hk-discussion

[keen thorn]

Flying enemies move faster
AbsRad swords move faster as well
Collisions are handled differently (stall ball is a result)
Bugs happen at different rates (instashaw for example)
Shriek hit 4 acts more weirdly and has a chance to not hit all hits just because
And a lot of others I don't know

[foggy sable]

left facing shrieks are more likely to push enemies out of reach

[keen thorn]

But also anything under 50fps is not playable since physics are rendered at 50fps

So you're skipping physics frames on your visual ques which is bad

[copper spruce]

So are you supposed to play at like

59 fps

[keen thorn]

Also in general the game flows much faster and it's easier in the eyes at higher fps

[copper spruce]

Oh 144

[keen thorn]

149 iirc

Or 144

[copper spruce]

My gaming laptop does 144

[foggy sable]

I was recommended 249

[keen thorn]

Numbers ending in 4 and 9 are better for shriek consistency

Don't ask why

[foggy sable]

but only the last number matters

[copper spruce]

How do i steal someone else's gaming rig

[foggy sable]

for shrieks

[dreamy girder]

come to my house

[carmine lava]

genio this strat sucks

it literally doesn't work

[copper spruce]

Wonder what happens when you play the game at higher fps

Than 240 or something

[foggy sable]

not much different

[copper spruce]

Hitscan absrad swords

Oh i see

Interestingly nonetheless

[foggy sable]

I mean this is 249 fps absrad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31LRfIe8Alg

[zealous skiff]

wait i have a question, ive been playig on vsync the entire time. Is that like bad? Should I fps cap

[copper spruce]

I'm gonna bounce for a bit to help record for my class

Bye

[foggy sable]

if you care about the shriek thing cap fps

[zealous skiff]

alr bye

[foggy sable]

but it doesn't really matter

[zealous skiff]

i was more wondering about delay

[foggy sable]

oh, idk

[real otter]

@spiral vault shit this how we gonna end up??

[zealous skiff]

i like how shriek works with my current fps so im chill

[keen thorn]

I checked my video only in phase 3 I got jumps rather than runs when I didn't expect it. But apparently I just took them like normal and continued

For phase 1 and 2 the runs work absolutely no issue and trivialize half the time

The other half is setting up the runs

https://youtu.be/KYQOhYBvQdg?si=paPxpf-d3YY2rz0a

[carmine lava]

wow it's so consistent

second half of the video probably shows it better

[keen thorn]

You didn't get out in time

[acoustic steppe]

How do i walk in hk?

[carmine lava]

didn't you say i can get a full cyclone

[keen thorn]

Ok the second one yeah

[worn hamlet]

yay more nail binding p5 attempts

[carmine lava]

yeah no this is just gonna make the fight take 10 minutes

[keen thorn]

Well you're also not engaging with the boss whatsoever between runs

You can get slashes between jump slams

[carmine lava]

?

[keen thorn]

And cyclones after a jump preceded by slams if needed

[carmine lava]

i'm not trying to react to it

i'm assuming that it doesn't happen

[keen thorn]

I see you running a lot just with cyclone

[carmine lava]

yeah?

[zealous skiff]

you dont do only ai cheese or no ai cheese. its like you do a lot of the fight normally but ai cheese is an option

[keen thorn]

Yeah exactly

Ai cheese is not disengaging the boss and only cheesing

It's something you do to remove a threat

You want to do it often but it's not the only thing

[carmine lava]

i don't understand when to do it then

[keen thorn]

You go from 02 to 14 without touching the boss even tho you were close

[keen thorn]

Play like normal, but try to do the cheese whenever the boss lets you
Watch my video

When you have the open lane and the boss is shockwave slamming is when you go for it

Cancels the slams, gets a predictable jump and nullifies the rocks you'd get

[carmine lava]

i don't understand

[keen thorn]

Also you try to set up the run with the boss just being idle you need the boss engaging in an attack otherwise he will just jump. That's why shockwave slam is the best

[zealous skiff]

if you have alr reached final p-hase without cheese it might be worth not worrying about ti

[keen thorn]

And why you're getting too many jumps

[carmine lava]

this seems like too much of a strategy change to be worth it

[keen thorn]

Yeah ig, but it does make a big difference if you do it correctly

[zealous skiff]

maybe an fps thing as well

like maybe quantum's fps might just make it less consistent

idk

[keen thorn]

Just. Play like normal, but when you see shockwave slam and he's near a wall, instead of waiting for him to jump, you do the cheese for a good jump

[keen thorn]

No he's just not doing it correctly. I don't think he's understanding what we're trying to say.
His mistake is that he's going for it when it's not doable, the boss is just idle.

Although idk if this is a me issue rn because I'm really tired and just want to sleep

I think it's best if I just go to sleep

But qq, try watching my video it may clear things up

Pay attention at WHEN I do the cheese

[zealous skiff]

theres no point forcing a strat on someone for whom it clearly isnt working, regardless of reason

[keen thorn]

The point is at least giving it a try with the proper execution

Rn I did make the mistake of just assuming he knows everything I do

And got derailed just hating on the strat because of how disappointing I found it

Lol

So a big part of this is on me

I think it's just best if I go sleep as I said so

[zealous skiff]

i dont think he's hating i think quantum is just frustrated cus it isnt working for him and you are beng really insistent on it

alr gn

[keen thorn]

No I got derailed

[keen thorn]

Yeah, the video cleared everything up for me. I was being insistant because I extremely stupidly assumed he just knew how to use it

After watching I understand I was thinking of myself only and not really helping that way but at this point I think I just frustrated him way too much to try to teach him

[shrewd nymph]

Is this r04 fc?

[keen thorn]

Ye

[zealous skiff]

yup

[zealous skiff]

don't go too hard on yourself

[shrewd nymph]

taking screenshots for later

[worn hamlet]

:o

[keen thorn]

Well it is my fault and I'll apologize to qq tomorrow when I can

[zealous skiff]

it wasn't a stupid assumption its an assumption thats difficult to notice, I recommend just going to sleep cus you are going to wake up in a way better mood

[carmine lava]

half hop

[zealous skiff]

rip

[keen thorn]

Oh hello qq

[carmine lava]

idk why you said your strat makes half hops not happen lol

[keen thorn]

First I wanted to say sorry, part of your confusion is just my fault

When I heard of the strat I just wrongly assumed you had my knowledge

[shrewd nymph]

Apologising in hkmain is foreign

[keen thorn]

Which is not a way to help

All the glazing is with the right knowledge which idk where I got, but the fact that I just have it is what clouded my vision so sorry qq

I don't think I'm on a spot to properly teach you rn even if you wanted

So you should keep doing the normal way if you want

If you want to try again I can try a new approach to explaining tho

Cathug

[carmine lava]

all i care about is that you said this removes half hops and i still got one

[keen thorn]

Well the idea is that half hops are most threatening after a shockwave slam

Ai cheese is the counter to shockwave slam

So you heavily reduce their threat

[shrewd nymph]

As in forcing him to jump?

[keen thorn]

Yes

[worn hamlet]

I just realized I accidentally memorized a safe spot for the continuous blob attack of broken vessel

funny

[keen thorn]

That's interesting

[worn hamlet]

tbh I thought there wasn't one for the entire time I've been fighting it

[quick cave]

Gonna try p5 when i get home

Ignore my name btw

[carmine lava]

wait shoot i can catch my first firmament stream in like a year let's go

[keen thorn]

A what

[carmine lava]

p5ab speedrunner among other things

he has the wr on 1424

[quick cave]

My name is normal

[keen thorn]

Ah nice

[carmine lava]

28:59

[keen thorn]

Anyways, I won't bother you for now. If tomorrow once we're both fresh I can try to help you properly and not acting like an elitist which is pretty much what I did.

And you should probably take a break for now and watch your stream lol

Meanwhile I'm going to sleep

[carmine lava]

i mean i don't really care i just would have preferred you explained your strat better at first lol

also the fact that it doesn't remove half hops but makes them less likely

[keen thorn]

Yeah I exaggerated or skipped on "trivial knowledge"
Which is exactly what an elitist would do...

I just got kinda carried away

I was not being helpful

[keen thorn]

But yeah, this should be a win anyways lol

But well that's enough, I do need to rest

[copper spruce]

Sleep

[carmine lava]

good night

[real otter]

I died to nkg in p5

[keen thorn]

[real otter]

AGHHHH

[copper spruce]

Good night

[keen thorn]

[real otter]

I JUST WANNA FIGHT ABS RAD

[shrewd nymph]

Rip

[dreamy girder]

hall of gods

[worn hamlet]

I just beat grimm in p5

I wanna get past the filler already

[real otter]

ik but I didn’t bother practicing cus I just wanted to fight abs rad

[dreamy girder]

well thats your mistake isnt it

[real otter]

then you have to fight markoth gpz false knight and then nkg in a row

[dreamy girder]

i thought u had p5???

[real otter]

yeah

[worn hamlet]

p5 nail binding :D

going for weathered mask rn

[dreamy girder]

oh

nail binding by itself is really easy ure good

[boreal hollow]

Hi chat

[worn hamlet]

ive been thru 5 attempts rn and it isn't fun tbh

[boreal hollow]

it is i, spell twister

[copper spruce]

Ok recording is done

[carmine lava]

@zealous skiff honestly i feel like fc would be the most threatening boss in 045 now lol

[copper spruce]

I'm free now

[carmine lava]

although i guess he does have less health at least

but still

[real otter]

it’s not fun till you get to the last bit I wish p5 was just the last like 10 bosses

[copper spruce]

Oh wait nvm

There's a second vid

[worn hamlet]

frrr

[copper spruce]

I'm not free

[worn hamlet]

damn

[zealous skiff]

yuh cus you have no soul to heal

[worn hamlet]

taken out of context this would be such a crazy insult

[quick cave]

I love the pale king

[obsidian bramble]

hii

[worn hamlet]

ugh healed at the wrong time on sly and died

[worn hamlet]

hoii

[obsidian bramble]

i just started the game but my character is blue not red when do i get the red one

[worn hamlet]

what game?

[obsidian bramble]

hollow knight

[worn hamlet]

ur character...is blue?

[obsidian bramble]

yes blue and white

i want red and white

[worn hamlet]

I think u might be color blind tbh

[dreamy girder]

why r u dying though

[obsidian bramble]

rude 🙁

[boreal hollow]

What r u talking about

[worn hamlet]

dumb mistakes on markoth, gpz and winged nosk

[worn hamlet]

the color of tk

[obsidian bramble]

my main character

[worn hamlet]

mb ._.

[boreal hollow]

the cape is blue-gray so it counts as blue

[obsidian bramble]

i saw the video there it was a red dress now it’s blue in the game

[worn hamlet]

ig so

[worn hamlet]

most likely it was a mod

[dreamy girder]

gpz is the only one of those three that is understandable

sounds like you gotta practice the other two in hogs if youre dying to them

[worn hamlet]

my gpz is usually better than my markoth

soo

[worn hamlet]

ye I prolly should

[dreamy girder]

as for gpz, you gotta get there full health and you basically won in p5 (even with nail binding)

if you cant, then thats when you gotta be actually good at the boss

for which you also should practice in hogs

[worn hamlet]

no im good at gpz, I just get to gpz with like 3 masks after markoth

that's my issue

I can't do gpz on 3 masks ._.

maybe on like 5 or 7

[dreamy girder]

markoth practice then

[worn hamlet]

yepp

[foggy sable]

do you heal in the shield spin window in markoth?

[worn hamlet]

not excited for that ._.

[worn hamlet]

no I attack at that spot

I save my soul for phase 2 to skip it

[foggy sable]

I see

well that is the best plan if you can pull off the skip

[worn hamlet]

tbh playing the game with audio helped me do p4 bindings

I should prolly play with audio again

[worn hamlet]

yepp

[quick cave]

Hey who took this screenshot of me and posted it to a different server

[rapid bridge]

im gonna do that

[quick cave]

NO

[quick cave]

Huh wonder who that is?

[fair osprey]

oh my fucking God never again

i just beat p5 all bindings

[carmine lava]

gg

[fair osprey]

this took way too long

[foggy sable]

gg

[quick cave]

Path of pain

[boreal hollow]

Take that

what is this

[real otter]

thank you very much

[dreamy girder]

im not sure why y'all are doing ts but yea

[real otter]

mine thanks

[fresh isle]

no spam thanks

[dreamy girder]

eloki

[real otter]

who’s infinity

I am the modless pc player 😭

parry???

oh

when you slash at the same time

and you hit each other

[fresh prism]

https://tenor.com/view/spam-gif-10811817447080815426

[real otter]

yeah

[dreamy girder]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-meme-mods-gif-14385308006689816010

woah radiant infinity

how come i didnt even know u

[quick cave]

HOW DO YOU THINK I FEEL YOU COMPRESSED ME

[dreamy girder]

good

there can only be one they/them in this chat

and thats ME

[quick cave]

Is this caused by any underlying issues at home?

[dreamy girder]

it is called a joke there is no need for you to project on me

although i understand how that could make you feel better

[quick cave]

throws away my clipboard dammit

[real otter]

shit that was cool

[dreamy girder]

ohhh its cuz radiant pv

right

[real otter]

I might have to get mods at some point

I can alr tell this is the hardest boss in the game

[rapid bridge]

hi

[real otter]

holy hell you radianted that shit?

[real otter]

hai

[dreamy girder]

no bro

[rapid bridge]

what does it do

[dreamy girder]

sunset samsara 2.0 exists

also the anyrad bosses

but those are dogshit

[rapid bridge]

ddi you see

the thing

[real otter]

what thing

[dreamy girder]

did u play sunset samsara

its an actually well done radiance mod

[rapid bridge]

radiant pv

[dreamy girder]

hard as fuck though

[real otter]

nope

[rapid bridge]

oh wait there are 2 ppl caled noskin it

dbabsb

[real otter]

we both be noskin it

[dreamy girder]

yeah one of them is really stupid the other isnt

@real otter ure the one who isnt btw

[real otter]

aw I still want to fight pv

[rapid bridge]

yeah the stupid one told me to do radiant pv

[real otter]

thanks

[dreamy girder]

the stupid one is sadly my best friend

life is so cruel

[rapid bridge]

damn

[dreamy girder]

also u told me ud be a great friend and greet me which u havent

[rapid bridge]

i said hi to everyone

[sudden ravine]

I’m so happy I have both of the remaining dreamers available.

[rapid bridge]

or did i?

[dreamy girder]

no

[dreamy girder]

im happy ure happy

[rapid bridge]

idk im so tired its 6 in the morning and im already pissed bc school

sorry

hi

[dreamy girder]

hi

[dreamy girder]

fair ig

[rapid bridge]

which ones

[dense fjord]

I hope it goes well :3

[sudden ravine]

||Lurien and Monomon.||

[dreamy girder]

no need for spoiler tags here b tw

only in hkhelp

[sudden ravine]

Oh great!

[dreamy girder]

yup

[sudden ravine]

LURIEN AND MONOMON BOISSSSS

[real otter]

what is the lag dude

hm

[sudden ravine]

I’m free from all the times of forgetting spoilers!!!!

[real otter]

acceptable

[dreamy girder]

i have no lag nearly

[sudden ravine]

Same, I think.

[dreamy girder]

hows the game goin

[real otter]

wait are you forced to fight infinity instead of pv in p4 and p5?

yeah

[dreamy girder]

nah, i have a good knowledge of a lot of modded bosses, but doing them is not actually my thing. the best thing i've done modwise was a really shitty anyrad 1.0 half dmg clear and an anyrad 1.0 platform phase

[sudden ravine]

Great, recently got Shade Soul, Shade Cloak, Lifeblood Core, beat Hornet Sentinel (obv) and Shape of Unn etc.

[real otter]

wait if pv is an empty vessel why do you get soul from it

[dreamy girder]

cuz hes not empty

[dense fjord]

Goated

[subtle glacier]

i know nothing about modded bosses

[real otter]

but it’s pure

[boreal hollow]

Hi choombert

[real otter]

interesting

[dense fjord]

Good enough, send him to anyrad 3.0 followed up with ancient aspid

[dreamy girder]

shade cloak is peak youll love it

[dreamy girder]

ehh fair given most of them suck, ive been thinking about doing pale court but it doesnt seem that fun

[sudden ravine]

All in one sitting btw.

[dreamy girder]

i think ill just play more deltarune

[subtle glacier]

have you tried aikg

[dreamy girder]

how much time itd take u?

[real otter]

binge playing

[subtle glacier]

that’s like the only one i’ve liked

[rapid bridge]

im boredd

i gotta

go to school in a sec

[sudden ravine]

I think my stream was 3 hours?

Idk

[dense fjord]

Good luck :D

[dreamy girder]

ive done ikg (sadly didnt record it) but not aikg cause im lazy

[subtle glacier]

aikg is so peak

[dense fjord]

Is platinum completion hard?

[rapid bridge]

whats ikg

[sudden ravine]

o7 🫡

[subtle glacier]

it’s like if nkg stopped being a boring little celery stick

[dreamy girder]

inferno king grimm, a modded boss that is the a bit easier version of aikg

[real otter]

nkg is fun though

[rapid bridge]

and whats aikg?

[subtle glacier]

but repetitive yk
his moveset isn’t dynamic

[dense fjord]

Oh is it just 63/63 achievements

[real otter]

yeah kinda

[rapid bridge]

dude i have more time and i havent beaten p5

[dreamy girder]

yeah now try having 250-300+ hours of playtime and having done nkg radiant like probably 100-so times

[subtle glacier]

https://youtu.be/g0UEzLFIp6s?si=I3UvC3ajYtJbpb1J

[foggy sable]

"fun" and hunters journal

[subtle glacier]

this shit is peak

[dreamy girder]

absolute inferno king grimm, the harder version of ikg

[dense fjord]

Ooooh didnt know, tysm

[boreal hollow]

junters journal🥀

[rapid bridge]

around the same for me

i just dont have like 2 achivements

[dreamy girder]

hows the pufferfish attack for u? ive had a friend complain that it was somewhat inconsistent

[foggy sable]

If I were about 3% more funny there would be a joke there somewhere

[boreal hollow]

Gas stove fire grimm

[dreamy girder]

very good progress then

[subtle glacier]

it has some randomness to it, but it’s not unreactable

[rapid bridge]

alr byeeeeeee

[sudden ravine]

Guys how many hours ya’ll got? I have 36.5 over 15 sittings.

[subtle glacier]

i’d say it’s very fair

[dreamy girder]

like 200+ or smth

[rapid bridge]

oh i forgot about ateel soul achivements

then i need like 5

[sudden ravine]

..damn

[rapid bridge]

oh and 100% 20 hours so 6

[copper spruce]

Only 78 hours

[subtle glacier]

and the pufferfish phase changes throughout the fight too, so it’s not always going to give you the same problems

[rapid bridge]

byeeerr

[dreamy girder]

ill keep that in mind, ill try doing it eventually probs cuz it doesnt look that bad and it does seem fun

[rapid bridge]

whats f4

OHHH

im stupid

[sudden ravine]

Ohhhh

[subtle glacier]

not only is it not bad, i can vouch for as it feeling like a vanilla boss

[boreal hollow]

Chat whats the optimal path for flower quest

[sudden ravine]

Nah dw I was confused too.

[rapid bridge]

byeeeeee

[subtle glacier]

fastest or safest

[dreamy girder]

the firebats attack (before he modifies it into the fireball throwing thingy) looks even easier than vanilla am i tripping

[boreal hollow]

safest

[subtle glacier]

going down into city and through city crest gate to fungal, fungal to fog canyon, qga to qg

[copper spruce]

Just kill all the mobs in the path then dont sit on the bench

[dreamy girder]

whats the difference

[real otter]

you make it look easy

[subtle glacier]

it’s slow af but not many enemies that way

[real otter]

peak though

[dreamy girder]

that happens with all bosses when someone who is really good at the boss does them

if ya wanna

[sudden ravine]

GUYS

GUESS WHAT

[dreamy girder]

hmm??

[sudden ravine]

idk…

Hehe

[dreamy girder]

so basically just a somewhat harder nkg id have to check that out when im bored

[dreamy girder]

silly boy

[sudden ravine]

That’s me.

[dreamy girder]

hehehehe nice

[sudden ravine]

[dreamy girder]

thats curious

[boreal hollow]

What r we talking about

[dreamy girder]

i cant imagine what is essentially base nkg being that bad even if faster and tighter windows

but maybe i js dont know yet

[dreamy girder]

modded stuff

[sudden ravine]

I should go to bed, it’s midnight for me.

[rich stone]

Which mod

[sudden ravine]

How do I get mods?

[dreamy girder]

lumafly launcher on pc

you can look it up on google

[sudden ravine]

Hmm

[dreamy girder]

but dont install any, youre on ur first playthrough still

[rich stone]

I have played very little of that mod

[dreamy girder]

finish the game how ure meant to finish it

install mods after that if u wanna

[sudden ravine]

Ik, I don’t want to tbh

NRN at least 😝

[dreamy girder]

probs for the best for now

[sudden ravine]

Finish game 112%, then mods.

[dreamy girder]

i js looked up a vid on absrad hallownest enhanced (havent found normal rad vid)

lemme see

[dreamy girder]

for sure!!!! do p5 as well if u feel u can after

[rapid bridge]

hii

[sudden ravine]

I’m planning to suck HK DRY before mods.

[rapid bridge]

im back

im at the

bus stop

[foggy sable]

wait what else does hk enhanced do?

is it just making the bosses faster?

[rapid bridge]

enchances hk

[foggy sable]

I'd figured

I'm figuring out if it is worth trying out

[naive sonnet]

is anyone here interested in nearing the good word of the radiance

[rapid bridge]

sure

[sudden ravine]

Uhhh nah not really..

[foggy sable]

well if it just made bosses faster it wouldn't be worth trying but if it does other things as well it might be

[naive sonnet]

oh wow i didn't think i'd get this far

[foggy sable]

I think I can manage that

[quick cave]

There's only 27 radiance lovers? Where are the other 3?

[naive sonnet]

no there's like 100

[rapid bridge]

i need radiance in a maid costume bro

[quick cave]

Well i love the pale wyrm more

[dreamy girder]

@meager terrace ok so i watched absrad and its... okayish. it feels really lazy given its just base absrad but faster and with more swords on the sword circle (besides the parallel vertical sword walls, which is used in pretty much every rad mod)

attuned hk enhanced absrad... doesnt look that bad honestly or at least not for what im used to

but it doesnt look fun

[naive sonnet]

i want the wyrm and everyone connected to him dead he's so terrible he's below even my pathetically low standards

[quick cave]

Die

[dreamy girder]

cute

[naive sonnet]

i'd even have ogrim killed for it

[quick cave]

https://tenor.com/view/thy-end-is-now-gif-18153971514165038770

[naive sonnet]

and i would delight it in knowing the monster he supports

[dreamy girder]

fosho

[fringe coral]

i hate markoth sm

[rapid bridge]

fr

[dreamy girder]

bro 😭

[real otter]

give me grimm in a maid outfit now!!!

[fringe coral]

took a break to do hw i havent been on this for that long

[foggy sable]

I kinda want to try anyrad ngl

[quick cave]

If you kill ogrim I'll shoot the radiance

[rapid bridge]

i only have these 3 that i sent a whilenago

[faint nexus]

I FUCKED MARCOT

[fringe coral]

2 hours tho :(

[quick cave]

QHAT

[fringe coral]

fuckkkk this guy

[rapid bridge]

i dont gave grimm

[naive sonnet]

i want the radiance to put me in a maid outfit

[dreamy girder]

you still got like an hour left

[quick cave]

Come forth child of moth and die

[dreamy girder]

femboy @naive sonnet is a new one

[sudden ravine]

Die

[real otter]

GIVE ME GRIMM

[faint nexus]

WHAT THE FUCK PUT HIM AT THE END OF THE FIFTH PANTEON

[rapid bridge]

how was it?

[naive sonnet]

she's a god that will do literally nothing more than likely

[fringe coral]

i love this guy spawning his nails outside of view in the fucking wall

[dreamy girder]

really good

[fringe coral]

so cute!

[rapid bridge]

who

[real otter]

markoth is not that bad

I 2 hit him in p5

[dreamy girder]

he is cute though

[real otter]

fr

[sudden ravine]

Who’s ogrim?

[dreamy girder]

yeah its lazy

[rapid bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/markoth-radiant-fight-blender-gif-5357782612914025602

[naive sonnet]

real name of the dung defender

[faint nexus]

I hate him

[sudden ravine]

Ohhhh

[fringe coral]

hed be cuter if he stopped fucking killing me

[quick cave]

SHIT ITS MARKOTH

[sudden ravine]

WE LOVE OGRIM

[quick cave]

FUUUUUUUUUUCJ

[noble moat]

Frfr

[dense fjord]

Banished the grimm troupe :D

[rapid bridge]

why

[noble moat]

Why.

[sudden ravine]

Fr

[noble moat]

Dung is shit?

[zealous skiff]

04r done lfg

[rapid bridge]

yay the bus is not overpopulated and i have a spot to sit:3

[sudden ravine]

Yes

[naive sonnet]

this isn't a normal thing the radiance just makes me think very differently

[noble moat]

Does the white defender also throw shit at you?

[rapid bridge]

clean shit

[sudden ravine]

Pretty sure

[quick cave]

I died

[sudden ravine]

Fr

[rapid bridge]

nuuu

[quick cave]

I fucking died

[noble moat]

How is shit supposed to be clean

[naive sonnet]

and yet the most disgusting thing about him is his allegiances

[rapid bridge]

its white

[quick cave]

THE MOTH IS WORSE

[rapid bridge]

smells like

white

[noble moat]

Wait what

[sudden ravine]

Don’t question it.

[rapid bridge]

white as in white

[dense fjord]

Achievement + i can fight nkg in godhome + nymm can chill with me in dirtmouth

[rapid bridge]

not the color

just

[real otter]

I’d love to imagine someone taking a shit in the city and just hearing AIIII THUNDERRRR from the toilet

[rapid bridge]

white

[dreamy girder]

what about me

[naive sonnet]

the radiance is perfect

[rapid bridge]

doma doma

[naive sonnet]

what

[dense fjord]

Thats what 2nd save file is for

[dreamy girder]

do i make you think differently

[rapid bridge]

gg

[dreamy girder]

context?

r04 right?

[zealous skiff]

04r

[real otter]

niceee

[naive sonnet]

in the exact opposite way that radiamce does but yes

[dreamy girder]

got gpz done i see, congrats

[dreamy girder]

opposites are often very close

[rapid bridge]

radiant all bindings old nail whit espells

[tulip narwhal]

Oh ma godd

[dreamy girder]

@zealous skiff you explain it

[rapid bridge]

and somsthing idk

[tulip narwhal]

Good job chjomp

[sudden ravine]

What is any of this lingo…

[zealous skiff]

old nail white spells all bindings

[real otter]

we love chjomp

[quick cave]

Insolent moth lover

[zealous skiff]

thank you flog

[dense fjord]

Why did i JUST get the white defender achievement 😭 i beat him last night

[rapid bridge]

oh so i was right

[zealous skiff]

sorry I beat 04r before i could stream gpz

[carmine lava]

i finally beat 04r fc

[real otter]

@tulip narwhal can I be forever remembered?

[carmine lava]

i never have to play this garbage again

[rapid bridge]

no idea

[zealous skiff]

GG

[tulip narwhal]

no

[zealous skiff]

its over

[dreamy girder]

how long was the clear

[zealous skiff]

worst boss out of the way

[real otter]

😭

why not

[zealous skiff]

its fun when you first try shit

and collector

[carmine lava]

that might be the longest a boss took me

[naive sonnet]

the radiance is the savior of hallownest
the pale worm was its destroyer

[rapid bridge]

whats fc

[tulip narwhal]

U js cant

[carmine lava]

failed champion

[zealous skiff]

everything else is going to be downhill in difficulty from here

[rapid bridge]

fucking child?

[carmine lava]

i'll check

[zealous skiff]

/uphill in enjoyment

[real otter]

😭

[dreamy girder]

aight

[carmine lava]

well i only have absrad now lol

[real otter]

worst day of my life

[quick cave]

You forgot she made the infection her tribe left willingly if they left willingly is she really that perfect

[sudden ravine]

What boss?

[fringe coral]

i hate markoth

[rapid bridge]

why

[tulip narwhal]

Absrad is surely fun

[fringe coral]

people who like this boss are lying

[real otter]

@tulip narwhal won’t remember me

[vale hamlet]

Sk

[foggy sable]

04r absrad is great fun

[dreamy girder]

?tag ontopic

[rapid bridge]

#sk-discussion

[idle belfry]

keep sequel topics to the sequel channels #sk-help #sk-lore #sk-discussion

[real otter]

?tag ontopic

[idle belfry]

keep sequel topics to the sequel channels #sk-help #sk-lore #sk-discussion

[zealous skiff]

oh that shouldnt be too bad, I recommend practicing plats a bit tho

[carmine lava]

failed champion in old nail white spells all bindings radiant hall of gods

[sudden ravine]

#sk-discussion

[dreamy girder]

woah buddy no copycatting

[naive sonnet]

i severely doubt they left fully willingly given pk's track record of eradicating cultures

[real otter]

damn it you beat me to it

[zealous skiff]

cus it plays differently to regular radaint, cus chasing is less safe and you can safety ddark as much due to soul binding

[sudden ravine]

Dang

[dreamy girder]

hehe

[real otter]

delete dis

[rapid bridge]

@nova nova

give

progressiv roxk

rock

[zealous skiff]

that worst part is in 04r, like 80% of your damage is spells, except with fc since he doesnt give soul shit just takes so much longer

and rocks and empty hops

[dreamy girder]

let it slide, you can tell they arent the brightest by looking at their profile

[sudden ravine]

Damn, and you said radiant right?

[quick cave]

Both of them are bad but the pk is still better why not be content with her godseekers which worship her

[real otter]

look at that bio dude

[zealous skiff]

yup thats what the "r" in 04r stands for

[dreamy girder]

the entire profile just screams stupidity

[rapid bridge]

onimai fan

[real otter]

fr

[carmine lava]

less than 6.5 minutes

[sudden ravine]

NO REALLY!?

[naive sonnet]

the godseekers live a happy life under her

[severe kiln]

my friend is trying to convince me the wither is a shade

[quick cave]

And worship her replacing most of the tribe that left

[dreamy girder]

sounds like a decently good time, how long itd take you to actually beat it?

[naive sonnet]

and i want to as wrll

[zealous skiff]

forgot to say but ty

[dreamy girder]

nahhh you aint welcome anymore buddy too late /j

[sudden ravine]

Alr gonna go to bed it’s almost 1 am bye everyone!!

[zealous skiff]

good i get to leave hkmain

[carmine lava]

uhhh idk, maybe like 3 hours or something

[dreamy girder]

buhbyee!!

[real otter]

bye

[naive sonnet]

i wanna be a moth and i wanna be the radiance's eternal servant as a part of that

[dreamy girder]

oh it couldnt have been that bad then

[carmine lava]

oh you finished gpz?

[zealous skiff]

thats impressive for your longest clear

[zealous skiff]

yup

[real otter]

Ima do radhog 112% and p5 all bindings before silksong cus I feel like making myself miserable :D

[carmine lava]

well longest of the like 7 i had left of which i've only done 6

lost kin took longer than that lol

[carmine lava]

nice

[dreamy girder]

...collector...

[foggy sable]

lost kin?

[zealous skiff]

ty

[carmine lava]

yes obviously collector took longer lol

[dreamy girder]

how long itd take u?

[carmine lava]

yeah

[zealous skiff]

oh ic

[zealous skiff]

i honestly get lost kin's diff

[carmine lava]

no clue

[zealous skiff]

empty hops and weird hitboxes tbh

[carmine lava]

well i did lost kin over 2 years ago

[foggy sable]

ah makes sense

[zealous skiff]

oh so you've improved a shitton since

[dreamy girder]

i was gonna do r04 collector decently soon then i discovered deltarune and decided i would not play hk ever again!!!!!!

[carmine lava]

almost 3 years ago actually

[dreamy girder]

tomorrow imma do deltarune secret bosses

im excited

[foggy sable]

04r collector isn't worth learning atm but someday

[real otter]

I decided to not get deltarune and get silksong isntead

[carmine lava]

it's not a good idea to start with 04r on collector

[real otter]

so I shall play it another time

[dreamy girder]

this chat is going to genuinely hate me but you messed up

[vale hamlet]

I also play deltarune

[real otter]

how am I messed up

[dreamy girder]

ehh i did the easier r04 bosses and r04 pv

[dreamy girder]

no, i mean that you messed up

you messed up by making the wrong purchase

[carmine lava]

it's collector...

and you have to be joking by bringing up pv

[real otter]

how did I mess up though I am hyping silksong

[dreamy girder]

sorta, it took me like 5 tries at most

[real otter]

and I loved hollow knight more than deltarune demo

so I figured silksong would be the same

[dreamy girder]

im a good player lmao

[foggy sable]

pv is sort of one of the easier ones

[carmine lava]

i don't understand how this is relevant to collector

[foggy sable]

because it plays the same as ab

[dreamy girder]

its not

i was literally just commenting

because you insisted on pv when i brought it up (mostly as a joke yes)

[zealous skiff]

i feel like 04r collector has to sort of be treated as a different challenge to the rest of 04r hog idk how to explain it

[carmine lava]

yes

[dreamy girder]

i agree, i felt nearly no difference except the length between rab and r04 for pv

[zealous skiff]

04rhog is really 2 challenges smooshed into 1

[carmine lava]

well i never thought that i would eventually only have 1 boss left in 04r hog

[zealous skiff]

it would be like if p5ab + r5 had a name.

[dreamy girder]

r5ab

[zealous skiff]

well you do now and its not failef champ

[thorn ruin]

04?

[zealous skiff]

no i mean seperately not both at once

[carmine lava]

p5ab 43 times and r5 once

[foggy sable]

it would be like "all acknowledged runs"

[zealous skiff]

yup

[tranquil mountain]

nail 0 (old nail) and 4 (all) bindings. oh and white spells

[zealous skiff]

what does that mean?

[noble moat]

No shit Sherlock

[dreamy girder]

hi

[carmine lava]

hi meteorcow

[foggy sable]

p5ab and r5 are both acknowledged within the game files

[fresh isle]

meteorcow :3

[carmine lava]

hi eloki

[tranquil mountain]

hello yall

[fresh isle]

hi

[real otter]

I don’t know who this is

[subtle glacier]

hi

[real otter]

I have never met you

[zealous skiff]

hi meteorcow hi eloki

[real otter]

hello

[noble moat]

NKg overated change my mind

[tranquil mountain]

im the anteater girl

[carmine lava]

meteorcow i have only 1 boss left in 04r hog now

[fresh isle]

hi choom

[zealous skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/otter-pet-pet-otter-otter-pet-superior-gif-22686837

[dreamy girder]

i wont change ur mind because i agree

[real otter]

thy end is now

[carmine lava]

i beat the miserable fc

[worn hamlet]

I prefer pv tbh

[noble moat]

Bring dich um

[tranquil mountain]

well its nice to meet you then

[subtle glacier]

how long is fc kill

[noble moat]

WAHR

[real otter]

hol on lemme get out my translater

[real otter]

nice to meet you too

[carmine lava]

mine is a bit over 6 minutes

[worn hamlet]

?

[noble moat]

Translate

[zealous skiff]

like 7-6 minutes

[noble moat]

It's german

[noble moat]

Whose fc

[subtle glacier]

tactical

[worn hamlet]

ah

[tranquil mountain]

good work, absrad?

[dreamy girder]

https://tenor.com/view/kris-deltarune-kris-deltarune-jumps-off-a-window-gif-4540704121162364979

[fresh isle]

english only please

[carmine lava]

yeah

[noble moat]

Nein

[dense fjord]

I have 110% yay

[worn hamlet]

failed champ

[carmine lava]

i have no clue how trashmedes mains this boss bruh

[zealous skiff]

oh ic yeah

[real otter]

true

[carmine lava]

trashmedes is kinda crazy

[noble moat]

How do terrorists feed their children

[tranquil mountain]

mains absrad?

[carmine lava]

fc

[tranquil mountain]

ohhh

[zealous skiff]

who is trashmedes and why tf fc

[worn hamlet]

im ngl if someone who spoke english didn't know what nein was I'd be a little bit concerned

[tranquil mountain]

trashmedes is so cool

[carmine lava]

trashmedes did i think, 1 nail damage itemless fc half rock damage?

i sent it in finkcord once

[tranquil mountain]

chomp doesnt know peak 😔

[noble moat]

Id say their gen z

[carmine lava]

chinese player

[real otter]

they don’t 💔

[worn hamlet]

im gen z and I know what nein is

[zealous skiff]

I dont 😭

[fresh isle]

itemless fc is so good though

[noble moat]

Good

[worn hamlet]

german is used in so many memes my gen knows what it is from that tbh

[carmine lava]

https://b23.tv/fwSLZ8m

[noble moat]

Here comes the airplane

And here comes the second one

[carmine lava]

wait the link doesn't work anymore

that's so sad

[subtle glacier]

holy new virus

[worn hamlet]

like this thing

[carmine lava]

true i definitely post viruses

[noble moat]

Isn't that

Yes

[worn hamlet]

it's just a spinning fish that turned into a meme

[noble moat]

MODS

[carmine lava]

bro has to hop on bilibili

[real otter]

killer fisch

[worn hamlet]

killer fisch?

[subtle glacier]

is the plural of virus vira

[real otter]

@Moredaters banish him to the 1st dimension

[subtle glacier]

viri

[noble moat]

What is 67

I genuinely do not know

[worn hamlet]

moredaters lmao

[carmine lava]

the average of 66 and 68

[real otter]

it’s funny for no reason

at least 69 had a reason to be funny…

[noble moat]

I thought it's the coolest prime bumber

[real otter]

R.I.P

[worn hamlet]

some basketball dude got clipped saying six seven while doing a funny hand motion

[carmine lava]

91 is my favorite prime number

[noble moat]

What hand motion

[worn hamlet]

then the younger generations started doing it in the hopes of getting clipped

[zealous skiff]

so true

[worn hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

this stupid thing

[worn hamlet]

and now it's a viral meme

[noble moat]

This world is cooked

[worn hamlet]

just like 69

[zealous skiff]

51 too

[noble moat]

And I'm going to cool it

[worn hamlet]

they don't usually make that strange ahh facial expression

[noble moat]

At least 69 had a good reason

[noble moat]

Devil worshiper ah face

[worn hamlet]

adult fun time isn't a good reason to turn a number into a meme ;-;

[worn hamlet]

fr

[real otter]

it is

[noble moat]

Who
Asked

[real otter]

plenty reason

[worn hamlet]

I did

[worn hamlet]

ima have to agree to disagree with 90% of society there

adult fun time mentions doesn't constitute funny to me tbh

[copper spruce]

Can't believe my eta is 6 to 7 pm

[carmine lava]

i am ready for something that will perhaps surpass the greatest amount of pain and suffering that i have experienced so far

[copper spruce]

[worn hamlet]

big range for an eta

[worn hamlet]

radabsrad

[copper spruce]

Yeah

[zealous skiff]

absrad wont be as bad trust me

actually idk

[carmine lava]

add old nail white spells all bindings

[random atlas]

AB no dash or jump allowed?

[worn hamlet]

wild

[copper spruce]

Hmm

[worn hamlet]

r04 absrad that is?

[copper spruce]

Depends ig

[carmine lava]

yes

[zealous skiff]

please practice plats tho like even 5 minutes of practice

[tranquil mountain]

youll clear it in like 2 days

[fresh isle]

just dive

[worn hamlet]

I could never

[copper spruce]

What does the r in r04 mean again

[worn hamlet]

radiant

[carmine lava]

i mean i'm gonna do a radiant ab clear first of all anyways

[copper spruce]

Bru

[zealous skiff]

this is how you do like every 04r boss ✅

[heavy barn]

you haven't done rab yet?

[worn hamlet]

o it's 04r

[zealous skiff]

ok yeah i think thatll be good

[worn hamlet]

whoops

[carmine lava]

genuinely i don't think i've ever even gotten to 04r absrad plats

[copper spruce]

These acronyms man

[worn hamlet]

fr

[copper spruce]

[carmine lava]

i can only hope lol

[worn hamlet]

has anyone ever done 04r p5

[carmine lava]

yeah a lot of people

wait

i missed the r

lol

[worn hamlet]

ye lol

[carmine lava]

1 person has done 04r p5

[worn hamlet]

damn

[fresh isle]

if u have the mechanics to do collector i think its like just mostly learning strats

[carmine lava]

a lot of people have done 04 p5

[worn hamlet]

what a goat

[zealous skiff]

just wljff?

[carmine lava]

yeah still just him

[worn hamlet]

absolute madman

[carmine lava]

after what will soon be 2 years

[zealous skiff]

crazy shit

[tranquil mountain]

is this not true for every boss?

[zealous skiff]

2 years ago!?!?!??!?!

thats nuts

[carmine lava]

well it's actually like

a good bit away from 2 years i think

[fresh isle]

i mean i guess yeah

[worn hamlet]

being the only person to complete a widely known of challenge for two years

[carmine lava]

i don't remember the exact date

[worn hamlet]

that's absolutely insane

[carmine lava]

but it was definitely over 1.5 years ago i think

[worn hamlet]

even just 1 year is absolutely ludicrous tbh

especially with a game that's still pretty alive like hk

[tranquil mountain]

ohh wait i was confused at the topic

[fresh isle]

yeah that run is so underrated too

[tranquil mountain]

i think i understand what you meant now

were you talking about a p5 run?

[carmine lava]

it's wjlff's most viewed video at least

[copper spruce]

Hk lore?

[carmine lava]

i think it has 655k views on bilibili, more than his r5ab in fact

[worn hamlet]

hk lore that's not inside of hk

[copper spruce]

Still counts

[tranquil mountain]

has anyone else attempted r045?

[zealous skiff]

im curious how consistent one would have to be at every boss. Like would the strat be getting collector to 1/10-20 consistency and just being 99/100 consistency at everything else or would it be getting collector to >1/2 consistency

[unkempt lion]

gen need a mod that js lets me change my charms w/o having to be on a bench ✌️

[worn hamlet]

oki lol

[unkempt lion]

for hk not silksong

[carmine lava]

i think just teano and maybe nimdac

i'm not confident in anyone else

[wind garnet]

me

[carmine lava]

or i don't really know of anyone else

[wind garnet]

i attempted it

died at vfk

[carmine lava]

but apparently someone named dango on bilibili has like

12 r5ab clears?

[zealous skiff]

good att thi

[carmine lava]

so they could probably do some attempts lol

[worn hamlet]

oo new pfp from suscat

[copper spruce]

Chatgpt gameplay

[worn hamlet]

fire

[copper spruce]

Suscar

Hi chomp

[fresh isle]

literally why 😭

[tranquil mountain]

wjlff prolly had collector at less than 1/10th, cuz hes a really good collector player in general

once you clear three phase r04 wont be so bad

[wind garnet]

nimdac has a few

[carmine lava]

aura farming

[zealous skiff]

three phase?

[zealous skiff]

hi misinfo

[carmine lava]

i remember i think you said he cleared some insane challenge in like 5 hours?

[worn hamlet]

anything past p5ab is just aura farming at that point

[worn hamlet]

like wasn't the r5 glow never supposed to have been in the game

[wind garnet]

p5ab nail only

[carmine lava]

r5ab

r5 is intended

[worn hamlet]

what the frick

what in the actual frick

[carmine lava]

intended is maybe not the best word but it's there on purpose

[worn hamlet]

I see

[carmine lava]

the game acknowledges if you've done r5 or not

[zealous skiff]

its still crazy just having to do 04r collector like however many minutes into the run and having to do another hour of gameplay hitless

[tranquil mountain]

one of the harder collector challenges, -14r, no movement abilities, 35hp minions

[worn hamlet]

so doing r5 and p5ab separately gets you the extra glow?

[zealous skiff]

whats 14r?

[tranquil mountain]

yeah for sure

[zealous skiff]

oh wait

[carmine lava]

yeah it's like 30-40 minutes into the run i think

[tranquil mountain]

-1, nail does 1dmg instead of 4

[copper spruce]

Bruh

[tranquil mountain]

all bindings white spells

[worn hamlet]

right?

[carmine lava]

it's 3 extra restricitions on top of 04r

[zealous skiff]

wtf

[carmine lava]

1 nail damage, no movement abilities no nail arts, and 35hp minions

[wind garnet]

now abbreviate it

[zealous skiff]

oh so he's insane

[tranquil mountain]

yeah hes top 2 collector player

[worn hamlet]

but not r5ab right? only p5ab and r5 separately correct?

[carmine lava]

at least 3 people have done that challenge by the way

[copper spruce]

Atp just do all that while your computer is overheating

[carmine lava]

maybe there's a 4th at this point idk

meteorcow do you remember turtle

[zealous skiff]

it makes sense that he's the one to do r045 then

[tranquil mountain]

of course i remember turtle

[zealous skiff]

p5ab overrides r5

[carmine lava]

yeah no r5ab

[worn hamlet]

damn

[zealous skiff]

because tc didnt know that r5 was harder

[tranquil mountain]

mintmoth is also one of the best

[carmine lava]

too much to type not gonna lie

[tranquil mountain]

this is why we just have names for collector challenges…

[carmine lava]

but i don't wanna be typing for 5 minutes straight

[wind garnet]

cant wait for ultra instinct collector

[carmine lava]

i already decided that her current challenge is purposeless collector

[worn hamlet]

why're there so many collector challenges

[wind garnet]

solid

[copper spruce]

Because people hate the collector

[zealous skiff]

because people like collector

[copper spruce]

And hate themselves

[worn hamlet]

isn't that a reason to have less challenges

[tranquil mountain]

tf is ultra instinct collector 😭

[fresh isle]

dumbmod collector

[worn hamlet]

oh

[carmine lava]

radiant collector 1 nail damage white spells all bindings no nail arts no movement abilties 35hp minions

[copper spruce]

It's masochism it doesn't have to make sense

[tranquil mountain]

thats what ima be grinding in the retirement home

[zealous skiff]

wait peak

[copper spruce]

[carmine lava]

what's dumbmod

[worn hamlet]

fair

[zealous skiff]

invisible enemies and/or particles

[worn hamlet]

anyways ima sleep chat is too fast rn

[carmine lava]

do i have a new mod to try with collector

bruh what

absolutely not

[copper spruce]

Collector just mails you a pipebomb

[vale hamlet]

Gn

[copper spruce]

I prefer having a life

I have enough shit to worry about besides impressing discord people

[wind garnet]

-14r ws only item 35hp min uncap minions

if you beg ill give you mantis claw 🙄

[carmine lava]

by ws only item don't you just mean nna nma

[wind garnet]

yeah but its the ONLY item

[copper spruce]

Mmm

[wind garnet]

so didnt feel like specifying that