for what category / route
#speedrunning
static umbra
u probably want to look in the speedrunning server for comsob sheets
also whats btt
static umbra
idk how super mario odyssey does it so ull have to elaborate on that. but for comsob u can just look on speedrunning server
sturdy glade
yeah we don't really say btt it's all just comsob
lofty flare
also whats btt
Battle tlock theater
velvet bluff
Battle tlock theater
Your username colour is really cool
sturdy glade
give the server money for it
worn oyster
guys
the little disgusting thingies right before flukemarm drop essense
could that be used in low% TE
agile breach
every enemy has a hance to dropping essence
chance*
hive is usually chosen bc of an enemy that spawns bees
bc too many bees spawn
the game kinda breaks
and u cant get hit in this room
sturdy glade
those are optimal for essence farming
but low te doesn't get dive so you can't do it there
hidden sundial
the little disgusting thingies right before flukemarm drop essense
No because Dive
fast marsh
I’m kinda getting into speedrunning any%
Wondering if anyone has any advice
I haven’t gotten past lurien yet bc I’m practicing the early segments first
Best time is lurien in 23 minutes
Having a lot of trouble with greenpath fireball skips so opted for squit pogo instead
Splits are:
Cloak in 9
Claw in 12
DN in 17
Lurien in 23
(For my best run)
Feel like I’m losing a lot of time on watchers bc I hv a skill issue and can’t pull off the fight with consistent fireball double hits and I healed once in my best run and more times in others
analog pawn
watchers are the hardest part of any%
practice it a lot
cloak in 9 is decent starting out
Fireball skips also take practice but once you have them down it won't be a big problem
just takes a while
analog pawn
debug mod makes practice easier
also heavily recommend debug mod
savestates make practice like 20x more convenient
drowsy sluice
do watchers backroll more on lp or something?
I keep getting hit by backroll while practicing on lp
vagrant warren
Well they don't do it at all on most other commonly played parches
hidden sundial
Yup backrolls aren't even a thing on 1.2.2.1
fast saddle
what are the most used splits for any%nmg speedrunning on livesplit speedrun timer?
vagrant warren
I'd suggest checking hksplitmaker or the comsob sheet in the pinned speedrun server.
mint mist
real
fluid wolf
weary root
I get sad when I see others get angry at Uumuu. Sad, because I know that they’re actually angry at themselves, for having terrible Watcher Knight and Hollow Knight fights. Because Uumuu is so easy to optimize, they take their anger out on him, becoming more and more insecure and never addressing their own personal problems. I just wish more people understood that RNG doesn’t ruin runs: speedrunners ruin runs.
sturdy glade
wigull
steady lynx
wigull
mint mist
wigull
analog pawn
wigull
dusty dagger
wigull
oak hound
is there a comsob for every room
weary root
yeah there's a roomsob, you can find it in the speedrunning server there's a thread in the # any-percent channel
static ether
hello i need help, i don’t know where and how to install mods (especially debug mod) for hollow knight version 1.2.2.1 for any% nmg speedrun. i tried to look in some yt videos but is everything outdated, i don’t know where to look at now. can someone pls help?
weary root
join speedrunning server (link in the pins^) and check the pins of #tech-support
oak hound
join speedrunning server (link in the pins^) and check the pins of #tech-support
i dont see it pinned can you send it to me
weary root
magic tendon
its a good time. i dont know if you did or not but shamin skip on switch is extremly easy, sooo that would be a way to help cut the time down
regal flame
I get sad when I see others get angry at Uumuu. Sad, because I know that they’re...
real
hazy coral
I get sad when I see others get angry at Uumuu. Sad, because I know that they’re...
I beat uumuu first try
formal verge
will this skip be useful on some route?
formal verge
(sorry for the audio)
formal verge
I played it without sound at first and didn't notice
weary root
Probably not useful, getting wings without cdash is already pretty rare and going out of the way for shriek is also not common
People have run clawless though which does use shrogos to get to monomon among other things
weary root
The randomiser community generally considers shrogo and slopeball to be major glitches, but there have been some tournaments that allowed them
But also when randoing casually you can use whatever rules you want
mint mist
bingy doesn’t like stallball either
i thiiiink shrogo is technically allowed but it’s also useless for bingy
dusty dagger
Stallball ban is a fluke
Ig im not randoracing but considering spell pogos as major glitches is bald an hairless
Wheres the fun in them existing if only main categories use them in like 4 places
Also,the categories that use them are "no major glitches"
Im not a fan of "playing casually,you can use whatever rules you want"
With that same logic you can use all glitches for rando
Which i mean..yeah you can.But thats different from shrogos and stallballs which are in logic
weary root
I mean one of the main reasons they're banned is because you can't do them with shade soul, so it would put things out of logic if you picked that up
remote prairie
Could I get some help with beating the game under 10 hrs?
static umbra
just follow the guide for 5hr speedrun achievement linked in the pins
weary root
yeah honestly it's a great guide
if you're on phone you have to click on the post cause it only shows like half the message 🥴
steady lynx
There's actually a runner who has been submitting shriek + wings route runs for any% NMG
This exact skip might be faster for TE 1432+ NMG in theory, but they burn all the soul to shriek Uumuu, so it's not feasible
mint mist
shrogo archives 
weary root
There's actually a runner who has been submitting shriek + wings route runs for ...
fascinating
mint mist
do they kill uumuu and then loop back for soul?
steady lynx
It's slower than the normal route, but I don't think playing optimally was the plan
steady lynx
Full clawless needs a bit more, mostly because of Lurien
weary root
have they considered using elevator storage?
remote prairie
just follow the guide for 5hr speedrun achievement linked in the pins
Thanks :)
steady lynx
have they considered using elevator storage?
Skipping Lurien might be faster
TC literally put mms in the game for a reason
dusty dagger
I mean one of the main reasons they're banned is because you can't do them with ...
There is an option for togglebele fireball upgrade.
analog pawn
As for why shrogo is banned in rando tournaments, it's simply very good in rando and can change progression a ton
formal verge
For true ending shrogo I viable but you have to make almost impossible skip (like 9 shrogo in air in a row) to go through white palace
*it is viable
drowsy sluice
There's actually a runner who has been submitting shriek + wings route runs for ...
how is shriek even worth considering in any%
weary root
you're assuming this person is trying to be optimal
drowsy sluice
well obviously it's not optimal but that seems to imply that it kind of works
weary root
I mean you could probably get a 4x time with it pretty easily so it's still fast
just not optimal
drowsy sluice
ok that makes more sense
sturdy glade
that shrogo runner actually has sub 40
mint mist
that’s so insane
drowsy sluice
what's the timesave of qga vs troll pit to deepnest route?
weary root
about 35 seconds
optimally, which like QG is a lot more difficult and harder to optimize
drowsy sluice
the troll pit route goes monomon -> queen's station -> troll pit -> hotsprings -> dark deepnest right
weary root
yeah
drowsy sluice
well yeah I just wasn't sure if heading in the failed tramway direction then down to dark deepnest would be faster than hot springs
weary root
you can't until you open the shortcut (breakable floor) from the tram direction
drowsy sluice
if I downpatch to 1221 on steam will it automatically make a new installation?
like will it have new save slots
drowsy sluice
you can't until you open the shortcut (breakable floor) from the tram direction
oh right
weary root
it will override your current install and all installs share saves, they're kept elsewhere
?tag saves
there's probab;y a command for it
river axleBOT
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weary root
oh dyno is just slow lmao
steady lynx
oh dyno is just slow lmao
It's doing it's best
drowsy sluice
it will override your current install and all installs share saves, they're kept...
moresaves mod saves will also be kept somewhere if I launch without it right
weary root
yeah they'll be fine you just won't be able to access them until you put the game back on current patch and add the mod again
drowsy sluice
oh ok
hidden sundial
about 35 seconds
Also relevant to say the save is less on LP since QG thorn skip is patched
drowsy sluice
Also relevant to say the save is less on LP since QG thorn skip is patched
is that the one where you jump into the thorns to spawn on the lever?
hidden sundial
Yup
drowsy sluice
how does the nail 1 any% route work btw?
someone told me it only loses like 20s
I was thinking bench before watchers -> head across to rafters -> grab seal -> nail upgrade -> quit out and continue like usual
weary root
you get the relic behind the hidden wall near greenpath stag, get the journal in the rooms above kings station, then the seal in kings station, kill G-husk, get nail upgrade, head back get rafters seal, sell to lemm and then head right past the fountain again and up to watchers
need ~50 extra geo from killing the easy city enemies
still need watchers chest but don't need the seal there
weary root
yeah it's basically what the fury route does
drowsy sluice
would clearing out the enemies on the way to the bridge out of spire work?
for the 50 geo
weary root
the ones right at the bottom of spire give 40 and the ones in the lever to the left of that give 18 so probably just those
drowsy sluice
oh ok thanks
drowsy sluice
the ones right at the bottom of spire give 40 and the ones in the lever to the l...
can i just grab the moss knights if I have a skill issue and don't know the exact geo counts
weary root
I think moss knights should have been included anyway
either way you probably shouldn't bee too far off the right amount of geo and you can always get the rocks in beasts den if you're a bit short for DV Stag (250)
drowsy sluice
special mouse buttons yeah
weary root
you can get a program to help with that
join the speedrunning server https://discord.gg/3JtHPsBjHD
and type ;turquoise in like the help channel or something
weary root
You could just get and sell watchers relic in that situation, wouldn't lose that much time
drowsy sluice
i decided to switch back to lp cause the game was too laggy
I couldn't do the king's station relic
it was running at like 10 fps
drowsy sluice
pretty happy with first try watchers though
lyric wing
Is it possible to do the shaman skip on hk mobile?
I can do it on switch and PC but it just doesn't work
vagrant warren
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vagrant warren
Oh I found it on a reddit post sorry I didn't know it wasn't allowed
You thought pirating the game was allowed, in the official partnered discord server? 
lofty flare
You thought pirating the game was allowed, in the official partnered discord ser...
I’d say they should put something in rules but like
New members don’t read those
vagrant warren
Nah, that's absurd. it's common sense not to steal, and if you do steal don't come to place (loosely using "place" here) that you stole from asking about it
karmic aurora
Hey
What is the best way to start learning any percent?
vagrant warren
if you're on PC get debug so that you can use save states & other practice tools, you can get save state packs in the pinned speedrun discord
karmic aurora
Unfortunantly im playing on the nintendo switch
vagrant warren
Ah. Then you're just going to be playing thru repeatedly. For fights you can quit out before the final killing blow to repeat it.
lyric wing
You thought pirating the game was allowed, in the official partnered discord ser...
I undownloaded it sorry I should have paid more attention to what it was
boreal gust
?rank speedrunner
formal bough
not a thing anymore
formal bough
if you want a speedrunner role be a speedrunner and go to the speedrun discord
boreal gust
ok
long sage
question. I'm pretty new to speedrunning, my best time being around 2 hour 30, and the route I have always used is the shadesoul route. the issue at the moment is that all the speedruns I had watched when I started the game were by guys like Valigo, so the routing was much older, and I don't image that I could pull any of the newer skips off since I am not that good and play current patch. Any routes that aren't that skill intensive to get sub 1 hour 30?
vagrant warren
What category are you running? Like, you don't need the majority of skips in any% to still get sub hour in that category
long sage
any%
to be fair
I have 300 hours in hollow knight and I always reset the game until I got speedrun 2 achievment
so I'm good at the beginning of the game and horrible at the end
hard quiver
can sombody help me start speedrunning?
hidden sundial
so I'm good at the beginning of the game and horrible at the end
Tbf the best way is to practice the parts you struggle with - 1:30 is forgiving enough to do some slip ups. Try to learn mainly Watcher Knights strats (which can potentially cause a couple deaths) and for the rest, just try to have moment that's reasonably clean, no need to perform crazy skips for that goal
long sage
the thing is on my best run I only died once to watcher knights and once to the hollow knight, my routing is just bad
mint mist
honestly, use a different route
practice blss a few times, practice fca a few times, go to herrah through spore shroom and sub hour should be fine if you can handle vs shaman wk and thk
i think you could easily get sub hour just with a bit of practice and some confidence
long sage
are there any videos of the route that I could watch?
mint mist
many yeah
this is like
not a great guide, and this guy says a lot of things that are wrong but
it follows the route i was talking about and he’s not the best player so you might find confidence in the fact that he can do it
helpful that he talks about what he’s doing as well
he isn’t running on current patch, so inventory drops and lever skips you’ll have to just not do
vagrant warren
can sombody help me start speedrunning?
Help with what in particular?
long sage
I was gonna say
Since I use shade soul route
If I was playing on an older patch I would simply dash slash skip to it
Wait he’s terrible
He runs into four ledges in kings pass and makes an unnecessary jump
My pb to claw is better than his…
static umbra
i mean that should just instill further confidence that sub 1 hr really isnt that bad at all
hidden sundial
You likely want to learn how they do the post claw since you did mention your first half is already good enough
long sage
Two things
One
Every run of hollow knight I play, if I don’t get claw sub 11, I reset. Two, because of this, it took me 220 hours to beat the game my first time. In that run, I got to the hollow knight in three hours. That runs final time was 8hr 57. Finally, I don’t know how to route deepnest.
Also watch this guys mound. It hurt me.
long sage
I never said it wasn’t
static umbra
took 220 hours to beat the game for the first time?? am i reading it correctly in that u r reseting on first playthrough or am i misunderstanding
long sage
Correct. I never had a fresh play through. Since my first run I had been trying to speedrun.
static umbra
that is... certainly a way to play the game i suppose
seems like a rather boring and strange way to play but ig whatever works for u
long sage
The thing I enjoy most about games is going fast. Unpopular opinion I know. I just watched some mossbag videos to try and understand the lore.
hidden sundial
Well, all the resets make sense on why you route to Claw better than Deepnest
You probably want to practice later segments more often since a completed run with mistakes is always better than an unfinished run
long sage
don’t be too mean
I also understand this was four years ago so optimization to that extent didnt feel as necessary. I was more saying it was rough for me that even with sub optimal play, his run is 1/3 of my time.
long sage
Well, all the resets make sense on why you route to Claw better than Deepnest
probably. It was more I would just get frustrated If i missed a jump or screwed up something significant. Normally, on my 2:36 run (my PR), I would have reset after dying to watcher knights. I only wanted the sub five hour achivment so I played it out.
static umbra
speedruns 4 years ago were already really optimized (i think wr was already 32 mins by that time). but that level of optimization is simply unnecessary for sub 1 hr, as the video clearly shows
long sage
that what I was saying. I don't think he was going for wr so it likely didn't matter to him personally if small mistakes were made.
mint mist
are you going for wr?
long sage
no
mint mist
yippee
hidden sundial
Good for you
long sage
I still feel he made a good amount of errors
mint mist
i would hate to link ibaldur
hidden sundial
WR sucks
long sage
watch just his kings pas
mint mist
some might even say that any% sucks
long sage
my primary goal is to get sub 40
nrn I just mean over the coourse of time
right now I'm going for sub 1:30
static umbra
right now I'm going for sub 1:30
okay so for sub 1:30 u can afford to make massive mistakes and still be completely fine. dont reset on any mistakes and just practice the whole run. i can promise u that even with multiple deaths and sloppy movement sub 1:30 is still feasible
long sage
can I explain what my route currently looks like? I'm most familiar with iot so maybe optimizing it would be a simpler way to get sub 1:30 than learning a new route
static umbra
at one point my pb was like 51 mins (didnt use livesplit so this was in-game time), that was with 4 deaths to thk 💀
sleek mantle
Got sub 42 hours 😎
mint mist
holy
static umbra
ggs
sleek mantle
First attempt too
sleek mantle
i’m pretty sure wr is sub 42h
Dammit
mint mist
First attempt too
you’re lying
long sage
can I explain what my route currently looks like? I'm most familiar with iot so ...
what do you guys think?
mint mist
say on god rn
mint mist
can I explain what my route currently looks like? I'm most familiar with iot so ...
i mean sure go for it
not sure how much help i can be other than just
telling you what optimal vs route does
sleek mantle
say on god rn
On god broski
hidden sundial
can I explain what my route currently looks like? I'm most familiar with iot so ...
Tbh, I thought the same and when I switched route I saved 20 min on my first try
long sage
at the moment, my route is standard. I skip false knight, go to greenpath, squint skip, and then where it varies is I kill double moss knights and grab the journal outside of hornet. In fungal, I grab three collectables then bench to mound, get crossroad stag, stag to dirtmouth and grab another collectable, grab shaman stone, shade skip and get dreamnail, kill gorgeous husk, grab the city collectable and sharpened nail, go to lemm and sell everything. Go back to kings station stag and buy it, styag to dirtmouth get lumafly, go to crystal peaks get shopkeepers key and c dash, go back and buy elegant key from sly, go to king station and head up to shade soul, grab it, then go back to station, stag to dirtmouth, go down into uumuu, after uumuu go through to deepnest, then leave deepnest and head to wk, then simply go to station and stag bacik to the hollow knight.
mint mist
i’m really not trying to be rude, but in your opinion where did you lose like 1.5h of time
long sage
I'm good at movement to c dash, then it falls apart. I had way to many needless mistakes by going the wrong way, like I forgot to grap elegant key and had to backtrack from the gate for example
aside from that my two deaths were close deaths so they lost a good bit of time
but yeah
it is a lot of time to lose for such simple things
the person I got this route from completed it in 1:04
thenm reason I like it is because having shadesoul makes it harder to sell at wk and hk
mint mist
that’s true, but you’re doing two trips to city
shade soul adds a lot of errand running
long sage
it is. I don't know any other routes that are fast and make bosses significantly easier.
(theoretically fast if I didnt suck)
mint mist
i think you could easily sub hour this with a little bit of practice in the late game
you said you quit out if you don’t get a sub 11 claw, so that’s a good indicator of like
solid pace
if you have a screenshot of your splits, could you send that?
i’m still searching for a lot of lost time
long sage
I'm gonna be honest, I don't record It. The only reason I know the time is because when I bench warp out I look
mint mist
do you use livesplit?
long sage
nope
mint mist
and you use benchwarp 
long sage
yeah when I benchwarp out of hornet I see the IGT
mint mist
quit out? or the mod
mint mist
alright well i’m not really sure how to help outside of saying to practice your late game
long sage
am I able to shar screen In general?
mint mist
you should be yep
long sage
can I show you what my time looks like up to dream nail? I already have a run just past claw
mint mist
i can imagine, probably like a 15m dnail
long sage
I don't know what to do past dream nail in the route that you guys mention
long sage
i can imagine, probably like a 15m dnail
maybe 16 yeah
mint mist
i can hop in vc and show you movement after dnail
long sage
sure. Can't talk unfortunately because it's a new pc without audio or mic setup, but I can watch.
earnest forum
Saying it now before the game releases,
I will at some point hold a world record speedrun for Silksong.
long sage
i can hop in vc and show you movement after dnail
could you pause so I could give that far a shot? I have to go for dinner in a bit.
long sage
what is the best method to consistently double spell the first moss knight?
sacred thunder
If you want actual guides and strats you want to go to the speedrunning server
If you want my half ass explanation here it is
Basically if you jump above the knight they jump backwards to avoid getting pogoed to death, so what you need is nail, wait, nail, fireball, jump up to their face so they think you are above them and fireball because then they jump away
You can use debugmod to see hitboxes to see what the trigger looks like
long sage
ok thanks. Ill give that a shot.
long sage
ngl
i nailed him then when I threw the first fireball he jumped back for no reason so I lucked out and didnt need to do step 2
drowsy sluice
does qol mod make old epogo doable?
formal bough
yes
drowsy sluice
is there a tutorial for mantis pogo btw
grizzled dock
Does anybody here in this server own hollow knight and would be down to do an 8 person item sync speedrun. If so please dm me.
turbid patio
8 person??????
drowsy sluice
what does it mean if i'm getting hit by the explosion for epogo
i only got it once
formal bough
with qol/1221 you want to be pogoing off of the explosion, so I believe you should be farther left?
drowsy sluice
i thought the middle mushroom was the indicator
formal bough
what setup are you using? here's one that works https://youtu.be/H6wGrY-BlFo
(though I'm sure there's more)
(for an itemless epogo, if you have dash or fireball you can do something different that's faster of course)
drowsy sluice
i couldn't find a good guide
i just searched it on yt
I also found a weird damage boost setup
formal bough
oh you're using dash and fireball too
drowsy sluice
yeah
drowsy sluice
nvm this is only working because of the claw slide
or at least it's inconsistent without
formal bough
just search in #822611544231772170 in the speedrun discord
there are countless
here's a 2fb one for example
lots of dash+fb ones for lp too
#822611544231772170 message is a collation of lp strats
like this one
drowsy sluice
ive actually gotten really consistent at my own thing, it's definitely not optimal but it shouldn't be an issue if i'm just casually running right?
static umbra
nvm this is only working because of the claw slide
not sure what claw slide u r talking about but i do pretty much the same thing with the 3 fb and damage boost and i got it like 80% consistent
drowsy sluice
not sure what claw slide u r talking about but i do pretty much the same thing w...
i have claw here so i slide for like a tiny fraction of a second on the wall
formal bough
ive actually gotten really consistent at my own thing, it's definitely not optim...
I mean an extra fireball and a damage tank is pretty bad
but yeah if it's working it's fine
static umbra
i have claw here so i slide for like a tiny fraction of a second on the wall
oh, it works without it too
formal bough
like it'd be faster if you learn a better strategy but you're doing it for fun any strategy is fine
static umbra
also its kinda funny cuz i literally put a vid of like the exact same thing months ago: #speedrunning message
drowsy sluice
like it'd be faster if you learn a better strategy but you're doing it for fun a...
i figured out how to do it without the damage tank
so i think it's just a 3 fireball lp skip
nvm ill just use one of the setups
drowsy sluice
also its kinda funny cuz i literally put a vid of like the exact same thing mont...
oh lol
i think i might just stick with it then
cause for casual running it's really consistent
i think i'd rather have the damage tank and 3 fireballs than having to redo it
static umbra
yea its quite consistent but then u also want to get mantis pogo down as well cuz if u fail that then u might get hit by the mantises and the hp situation could be a bit awkward (and also timeloss obviously)
drowsy sluice
where can i find a mantis pogo guide?
formal bough
searching #822611544231772170 in the speedrun discord is a great move to find help
drowsy sluice
i tried searching but for mantis pogo + attachments in that channel
didn't help
or at least i'd have to scroll a bit
nvm my discord is sketchy
i tried it again and it actually gave results this time
i just did a cursed variation with 2 fireballs on the right of the overhang into 1 on the left
mint mist
what route is this? you get ddark?
agile breach
One of the first ever routes in hollow knight?
dawn junco
what route is this? you get ddark?
I don’t think it has a name
agile breach
i think it does
at least from a video i know it has a name
(blue sr's history of world records)
dawn junco
Did it say the name?
agile breach
yh
dawn junco
I don’t remember
agile breach
i forgot it tho
mint mist
i doubt it’s 1:1 with that route, but i am curious
dawn junco
I do current any% route until claw
Then I go to city for dive and take stag to crossroads for shaman, one more mask and lantern
Then cdash, ddark and dream nail
mint mist
you don’t kill dung defender or get isma’s tho right
mint mist
that’s good
well gg sub 1:30
if you were confident in your combat you could save a lot of time by copying the vs route but that’s a great first run all the same
mint mist
nice nice
dawn junco
<@&283547423706447872>
dawn junco
2nd speedrun ever
Wow
drowsy sluice
not yet
hidden sundial
That's a pretty good time considering the WK death, big progress
hidden sundial
Also yeah, Livesplit does move the number down a bit
And helps you track your progress on each segment which is also nice
mint mist
with a run of this length you can probably expect at couple minutes of difference
mint mist
yes
drowsy sluice
next goal is gonna be sub 50 then probably
i think the easiest time saves would be learning fireball skips and fast watchers/uumuu
mint mist
i think the easiest time saves would be learning fireball skips and fast watcher...
watchers uumuu thk are good to learn
i still haven’t learned uumuu or thk with any% gear
i just wing it
drowsy sluice
is rta real time or in game time
mint mist
rta is real time attack
drowsy sluice
i still haven’t learned uumuu or thk with any% gear <:zote:562358113374568477>
oh yeah i still need to learn thk
but i got like 5 or 6 cycle uumuu
mint mist
that’s a huge chunk of future timesave then
2 cycle is a pain on lp but 3 cycle is pretty doable if you set yourself up for success
gray ember
i just wing it
i wing all the any% route
mint mist
real!
any% should have been a better run if it wanted me to practice
loading it up randomly and doing a run every couple months is much better
that way, you pb like every time
bc you’ve just gotten better
drowsy sluice
rta is real time attack
what does that mean exactly
drowsy sluice
so then i basically have sub 50 from livesplit anyways
sub 45 should be doable then
mint mist
depends on your computer but yeah
static umbra
also the squit would NOT cooperate for squit skip
i usually just reset the room the moment i mess up the squit pogo just to avoid situations like that, walking out of the room and re-entering the room is a bit slow but it does allow u to do ur usual setup so that its more consistent, instead of trying to wing it after u fail
drowsy sluice
the problem with that is i don't have a setup
i just wing it
also are their charges randomly timed? it feels like it
mint mist
this is my usual setup, after you aggro him you rush this platform and unless he gets janked by the ceiling he bonks on the wall and you get a free pogo
you have to bait his angle a little so minihopping is good
drowsy sluice
oh the way i did it always took at least 3 attacks
static umbra
just watch zvypurrs any% wr for an idea of how to setup the squit pogo, its actually one of the few tricks in the run that is like actually easily replicable even for newer runners lol
hidden sundial
Yeah using the platform you can very consistently use one lunge only and pogo while it gets ready for the second lunge
noble gust
im here because hollow knight speedrun skips are hard on switch 🙁
drowsy sluice
how do I stop taking a bunch of damage while traversing?
I'm pretty sure most of my time loss is just getting hit and needing to heal
static umbra
then practice all the rooms, theres not much to do other than that. u can watch other speedruns to see the movement i suppose
regal flame
i could help you if you have the time?
will i ever get a sub 40 🙁
apparently not, 1st run of the day i accidentallyread the lore tablet in kp
mint mist
regal flame
ive noticed that wr lp doesnt do ibaulder, would ibaulder save time on lp?
mint mist
wr lp needs vs to do the stallball to wings and then mag isma’s
idk if there’s a way it would save time but those are the main reasons i can think of that would deter ibaldur
mint mist
sure don’t
drowsy sluice
mag isma's is optimal on lp?
static umbra
yes
regal flame
call me crazy but what do you need ismas for?
vagrant warren
Monomon because they skip cdash I think
static umbra
yes, and also to get to queens gardens as well
drowsy sluice
how come the optimal route for 1221 and lp are different?
static umbra
one major difference is that slopeball isnt possible on 1221
whereas it is possible on lp
regal flame
im trying to think bc ive done skips to mak it so the only reason you need ismas is for monnomon
yuo can skip the acid skp in crosroads and make a weird jump before uumuu
i kanda want to mess about to see if there is a way to make that last jump to mnnomon
but i think its impossible
mint mist
yes
mint mist
your allowed to wcs it if it’s topologically legal but for it to be topologically legal you need cdash or isma’s or shriek+wings
sturdy glade
just wcs it
mint mist
sharp shadow surely
regal flame
just wcs it
can u even get wcs on lp?
regal flame
sharp shadow surely
yeah defo
mint mist
you can retain dash momentum iirc
can’t*
literally the opposite of what i wanted to say
you just slide at walking speed
sturdy glade
you can jump out of it and it's weird
formal bough
can u even get wcs on lp?
you're not allowed to on lp
regal flame
that what i thought
regal flame
is howling wraiths pogo a thing?
mint mist
nope
regal flame
ok
mint mist
not yet 
mint mist
for a no major glitches run, not really
some tiny helpful stuff that saves a second here or there but nothing is mandatory
sturdy glade
learn mms
mint mist
true
sturdy glade
and slopeball for lp
mint mist
😭
people should honestly give up on all this any% business and retire to a lovely life of te nmg
sturdy glade
choombert do you deadass think te nmg is lovely
coarse turtle
I've grown an interest in speedrunning lately (Particularly Super Metroid) might run this game someday
mint mist
choombert do you deadass think te nmg is lovely
you’re telling me you don’t like quitting out 500 times
also
i was gonna make a meme about growth and leaving any% behind in favor of good speedruns
but i couldn’t think of a funny way to end it
so
regal flame
im conflicted between any percent and 112
mint mist
no ending is better
mint mist
im conflicted between any percent and 112
bad speedrun or good speedrun but it takes 3 hours
and that’s if you’re really good at it
mint mist
112 runners are crazy 
regal flame
ok, i will get sub 40 tonight
regal flame
i want to experement with dashmasters as well
i wonder how that would affect times while still going for cdash
sturdy glade
it's slower that's how
sturdy glade
you’re telling me you don’t like quitting out 500 times
what
drowsy sluice
one major difference is that slopeball isnt possible on 1221
oh so it saves time from skipping the shade skip?
and the nail upgrade to prepare for it
mint mist
yes!
bv slopeball is very free luckily
i suck at mag isma’s tho
you need so much height for the slopeball and i
cannot find it
sturdy glade
I said what cause quitout aren't really a big thing in te
turbid patio
you need so much height for the slopeball and i
Theslopeball is the easy bit
mint mist
D:
rare wagon
idk if this is the right place to ask this (im brand new here), but why is it that sometimes when i double jump while upslashing an enemy my height doesn't get killed? most of the time, when im holding the jump button and im still ascending and i then upslash an enemy i stop gaining height. but sometimes i just keep ascending despite multiple upslashes happening while im still rising. i cant tell why it works the way it does. for context, this has happened to me several times during abs rad.
sturdy glade
if you up slash right after wings you keep momentum
Used very often at least in normal rad fights
rare wagon
@sturdy glade do you know if thats a frame perfect kind of a thing, or are there multiple frames where it can happen?
sturdy glade
it's like a 4 frame it's pretty easy
just do them right after each other and you'll get it almost every time
rare wagon
@sturdy glade lmao, i actually dont want to do it during the 1st phase of abs rad, cuz if i do it while she starts doing a sword rain attack im going to get hit. so what i wanna do is just stay low to the ground (im going for p5 hitless btw)
sturdy glade
ok
rare wagon
@sturdy glade ay but fr tho thx for helping me out
weary root
there are glitch categories
If you wanna run glitched categories there are a few tutorials you can find in the speedrunning server
regal flame
is this skip possible with 3 fire balls ( no slope balls)
sturdy glade
I think it's possible with 4 FB DM and wings
dawn junco
New PB
drowsy sluice
What's this route
drowsy sluice
Ddark just for watchers?
drowsy sluice
I can't do any% watchers so I just grab a nail upgrade
It's only like a 20s time loss
dawn junco
ddark spam kills watchers much faster i think
regal flame
i still need to as well tbh
but i dont want to
ive ebeen trying to learn simas route
ismas*
and ive been struggleing on the last roomin ismas grove
cant get the slope ball
drowsy sluice
i need to practise uumuu more
Slow kill or dying?
drowsy sluice
Try just going for a really safe strat
It's better than dying
Constantly heal up
dawn junco
yeah i try to heal a lot
drowsy sluice
You can do it during the randomly placed electricity attack
I had an uumuu fight with like 11 of those yesterday
And 2 of the other one
regal flame
lucky
dawn junco
You can do it during the randomly placed electricity attack
ye i know
also its not random apparently
drowsy sluice
It isn't?
dawn junco
theres 2 possible patterns
drowsy sluice
wait what
dawn junco
and bottom platforms are always safe
dawn junco
ye but shade soul also helps in uumuu
dusty dagger
surely savestating at a pantheon bench works
FUCK they dont
regal flame
ye but shade soul also helps in uumuu
the optimle run doent get either so maybe pracitce with either of them?
regal flame
thats why you practise
drowsy sluice
it's not as bad as it sounds tbh
hidden sundial
It isn't?
Not random if using QOL. Otherwise it's random with certain restrictions (not more than 2 consecutive attacks of the same type on each cycle)
drowsy sluice
Not random if using QOL. Otherwise it's random with certain restrictions (not mo...
QoL fixes attack order?
I meant the pattern of the electricity
hidden sundial
Yeah
Since one of the attack paterns is way slower than the other it fixes the order Uumuu uses them
drowsy sluice
can you import autosplits?
drowsy sluice
Highly recommend hksplitmaker for getting/making split files
generated them, how do i actually import it now?
i can't find an option
weary root
You should be able to right click on live split and select import splits
It might be in the splits submenu?
coral shore
is this skip possible with 3 fire balls ( no slope balls)
this is possible (but really hard) with 3 fbs and wings (and obviously dash). Dashmaster makes it nicer, twister makes it nicer, dash slash makes it nicer
normal aspen
Clip of above
https://youtu.be/MmYkw9pjdNM?si=DQqBz_9UbDSE5PQw
sturdy glade
I was so confused by the cyan
fast saddle
How can I have my speedrun timer automatically stopped after a certain segment? I use livesplit and HK splitmaker, but my timer still doesn't stop when I've completed trial of the warrior.
vagrant warren
you'll want to enable "end-triggering auto split" in the split settings
dawn junco
<@&283547423706447872>
steady lynx
I miss Zaliant
drifting condor
is this decent? It was my first time attempting to do the radiance ending fast
sturdy glade
who knows
vagrant warren
is this decent? It was my first time attempting to do the radiance ending fast
If you're happy with it, its good. If you're asking if it's competitive, you can check the True Ending category on speedrun.com
static umbra
<@&283547423706447872>
south herald
Yurr
steady lynx
Those are getting more common lately
wary bolt
I want to train for any nmg 1221 qga, but with skins so in current patch, is the qga the same in both 1221 and current patch ?
vagrant warren
Everything on 1221 basically just feels different than current patch. If you want ro run 1221 your best bet is to practice on 1221
wary bolt
ok ok thanks for the answer
glad bear
Everything on 1221 basically just feels different than current patch. If you wan...
Ur the goat bro thanks for the skins 🥹🥹🥹
steady lynx
For all practical purposes, skins don't work at all for 1221, you can learn to live without them, run on LP or spend hours moving around the sprites on the sprite sheets to make them work on the 1221 version of customknight
How you move them to get them to work, there's no documentation on
sturdy glade
I think they're just thanking Colette for the LP skins and the replied to message is irrelevant beyond being colette
gleaming robin
lets all aprreciete how magnificient hk is ......................
steady lynx
Absolutely not, this game is a broken mess
lofty flare
let’s all appreciate how broken hk is
mint mist
weary root
Yeah making skins is a lot
cedar plaza
where am I
weary root
lmao
full oasis
Hi
I'm having problems with the green path fireball skip
It takes me like 5 of 6 tries before I get it
But im trying to get it in less then 3
Any tips?
mint mist
that’s not bad consistency
are you using quick cast?
and are you a keyboard or a controller player?
full oasis
Controller
mint mist
are you using the trick where you hold left with your joystick and tap right with your dpad?
for tighter turnarounds
full oasis
No
mint mist
give that a try
full oasis
ok
mint mist
also most players cast two fireballs, in case you were only casting one
full oasis
@mint mist Thanks for the tip I managed to get a pb of 2 hour and 25 minutes with that
mint mist
i’m not great at killing thk fast but i prioritize using fireball as often as i can
neat dirge
guys I beated the game in 60h in my first ever time playing how much do u think it'll take me to speedrun it?
sturdy glade
idk probably at least half an hour
neat dirge
idk probably at least half an hour
bro it's my second time beating the game
I don't think I'll be that good
formal bough
(in seriousness, probably between 2 and 10 hours depending on what route you do and how good you got at boss fights)
neat dirge
(in seriousness, probably between 2 and 10 hours depending on what route you do ...
no glitches
formal bough
(especially low equipment boss fights, though with a good route you can have relatively decent items)
neat dirge
(especially low equipment boss fights, though with a good route you can have rel...
I might upgrade my nail twice and rely on spells
sturdy glade
why upgrade your nail if you will rely on spells
sturdy glade
bro it's my second time beating the game
then you're definitely not getting under half an hour are you
neat dirge
then you're definitely not getting under half an hour are you
I want to see if my 70h play did help me become better
and I'll mostly be happy if I finish under 5h
sturdy glade
then see if you can get sub 5 hours idi
hasty axle
Dead chat lol
Are there any specified discord servers for hollow knight speedrunning?
formal bough
Yes, linked in the pins
The speedrunning community moved away from this server to the speedrunning server a couple years ago
hasty axle
Yes, linked in the pins
Oh thanks very much glad I didnt get ghosted
hasty axle
The speedrunning community moved away from this server to the speedrunning serve...
Thought so that's why I asked and wanted to know
formal bough
This channel remains mainly as a way to let people know about it (and to give occasional simple quick help)
weary root
The speedrunning community moved away from this server to the speedrunning serve...
Just to make you feel old Alexa that was over four(4) years ago 
formal bough
...over 4... it doesn't feel that long ago
steady lynx
How long ago was the black egg door storage event?
formal bough
january 2021 so 4.5
steady lynx
Iconic moment in hk speedrun history
past quartz
yooo, congrats
dusty dagger
is the tas kp collapser skip rng? or just frame perfect inputs
dawn junco
Its frame perfect
topaz path
exotic wigeon
i was reading some messages from 2021 and someone wanted to tas the game, only for everyone to say it was not possible
is tas really that new?
formal bough
People have been tassing HK since at least january 2021 (and likely older I just found one from then)
though a fullgame tas is harder than an il tas
steady lynx
Its frame perfect
It's way more difficult than just being frame perfect, unless you can manipulate t-ft in real time it's practically impossible for humans
turbid patio
how do you speed kill thk
learn the scream skips
shy bone
Hi when I try speedrunning Hornet protector I use cyclone slash (w/ nailmasters glory) when she spawns in shld I do smth else or should I keep cyclone slash and nailmasters glory
drowsy sluice
Hi when I try speedrunning Hornet protector I use cyclone slash (w/ nailmasters ...
uhh you mean hornet sentinel?
hornet protector is the greenpath one
oh nvm
pantheon run?
drowsy sluice
Or just, for fun
i think the strat is to do 2 flukenests in the corner and then push her into them
shy bone
Alr but what if it's not pantheon run
drowsy sluice
like normal speedrun hornet?
shy bone
Yeah
drowsy sluice
you kind of just push her into a corner and bully her there
idk how to describe it
she staggers after a combo of 6
if you stagger her with vs it double hits
mint mist
you can’t do it if you have isma’s
drowsy sluice
How do i do the qga acid skip
practice the timing of dashing onto a wall and then cdashing without sliding somewhere else
it's not as hard as it looks to just do once, took me about 5-10 mins the first time probably?
keep in mind that just going the deepnest route loses like 20 seconds optimally, even less on LP because of a skip which was patched out
native vale
Hello I want to get into speedrunning hk (any% NMG) I have allready set up obs, livesplit, and set hk to 1.2.2.1 and now I wanted to start practicing skips so I wanted to get debugmod but it won't work I tried using scarab and it starts the game but without mods I also tried lumafly but that just crashes the game I don't know what to do now, will be gratefull for any help
wraith trellis
There's no installer for that version, you have to manually mod your game
?tag 1221
river axleBOT
Current 1221 Modding Resources
The Modding API is not allowed to be installed for most runs. This is used for practice purposes.
- HK Speedrun Community Discord: https://discord.gg/3JtHPsBjHD
- Video Guide 🎦
- [Basic Installation Instructions](#modding-discussion message)
- Resources Repo
Assembly Files
You can only use one of these
- Modding API: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822611561427370054/835911691703156746/Assembly-CSharp.dll
- Modding API with Adjustable Screenshake: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098732512844456016/1102778898430824559/Assembly-CSharp.dll
- MiniSaveStates: Github
- Note: MiniSaveStates is not compatible with other 1221 mods, but it is allowed for IL runs.
- Adjustable Screenshake: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1098732512844456016/1100137284667445408/Assembly-CSharp.dll
- Note: This Adjustable Screenshake is not compatible with other 1221 mods, but it is allowed for runs.
Common Mods for 1221
A ModdingApi must be installed to use these
- Debug: Github
- Benchwarp: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/822611561427370054/835455873212088360/Benchwarp.zip
- HKTimer: Github
native vale
thank you
native vale
So I got to downloading the mods but when I try to open "Assembly-CSharp.dll" it won't open and I can't find a fix for it
wraith trellis
Because you don't open it, you put it in your managed folder in your game's files
native vale
ohh ty
native vale
I did everything in the tutorial but when I launch the game it tells me "Failed to start process for this game" btw sorry for annoying you this much with my problems
native vale
It also gives me a crash report and I think that the game thinks I pirated it (which I didn't)
native vale
found a fix
dawn raft
propably the 520257752th post abt this ever, but i finally tried to do a speedrun and got under 3 hours (i didn't do wr route because i'm no good at the game)
hot lion
is there a list of strats and things to practice for getting into any% speedrunning?
i've seen the strats but i don't actually know how to learn them or get into speedrunning in general
vagrant warren
There's no list, because everyone will have trouble with different things that they then need to practice. Lots of tricks have backups as well. Debug mod can help practice with save states. You may also want to join the pinned server for the most updated resources & a more active speedrun community
tardy blade
Can anyone help me with setting up HK any % splits using live split?
weary root
Can anyone help me with setting up HK any % splits using live split?
If you already have livesplit i'd recommend getting splits from https://hksplitmaker.com/
If you still have issues gimme a ping
knotty vigil
Hai, I'm getting into speedrunning HK, and i wondering where or what is the best way to learn the route for Any% NMG, and do i have to downpatch my game?
static umbra
for learning routes u should just memorize the route that u want to do then u can do no reset run to get a feel for the route then practice segments that u dont feel as comfortable with. u can also watch other ppl speedruns to see what they do
as for downpatching, its really just up to preference, not a requirement. u can run either latest patch or 1221
knotty vigil
tysm!
past quartz
also 1221 is far less optimized lmao, my laptop's always dying
silver canyon
perhaps not exactly a speedrunning topic but for something funny like this, I'd imagine speedrunners would have the lore
do y'all know of funny/meme ways to kill bosses? e.g. infinitely bouncing around white defender, hornet sentinel sliding against the wall then dying upside down
I'm looking for meme kills for other bosses
weary root
You can get lost kin to fall out of the arena which (I think?) kills him
If you damage false knight enough to reach the next phase before spawning him in (his hitbox is just there sitting at the top left of the arena) then his sprite never spawns in and he's just invisible the rest of the fight
On 1221 and earlier you can kill flukemarm with only two dives like this https://youtu.be/JWUq9nzbSrc?t=37m37s
TAS's kill Uumuu with an uoma core like this https://youtu.be/XBpo9j-I4kI?t=25m5s
I'd prefer if you don't ping me unless it's actually something important
silver canyon
If you damage false knight enough to reach the next phase *before* spawning him ...
that sounds incredible
silver canyon
On 1221 and earlier you can kill flukemarm with only two dives like this https:/...
that's super cool, I don't think I will downpatch though
silver canyon
TAS's kill Uumuu with an uoma core like this https://youtu.be/XBpo9j-I4kI?t=25m5...
✅
thanks for the lore these are super fun 🙏
weary root
that's super cool, I don't think I will downpatch though
Yeah a lot of the more janky stuff got patched out 
silver canyon
got it I'll look into that
silver canyon
Yeah a lot of the more janky stuff got patched out <:PrideLaugh:9578157027760702...
makes sense
still!
✅ registered
hushed quiver
This isn’t exactly a speedrunning question, but I was curious. Is it possible to get Crystal Heart as your first movement upgrade?
shell spindle
does fireball not allow for skips to cdash
i must have been wrong
oh fireball counts as movement right
steady lynx
Cdash is obtained first in the NMMS low nailswing route, but nobody cares about low nailswing, so whatever
cloud brook
hi guys
I was attempting a 112% once and was using the checklist website, but it kept loosing my progress. I made a fork, added fixes for this from another fork (it now remembers progress even between browser restarts), replaced fandom wikis with hollowknight.wiki and published it here (in case anyone is interested): https://murolem.github.io/hollow-knight-checklist/
mint mist
very cool!
wicked robin
Is beating the game in less than 4 hours purely off of memory whilst on a controller for the first time ever good?
sturdy glade
did you feel good about it
gaunt shell
what does the low% route omit except for charms
gray ember
it doesnt get dash and doesnt kill gruzz mother, it gets tram pass to get to dreamnail instead of shadeskipping because it is not a %
hidden sundial
what does the low% route omit except for charms
Everything that's not strictly required to beat the game, including charms and several skills/spells
sturdy glade
note that skipping dash also skips hornet's %
nova carbon
does fireball not allow for skips to cdash
It makes dashless c-dash possible, but not clawless
mint mist
ibaldur is a thing
nova carbon
is fireball recuired for any% nmg?
Nope. Itemless baldur is faster if you can perform the run without fireball
astral adder
Nope. Itemless baldur is faster if you can perform the run without fireball
ok thanks
drowsy sluice
ok thanks
it's a much harder route though
you have to rely on fury for damage and the ibaldur skip itself is pretty hard
nova carbon
Yeah. Not having VS certainly makes boss fights harder, and for fury strats you poretty much have to do them all hitless
nova carbon
you have to rely on fury for damage and the ibaldur skip itself is pretty hard
They thought it wasn't humanly possible for a bit after it was first discovered, so yeah pretty difficult
sturdy glade
nah
ibaldur has been known among tasers for a whiiile
That used the spits which are rng so it's not viable
shade ibaldur has been known to be possible since it's discovery afaik
shell spindle
It makes dashless c-dash possible, but not clawless
Ooooh yea ofc u need mantis
I’m a dum dum
sturdy glade
Nah you don't need claw
nova carbon
You can wings
Can you get wings without claw tho
nova carbon
How do you get wraiths without claw tho?
formal bough
I mean howling wraiths is obtainable itemless
with a shade skip and pogoing off of the shade and the mossflies
nova carbon
Realy? Interesting.
sturdy glade
you can get everything without claw except kingsoul and claw iirc
kind stone
I finnaly beat ngl on radiant In under 3 mins 😅
Any tips for abs rad speed run tactics🤔
leaden canyon
What component input do I add for an auto split for when I enter greenpath?
coral shore
What component input do I add for an auto split for when I enter greenpath?
Try looking for Enter Greenpath in the dropdown
also, on https://hksplitmaker.com/ you can find premade splits
coral shore
Does*
Still work compared to what
MMS does exist on 1.5, however it can't do everything it could before 1.3. Although it is particularly powerful due to godseeker mode existance
viscid ginkgo
MMS does exist on 1.5, however it can't do everything it could before 1.3. Altho...
Ok. What is the patch for glitch running
Patch*
The current wr
steady lynx
Technically with matoclip 1432 is optimal though, just nobody has stepped up to Staxis for a bit
leaden canyon
Try looking for Enter Greenpath in the dropdown
thanks
astral adder
Yeah. Not having VS certainly makes boss fights harder, and for fury strats you ...
with shaman
nova carbon
with shaman
No I don’t think so
knotty vigil
How hard is the 100% in under 20hrs achievement?
drowsy sluice
How hard is the 100% in under 20hrs achievement?
not, the timing is super generous as long as you're not getting lost a lot
if you keep moving with an objective in mind you'll get it easily
knotty vigil
not, the timing is super generous as long as you're not getting lost a lot
Good to know, the 100% is definitely intimidating. Is this a good guide? https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guides/7y92q
It’s a 106% but I’m sure I could cut out some “unneeded” parts of the extra 6% got in the way.
drowsy sluice
Good to know, the 100% is definitely intimidating. Is this a good guide? https:/...
no, don't follow speedrun routes
this gets unnecessarily long percents and takes an unnecessarily difficult route
knotty vigil
this gets unnecessarily long percents and takes an unnecessarily difficult route
So it would be best to plan my own
drowsy sluice
yep
knotty vigil
yep
Damn… steam guides were a life saver for the 5 hour speedrun, shame I can’t find one for the 100% one
drowsy sluice
i suggest you skip these percents:
pantheons 1-4 (4%)
white fragments and voidheart (1%)
nkg/banishment, troupe master grimm (2%)
seer ascension, awoken dream nail (2%)
trial of the fool (1%)
not sure about the last 2
I guess probably the last mask (no flower quest, no fungal core, no seer, not sure about the last one)
oh elegy for sure
knotty vigil
oh elegy for sure
Which ones elegy again?
drowsy sluice
Which ones elegy again?
grubberfly's elegy, this way you can skip getting every grub
knotty vigil
grubberfly's elegy, this way you can skip getting every grub
Oh yeah
knotty vigil
grubberfly's elegy, this way you can skip getting every grub
So no grubs
drowsy sluice
no you still need grubs
they give other stuff
I think the most you need is 31 for the pale ore
knotty vigil
i suggest you skip these percents:
pantheons 1-4 (4%)
white fragments and voidh...
Is the troupe that bad for time saving?
drowsy sluice
you get to skip all 9 flames
knotty vigil
you get to skip all 9 flames
Oh yeah I completely forgot about the flames lol
drowsy sluice
summoning them is like a 2 minute detour from jonis (plus you can grab 1k geo from the idol and journal in that room) so it's worth
drowsy sluice
Oh yeah I completely forgot about the flames lol
actually on second thought you could probably do a pantheon or two cause you need godtuner anyways
maybe use an extra percent to skip tram pass/hive entirely (cause you're already skipping out on a mask shard)
knotty vigil
Do dream bosses (white knight ect) count towards %
vagrant warren
You don't. It's simple on steam, a hassle on GoG, and impossible on gamepass
leaden canyon
ah
nova carbon
How hard is the 100% in under 20hrs achievement?
I mean not too hard. As soon as I read this message I decided to do it, took me 5 hrs.
proud forge
i was speedruning p2 and my timer was blocking the soul meter will my run be accepted?
steady lynx
How badly was it covered? Can you provide a screenshot
proud forge
yeah great
mint mist
i can’t help with your run getting rejected but
if you right click your livesplit > edit layout > layout settings > splits, you can uncheck the box next to “fill with blank space if not enough splits”
you can get rid of all that fat
steady lynx
Top right is better for Livesplit, not as in the way there
hidden sundial
Yeah top right is kinda okay, but top left is a hard no since it also blocks the abscense of Modding API on the title screen
sturdy glade
top right is goated wym
proud forge
it got rejected but the soul meter wasnt the first reason the first reason is me not showing my version, does that mean that i have to exit out of my save every single time to show the version?
mighty vault
it got rejected but the soul meter wasnt the first reason the first reason is me...
it should be at the very start of the video, before you create the file
gaunt shell
what would be the difference between 112% APB and 112% Embrace the Void?
because I don't know why it isn't just called the latter
I'm probably missing something
drowsy sluice
what would be the difference between 112% APB and 112% Embrace the Void?
Zote I think
gaunt shell
Zote I think
yeah that's the only thing I could come up with as well
formal bough
yeah you have to do gpz. also like that's just the name, like that's how we chose to name it
all pantheon bosses is a good way to mandate gpz
gaunt shell
yeah thats true
it's kinda confusing tho cuz the first time I thought maybe it meant All Pantheon Bindings
oblique igloo
https://youtube.com/shorts/JYmU69sTSqs?si=6cStwScORR8dvlX8
I don't know how to do it right, is something wrong with my technique guys ? 💔
formal bough
Sorry, is there a specific question or are you just self advertising (6th rule)
you seem to have done sufficiently well in the eternal ordeal
oblique igloo
you seem to have done sufficiently well in the eternal ordeal
Nah I actually wanted to make a record, I wanted to reach a record for another video like a video that I make myself but a no hit one and it seams impossible to me
That's why I'm asking rn
formal bough
https://youtu.be/giaHQkGFlZI this is the record afaik
but also, this is not a #speedrunning topic [unless you mean you're trying to get a speed record for like 57 kills, which isn't an extant category afaik]
oblique igloo
but also, this is not a <#283467985224466442> topic [unless you mean you're tryi...
Why do I have to speedrun killing 56 Zote, nah I want to make a record, yeah I like my videos to look like I'm speedrunning so that u won't feel bored but also I'm intending to make a record if u get me, it's like I'm not running from the enemy in the fight but also getting 0 hits ...
oblique igloo
https://youtu.be/giaHQkGFlZI this is the record afaik
Plus thx that would help btw ❤️
oblique igloo
https://youtu.be/giaHQkGFlZI this is the record afaik
That guy fought 4 like almost 8 hrs !!!
Whaaaat !!
That's impossible to me that's crazy!!! 😂😂
gaunt shell
That's impossible to me that's crazy!!! 😂😂
yeah🤣
leaden canyon
i was speedruning p2 and my timer was blocking the soul meter will my run be acc...
do u have 2 monitors?
weary root
it got rejected but the soul meter wasnt the first reason the first reason is me...
Someone said you have to show version number before the run which is wrong we changed that rule, so it's slightly different now.
Seems like you're running pantheons so you can just show the main menu after the run
proud forge
Someone said you have to show version number before the run which is wrong we ch...
that saves a lot of time actually thanks
proud forge
do u have 2 monitors?
yeah
knotty vigil
This is a stupid question but just to check: essence trees aren’t worth it while doing the speed completion right
drowsy sluice
absolutely not
just do the dream bosses and dream warriors
you can also skip most of the dream bosses and just not get awoken dream nail/ascension
awoken dream nail + ascension + kingsoul/voidheart is only 3%
knotty vigil
awoken dream nail + ascension + kingsoul/voidheart is only 3%
Getting to the awoken dream nail would require being the dream warriors which all give 1% iirc
drowsy sluice
you need 1500 for the mask shard anyways
getting all dream warriors doesn't quite get you there
it's like 1200 I think?
skipping a mask is also a good idea though
knotty vigil
So just do all the dream warriors
drowsy sluice
yeah
proud forge
i dont i just overlay it on top
i got another run tho and i hope i didnt make any actual mistakes this time
knotty vigil
Is the hive worth it?
knotty vigil
Speed completion
proud forge
what does real time attack mean?
proud forge
isnt that the same thing??
in obs i put it on one screen but the timer is on my second screen
leaden canyon
Speed completion
yes
weary root
what does real time attack mean?
RTA comes from the days when speedruns were often done in two different ways Time Attack, and Real Time Attack. TA was essentially stitching together all your best levels, and RTA was doing them all in a row.
Now we mostly use it to mean timing using the real time it takes to beat the run.
Hollow Knight uses LRT or Load Removed Time which is real time minus loads. Other games that have functional in game timers (like celeste) just use the games timer
median wasp
Oh, I didn’t actually know that RTA used to mean non-segmented
night sierra
tas stands for tool assisted speedrun
it's not a human playing the game, it's a predefined set of inputs that a computer runs into the game
weary root
Yeah RTA also used in Japan as the word for speedrunning
nova gust
Whats the best version for speedrunning
steady lynx
Depends on the category and ruleset