kinda whatever

[shrewd nymph]

Ad hominem. Nice try bud

[misty umbra]

Yay i defeated gpzab for the second time

[onyx wigeon]

Stinky

[loud oriole]

lets just agree to disagree

[forest wind]

Bosses are fun where you have that rhythm if you know what I mean?

[loud oriole]

we have different opinions

[shrewd nymph]

Parrying is fine, the inconsistent bit is pogoing WITHOUT parrying the blade

[forest wind]

They attack, you dodge, you attack, they attack, repeat.

[shrewd nymph]

You're objectively wrong its not subjective

its not an opinion lmao

[forest wind]

Just pogo with a spell vro

[red gale]

Yeah

[loud oriole]

i already know this is ragebait

[worthy peak]

So is there a skill level where pogoing would be optimal?

[red gale]

Once you learn their openings it becomes way more fun

[shrewd nymph]

yes, it's theoretically better

[worthy peak]

You said way way easier

Btw

That's not just e
Relatively

[onyx wigeon]

NKG is boring tbh

[shrewd nymph]

If you understood the game you'd realise how ridiculous you sound

suit yourself

[loud oriole]

first of all, we are talking about radabsrad

[worthy peak]

You also said no rng in PV and NKG

[forest wind]

Wouldn't necessarily say that

[onyx trout]

🥀

[red gale]

Kinda bc he forces a passive playstyle

[onyx wigeon]

it's a waiting simulator mixed with a platformer

[loud oriole]

yes ive never died to bad rng while doing those on rad

[forest wind]

People just say "Ragebait" to everything and ironically, it's just Ragebait.

[shrewd nymph]

Guys changed his argument thrice now lmao

[onyx wigeon]

back in my day we called it trolling

[worthy peak]

Not the same as no rng

[weary skiff]

technically all bosses are rng in that their attack patterns are randomized, it's just that for e.g. absrad she's got a lot more situations overall compared to say PV or NKG

[onyx trout]

Exactly

[worthy peak]

You also can't know that rng didn't influence your death

[shrewd nymph]

Spot on, wait till this guy finds out what comparatively means

[onyx wigeon]

Ragebait

[loud oriole]

thats just me exagerrating it

[worthy peak]

If you get close to defeating PV and die near the end

[weary skiff]

rageslop

[onyx wigeon]

I prefer log bait

but cycle is too meta nowadays

thanks supercell

[worthy peak]

Well that's difficult to tell

[shrewd nymph]

[worthy peak]

And changes the basis of what you are saying

[loud oriole]

and i still abide by this

[wind garnet]

💀

[shrewd nymph]

And you're still wrong

[worthy peak]

Then it might be rng

[shrewd nymph]

Its not subjective

You can get consistent at radabsrad

[worthy peak]

No relatively there

[onyx wigeon]

Nuh uh

[wind garnet]

Rad abs was done 42 times in a row proving there is no rng factor that effects the outcome of the fight

[loud oriole]

ok

[shrewd nymph]

Theres rng in every fight.. all that rng is also negligible with full gear

[carmine lava]

something being rng purely because of difficulty is only possible once you get to an absolutely extreme amount of difficulty that radabsrad isn’t even close to

[wind garnet]

It’s okay to be bad at the game

[worthy peak]

Why is everyone exaggerating. It makes so many misunderstanding

[loud oriole]

negligible with full gear

[weary skiff]

I feel like all this just boils down to radabsrad just being a lot more difficult than radPV or radNKG

[zealous skiff]

*it wasn't 42 times in a row then teano (i assume teano) died its 42 times in a row then stopping

[shrewd nymph]

Want me to say it louder?

[loud oriole]

what are you trying to imply by full gear

[wind garnet]

Ok but like 1% of players probably less make it to abs rad without full gear

[carmine lava]

i think he got 43 actually which is kinda funny

[worthy peak]

Luck based means most important factor

[onyx wigeon]

bro invented teleportation with how the goalposts kept moving

[foggy sable]

am I misunderstanding something or is the reading comprehension here negligible

[shrewd nymph]

Well without things like ddark and shade dash they arent always possible with 100% consistency

[onyx wigeon]

what reading

[shrewd nymph]

Hence full gear

[forest wind]

Even I don't knoe

[worthy peak]

I mean missing a mask and charm notch isn't hard

[weary skiff]

aka just the internet in general really

[worthy peak]

But those aren't important

Here

[onyx wigeon]

we need to go back to classics tbh

[foggy sable]

like, there are maybe a few hundred people who are good enough at absrad to where luck is no factor

but for everyone else it is

[onyx wigeon]

like sharp shadow being a top 10 charm

[worthy peak]

Still not lucl based though

[shrewd nymph]

Its not that its not a factor, its that its not all luck

@foggy sable

[forest wind]

Chat just play tic tac toe that way there is no rng

[shrewd nymph]

Every boss has rng, no boss is rng

[loud oriole]

well i doubt anyone would even get to absrad without those in the first place

[marsh torrent]

why are they hanging

[onyx wigeon]

You are rng

[worthy peak]

There's rng in the data being corrupted though

[shrewd nymph]

Exactly why its negligible, but you can limit yourself lol: ex bindings

[worthy peak]

Or people being unpredictable

[forest wind]

On pen and paper

[loud oriole]

true

[zealous skiff]

also hi quantum, misinfo, lune grey

[foggy sable]

is there a single boss that can't be TAS'd to be done hitless?

[shrewd nymph]

And you also cannot win or lose 😭

[worthy peak]

Second statement

[onyx wigeon]

there's no misinfo

[marsh torrent]

solar flares flipping my bits

[onyx wigeon]

radabsrad is rng totally

[zealous skiff]

misinformation

[onyx wigeon]

no

[wind garnet]

Chompers

[shrewd nymph]

Hii chomp

[forest wind]

Okay but what if the boss was big bad gambler man that does damage based whether a coin landed head or tails

[onyx wigeon]

i do not know who misinformation is

[carmine lava]

hi

[onyx wigeon]

I am quattro

hi

[forest wind]

No rng though

[shrewd nymph]

Cuphead moment

[carmine lava]

i am quanto

[wind garnet]

[zealous skiff]

[forest wind]

Yk that was exactly in my mind

[loud oriole]

play nine sols

[wind garnet]

But I mean what do I know I’m just a attuned pv player

[onyx wigeon]

I don't know anything

I am new

[shrewd nymph]

Attuned pv too hard

[forest wind]

Fr...

[onyx wigeon]

I only started playing 2 weeks ago

[zealous skiff]

I mean you have beaten att pv

you aint wrong

[forest wind]

Failed to parry the 3 slash attack

[wind garnet]

[shrewd nymph]

Suscat i did -1norab pv do i get your acknowledgment

[wind garnet]

Bud I don’t know what the helly that means

[ancient ravine]

Descending dark carries zote's fight

[carmine lava]

you get suscat to call you stupid perhaps

[shrewd nymph]

uh

[onyx wigeon]

can we rank hollow knight challenges based on how stupid their acronyms are

[zealous skiff]

1 nail damage full movement

[shrewd nymph]

1 nail dmg radiant all bindings nail only

[loud oriole]

descending dark carries most stuff

[zealous skiff]

hitless

[wind garnet]

Hm

I mean that’s pretty good

[zealous skiff]

rad*

[carmine lava]

bro added ab as if that changes literally anything

[shrewd nymph]

I'll take that

[shrewd nymph]

Fancier way of saying charmless

[onyx wigeon]

it sounds more intimidating

[wind garnet]

Gl ripv

[onyx wigeon]

I blew it nvm

[forest wind]

Grizou the type of guy that's never played any smash game or the like but would still wipe the floor with you dignity

[carmine lava]

what’s the point in doing a challenge that dumb and then just adding charms

[onyx wigeon]

halfway masochism

that's why

[shrewd nymph]

Beats me but all bindings sounds more impressive than charmless

[zealous skiff]

ripos, that looks like a made up word not an acronym

[shrewd nymph]

which is why i say it that way

[loud oriole]

all of yall maso ngl

[onyx wigeon]

ripos sounds like an open software linux distro

[carmine lava]

that’s not something anyone is gonna do

so

[shrewd nymph]

Radiant itemless piece of shit? Wtf is pos

[forest wind]

Chat any tips for nkg

[zealous skiff]

prince of shadows

[onyx wigeon]

don't die

or something

[wind garnet]

Dumb of shadows

[shrewd nymph]

What on earth is prince of shadows

[forest wind]

Anything else

[onyx wigeon]

use sharp shadow

[zealous skiff]

i mean no one said it had top be possible

[onyx wigeon]

and thorns of agony

[carmine lava]

pale prince + pale shadow

[loud oriole]

sharp shadow

[shrewd nymph]

ohhh

[wind garnet]

They stack

[onyx wigeon]

Sharp Shadow + Dashmaster

[shrewd nymph]

is pale prince good ive lowk never seen it

[forest wind]

Ehh, I just use a nail build

[wind garnet]

Try it out

[onyx wigeon]

isn't that a PV mod where you just parry the guy over and over

[shrewd nymph]

thats probably the logical answer

fair

[forest wind]

Wth is that is that the pv

[carmine lava]

i played pale prince for like 5 minutes then gave up so my opinion definitely matters

[shrewd nymph]

A pv mod i think

Ik pale shadow is

[wind garnet]

The speedrun is so ass for that fight

[onyx wigeon]

PV mod makers when parry

[loud oriole]

still should work

[shrewd nymph]

You can do that with base dash

[onyx wigeon]

But lune

sharp shadow does damage

[shrewd nymph]

ehwgebsana

[worthy peak]

Sharp shadow isn't bad for nkg

[loud oriole]

if you have sharp shadow, you can dash thru nkg when he does the side attacks and avoid getting hit by flames without repositioning after that

you also get a free hit

[worthy peak]

But like not super good

[shrewd nymph]

chuck on dcrest atp

[worthy peak]

Or optimal to like use at all

[onyx wigeon]

there's totally not anything else that has I-frame and does damage

nothing in gamee at all

absolutely

[worthy peak]

Pogoing then hitting behind you

On uppercut

[loud oriole]

well im just suggesting easier ways to do it not the best ways

[shrewd nymph]

If i say its not better then grey will appear

But i will say that sshadow is bad for nkg

[onyx wigeon]

defender's crest is super good btw

it's free damage

[shrewd nymph]

its not but alr

[onyx wigeon]

imagine doing damage by doing nothing a

[worthy peak]

Hmm I disagree.

[raw canyon]

Messes up your coordination. Or is it just me?

[shrewd nymph]

Lets hear the logic

[onyx wigeon]

just you

definitely

you can trust me, a 2 week player

[worthy peak]

Kind of is. How much consistency do you lose and how much damage do you gain

[shrewd nymph]

Thats the main issue, but it often messes up base dash distance designed punishes and also less dmg

[raw canyon]

Das wat i sayin!!!!

Minus the dmg part.

Idc bout that

[worthy peak]

What if you accidentally moved first

[shrewd nymph]

And that extra distance (for 2 notches btw) leads to less damage punishes. For example, you cant hit dash hit shriek hit on pillars for 2 notches

[onyx wigeon]

well then just

dash earlier

4head

[shrewd nymph]

2 notches for less damages, bad muscle memory, harder dodges? Wow what a bargain

[loud oriole]

requires some patience but sharp shadow should work well

[shrewd nymph]

Sharp shadow is not only bad but inhibiting

[worthy peak]

Your lack of consistency in pogoing is a you issue

[shrewd nymph]

Use your preference but saying sshadow is better is lying

[raw canyon]

U expect us to foresee nkg's attacks?

[onyx wigeon]

yes

you don't?

[carmine lava]

sharp shadow more like bad shadow haha am i right

[raw canyon]

Bruh.

[shrewd nymph]

[wind garnet]

Let’s you close the gap and go away quicker

[loud oriole]

i do enjoy the longer shade dash

[onyx wigeon]

what kind of hollow knight player doesn't have foresight

[wind garnet]

But like I get it

[shrewd nymph]

extra distance means equal dmg punish

[onyx wigeon]

what if we made your dash shorter

[loud oriole]

add load limit to hollow knight like in the souls game

[worthy peak]

So if I make a mistake which makes your strategy not work. It's just skill issue. But if you can't do my strategy it's a my strategy issue

?

[loud oriole]

light dash, med dash and heavy dash

[onyx wigeon]

add a dodge roll

[raw canyon]

Champion would absolutely wipe you in that case cuz hes so W I D E

[shrewd nymph]

Its probably better for your playstyle and thats completely fine, point is that in an ideal fight its bad

[raw canyon]

[onyx wigeon]

well then

just don't get hit

not that hard

[raw canyon]

[worthy peak]

How the player uses sharpshadow influences it's effectiveness

Fight lasts longer

More movement

[shrewd nymph]

To make sshadow do equal damage requires a more difficult response

[loud oriole]

tbh the longer dash can screw you over if you use it incorrectly

[onyx wigeon]

since we're talking charms

[shrewd nymph]

Nkg is super basic without sshadow

[onyx wigeon]

Tierlist made by a friend

[shrewd nymph]

for uppercut its really hard to do with sshadow well

[worthy peak]

You are talking about ease of use. That intrinsically involves the players skills

[shrewd nymph]

Without sshadow you dash away and great slash

[loud oriole]

wayward compass not in s tier

wow

[worthy peak]

I do

Your strategy is unoptimal

And therefore not better

[shrewd nymph]

And for less damage, thats the point. You're doing equal or less damage for 2 notches

[onyx wigeon]

wow so original

[shrewd nymph]

Hence why i said in an ideal fight its bad

[worthy peak]

Except if you've made a mistake

[raw canyon]

I feel like Jonis blessing could be 1 step higher

[knotty ravine]

all things considered this list is pretty good. I have a few issues but it’s a matter of moving shit by a tier

[worthy peak]

Which is a possibility that must be addressed

[raw canyon]

I do see ppl use it

[loud oriole]

it carried all hk players in their first playthrough

[forest wind]

WHAT DO YOU CONPADS BOTTOM TIER

[shrewd nymph]

I'd argue its easier to dash away than dash through lol, regardless i said an ideal fight, not ** your** preference

[forest wind]

Why is compass bottom tier

[onyx wigeon]

It's non combat

[forest wind]

It shoyld be in easy win tier

[onyx wigeon]

not bottom

[worthy peak]

AHH player skill involved

[onyx wigeon]

none of these people can read

[worthy peak]

Some players will find pogoing easier

Than standing still

[raw canyon]

It do be like that

[worthy peak]

And timing a shade dash

[loud oriole]

i think ppl are forgetting that everyone has different playstyle

[forest wind]

How'd you know

[onyx wigeon]

Is it just the pets

[raw canyon]

Yea like why tf is half of this channel arguing about sharp shadow

[shrewd nymph]

100% but you dont argue with preference being considered, everyone has weird preferences

[raw canyon]

Js use it how you can

Or like

[worthy peak]

Well maybe that's something I brought up and so did lune

[shrewd nymph]

shaman is bad if you dont use spells, doesnt mean shaman isnt super op

[loud oriole]

i like to swing my nail and be close to my enemies at all times

[forest wind]

If you have a weird preference I will judge

[raw canyon]

Time wastingly cool

[shrewd nymph]

[noble ruin]

This mf likes to attack the enemy point and laugh

[forest wind]

Ss is... Just one of those charms

[worthy peak]

But it was claimed that the players were not related to the strategy they would get beat results with

[forest wind]

Superposition between good and shit

[shrewd nymph]

Most controversial charm

[loud oriole]

i used to be more of a spell spammer in my first playthrough but quick slash grew on me

[forest wind]

If ya wanna talk about most bugged then you gotta talk about fluke nest

[raw canyon]

[loud oriole]

idk i have never used flukenest

[shrewd nymph]

Busted charm

[loud oriole]

i heard it supposed to be broken

[raw canyon]

It sure us

Is

[forest wind]

Use it in the eternal ordeal

[loud oriole]

is there like a technique involved using that charm

[raw canyon]

Yes. _.

[loud oriole]

or just spell spam

[raw canyon]

Push them into the lil black shits

[noble ruin]

Do not say SS. This does not narrow it down. Stalwart shell, sharp shadow, spoor shroom

[raw canyon]

Big dmg

[shrewd nymph]

silksong

[loud oriole]

must be good with heavyblow

[forest wind]

Blegh .. curse the amount of acronyms

[raw canyon]

Maybe. Never tried that combo

[worthy peak]

Yet somehow everyone knows

Its funny

[loud oriole]

lmao heavy blow doesnt work on most bosses so

probably not

[noble ruin]

Wait until you hear about shade soul and silk song

[forest wind]

One less hit to stagger though!!!

[worthy peak]

But yeah you should say shadow or sharp shadow

[shrewd nymph]

Reduces stagger count by 1

[carmine lava]

SS? did you mean: Shaman stone, Shade skip, Shade soul, Sharp shadow, Silksong, Silk soul, Soul sanctum, Sealed siblings, Sly's Shop, Salubra's Shop, Stag stations, Spore shroom, Stalwart shell, Steel soul, Stone sanctuary, Scream skip, Snail shaman, Slug storage, Superslide, Savestate, or Screenshot

[loud oriole]

ive seen ppl use it on lost kin

[raw canyon]

Lost Kin gettin bullied with that one

[carmine lava]

wait

SLUG STORAGE

[shrewd nymph]

Eh, its main 'use' is on oblobbles in my experience

[noble ruin]

One of them also I forgot shaman stone

[red gale]

Which one

[carmine lava]

this is forever what i will mean when i say ss

slug storage

[worthy peak]

I've used it on lost kin cause funny

[shrewd nymph]

Do you just have this lying around for scenarios like this

[loud oriole]

ill try it

[solar tangle]

you sir are a fish

[loud oriole]

bullying the poor vessel

[carmine lava]

i just look up ss did you mean in this server

[worthy peak]

We are siblings so it's fine

[shrewd nymph]

That looks like a document you have saved deep on your pc

[loud oriole]

valid

[shrewd nymph]

I imagine you scrolling through folders tryna find it once someone said ss

[limpid matrix]

Except hes your big bro (hes litterally bigger than the knight)

[worthy peak]

It does look prepared

[raw canyon]

Wait so if Hornet is our Sis, The Hollow Knight is our big bro, whos Broken Vessel?

[knotty ravine]

No but I co think they should be integrated into the list proper

[carmine lava]

sonia

[loud oriole]

haiz all vessels are of the same age tho

[worthy peak]

Even more allowed

[knotty ravine]

Wuantum

[solar tangle]

also big bro

[worthy peak]

Second big brother

[raw canyon]

Middle big bro?

Yea smt like that

[solar tangle]

ye

[limpid matrix]

And whos the mothwing vessel

[ancient ravine]

gpz no healing ❤️‍🩹

[raw canyon]

Who?

[worthy peak]

We are the youngest (source) headcannon

[solar tangle]

the estranged brother who got disowned for doing crack

[limpid matrix]

MOTHING VESSEL

[ancient ravine]

the dead one

after beating hornet in greenpath

[solar tangle]

which dead one

[ancient ravine]

u find a body

[raw canyon]

The one in greenpath?

Oh

[loud oriole]

i gave my head canon about hollow knight true ending but ppl didnt agree with me

[ancient ravine]

it's a vessel's one

[raw canyon]

Didnt know he had a name

[worthy peak]

And then murder for bringing a stain to family name

[ancient ravine]

u get his cloak

[solar tangle]

yes

[raw canyon]

Ok im out

[worthy peak]

I wanna hear

Headcannon doesn't have to be possible

[limpid matrix]

you get his WHAT

[worthy peak]

Mothwing cloak

For dashing

[limpid matrix]

A

[solar tangle]

he had dash, HOW did he not beat hornet

[ancient ravine]

For dash

[limpid matrix]

hes buns

[ancient ravine]

"mothwing cloak"

[loud oriole]

so the embrace the void ending is the true ending. hornet fought against the hollow knight and got knocked out. the pilgrims then found her and put her in a cage. 👍

[solar tangle]

gameplay skills of my cousin

[ancient ravine]

Skill issue

[marsh torrent]

i fucking hate this motherfucking bitchass fly

[worthy peak]

Is lost kin particularly agile

[solar tangle]

to some, yes

[limpid matrix]

That was me during my early playing of hk (i was stuck on crossriad fir 5 hrs)

[solar tangle]

😭

[limpid matrix]

DDARK, OBLITERATE HIM

[sonic panther]

DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TF MY GAME GLITCHED SO HARD THAT IN ||THE ABSOLUTE RADIANCE FIGHT THE HOLLOW KNIGHT SPAWNED||

[limpid matrix]

now i do path of pain every 5 days or so

[solar tangle]

EXCUSE ME WHAAATTTT

[limpid matrix]

HUH

[loud oriole]

reminds me of one of those vids of ppl fighting nkg and pv at the same time with pale king skin

[knotty ravine]

I should update my charms tierlist I think

[solar tangle]

lore accurate grimmchild and knight

[knotty ravine]

not much to update but

[limpid matrix]

OH NO, THEYV GROWNED UP

[loud oriole]

daym i never thought of it that way

[ancient ravine]

So u fought both?

[limpid matrix]

no he ded

[solar tangle]

did the hollow knight fall into the void

[limpid matrix]

He IS the void

Wait no

He aint

[onyx wigeon]

I have been doing a terrible job of baiting

[limpid matrix]

He pure

[onyx wigeon]

fuck

[solar tangle]

ik but the radiance arena is too small for hk

[sonic panther]

YES I HAD TO FIGHT BOTH AND IT WASNT JUST ||THE SEALED VESSEL IT WAS PURE VESSEL||

[worthy peak]

Yeah but does he have a kit suited to dodging hornet. He doesn't jump as fast as us.

[peak hound]

make a silksong tools tier list

[limpid matrix]

wait huh

[onyx wigeon]

pics

[limpid matrix]

Thats

P5

[sonic panther]

my games asset glitched

[placid fable]

Helo ppl

[sonic panther]

so hard that it summoned

a boss

[ancient ravine]

Gg

[solar tangle]

because lost kin is ugly and also infected

[peak hound]

guys whats the best metroidvania game?

[placid fable]

Whats the percentage of ppl that ahve beaten p5

[solar tangle]

and yuta sucks

[sonic panther]

hollow knight

[placid fable]

Dark souls

[worthy peak]

Infected doesn't inherently weaken the ones fighting

[peak hound]

umm
the second half is kinda mid tho
especially lost izalith

[limpid matrix]

Chat should i do path of pain ahile: Jonis blessing, 5 nkgs, 20 pure vessels, and 30 abs rad?

[solar tangle]

the hollow knight disagrees

[loud oriole]

I was thinking of a quirrel game but it's just so difficult to balance. The dude is too strong so the game would be too easy.

[worthy peak]

He was fighting back against infection

[limpid matrix]

Oh yeah 40 primal aspids aswell

[worthy peak]

Also vengflies

[placid fable]

Never played the game but nice:p

[shrewd nymph]

Its like 4% or smt on steam, take that with a grain of salt though

[worthy peak]

Become more powerful

[peak hound]

fr

[placid fable]

Any1 can answer?

[knotty ravine]

like I think it might JUST be moving sb a tier up

[limpid matrix]

Less than 2%

[placid fable]

How many copies sold?

[loud oriole]

So many ppl missing out

[onyx wigeon]

@shrewd nymph You
How to bait people

[knotty ravine]

cuz the benji reasoning finally got to me after thinking about it for so long

[shrewd nymph]

No idea sorry

[peak hound]

steady body is like
pretty solid

[placid fable]

Died to fuckass markoth phase 2 first time reaching him

[fading oracle]

Finally beat p4 and got 112%

[solar tangle]

bro just look at lost kins shell, even the fallen greenpath vessel looks to be in much better shape, so clearly greenpath vessel should be much faster

[loud oriole]

HK got a lot of new players with the release of silksong

[shrewd nymph]

Id never bait, couldnt tell you

[fading oracle]

any tips for p5?

[placid fable]

Oh i thought u opened steam lemme check

[shrewd nymph]

ggs

[onyx wigeon]

who is benji

[loud oriole]

Oof that's rough

[red gale]

Ggs

[peak hound]

now go beat P5 and get the ending

[onyx wigeon]

Sharp Shadow

[placid fable]

Spotify did me dirty

[knotty ravine]

that’s goat

[loud oriole]

Beating him on ascended should be enough practice for p5

[knotty ravine]

one of them

[placid fable]

Gave me a slow song

[onyx wigeon]

what does goat mean

[fading oracle]

there's another ending?

[solar tangle]

imagine using spotify, cant be me

[worthy peak]

Does the knight fight worse with a cracked shell?

[limpid matrix]

YES

[onyx wigeon]

there's a lot of goats in this game

I don't get it

[red gale]

Do what you did to win before and practice the last few bosses alot

[onyx wigeon]

[shrewd nymph]

Nah i just remember it being like 3-5% (including achievement managers and overall cheats, but also people who barely play)

[worthy peak]

Beyond the shade no

[peak hound]

yes
you get it by beating P5

[loud oriole]

HK soundtrack is already goated

I'd never use Spotify while playing hk

[worthy peak]

Infection powers up most thinga

[knotty ravine]

he’s fucking awesome and he knows ball and we’re on the same brainwave usually so it’s fun to talk hk shit with him

[limpid matrix]

YOU NEED P4 FOR 112%?!?!

[onyx wigeon]

why do we call things goats
are we retired or something

[fading oracle]

any idea why flying bosses don't have floors anymore?

[shrewd nymph]

yup

[loud oriole]

Yup

[red gale]

Also some bosses are changed from the previous pantheons so practice them too just in case

[peak hound]

cuz its cool

[worthy peak]

It weakens things only if they fight back against it

[loud oriole]

Also colosseum of fools

[solar tangle]

no because the knight still has legs, isn't dead, and certainly doesn't walk like a snail

[fading oracle]

Literally died to xero and wasted like 10 mins

[solar tangle]

fake

doesn't exist

never happened

imagine making up false information

[worthy peak]

He can jump higher than us. Obviously fine

[knotty ravine]

for reference I have sb as the tier break

[onyx wigeon]

femoy

[worthy peak]

Was ressurected by infection

[limpid matrix]

Chat whats scarier: 10 primal aspids OR Markoth with 3x Faster nail spawn rate and speed and also deals 2 dmg and also has 3 dream shields with no platforms

[jaunty garden]

sup

[worthy peak]

So death is moot point

[red gale]

He got you there pal

[misty umbra]

Markoth radiant first try yay

[solar tangle]

still, clearly weakened

[knotty ravine]

But a while ago cuz I was talking with benji abt this list he was trying to get me to move sb a tier up

[misty umbra]

This is my 17th time radianting him

[knotty ravine]

Like months ago

[peak hound]

bro quick focus is a noob trap charm

[fading oracle]

Shape of unn being in yellow is disrespectful

[shrewd nymph]

Are the tiers ordered?

[onyx wigeon]

what was the reasoning

[worthy peak]

We didn't see his original state your evidence is mostly mute

[jaunty garden]

hello i'm new

[knotty ravine]

ya

[placid fable]

I js died to him on p5

[loud oriole]

Grubberfly's elegy

[worthy peak]

I don't believe you have sufficient justification

[solar tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/aniyabea-yt-man-stare-ab-yt-man-stare-aniyab-gif-10494397403125281154

[jaunty garden]

i have potatoes pc i just install hollowknight

[knotty ravine]

I can see like a few things shifting make ur case if you want but I’ve thought about this quite a bit

[jaunty garden]

hello

[solar tangle]

i cant do this bro its literally common sense

[agile pewter]

I think grubsong on its own is higher than its combination with weaversong

[placid fable]

Mobl

[native seal]

how to speedrun hk 🤔

[red gale]

Did you blast him with radiation or what

[paper cave]

Guys

I f did it

[full elm]

practice

[red gale]

Memorize the map and learn the skips

[placid fable]

You finish the game quick i think

[shrewd nymph]

I find mop that low interesting, its the default oc overcharm over eater

[loud oriole]

How good is fury and elegy combo

[jaunty garden]

does there any giveaways to win hollow knight

[limpid matrix]

beat game without closing the game

[ancient ravine]

Quick focus 🥀

[shrewd nymph]

Elegy brings it down alot

[onyx wigeon]

Mop is noob trap

[native seal]

how to speedrun hk but i dont know anything 🤔

[onyx wigeon]

[worthy peak]

No it's not though. Most enemies are powered up by infection

[fading oracle]

Actually yeah good question is there any full tutorials for speedrunning?

[jaunty garden]

is there any giveaways guys

for hollow knight

[paper cave]

Let's gooooo

[shrewd nymph]

Speedrun resources in the pins of #speedrunning and the speedrunning server. Video guides will also help alot

[worthy peak]

He was revived by infection and still moves fine

[fading oracle]

112% in 123 hours???

[worthy peak]

It's not like the snail movement is probably worse

[fading oracle]

took you a WHILE

[paper cave]

Mobile

[placid fable]

Yes one called job the only requirement is working a full day

[loud oriole]

If both your nail and the slash land then I'd imagine it does massive dmg

[knotty ravine]

I can see this. for me I just dont see grubsong being useful overall, and grubweavers is higher cuz it at least has unique utility that actually helps occasionally

[shrewd nymph]

You basically just watch routes but the speedrun server has lots

[limpid matrix]

"7mins" "0 sec" "123 hours"

[knotty ravine]

I have a very low opinion of gsong

[red gale]

Hi new

[shrewd nymph]

They dont stack, thats why elegy is pretty bad

[agile pewter]

Fair

[placid fable]

Thats no excuse twin i did 112 in 50 hours

[loud oriole]

Oof

[paper cave]

And I was doing some random stuff half of the time

[jaunty garden]

i'm 16

[paper cave]

Mobileee

[limpid matrix]

Grubweaver is a bit op in failed champ ngl

[sonic panther]

I have a save where I played for only 5 seconds

[full elm]

many

[solar tangle]

meanwhile the only infected vessels we have seen are weak, and the only one to have their prime state shown is much much stronger than their infected state, and its pretty clear vessels work differently compared to normal bugs

[jaunty garden]

and my country doesn't have visa or steam cards

[placid fable]

15$ can be earned from ur parents twin

[loud oriole]

But the elegy slashes become red too when used with fury

[placid fable]

Fair enough

[limpid matrix]

Wait u play hk on mobile?

[worthy peak]

Yeah but sometimes you take your.time

[jaunty garden]

yeah

[paper cave]

Yes

[shrewd nymph]

Base fury is just better than fury + elegy

[solar tangle]

yes, mobile ports exist

[knotty ravine]

while true, it is regardless an extremely powerful effect that fucks things up if you decide to equip it. I cannot ignore that

[placid fable]

Yez

[limpid matrix]

same

[worthy peak]

And do other stuff before finishing 112

[solar tangle]

same

[onyx wigeon]

Hi I'm new

[jaunty garden]

that's why hollow knight cost 6$

[solar tangle]

hi new

[full elm]

abs no reason to play on mobile but ok

[jaunty garden]

bc we dont have visa

[fading oracle]

6? I thought it was 15

[limpid matrix]

We dont have pc

[worthy peak]

Quickfocus is good a lot of the time. It's.also .never bad

[solar tangle]

having no consoles or computers

[loud oriole]

Price varies depends on the country

[jaunty garden]

no just for some poor countrys

[worthy peak]

Therefore high tier

[onyx wigeon]

67 dollars

[full elm]

use anything else

[placid fable]

Lowk same so i js gave 15$ to charity and pirated HK

[paper cave]

I actually thought u need to beat ||p5|| for 112 so that's why I have so much time

[placid fable]

Fair enough

[solar tangle]

ah yes let me use my fridge to beat pure vessel

[placid fable]

Im on mobile anyway

[full elm]

then buy one, dont expect to play games if you have nothing to play bro

[limpid matrix]

SO TODAY IM GONNA PLAY HOLLOW KNIGHT ON A PREGANCY TEST-

[paper cave]

WHAT

[jaunty garden]

i just crack it

[loud oriole]

Wtf this isn't doom

[shrewd nymph]

Surely qfocus loses points for being useless in radiant and losing effect as you improve at a boss

[full elm]

that sounds like DOOM

[jaunty garden]

but i wanna original

[sonic panther]

I played hollow knight on my calculator :p

[limpid matrix]

DOOM KNIGHT

[knotty ravine]

yeah I can see this I think. I think eater is slightly weaker cuz of the context that charm exists in

[placid fable]

Hollow fetus

[worthy peak]

I disagree I don't think cases where it's useless should lower a charms effect

[paper cave]

Holy

[loud oriole]

Carefree melody

[solar tangle]

orrrrr just use the port that already exists for free, more cost efficient

[worthy peak]

Especially if you can prepare for it

[onyx wigeon]

Just don't get hit

[jaunty garden]

for many reasons like steam archivement and no Glitches

[onyx wigeon]

It's the sharp shadow of healing

[fading oracle]

it's possible if you delete everything except dirtmouth and the knight and optimize the shit outta the game

[knotty ravine]

still very good but the fact qs is in the game complicates eater

[limpid matrix]

Carexpensive Earbreaker

[shrewd nymph]

Fair enough, i can see either side it just depends on your criteria

[worthy peak]

Also when you get good enough your use for charms I feel should have less effect

[full elm]

unofficial port that makes you play a game not made for the device. smart move

[loud oriole]

???

[placid fable]

Lowk a good phone is an amazing investment

[worthy peak]

Cause you don't need them anyway

[paper cave]

||p5 markoth|| on mobile is hell I swear

[knotty ravine]

The difference is that only one of them is good

[solar tangle]

yeah, and it still works perfectly fine, so whats the problem?

[worthy peak]

Yeah

[shrewd nymph]

Qslash really complicates things lol, higher theoretical dmg than strength, near soul gain as eater, makes sbody nuts etc etc

[worthy peak]

Really does

[full elm]

no, no it isnt

[placid fable]

I js died to him

[loud oriole]

HK on mobile sounds cursed

[paper cave]

Lol

[limpid matrix]

It isnt

[jaunty garden]

wow

[full elm]

the fact that you play on a phone and you dont support indie devs maybe

[limpid matrix]

have yall done path of pain yet

[placid fable]

S23u can run pretty much anything

[placid fable]

No and never

[solar tangle]

you can literally just use steam on the browser to pay for the game

[full elm]

buy a pc for that much

[paper cave]

Yeee, but u need to get used to it, then it is the same. I managed to get 112

[worthy peak]

There's so many different tier lists just based on how powerful they are that changes based on skill

[limpid matrix]

i did it 8 times its easy

[loud oriole]

Idk playing on mobile too hard

[worthy peak]

And the difficulty of challenge

[full elm]

you literally cant download it tho

[jaunty garden]

Guys who help me to finish 112% the game

[knotty ravine]

I dont think thats the issue. I think the issue with eater is that you genuinely generate TOO much soul if you also have qs on

[solar tangle]

thats why the ports exist? 😭😭😭

[full elm]

unofficial ones

[shrewd nymph]

Thats what i was getting at, bad wording from my part mb

[knotty ravine]

so it’s hard to justify

[limpid matrix]

i do have a vid of but its 15 mins long :/

[placid fable]

Meh

[solar tangle]

still works perfectly fine

[knotty ravine]

ya ya ya ok

[onyx wigeon]

I can't find the stupid gif

[worthy peak]

Too much soul can't be bad

[knotty ravine]

bad

[full elm]

still youre not even playing the game you paid for

[worthy peak]

I mean it's possible to nail cancel into spells

[limpid matrix]

S O U L M A S T E R F A T E

[shrewd nymph]

And tryna make an overall charm tier list (not just bosses but overworld and whatnot) is impossible

[loud oriole]

It works on radiant too btw

[knotty ravine]

that’s its WORST place lmao

[solar tangle]

except you literally are, just a different copy, which doesn't affect the gameplay whatsoever

[worthy peak]

Yeah godhome ratings sometimes completely different

[loud oriole]

Idk never tried it

[shrewd nymph]

Gimmick charm, requires mods to be viable and even then its not worth the chance for 3 notches

[full elm]

totally affects the gameplay since youre on mobile and not pc or console

[shrewd nymph]

Those 3 notches would help you not get hit more tbh

[limpid matrix]

thats controls tho?

[loud oriole]

Damn it costs 3? I don't wanna lose emotional support grimmchild.

[worthy peak]

Does

[full elm]

and speed and graphics

[knotty ravine]

yes this is true, but it’s the fact you can’t effectively dump that much soul in most circumstances

[worthy peak]

Mobile controls are.much more.difficult

[limpid matrix]

Im still getting good fps

[shrewd nymph]

Its not inhibiting but its redundant; you gotta consider the 4 notch cost

[solar tangle]

still whats the problem? if you're supporting the devs, and still playing the same game, i see no problem here, if the controls bother you just remap the buttons

[full elm]

fps≠quick gameplay btw

[limpid matrix]

u can customize it

[worthy peak]

So still a much harder control

[full elm]

thats not the point tho?😭

[placid fable]

Plug in a ps5 controller tho i prefer the mobile controls

[worthy peak]

Mainly with control stick

[full elm]

if you have a ps5 controller play on ps5

[worthy peak]

And the fact buttons are harder to simultaneously presss

[worthy peak]

:(

[placid fable]

Not necessarily buy both

[limpid matrix]

No?

[solar tangle]

then what was the point, i have provided a solution for every issue you have, you're offended over nothing 😭

[loud oriole]

Idk HK on mobile sounds like peak masochism

[full elm]

why buy the controller alone

[limpid matrix]

Yes, it is iv done 8 path of pain in it

[worthy peak]

Yes with one finger I can press two buttons on controller not same with a flat screen

[full elm]

im not offended lmao, saying the gameplay is the same is js straight up a lie

[placid fable]

Cuz i dont have a spare 500$ for a comsole i would have to also buy the games after

[loud oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-635629308990545194

Hiveblood or no

[placid fable]

No its the exact same im on 60 fps

[full elm]

says with a 1700€ phone

[knotty ravine]

it’s like meh. that’s cuz ur running elegy and that charm is ass

[ancient ravine]

🌹

[placid fable]

Phone has so many more uses than a ps5

[full elm]

fps≠everything

[worthy peak]

Also trigger buttons can't be replicated on a phone

[loud oriole]

Still has utility in radiant imo

[solar tangle]

it is, ive finished hk nearly in its entirety on mobile, i finished true ending, and im almost at 112%, theres no difference except the controls

[full elm]

yes, but doesnt have gaming purpose

[knotty ravine]

mop

[worthy peak]

Which affects gameplay

[placid fable]

Plugging a controller resolves any other issues

[shrewd nymph]

What is going on in the 'always using' section

[knotty ravine]

mark of pride is in the same hideo game

[onyx wigeon]

Slightly tweaked

[loud oriole]

PC has so many uses than consoles

[onyx wigeon]

[loud oriole]

Lil hornet

[solar tangle]

and then doesn't matter if you get good

[full elm]

o difference except gaming speed and controls and graphics. little things id say

[limpid matrix]

yes

[placid fable]

And non mac laptops are straight fodder

[loud oriole]

Cute

[full elm]

no no it doesnt lmao

[ancient ravine]

I can't unequip dash and sprint master im using them since the beginning im used to em

[onyx wigeon]

I had to move sharp shadow back to detrimental

[worthy peak]

I need to put that section on my charm tierlist

[shrewd nymph]

[full elm]

💔

[worthy peak]

Can you guess what's on it

[placid fable]

Tell about some other issues then

[visual trout]

I have 109% done in hollow knight and I dont think Ill get a 112% soon, should I buy silksong now?

[onyx wigeon]

Just because you reacted, I'm moving it up

[placid fable]

Battery dies in a 2 years or so

[solar tangle]

graphics are perfectly fine, gaming speed is fine enough for me to beat pure vessel, controls are really the only issue

[fading forge]

I literally only use my phone for anwsering calls from job and playing clash of clans

[worthy peak]

So it makes It.harder?

[full elm]

for the 6th time, graphics and dpeed

[fading forge]

Whot else can be done on phone

[shrewd nymph]

Charm tier lists are hard for me because it depends on the player so much, fury, heart, qfocus etc can go from d to s depending on ur skill

[full elm]

good enough for you≠same as original

[knotty ravine]

that’s true

[onyx wigeon]

god it's so hard

[faint nexus]

Wires

[onyx wigeon]

to pretend to be stupid

[limpid matrix]

Modding

[onyx wigeon]

how do people here do it

[full elm]

not true but sure

[onyx wigeon]

[placid fable]

Not sure you can alter graphics on HK and not sure what is dpeed

[faint nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112873622562947104/1425031000408195193/looks-inside-cat-meme.gif

[loud oriole]

Which boss do you guys like more among soul tyrant, lost kin and failed champion

[shrewd nymph]

Its not an act

[knotty ravine]

i do also just think some people gaslight themselves into thinking stuff like fury/qf is bad though

[fading forge]

Modding whot

[full elm]

speed*

[limpid matrix]

skins

[visual trout]

Lost kin, its so easy

[limpid matrix]

[worthy peak]

Unwillingness to back down from an argument to the point it stops becoming an act

[onyx wigeon]

is that a compliment or insult

[solar tangle]

its not just good enough for me, its practically indistinguishable from the console version

[loud oriole]

Fair

[placid fable]

I js said i run on 60 fps

[shrewd nymph]

Qfocus is so underrated, i have it lower than you (scales inversely with boss skill, no hitless use) but still high

[full elm]

its very distingushable

[knotty ravine]

YES

[knotty ravine]

And that shouldn’t be a hot take

[onyx wigeon]

Quick focus is what I use to overcharm

[knotty ravine]

but it is?????

[onyx wigeon]

[solar tangle]

he who has not tasted grapes says sour

[silent reef]

time to do stupid pv nkg and absrad practice yayy and then Il lgo back to running

[knotty ravine]

cuz people gaslight themselves into thinking the effect isn’t that strong. it is

that’s like a general community thing I’ve found

[shrewd nymph]

People get really good without using it, and then at that stage its pretty pointless

[knotty ravine]

I dont get it

[worthy peak]

Uhh

[shrewd nymph]

thats the difficulty

[full elm]

i did see it in my hands tho

[placid fable]

Of wut i havent been following ur convo n i wanna join

[silent reef]

peak

[full elm]

i tried the port

[loud oriole]

You can get 1 or 2 masks heal after shade dashing through pv 3 hit combo with quick focus. I forgot if it was 1 or 2.

[onyx wigeon]

gas leak

[worthy peak]

Sounds counter predictive at that point

[loud oriole]

Rip

[onyx wigeon]

no it's not

[knotty ravine]

Quick focus

[placid fable]

Which phone?

[onyx wigeon]

what about

shape of unn

[paper cave]

I can send here my radiance gameplay if anyone wonders about buttons

[worthy peak]

How is it not

[shrewd nymph]

think its only reliably 1, dont quote me on it though

[placid fable]

Yh i used it during my casual playthru

[solar tangle]

which version, theres multiple versions of the port, like the Vulcan version and the GLES version, also, what graphics settings?

[onyx wigeon]

because imagine healing faster

[shrewd nymph]

i know you can base heal once so could be 2

[placid fable]

I use vulkan

[worthy peak]

But not twice speed though

[loud oriole]

A speed run too

Gg

[worthy peak]

And you take twice damage

[onyx wigeon]

and

it makes thorns of agony better

@shrewd nymph would agree

[fading forge]

Quick focus is kinda skill issue (and makes you learn bad habit of healing-geting hit-healing - etc etc)

[worthy peak]

Therefore the effect of over harming is invariably larger than quickfocus

[worthy peak]

How so?

[shrewd nymph]

[fading forge]

😭 🥀

[knotty ravine]

which is true for casual playthroughs but thankfully I am not talking about casual playthroughs I’m talking abt godhome

[shrewd nymph]

Cant even make a misinformation joke on that account

[onyx wigeon]

what account

[knotty ravine]

What’s the number? 33%?

that shit is so broken

[onyx wigeon]

[loud oriole]

stalwart

[onyx wigeon]

I am quattro bajeena ok

[limpid matrix]

name a charm everyone uses in their first playthrough

[onyx wigeon]

Shaman stone

[loud oriole]

Defenders crest

[shrewd nymph]

Compass

[onyx wigeon]

I mean

Sharp Shadow

[knotty ravine]

it’s a fine charm. definition of mid. good effect though

[limpid matrix]

good one

[wind garnet]

Dashmaster

[knotty ravine]

do not make stalwart any better or you fuck up the game lmao

[onyx wigeon]

Grimmchild

[loud oriole]

My friend was trying to use it to face tank bosses

[solar tangle]

longnail

[fading forge]

112% and still use

For travel

[limpid matrix]

Shaman should atleast be like 5 or 6 playthroughs for people playing the game for the first time

[loud oriole]

I don't like long nail lmao

[shrewd nymph]

Lmao same here

[worthy peak]

You failed

[silent reef]

FUCK ASBRAD WHY AM I SO SHIT TODAY

[loud oriole]

If I equip long nail or mark of pride for too long, it temporarily messes up my gameplay with the regular nail size

[solar tangle]

i never used compass, i just match the room shape with the shapes of the rooms on the map, my head hurts for that reason

[loud oriole]

It happens 😭

[nova fossil]

2020 me was a spell hater 💔

[onyx wigeon]

use Long Nail + Mark of Pride

[shrewd nymph]

Applies to lots of charms tbf, but ln is overshadowed but mop anyways

[limpid matrix]

why does my brain forget the answers i studied for my test while i completely remember the hollow knight map entirely

[loud oriole]

2020 me was a spell spammer