#speedrunning
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... do you expect someone to like, manually count for you LOL? Get livesplit.
I have a keyboard connected to my ps4 can anyone tell me some speedrun glitches I can use with keyboard?
I have a mouse to it just doesn’t work
there are no input method exclusive glitches
I believe capitalizing on main menu storage requires mouse in order to click multiple things at once
Hey if I just wanted to start speedrunning hk how would I do that?
Do you know what category you want to run?
Heya I would like to know how downpatching works....
Will I have to unable mods? How do I go back to current patch? Will there be corruption if I open files in the wrong version?
Mods are version specific. Going back to current is the same process as downpatching, or many people maintain multiple installs. Saves from new patches can break if opened on old patches, but you can back them up.
just beat the game in an hour and 50 minutes, I know its not too impressive but its my pb
gg 
congrats 
poggers
This is has been my goal for as long as I can remember. I started running in october of 2021 around the same time that pest got his world record of 32:16. At first I didn't realize that it was even remotely possible, but as I kept improving I started seeing that it might become a real possibility. I got my insane time of 33:29 and I thought t...
In what way
true, obvious use of aimbot and clear splicing and invuln are used throughout the run
We've taken all this into account and banned every single runner on the leaderboard except whoever is in last place
I've just set up a 1.2.2.1 file using this guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44HBxzC_RTg
Hollow Knight Discord: https://discord.gg/hollowknight
.NET Core: https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet-core
DepotDownloader: https://github.com/SteamRE/DepotDownloader/releases
List of Depot/Manifest Numbers: https://pastebin.com/JCKRcL7M
SRC Downpatching (Multiple Installed Patches): https://www.speedrun.com/hollowknight/guide/jlten
If...
but whenever I try and load the .exe the game crashes. I've tried deleting the team cherry folder in the registry but still nothin
Anyone encountered this? Or know what to look for in the crash logs? They're very messy
Much easier and more up-to-date guide here https://youtu.be/9b2JiUnu_PU
this is all ik for downpatching on steam
Pt 2: https://youtu.be/AlfAHsPH4wg
Saves Path: %appdata%..\LocalLow\Team Cherry\Hollow Knight
Text File Name: steam_appid
Text File Number: 367520
Thanks, I've noticed I have another folder titled gods and monsters along with the .exe and the data folder, is that used?
I don't know unfortunately, I haven't actually done this myself I just have that guide as reference for if/when I do decide to downpatch
i just got into hk speedrunning, would it be easier to speedrun with a keyboard or controller or does it not matter?
doesn't matter
alright
on my 1.2.2.1 install i have this weird green pixel
it there always
does anyone know why
I don't see any green pixels there
iirc, it's an artifact of the 1440p resolution
It's if your resolution is over 1080p
Main way to fix it is to lower resolution
If you really like it you can also get patch 1.2.1.4 which has two green pixels
my monitor's resolution 2560 1440 so which would be a good option to fix this
Just lowering resolution to 1080p would fix it, no solution other than that tho
Not really appealing to have black borders around the game tho
that sucks
run your monitor as 1080p
that makes text blurry though
the game is supposed to be blurry. it's artistic
alright, thanks
run the game windowed, borderless at 1080p
the window is a bit smaller, but still plenty big on a 1440p
Just to clarify, was this green pixel ever fixed?
In 1.3.1.5 yeah
plus, you can then have your livesplit timer open next to the game and not on top of it
1315 did fix a ton, so it's not too bad as a turning point patch
1210 exists
1211 X exists
you can't even open chests on that
That's 1211
Long story short, on Grimm Troupe release day they released 3 patches
Yes. I hate it and think it should be banned for speedruns. Therefore I'm one of very few people who take speedrunning on that patch seriously
First a 1211 with broken nail triggers, no chests, etc
Then another 1211 that works normally
Then 1210
The second 1211 is just a duplicate of 1210 except the number btw
Wait, Mickely. Were the problem of 1211 X known before Gusten rediscovered it?
I don't know what 1211 X is
the broken 1211
1211 X is the first 1211
On it the nail can trigger dreamnail triggers like Whispering Roots, The Nightmare corpse and dreamers
But you can't open chests
I just remember people trying to open the Fury chest and not being able to
that day is very fuzzy in my memory
We've randomly called them 1211 X(xero) and 1211 M(onstah) iirc just because of ... there being two clips of gameplay? and one of them being xero's gameplay and one being monstah's gameplay?
if my brain remembers the discussion like months ago
Yep
Xero was doing casual 1.2 playthrough on 1211 X, and Monstah did first 106 run on 1211 M
Xero didn't have a recording, he just told me he triggered the nightmare corpse with cdash and I wanted to find the patch he did it
no it was nail I think
white xero is cursed
Tsss, cdash would be funnier
Something that wasn't dnail at least
could probably find the history in the archives
I've always been white
That patch is unfortunately used for low% AG now since you don't need dreamnail
Like, I dislike it not because it's a bad patch to run on or anything. I dislike it because it's a frickin beta which was accidently made as a full release tbh. If we allowed running on betas - I would have no problem with it
These are the same devs that for several months let you kill the same enemy 16 times
flukenest is just a major glitch anyway
1315 flukes are bad. Imo they should've just made flukes work like on 1.0 but remove kill dupes
solid damage for 2 notches
after getting cloak i cant get off of the astral mound bench
but i can still use my controller through menus though
Could be registry messing with you
is there a fix for that
Could there be any side effects upon doing this?
You'll lose the ability to make Steelsoul and Godseeker saves, also all your button binds will reset
do i just delete the Team Cherry folder in Registry Editor
thats it?
what exactly does that do
yeah
It clears a lot of data registered by 1.5 which 1221 doesn't agree with
Which breaks inputs sometimes
it doesnt clear save files though
because thats in a different folder
am i understanding correctly
That's in LocalLow, no worries
The only stuff that i will notice is useless stuff such as in game achievements and binds
alright
thanks
worked like a charm
thanks alot!
how in the world do speedrunners kill the watcher knights without a nail upgrade, shade cloak, shade soul, desolate dive, monarch wings, etc
this is pure hell
that makes sense
i havent even managed to kill a single watcher knight before dying
alright
but yeah just need to put in the time
Just to clarify how much practice. Gwonkee spent more than 500 hours on this fight alone, I think
does anyone know how to get the keyboard layout for OBS that runners use?
i saw nohboard but i dont really like how it looks
something like this would be ideal
By lovely Marcus https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1a5jr6P2VDTTevfegoyAfwny-IBFEeVSY?usp=sharing
Files for Hollow Knight OBS Input Overlay
thanks man! and thank you marcus <3
im gonna beat that time
what is a good way to practice bosses in any%?
Debug mod and savestates
Or wait for someone who doesn't run the game suggest Hall of Gods
is there a specific mod for save states?
but they have HoG hp and not overworld hp
I want to practice thk and wk
We have it all listed in the sr server
k thxs
That's kinda the joke, whenever someone asks something here someone who doesn't run the game suggests something that's not even remotely a solution
Commonly with a reply ping after the person has already gotten help
also how do you link your discord profile on speedrun.com?
On speedrun.com you add it as a linked profile on your account
You also need a verified run to get the role in the other server
what do I put as the link?
I do have a verified run
k thxs
I know, I verified it

Tried to downpatch to 1.2.2.1 to try speedrunning and this pops up when i try to open the game. can someone help?
windows or mac
mac
?tag macos
Common MacOS Problems & Fixes
🔹 Scarab doesn't open correctly on MacOS
- Move the file you downloaded (
mac.zip) to your Desktop - Double-Click it, and Scarab
should appear - Right-Click the Scarab
icon, and select "show contents" - Go into the MacOS folder, and then double-click the "Scarab" file.
🔹 ⚠️Scarab cannot be opened because it is from an unidentified developer.
- In the
Finderon your Mac, locate the app you want to open. Don’t use Launchpad to do this! It doesn’t allow access the shortcut menu. Control+clickthe app icon, then choose "Open" from the shortcut menu.Click"Open".
The app is now saved as an exception to your security settings, and you can open it in the future by double-clicking it like normal.
🔹 Cannot Launch HK after updating MacOS or after changing patches!
Follow the info in the official
troubleshooting: https://steamcommunity.com/app/367520/discussions/0/3109153465655517517/
bottom bullet
thanks
I got a new pb 
Could you use a slope/stall ball to make ismas route “viable”
I recommend watching this run:
https://youtu.be/ssluP-6uvQc
WR again! Dumb timeloss in GHS room and late game losses due to nerves again.
Thxs
why is wk wall bounce distance randomized
It'd not be HK if everything wasn't RNG
what are uumuu strats?
Personally disagree but ok
like I can do three cycle
if I can skip shade soul and extra mask I think I can get sub hour
I can also not die
hey fellas
looking to get into hk speedrunning?
is there like a beginner route can follow? Like specifically meant to dodge QGA?
or do you recommend I just learn the entire run as it is
yeah there's an alt route that goes through deepnest instead
this is the fastest run on the boards that does deepnest route I think. timestamped to show where you go after leaving Archives
https://youtu.be/y77CN7T8lSg?t=1933
Hollow Knight Any% No Major Glitches Speedrun in 35 min and 12 seconds. I am very happy with the progress so far. I will likely be practicing Queen's Garden Acid skip for future runs but I would still like to get a 34:xx with current strats.
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thanks
How do I make a Speedrun counter stop when I enter a new room ?
You use the auto splitter on livesplit
That worked , thank you
interesting
Markoth better than Xero….
Neither are Galien so...
marmu 
is qga harder in current patch?
ok I swear they buffed wk in a patch
there's no way they rolled this fast before
or it could be I just woke up 
can someone help me with consistent strats for 2 wk
back rolls be like
for no reason that attack has less end lag than the rest
and tc decided to add it back in 1.5
for no reason
well not for no reason. The fact that it was removed wasn't intentional iirc
so they were "fixing a glitch"
:P
or maybe its because I just woke up 
it's not even the attack that's bad the fact that is has 3x less cooldown than literally every other attack confuses me
I also hate how they dash backwards before rolling forwards
why doesn't live split work 
like is it broken or smth
ok I figured it out I didn't download the app
just the splits
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what are consistent strats for blue lake
shade
nvm I figured it out
I was too high
current any% wr runs 1.2.2.1 or 1.2.2.1 Rafters? idk what this means in splitmaker
rafters mean you get the seal in west city
imo it is better for new players like me because you can get nail 1
nice, thanks!
You go to west city after wk for rafters
So its still prolly not worth to do it then if you want the nail upgrade for watcher knights
The rafters route is more advanced, not easier
I mean rafters + nail 1
right, but the rafters route in hksplitmaker doesn't refer to that. it's the advanced route that goes to rafters after watcher knights
Buy map from Cornflakes, use quickmap to cancel spell animation, float there instead
isn't that a major glitch
Yep
major glitches 
fireball skips definitely take a lot of practise to get consistent
yeah ik
and ig it doesn't save that much time
as it only saves like 10 seconds over squit pogo
if you post a clip of some attempts we can probably tell you what you need to improve
ok sure gimme a sec
ok here, posted it on youtube cause th file is too big https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9ZlwF4ZiqA
You can definitely jump way later than you do in most attempts
Also, are you holding any direction between fireballs?
ok so first you wanna make sure you're jumping as late as possible, on a lot of these you're jumping quite early.
you wanna make sure you're fireballing immediately after turning, often you're moving a fair way to the right before shooting the fireballs
and some of these you're turning around too early, you want to turn around at the apex of your jump or slightly after
your timing between the fireball casts is really good though 👍 it's easy to lose a lot of height between casts
Just make sure you aren't spamming fireballs. It's a bad habit
k thxs, is there a visual indicator for when to turn?
the tree in the background
or the apex of your jump
fireball skips reset your downward speed, so they're used mostly to gain extra jump length
fireballing before you've started falling again is way way too early
k thxs, I am so much more consistent now\
On this one you can easily make it with 2 fb while fireballing before you start falling. When doing 1fb you'll have to do it later though
How do you do bench storage?
I remember that you have to talk to an npc while opening the map
But I do not remember what to do after that
doesn't have to be an NPC
Really?
just get the inventory overlayed and you're able to move. sit on bench, press inventory while animation of sitting happens
so you could just get general storage state with focus, cdash, etc
then start sitting on bench and press inventory to stop it
well you have focus don't you
I am doing a challenge run where I am using summons only
I cannot kill or hit anything without summons
So no soul
could probably just QM -> bench -> QM to store it too
are you on current patch
I am on console so yes
you can only attempt 1 storage per quit out on current patch
of any kind
you can't try again
what do you want bench storage for anyway?
if you use it to equip charms somewhere else you're going to softlock
To get to deepnest and get weaver song
so to BooB
You can't. Or rather, what happens when you close the map is you end up in a standing animation, but you are still on a bench. At least that's what I remember from testing
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CDash was the best method previously, b/c you could get the storage and super dash thru the transition
yeah, so you'd have to keep the map open until transition, then use it to oob
BooB is weird
If you are in the beginning of the game, you should: quickmap storage elderbug dialog, sit on a bench, open inv, scroll through elderbug dialog, and then walk into well while having inv open
No you can't move with map open if you qms bench.
Oh yeah that is how you do it. Thank you now I remember
b/c it sucks
whats the fastest route with no glitches
Whatever the king of skating does for now
?
https://youtu.be/o0YkOqEXSmg the king of skating, aka skate_king
This is has been my goal for as long as I can remember. I started running in october of 2021 around the same time that pest got his world record of 32:16. At first I didn't realize that it was even remotely possible, but as I kept improving I started seeing that it might become a real possibility. I got my insane time of 33:29 and I thought t...
Idk how he's already in the 18th month of this year tho
I love umg
i have a question about the speedrun.com rules, are skins allowed or do they have to be turned off?
All mods are completely banned from the main and meme boards
Even modding api can't be installed
(Exception being mini savestates for some individual levels)
wait so scarab needs to be deleted completely?
You can just click verify integrity on steam to remove it, but yes it needs to not be installed for runs to be verified
okay, thanks
to clarify, the scarab application can stay on your computer
as long as hollow knight doesn't have the modding api active, you're good
Just got to royal waterways in my run
Hi
hello
Omg hi slaurent
wait omg is that the wr holder gusten
of any% JPN pokemon rumble passwords normal fame
I also have WR in Hollow Knight All Bosses Hidden Dreams No Main Menu Storage
Which definitely is a category
just did the cheeky speed completion achievement on steam
And now you want a good time right
bro p3 is like 20 times harder than previous pantheons
and im maxed out now and i wasnt before
don't use #speedrunning
use #hk-help or hk discussion instead
but I can help you!
sorry wrong chatr
chat
i only wanted to say that to see if someone agrees
but thanks 😄
Many speedrunners refer to p3 as the garbage pantheon
idk its weird
That's mostly since P3 is the RNG pantheon
ye he is
well ur right but im a nail player
i was a spell but i use nail builds now
spell player when i started*
L
you're in #speedrunning so you have access to the exclusive premium advice of "use quickcast"
As we say in the speedrunning server
Why are you dying ☠️ to bosses 👨🏼? You should just be using descending dark 🕶. Descending ⬇️ dark 🕶️ gives you iframes 👀 which stop 🛑you taking damage 😔. It also does a🅰️🅰️ lot of damage 😢. Stop 🛑 dying ☠️ to video 📻📻👾 game 👾 bosses 👨🏼 and just use descending ⬇️ dark 🌑
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hi gusten, I promise to run any% tmr
You could run any%, but you could also run a good category
yeah but any% gets more views'
my any% video is like the 2nd or 3rd most viewed vid on my channel
Only speedrun video I did that got views was All Cheevos
any% all glitches gets great views 
LET'S F-ING GOOOOOOO
i think i should switch my game to English the next time I speedrun

Switch it to Chinese, it’s faster
it doesnt matter, I dont even record them
and those few seconds don't matter at all
If it doesn’t matter you should be fine with German 
just for the pictures
They do matter quite a bit
I daresay that matters a lot less than the timesave
as long as i dont got anything under 1h, it doesnt really matter
in my opinion
real time attack
it means simply the ending time minus the starting time, so real-time in one segment
the internal game timer isn't exactly real-time
real time = real world time. so you use a real world measurement
like a stopwatch
or external timer
Chinese saves as much time as Uumuu 2 cycle does compared to a 3 cycle aka a ton of time (about 20 secounds)
no way it means attack
ive always wondered what the a means but i never thought it could be that
there's multiple different explanations as to the source of why it's called time attack, but RTA stands for real-time attack
time attack was usually referring to things like.... the game modes in racing games where you go for best time on a single track
and can do that over and over, so real-time attack grew out of that to mean the same thing, but for the entire game
Hey, i was just wondering if on the switch version if you pause the game does it also pause the time in game?
Well im just going for the speedrun 2 achievement, so just attempting to be under 5 hours
unless you were planning on standing still for 3 hours without pausing, then that shouldn't be an issue
Alright, thank y'all
?srpsa
Reminder: This channel is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602
^here's a nice guide on the cheevo
Why have you 15% in your username?
Don't you usually put the high numbers in your username?
Low% is a thing
Fr?
Yeah
Is it the the lower the % you compleated the game with, the better?
Yup, there's speedruns of it too
I don't remember the exact minimum
15 seems to be really low, if you ask me
I dont have many ideas on how to get it any lower
11% is the lowest without glitches
Maybe not upgrade the nail (yes, i do upgrade my naile once in speedruns)
Oh wow 👀
skips getting dash most notably
The low percent godhome ending is crazy
Wym?
i mean a lot of the % it skips vs any% are like not getting extra stuff or avoiding bosses but dash is like a core movement ability so it makes playing the game completely different
you do fireball skips to avoid needing dash at all
with glitches the only % you get is lurien
With glitches on good patches the only % you get are Dreamnail and Lurien
Sometimes Monomon instead of Lurien
Hmm that maybe shouldn’t be on src given that the vs skip blue lake route is also completable
It feels like one of those things they put there in summer 2017 and just never touched again
I just did path of pain hitless for the first time today and I didn’t even know it was hitless until watching the recording 💀
I just didn’t notice ig
this is #speedrunning
I was speedrunning shut up
I got it in 3:21:71
So yes I was speedrunning 🤓
I had a timer on
ah ok sry
It’s fine I was just messin with ya lol
Oh well yes, my video is coming out tomorrow on it but sadly I don’t think it counts because the switch was already flipped
You can avoid that
I didn’t feel like using a different save file because when I do that I don’t have all of my..hearts? I forgot the name of the things 😅
Pc. But using a controller
Hey could we be friends? I am trying to make more HK speedrunning friends :)
And I need some help with speedrunning too 😅 (livesplit)
always dangerous
whit the glowing womb is possible to do the magolor9k way
to get the shadow attention
i think it is not hit kill right?
yes but its horribly slow youd be better off just hoping for good rng hwurmps
glowing womb takes like a minute to get at least
no, it just can be doing whit the skip in the tunnel and killing the ennemies
faster then going to the left to get a nail upgrade right?
WR of any% "current patch" (1.4.3.2+) does isma's route:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssluP-6uvQc
WR again! Dumb timeloss in GHS room and late game losses due to nerves again.
I cant get my controller to work on hollow knight 1.2.2.1 it wont get detected. anyone know how to fix this? It works on current version.
When I'm in game I can move with the controller, x and y zooms in and out, and the rest of the buttons do nothing really
switch controller?
ps4
hmm 1221 doesn't support some controller types, unsure about ps4
but that might be the issue
there are programs you can use to bind your controller to keyboard inputs
I use AntiMicro, but there are a bunch like Joy2Key etc.
i just have seen a video, of course they would have discover something better. Tankhy
I just started using joytokey and its working for the most part but x and y now do what theyre suppose to, but also still zoom in and out
any ideas how to stop this from happening?
does it have to do with the debug menu?
ah it's probably something weird with hk, try enabling playstation config support in steam controller settings
often what that does is stop any of the buttons form working 🥴 so it will only listen to the joy2key inputs
It's just the percentage you get when doing the optimal TE NMMS route
Me omw to put 16% in my profile
I've used ps4 controller on 1221 (with no other program but steam)
?tag controller
__Common fixes for controller issues __
🔹 Toggle "Controller Native Input" in the game, found at Main Menu ᐅ Options ᐅ Controller. Restart your game after changing it.
🔹 Unplug your controller before launching the game, then plug it back in on the title screen
🔹 Use Steam's controller settings, enable Steam Inputs from the game properties, and check controller configuration support through Steam's Big Picture mode
🔹 Use a program to map controller inputs to keyboard inputs, either through Steam or a third party program
Visual examples for Steam settings
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910762350267744276/943421389606637578/hk_enable_steam_input.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910762350267744276/943421618250731530/hk_steam_controller_settings.png
it started working when i turned all the steam support options off lol
So i recently got into the pantheon speedrunning and i wanted to ask if the any bidings category means that i need to use at least 1 biding or if i can use bidings?
You're allowed to use any set of bindings except all four at once
Including none at all
O ok thanks
Are there not any leaderboards for pantheon runs?
ooh cool, thanks!
Your not allowed to use all 4? Why?
that would just be AB at that point lmao
We'll actually move it to All Bindings if you do
what r ur fastest path of pain runs guys
My fastest pop is 3:21:71 so far. I haven’t ever practiced the rooms yet though. Gonna make some changes on how I do some rooms to save a bunch of time before I start speedrunning it again.
Hey man :)
The video is now uploaded on my channel. I’m sorry if this pings you I’m not sure how this works
2:07.92
Hey so a guy told me that spells were scalling down with ur nail upgrade, is that true ? Or the guy is mixing up dream warrior health?
What's a "path of pain"?
The path full of saws and spikes and stuff
Never heard of it
Oh is that the thing you do in greenpath to get to the cyclone nail art?
Staxis, that's Great slash
2:19.99
First hitless run so not going to grind for anything better anytime soon
wow
Should I try my first ever speedrun today?
Yeah and it’s also not path of pain
Hey I have an issue with my autosplitter. I'm trying to get it to work for any% on 1.2.2.1, but when i load into the game the timer goes green but it doesn't change from 0.00... Anybody familiar with this issue?
When I tried a Panthon run it worked great though
started by itself, paused during loads and split correctly
but for any% it just didn't do any of that
it just "started" but it thought the game was loading or something
Yes, be original and run glitches
Right click edit splits activate autosplitter
already did that
Try starting livesplit first?
wait, even when i manually start it it doesn't count
Like before HK
ok ill try
Make sure you have autosplits
I do 👍
Would like prof tbh
doesn't work either
it's like it doesn't understand the game is running
could be because of 1.2.2.1?
No
Did you make your own splits or get them from hksplitmaker.com?
Try deleting them and downloading them again
Np
What was the time?
40 minutes
cut another 2 hours next time
Just go fast enough that you reverse time
Pop runners 
we need a pop achievement 
Oh ok! Wasn't planning to copy anyone I just want to see how fast I can beat the game myself, I'm probably gonna use a lot of chesse
Team cherry dosent think pop is hard enough to make an achievement, but beating the false knight is!
As a pop speedrunner i couldnt agree more
I didn't do pop yet
But I got my shell spliced open enough times in the white Palace to know what it's gonna be like
I don't really have a reason to do PoP
No category except the IL and PoP% even does it
wdym 112% apb wr does it 
112% APB WR doesn't even go into WP

I may not agree with using Garfield storage to complete like half of the requirement of 112, but it is on the leaderboard
Python 112 apb ag wr when
Python routing 112% APB NMMS when?
We're doing that as well
hundo NMMS has like 10, room dupes that last for one room each
hundo AG would almost be one big room dupe
I think you overrate room dupes on 1.0 quite a bit. Especially since it's not dgate noclip you can't just not care about anything, you will get hit by stuff
Also you can't even get noclip and roomdupe in 1.0 ag
like at the same time
So basically, there will be more dupes, but it will definitely not be "1 big room dupe" or anything close to it
Sad
Ruining Gusten dreams with logic smh
Then do it python
doing my first "speedrun", is fog skip easy or do i have to get wings kings brand and shade dash?
which skip are you talking about exactly? if you mean the entry from crossroads, that's fairly easy. (and the backup would likely just be ismas, no shade cloak)
yeah thats the one, thanks
i thought the blue lake shade skip would be hard but it wasnt that bad
(i had to go to ancient basil through city of tears to get pale ore because i couldnt do watcher knights lmao)
what about the fog skip into gardens? is that hard?
QGA is considered much harder but it's also not required when just starting out, the route thru deepnest only loses about 40 seconds
oh thats not bad
i wanna start nmg any% but i cant find any proper video so uh can someone send me a link for like a good tutorial
oh thanks
Also lots of resources in the speedrun server in pins
Yeah you can skip the cutscenes
runs aren't allowed to have any mods or even the modding api installed to be verified
oh k
How much of a difference in time does using fluke nest in p5 make?
alot because it does alot of dmg
i think
it does a lot of damage if you know when/how to get multi hits. just blindly fluking everything and praying probably won't yield good results. disclaimer: I don't run pantheons
Spoonsei probably knows you’d be better off asking him
It's like 30-40s if you know what ur doing and get good rng
Imagine knowing what you’re doing lol
I did a few p1 runs back in the day and just ran into a wall doing runs until I got a time I was satisfied with
Ended up with a 3:19 which was like top 20 back then :P
hey my little baldurs are bugged, does anyone know a fix?
they travel a short distance then stop
plus my vengeflys seem really fast
idk whats up w that
Are you on pre-1.3
Yeah, they're framerate dependent there
yeah cap your framerate at something
what is it currently at?
(also beware mistakes in soul sanctum) [edit, follies]
interesting, i disabled vsync so i could go above 60hz, but it doesnt seem to visibly update
ig ill just keep it on
Most people cap at 200-300 fps, if you go too low you start getting performance issues like input lag
Oh no don't keep it on
vsync is generally a bad idea for HK
The input lag is awful
the answer is that you're probably naturally getting hundreds of fps without vsync
capping it with vsync isn't the solution though
you should probably enable in game fps display, iirc steam has an option for that
i believe so
one second
so my fps is like maxing at like 820
kinda fluctuating around that range
I hope you mean 820 on the title screen
yes
Was worried it'd be 820 in-game
by worried gusten means "in wonder at your computer quality"
(and the fps goes down the more intensive the game is, so the main menu as the simplest thing in the game has the highest fps)
3d settings or something
I will not be outmatched
so 250?
250 works fine yeah
It's a good compromise of having it be low enough that enemies are somewhat normal and high enough that you get decent inputs
alright
so one more question
i have the 1221 set up to where theres two different hks, when i go back on current patch will it still be capped at 250? if so, would it be beneficial to change it back?
Yeah it will be still capped. And on current patch inputs are much less framerate dependant so it probably won't make a difference either way
gl 
1098 fps wtf
It's just the title screen, in game it's like 500
Seems to be about the same on release patch (have a few less windows open here
Nice
Oh damn I've never actually checked what my max is 🥴 no wonder my computer starts to sound like a jet engine when I forget to open rivatuner
Btw, don't boot release patch, it destroys the registry
this is my secret plot to make gusten open 1.5 
It's physically impossible for me to open 1.5 unless it's for low% NMMS
Wait, my GPU has a built in limiter to just over 1000fps
I need to figure out how to disable that
I would recommend not doing that 
Fine
it might melt 
We'll never know what I get on best patch (1.4.2.4) uncapped
ill check my 1424
Btw, based 1.5.75 Eisog
I doesn't show on 1424
I don't have an unmodded 1578 
does this mean I have illegal 1424
It would explain why my computer doesn't make a sound regardless of patch
Correction: You don't need an unmodded 1578
Not even I have an unmodded 1578 and I have like all the patches you can need
You guys have 1.5 at all?
you say that like it means all glitches
Just the necessary patches
Don't ask why I keep the load extended ones with my vanilla installs
Also don't ask why 1005 isn't there, I blame TC for that
we need to bully gog into a public 1005 release
I tried asking them for it but they were just confused
TC are known to have kept most builds of the game, they managed to put 1221 up again
If nothing else they have it
And then it's not truly gone
It's also a bit, pointless to have
Like 1011, 1014, 1031, 1033, 1034, 1116, 1117, 1315, 1572, 1578 and 1580
Arguably 1007 as well
I bet they though 1.3 is supposed to be big so they keep it
you act like I haven't seen the funny
it can also skip wk though
optimal for rmg smh
Notable that there aren't really any useless 1.2 patches
1.2 winning yet again
Always has been
It's just 1210
yeah
Same thing
so it has no purpose over 1210
Optimal for glitched 106 but like

me rn
yeah sadly uncool 1211 has a lot of use as skipping dnail is quite huge

Hello, I am new to the server and I have been playing hollow knight for a while now. I want to ask about how to create savefiles to practice Path Of Pain specifically using DebugMod. I've already downloaded a file from speedrunning.com to practice, but I don't know how to use DebugMode to create a save point so that when I complete Path Of Pain I can play it again. An explanation would be very helpful =)
first ever hk speedrun. sucks everywhere. i had to fight mantis lords in order to get into deepnest, instead of just grabbing tear while getting basin pale ore for watcher knights. but i got the speedrun achievements so thats what matters
run any%
no
better than my first run was
¯_(ツ)_/¯
mine was 3 hours iirc
i didnt think id do more runs but now my pb is around an hour
My first was 1h 30m
i have never completed a hollow knight speedrun
i can get to watcher knights and i fail the run
well i fail before i get to watcher knights because i can never hit the lever through the wall
That was patched out in 1.3.1.5
oh then that would explain it
i never downpatched because i was lazy
i should probably downpatch
Yeah if you want to, later patches can just kill the Great Husk sentry in that room to get past
Earlier patches as well, the city lever skips only work on 1221
1221, the one available as a steam beta
alright thanks
1.2.2.2
Staxis will say that it's 1575 since it's optimal for glitched
We don't talk about that
Funny beta
No beta will ever be as funny as 1.3.3.7
1211 is basically a beta
Still disheartening that shade soul doesn't reach
There's a reason that the best patch ever is 1114
Balanced and functional
2 notches
144 damage
Kill dupes
Without shaman its a measly 112 damage
I can tell you that I'm having fun when I kill 6 WK in two casts
1114 also has dgate which outside main menu storage might be the most broken thing in the game
Real
Map
Especially on 1028
I'd argue that dgate at full power is more broken than 1028 map, but 1028 map is just something you have from the start
And it's significantly more applicable. As in, you can use if for way more things
I do agree that dgate is extremely broken, but I would definitely say that mostly it's so powerful because of lp room dupes
what is broken about dgate
you can use it to get noclip and invulnerability, as well as using it's normal function to save time
you can still invin
yeah dreamgate is the same on every patch
but it was only introduced in 1.1
so 1028 doesn't have access to it
Hi! I'm going to start speedrunning. Does someone know a good program to record the gameplay and the timer with?
livesplit
and nvidia geforce recorder is good
Well, on 1114 (and i assume up to 1.3) you can get your dgate out interrupted with scream. And so dgate invuln on those patches doesn't give scream skips as opposed to lp
Sorry, didn't mean to ping
Wouldn't surprise me if dgate not being interrupted by screams was added in 1.4 as a pantheon qol thing
also explains why invuln from the leaving part of dgate skips screams but not invuln from the arriving part
The thing is, with precise scream timing you can get dgate invuln on early patches. So I would imagine that's what they were fixing, as really making you invincible to scream but only on the finishing part of dgate put doesn't add much qol
To test that someone would have to play 1.3 and that's impossible
It says my GPU isn't good
Is OBS good to record a speedrun?
I have no idea how intensive nvidia's recorder is but most people use OBS studio to recorrd runs
yeah
I have hard some people using xbox thing to record. Apperantly that takes less resourses than OBS.
is 2h 26m good for my first speedrun
It's good if you find it good
Hey, I have a question about Hornet 1. Is using Vengeful Spirit to skip her dialogue allowed? I looked through the rules and didnt find anything about it
yes, but its generally faster to save the soul for the fight
Ok, gotcha, thats why I didnt see it happen in runs. Thanks!
it doesn't deal damage
Does it record the timer too?
Idk never used it. I assume you would have to have it visually on your screen
Box game bar can record your whole screen I believe
Challenge?
guzs help when i downpatch the game it cant open i plaz on macOS
i wanna play on 1.2.2.1 but it doesnt open
?tag macos
Common MacOS Problems & Fixes
🔹 Scarab doesn't open correctly on MacOS
- Move the file you downloaded (
mac.zip) to your Desktop - Double-Click it, and Scarab
should appear - Right-Click the Scarab
icon, and select "show contents" - Go into the MacOS folder, and then double-click the "Scarab" file.
🔹 ⚠️Scarab cannot be opened because it is from an unidentified developer.
- In the
Finderon your Mac, locate the app you want to open. Don’t use Launchpad to do this! It doesn’t allow access the shortcut menu. Control+clickthe app icon, then choose "Open" from the shortcut menu.Click"Open".
The app is now saved as an exception to your security settings, and you can open it in the future by double-clicking it like normal.
🔹 Cannot Launch HK after updating MacOS or after changing patches!
Follow the info in the official
troubleshooting: https://steamcommunity.com/app/367520/discussions/0/3109153465655517517/
look at the last bullet
maybe sharing more info would help then
with this chat, yes
ok i downpatch my hollow knight in steam to 1221 and then when i try to enter it it types that theres a probem
-how did you downpatch?
-where did you buy the game?
-What is the error it's giving specifically?
-Add screenshots to help communicate what's happening
-anything else relevant
please be specific
saying "there's a problem" or "it won't work" is not helpful
ok moment
we cannot help if we don't know what is happening
1 by clicking hollow knight in steam than properties betas and chose 1221
2 i bought it in steam
3 Failed to start procces for hollow knight
OS Error 4294956486
screenshot
its on russian (finder problem)
thats all
?tag verify
try this
on the patch i need?
yes
Anyone know what the manifest is for 1.2.2.1 is?
are you using steam?
Yes
No tag betas found.
O thanks lol
?tags
virus, verify, swap, support, steamdeck, steambetas, stealing, spritepacker, spoilers, sourceart, skinfaq, screenshot, scarab, saves, savefiles, saveedit, s, roomlabels, reset, pirate, piracy, pins5, pins4, pins3, pins2, pins, noping, modlog, modlinks, moddingpsa, modding_help, macos, jokerpsa, itemsync, installs, install, info, i, hp, hkmpskins, hkmp, goodmods, gamepass, fyre, extramods, error, enemyrando, dependencies, crash, controller, ckss, ckfaq, ckc, ck, charms, bw, anyrad, 1221
pls text me directly if u know how to help
No tag ?steambetas found.
?tag steambetas
Make sure you have the correct game version for your mods.
-Modinstaller takes version 1.4.3.2 (and is no longer support)
-Scarab takes version 1.5 (set beta to "None")
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/283470827738103810/1024160413895639050/Untitled-1.png
I got there 
would a stalball into fungal core be possible?
Can you downpatch on a pc if you bought from the xbox store?
Probably not
Sure you can
you just need to buy it again 🙂
i hear purchasing more copies of hollow knight makes silksong come out faster
Guys how to do that thing so I can open inventory in the air? Because the only way I can inventory drop is catching a great timing by stepping of edge and tapping inventory almost at the same time
play on a patch before 1.3
uumuu is a bs and rng piece of crap
I can’t open it on my Mac
ok so if you're stuck on current patch you cant open inventory in midair
Get benchstorage
What how
You need a map a bench and any thing that gives you text
It is major glitch
Just so you know
And opening inventory mid air with benchstorage isn't generally a great idea, if talking seriously
Then you do quickmap interact quickmap as fast as you can. And use the text tp gain controll while sitting on the bench and go to the nearest load and open inv mid load
Transition storage
If you have transition storage you don't need to open it midair
But you can
It's even better if you open it in unovercharm state, then you can't even close it
Can you even unovercharm on 1.3+
I assume so? Never unovercharmed ever so Idk
i think you can with bench storage?
Just thought that I never saw anyone do it in like TE NMMS
does te nmms even get charms apart from dashmaster?
huh I thought shaman ended up slower
I think record got it
Reminds me, I need to message Staxis about actually learning the dupes
The visuals are slightly different between 1575, modded and 1424 so 🥴
gusten how are you going to run any%/te ag on not 1.5?
also this is some side effect of debug removing some black screens in dupes
Very carefully
oops ping
The main worry is low% NMMS which might hard require 1.5
I think Rose tried it on 1.4
Some clip didn't work or something
I honestly don't like using Garfield storage to get everything, but for any% and TE I'll live since obtaining the movement and all isn't part of the goal of the run
I assume that would loose time in TE NMMS because where we overcharm we lose no time to doing it.
is there also a no spoiler zone here?
no
charm recommendation and any kind of upgrade or just directly going into the fire?
if this is for competitive speedrunning, what you fight with is pre-determined
nah i just want an achievement
?srpsa
Reminder: This channel is intended for competitive speedrunning discussion. Questions about achievements should be directed to #hk-help.
Guide for the 5hr speedrunning achievement: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1861523602
^ a nice guide for the cheevo
well i asked in the help chat and they linked me to speedrun
you didn't specify the achievement in help
ohhhhh
so understandable they pointed you here when you only say speedrun
at any rate, the steam guide is a good way to do it safely and quickly
Just do the 112 route
i understand
sorry! i am still new to understanding servers lol
thank you for being patient : )
The year is 2030: TC lowers the speed running achievement back to 3 hours after the first sub 3 112 run
they should've left it at 3 hours imo
Fr
speedrun 5: have a wr
All my WR's are bs, but it works
why is my livesplit "not recognizing my splits as real splits"? I'm doing everything the speedrun.com guide says
if you joined the pinned server and check out #tech-support, there's a pinned message with livesplit troubleshooting.
speedrun 5: sub 5
What’s your guys pop pb?
Hi all, I mentioned this in the help channel yesterday but didn't get a response.
I encountered a glitch that first makes the Knight invisible and then (so far) invulnerable through Godhome.
I've attached a few images. Not sure if this is anything new or useful. But, if so, I'm happy to explain what I did (I'm on the Switch, btw)
Probably dgate invuln
Best bet you tried to dgate out of a pantheon as it loaded the next boss room which cancelled the animation
I thought dgate invulning in pantheons ends up whitescreening you
Died after beating one of the bosses and got hit by a projectile
Oh, then I get it
oh yeah, dying at a specific time after beating a boss can result into it
you were also invulnarable?
Yes, still am
I think when this was discovered somebody mentioned something about invuln, but it wasn't confirmed. Well now we have confirmation
thank you for sharing! 
If you savequit yeah
40 mins lmao
cant do it anymore its closed after you've done it once ;(
Yeah unless you use mini save states
(Only on pc)
whats that
It's a small mod that lets you warp back to an existing location and gamestate
Legal for individual level speedruns like pop
How do you fireball skip? I can't seem to get it on console
You turnaround after the peak of your jump and fireball as soon as possible after the turnaround. For more fireballs just hold neutral and time them.
And then hold the way your going after the last fireball
Atleast that is the methoud for the Greenpath fb skipps
For queen station style fb skipps a little more complex. Mostly because instead of holding neutral you hold the way your going and do turnarounds for each fb. And you have to space them somewhat well..
@oblique hinge
Hitting levers through walls only works on 1.2.2.1
well, in WP you can hit a lever through a wall on 1.0.0.6 and 1.0.0.5 🤓
1005 is not a real patch
shh
If people try to gaslight me into thinking Godseeker is Steelsoul I can gaslight them into thinking 1005 is real
How do you get older versions?
Awsome, thanks




