hk-discussion

[foggy meadow]

i did oblobbles hitless but it was during a P5 run

I still need to do Radiant oblobbles

man that boss is so boring

💔

[ionic eagle]

I swear i want to be a encyclophedia of hk videos 🙏

[foggy meadow]

I think Oblobble is more annoying than hard, you can do it hitless if you play very slow

and keep your distance

[ionic eagle]

I played fast

[real otter]

I died to markoth in p5

[foggy meadow]

I do not blame you at all

its so easy to die to him if you get out of the rhythm or you're frustrated

[real otter]

I was hungry

[glass bear]

Can i get multiple endings in 1 save?

[ionic eagle]

When i got at him for the first time i died too

[foggy meadow]

I almost died to him myself and had to fight Zote with only 4 masks but I managed

[real otter]

so I had 0 rythm

[keen thorn]

Yes

And you should

[glass bear]

How?

[real otter]

you can get all 5

[ionic eagle]

Doing it normally

[glass bear]

Ohh

[keen thorn]

By just
Entering your file again

[willow flame]

should i find and fight one of the dreamers or should i explore that area that unlocks with elegant key

[glass bear]

Ok

[real otter]

elegant key first

then go get the dreamers

[remote bear]

is markoth in p4

[willow flame]

k thx

[real otter]

yes but the floor remains

[remote bear]

phew

[willow flame]

also afterr how many grubs (or all of them) do i get that 2nd grub charm

[real otter]

all grubs

[willow flame]

alr ty

[real otter]

np

[restive flax]

IM GOING TO START MY FIRST SPEED RUN WISH ME LUCK

I have no route but it's chill

[zinc delta]

imagine if you left a grub mimic in a room it could go into grub father's area and act like one of the grubs

that would be crazy

[carmine lava]

it’s pretty easy not gonna lie

[dense fjord]

What if it did

And the mimic you saved just didnt attack you

[carmine lava]

as long as you know the locations of the things you need to get you’re good

[dense fjord]

New theory unlocked

[zinc delta]

i have a theory

[dense fjord]

Is it a game theory?

[zinc delta]

what if the grub mimics were the remains of dead grub that got infected

[zinc delta]

https://tenor.com/view/just-a-theory-matpat-fnaf-movie-matthew-robert-patrick-gif-8650789653163891524

[orchid fable]

bread or key

[zinc delta]

key tastes better than bread so i choose key

[orchid fable]

i got genuinely nothing to reply to this so

[jade hedge]

gn

[fallow grotto]

🤮

probably taste like food

[orchid fable]

sadly yeah

[jade hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/jonklerv2-jonkler-joker-gif-17800025600586779753

gn guys

[fiery trench]

is that not the intention?

[fiery trench]

night cro

[zinc delta]

...

[orchid fable]

sleep in the well

[nocturne jasper]

is that shrimp or calamari

[jade hedge]

i sleep on concrete

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-13481320143050343709

[orchid fable]

squid

[zinc delta]

i sleep in the void

[nocturne jasper]

me coming home to my find my beautiful and loving wife dead in the bathtub:

[orchid fable]

i Play Hollow knight Popar game all time

😊

[fallow grotto]

i sleep on 1000 physical copies of hollow knight

[zinc delta]

...

jesus

istg if jesus shows up

[static charm]

im stuck with 1598 essence and i have 0 clue what to do

[zinc delta]

get trees

[static charm]

idk what to do rn

in hk

[fallow grotto]

skate.

[fallow grotto]

fight boss

[zinc delta]

no

[static charm]

i just beat nosk dawg

[zinc delta]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-falling-skate-board-skate-gif-14370261025123203137

[fallow grotto]

iR5AB

😳

[zinc delta]

awh

[glossy python]

so yall thoughts on this build?

I just did p5 with it

with the nail binding.

[fallow grotto]

why no overcharm 😳

[glossy python]

i dont even need to use all my slots lmao

[fallow grotto]

But u do!

you need heavy blow and glowing womb

AND U NEED CONPAS

[zinc delta]

so true

btw my copy of mcsm s2 arrived

[upper pendant]

Random Hollow Knight Trivia: List every title Grey Prince Zote gets.

[zinc delta]

aughh

uh

[fallow grotto]

those aren’t surnames.

meaning.

there is none

[upper pendant]

oh what are they called then

[fallow grotto]

titles

[upper pendant]

okay, list every title Grey Prince Zote gets then

lol

[real otter]

Invincible, Fearless, Sensual, Mysterious, Enchanting, Vigorous, Diligent, Overwhelming, Gorgeous, Passionate, Terrifying, Beautiful, Powerful

[fallow grotto]

terrifying!

[zinc delta]

https://tenor.com/view/grey-prince-zote-zote-grey-prince-hollow-knight-gif-6543239194561734901

[fallow grotto]

he looked this up

I can guarantee

[zinc delta]

lol

[fallow grotto]

fake fan

[zinc delta]

it's the 22nd now

yippee

[real otter]

omg 10000%

[fallow grotto]

in my country it’s the 28th

😳

[real otter]

and 1000 achievements

21st for me

[zinc delta]

where on earth are you for it to be the 28th

mars?

[real otter]

not on earth

duh

[fallow grotto]

who said I was on earth

[solar parrot]

i mean i'd take dream nail charm tbh

[zinc delta]

i'd take voidheart

[solar parrot]

on a nail bound p5 idk

[zinc delta]

👍

[solar parrot]

it'd be for uh. thingy. watcher knights

fast nail is nice there to be sure you're maxed for whatever the next fight is

i don't recall

[glossy python]

I actually did have it on.. I took the screenshot before i started and at the first bench i realizied it wasnt on, so i replaced heart with dreim wielder

I use dream wielder in every build.

You cant go wrong with it

[solar parrot]

ye

solid

[foggy meadow]

not really seeing any synergies, all your charms don't benefit each other

[valid thicket]

The Radience help plz

[foggy meadow]

they are all good charms but there isn't synergy

[edgy horizon]

Grey Prince Zote gets bullshitty on the fourth fight.

[glossy python]

ok and?

[solar parrot]

you end up with glory for some specific fights ig
i'd just probably lean into soul a little more with a bound nail

[glossy python]

This is a 8 notch build thats carried me through ELEVEN steel heart runs

[foggy meadow]

I mean if you like the build you can use it I just don't think its anything special and you'd be better off with Quickslash on there at the very least

[valid thicket]

What build

[foggy meadow]

cool

[solar parrot]

what's steel heart

[edgy horizon]

100% completion on Steel Soul mode.

[glossy python]

strenght, shamen, NMG and dream wielder

[solar parrot]

is that just ss 100 thk kill

[foggy meadow]

I beat steel soul without quickslash at all I can play without using good charms, I'm just saying

[solar parrot]

like, sure. idk

[edgy horizon]

Why does GPZ have to do double damage on the fourth fight?

[solar parrot]

strong

[edgy horizon]

It's not fair.

[valid thicket]

And then I can put on MoP for nail length

Hey any good builds for the radiance

[glossy python]

just use qs atp. the point is this is a EIGHT notch build

[foggy meadow]

like this is my main build, the charms have synergy
Spell Twister benefits Shaman Stone tons, Quickslash just benefits everything because its more SOUL and more DPS, Steady Body is a DPS boost as well as enabling more aggressive play, Dreamwielder and Nailmaster's Glory allow for more versatility, but are admittedly the 2 weakest charms which could easily be replaced

and of course this build is missing Unbreakable Strength, which is one of the best charms in the game that I simply don't use

[glossy python]

and its carried me through ELEVEN permadeath steel hearts

[solar parrot]

heart strength qs long sb

[foggy meadow]

I mean fragile heart kinda just not a good charm imo

2 more masks is fine but just don't get hit

[glossy python]

8 mask shards before claw?

[foggy meadow]

its good early on

[hard raft]

Why is the Hollow Knight just not very hard

[solar parrot]

an extra hit on rad is nice

[foggy meadow]

even then I just don't use it because I don't need it

[solar parrot]

there is an actual answer to this

how far are you into the game

[foggy meadow]

kinda glad he isn't that hard

[hard raft]

I mean I have the 3rd upgrade to the nail

[foggy meadow]

though its a shame you can't fight him in pantheons

[hard raft]

I suppose I could just fight Pure Vessel

[hard raft]

Pure Vessel

[keen thorn]

He's designed to be easy with full gear so you can get to Radiance easily

[solar parrot]

^

[foggy meadow]

Quickslash is better than Fragile Strength because it boosts SOUL and is more of a DPS boost overall I'm pretty sure, unless you're fighting something you can't hit often like Sly, but at that point just use Nail Arts (which aren't boosted by Strength)

[solar parrot]

it's a pre-fight

[hard raft]

Then there is Radiance

[keen thorn]

He's balanced around non maxed gear since you're not supposed to wait for 100% for it

[foggy meadow]

that's a different boss

[valid thicket]

Any tips for the radiance

[foggy meadow]

Descending Dark removes the spikes

makes it a bit easier

also you can pogo her a lot if you know what you're doing

Steady Body is goated vs Radiance

uhh that's all I guess

Abyss Shriek shreds her and you can skip to Phase 3 pretty fast with it

[valid thicket]

I use abyss shriek the second she spawns

[solar parrot]

practice it and learn the moveset, idk. you can heal 6 after first stage. learning to hold jump while still swinging nail is helpful to hit multiple times per jump

[valid thicket]

All my soul gone

[foggy meadow]

you can heal tons in Radiance

[hard raft]

It’s the dream version of The Hollow Knight

[keen thorn]

Mathematically quickslash is better than strength but you can't always reap the maximum benefit.
But both are so unbelievably overpowered and above every single other charm that is not called shaman stone (or fury/flukenest with the skill required) that there's absolutely no reason you should not use both

For godhome that is

[foggy meadow]

I don't use strength

even though its a very good charm

[solar parrot]

yes, and like all dream variants it is a different boss

[foggy meadow]

I like versatility more even if its technically less viable

[hard raft]

Fury of the Fallen is amazing if you’re good at doing stuff hitless

[foggy meadow]

I really like Dream Nailing where I can, you get tons of SOUL with dreamwielder
I love nail arts and they help a lot in specific bosses (P5 Collector, Sly, Markoth)

[foggy meadow]

you need to get to 1 HP first

[keen thorn]

Are you Sonia's alt?

[foggy meadow]

idk who that is

[hard raft]

I hate Markoth SO MUCH

[solar parrot]

markoth and xero for me with arts, yeah.

[foggy meadow]

I just don't use Strength even though its stupidly good

I used to not even use QS

[keen thorn]

The only actually really good hk player that doesn't use strength because she thinks it's lame

[foggy meadow]

I used to think QS is lame but I warmed up to thinking its kinda cool when used properly

and not just spamming mindlessly and facetanking and winning

[keen thorn]

Well unlike sterngt qs doesn't just give free benefit

You have to gain it

[foggy meadow]

I just dislike how OP it is since its both OP in spell and nail builds

[foggy meadow]

yeah that's the best thing about it

[keen thorn]

And it actually changes how you play

[hard raft]

Some bosses are just easier to quick facetank ngl

[foggy meadow]

and I like using it with Steady Body

allows you to play super aggressively

[keen thorn]

Strength was just not balanced around it being unbreakable

[hard raft]

Steady Body is one of those charms you use just to fill the last slot but you REFUSE TO TAKE IT OFF after equipping

[foggy meadow]

I don't really mind it

[foggy meadow]

I can play without it, but it makes Pure Vessel and Absrad way easier

since I've done bindings on Pantheons 1-3

[hard raft]

This was me with Mark of Pride

[keen thorn]

Steady Body is just a very funny charm

[foggy meadow]

I never used MoP

or Longnail

and I don't think I ever will

even though they are good

[hard raft]

Mark of Pride is so nice

[foggy meadow]

I prefer to just rely on the base range of the nail

[hard raft]

I think we can all agree the best unbreakable charm is Strength

[keen thorn]

Is that even a question?

[foggy meadow]

yeah the other two are shit

[hard raft]

Greed is a scam and heart is only good if ur actually that bad

[foggy meadow]

I hate to sound rude but HP boosting charms are just not good

[devout zephyr]

is my build good
shaman stone
heart
soul eater
spell twister

[foggy meadow]

take off heart

[devout zephyr]

kk

[foggy meadow]

also soul eater is bad ngl

[hard raft]

I’ve only used them Sonali could get 15 lifeblood hearts

[foggy meadow]

I used it a ton but its just not very good

[keen thorn]

Well it is true

[devout zephyr]

it is?

[keen thorn]

Ester twister allows to have basically infinite soul

[foggy meadow]

Quick Slash gives you more SOUL if you are more confident

[hard raft]

I don’t use the soul increaser charms anymore

[devout zephyr]

true

[keen thorn]

It's fine if you play sliwly

[devout zephyr]

didnt think abt that

[foggy meadow]

yeah its a good combo but Quickslash can almost be used to the same effect

[hard raft]

Aside from Grubsong

[foggy meadow]

mostly SOUL Eater suffers from being 4 slots

I think it should be 3

[hard raft]

Aren’t Mark of Pride and Longnail essentially the same thing?

[keen thorn]

3 would be too much, it'd have to be nerfed

[foggy meadow]

Longnail is much shorter

[keen thorn]

But then it would kinda lose it's spot as a massive soul artillery

[foggy meadow]

I really think it'd be fine

[keen thorn]

Longnail is 15% and MoP 25%

[foggy meadow]

MoP is much better than Longnail

[keen thorn]

But the sprite of Longnail is actually a lie

[hard raft]

The notch cost is also why Kingsoul suffers

[keen thorn]

It just feels so weirdly short

[foggy meadow]

Kingsoul is supposed to be bad so you don't miss it anyway

when it goes

[keen thorn]

Even tho it isnt

[foggy meadow]

sorry I respost it tons but yeah this is my favourite build to run

[hard raft]

The concept is good on paper, in actual gameplay it sucks

[foggy meadow]

though I also really like Grubfly Elegy builds

even though its kinda a whatever charm

its a fun charm for sure

especially with Fury

[keen thorn]

I wish elegy wasn't shit

Because it's certainly interesting

[foggy meadow]

imo it can be insanely broken since you can play stupidly safe

but it requires not getting hit, so

[hard raft]

How do u get Grubfly Elegy?

[foggy meadow]

I think it'd be better if it did 75% of nail damage but then people would say its too OP

[keen thorn]

Exactly

[keen thorn]

In hitless there's a concept of safety vs speed

[foggy meadow]

I also think it should work with Nail Arts

[hard raft]

Wanna know what else sucks? Carefree Melody

[keen thorn]

If you play too fast you're gonna get hit to being reckless

[foggy meadow]

so like your nail art has a projectile

but its obviously nerfed damage

just imagine how cool it'd be especially on cyclone

[keen thorn]

But if you play too safe you're gonna drag the fight too much and increse your odds of getting hit to a mistake

[foggy meadow]

yes

[keen thorn]

Since elegy forces hitless gameplay it's stuck on this loop

[hard raft]

Which charm gives the nail a shockwave again?

[foggy meadow]

eh its actually a good charm but its another survivability boosting charm and I don't like any of those

[keen thorn]

But then it's also bad with soul and can override nail hotbox priorities

[foggy meadow]

Grubfly Elegy

[keen thorn]

So it just makes it even worse

[hard raft]

If you’re good at the game it’s useless

[keen thorn]

Carefree melody

[foggy meadow]

it should give like 50% soul maybe but then I feel it'd be too strong

ughh its hard to balance

[keen thorn]

Only good for unfair rng modded bosses

[keen thorn]

That would probably be fine

[hard raft]

If we’re talking vanilla game it sucks

[foggy meadow]

I'll do my charm tierlist ig

[keen thorn]

Elegy is actually on the weak side so a good buff is fair

[hard raft]

Yes pls

[keen thorn]

Oh no not a charm tier list

[hard raft]

@foggy meadow is ur pfp Cream the Rabbit?

[foggy meadow]

yeah it is

[hard raft]

W

I’m a fellow Sonic fan

[dense fjord]

Youll never guess what my pfp is

[hard raft]

Hornet

[dense fjord]

Howd you know

[lament smelt]

a cat

[hard raft]

It’s not like she’s a significant character and she’s the main character of Silksong

[dense fjord]

Exactly

[dense fjord]

Bingo

[ionic eagle]

Nice pfp

[dense fjord]

Tysm

[ionic eagle]

Np :3

[dense fjord]

Your pfp is awesome too:3

[hard raft]

You’ll never guess mine

[ionic eagle]

Tysmmmm :3

[dense fjord]

Quirrel

[hard raft]

Zote

[dense fjord]

I should’ve known

[hard raft]

You’re sitting at 111%?

In HK?

[silver spoke]

I beat abs rad without getting hit on ascended is that the same thing as radiant

[foggy meadow]

idk how to rank healing charms

Quick Focus is insanely good but if you're a good player you probably don't use it

[foggy meadow]

I mean yeah but it won't count as a radiant clear

[hard raft]

@dense fjord

[dense fjord]

Yes

[foggy meadow]

nice

hard to pick a fav its between Blaze and Cream

[silver spoke]

not as bad as me im at 107% and I have beat p5

[foggy meadow]

also like Silver a lot and Sonic of course

[lament smelt]

do you guys use controller or keyboard and mouse tick for controller x for kbm

[dry bone]

It's the same but without the pressure I think

[dense fjord]

Controller

[copper spruce]

Keyboard

[silver spoke]

I do my ascended runs overcharmed since I want to do them radiant anyway lol

[carmine lava]

controller

[hard raft]

What’s preventing the last 1%?

[dense fjord]

P4

Havent got around to it yet

[hard raft]

I should’ve expected

[silver spoke]

nice youve done pure vessel radiant too

[foggy meadow]

yeah genuinely no idea how to rank healing charms

[hard raft]

I feel like the thing with most HK bosses. Once you know they’re attacks and how they visualize them it becomes really easy

[dry bone]

Yea

[foggy meadow]

technically they are not that good but Quick Focus can let you heal in so many places you normally couldn't, and Shape of Unn lets you slide under so many attacks and hcheese other ones its funny

[dry bone]

I beat pv as soon as I learned his atks

[lament smelt]

not this again

[foggy meadow]

another scam, cool

[dry bone]

And radiant like 3 attempts after

[silver spoke]

.....

bro why tf is everyone so much better then me at this stupid game

[dry bone]

Dw

[hard raft]

Absolute Radiance?

[dry bone]

Pv

[silver spoke]

I have 144 hours

[past sage]

Hi every one is just join

[dry bone]

Pv is like the only radiant I can do

Somehow

[silver spoke]

for me that is the hardest boss

to radiant

[hard raft]

Also question, in godhome in the places where you fight bosses individually, is the Radiance there normal Radiance or Absolute Radiance?

[dry bone]

Ab

[silver spoke]

not even NKG thats like temu PV

[dense fjord]

This is my HoG so far personally

[silver spoke]

my first radiant was NKG Im addicted to NKG

[dry bone]

My first was crystal guardians

[merry sonnet]

ok i need help finding a hollow knight animation vid can

anyone help?

[hard raft]

Is Radiance in HoG Normal or Absolute?

[dry bone]

Abs

[merry sonnet]

ive been looking 4 a while

[ionic eagle]

Me recently :3

[hard raft]

Oooooooo

[dry bone]

holy

[foggy meadow]

perhaps I am too harsh on some charms, I find charms hard to rank ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hard raft]

Woah

[dense fjord]

Gpz where

[ionic eagle]

Im gonna show my hardest feats

[foggy meadow]

lowkey Dash Master sucks too

[merry sonnet]

any1?

[foggy meadow]

overrated as hell just crystal dash everywhere smh

[hard raft]

Which one is the bottom one?

[foggy meadow]

Sprintmaster

just pointless

[silver spoke]

Mop below fury is based are you a speedrunner or something

[hard raft]

Especially when Crystal Dash exists

[dry bone]

i have mawklet, marmu, gorb all radiant too

[ionic eagle]

I think thats decent

[foggy meadow]

Fury and Flukenest are so hard to rank, they can be insanely OP but only in the right hands

[hard raft]

Grimm isn’t very hard hitless

[remote bear]

white palace peak ragebait

[merry sonnet]

i used dash master during white palace, do NOT use it during while palace. ESPECIALLY on the switch or while using a controller, i have accidently down dashed during it more times i can count

[ionic eagle]

I already beat nkg, just didnt posted it yet

[dry bone]

Fury is only good if ur really good at the game

[ionic eagle]

(Charmless, hitless, nail only, no nail arts)

[foggy meadow]

hence why I find it hard to rank

[hard raft]

His attacks are telegraphed well meaning you always know which one he’s gonna use, and his attacks aren’t very hard to dodge

[foggy meadow]

whereas a lot of charms like Quick Focus you won't even use if you're good

no offense to people who use it

[silver spoke]

is spell twister that good??

[foggy meadow]

its just pointless if you're good at actually knowing where to heal and not getting hit

[dry bone]

yuh

[foggy meadow]

its my favourite charm but

I mean

Quick Slash is the best charm

[dry bone]

spell twister isnt bad

[foggy meadow]

oops I didn't put Quick Slash first

oh well

[dry bone]

strength is better

imo

[foggy meadow]

nah not really

Quickslash gives you more SOUL

and more DPS

[hard raft]

Joni’s Blessing has a single use

[foggy meadow]

Strength is only better if you can't hit things as often

but then you should just nail art

and Strength doesn't boost nail arts

[silver spoke]

people actually use nail arts???

[hard raft]

Combine the 2

[foggy meadow]

ok can you fuck off please

[lament smelt]

how do i kill the 2 oblobbles in the collosium im underlvled btw

[merry sonnet]

STOP

[dry bone]

shade soul

[foggy meadow]

they can be stupidly strong especially Dash Slash for the range and Cyclone Slash for the huge damage

Great Slash is also just good for 1 hit killing annoying enemies like Primal Aspids

[silver spoke]

just quick slash while the boss is standing still

[hard raft]

Dash Slash is insanely useful against Sly

[lament smelt]

i dont have lol

[dry bone]

they take way too much time to charge for me

[merry sonnet]

spells besides d-dark/d-dive

[silver spoke]

quick slash and strength is easily the best combo in the game unless you are a sweat then maybe it varies

[foggy meadow]

I'll do him radiant soon since I'm really good at the Sly fight now but Dash Slash true strength is shown in this fight

[hard raft]

I just spammed shade soul on them, works wonders

[foggy meadow]

you can use NMG but like Nail Arts are kinda something you need to be very knowledgeable about and committed to using

so I kinda understand why most don't use them

its a big commitment without NMG

[hard raft]

I was also using Shaman Stone

[willow cave]

good or bad HoG

[silver spoke]

during last phase PLEASE DDARK SPAM AGHHHHHHHH

[merry sonnet]

i spammed abyss shriek with shamans, upslash with UB strength and quick slash

[dry bone]

i basically refuse to use anything but my go to

[foggy meadow]

I mean yeah you can D.Dark spam but that's not as reliable

[dry bone]

but nail arts are good against markoth

[hard raft]

I didn’t have Howling Wreiths

[foggy meadow]

if you don't have the soul for it

I just wanted to try do it without relying on D.Dark

[silver spoke]

pretty good HoG

[keen thorn]

Just don't greed for dash slash, jump over him in the middle so there isn't any future hitbox

[foggy meadow]

you mean when he uses Dash Slash?

[keen thorn]

Yes

[foggy meadow]

yeah I don't try attack him after that anymore

since he can combo out of it immediately

its too risky

could Shade Soul him maybe

that'd be safer

[keen thorn]

Oh I get what you wrote

[dry bone]

shade soul hits twice

[hard raft]

How does Sly even carry that heavy of a nail

[foggy meadow]

idk but Sly is based

[dry bone]

hes just built different

[foggy meadow]

my fav hollow knight character is Sly

he's so funny

[dry bone]

pretty sure bugs can carry like 50x their weight anyway

irl

[hard raft]

Bro loves geo more then his own nail

[foggy meadow]

I suppose I really like the player character (The Knight) as well but that's kinda a basic choice

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silver spoke]

can somebody rate my HoG on a scale of 1 to 10

[hard raft]

Which is the …..

[dry bone]

'All's fair in a world made of Geo.'

[silver spoke]

GPZ

[hard raft]

Did u not save Zote?

[dry bone]

u should try to ascend everything

[silver spoke]

not in deepnest yet

[dry bone]

i havent done gpz either

[foggy meadow]

I've got work to do

[hard raft]

I’ve saved Zote in Greenpath and Deepnest

[silver spoke]

better than mine

[dry bone]

hes jsut yapping in dirtmouth rn

[hard raft]

He does that

Have u fought him in the Collesium?

[dry bone]

yuh

he was so difficult

[hard raft]

Ikr

[dry bone]

hardest boss imo

[hard raft]

Yeah

Ok let’s actually be real now

[gritty plover]

Can I beat troup master Grimm without double jump

[foggy meadow]

yeah

[hard raft]

Zote is the easiest boss I’ve ever fought in a video game

[hard raft]

Yes

[foggy meadow]

I wouldn't recommend doing NKG without it though

[willow cave]

FUCK i almost did radiant SoB but i died right before i could defeat the last on bruh

[foggy meadow]

you can do it

[silver spoke]

should I do r1-r3

[hard raft]

Sisters of Battle is fun

[foggy meadow]

why does Pantheon 3 have so much annoying crap back to back

[violet light]

Yay!!!

[hard raft]

And Pantheon 4

P4 is all dream bosses back to back

[silver spoke]

at least markoth isnt as bad sigh

[hard raft]

Most annoying dream warrior

[silver spoke]

guys you can touch the ground on markoth on p4

I said its not as bad

not that it isnt bad

[real island]

this channel is not filled with slop?¡???

what a miracle

[foggy meadow]

Hive Knight is pretty fun, Elder Hu is one of the worst bosses ever (boring), Collector isn't that bad but when he's buffed he definitely is (or with Bindings), God Tamer has 2 attacks 💔, then we have Grimm who is peak, Galien is boring, Zote is very annoying, Uumuu isn't hard but takes a long time with bad RNG, Hornet Sentinel has some very annoying tendencies (random poorly telegraphed jumps, and sometimes doing instant attacks), and then Sly is genuinely one of my favourite bosses, but admittedly he is super annoying when you first fight him and don't know how to counter his Phase 2

[violet light]

Holy essay 🥀

[foggy meadow]

essay
its only a few words man how rotted is your brain

[zinc delta]

i hate hive knight

[foggy meadow]

Hive Knight is fun when you practice him a lot

the only thing I hate is if he uses Bees right before a stagger

[silver spoke]

hive knight is easy

[hard raft]

NKG is peak

[foggy meadow]

NKG isn't in P3

but yeah hes very fun

[hard raft]

Both Grimm bosses are hella fun

[foggy meadow]

Galien with bindings just lasts way too long

[willow flame]

Where do i find that area where i can reverse bosses

[foggy meadow]

like Galien is a boss I abyss shriek 6 times and I'm done

but with SOUL binding I can't

[hard raft]

Galien?

[foggy meadow]

Galien is the dreamer with a scythe that bounces around

[silver spoke]

Im going to have nightmares of markoth

[foggy meadow]

then he summons 2 smaller scythes

[hard raft]

Oh

[foggy meadow]

also he has collision for some reason and sometimes he just flies into you

[hard raft]

Then there is Gorb

[violet light]

Where do I go after soul master

I forgot

[hard raft]

Gorb is a joke

[foggy meadow]

anywhere
you can access more of royal waterways and crystal peak now

[silver spoke]

the most diabolical combo of all of the pantheons is markoth into failed champion

who designed that

[foggy meadow]

its Markoth into Zote into Failed Champion

[violet light]

I meant like directly after the fight

Also I figured it out! :3

[silver spoke]

didnt save zote

[foggy meadow]

be glad

zote is annoying asf

[dry bone]

its not that bad

[foggy meadow]

Failed Champion can be cheesed so hes easy

infinite soul generator

[silver spoke]

50% of people say its hard asf 50% says its the easiest thing ever

[dry bone]

u can inf stagger

[hard raft]

R u talking about GPZ?

[foggy meadow]

stagger him once you win

[real island]

Failed champion easy af

[foggy meadow]

yeah

[silver spoke]

bro what

[hard raft]

Oh yeah that

[dry bone]

yuh

[silver spoke]

wdym

[foggy meadow]

pogo his back and it resets his stagger timer, you can dream nail, pogo, dream nail, pogo, heal, etc.

as long as you don't hit his head

[violet light]

Easiest thing for the first time, worst thing ever for retry 4+

[silver spoke]

WHAT

[dry bone]

if u dont know about the cheese he can be difficult

[silver spoke]

are we being dead serious

[hard raft]

So he never gets back up?

[willow cave]

YES RADIANT SOB

[foggy meadow]

even without cheese with dreamwielder I am able to get in 3 dream nails and just blast him with abyss shriek and shade soul

[violet light]

There is a what now.

[copper spruce]

Ok

[lament smelt]

if u do it right

[foggy meadow]

yeah I exploit this for a full heal usually

[dry bone]

he has an infinite stagger

free dream nail

[silver spoke]

free heals

[foggy meadow]

yeah

[hard raft]

Does he take more damage this way?

[violet light]

How I feel after beating a boss that took me over 6 hours in one try

[silver spoke]

failed champion ended half of my p5 runs

[dry bone]

u should see abs rad

[violet light]

I am NOT fighting absrad on my steelsoul save

[dry bone]

it doesnt even kill u

but theres no point to it

[silver spoke]

its a dreamworld

[violet light]

Oh

Right

[hard raft]

Is 112% even possible in Steel Soul?

[violet light]

Yeah?

[dry bone]

yes

[silver spoke]

why wouldnt it be

[hard raft]

Cool

[dry bone]

name one thing that isnt

[hard raft]

The achievement doesnt exist for it sadly (only for 100% in Steel Soul)

[keen thorn]

@copper spruce

[violet light]

That one guy in dirtmouth

[keen thorn]

Explode

[zinc delta]

who?

[silver spoke]

the most depressing thing is that you cant do shade skip so you have to do the temu version with cdash

[hard raft]

Jiji?

[dry bone]

u really limited it down huh

[violet light]

I forgot. He gets replaced by steel soul Jinn or whatever

[keen thorn]

Because that released with the game, unlike 112

[violet light]

The rancid egg guy

[keen thorn]

Steel soul 112 achievement would just be slop

[dry bone]

hes not a percent

[violet light]

I know

[silver spoke]

should I radiant all of HoG

[hard raft]

Yes

[keen thorn]

Yes

[silver spoke]

nvm forgot oblobble I give up

[hard raft]

Abs Rad is worse

[copper spruce]

You explode

[silver spoke]

pv is worse than abs rad

[hard raft]

Not really

[silver spoke]

idk why but abs rad is not that bad

pv took me hours

[ionic eagle]

As a person who completed RadHoG, i can confirm thats not true

[hard raft]

Pure Vessel can be done so fast

[ionic eagle]

Yup

[hard raft]

What was the hardest for you?

[valid thicket]

I need help with Radiance

[foggy meadow]

no he doesn't

[silver spoke]

ig im just special in my own ways

[tribal gust]

Hello

[foggy meadow]

completely opposite for me I hate absolute radiance

[hard raft]

Omg u just spawned in randomly

[foggy meadow]

pure vessel is much easier for me it feels very consistent

absolute radiance has lots of RNG

[copper spruce]

Yay i killed genio

[tribal gust]

Primal aspid is here to conquer your souls

[valid thicket]

Nope

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gun-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-eyebrowns-gif-18404585

[copper spruce]

Whats a soul

[pliant bough]

not really no

[silver spoke]

hollow knight players dont have those

[foggy meadow]

yes really yes

she has several different attacks that she can do

[brave nebula]

after over a month of casual play i finally did it 🥹

[silver spoke]

same can be said for PV

[foggy meadow]

her orb attack is random (3-4 with random spawn points)

[hard raft]

AbsRad has a gender?

[foggy meadow]

she teleports all over the place

she can decide to put spikes on the left or the right

[pliant bough]

if thats how youre considering rng then its beyond meaningless

[foggy meadow]

her sword formations are very random

[silver spoke]

pv can go flying if you stun them at the wrong time

[foggy meadow]

she teleports all over the place

shes just a pain in the ass

I hate Phase 4

[zinc delta]

regular radiance also has a gender so why wouldn't absrad

[shy sky]

I just realized I haven't been online here in like 2 weeks

I recognize nobody here

Where did everyone i know go

[foggy meadow]

lots of different attacks with lots of different variations of said attacks with the ability to layer attacks on top of each other

[hard raft]

I didn’t realize Radiance had a gender

[foggy meadow]

she is way more random than PV

who has different attacks yes, but they are very consistent

the most random of his is the "focus" attack

[silver spoke]

ok these are all very factual but I have one counterpoint

the void attack

[foggy meadow]

PV's?

[silver spoke]

is the most unfair attack in the entire game is has killed me more than any other

[foggy meadow]

just go towards him and pogo

lol

[violet light]

What would it say if you dreamnailed infected Sly?

[pliant bough]

there isnt lots of variations and they dont overlap

[valid thicket]

Help with Radiance plz

[foggy meadow]

they literally do overlap

the light wave that goes left-right (or visa versa) can overlap with other attacks

the spikes overlap with other attacks

[magic glacier]

susthecat_orange

[foggy meadow]

the orbs if she summons 4 will linger into the next attack

so idk what you mean

[pliant bough]

you have to intentionally make them overlap and its only possible for really 1 attack to do so

[foggy meadow]

guess she can't have spikes on the field at the same time as other attacks then

[pliant bough]

i mean that attacks dont overlap

[foggy meadow]

or summon the screenwide laser

that goes from one side to the other

[pliant bough]

thats beyond disingenuous

[silver spoke]

screen wide laser is the easiest attack to dodge

[foggy meadow]

well I mean she can have several attacks going on at the same time

[pliant bough]

she cant

[foggy meadow]

sure, its just annoying when she spawns shit behind it

[zinc delta]

i'm tired rn gn

[foggy meadow]

she can I will fucking break if I have another person try to gaslight me

[violet light]

Omg I just realized Sly mentions Oro when you meet him for the first time

[pliant bough]

thats also disingenuous

[valid thicket]

Yep that’s how I’ve died a few times dashed through the laser into another attack

[foggy meadow]

she can spawn orbs behind it or swords behind it so you really don't want to leave it too late to dash through it

typically I d.dark through it if I think I'm in danger of being hit by another attack

[silver spoke]

what abs rads are you getting

[foggy meadow]

especially if spikes are below

[foggy meadow]

I was playing it on ascended

[silver spoke]

you sound like you are getting scammed rng

[foggy meadow]

I haven't beat it on attuned

definitely can though since well

I beat it with her doing double her normal damage

[valid thicket]

No normal Rads im talking about

[foggy meadow]

normal radiance is easy

in comparison

and she has like no HP

[lament smelt]

NOOOOO

[valid thicket]

YESSSSS

[silver spoke]

question what is the difference I can feel the differnce but what actually is the difference

[vocal bay]

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-gif-4203965360645724013

[foggy meadow]

absolute radiance's attacks are all much faster

and some can overlap

but people will insist they can't

even though I've seen with my own two eyes that they can

[valid thicket]

I was kidding

[foggy meadow]

actual bullshit trying to convince me they don't overlap

[violet light]

Don't worry he's still alive !

[foggy meadow]

if we're talking two attacks literally on top of each other, no, she isn't going to spawn swords from the side and swords from the top at the same time

[valid thicket]

For now

[silver spoke]

screen wide laser you can just wait until it gets closer to you or you can just run away if its at a bad time

[pliant bough]

bro read nothing

[foggy meadow]

but I've seen her summon her 4th orb whilst summoning swords
she will always do the screenwide laser during other attacks
and when transitioning between phases she can have overlap

[slate storm]

two hours of pain

[willow cave]

wtf why is dung defender under the ground

[valid thicket]

It’s called the path of pain for a reason

[foggy meadow]

you are beyond insufferable

[silver spoke]

if you stun him while he tries to go underground he can do that happes to me all the time

[violet light]

I'm killing her the moment I get crystal heart

[spiral vault]

Okey

[valid thicket]

NO NO NUH UH DONT DO IT

[foggy meadow]

best to kill her

she is suffering otherwise

[real island]

what no

if you get godhome ending you free her

[foggy meadow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I already killed her

[real island]

monster

[valid thicket]

Why do you think I’m trying to kill The Radiance so she can be free

[violet light]

It's time for the worst region in the entire game other than deepnest & royal waterways

[foggy meadow]

I thought I was saving her, tbf

I didn't want to kill her but I didn't want her to suffer either

[valid thicket]

True

[silver spoke]

also she still has to go through the pain

so is it really worth it

[pliant bough]

she would die. you cant save her

[foggy meadow]

oh look you were right for once

[pliant bough]

always. not once

[foggy meadow]

mm no try again

[pliant bough]

you not understanding how the boss works doesnt change how it functions

[foggy meadow]

sure I guess I "don't understand" it

even though I literally have seen attacks happen whilst other attacks are happening

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[silver spoke]

to be fair the beam is slow so another attack can be done by time it gets to you

[foggy meadow]

the screenwide laser isn't even that bad I just hate that shit can spawn behind it

[violet light]

Cornifer!!!!!!!!!!

[pliant bough]

which really wasnt the point

[foggy meadow]

I mostly hate yellow attacks on a yellow background
things spawning behind the screenwide laser
sword patterns that are nearly impossible to dodge in combination with said screenwide laser (you need to D.Dark it or basically be psychic and guess)
RNG on phase 4 where she just refuses to come close to any platforms for long periods of time

found the boss more frustrating than fun but it had fun aspects

feels good to overcome the challenge

still not particularly happy that several of my deaths were caused to things I had trouble seeing

[verbal summit]

NOOOO

[foggy meadow]

and then people will make fun of me for not being able to see the attacks very well like damn

[violet light]

Why does literally everyone ever have grimmchild equiped before Quirrel dies?

[silver spoke]

idk maybe they need the flames

then they stumbled upon blue lake I really dont know

[foggy meadow]

you can go through blue lake to get to one of the flames

iirc

[verbal summit]

dunno i just had it equipped cuz i recently started grimm troupe

[silver spoke]

2nd phase absrad is the easiest

[foggy meadow]

she has 6 phases

[silver spoke]

???

aint no way the transitions count as phases

[foggy meadow]

Phases 1-3 are easy especially Phase 3
Phase 4 is ass and my least favourite part
Phase 5 is fine just be patient
Phase 6 is the same, just be patient

[silver spoke]

I call 2nd phase when the platforms come in

when does 2nd phase actually happen

[foggy meadow]

Phase 1 is no spikes
Phase 2 she can summon spikes
Phase 3 she rains down swords constantly
Phase 4 you move to the platforms
Phase 5 is the climb
Phase 6 is the final platforms with orbs

[silver spoke]

phase 4 is by far the easiest

[foggy meadow]

I dislike that Phase 4 can be super short with good RNG or super bullshit with bad RNG and too long

[silver spoke]

it has like no health

[foggy meadow]

I'm probably missing something

[violet light]

No it isn't

[silver spoke]

spells

[violet light]

Phase 4 is the worst

[fiery iron]

No no the platform phase

[silver spoke]

yes the platform phase

[fiery iron]

Nah there's a mixup here for sure

[silver spoke]

it gives you free attacks specially if you have any amount of soul

[foggy meadow]

eh to be fair the platform phase you should play really slowly

and I played it very aggressively

so that is probably why I was finding it crappy

I mostly just disliked that she can sit far away from you for long periods of time

[silver spoke]

2nd phase is by far the hardest

[foggy meadow]

like keeps teleporting away

[foggy meadow]

I found it more consistent than Phase 4 so I preferred it

but idk

[fiery iron]

There's like a few instances where you can burn down absrad in like 15 seconds in phase 4 and if you don't get that rng it takes 10x longer

[silver spoke]

it teleports away then does 1 attack and then teleports straight to your nail

[foggy meadow]

yeah thats how it felt for me

[fiery iron]

No no just wait before making your decision

I saw what you said

There's still ways to go about this decision

[violet light]

She is suffering

[silver spoke]

actually spare her

[fiery iron]

If you get the true ending and kill the radiance she's free

[violet light]

She must have her suffering end

[fiery iron]

She won't be infected and she can live her normal life once again

[violet light]

Don't they turn into instinct-driven beasts?

[silver spoke]

.... do you know the amount of pain and suffering that would be

[violet light]

It'd be a path full of pain

[fiery iron]

We don't know what happens but it should clear up her mind

Let her live!

[tacit spear]

Hi li ^_^

[fiery iron]

She deserves it!

[silver spoke]

corniest joke ever

[fiery iron]

She deserves it!

[violet light]

Hi Opal!

[foggy meadow]

just do what you want

[tacit spear]

How is everybody?

[copper spruce]

Explode

[sacred hull]

huh

[silver spoke]

PoP is overrated in difficulty its really not that hard

[foggy meadow]

its more tedious than hard

and figuring out how to do it

[silver spoke]

1st room was the hardest for me

[tacit spear]

For people who don't figure out the easy way to do it, it's painful ^_^

[silver spoke]

I did one of the jumps wrong

[brazen crater]

Am I the only one who always thought the colors and location of FotF had something to do with the Grimm Troupe? Even the image looks a bit similar to what they're all about (red flames)

[sacred hull]

the what

[violet light]

Fury

[foggy meadow]

do you have insight for Phase 4 then

[sacred hull]

oh

[foggy meadow]

since its what I hated most

[fiery iron]

Cough

[foggy meadow]

I just hated that she'd rarely ever come close to me so I had to go to her instead

[fiery iron]

Sk isn't allowed cough

[foggy meadow]

and when I did get close to her she teleports away

[brazen crater]

I meant fury of the fallen

[foggy meadow]

can melt her with Abyss Shriek but only if shes doing an attack that its safe to do so

[fiery iron]

Oh I thought of something else

[brazen crater]

i see what you mistook it for wink wink

[silver spoke]

phase 4 all you have to do is wait for abs rad to teleport to you then spam nail with quickslash then spam abyss shriek next time you get an ok teleport then repeat should be at staircase after like doing that twice

[real otter]

?tag ontopic

[idle belfry]

keep sequel topics to the sequel channels #sk-help #sk-lore #sk-discussion

[foggy meadow]

fair

[foggy meadow]

they're talking about fury of the fallen bruh

[fiery iron]

Me when I don't read chat

[foggy meadow]

I suck at dealing with the orbs in phase 4

otherwise I'm usually fine

[silver spoke]

they said grimtroupe tf

[real otter]

I read half of chat 💔

[fiery iron]

Clearly didn't if you had to ontopic

Didn't read enough!

Read more!

[foggy meadow]

when I type apparently its an essay

so

[silver spoke]

if the orbs go above and around they have the worst turning radius ever then you just have to make it so they do that

[foggy meadow]

can they destroy themselves on the platforms cuz it feels inconsistent

[brazen crater]

Me when I want to ask a simple question and no one reads

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-bob-sponge-spongebob-cry-sad-gif-25905087

[real otter]

I read half of chat assumed it was a silksong spoiler and then got angry

[silver spoke]

yeah thats the entire point

[fiery iron]

Got angry like FotF

[real otter]

fury of tje fallen isnt related to the grimm troupe at all

[foggy meadow]

its red

grimm is red

confirmed hornet is grimm

[violet light]

I know who you are. I know what you want to do to me.

[fiery iron]

What if he's friendly tho

[violet light]

It was the fake one

In crystal peak

[spiral vault]

Diddyblud grub

[fiery iron]

Mm

[silver spoke]

how to test if your grub is real buy the dreamnail for $5.99 20% off from normal price.

[brazen crater]

Probably isn't. Ever since I saw it though I just had weird speculations of it since

• it's in a location close to where you summon the troupe
• it's icon has colors that are pretty closely associated
• it's main color is red and increases attack, just like how flames increase the power of the troupe

[fiery iron]

There should be a mod where grubs and fake grubs are randomly shuffled and their dream dialogue is removed so you never know if a grub is real or not

[inland pagoda]

i didn’t even realize you could do that until i got the last grub i needed, the one in deepnest

[violet light]

I think I found satan

[spiral vault]

It really isnt close to the troupe tho

[inland pagoda]

you did

[nimble trench]

cant wait for hollow knight grub randomizer

[silver spoke]

it kind of is

[spiral vault]

Lots of red in hallownest too

[silver spoke]

its one map away

[brazen crater]

what if the mimics you found actually got saved after you kill them and when you visit grubfather you see the mimics

[real otter]

i’m fairly certain it’s the combined rage of all of those who died in hallownest such as the vessels

i could be wrong tho

[spiral vault]

Maybe we have different definitions of close

[sacred hull]

how about a mod where grubs can randomly turn into bosses

[spiral vault]

Mine is right ofc

[sacred hull]

pv jumpscare

[brazen crater]

😡

[maiden echo]

Fury of the fallen came out before the conception of the Grimm troupe

[spiral vault]

And that

[maiden echo]

They had not existed yet

[brazen crater]

don't worry guys

[violet light]

How I feel after the random grub I saved turns into the sun

[brazen crater]

my fury has fallen already

[spiral vault]

And fury doesnt even really look grim like

[maiden echo]

Likely had barely been given thought since there were many ideas for the four content packs originally

[violet light]

Six masks! (and 2000 less geo)

[spiral vault]

Hornet DLC soon

[silver spoke]

I could kinda see the resemblance

[maiden echo]

Yeah when are we getting that what the heck team cherry

[fiery iron]

To collect a grub you must beat p5 every time

[spiral vault]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-shut-up-stfu-sybau-gif-1100634295155223092

[sacred hull]

what is he saying

[violet light]

Every grub summons godseeker and forces you to fight p5 and if you die your save is wiped

[real otter]

btw guys i finally got 112%

[maiden echo]

Is it bad I can name every skin in that image

Gif

.gif

[brazen crater]

Congrats

[violet light]

Peak!

[spiral vault]

If you were tapped in you would know

[real otter]

maybe

[copper spruce]

No you didn't

[real otter]

thx

[fiery iron]

Every time you beat p5 there's an additional 100 health to everything for the next p5

[real otter]

thx

[real otter]

what

[spiral vault]

Hes saying " happy Thanksgiving I wish you a blessed Thanksgiving 😭 "

[sacred hull]

im distracted by the fact that his nostrils take up 20% of the image

[willow cave]

uumuu sucks bruh winged nosk 3 hp is cooked

[silver spoke]

p5 but every time you ask someone if they want to do p5 they can double it andgive it to the next person

[brazen crater]

https://tenor.com/view/emo-gif-1771696518054862294

[violet light]

Myla's day of reckoning has come

[foggy meadow]

Grub are caterpillars
Sometimes caterpillars turn into moths
Radiance is a moth
Grubmother final boss????

[silver spoke]

uumuu base game is so much worse then in the pantheons

quirrel is the slowest guy on earth

[brazen crater]

striking resemblance to gruz mother

[foggy meadow]

Just boring since you're not in control

[fiery iron]

Do you want to beat p5 2 billion times or double it and give it to the next person

[foggy meadow]

Though in pantheons you can get bad rng

[brazen crater]

maybe gruz mother is the final boss of p6

[silver spoke]

ill do it

jk double it

[fiery iron]

Ok

[violet light]

Should I go fight broken vessel? 🤔

[spiral vault]

Idk

[fiery iron]

Ok hold on I'll start this

[foggy meadow]

Well he is easy especially with Steady Body since you can just run at him and slash

And D.Dark nullifies most of his attacks

[violet light]

Ooo I forgot about steady body

[fiery iron]

Ok sir do you want to beat p5 once or double it and give it to the next person

[keen thorn]

With overworld Uumuu, you can time the pops by knowing quirell cycles

[silver spoke]

double it

[violet light]

I don't have that yet

[silver spoke]

here is a flashbang

[foggy meadow]

Get it as soon as you can

[fiery iron]

I shall

[keen thorn]

In godhome as well with the oomas being in your control

[foggy meadow]

Huge carry imo

[violet light]

Where is ddark again?

In queen's garden?

[keen thorn]

But unlike ow, you can choose to not pop Uumuu in gh

[foggy meadow]

Crystal Peak

[fiery iron]

Sir would you like to beat p5 twice or double it and give it to the next person

[nimble trench]

uumuu in pantheons is fine UNLESS youre doing radiant
this can honestly be said for every boss that sucks to radiant

[violet light]

Oh ok

[silver spoke]

which is every boss

your point is completely invalid

[foggy meadow]

I mean I'll probably beat it twice eventually

[maiden echo]

Radiant is not in pantheons

[nimble trench]

false there are several bosses that are fun to radiant

[copper spruce]

oomas?

[spiral vault]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-shocked-shock-shocked-meme-gif-8910406893424234862

[copper spruce]

isn't that the horse girls people simp over nowadays?

[fiery iron]

Is that a yes or a double it!

[copper spruce]

[foggy meadow]

NKG and PV come to mind

[silver spoke]

besides NKG that is light work

[foggy meadow]

Idk double it

[fiery iron]

Alright good!

[nimble trench]

radiant p5 is entirely a thing but yes if you want to be semantic i meant godhome as a whole

[keen thorn]

Like Markoth and GPZ

[brazen crater]

I feel like I hear no one talk about Oblobbles radiant

[copper spruce]

explode

[nimble trench]

doesnt change anything i said though

[keen thorn]

And absrad

[maiden echo]

I thought that's what you meant my bad

[foggy meadow]

Markoth and GPZ being back to back is horrid

[fiery iron]

Sir would you like to beat p5 four times or double it and give it to the next person

[primal fossil]

[brazen crater]

It doesn't seem too bad if you play safe but the second phase spam is insane

[maiden echo]

I wasn't being serious tbh and yeah you're right, although I personally didn't have TOO much trouble just it was annoying