speedrunning

[knotty vigil]

i think i may have found another metod thats really fast

[weary root]

I think the fastest method is fluke tunnel but it requires dive for nmg categories

[steady lynx]

If you're not doing nmg you probably don't even need to essence grind though

[supple lagoon]

imo just noclip in

[weary root]

I'm sure we could come up with a low% glitched category that required farming if we thought hard enough

[supple lagoon]

anyways how do I stop falling into acid

[steady lynx]

Low% nsoob moment

[supple lagoon]

I got aspid spike twice a row

wait sorry for ping

[steady lynx]

May Verulean be remembered forever

[supple lagoon]

but I lost so match time in fungal and gp from acid

like fr I lost 67 seconds

[weary root]

the solution is to not fall into the acid 🙂

[supple lagoon]

I am bad though

I also failed squit pogo like 37 times but whatever

aspid spike is based though

I might run again today

[weary root]

but seriously most of the movement in those areas is fairly consistent and doesn't involve falling into acid
watch a run or check out an any% video guide and copy the movement there

[steady lynx]

Speedrunning is like programming

We just copy eachother and nobody knows who found the strats

[supple lagoon]

yeah but that takes too much effort and practice

I want to spend as little time in overworld as possible

overworld drains my soul

[weary root]

practise is how you get better unfortunately

[supple lagoon]

so I should just brute force it

[steady lynx]

Just watch someone else do a full run and try to copy it i guess

Not me, I'm bad

[weary root]

watch gusten's any% run

[steady lynx]

I use the optimal route

My only claims to fame is categories nobody ever heard of

Who the heck runs All Bosses and All Achievements?

[arctic orbit]

that’s a very large

[round inlet]

Why are WCS rules... that way?

[stuck raptor]

Because that's what the community decided

[round inlet]

fair enough, they just seem weird - and also possibly ambiguous in their purpose?
Like, say there's some shade skip. You set up your shade to comply with the rules, then you save-quit back to the bench, then you WCS past your shade. The rules don't require you to kill your shade. Then you do some stuff somewhere else and the fastest way to get where you want to go next is to benchwarp again and shade skip again, so you just WCS again. If there was a purpose to having to set up your shade (which I'm not clear that there was), this completely circumvents it because you get to skip one of the setups by just keeping your shade there. And if the point was to keep the WCS route similar to the non-WCS route, which is the only goal I can think of, the requirement about space states actually ruins that goal, because now the WCS route has to play with a broken soul gauge for a while. But you never broke any rules - the room state of "broken soul gauge" is, of course, always available to the player.

Or, I don't know, maybe I'm overlooking the real point, which is that WCS is cool and people wanted to keep it legal without it being, like, deeply required, and just wanted to hack together a set of rules that basically does that. And I guess this is definitely an edge case.

But I also feel like this topological definition of route doesn't come about without attention to edge cases

[arctic orbit]

ye we know it’s goofy

people just like wcs

because haha funny wall animation while in air

[stable quarry]

We have RMG where wcs is unrestricted, but no one runs it because it sucks..

The wcs is fun the run really isn't

[round inlet]

RMG?

...Really... major glitches?

Ridiculous major glitches?

oh

restricted

maybe

[radiant dragon]

Im trying to route a specific run on my own, and im trying to calculate fairly precise geo amounts for specific splits so i know precisely how many enemies to kill and geo deposits to worry about.

But it seems online resources don't give specific geo amounts for geo deposits like they do for enemies, unless there's a resource on this i may have missed?

[stable quarry]

Yes

[round inlet]

oh I guess you'd mainly be talking about no main menu storage probably

[stable quarry]

If your going fast you will miss some anyways so you don't need to be to exact. Then do a run if you end up having way more than you need then you just cut something out

[round inlet]

idk how the rando works internally but it might have data files in there somewhere

but an iterative approach like ekkoet is suggesting is probably better

[stable quarry]

NMG, NMMS and AG are the main categories. But RMG, NLDG, NSOOB also exist. I might have forgotten s few

[round inlet]

oh, huh, didn't even see those in category extensions

[stable quarry]

They are not on the board, we have spreadsheets. Most of them where on the board before becoming outdated.

[steady lynx]

Ekkoet, you forgot the best history glitchset

Glitchless

[stable quarry]

I don't encourage people to not play the game

[pale bramble]

Does anyone have the route for any% nmg? Im wanna try it

[stable quarry]

Vs, dash, claw, dream nail, watcher knights, lantern, csash, uumuu, herrah, thk

[stable quarry]

Little more in dept https://pastebin.com/zKke8sDC

[sturdy glade]

No anyag pasta

[weary root]

they specified nmg

[sturdy glade]

Oh

Unread

[steady lynx]

Time to write the way too long anynmg pasta

[stable quarry]

Just write a a1uba pasta instead

[steady lynx]

First you bad float to cliffs, then you do an airwalk jump followed by a few superslides, kill Hornet, get dash and kill the aluba

[stable quarry]

Not cringe route

The cool slower route

[steady lynx]

I'm gonna be honest, the worst part of dash first is the airwalk jump

I think I'll just do claw first unless I want to compete with Krythom

[manic kite]

So i have downgraded my HK version to 1.2.2.1 and made backups of my saves

in another folder

can I just delete the ones (which I have backups of) in the original folder?

[verbal stag]

yeah if you want to

[wraith trellis]

<@&283547423706447872>

thanks mods!

[manic kite]

Why did my game become weird, after I have downparched to 1.2.2.1?

The watcher knights are kinda buggy, sometimes, when one does the jump attack, he does the first big jump, and then the jump animation stops, he (the not-rolling) watcher knight gets fired up in the air, and then he falls down

[sturdy glade]

Sounds like 1221 to me

[scenic quest]

My friend is having a glitch with livesplit showing this after initially seeming to be working, but when he entered the run, it didnt autosplit or allow him to split with keybinds so he opened it again and it just shows this, anyone have a similiar bug or a fix to this?

[sacred thunder]

For help regarding livesplit stuff you will have better luck in the help sections of the speedrun server (pinned here), do make sure to take a look at the ressources pinned in relevant channels though

[mild knot]

Hey

I was thinking about getting into speed running this game

I’m a bit rusty since I haven’t played in a while but when I was playing I’d consider myself quite good

I was wondering if I should start speed running it?

[knotty vigil]

sure

[mild knot]

Ok i guess I’ll start learning

[manic kite]

Is that normal?

Also everything feels weird

Like

Really weird

I did manage to do some 1221 skips

But that didn't matter, cause I died on watcher knights 4 times and twice on Uumuu

So speed didn't have to do anything with that run

[arctic orbit]

that’s normal 1221 behavior

[sturdy glade]

cope 1221 has relatively massive input delay compared to 1.5 or 1.4

[random narwhal]

that does explain alot

[sturdy glade]

You'll get used to it (probably)

[steady lynx]

You either get used to it or become a 1432+ runner

[sturdy glade]

Yeah

Or a 1424 runner

[steady lynx]

Worst ending

Unless it's 1424 NMMS

(Just saying, NMMS is a good ruleset, we allow WCS everywhere)

[manic kite]

And why havn't I ever seen a speedrun where that happens?

[manic kite]

sad used-to-current-patch sounds

[manic kite]

[manic kite]

But that changes so much

So much less skips

From the opening of the menu during falling to fall faster, over hitting the lever trough the floor in city of tears, all the way to using the nail faster

But everything else about that versin is bs

[steady lynx]

"using the nail faster"

[random narwhal]

it happens all the time for me

[manic kite]

My english is shit, ik

Sometimes

Sometimes it's ok

[manic kite]

Same, I also habe massive fps drops

[random narwhal]

rip

[manic kite]

From 410, all the way down to like 160

[random narwhal]

i limit mine at 250

[manic kite]

For a sec or 2

[random narwhal]

u on a laptop or pc?

[manic kite]

Pc

And a pretty ok-ish one tbh

[random narwhal]

then i recommend checking ur pc settings bc drops like that not normal

if nvidia gpu set it to max performance

same with power settings

[manic kite]

Nah, I have amd gpu

[random narwhal]

unlucky

max ur fps where it doesn't drop

[manic kite]

1.5 years ago nvidia was way too expensive

[random narwhal]

consistency > fps

[manic kite]

Yeah

[arctic orbit]

Because you haven’t watched enough runs yet, it happens quite often to the average any% runner

I suggest you watch a few other runs, mostly in the 35m-40m range if you want to find that glitch in a run

[stable quarry]

It is common enough that most runners have seen it but it doesn't happen often enough to be on most pbs

[manic kite]

Is the run still valid?

[stuck raptor]

unless their AI completely broke and they stand still, yes

which I don't think has ever happened with WKs

[manic kite]

WK are a pain in the ass

[stuck raptor]

even then, uncontrollable boss behavior like that (broken AI) usually just results in a time penalty now instead of a lost run

especially in the pantheons, since it used to happen a lot on the soul warrior fight at like the 4 hour mark of a 112% run

so that rule was changed for runner sanity

[manic kite]

Cool

Are fireball skips possible on controller?

Or am I just stupid?

Or are they just too hard for me lol?

[stuck raptor]

yes they are

make sure you're using the quick cast button

not the healing button

[random narwhal]

first time under an hour :D

[wintry violet]

how to spedrun am tryig to ge achievement

[steady lynx]

?srpsa

[sick raven]

Reminder: This channel is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602

[pastel trellis]

What's the intended way into Deepnest? By fighting the Mantis Lords?

[formal bough]

a. why are you asking about intended in #speedrunning
b. there is no one intended way

[stuck raptor]

any of the entrances.

so.... 3 intended ways into deepnest

[pastel trellis]

Wasn't sure If there was a superior was, I always fight mantis lords

[stuck raptor]

what does "superior" mean

[pastel trellis]

Fastest/ most optimal

[stuck raptor]

for speedrun purposes?

[pastel trellis]

Yes

[stuck raptor]

then that's definitely not mantis lords

they are not required to beat the game at all

[formal bough]

depends on the route, but never mantis lords yeah

[pastel trellis]

Well I always go fight them after getting mantis claw. That might be why I'm having trouble getting the achievement then

[formal bough]

you can follow this guide

[stuck raptor]

probably not. the achievement time is very lenient

^

[pastel trellis]

Ah, gotcha ill try the other route

[mint mist]

Is there a mod for any% NMG that makes lever skips and the baldur fast kill possible? Is it just QoL?

[digital jewel]

it's an older patch. 1.2.2.1

[mint mist]

ah ok thanks

[stable quarry]

Does QoL even make the quick kill possible?

[mint mist]

I’m not sure, that’s why I asked :)

I have very limited speed running knowledge

But I’m trying to get into it now!

[stable quarry]

Wait what is 35/35?

[mint mist]

I beat the game 100% on two platforms lol

PS4

I thought it was funny :D

[stable quarry]

PS4 has 35 achivements?

[mint mist]

Yeah they don’t have like the zote achievements or the nailsmith achievements and some others

No speedrun achievements

[gusty iron]

I am trying to learn some speed running strategies should I just watch like fastest run or like a random video on yt

[formal bough]

What's your goal? If you want to start properly speedrunning it's probably best to join the speedrunning server (link in pins) and find the categories you're interested in and look at their pins

[gusty iron]

Ok thanks

I am trying to just beat the game as fast as possible

[stuck raptor]

for the achievement or for actual leaderboard competition

[gusty iron]

Actual leaderboard

[stuck raptor]

?pins

[sick raven]

Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png

[gusty iron]

I amnt even using dark mode lol

[manic kite]

How does one set up that timer?

[formal bough]

that's livesplit, see

?guides

is that not a command

well https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/cg9vl

[manic kite]

Thanks

[pulsar sparrow]

I know its not low time but its my first attempt

[manic kite]

Geez

My first attempt was 5:20h

[pulsar sparrow]

Oh

[manic kite]

But i didnt use the any% route, I got everything also shadow dash, and monarch wings and stuff

[pulsar sparrow]

That explains it

[manic kite]

Yeah

Now my personal best is 1:14h

On 1.4.3.2

[pulsar sparrow]

I kind of got lost trying to get to uumuu without shadow dash and lost a lot of time

[manic kite]

I have downpatched to 1.2.2.1 yesterday and am still trying to get used to the weird controls

[manic kite]

I watched the tas like 4 times before my first attempt with the route

And still looked at some things during the run

[rapid nest]

copying tas strats is extemely based

[pulsar sparrow]

I forgot i had to go from the leg eater

[manic kite]

Not strats, just the route

[pulsar sparrow]

If i get into speedrunning i might have to start looking into these strats

[manic kite]

What are strats even?

Strats against bosses?

Or other kinds of strats?

[sturdy glade]

Enter the Speedrun server and type ;any

[manic kite]

Thanks 👀

[mint mist]

good job on sub 3h!

[stable quarry]

Dam, 5 days and 20 hours

[manic kite]

Ofc

140 hours

[tardy sapphire]

do someone know where to find the infos to setup my livesplit for hk anypercent speedrun ?

[stuck raptor]

In the pinned Speedrun server

[tardy sapphire]

yes and where ?

[knotty vigil]

Read the message

Carefully

[thick pendant]

Wannabe speedrunner here! I tried installing livesplit and following instructions on the wiki, but autosplitting doesn't seem to work. The timer doesn't start on his own and loads are still counted even though I set it to game time.

Any help'd be appreciated!

[thorn jasper]

if you didn't get your lss file from hksplitmaker (pinned), do that. if it continues not working, join the pinned server, go to #tech-support, and see the pinned livesplit troubleshooting message there

[thick pendant]

I did download from hksplitmaker, so i'll join the thing

Thanks!

[graceful anchor]

Hey

Anyone gonna reply

[steady lynx]

no

[graceful anchor]

Y

[steady lynx]

Too tired

[sturdy glade]

Gusten you're allowed to sleep you know

[stable quarry]

Good night Gusten

[vagrant warren]

most people aren't here to just like, say hi to random people. If you have a question, ask & you're more likely to get a response

[thorn jasper]

omg hi Colette

[sturdy glade]

Hey

[vagrant warren]

omg hi slaurent

[steady lynx]

omg hi 😳

[sturdy glade]

Gusten why are you not asleep

[vagrant warren]

omg hi Gusten

[steady lynx]

Aurora borealis

[sturdy glade]

Aurora borealis

At this time of year

At this time of day

In this part of the country

Concentrated entirely in your kitchen?

[thorn jasper]

*Localized, within

[steady lynx]

No like, we have it this time of year

Really pretty, you should try it

[sturdy glade]

Yeah I thought that one was wrong lol

[sturdy glade]

[hardy marlin]

My first any percent speedrun

1 hour 47 min

20 minutes of that were spent on QGA

[rapid nest]

deepnest remains superior

[knotty vigil]

Hi. for the Level Leaderboard, in the Pantheon of Hallownest rules it inhibits:

Breaking Boss AI such that they become unresponsive.
what would this entail? can my run be invalidated at random if something happens to the boss?

[steady lynx]

For example Soul Warrior can rarely have a glitch happen where it walks into the wall forever

Hornet also has some issues

[knotty vigil]

ok.. thanks

[steady lynx]

I'd join the pinned server and ask in il combat

[stable quarry]

Is that a fancy name for northern lights?

[knotty vigil]

yeah

[manic kite]

Why is everyone so fast on their first any% run?

[hazy parcel]

can someone route a stupid 112 run idea I had?

[stuck raptor]

Sure, you can

[hazy parcel]

fine

[rapid nest]

whats the idea

[hazy parcel]

112 minimum dashes

[steady lynx]

3 to get 112% completion
4 to get 112% and beat P5

Assuming cringe ruleset, otherwise you can probably do both without ever dashing, but you have to be creative for some stuff

[wraith trellis]

Where's the mandatory dash for p5?

[steady lynx]

In birthplace to get to voidheart

Today someone learned that voidheart doesn't add % if you already have Kingsoul

[hazy parcel]

yep. then you have markoth, traitor lord, and sharp shadow. I wanted the absolute minimum to 112 and beat the game, so it's just those 3. white palace is also fully possible without dashing or charms

[random narwhal]

it's the aperture science ship

black mesa wanted it baaaad

[steady lynx]

That is just the Borealis

[random narwhal]

wasn't it named the full thing

nope just borealis u r correct whoops

[steady lynx]

I'm trying to think of a way to get to the egg dashless in noclip

Oh you can dgate in room dupes on 1.3+

Yeah that should be easy

[proud anvil]

Aurora Borealis?!
At this time of year,
At this time of day,
In this part of the country,
Localized ENTIRELY within your kitchen?!

[zenith fjord]

What mod can I use to give myself infinite soul/health to practise tunnel/acid/shade soul skips?

[stuck raptor]

Debug

[zenith fjord]

Debug... what?

[steady lynx]

Debug mod

[zenith fjord]

ah two words

much better

big <3

[formal bough]

you asked what mod. the answer is the mod called debug mod

[stable quarry]

I love how speedrunners just use the least amount of words possible

[steady lynx]

Fast good

[stable quarry]

Indeed

I imagine Gusten wrote 快好

[knotty vigil]

Correct

[steady lynx]

I was thinking about it but the mods would've objected

[knotty vigil]

I think doing it once is alright just don’t write entire convos or some rule breaking phrase and all lol

[stable quarry]

Imagine someone asks for help and we all answer in chinese

[knotty vigil]

Lol

[steady lynx]

Monstah had a command like that

People used !chinese and it explained that it's faster, in Chinese

[manic kite]

How much faster?

Doesn't it save about the same time as 2 Uumuu cycles take?

[steady lynx]

On just Lemm text it's like 5 seconds saved compared to English

If you want to be funny and pick the slowest language that's French

[sturdy glade]

should've done that for seg 12

[manic kite]

I think I will stay at english

It doesnt save enough time to be worth it

[steady lynx]

English is actually fastest for the best any%

[manic kite]

[steady lynx]

This is NMMS propaganda

[manic kite]

Is there a specific way to get 2 cycle uumuu?

[sturdy glade]

nmms propoganda wahoo

[manic kite]

Or just smash buttons?

[sturdy glade]

yes there is

NOT smash buttons

[manic kite]

Tell me

[sturdy glade]

there are like 6 setups

[steady lynx]

The people in the pinned server know it better

If you ask in any-percent there

[sturdy glade]

yeah lmfao I'm a massive skill issue

[manic kite]

I want to learn the ancient techniques

[sturdy glade]

this

[manic kite]

Aight

[rapid nest]

shriek 2 times and knock uumuu too high into the ceiling and then panic and fall off the platform

[sturdy glade]

i've never done that before

that would be silly

[manic kite]

I have been trough that

Just about 500 times

Even better if after you fall down he does an attack and the knockback from the attack knocks you off the platform again

[sturdy glade]

wait you're using shriek?

[manic kite]

No

But in pantheon

[sturdy glade]

pantheons sure do exist

[manic kite]

I have failed at sly in p3 about 50000 times, and everytime i wanted to retrie him I also had to do uumuu

[steady lynx]

My favourite Uumuu 1 cycle is two fluke casts and 3 nail slashes

[sturdy glade]

my favorite is ddark past uumuu arena

[steady lynx]

All Bosses and 1xx must kill it tho

At least good 1xx

[manic kite]

I think im going to stream my runs on twitch

In case something unusual happens

Like 1st try watcher knights

I hate those mfs

[steady lynx]

They do be a roadblock starting out

[manic kite]

Right when I started to get good at them, I downpatched to 1.2.2.1

I needed 6 attempts for them on my 1st try in 1221

[ember vapor]

I want to know how to start speed running

Does anyone have any tips?

[vagrant warren]

#1 play a lot
#2 join server in pins

[hardy marlin]

Practice bosses with no upgrades

[ember vapor]

Thank you

[hazy parcel]

I'm honestly unhappy with it

[ornate tangle]

then do another run where you go faster

[granite latch]

idk if this is the right channel, but if it is does anyone know how to set up autosplitter for path of pain speedrun

[cosmic perch]

Hello! You can download the auto splits pre-made here: https://hksplitmaker.com/
For follow up questions I'd recommend asking in #tech-support in the speedrunning server (linked in pins of this channel)

[granite latch]

thanks

[random narwhal]

massive improvement over previous splits for this section

[stable quarry]

No sedic slashes

I can feel the pain in that mantispogo

[fierce venture]

Is there an optimal route for a any% glitchless speedrun? (Please @ me on reply)

[stable quarry]

Glitchless or NMG?

[fierce venture]

Completely glitchless

So also no ep and stuff

[stable quarry]

ep?

[coral shore]

explosion pogo

[fierce venture]

Explosion pogo

[stable quarry]

Is that even a glitch?

I though that was just a skip

[fierce venture]

Well now that you say it

I guess a skipless route doesnt exist?

[coral shore]

Define skip

[fierce venture]

Stuff like ep or shadeskip to bluelake

[stable quarry]

Is Save and quit to warp to bench a skip?

[fierce venture]

Nah

Wouldn’t say that

[stable quarry]

is masquito skip a skip?

[knotty vigil]

Would gp fireball be a skip

[fierce venture]

That the only one i can do 😂

[coral shore]

is going through a dark room a skip

[fierce venture]

😭

[stable quarry]

Like optimal skipless would probably get dive then cdash, then ismas and wings. then wk, Uumuu and herrah to THK

Idk though

[fierce venture]

So just the casual route

[stable quarry]

I guess you could still do SS route that doesn't do any skips exept in greenpath?

Exept dark deepnest

[coral shore]

that's why I'm asking to define it. Like... there is no known dev intended route, since who tf knows what tc intended. And TC did intend certain skips as they admitted, so defining a skip is the only way to create a skip-less ruleset

[stable quarry]

Oh and go get wings and ismas at some point

[knotty vigil]

Didn’t tc say that spire pogo was intended

[coral shore]

yes

[fierce venture]

Spire pogo?

Idk that one

[knotty vigil]

Watchers spire

[fierce venture]

Oh where you go in without wings

You mean

[knotty vigil]

Yeah

[coral shore]

~~you pogo the spire to ascend to gorb ~~

so like, if you define what skip is - we can make a route. The same way glitchless. If you define a glitch in a way that would make it easy to differ, even if not everybody agrees with it, then it's possible to make a route

[fierce venture]

Gorb 😎

[coral shore]

the other way to do it is go through all stuff and explicitly say to ban it

[fierce venture]

I guess skip is harder to define than i thought 😂

I guess id say a skip is taking a shortcut using methods that aren’t necessarily intended to be used in that place, like mosquito skip or ep where you, on a normal playthrough would use cloak and claw

[coral shore]

how does one know what is intended

[stuck raptor]

ask team cherry about all of them

individually

[coral shore]

so true Mickely

[fierce venture]

😭

[stuck raptor]

I'm sure they'll take time to respond

[coral shore]

And patch it out

[fierce venture]

Aight dming one rn

[fierce venture]

1.6 coming soon?

[stable quarry]

So is spirepogo allowed or no? aka wings or no wings?

[fierce venture]

no wings then

they probably intended the mosquito skip too

Kinda sus to have an enemy in that exact location

[stuck raptor]

they actually intended noclip

so debug is allowed

just zoom through things and fly

[fierce venture]

Benchwarp was prob intended too

So just bw to black egg immediately

[stuck raptor]

infinite jump is also intended

noclip and infinite jump they used in development

[fierce venture]

100%

Thats why they called it debug mod

[stuck raptor]

and why should the devs get special treatment and use things we can't?

https://tenor.com/view/equality-is-a-fundamental-right-dwayne-johnson-the-rock-seven-bucks-equality-is-a-basic-right-gif-17822070

[fierce venture]

Exactly

They should give us the ss beta and access to developement already

[zenith fjord]

Why not the source code while we are at it?

[fierce venture]

aight I found a pretty good NMG route that doesnt seem too hard to do, it only has one acid skip to archives and a shade skip to blue lake which shouldnt be too hard to do

[coral shore]

wait, so you were looking for just a not hard route?

[fierce venture]

yeah

im trying to get into speedrunning but im fairly new to it

the one from rusts video seemed pretty promising

[coral shore]

oh, that would make it easier. Yeah, to not do hard acid skips you can just go through deepnest after monomon. It loses only 40 seconds optimally

And to skip explosion pogo you can also just go around normally

[fierce venture]

yee

i could go for izmas tear to prevent all acid skips, but that will cost me a lot of time

[coral shore]

no need for ismas

the acid skip in forgotten crossroads is very lenient

[fierce venture]

is that one easier than qgs?

[rapid nest]

much easier

[coral shore]

infinitely

[fierce venture]

oh alr

nice

thanks for the help guys :)

[rapid nest]

gl with your run

[fierce venture]

imma try to do like idk one or two practice runs today

never done that before

[fierce venture]

thanks :)

one more question

is the speedrun mod just the QoL mod or is that a modified version of it?

[knotty vigil]

Modified

[fierce venture]

ah alr

thanks

[fierce venture]

aight its time for my first attempt

btw does that speerun clock thingy you see in videos also come with a mod?

or is that an obs thing?

[coral shore]

You shouldn't use mods when doing runs

Mods are not allowed for runs that are submitted to speedrun.com boards. The application we use for timing is called livesplit

[coral shore]

Damn that's crazy

[digital jewel]

hopefully

you

[stuck raptor]

<@&283547423706447872>

[south herald]

Thanks

[digital jewel]

nice now this convo makes no sense

pineapple

[ember imp]

pen

[fierce venture]

the speedrun QoL is not allowed eitheR?

oh i messed up cuz i cant do shadeskip like at all

[formal bough]

you aren't even allowed to have modding api installed

you'd want to verify steam integrity before running

[fierce venture]

interesting

well i dont wanna submit anything for now so idrc about the modding api not being installed

literally cant even shade skip

so i gotta practice that a bit

[stable quarry]

[coral shore]

use debug mod for practice

[stable quarry]

That is a thumbs up emote right?

[coral shore]

is a emote that shows agreement. Idk what means tho

[fierce venture]

prob a good idea

[stable quarry]

I mean it's a finger up I just don't know which one

[fierce venture]

clearly the middle finger

[stable quarry]

ok

[fierce venture]

[stable quarry]

Gonna go to sleep now enough practice for today.

[fierce venture]

woah

you beat the game in 2 minutes

not bad dude

[stable quarry]

Nah this is one split

[fierce venture]

damn

[stable quarry]

Though saving 40 sec in one split is kinda huge for a 40 minute run

[fierce venture]

is that a recording software addon or can you use that without obs?

[fierce venture]

no idea what a split is, but sounds good

[stable quarry]

You just add it as a window in obs

[fierce venture]

oh ok

so not usable without it

sadge

my pc isnt good enough for recording and playing games at the same time

[coral shore]

it is

its a livesplit

Its an app

[fierce venture]

no idea how that works

does it track what i do in the game?

[coral shore]

do you know what app is?

we have autosplitter built in

so in case of hk - kinda

[fierce venture]

well i know what an application is yes

[stable quarry]

Each of these are splits. My pb btw

[sturdy glade]

It's just a timer that can pause itself during loads and lap whenever appropriate

[coral shore]

yeah its just a timer

[fierce venture]

oh so it does recognise what you do ingame?

[sturdy glade]

Yes

[fierce venture]

cool

[coral shore]

not exactly, but thats the idea

[sturdy glade]

But only to autosplit

[fierce venture]

whats that now

[coral shore]

https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/cg9vl

[coral shore]

just follow this guide

[fierce venture]

alr

thanks

[stray elm]

Got my first under 5 hour run 🖤

No extra soul(no vessel fragments), and 6 masks

[dusk tiger]

nice!

[stray elm]

I only got 9 charms XD

[stable quarry]

Which ones? We uchally just get shaman

[delicate basalt]

The photo I took is super blurry but just got the under 20 hours 100%! Idk if it’s a speedrun but it felt like it to me

[tacit igloo]

nice

[silver robin]

Gg

[ruby tulip]

this is weird lmao but i got sick of my hands not working so i beat white palace in under 6 min using only my feet https://youtu.be/BSzovbIJ0No

[coral shore]

Coco stop being inspirational challenge (impossible)

Huge ggs

[stray elm]

Wayward Compass, Soul Catcher, Grubsong, Spell Twister, Steady Body, Fury of the Fallen, Flukenest, Defenders Crest, Dreamshield. Obviously I could’ve done the run without getting fury, defenders crest, and dreamshield but I was preparing my run for 112%

[hardy stirrup]

hhh I haven't played in months and decided to go through PoP today for funsies man i'm really rusty

took me 40min to clear, my PB is sub 6min

getting locked into animations is really throwing me off my game, not used to the delay anymore

like when I know I pogoed wrong but can't do anything about it because I'm still mid swing

also, I keep slipping on walls

do I just do inputs too fast? do I need to wait longer for the previous animation to end because I find a lot of inputs just get ignored or something

*montage of me sliding on walls for 3 minutes straight trying to get the right spot for last room dash but the cdash won't stick*

[stray elm]

Dash into the spot you want to cdash on and immediately use it when you attach to the wall

[hardy stirrup]

ye that helps most of the time 👍

[ember dune]

OOOoOgGhHhHG big accomplishment for me

[ember dune]

POG

[plush kernel]

such a different world from #hk-discussion

im on a jungle adventure rn

[stray elm]

Have you u also tried the thorns skip skip in PoP yet?

I gotta try it the next time I’m in PoP

I have to clip it to prove I did it

(Whenever i do it for the first time)

[woven bobcat]

I just did a meme speedrun called radiance% that I made on discord I beat radiance and the hollow knight in 2 minutes and 45 seconds

the charms I used was shaman stone steadybody quickslash and mark of pride

[stray elm]

You should try radiance and pure vessel next, see how fast you can do it

[hazy parcel]

not sure how much time it saves, if any, and I don't know if it's been discovered, but the true ending blue lake shade skip is possible with just one cast

[woven bobcat]

@stray elm bet

[stray elm]

You use spells for that?

[hazy parcel]

yeah? true ending does. any% doesn't

[woven bobcat]

yea

[weary root]

you can do the TE shade skip with just dash

[stray elm]

I get claw before I do it ofc, then I just hit it once before doing the skip, claw up the wall, dash into the shade, get hit, and downward nail swing to get up and get the shade back

(I have one nail upgrade by this point)

Or you can do it the harder way without claw

[stray elm]

True ending or any%, Id do it this way

[sturdy glade]

uh

idk how you have claw in te there

[stray elm]

Wait…

I was meaning for the salubra shade skip, what does te mean?

[hazy parcel]

yeah, but true ending gets claw after that

[stray elm]

Ooooohh

I’m dumb, te is true ending XD

[stray elm]

Idk, I get claw first in my route

[sturdy glade]

I mean 0 fireball is doable

[hazy parcel]

yes, but no

[steady lynx]

Me when sawayoshi

[sturdy glade]

Sawa is

Questionably human

[steady lynx]

Sawa is like Monstah

Simply too good

[thin flume]

this could maby be usful. It take sote time to not dye when you do it

[sturdy glade]

Any shot you could make that an mp4

[thin flume]

sorry took a moment

[sturdy glade]

That's just lag being a thing

[thin flume]

well it lets me out of the elavtor

[sturdy glade]

I see that

It also happens to be useless

[thin flume]

i figred

but who knows

[sturdy glade]

me

I would say that if I wasn't actually just an idiot about this game

[steady lynx]

Patch?

[thin flume]

current

[knotty vigil]

Teach me the ways

My record is lile sub 5

[stable quarry]

It's all a matter of practice

[knotty vigil]

Its not my skips

I succeed the skips like every 3 attempts

Gtg

[stable quarry]

Then you should practice. Tbh I still struggle a little with epogo and qga. (And one fb Greenpath but I doubt I will go for that in runs anyways

[magic sun]

How does one do the vengeful spirit skip in greenpath?

[somber schooner]

i tried to go fast for the first time, and got mothwing cloak at around 24 minutes. how bad's that?

[fierce venture]

Sounds pretty slow

I can get mantis claw in less than 20

[knotty vigil]

Ill explain. You turn around and cast 2 fireballs which will hold u in the air. Then u turn around again and walk to the platform

[knotty vigil]

O hi beef

I seen u in undertale server

[somber schooner]

hi

[stable quarry]

Starting out you should aim for a 9-10 minnute mwc split

(imo)

[somber schooner]

ok

[stable quarry]

You want to jump off the edge of the platform, turn after the apex of your jump and fireball 1-3 times to make it to the ledge.

If you are doing multiple fireballs hold neutrall inbetween them and hold toward the ledge (left) after casting the last fireball.

[feral gorge]

wait really? that's awesome, i got 9 minutes on the first attempt in which i actually got dash (which was like my 7th attempt because i kept dying before false knight)

[rancid gull]

My first official speedrun

[stable quarry]

18%

[rancid gull]

I full killed false knight for some reason

Thought I would need geo

[stable quarry]

And? Normal is 16

[rancid gull]

Dk where

Probably got an extra stag

[stable quarry]

Gg did you record it?

[rancid gull]

Nah

I did a few pauses

[rancid gull]

Thanks

[stable quarry]

Is it 1221 or 1432+ though?

[rancid gull]

Wym?

[stable quarry]

Patch

On 1221 it would be 681th place and on 1432+ it would be 526th place

[stable quarry]

Did you downpatch to 1221?

[rancid gull]

Nah i don't know how to

[rancid gull]

Oh

I thought i would get 1000th

[stable quarry]

Sadly there arn't 1000 total runs

[stable quarry]

I hope you will do another run for top 500 though

[rancid gull]

Probablyl

AIming for sub 90

[stable quarry]

Top 500 is 1:20

1:30 would be 508 though

The ranking doesn't really matter but it can be fun as a goal

[rancid gull]

Yea

If I get better at the bosses i'll prolly shave off 20 mins

thank you for the support ❤️

[stable quarry]

If I get better at bosses I'll prolly save off 3 minnutes

Maybe 4

[stable quarry]

Np

[rancid gull]

:)

[stable quarry]

Feel free to join the pinned server if you want accses to a ton of resourses, strats and helpful people.

[rancid gull]

Oke

[stable quarry]

And also a little cheat code. Use livesplit to time your runs because that can save you multiple minnutes by removing any time spent in loads (assuming your on pc)

In my pb livesplit saved 5 minnutes

[rancid gull]

Oh yea I’ll do that

[rancid gull]

What’s your pb?

[stable quarry]

39 min on 1221 and 44 min on 1432

[rancid gull]

Oh jeez

That’s rly good

[stable quarry]

I know I have skill issue

[rancid gull]

Nah

You’re 5 mins away from the wr

[stable quarry]

5 min? Wr is 32 on 1221 and 33 on 1432

Closest is 6 min off smh

[rancid gull]

Dk I’m just estimating lol

[stable quarry]

I have an unverifiable 37 on 1221 though. Feels bad. (I took a break)

[rancid gull]

Damn

[stable quarry]

Thanks, I've gotten desent after running for a year +

[rancid gull]

Wow

[stable quarry]

Atchally 2 years soon

[rancid gull]

Cool

[stable quarry]

A little nervous for the turnament next month ngl

[thin flume]

I am completly new to runnong the game any tips

?

[steady lynx]

Click the pin button, join the pinned server

[thin flume]

what?

[steady lynx]

?pins

[sick raven]

Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png

[stray elm]

You gotta jump at the very last pixel of the ground, turn right as you get to just above the ground where hornet was standing, then use VS. obviously if you need to, use it more than one time so you have better of a chance

[stable quarry]

That fireball was a little early

[stray elm]

Still made it thooooooo

[stable quarry]

Doing it slightly later makes the jump less tight. Aka good for consistency

[stray elm]

I’ve done it like this since I got the skip

And so far I’ve gotten it every time

[stable quarry]

Ok

[stray elm]

Lol

[stray elm]

You are right though

[stable quarry]

I don't get it every time in practice I got it about 70% of the time

Most misses where jumping early/ late though

Or just a really bad turnaround

[stray elm]

Yeahhhh the turnaround is the hardest part tbh

[stable quarry]

Though going for 2fb looses like 0.2-0.3 sec and makes it allmost free

[coral shore]

going for 2fb is better because the jump is way less tight and more cool and more fun 👍

[stable quarry]

Going for 1fb on the secound one saves 0.3-0.4 though

[steady lynx]

Just going for a float is easiest imo

[coral shore]

float is technically 1fb or 0fb

if you do slowfall instead

[steady lynx]

slowfall kinda forces a hardfall which is cringe

[coral shore]

you can go into transition without falling onto the floor

[stable quarry]

Just enter transition before tuching the ground

Dam I got 🐌

[steady lynx]

As punishment I'll route dash first into All Bosses

[coral shore]

all of all bosses

[steady lynx]

Good All Bosses

Wait, that's just Hidden Dreams

[stable quarry]

Sounds like a reward to me.

[feral gorge]

apparently i just can't do the normal 1.2.2.1 epogo, i tried like 100 times and didn't get it right a single time. so i found an easier version that shouldn't be much slower, and it's so easy that i get it almost every time. it's probably already known, but here's a video anyway:

[sage moat]

Accidentally got main menu storage in a casual playthrough???

[steady lynx]

This is pause storage

[stable quarry]

There is no way that is easier

[sturdy glade]

That's pantapogo

[feral gorge]

well, the first pogo isn't off of the exploding thing, which has a very confusing hitbox

and neither is the second, that one is off of the actual explosion

so i can actually see what i need to hit, which makes it much easier compared to normal epogo

[rapid nest]

that might not even be pause storage i think its just fury early control

[steady lynx]

So

Just the thing that normally happens on Fury for everyone

[rapid nest]

yep

[stable moon]

Definitely not pantapogo

Pogos the explosion not the projectile

[carmine canopy]

i think i found new tech, its like scream skipping but without taking damage

i'll try to demonstrate by giving footage, but it will take a bit for me to get it

[sturdy glade]

Do you open inventory

[carmine canopy]

yeah

[sturdy glade]

Not nmg

And known obviously

[carmine canopy]

oh

sorry

[sturdy glade]

You're fine dw

[carmine canopy]

i just couldn't find it anywhere

[sturdy glade]

Yeah, glitched runs are harder to find

[weary root]

Glitched runs also don't use it if they have invuln or bench storage

[sturdy glade]

Which is super duper common during bosses with screams as they're more late game

[smoky sluice]

Anyone have any tips for any% watchers? they are the one thing that kills my runs at this point

[sturdy glade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc-_Vg-Y8ME

[smoky sluice]

tysm

[fickle glacier]

i finally got a controller to speedrun easierrr

its my first ever controller

so itll take a bit of getting used to

[noble marlin]

Did it

[stable quarry]

Woo, gg

[noble marlin]

Wooo, only 2 more achievements and then I wait for Silksong

[stable quarry]

No HK challenge runs

[noble marlin]

Nah, I’m not that skilled

[stable quarry]

Git gud

[arctic orbit]

which ones

speedrun 1 and 2?

or P5?

[sly terrace]

good man

[arctic orbit]

that’s called ouipogo

wait no

that’s pantapogo

holy shit

bro literally just found pantapogo on his own

[desert jolt]

Npc% run :you have to talk to all npcs

That would be fun

[feral gorge]

it's not pantapogo, it's not nearly as difficult as pantapogo and doesn't work in 1.4.3.2

[steady lynx]

This is more similar to firepogo but without the fireball

[lofty flare]

2 person itemsync run anyone?

[knotty vigil]

@random narwhal can u add me as ur friend i gotta ask a query

[random narwhal]

sure

[noble marlin]

Nightmare King Grimm and Sparing the Nailsmith

[random narwhal]

@knotty vigil sent u friend request

[arctic orbit]

idk it looks very similar to pantapogo

[sturdy glade]

It's pantapogo but slow so you catch the explosion instead of the actually core thingy

[arctic orbit]

shit that’s true

i forgot that pantapogo doesn’t pogo the explosion

[lofty flare]

my livesplit isnt working, can someone help?

[thorn jasper]

pinned server -> #tech-support -> pinned messages -> livesplit troubleshooting checklist

[mossy marsh]

I've been practicing watcher knights in any% NMG for almost 3 hours and I've beaten them once, I don't get it.

[sturdy glade]

Get hit less

Pay attention to the things they do before rolls and predict where they will go

Pogo more

[mossy marsh]

After the first watcher almost all of my swings are pogos

[sturdy glade]

In what way are you getting hit

[mossy marsh]

It feels like they frequently put me in undodgeable situations

[sturdy glade]

Don't let them get off screen simultaneously

[mossy marsh]

something like both bouncing out of sync or one rolls while one bounces, covering any direction I could move to.

[sturdy glade]

If they're both off screen approach

[mossy marsh]

What do you do when they split up and are on opposite sides of the arena?

[sturdy glade]

Approach one

Knowing what at least one is doing is infinitely better than neither

[mossy marsh]

When they split up I will go to one, then the other one bounces at Mach 4 and now I'm in that same situation where I'm against a wall and the ground and air are both not safe.

[vagrant warren]

patch matters quite a lot for Watchers - if you're on 1221 they can do the jebait bounce, if you're on 1.4+ they won't attack from offscreen, if you're on 1.5 they can do backrolls. Pest has a very good tutorial that's linked a bit above, but keep in mind patch differences depending on what you're running on

[mossy marsh]

I'm on 1.2.2.1

Off screen attacks are the biggest issue for me

[vagrant warren]

watch this if you haven't yet, tthe tutorial I was referring to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc-_Vg-Y8ME

[mossy marsh]

Is is a known bug that casting fireballs near walls sometimes instantly breaks the fireball even if you weren't shooting towards it?

[rapid nest]

yep

hungry walls

[sturdy glade]

Quite

[vagrant warren]

Only VS for what it's worth, since shade soul goes thru walls it doesn't get eaten even though it spawns behind you in the same way

[mossy marsh]

NKG took like 30 minutes in my casual run how is this so much worse?

[sturdy glade]

Low equipment

[mossy marsh]

Didn't realize that mattered so much

[sturdy glade]

I mean

You only have shade soul

You have old nail

You only have shamans stone

You have no mask upgrades

[plush kernel]

ROSE

[coral shore]

hi alva

[kindred nexus]

hey, wanted to ask a question about a TAS i was watching. essentially, does wall cling storage or dashing give you iframes? i haven't been active in a HK community in a good while, so it's possible i missed something and i wanted to check! the patch is 1221, and here's the screenshot of the weird moment i was trying to figure out lol

[stuck raptor]

art =/= hurtboxes

this just looks like the hitboxes are 1 pixel apart

[kindred nexus]

got it, thanks!

[dry topaz]

Anybody here planning on speedrunning SS

[weary root]

no

[stable moon]

Shaman stone, sharp shadow, spore shroom, stalwart shell, or shade soul? Those all seem like pretty weird end points. I guess you could rush go soul sanctum or stone sanctuary but those are pretty random areas.
Stag Stations? There’s a a category for that.
Snail shaman, sly’s shop, salubra’s shop? Weird npc choices but ok.
Sealed siblings? Bro just kill radiance

[digital jewel]

we weren't even planning on playing silksong

seems kinda lame tbh

[steady lynx]

When Silksong releases all the HK runners have agreed to become Garfield speedrunners instead

[sturdy glade]

Garfield kart peepoarrive

[gritty sapphire]

Anyone have a video that I can use to learn the speed run strats?

[stable quarry]

Bosses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-aCaVTAUtc&list=PLfkLKB8O1Ff0-AApWYqqgFjMcMMVaW_JH
Movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5yUX98-76A
Watcher Knights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc-_Vg-Y8ME

[sacred thunder]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1283091574
This can also help alternatively

I mean technically they didn’t specify anything

[gritty sapphire]

Thanks ♥️

[mossy marsh]

I can't do the aspid arena double spike kill consistently, one or both of them always lives

I don't feel like I'm doing anything different on the attempts where it does work.

[weary root]

what patch?

[mossy marsh]

1.2.2.1

I'm using the setup from the Any% NMG guide from Gwonkee

[knotty vigil]

iirc double spike in 1221 has some rng in it

in when the aspids spawn

[sturdy glade]

They can spawn a solid length of time apart

[mossy marsh]

The guide says it should work consistently tho

[sturdy glade]

It's consistent if you do it right

If you're late it will sometimes work

[delicate basalt]

Do I have to spoil soemthing if I say it

Oh wrong channel mb

[steady lynx]

Just don't spoil that Darth Vader is Luke's father

[stuck raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/gasp-in-spanish-spanish-gasp-gif-13289635

[stable quarry]

That is mostly for lp on 1221 I don't think it's nearly as big of a deal

[pure topaz]

Yo guys any speedrunning tips for a beginner who literally only watches Fireborn speedrun?

[weary root]

Watch fireborns any% tutorial playlist

[rose hemlock]

what category should i try first as a beginner?

just trying to get into speedrunning

[acoustic gale]

The old all skills route is pretty easy

Compared to other cats and new route

[steady lynx]

On 1432+ just non-cringe any% NMG and All Skills 1432+ NMG works

True Ending NMMS is pretty fun though

[acoustic gale]

Any% bosses can be a big barrier to entry though

[steady lynx]

It's still preferable to low%

[acoustic gale]

Low% watcher knights are in my nightmares

[steady lynx]

Low% THK is worse now that 1.4 is optimal

[sturdy glade]

And you can't even get spore shroom

[analog pawn]

Honestly though, if you find glitches to be cool TE nmms is a good starter category for that

[lofty flare]

Any% watcher knights are in mine

So many good runs

Lost to the darkness

[acoustic gale]

for real

took me like a week to even beat them with any% geart

[jade pasture]

second any% speedrun, fucking dogshit i want to do another one but its late

[gilded whale]

Are you able to c-dash to skip in this area and would it be better than the one in crossroads?

[rapid nest]

no theres an invisible wall on that acid pool specifically

[gilded whale]

K thx

[lofty flare]

Yeah, I had to learn that the hard way.

By trying it.

When I have time, I’m just gonna get a watcher knights save state so I can practice the roly poly assholes.

[feral gorge]

bruh
we need a category for speedruns with random invisible walls removed

[steady lynx]

It'd have like two runs total, kinda pointless, but go ahead

[feral gorge]

how many grass% runs have been done so far?

[steady lynx]

Four

[feral gorge]

(not comparing this to grass%, i just randomly thought of grass% and how it's not a category on speedrun.com iirc)

that is
much less than i expected

[steady lynx]

To become a src category we generally require a certain amount of demand for the category, and even then we'd probably put grass% on the very forgotten modded board

General idea is like 5+ runners who'd run it and an idea of that the category would still be ran months after being added

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSHyJ2ZdtTPvoudRJ_VAW_an61MumAHdsQOm4Z9wvn_ou73rxX9w9ydb_lDuyOTCnXvmb68HlMrjPYa/pubhtml here's the extension extension spreadsheet for the memest of meme categories

[feral gorge]

how has 100% been run only once

(i know full completion is 112% obviously but 100% still seems like something that would be considered significant)

[rare grotto]

Hey, friends, just a question

How do you guys beat Brooding Mawlek?

But really fast?

[steady lynx]

The real 100% category is in misc on the main board

[lofty flare]

What equipment?

[acoustic gale]

spam ddark

[fierce venture]

i hate that shit

[bold spade]

Does roomduping dupe dreamer percentage too

[sturdy glade]

No

Having a % is a switch

It's not a button

[rapid nest]

i mean for mask shards and vessel fragments its a button

[sturdy glade]

Mask shards are goofy

Because of heart mask shards aren't capped so you can do some trolling

[lofty flare]

True.

[stable quarry]

Could you explain?

[mossy brook]

Wow that's like 2 pixels

1 sec

[sturdy glade]

114

[tribal igloo]

Hmmmmm

[stable quarry]

47 hours to speedrun 114 dam

[tribal igloo]

Wr?

[stable quarry]

What did they add in the last 2% to add an aditional 44 hours to the run?

[mossy brook]

Yeah, I assume that is what you meant with mask shards not having a cap

[sturdy glade]

Only getting 2 extra masks

[wet stirrup]

i tried speedrunning the other day, and it went horribly. accoerding to a friend, there is a "route" that i should take, does anyone know what the route is?

[knotty vigil]

which category, exactly

[wet stirrup]

any%

[weary root]

are you trying for the achievemnts?

[wet stirrup]

no, i just want to beat the game super quick

[weary root]

do you want to use glitches?

[wet stirrup]

yes

[weary root]

lemme know if this is too many glitches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkJ7TI4d0EQ&t=452s

[wet stirrup]

thanks :)))

[weary root]

this also assumes you're on pc btw

won't work on console

[wet stirrup]

oh ya im on pc

[wet stirrup]

got it

[weary root]

👍

[wet stirrup]

👍

[cosmic wave]

aight gamers, I love games, but never spedrun and i decided I wanna do it with Hollow Knight. Any tips? Where do I get started?

[steady lynx]

Okay, so here's what you do

?pins

[sick raven]

Check the pinned messages for more information - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187137504393035776/823796522751623168/unknown.png

[steady lynx]

Join the pinned server

[copper walrus]

Yo this game has an optimal language right? If so what is it and how much time does it save?

[vagrant warren]

Chinese, and how much depends on the category. Several minutes in 1xx categories i believe.

[copper walrus]

Aight cool

Thanks

[stray elm]

All you need is mothwing cloak, just get hits when you can and dash over it any time it uses the acid rain. Just be sure to be careful when it jumps. All it takes is practice

[stable quarry]

Is this what you mean? https://youtu.be/dASQAiTCRys?t=3m

[random narwhal]

man i messed up so much past WK

i had to do qga 3 seperate times because i messed up the jump to distance village and fell down and died in queens from thorns

[lofty flare]

Nt

Watcher knights like to fuck me over

[fierce venture]

how tf is that 114%

[formal bough]

he duped mask shards, I believe

[manic kite]

Relateable

[lofty flare]

Duping

[lofty flare]

Fr

[manic kite]

I dies 3 times to them today

And then twice in qg

Then I ragequitted

[lofty flare]

My laptop broke 3 days after getting it fixed

SO I CANT EVEN DO RUNS

[manic kite]

Ouf

[lofty flare]

From there, I just gotta practice low equipment watcher knights until I can do them consistently using save states

[fierce venture]

"speedrun"

[lofty flare]

then I gotta practice beasts den movement, everything else I can do pretty fast, but greenpath, wk, and beasts den are the hardest parts of the run.

So this’ll be a while.

Wait

Is debug mod allowed to be in the mods list if none of its features are in use during the speedrun or must I remove it completely during attempt sessions.

[random narwhal]

did even better

sub 50 baby

[stable quarry]

Modding api is not allowed for speedruns.

[lofty flare]

Thank you, I’ll remember to remove it before my next attempts.

[lofty flare]

That’s fast

Very fuhast

[stable quarry]

And you haven't joined the pinned server yet?

[random narwhal]

thank u

[random narwhal]

i didnt know where to find the link to the speedrunning discord honestly

its not on the speedrun.com page

ty for showing me where it is

[stable quarry]

Your welcome lol

[lofty flare]

Can someone spare some time tomorrow to help me with crossroads/greenpath? That and watcher knights are what I struggle with the most, and I need help.

[stable quarry]

I could spare some time like the day after tomorrow..

[lofty flare]

Saturday? Alright, thanks.

[lofty flare]

Guys!

I need help.

Is there a fix for side buttons in controls on 1221?

I could rebind my side buttons but I hate doing that, so is there a program I can run that’ll remap them or do I have to do it manually?

[sturdy glade]

Mouse side buttons?

[lofty flare]

Yeah

[sturdy glade]

Blue.exe or turquoise.exe

[lofty flare]

Thanks, but doesn’t blue only do main mouse buttons?

And is it aloud in runs?

[sturdy glade]

Ofc

I wouldn't recommend anything that was run illegal

[lofty flare]

Cool, can you link me to the blue resource?

[sturdy glade]

Type ;mouse in the hksr discord