sk-help-2

[robust adder]

I jump a lot so my thumb being dedicated for jumping feels natural

[hoary ibex]

oh right i still have to do ||mini path of pain||

[past zealot]

thank you

[robust adder]

To be fair, W being used for looking up/interacting/direction isn't too useful but with how much jumping there is I think spacebar is appropriate

[rotund ibex]

Plus all the ||mementos||

[neon axle]

How hard is it to do ||Passing of the Ages|| with no guide? Should I even try?

[hoary ibex]

nope already got those except for the one at the end of ||mini path of pain||

[rotund ibex]

I'd say it's fairly useful when in boss fights so you can keep track of things moving upwards when they go beyond the screen

[keen quartz]

do i need to do the ||mister mushroom quest in order…||

[rotund ibex]

It's not hard, but one location is quite vague and might give you some trouble. I found it naturally after looking for a while

[robust adder]

Where's that

[rotund ibex]

Dang, including beating ||Seth's high scores||?

[hoary ibex]

above ||act 2 final boss|| arena

[rotund ibex]

Curious, what did you think of ||Flea Dodge||? xD

[rotund ibex]

I believe, so yes. I did, personally

[fresh tartan]

is this a good ||bind build||? also what tools should i run? since im not running ||pouch||

also could replace ||longclaw|| with ||warding bell||

[wanton iris]

wait hold on how do I get the ||shaman crest||

[rotund ibex]

||There's a secret area to the right in their temple. Use your new ability to get there||

[wanton iris]

alr

[rotund ibex]

Looks good to me. You can never go wrong with ||cogflies and tacks||

[wanton iris]

the up one?

[rotund ibex]

If this is a combat-only build, I'd recommend switching out the map for the ||Ascedant's Grip|| as it allows to not worry about losing grip on walls, while the map is fairly useless

[sonic steppe]

bro, i gotta fight her with nothing?

[rotund ibex]

Yep

Gl xD

[sonic steppe]

this might be a tommorow me problem

[rotund ibex]

If it's late over there already, I'd say so, yes

The fight will require quite some concentration

[magic crystal]

Easy

[wanton iris]

who?

[rotund ibex]

There's one area that's a bit vague though. Can take a bit to find it

[magic crystal]

Yeah the spinning one for me

[hoary ibex]

i love how the wiki says ||crawfather|| will be one of the hardest bosses you fight in silksong, that fight was easy as hell

[magic crystal]

But not too hard just takes some thought

[rotund ibex]

I guess two then, but yes

[magic crystal]

Which were you talking about?

[rotund ibex]

||Yeah, especially since several tools make it very easy to dispatch the adds||

[sonic steppe]

wait am i slower as well? or am i imagining things

[rotund ibex]

The one in ||Far Fields||

[magic crystal]

Ah I see

[wanton iris]

oh wait where do I get the thing that gives an extra blue and yellow slot

[rotund ibex]

Have you been to the ||area below Moss Grotto?||

[wanton iris]

yea I've been to ||weavenest alta||

[rotund ibex]

Yeah,|| the hint is quite vague and the herald is located on the lower far right of the area, where you don't often go after completing things initially||

[rotund ibex]

Talk to ||Eva|| again then

[rotund ibex]

I don't quite recall, but it is possible

[sonic steppe]

whats the strat for || grandmother silks claw attack||

[hoary ibex]

anyone have a list of all the enemies and where to find them?

[rotund ibex]

Jump or move to either far corner, where ||she|| can't hit you

[rotund ibex]

You might want to look up a list online

[restive tartan]

anyone know where I go after fighting ||the dancers in the citidale?||

[hoary ibex]

missin the damn ||muckmaggot||

[robust adder]

||Interact with the thing that drops, then get the 3 melodies. A good place to start is in the room where you killed them, drop down into Cogworks||

[hexed rapids]

Any ||trobbio|| tips?

[restive tartan]

like the key you mean?

[robust adder]

Don't hit during ||Tornado, and your window to punish is whil his bombs are being thrown out and his arms are outstretched||

[hexed rapids]

Thx

[hoary ibex]

your going to want to play into his attacks,not away, if that makes sense

[robust adder]

After you ||beat them, you a platform should drop where you get the quest to find the 3 melodies. You can explore everywhere for them, but a good place to start is dropping right where you get the quest||

[prime heart]

Uhhhh i beat the game ||i thought there were 3 acts, why does it end after mother silk?||

[hoary ibex]

need to do a secret quest which has some requirements, i would just look it up online

[prime heart]

Haha thanks god, I was like whaaaaaaat

[hoary ibex]

dont worry bout it, just do everything you can beforehand

[restive tartan]

huh I think I missed that, is ||is Trubio required? Cause I killed him and I didnt really get anything||

[robust adder]

He's just there to open more connections between places. Right undernath ||Cogwork Dancers|| is a whole new area to explore.

[stoic arch]

Wtf
I had all ||mask shards|| but 1 left in ||act 3||, and I just relaunched the game to get the update, then I went on to get the last ||mask shard||, now I collected every single one (all 20) and it put 1/4 ||masks|| and I am unable to get max HP / the achievment.

[restive tartan]

thanks

[wanton iris]

I've activated ||act 3|| without going through and getting a few things from various shops, does that lock me out of those things or no?

[fossil silo]

how do you get ||infected with the parasite?||

[wanton iris]

like the ||weighted belt|| and I think a few ||thread fragments|| or sum

[wanton iris]

take something from the ||bilewater|| entrance from ||vaults|| through a secret door to the left to the bug person in ||shell wood||

[wooden badge]

You can’t lock yourself out of getting any ||tools||

Or any ||collectibles in general||

[wanton iris]

k, then how do I get them? I can't find the dude at ||pilgrim's rest|| or the shop lady at ||songclave||

[wooden badge]

The ||shopkeeper|| should be there

The items may have been taken to ||another shopkeeper of sorts||

[robust adder]

You can always google their locations

[iron heron]

i have the ||3 hearts|| and i got one from ||green prince|| but i still havent fought the ||coral king||. should i just go on with it or go back and fight it?

[robust adder]

I enjoyed fighting

[wanton iris]

ima js go kill the ||act 3|| final boss then get 100% bc I still don't know what percent I'm at

[wooden badge]

Doesnt really matter other than ||which heart you want as a memento in the end||

[iron heron]

do i need it for 100% and can i fight it after the quest ends?

[wooden badge]

Go explore the ||abyss|| you’ll be able to find an item that ||tells you your completion percent||

[iron heron]

i dont want to miss out but i also REALLY hate the runback to that boss

[wanton iris]

yea ik

wait in the normal ||abyss|| or past where I needed to get the ||everbloom|| for

[wooden badge]

Normal I got it on the first trip down

[wanton iris]

oh wait nvm I js looked it up, I gotta go back to my house

[cunning bay]

I beat ||Silkmother|| while ||cursed|| and I still have it (can I get rid of it?

[fresh tartan]

still tryna decide if i wanna do ||hunter, shaman, or witch|| lol, they all sound so cool

[wooden badge]

Ya

[wanton iris]

man I can't get mini bellies in ||abyss|| 😔

[robust adder]

Yeah, then you can go for the ||Other endings||

[wooden badge]

Yeah go ask around in ||bellhart for a hint||

[cunning bay]

Ok

[wanton iris]

oh wait is being ||cursed|| the thing you get before ||witch crest||?

[robust adder]

Yeah, once you ||get it cured you get witch crest||

[wooden badge]

Yes

[fleet walrus]

Is there a requirement to || unlock personal spa? Because i check Frey doesnt sell it to me yet i see others do, what is it i need to do so he can sell it?||

[wooden badge]

I’m not 100% sure but either ||buying enough stuff or being in act 3|| but could be wrong

[iron heron]

i think you have to buy other stuff

[fleet walrus]

Lowkey || i bought every stuff already||

[wooden badge]

Are you in ||act 3||

[fleet walrus]

Maybe || act3||

[wooden badge]

Yeah definitely that is when

[fleet walrus]

Aight

[narrow forge]

How much does ||volt filament|| increase for ||pale nails||?

From what I understand each nail is equivalent to 1 hit

[fresh tartan]

is there an optimal crest for ||flea festival||?

[iron heron]

||witch or hunter|| imo

[narrow forge]

I prefer ||wanderers|| because of its simplicity

[stuck shard]

Is there a way to beat this?

[wanton iris]

so ik this is late, but after you do that are you locked out of that one ending?

[dusty lodge]

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[wooden badge]

||wanderer|| is good for juggle

[wooden badge]

Once you ||remove the curse you can’t get the ending on that file correct||

[wanton iris]

😔

[narrow forge]

How much does ||volt filament|| increase for ||pale nails||? From what I understand each nail is equivalent to 1 hit

[wanton iris]

there any other things from ||curse|| that you need or js that ending?

like for achievements or percentages

[wooden badge]

Other than ||curing the curse and killing GMS while cursed|| , I don’t believe so

[rotund ibex]

||Shaman is epic if you don't get hit a lot, cause you can deal insane damage with silk skills if also combined with the volt tool. Hunter is a solid default build with some nail damage potential, but also involves not getting hit too frequently. Witch I haven't used myself a whole lot, so wouldn't know what to say||

[wooden badge]

||witch|| has the best base move set imo

[rotund ibex]

Toss a ||grenade in the water in Sinner's Road, Bilewater or Putrified Ducts|| a few times

[floral shoal]

did you reply to the correct message?

[rotund ibex]

No, it would seem the chat moved as I clicked lol

[rotund ibex]

This was meant for this person xD

[rotund ibex]

||Try talking to the Chapel Maid if you haven't already. Or the barkeep in Greymoor||

[floral shoal]

||For me, I like using shaman with the flea charm, weaverlight and volt filament, but hunter is also fun with the damage buff||

[ornate trellis]

does anyone know the best bone shard farming location in || act 3 ||

[narrow forge]

Just buy them

[wooden badge]

Farm ||rosaries near the original entrance to high halls with the tool|| and then just buy them yea

[ornate trellis]

ok thanks

[wise nacelle]

fr

||I have way too many rosaries in act 3||

||Crawbell is also a good source||

[cinder nexus]

just to be sure, if you use the autosave revert function, you can always go back to a different autosave afterwards right

[wise nacelle]

Any previous one, not a future one though

As far as I know anyway

[ebon sundial]

why whenever im farming rosaries in ||act 2|| i go in with 4 ||cogflies|| and only come out the room with 1? this bug has kept happening and idk why 😭

[wise nacelle]

||Reverting undoes stuff so if you did a bunch of things between autosaves and revert, that progress is gone||

[random juniper]

Does the game timer also pause when you're in the pause menu ?

[wise nacelle]

is it hitting something

[wise nacelle]

iirc yes

[ebon sundial]

not sure, they hit the top wall of the room to the upper left of ||songclave|| when i exit tho

[random juniper]

Thanks that'll help with the speedrun achievements ^^

[narrow forge]

Yeah I think that's a bug, not sure what causes it

[wise nacelle]

I feel I'd have been doomed if it wasn't the case so I'm pretty sure

[ebon sundial]

im gonna go into shard debt

[wise nacelle]

Imagine not having ||the infinite shell shard thingie||

[narrow forge]

• rosary farming
• shard spending
• use rosary to buy shards
• repeat

[wise nacelle]

Before you ask||, it's steel soul exclusive||

[ebon sundial]

i was indeed gonna ask, also how do u even get ||steel soul||

[wise nacelle]

Beat the game

[naive storm]

||Is there any way to get Harpoon without Drifters Cloak?||

[wise nacelle]

yes

[ebon sundial]

pain

[wise nacelle]

||Float is not required to beat the game, but it is for completion||

[wise nacelle]

||Doesn't even need to be the act 3 ending, any ending will do||

[naive storm]

||How? I've been looking for a while and came so far avoiding getting Cloak but the only open path to harpoon i see is with a wind gust||

[ebon sundial]

no clue how to get any of them 😭 ||i thought the act 3 ending was the only one, till i remembered in hk theres multiple endings thats not the actual game completions or whatever||

[wise nacelle]

||There's temporary platforms to hop to harpoon to get it then you have to harpoon out because they're gone||

[wooden badge]

If you don’t do the ||silk and shade quest then killing GMS is its own ending||

[ebon sundial]

||do i complete the fine pins quest by killing those guys in the underworks?||

[wise nacelle]

||Well, you have to get an ending to even enter Act 3 so, like, you'll get there||

[wooden badge]

No, ||chambers||

[ebon sundial]

eventually

[wise nacelle]

||4 endings in all||

@wooden badge I feel we met a while back

How you doing

[ebon sundial]

anywhere specific to look? or is it just anywhere i go there

[ebon sundial]

no clue what those are yet, dont tell me

[wooden badge]

The enemies right outside ||grand bellway|| can drop them and it’s an easy farm

[ebon sundial]

thanks :D

[wooden badge]

But they don’t drop 100% of the time

[wooden badge]

P good I haven’t been here in a while just trying to help out

[wise nacelle]

||it's called Silk and soul, the player doesn't know void is envolved until they get the ending||

[ebon sundial]

well if i can get an item twice thats supposed to be 0.05% chance to get and my friend had to afk grind it for 4 hours to get one then i think im lucky enough to get it alot

[wise nacelle]

same

[naive storm]

||My problem is getting past here to even be in the room at all. The only way i know to get into that part of underworks is through archtect spider room and the passage is blocked by a wind gust. Is there another pathway?||

[narrow forge]

You cant go up the gust?

[naive storm]

||Im trying to beat the game without getting cloak||

[wise nacelle]

||Whiteward||

[narrow forge]

Ah crud

[wise nacelle]

Hold up lemme go there and test something

[fresh tartan]

||warding bell or longclaw|| for ||witch build||?

[wise nacelle]

Whichever works best for you

[narrow forge]

Imo warding is unnecessary if you just learn when to bind safely

[fresh tartan]

i go for my bind to get damage sometimes since thats the build, but then i get hit so idk

[wooden badge]

I liked ||longclaw||

I used ||mirror, fast bind, longclaw as my main witch tools||

[fiery hearth]

Journal help: only missing one, no idea where it is besides probably somewhere in ||Hunter's March|| or ||Far Fields|| based on the surrounding entries. (the one not completed besides that one is an ||Abyss|| enemy that I'll handle when I go there next)

[wooden badge]

||witch has a high skill floor but also a high skill ceiling since the bind does a ton of damage||

[naive storm]

||Ive gone through whiteeard no problem, and even got to architects room, this is the area i have acess rn. Idk if im missing smth but it seems most other options are one-way
The yellow is the bridge that opens by levers but it locks you out of expoloring the rest of the room, idk if u can cheese it in some way||

[narrow forge]

Ah my bad. If that's the case then yeah I would use warding, I think longnail is unnecessary for that crest

[fresh tartan]

i mean if i can learn bind safer longclaw might be better, i might run bell for now tho

[wooden badge]

Knowing when to bind safely for ||witch|| is the key thing so I would recommend

Since it’s your primary damage output, esp with ||mirror(s)||

[naive storm]

||Is there any other accesible crest that jumps when u do charge atk? Ive seen people use the jump from Beast Crest to make stuff like this but beast crest itself seems inaccessible without cloak||

[stable lava]

||oops||

[raven token]

|| is it normal that i got the double jump before unlocking map in the slab? ||

[narrow forge]

Kinda yeah

[naive storm]

||You def missed it, the slab map is pretty early on||

[narrow forge]

What

[raven token]

||do i need to get kidnapped / what? i alr collected all 3 melodies can i still get kidnapped ? ||

[fresh tartan]

whats the best skill for ||witch||? im running nails rn

[cunning bay]

I think so

[naive storm]

||Ow, u didnt get kidnapped? i dont think its necessary, its just more on your way if u did||

[cunning bay]

Like you can still get ||kidnapped|| is what I mean

[wise nacelle]

||You have to get key of apostate if you killed all the jailers ||

To access the rest

[raven token]

|| jailer ? the one that kidnap me? can i go there without getting kidnapped ? ||

[fresh tartan]

also i feel like ||weavelight|| wouldnt be bad on ||witch||

[wise nacelle]

||You can, it's just more involved to get there without getting nabbed||

[wooden badge]

I also used that

On occasion

[wise nacelle]

@naive storm ngl idk, maybe ask speedrun chat or something

Most of them I see use float, the runs online I mean

[fresh tartan]

my current setup

[narrow forge]

You should def do ||tormented trobbio||

[wooden badge]

I also used ||reserve bind|| a bunch

[fresh tartan]

also ||reserve bind|| is a thing

[raven token]

|| can i enter it from the slab near mount fay/ choral chamber? cause i dont find any other entrance rn ||

[fresh tartan]

fight im on rn lol

[narrow forge]

Good luck! Bitch keeps spamming flashbangs

[robust adder]

When going for all ||5 endings, am I locked out of any one of them? I thought there were only 3, and I did the Parasite ending first. I cleansed it now, beat the game "normally", and beat it once more for Act 3. Am I on track for the other 3 endings?||

Make sure you ||Save every flea, and get all maps + do her quest||

[narrow forge]

You already did 3. The next is the main story ending, but the other one is done by doing a quest for a ||mushroom||

[wooden badge]

There’s only one real ||ending|| left, and then an addon of sorts

[wise nacelle]

||You need key of apostate iirc to access it if you weren't kidnapped and cannot currently get kidnapped because going through choral chambers it's largerly blocked off and the keys you'd normally get to open it up by getting kidnapped/nabbed aren't accessible||

[fresh tartan]

the worst attack for me is the ||balls|| other than that its super fun

[robust adder]

@hushed pike

[winged trail]

Does ||magma bell|| help against ||Last Judge||?

[raven token]

|| so my goal now is getting kidnapped? lol||

[narrow forge]

Yes, with her fire phase

[fresh tartan]

im debating replacing warding since the only time i can bind is when i dont get hit lol

[robust adder]

Wait, I got ||3 endings? Getting to act 3 in of itself is considered an ending, because of the credits rolling?||

[narrow forge]

Yes

[robust adder]

Okay, thank you

[wooden badge]

You definitely should

[wise nacelle]

If you still can, yes

[robust adder]

17 of the ones listed below where it says "17 of these listed below"

[fresh tartan]

maybe warding is better agains tmobs, idk

||reserve bind seems interesting||, but i already generate a good amount of silk

my main three for my last blue are ||weavelight, reserve bind, longclaw||, but i can only pick one

[raven token]

|| should i explore bilewater/ fight silk mother 1st? is there something in bilewater that changes the ending? ||

[wooden badge]

I like ||longclaw||

[cunning bay]

You could say that

[raven token]

||alr gonna try to kill her first then||

[neon axle]

How do I open up this area below, in the ||weavers den in the far fields||?

[fresh tartan]

theres no harm in doing ||bilewater|| first, but either way it should be fine

[fresh tartan]

run with ||silk speed boost tool and flea brew||

[narrow forge]

Run with brew and anklets

[raven token]

|| what do i get there?||

[cunning bay]

How do people find out about this tho💔

[robust adder]

Because it looks like a good area to run in, especially with the lights going off

[cunning bay]

||Bone bottom|| ain't no way I gotta censor that 💔💔💔

[narrow forge]

I KNOW RIGHT. How is that a spoiler??

[dusty lodge]

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[wooden badge]

I think just a relic

[narrow forge]

Dirtmouth pharloom isn't a spoiler

[spice blaze]

where can i find the guy that ||captures and takes you to the slab? i killed the guy in deep docks but i still wanna get captured (im in act 2)||

[narrow forge]

Try the outside of ||greymoor bellway||

[spice blaze]

i checked an he wasnt there :(

[cunning bay]

Yh

Do other wishes and it will eventually pop up

[narrow forge]

Aw dang

[cunning bay]

Nvm it's in ||bellhart|| mb

[noble vessel]

hi guys ive been trying to fight ||lace|| in ||deep docks|| for like 50 times now and ive died so much im so tired, are there any tips to defeat her 😭 and yes i have the|| dash ability||

[cunning nymph]

hmm i'm missing 2 ||memory lockets|| where might they be

[wooden badge]

Kill ||beastfly 1 ?||

Ya it’s in ||bellhart||

[cunning bay]

The urge to say gut gud

[noble vessel]

thanks very helpful

[cunning bay]

But just go focus on dodging her attacks

Then learn the windows on when to counter attack and she should be easy from there

[wooden badge]

||lace|| as a fight is very much an individualized ||dodge, punish, reset|| fight

[noble vessel]

i try

its prolly just a me problem but yeah hollow knight was so much easier

[wooden badge]

When ||she parries do a short hop then a dash forward|| you’ll dodge every time

[noble vessel]

okay thats good advice thank you

[wooden badge]

If she ||ground parries|| you can get like 3 hits in easily, ||air parry|| you can get an easy bind

[noble vessel]

also in ||hunters march|| is there any tips for hitting the bouncing pumpkins things i find it so hard

[wooden badge]

Practice mainly but there will be ||other crests|| with more generous pogo

[weary flicker]

"Would you like to make a trade?" But nothing happens

What do I have to do?

[noble vessel]

broo i’ve been getting 2 hits max and im trying to use the ||silk spear|| too but then i cant heal bruh so hard and frustrating

[wooden badge]

Don’t rush it, slow the fight down and focus on dodge primarily, then hitting

[warm hazel]

How to beat ||karmelita|| I'm crashing out over this ||ant||

[wooden badge]

Overagression/facetanking is much less useful of a strategy in Skong as compared to HK

[wooden badge]

Similar thing, one attack at a time

When I beat it I also used ||plasmium and loaded up when I got to phase 3||

[narrow forge]

Dodging away before an attack virtually avoids any of her attacks, just react accordingly if it's ranged or her bone shockwave

[warm hazel]

I'm using an ||architect build|| and absolutely shredding, but in ||phase 3|| I only have 1 weapon left and I didn't have enough silk to ||regen my other weapons||

[warm hazel]

I'm using the ||cogflies, tacks and cogwork wheel||

[wooden badge]

Try to learn phase 1 no tools

So that you have them for when the fight speeds up

[tulip brook]

||save ur tools for the later phases, the boss is pretty laid back til they start their second phase||

[robust adder]

To complete the ||hunter's journal||, am I locked out of anything by being in ||Act 3||?

[narrow forge]

No, anything missable is either not required or is auto completed

[robust adder]

And am I allowed to return to ||Viridian|| any time I want?

[short drum]

how do i get the last ||heart in shellwood i swear i've looked everywhere||

[narrow forge]

||Verdania||? I think you get locked if you beat ||clover dancers||, but the entries autocomplete if they aren't

[wooden badge]

No but when you complete it it autocompletes the journal

[robust adder]

Oh sweet, I was worried I'd have to leave and exit the dream over and over to finish it

[wooden badge]

||elevator shaft in grand gate||

[neon axle]

How can I open this passage?

[eternal swallow]

I am not sure if this is ||act 3||, but I was locked out of the ||pure version of wormways mobs, now they're plasmium'd||

[eternal swallow]

||steel soul exclusive||

[urban wagon]

if you kill the ||plasminium|| version does it not give you the og entry as well?

[worldly zephyr]

is killing ||seth|| required to reach ||nyleth?||

[wooden badge]

Yup

[worldly zephyr]

darn it.

[narrow forge]

Yes

I mean, ||he just falls off the bridge||

[worldly zephyr]

defeating, then

[hexed hamlet]

Nothing related to ||the ridiculousness of how I somehow have everything but still can't progress||

But

||I absolutely love the little slice of life things in this game, such as the Materium, the relic and psalm cylinder descriptions, it all just adds so much and I love it.||

Also

||WHY DID THE ANTS WANT THE BEER, IS QUEEN CARMALITA OR WHATEVER HER NAME IS (just know her from the trailers, nothing else) HAVING A COCKTAIL PARTY???||

[wooden badge]

I’m dming you the requirements

[worldly zephyr]

any ||karmelita|| tips?

[narrow forge]

You can ||dash|| away for anytime she starts an attack and that avoids anything really, just react accordingly if it's ranged or her bone shockwave. Alternatively if you know it's a ranged attack, you can deflect her shurikens. There's a few instances where you could get a pogo hit in when she's attacking

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[open bane]

is there anything missable for achievements before I start ||act 3||?

[narrow forge]

Yes, an ending

[open bane]

||cursed ending||, yeah I've done that

anything else?

[narrow forge]

If that's the case, everything else missable is optional

[open bane]

alright

[neon axle]

Is there any point to this area?

[narrow forge]

Lore, also I think there's a ||secret entrance to the right||

[old yoke]

Where’s all the shardillard locations?

[dreamy zephyr]

The thing in the screenshot is lore, but next to it there's a ||Choral Commandment||

[raven ore]

Do i miss out on ||seth|| in ||act3||

[dreamy zephyr]

It's impossible to meet him in earlier acts, so you can't "miss out"

[raven ore]

Oh ok i thougt he was always there

[pure gate]

Dont send your question twice in a row in 2 channel, it's against the rule

[unreal hawk]

What's the point of the ||Druid's Eye/Tears|| tool? The green silk it gives can't be used for skills or healing

[open bane]

the green silk becomes white after accumulating enough

[unreal hawk]

So you need to take multiple hits to get 1 attack worth of silk?
That's a little disappointing

[open bane]

you can upgrade it

[static night]

Funny how a slight change can make an overpowered thing fucking ass

||the grubsong druid eye switchup is crazy, but the removal of notches probably killed it just as much as it helped q+d focus||

[pseudo vortex]

Never understood the hype around it, why would i wanna use something that rewards me for getting hit?

[pure gate]

In hollow knight you can tank hit a lot and the charm cost 1 notch and it give good amount of soul

[robust adder]

What do you do with the mining outcrops in ||Mt Fay's cave and Voltnest||

[keen dragon]

They give ||Materium entries||

[robust adder]

Do I have to hit them

[static night]

Because its not seen as ||a reward for getting hit, its more like a way to make your mistakes more forgiving||

[keen dragon]

No just interact me thinks

[weary flicker]

||Is this important? Like really really important because I have a bad feeling about this||

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[robust adder]

Barely anything tbh

[keen dragon]

You are right ||but dont you wanna find out what happens?||

[primal scaffold]

I'm hearing a voice in this speciphic room of ||Act 3 Choral Chambers||. Is it something important I can interact with or is just something to confuse the hell out of me?

[weary flicker]

OK bro

[keen dragon]

Just to incite curiosity, try finding the source. HINT:||Down||

[weary flicker]

Noooooo

[glossy dune]

YALL I GOT IT.

bired

[robust adder]

Anybody have any tips for ||Watcher at the Edge||

[pure gate]

Dont be aggressive? His attack is just ||dash|| to dodge

[glossy dune]

what to do after me got ||double juamp||
do i need to do da quest for|| lace 2.0 ||

[pure gate]

Explore places with it?

[glossy dune]

okie

[weary flicker]

||Brooo heplll I can't do anything hahahahah||

[glossy dune]

lol

[wise nacelle]

||it's not in shellwood||

[glossy dune]

yall where is the ||spa guy|| i wanna slape him, i freed him ik

[prisma wadi]

He means the ||pollip heart||

[wise nacelle]

||Get cured, or get cursed ending||

[wise nacelle]

ah

[glossy dune]

WHERE IS HE PLEASE 🙏

[wise nacelle]

||Did they get the one from the bellhart tunnels shortcut?||

[spark bronze]

If i have the ||hivesteel needle||, how many upgrades are left?

[wise nacelle]

||spa guy?||

[glossy dune]

yes the ||freaky one||

[wise nacelle]

1

[prisma wadi]

The ||flea||

[wise nacelle]

||Kratt? we talking fleas?||

[glossy dune]

FOUND HIM

[wise nacelle]

Cool

[pure gate]

||bellhart|| people should give you a hint

[glossy dune]

now me hit him >:]

[wise nacelle]

Okay

[glossy dune]

lol

got em

[prisma wadi]

If you ||hit him you’ll get free acces to the spa forever||

[primal scaffold]

Is there any way to get a second ||Snare setter||? Because I found out it's a tool, but I already used mine to activate ||Act 3||.

[glossy dune]

ik i did

[prisma wadi]

No

[wise nacelle]

||It's not part of completion if that's what you're worried about||

||You can technically get it as soon as you get double jump but it's really only to get to act 3 I don't think it's that much of a game changer tool for it's temporary use||

[primal scaffold]

I don't care about completion, is that I heard that it was pretty good for the ||Reaper Crest||, which I'm a main of.

[wise nacelle]

Considering how late you get it at the earliest, hardly worth it, you'll just have to get it as soon as you can on a future playthrough

[glossy dune]

yall what is the best spot for red balls grinding via fast travel acsessable with a bench

[wise nacelle]

Weird way to describe rosaries but alright

[glossy dune]

lol

[wise nacelle]

And it depends, what's your progression

[primal scaffold]

||The Citadel||, and it's not even close.

[glossy dune]

just finished ||mount fay|| and didn't start ||lace 2||

[wise nacelle]

||Big guys near songclave||

[glossy dune]

what's ||songclave|| agin

[wise nacelle]

||The town||

[glossy dune]

can you screenshot from the map 🥀

[wise nacelle]

||The Town in the Citadel||

[glossy dune]

oh

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

but it's so far away from fast travel 🥀

[wise nacelle]

||You don't have the Ventrica?||

[static night]

Did you never ||buy the 80 rosaries machine in the bellway and in there?||

If not do so

[glossy dune]

i have only ||grand bellway||

[static night]

Then go up to ||songclave and buy the one there||

[robust adder]

Is ||Plasmified Zango|| a boss? I found him in ||Act 3 huffing the blue stuff near the bench, but he's not hostile...||

[glossy dune]

okiea

i need to uppy 🥀

[wise nacelle]

||Plasmified Zango is elsewhere, and not really||

[robust adder]

How do I find him :0

[static night]

Its not that far its like 2 rooms away

[wise nacelle]

||He just heals a lot||

[wise nacelle]

||Break walls in wormways||

[glossy dune]

bro ts is not fast travel 🥀

[wise nacelle]

||It literally takes you to grand bellway wym||

and there's a bench so you can bench reset

[glossy dune]

okie

OH MY GOD TY

[robust adder]

You don't even get anything for killing him...?

[wise nacelle]

||Well, technically, it can lead to any ventrica you've bought||

[wise nacelle]

Journal entry

[glossy dune]

ooo sigma

WHAT THE HELL WHERE AM I GNG

[static night]

This tells me you did not buy ||the bellway ventrica||

[wise nacelle]

||Lmao, bro went to terminus, go back||

[glossy dune]

I DID

[wise nacelle]

||did you not get the bellway one?||

[glossy dune]

oh ill buy it

Bought

[primal scaffold]

That's just a demo for the "final" area of the game. There's absolutelly nothing in there specifically, but it exists and you'll need it later on.

[glossy dune]

Okie

[wise nacelle]

||Really no need to say that, it unlocks automatically when buying a ventrica||

[glossy dune]

bro ||pail oil|| is so fucking hard to get ong

i hate the flying guy

[wise nacelle]

He got nerfed too

[glossy dune]

Wild

[wise nacelle]

||He used to do 2 masks||

[glossy dune]

nah

[wise nacelle]

Yeah

[fresh tartan]

apparently missing a ||map for the all maps achievement|| but have no idea which one i could be missing

[primal scaffold]

Show screenshot

[wise nacelle]

I know which one

[glossy dune]

YES YES YES I KAFASDUGHASDFIOGHA;LSDOIGFHASD;OiHGO;USADG

[primal scaffold]

Have you freed that Green NPC in ||Sinner's Road||?

[fresh tartan]

yeah, found him after ||dancers|| but not since then

[wise nacelle]

||Have you met Green Prince in Citadel in act 3||

[fresh tartan]

where is he?

havent seen him this act

[wise nacelle]

||Go to Crawlake||

[wise nacelle]

||If you saw him at dancers then you're good I think||

[primal scaffold]

Well, eventually, he'll open a path at the right of ||Greymor||, go there and explore it.

[robust adder]

If I start the ||passing of the age|| quest before doing ||true ending|| would I have to do a bunch of stuff over to get the ||true ending|| again

[wise nacelle]

||You do have to get an ending to get the Mr mushroom ending but otherwise nothing changes||

[robust adder]

Would you recommend I ||do it normally or do the Mushroom ending first?||

[fresh tartan]

ah okay, thought it mightve been ||coral tower|| but dont see anywehre online that says it has a map

[wise nacelle]

it doesn't really master

[fresh tartan]

isnt ||mr mushroom ending the same as true ending but with extra||?

[robust adder]

Okay

[wise nacelle]

*matter

[fresh tartan]

like a little bit

[wise nacelle]

||Yeah, it's just an extra cutscene||

||Just like in HK||

[fresh tartan]

i wanna do that wish but ive heard horror stories

ive heard ||it isnt harder than path of pain || tho

[wise nacelle]

it's not that bad

[fresh tartan]

and i did that

[wise nacelle]

People are just bad

[wise nacelle]

Not by a mile

[glossy dune]

YES I GOT ||PALE OIL||
OH MY GOD

[jovial trellis]

my power went out for a moment while playing silksong, when my power turned on i opened silksong and my save was corrupted i use an autosave from 10:30 (it said, but i might have misread since it was late) but it was after i ||recruited the knight (that fights moorwing)|| even though ||i recruited him around 1:20||, how can i make sure nothing is corrupted?

[fresh tartan]

i wouldnt consider myself good lol, i just brute forced pop

[wise nacelle]

congratulations

[wise nacelle]

||it's an insult to call the surface climb pop||

[fresh tartan]

||fflea festival|| was a lot of fun, idk if im willing to get the memento tho

[fresh tartan]

valid, pop took me forever lmao

[glossy dune]

ehm

[fresh tartan]

i got spolier marked for ||compass|| once

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[wise nacelle]

||Guaedian momento? it's not that bad, what I'm doing is brutal, I've done everything, so I'm just getting absurd scores||

[glossy dune]

shush bot

[fresh tartan]

i got a bit higher than needed for ||pale oil|| on everything except juggle

[wise nacelle]

Bot tweaks over the weirdest things sometimes

[wise nacelle]

||Lol, I have a 107 on juggle||

[fresh tartan]

but idk, what do the mementos do? i know theyre for the house but if its nothing else i dont really care all that much

[wise nacelle]

It's just a collectable

[fresh tartan]

like yeah its cool but idk if i need every single one

[wise nacelle]

But it's something to do when you've done most things

[fresh tartan]

ill try and get most at least

[glossy dune]

||
is ma needle like deals more damage ?||

[fresh tartan]

yeah im afraid of when ill finish the game, since in not good enough for ||steel soul||

[wise nacelle]

I personally think it's worth getting them all once, But I like to get them all on all my files

[fresh tartan]

ng+ wouldve been awesome but i understand why it doesnt have it

[glossy dune]

?

[fresh tartan]

yeah

[glossy dune]

yipaee

[wise nacelle]

||it actually does less damage/j||

[glossy dune]

WHAT-

[fresh tartan]

scammed

[glossy dune]

nah

i killed an npc with 3 hits now it's 2

[wise nacelle]

||You can do it last, speed completion and speedrun should prepare you plenty||

[fresh tartan]

ice noticed how i was playing with ||hunter crest|| was really careful, with ||witch|| im just running to enemies and blowing up lmao

[fresh tartan]

i dont really like ||speedrunning|| in general, i like taking my time, but i might try them

[wise nacelle]

I even tagged it as a joke and they still fell for it

[fresh tartan]

only achievements i was missing for og hk was ||speedrun and steel soul|| as well

[wise nacelle]

I'm not the biggest fan either but I wanted all achievements and it's pretty linient

*lenient

[fresh tartan]

im fine with most achievements for my games i play, as long as i get all the content

[wise nacelle]

Like as long as you're not going after a WR you can not do most skips and still make time

[glossy dune]

oh ma gad it's it's DA 67 IS REAL

[wise nacelle]

wild

[open rampart]

||apparently steelsoul has some exclusive areas in silksong||

[fresh tartan]

but like i dont wanna stress myself out with the other stuff

[wise nacelle]

||Exclusive quest and item/s too||

[fresh tartan]

actually im missing more than that lmao, nvm. i got confused

[open rampart]

crazy
u done steelsoul ?

[open rampart]

trying to 100%?

[fresh tartan]

i was looking back on my hk achievements

[open rampart]

ohh okay

[wise nacelle]

||I'm on mine rn getting absurd flea game scores cause I did everything||

[fresh tartan]

ive never technically gotten to 112 since i never beat pantheon

cant remember if i got stuck at 4 or 5

[open rampart]

||can u give tips for the dodging one?||

[wise nacelle]

You only need to beat P4, P5 is not a %

[open rampart]

||seth is wooping my ass||

[wise nacelle]

||Flea dodge?||

[open rampart]

p5 is just a flex xD

[fresh tartan]

okay, so thats where i got stuck. i might go back to it on a new file someday

[open rampart]

yeah

[wise nacelle]

Yeah, it's a bit of a rough fight

[glossy dune]

|| Is there anther pail oil in act 2? ||

[vernal zinc]

beyond a hidden wall in ||Blasted steps|| i found this little room, i think i've explore it all but i can still hear lil guys for some reasons. can someone give me A VAGUE/CRYPTID HINT (please do not tell the solution, i have been spoiled for so much )

[fresh tartan]

i havent found ||seth|| yet, been busy with like a ton of other things

[glossy dune]

.

[fresh tartan]

yeah

[open rampart]

||yes all except 1 pale oil are in act 2||

[open rampart]

||lil guys are just scared of u||

[wise nacelle]

||usually the newer platform is the one that stays and the older one falls standing on the edge of the platform misses the one coming straight down, pogo on big flea||

[wise nacelle]

||Be quick||

[wise nacelle]

Yes

[glossy dune]

wat is da location of it

[wise nacelle]

Are you asking for a hint or an answer

[fresh tartan]

where did you get the first one

[solid dragon]

Pharloom

[glossy dune]

answer

[solid dragon]

||vaults||

[fresh tartan]

you ahve to go back to hk and milk pale king

[glossy dune]

okie

[wise nacelle]

||Go to the dinning hall and talk to mergwin||

[open rampart]

i already do all that .... im cooked

[wise nacelle]

That's the one they got I think

[wise nacelle]

what's getting you then

[glossy dune]

Okie

[solid dragon]

I thought that one was the less obvious one, but yea now they know both answers at least

[wise nacelle]

||They made no mention of tastes of pharloom so that's the implication imo||

||The speedrun pale oil||

[open rampart]

i have a chronic case of ||skill issue||

[wise nacelle]

Get cured then

[solid dragon]

Its terminal

[open rampart]

i need to ||GIT GUD||

[jovial trellis]

what should i do before ||fighting moorwing||? Im having trouble, are there ||more tools i could get||? I dont mind spoilers as long as they arent too heavy

[pure gate]

Couldnt you just skip that fight and go somewhere else

[jovial trellis]

is the reward for the fight good?

[patent thunder]

that require you to get ||fleas and move the caravan to greymoor||

[jovial trellis]

or more difficult to skip

[wise nacelle]

You have to do lost|| fleas|| for that I think, and that just means you have to do it elsewhere

[patent thunder]

||if you skip it, you get access to more areas. even so, you'll still have to fight it somewhere else||

[wise nacelle]

I'd say so

[pure gate]

Pretti sure that boss is optional but hm

[jovial trellis]

||then, what tools should i get||

[pure gate]

What attack do you struggle with
Dont stand directly below it, stand slightly off center
Most attack just require jumping to dodge

[jovial trellis]

sorry, ||the dash attack||

[wise nacelle]

||Maybe to beating the game but no journal entry that's needed for hunters momento is skippable or I should say missable, there's always a way to fight it||

[wise nacelle]

Pogo

[jovial trellis]

||most of the time i cant see when it dashes, or throws a projectile which hits me||

[wise nacelle]

why are you so far away from it

[jovial trellis]

||dash attack||

[wise nacelle]

if you're so far away you can't see them that defeats the purpose

[jovial trellis]

||also the knight chases it away||

||its second phase attacks too fast||

[wise nacelle]

||I've never fought Moorwing with Garmond and Zaza but I know that typically npcs helping you with fights, help they don't shoo it away, but idk, I never did it with Garmond and Zaza||

[wise nacelle]

Then learn it

[jovial trellis]

||what about the tools i could get?||

[pure gate]

Keep distance so you have time to prepare for it attack, like most boss @jovial trellis

[jovial trellis]

||im asking for tools dude||

[pure gate]

I like the ||spike ball from forge daughter||

[wise nacelle]

||Curve claw is good too||

[jovial trellis]

||wheres forge daughter||

[glossy dune]

Yall i have a question

||What the hell is the citadel story / lore, why all the bugs dressed in white cloths ||

[wise nacelle]

[glossy dune]

oh yeah worng channel

[pure gate]

Idk choosen bug, or rich bug, or reward for being devoted and reach the top

[wise nacelle]

Go ask #sk-lore

[jovial trellis]

?

[wise nacelle]

Nothing, something just amusing to me

But you haven't found them yet?

[pure gate]

||deep dock||

[jovial trellis]

||what does it do||

||and curve claw?||

[proper arrow]

||act 3|| question: Is it me or do the entries in the ||Hunter's Journal|| auto-fill when you end the ||dreams|| like in ||Verdania|| or ||Coral Tower||

[wise nacelle]

||I could understand missing Molted Skarr but how do you miss Forge Daughter||

[wise nacelle]

yes

[wise nacelle]

They do

[jovial trellis]

wdym yes?

[wise nacelle]

Yes, you should get it

[jovial trellis]

???? i was asking what it does

[pure gate]

Yea
You wouldnt have access to it afterward so

[open rampart]

||its a boomarang||

[wise nacelle]

||It's a boomerang||

Great for Aerial enemies

[jovial trellis]

||where is it?||

[wise nacelle]

||Hunters March||

[pure gate]

It's not really needed to win though, you should focus on dodging the boss

[wise nacelle]

^

[jovial trellis]

||what does the other one do?||

[wise nacelle]

It's better to learn patterns then to cheese

[wise nacelle]

||spike ball?||

[jovial trellis]

yes

[wise nacelle]

||explodes into spikes when something hits it and sits in midair||

[cinder nexus]

[||act3|| spoilers] how do I reach this room in the ||far fields|| in ||act 3||? the room below the climb up, I mean.

[wise nacelle]

||The lower room?||

[cinder nexus]

yes

[pure gate]

Check ||belltown|| quest

[open rampart]

||its a wish specific room||
||youll get its quest in bellhart||

[cinder nexus]

I see, thanks. so, later room.

[cinder nexus]

ty!

[jovial trellis]

||is the spike ball for free?||

[wise nacelle]

No

[jovial trellis]

how much

[wise nacelle]

||idk 240 or somethin, and a craftmetal||

[vernal zinc]

SPOILERS FOR A MERCHANT IN ||blasted steps|| does this make enemies drop ||rosaries or shell shards|| when hit?

[wise nacelle]

yes

[jovial trellis]

where is it btw

[vernal zinc]

wait both?

[wise nacelle]

where is what

[open rampart]

||i have had this and have no clue how to use it xD||

[jovial trellis]

||forge daughter||

[wise nacelle]

Not both

||Just rosaries||

[vernal zinc]

ooooooo good to know

[open rampart]

here

[wise nacelle]

explore

[jolly summit]

ghost ping

bruh

[open rampart]

here have a normal ping

[jolly summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-shot-gif-20835748

[open rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-guy-chokes-himself-choking-myself-choking-to-death-anime-choke-gif-25057141

[jovial trellis]

have a silent ping too

[dusty lodge]

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[jolly summit]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-hikikomori-gif-9348518

[bold mango]

(Mid to Late Act 1 Optional secret)
||anyone have a firm grasp on when Pilby, the small bench-side pilgrim begins his journey? I had hoped it would be upon saving bellhart, but it seems to be later than that. Reaching the citadel/act 2 perhaps? 2nd playthrough so any info is welcomed||

[jovial trellis]

how to open?

[wise nacelle]

||simple key||

[bold mango]

Need a ||simple key||

[wise nacelle]

I wouldn't go there rn though

[jovial trellis]

hm?

is that not to ||forge daughter||

[heady tulip]

No

[bold mango]

There is one noteworthy item in there rn ||namely a tool which gives you some extra nail damage via fire. Some other rewards in there but your access will be somewhat limited.||

[wise nacelle]

Lmao no

[jovial trellis]

where then

[bold mango]

She is above the door. Look for platforms upwards

[jovial trellis]

i'll keep in mind

[wise nacelle]

||Bros gonna get bodied by deep divers and flintrock tossers||

[jovial trellis]

|| do i buy crafting kit?||

[bold mango]

There is one other place you can use a ||simple key on rn for a defensive tool but it is sorta hidden and behind a quest. Both options are good tho so you cant go wrong with either as long as you find one. There are enough keyes for every lock tho lest you worry||

[heady tulip]

It's pretty useful if you use your ||Straight Pin a lot||

[wise nacelle]

||yes, it increases tool dmg||

[bold mango]

Yea the enemies behind this key are difficult. So wherever you use a key, know it will be hard to move though. But again, when youre ready and if you find the items in either zone, the doors are worth while

[jovial trellis]

||what about the spike ball where is it||

[wise nacelle]

||I feel wormways is the better first simple key use||

[heady tulip]

||Forge Daughter sells it,,,||

[wise nacelle]

Bought from her

[jovial trellis]

||i dont see it||

[wise nacelle]

||Alright, I see the problem here you're taking this literal, it's Sting shard||

[jovial trellis]

bruh

[bold mango]

Mhm. Can be a pain if you arent prepared but ||plasmium is wonderful early game. Can always do both in act 1 if you are bold enough to enter|| (optional act 1 area) ||and clear sinner's road||

[wise nacelle]

It's not LITERALLY called ||Spike ball|| lmao

[wise nacelle]

yeah

[bold mango]

You also need ||a craftmetal|| to buy it, ||the sting shard||

Speaking of why havent i bought that on my new file lmao

[wise nacelle]

idk

[bold mango]

Forgot to dip back for it

[wise nacelle]

One of the first things I get

[jovial trellis]

i do have the ||craftmetal||

[wise nacelle]

then get it

[jovial trellis]

I cant

[heady tulip]

Broke surely

[bold mango]

||i grabbed magma bell and the crafting kit and then i guess just never remembered to return lmao||

[wise nacelle]

Lmao, always a reason

[jovial trellis]

I already spent it

[bold mango]

Any insight on this btw?

[wise nacelle]

||You can have 2 craftmetals by then though||

[jovial trellis]

||how is wormways better btw||

[bold mango]

Ye lmao. I was much more thorough w/ their shop my first go. Ive just been savoring the game replay and so my mind was focused on other stuff, like sneaking in an ||early curve claw||

[bold mango]

It has a tool that gives you ||this game's version of life blood. Uses your red crest slot. Very helpful early game||

[jovial trellis]

||life blood is blue masks, yes?||

[wise nacelle]

||Deadbugs purse, plasmium file sharp dart if you do plasmium skip to get it early, and something else you haven't reached yet||

[jovial trellis]

||i saw a vid where someone got all blue masks, how do i do that?||

[bold mango]

Good news is you dont technically need key for ||purse but you have to get to the upper exit of the bone bottom pit to get it otherwise||

[heady tulip]

Get a ||Crest from Act 2||

[bold mango]

Later in the game. You need some specific conditions. Either a specific crest or a late game map effect you wont swe for a while iirc

[wise nacelle]

||Nah, nah it's legally disctinct lifeblood||

[bold mango]

Earliest you can do it is ||act 2|| with the ||architect|| cresr

[jovial trellis]

||can i get two simple keys or is it only one from the shop?||

[bold mango]

||Mhm. Technically better hwre just different but the game makes some firm comparisons between them||

[bold mango]

There is a 2nd you can get in act 1 but it is difficult and late into the act

[lone spade]

PLEASE someone help me kill this frog boss, please any way, even cheese

[jovial trellis]

||wouldnt fire damage be better than more health?||

[bold mango]

||Later on in act two, a 2nd merchant will sell you another. Then there are 2 simple keys hidden in the world||

[wise nacelle]

||oh, it's 100% lifeblood I just like to make that joke despite TC owning both copyrights||

[jovial trellis]

||also cant I avoid the enemies?||

[bold mango]

Depends on what you need/want. ||this game gets hard so the survivability wont be remiss. But if you just want more damage, then yea. Can't go wrong w/ more damage||

[bold mango]

Doable. Can be tricky but yea you can for most unless there is an arena im forgetting

[lone spade]

please

[wise nacelle]

||wreath of purity||

[bold mango]

Sorry yorha will get on a response

[lone spade]

got it, still the boss sucks ass

[wise nacelle]

||His basic attacks are pretty simple though just wall hug during acid balls pogo on suck and dodge soul attacks||

[vernal zinc]

SPOILERS FOR MERCHANT IN ||THE UNDERWORKS||, are either of these items good?

[wise nacelle]

||You have to get both eventually, for completion||

and they're situational

[bold mango]

Ok so first tip
||if you havent found the hidden bench on the way to big frog boy, get it. It is hidden in the 2nd dart trap pit on the runback||
2nd ||architect crest go brrrr. Either work with a poison build or plasmium build depending on your needs. If you trust you can evade, poison better. If you know you'll get hit, do a plasmium mask build for the regen. Cogflies good. Curveblade good if you hit the sweet spots. Any of your prefered ranfed projectiles. Saw someone say explosives interrupt his inhale. So the pimpilo or the volt vessle bolas work. Other than that stay on your guard, evade, try to avoid damage as best as you are able in the mob fights before. Easiwr said than done but it is worth trying to do. And remember, fight is over once he dies. Stay away from him on death in casw there is an explosion. Left side upwr platform is safe for the swinging trap btw if you stand directly against the wall. Barely misses you w/ hitbox||

[wise nacelle]

||Sawtooth circlet is better thorns of agony and scuttlebrace does a low dodge in the opposite direction||

[lone spade]

got ty a lot for the tips, since im now there and im not using any of the mentionned builds/tools can you come with me in vc and kinda assit me?

[bold mango]

||First is kinda fun but requires you to be close to enemies when your cloak flares. Only does this at start of glide and also one other move|| being ||double jump||
2nd is ||fun and silly but debatable. Changes your down-dash into a floor skuttle that can also run you up walls. Fun and fast but i never use it||

[wise nacelle]

@vernal zinc

[bold mango]

Unabailable to VC at the moment sadly.

[wise nacelle]

||Sawtooth circlet is thorns of agony but better||'

[bold mango]

I was never sny good with it tbh

[wise nacelle]

I don't really use it either

[bold mango]

And honestly found thorns "better" only in so much as i was not good so the free damage was always nice if i didnt use other HK charms

[wise nacelle]

||I'm saying it does retalitory dmg like thorns||

[lone spade]

how many times does he get knocked down?

[bold mango]

But yea for a blue charm ||sawtooth isnt really all that compelling but im sure if youre good w/ positioning it shines. I am not tho lmao. Need my other blue slots anyways||

[bold mango]

Wait seriously?? Woa i missed that

[wise nacelle]

||You didn't know circlet did that?||

[bold mango]

I think 2. Maybe 3. Dont recall. If you havent gotten there he does have ||a phase 2 where he shoots magic waves. Only horizontal iirc so just make sure to evade vertically for both.||

[wise nacelle]

Hmmm, it used to, must've been patched

[bold mango]

No lmao i tried it for like 30 seconds and guess i never got hit using it sgsksjsdhd

[lone spade]

omg omg i killed the fucker, he got knocked down once, i got him knocked out twice before xDDD

[wise nacelle]

Doesn't anymore, just tested it

[bold mango]

Hell yea great job!

[bold mango]

Boooooo thwt would have made it more fun to use. Oh well

[wise nacelle]

||Good ol Bayou Soul master||

[wise nacelle]

Maybe I was just trippin but I felt it did

[lone spade]

does he only give me the ||soul??||

[raven ore]

What ||crest is that||

[wise nacelle]

||seekers soul?||

[lone spade]

||wanderer||

[wise nacelle]

||@lone spade it's also a shortcut to huntress for longclaw and seekers soul is a surprise tool for later||

[next grail]

These || Citadel Enemies|| are making me go wild.
everything just dies in|| Act3 ||

Where are these dudes??

Ill bet I wont find the other || worker bugs either||

[lone spade]

um, ||doesn't huntress quest take too long,i already got to her but her quest seems global||

[wise nacelle]

You just need to use specific tools, it's actually pretty quick

[lone spade]

i don't even know where the materials are from

[wise nacelle]

||You have to beat enemies with specific tools||

[lone spade]

how many tools?

[wise nacelle]

You can literally get them anywhere

[wise nacelle]

3 if you know what you're doing

I can tell you which work

[lone spade]

nah, ty

[wise nacelle]

The name itself is a hint

Of each item

[jovial trellis]

||what do i do with the bone scroll||

[wise nacelle]

useful for later, you'll know when

[jovial trellis]

what is reccomended to ||use key on? life blood needle thing or fire needle||

[wise nacelle]

||wormways, but there's enough keys to open all doors||

[jovial trellis]

||I saw earlier that theres a way to get in without key, or did i misread something?||

||or is there a key in wormways?||

[wise nacelle]

||Technically yes, but it's still largely closed off because you need to hit a lever||

[wise nacelle]

no

||No key in but you can use one to get in||

[jovial trellis]

||can i get the needle from there?||

[wise nacelle]

no

[jovial trellis]

||whats better for moorwing? more damage or more health? I assume the health is temporary||

[wise nacelle]

||it is, but only if you get hit||

[jovial trellis]

it?

[shy jackal]

anyone know where to get this item? just hints would be awesome

[wise nacelle]

||and tbh, learn its patterns, there's no problem with wanting tools to help but it helps in the long run and future playthroughs, which is why I told you where they are but my point still stands||

[wise nacelle]

||Health||

[wise nacelle]

You want area name?

[lone spade]

no hints, is the ||trap of weavers inside weavnest alta or outside?||

[wise nacelle]

||inside||

[hexed scroll]

||Which item I have to buy for update this ? ||

[wise nacelle]

wym

[hexed scroll]

I cannot add more items but I know an object can help

[wise nacelle]

||How do you have egg of flealia but haven't used a memory locket before||

[jovial trellis]

||does the warding bell work like the shield from hk where it cancels your heal?||

[hexed scroll]

||I finished classic ending and I’m at the boss of the true ending. Just I didntremember the name of this object Xd ||

[wise nacelle]

||it saves you from dmg while binding, do it too early you get no heal and no dmg do it just right you get heal and no dmg||

[wise nacelle]

But you've used them before right?

[jovial trellis]

where do i go

[wise nacelle]

for what

[jovial trellis]

||fire needle||

[wise nacelle]

||Left and up, in one of the rooms||

[shy jackal]

naw i ot it now thank you

[wise nacelle]

cool

[wise nacelle]

||Eva gives you a hint||

[hexed scroll]

Yeh for another build

[wise nacelle]

Alright

[dusty lodge]

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[hard scroll]

So going to get ||thread storm|| because I'm stuck on ||sister splinter|| and think it might help. Before I go into the ||battle arena|| is there a bench nearby I can get? Because it's a long run back if not.

||shakra isn't in the area so that bench isn't in commission||

[jovial trellis]

what

[wise nacelle]

I think so yeah

[wise nacelle]

wym

[jovial trellis]

theres no room left and up

[hard scroll]

Where is it? Since the only bench up to ||Thread storm|| is ||halfway home||

[wise nacelle]

||It's not a room left and up, it's left and up in a room||

[wise nacelle]

||I thought you wanted a bench for sister splinter||

||But there is a closer bench to thread storm||

[cinder nexus]

[||act3|| spoilers] is there anything else in this room?

[hard scroll]

||no, I was stuck on her so I was getting thread storm. Shakra isn't there so I don't have hers and the one where the platform is on the other side is too high for me to jump it without claw grab.

Is it worth getting thread storm then before sister splinter or after? Since I'd be benchless||

[tribal walrus]

can you get into ||Act 2 without fighting phantom or last judge through wisp thicket||

[wise nacelle]

Not to my knowledge

[cinder nexus]

thanks!

[raven ore]

No iirc

[wise nacelle]

np

[hard scroll]

Can you get to that without ||claw grip?|| if so I'll look into how 😅

[wise nacelle]

pretty sure you can

[raven ore]

Dont u need ||double jump for that||

[tribal walrus]

um

[solid dragon]

yea u do

[tribal walrus]

ah

[wise nacelle]

I just checked, you can

[jovial trellis]

@wise nacelle cant find it, any more tips?

[hard scroll]

On a Google on my end it says I need to ||beat the gauntlet first|| is that right? If so then that's gonna be a pain for the runback XD

Oh well, time for punishment

[lone spade]

i don't get it, what is ||act 3? i did everything and got this trap thingy, yet the game ended with a different ending?||

[rare coral]

yo if i didnt get the ||curvesickle|| tool in ||act 2|| is there a way to get it ||in act 3||

[jovial trellis]

thanks

[wise nacelle]

||in crawlake building, yes||

[wise nacelle]

||I mean, is it any worse than the thread storm runback? lol||

[hard scroll]

Wait... It gets worse? ||I'm just on the gauntlet room first of all to get thread storm XD

All this because sister splinter is still handing it to me XD||

[slow shard]

Yea I was wondering that too it looks like there’s a lever but I can’t seem to find a video online, nor anyway to get past

[wise nacelle]

You'll get there

[wise nacelle]

probably something for dlc

[cinder nexus]

'parently they said there's nuffin

[jovial trellis]

is there a ||breakable wall|| there?

[wise nacelle]

no

Should be open

[knotty sand]

Basically ||the void is trying to take control of pharloom and ur quest is to save this kingdom||. Just open ur save

[wise nacelle]

either smack it or you're in the wrong room

[jovial trellis]

tried, didnt work

[robust adder]

Is it impossible to get the ||magma bell|| if I used a ||craftmetal for the Mt Fey upgrade||?

[wise nacelle]

you're in the wrong room

[slow shard]

Wonder if the devs have already started working on a new dlc.
I think it’d be really cool if they add a dlc where you get to restore the world after the events of ||act 3||. Obviously, you’d need to get ||herald ending|| (canon if I’m correct) and then you would go to different areas doing things. Like the fix up ||whispering vaults|| you’d have to beat ||tormented trobbio|| as well getting all the ||psalm cylinders|| and stuffs

[jovial trellis]

ohhhh

[tribal walrus]

uh, is there a fast way to get to ||Fleatopia||

[knotty sand]

There are enough craftmetals to get all tools dw

[slow shard]

Nope there’s exactly enough ||craftmetal|| to craft everything if I’m correct

[wise nacelle]

They planned on continuing to make SS and just decided to release it and make their other ideas edlc

[robust adder]

And none of it becomes inaccessible because I'm ||in Act 3||?

[slow shard]

There is a shortcut you can open where you find ||Vog||, but not really a quick way. Maybe ||silk soar|| up ||Bilewater||?

[jovial trellis]

||wait its limited uses???? how do i get more mid-fight||

[wise nacelle]

And DLC from TC/s trackrecord is free updates

[tribal walrus]

||What's vog||

[knotty sand]

What no. The devs did a good job minimizing the things u can't access in ||act3||

[tribal walrus]

I assume i haven't unlocked the shortcut

[knotty sand]

||flea warrior||

[warm hazel]

Best money farm area in ||act 3?||

[slow shard]

Go back up into the room directly above then head left. Should be a breakable wall which leads to that vertical room. Much shorter and safer path

[knotty sand]

||high halls, kill the one guy down right and repeat||

[tribal walrus]

can't figure out how to get back up there...

[wise nacelle]

||why'd you think it'd be unlimited uses, it's a red tool, and you refill it at benches only way to repair tools mid fight is architect crest which you can't get yet, so use it wisely||

[warm hazel]

Is it near the ||ventrica||?

[jovial trellis]

||why wasnt i told?||

[knotty sand]

Ye

[heady tulip]

Woah Dusk was my old username

[wise nacelle]

Told what

[jovial trellis]

||also i didnt know it was a red tool||

[warm hazel]

Lol

[slow shard]

Uhh jump? Pogo? Or maybe go back through the ||bellway||? Like climb back up through the bell way to get back?

Why is ||bellway|| spoilers bruh

[jovial trellis]

||that it is limited, if i was i would've gone the other route||

[knotty sand]

There's a bench next to that. Use it to reset

[tribal walrus]

backtracking is the only way I see, it's too high to reach with ||Double jump||

[slow shard]

Yea i guess but the shortcuts worth it it’s quite a time (and life) save

[tribal walrus]

nvm

|| bellway is too high for me to get up there ||

i don't remember how i got there originally ngl

[wise nacelle]

||Because A. we're trying not to spoil things, B. idk why you thought it would be unlimited for an item that literally boosts your needle dmg, of course something that op would have limited uses||

||Besides, you were the one who wanted to go there I suggsted wormways||

[lone spade]

act ||3 seems like a full fledged act, i can't believe that, is that true?||

[wise nacelle]

Somewhat

[quiet abyss]

do you have to complete ||the great taste of pharloom wish|| to get to ||act 3||?

[wise nacelle]

it's real quick if you know what you're doing but first time around it can take a while

[wise nacelle]

no

||But it does give a pale oil, so it's worth it||

[quiet abyss]

just trying to knockout the reqs for the ||silk and soul wish|| to appear, ||the great taste of pharloom wish|| is the only one I have left so I wanted to make sure it wasnt also required.

[glossy dune]

how the hell do i open ts door 🥀

[wise nacelle]

you're likely missing another requirement then

[wise nacelle]

from the other side

[glossy dune]

Where's the other side

[wise nacelle]

Find it

[glossy dune]

okie

yall me go poo poo

[open rampart]

thanks for letting us know

[tribal walrus]

how long am i stuck with this stupid thing

[true monolith]

not long if u find who u r supposed to hand it to

[tribal walrus]

is it in the area

[true monolith]

the area where u picked it up? not even close

[tribal walrus]

yeah i figured

[icy lake]

||how do i get to this flea||

[true monolith]

||from a completely new area connected from greymoor||

[dusty lodge]

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[glossy dune]

how do me open ts

[winged escarp]

||are the phantom exclusive for act 1??||

[tiny herald]

||how do i get to the top part of the slab?||

[raven ore]

Kill ||trobbio and go right||

[jovial trellis]

||where do you get a second simple key? act 1||

[raven ore]

Get kidnapped

[raven ore]

What

[tiny herald]

||all warden flies are dead||

[icy lake]

||get the key of apostate then||

[tiny herald]

||ii already explored what i could of thhe slabb, i went to look around for warden fliies to get tped to upper part of the slab but they are all dead, am i locked ouut of that part for the rest of the game? ||

[icy lake]

||no, you can get a key to enter the slab after killing a boss||

[tiny herald]

thank god

what boss btw

[icy lake]

||groal the great||

[tiny herald]

||i was so scared i genuinely tought my chance at 100% run would be lost, tysm||

[glossy dune]

I HATE THIS FATTY

[tribal walrus]

what does the second upgradde do

[proper arrow]

more of the stacks

[bleak tide]

How many masks are obtainable before fighting ||Grand Mother Silk|| and what crest/items should i be using?

[willow oxide]

you can get 8 masks and 3 shards before fighting her

[cobalt cape]

||Now how tf am i supposed to beat Last Judge in Steel Soul Mode maaaaaaaan||

[proper arrow]

||does it matter in cogwork core which music pattern is on the top floor?||

[robust adder]

||Do Claw Mirrors work on Lace 3?||

[glossy dune]

i hate him,

[patent thunder]

me too man, me too

[dusty lodge]

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[patent thunder]

yes

[proper arrow]

Ah. ||Aside from matching the patterns, does it matter which one it is instead of keeping the one on the bottom?||

[robust adder]

You match from bottom up

[proper arrow]

Then I somehow switched the bottom up to top to wrong again when I did it.

[lone spade]

act ||3|| is SICK, love the game

[pale hill]

He also killed me with one of his explosive balls and in ||steel soul mode|| but that helped me to improve and finish with a better time

[jovial trellis]

where is ||reaper crest||? I found its area once but i forgot where it is

[sullen hound]

||See the little "door" on the map towards the left? Head over there!||

[fallen hull]

I can’t beat ||lost lace tried every strat architect tool spam…plasmium doping… been at this for days wasting endless shell shards, phase 3 is just stupid , isn’t there anyway to beat this more reliably?||

[modest egret]

any tips for ||choral tower gauntlet, max I went was till 3. IT'S SO ANNOYING. I hope this is not a boss run back||

[lime void]

||after you beat the third stage there is a shortcut||

[modest egret]

OHHHHH
but ||I need to beat it TwT||

[lime void]

After the third stage there is 1 last stage and then the boss

Thankfully the boss is kind of easy

[agile rune]

||flea acheivement is bugged for me||

[lime void]

Wdym?

[modest egret]

still ||this place makes me wanna kms||

[lime void]

Yeah it gave me colo 3 flashbacks

But its not as hard in my opinion

[modest egret]

FR

[modest egret]

ugh fine 😭

[lime void]

My best tip is to get max upgrades

[modest egret]

||I got max needle||

||my friend said ant queen is the hardest, and I did her first. Choral is the 2nd one I'm doing||

[agile rune]

||got all fleas but this guy still has the same dialogue in fleatopia||

[lime void]

You did the ||flea minigames?||

[modest egret]

yeah I did 😭
It was kinda fun actually

[lime void]

||did he give you the charm?||

[modest egret]

||than whatever this is. I HATE IT||

[agile rune]

nope

[lime void]

Yeah your missing some

You haven't gotten all of em

[agile rune]

||missing some but i dont have any markers on the map anymore||

[lime void]

Thankfully if you talk to the big one with a scar he can sell you maps that show you where you can find the last few

[lime void]

You sure?

[agile rune]

yep

[modest egret]

me?

[lime void]

Not you him

[lime void]

Double check the map

Idk what else to tell you

[agile rune]

ok i found it

[modest egret]

i thought there's another ||needle upgrade||
||btw I need 2 more mask shard for another mask + one more spool fragment. I think they'll be the last. Is it inside the area I'm fighting or do I need to explore more||

[lime void]

NO WAy

[steep siren]

Does anyone know of a way to ||save Garmond||?

[buoyant crypt]

Here's a guide that goes over her every ability and how to counter it succesfully:
||https://youtu.be/HKu_RizlwHA||

[modest egret]

anyone?

@lime void btw ||u mentioned colo 3, that big guy (i think the king?) kinda looks like the fool from colo. Just a theory||

[lime void]

Im sorry bud

[lime void]

https://tenor.com/view/game-theory-game-theory-its-just-a-theory-game-theorists-gif-20883020

[steep siren]

Ahh shit.

[vast crown]

is there any way to put a specific key to use tools instead of pressing up key with the tool/skill key. it feels really awkward to use tools for me in combat so i want to set my tools to different keys

[fallen hull]

Thank you very much but I tried once more and beat it, then came back and saw this

😮‍💨