How does the gargantuan gloom even consume void
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unique tangle
near jasper
How does the gargantuan gloom even consume void
Oh yk
unique tangle
How do you consume the all consuming substance
twin dragon
symbiosis idfk
silk dirge
How does the gargantuan gloom even consume void
spicy energy drink
twin dragon
or it's the liquid and not the sharp slop thingies
unique tangle
Maybe it’s stomach is made from everblooms
whole holly
How do you consume the all consuming substance
you consume it from things that contain trace amounts of it, i think Abyss has void particles in air
dire lynx
How do you consume the all consuming substance
team cherry doesnt know the answer to this
"Amazingly, the creature carries the void's black liquid in its stomach, violently spraying it forth if threatened."
near jasper
Lowkey how the fuck did the soul in the absolom mummy never get eaten by the void
unique tangle
team cherry doesnt know the answer to this
"Amazingly, the creature carries th...
Oh so they’re also confused about it too then
unique tangle
I’m glad to hear that
twin dragon
The creature itself also seems to be barely a living thing
unique tangle
Lowkey how the fuck did the soul in the absolom mummy never get eaten by the voi...
The void wasn’t hungry yet
near jasper
The creature itself also seems to be barely a living thing
Relatable
unique tangle
They were saving her as a snack for later
whole holly
she must have been working hard, it is sad she never thought to mix silk weapon with it to make more potent
unique tangle
That’s why the void got upset when we stole the snack from it
whole holly
Lowkey how the fuck did the soul in the absolom mummy never get eaten by the voi...
i wanderer that to, how does her constriction/petrification of her corpse manage it
near jasper
i wanderer that to, how does her constriction/petrification of her corpse manage...
Because fossil taste better than weaver
unique tangle
i wanderer that to, how does her constriction/petrification of her corpse manage...
Literally nothing was stopping the void from pulling her platform down
As seen when the void does pull her platform down
whole holly
Literally nothing was stopping the void from pulling her platform down
yeah but void wasn't able to sense silk/soul in statue, that might be same reason why GMS didn't bind those weavers that we see are constricted
unique tangle
Ig void just isn’t a fan of eating corpses
near jasper
Why does void eat anyways
unique tangle
It does leave a lot of corpses behind
near jasper
Why does void eat anyways
Its not alive
gentle aspen
Why does void eat anyways
void doesn’t eat
near jasper
yeah but void wasn't able to sense silk/soul in statue, that might be same reaso...
The mummies were made so only weaver descendants could get to them
gentle aspen
void doesn’t eat
It consumes
whole holly
i think it would be super interesting if Pharloom and Pharloom's Abyss weren't separated from each other
whole holly
The mummies were made so only weaver descendants could get to them
yeah
near jasper
And She doesn't like widow ig
whole holly
i think it would be super interesting if Pharloom and Pharloom's Abyss weren't s...
void would climb up to GMS and latch on her, if she started hauting pharloom
near jasper
It consumes
Why tho
twin dragon
void would climb up to GMS and latch on her, if she started hauting pharloom
I dont really think the void would just fucking
gentle aspen
god forbid a substance do anything
unique tangle
void would climb up to GMS and latch on her, if she started hauting pharloom
Yknow those strings attached to GMS’s cocoon
twin dragon
start a tsunami upwards
unique tangle
What if we just pulled one of those down
twin dragon
it loves its comfort zone
unique tangle
And stretched it into the abyss
The void would just climb up it and consume her cocoon instead
near jasper
Yknow those strings attached to GMS’s cocoon
They're exposed nerves
whole holly
small amounts of void would latch on silk
unique tangle
Saves us a lot of effort
whole holly
Yknow those strings attached to GMS’s cocoon
yeah
gentle aspen
And stretched it into the abyss
If she didn’t cut it off then she’d probably die
twin dragon
small amounts of void would latch on silk
IF silk reaches the abyss in the first place
whole holly
IF silk reaches the abyss in the first place
i mean it reached deep docks
twin dragon
gms in horror as the dark ever consuming liquid starts climbing up to her
near jasper
Why do the void strings react to the needolin
twin dragon
i mean it reached deep docks
The big pool itself is quite a bit lower though
gentle aspen
Why do the void strings react to the needolin
why wouldn’t it? It’s still the Haunting, but void intensifies it and makes it worse
near jasper
Why would random silk react to the needolin
whole holly
The big pool itself is quite a bit lower though
silk doesn't care about distance, it reaches depths
twin dragon
and yk, its still very far down from deep docks
near jasper
silk doesn't care about distance, it reaches depths
Except bone bottom
twin dragon
needed a whole ass elevator to descend
gentle aspen
Why would random silk react to the needolin
?????
twin dragon
silk doesn't care about distance, it reaches depths
Except it's not true as several regions are unnafected by the haunting
whole holly
needed a whole ass elevator to descend
so what? it is hypothetical situation
twin dragon
or some
gentle aspen
One of the literal functions of the needolin is revealing the strands that haunt pharloom
twin dragon
not that many
frosty gate
Yes but my point is that it's likely that different species vary in lifespan.
Emilitia doesn't look that different from any other bug we've killed, or at the very least she doesn't look to be from another species compared to Ogrim.
So to me, its weird that Emi so much older than Elderbug, while looking relatively young by comparison
narrow horizon
whole holly
Except it's not true as several regions are unnafected by the haunting
Deep Docks is affected, which is what matters most
twin dragon
unless you for some god damn reason
twin dragon
Deep Docks is affected, which is what matters most
The void is MUCH much lower
whole holly
but i don't see it very feasible
good for you i guess
unique tangle
Maybe we don’t even need to string the silk down into the abyss
Wouldn’t just connecting it to bilewater work
twin dragon
you would need to hang haunted pilgrims all over the cave system
for it to spread or smrt
unique tangle
Just have the maggots do their job
gentle aspen
Just have the maggots do their job
honestly no
edgy nebula
Topic?
frosty gate
Yes but my point is that it's likely that different species vary in lifespan.
E...
When I mention common bugs I mean those bugs that look generic. Like yes, Sly is common but he's also a Fly
whole holly
The void is MUCH much lower
not really
narrow horizon
Yes but my point is that it's likely that different species vary in lifespan.
E...
Different species have different life spans and therefore appear different ages at different times.
near jasper
And shi
gentle aspen
I don’t think there’s enough maggot water
whole holly
Just have the maggots do their job
or wisps too
twin dragon
not really
Have you played act 3
unique tangle
I don’t think there’s enough maggot water
You never know until you try
edgy nebula
Alternate ways of killing silk
shoot her slap her stick her in void stew
gentle aspen
You never know until you try
no like
unique tangle
Silk herself really isn’t that big
frosty gate
Different species have different life spans and therefore appear different ages ...
But Emi and Elderbug don't seem to be from different species. Emi doesn't seem special in any way
near jasper
Styx can probably bring enough silkeaters to kill gms
gentle aspen
And even then she can temporarily stave it off
edgy nebula
if you put gms in maggotwater shed just fly out
narrow horizon
But Emi and Elderbug don't seem to be from different species. Emi doesn't seem s...
A bug doesn't need to be special for it to have a longer lifespan than some other bug. Common bugs can live much longer than other common bugs.
gentle aspen
infested water wouldn’t do the same
unique tangle
if you put gms in maggotwater shed just fly out
She’d fly out covered in silk eating maggots
Like Hornet
twin dragon
Chat
narrow horizon
She’d fly out covered in silk eating maggots
which she's get rid of lol
twin dragon
does this mean muckmaggots
edgy nebula
She’d fly out covered in silk eating maggots
and then shed shake them off
whole holly
Have you played act 3
i played way to make it back from abyss to deep docks it isn't that big compared to distance for Deep Docks to Cradle
near jasper
does this mean muckmaggots
Ye
twin dragon
fucking suck soul out of beings
unique tangle
Then just keep throwing maggots at her idk
gentle aspen
and then shed shake them off
god fucking damnit
unique tangle
There’s a lot of maggots
near jasper
So do silkeaters apparently
whole holly
infested water wouldn’t do the same
what about Wisps, would they actively burn her effectively
gentle aspen
You just gave me an idea
twin dragon
what about Wisps, would they actively burn her effectively
Sacrifice 500 kingdoms to have enough
near jasper
what about Wisps, would they actively burn her effectively
Theyre too slow
edgy nebula
god fucking damnit
fuck did i do 😭
twin dragon
i played way to make it back from abyss to deep docks it isn't that big compared...
Ye but theres lava, spikes and shit
whole holly
Theyre too slow
we got to try plasmification instead
narrow horizon
fuck did i do 😭
nothing lol they had an idea
near jasper
Why arent silkeaters haunted
frosty gate
A bug doesn't need to be special for it to have a longer lifespan than some othe...
It's still weird for me that Emi alone is the sole survivor of the entire fall of Hallownest aside from Hornet who barely counts.
gentle aspen
It's still weird for me that Emi alone is the sole survivor of the entire fall o...
she’s not?
near jasper
It's still weird for me that Emi alone is the sole survivor of the entire fall o...
Mister mushroom
edgy nebula
It's still weird for me that Emi alone is the sole survivor of the entire fall o...
mantises
twin dragon
It's still weird for me that Emi alone is the sole survivor of the entire fall o...
LEMM!
MY GUY LEMM!
gentle aspen
she’s not?
Several great knights survived
twin dragon
HOW COULD YOU FORGET
gentle aspen
MY GUY LEMM!
gang are you dumb
unique tangle
Mister mushroom isn’t from hallownest
twin dragon
idfk
gentle aspen
lemm only came to hallownest after the fall
twin dragon
i forgot
whole holly
Ye but theres lava, spikes and shit
do you realize that i am talking about hypothetical situation if Pharloom wasn't separated to Pharloom's Abyss
gentle aspen
He’s a relic seeker
twin dragon
lemm only came to hallownest after the fall
fuck you
frosty gate
lemm only came to hallownest after the fall
Yeah like all
twin dragon
do you realize that i am talking about hypothetical situation if Pharloom wasn't...
I thought you meant, if it wasnt sealed off completely yk
but ye wtv wtv
unique tangle
He’s a relic seeker
Me being a relic seeker in present day New York
near jasper
Not part of Hallownest
What
narrow horizon
It's still weird for me that Emi alone is the sole survivor of the entire fall o...
1 she's not the only one and 2 it isn't that weird lol she stayed isolated the entire time
edgy nebula
Not part of Hallownest
??? They are
gentle aspen
??? They are
they mean the kingdom
whole holly
we have to try parasite, muckmaggots, wisps and plasmification and void on GMS simultaneously
twin dragon
we have to try parasite, muckmaggots, wisps and plasmification and void on GMS s...
Prime gms would clear
unique tangle
we have to try parasite, muckmaggots, wisps and plasmification and void on GMS s...
That or just throw the baby at her
twin dragon
what if prime gms is just gms but she actually claws on you since she's unshackled
narrow horizon
Not part of Hallownest
They're a separate kingdom but they're still smack dab in the middle of Hallownest with surrounding areas and creatures falling to the Infection and the fall of the kingdom
near jasper
part of the territories fs
What Is the difference
edgy nebula
id consider fungal wastes part of the kingdom, pk made a deal with them to put pilgrims way there
near jasper
id consider fungal wastes part of the kingdom, pk made a deal with them to put p...
And fog Canyon has the state university
edgy nebula
if you go cave diving in a cave located into america youre still in america
near jasper
And fog Canyon has the state university
You dont put those things in border towns
twin dragon
the nailmasters survived
frosty gate
id consider fungal wastes part of the kingdom, pk made a deal with them to put p...
That's just for sightseeing lol
edgy nebula
fungal wastes should be considered apart of hallownest
whole holly
we have to try parasite, muckmaggots, wisps and plasmification and void on GMS s...
Wisps would burn roots preventing twisted child, Plasmification would also infect roots that sap energy from GMS, Muckmaggots would eat silk and outcompete the void, Void would put out wisps and eat silk and what's left is a mess
narrow horizon
That's just for sightseeing lol
?? It's literally one of the main entrances to the City of Tears??
twin dragon
Wisps would burn roots preventing twisted child, Plasmification would also infec...
They would js fight eachother for dominion
while gms is watching
whole holly
They would js fight eachother for dominion
exactly, none of them winning is what we want
why didn't shamans think of this, are they stupid?
near jasper
Fungal wastes is part of hallownest
twin dragon
exactly, none of them winning is what we want
You have a really weird mess to clean up
narrow horizon
we have to try parasite, muckmaggots, wisps and plasmification and void on GMS s...
Not necessarily better than trying an individual strategy. Mixing together cleaning agents (DO NOT FUCKING DO THIS) or soaps doesn't give you a "better clean"
near jasper
Not necessarily better than trying an individual strategy. Mixing together clean...
Boring
whole holly
You have a really weird mess to clean up
not really, it will decompose eventually, except the void
twin dragon
6588 Cubic meters of muckmaggot infested waters, 59095 pyres with wispfire, and 49944 plasmium cocoons
twin dragon
not really, it will decompose eventually, except the void
that's still a big fucking problem
whole holly
that's still a big fucking problem
then regulate amount of void, one jar only i guess
near jasper
not really, it will decompose eventually, except the void
Except the fire on the flamable silk
twin dragon
then regulate amount of void, one jar only i guess
Well that aint doin shit fs
midnight reef
That's just for sightseeing lol
its.... its the main door to the City of Tears?
Connects to the main path from Greenpath
gentle aspen
we have to try parasite, muckmaggots, wisps and plasmification and void on GMS s...
all of these would just clash against each other
narrow horizon
adding a bunch of uncontrolled substances together to stop silk isn't efficient when some of those substances will just interfere with other ones and cause the overall reduction of silk to be less efficient
twin dragon
and becomes a hollowcord original character
whole holly
Except the fire on the flamable silk
wisps will be put out by void, plasmium liquid
whole holly
adding a bunch of uncontrolled substances together to stop silk isn't efficient ...
none of them winning and gms losing is what we want though
whole holly
all of these would just clash against each other
that's part of the outcome so it doesn't result in Act 3 or Twisted Child
edgy nebula
this is the stupidest hypothetical ive ever seen come out of this channel
narrow horizon
none of them winning and gms losing is what we want though
Sure, but if they slow eachother down then GMS would be able to outlast them to the point that she could remove them outheal their negative side effects
whole holly
this is the stupidest hypothetical ive ever seen come out of this channel
okay, now throw in Infection, Steel Master Compression too
near jasper
Lace tore off an arm easily
And she never gets it back
near jasper
We can just throw her in the far fields lava
solar gale
this is the stupidest hypothetical ive ever seen come out of this channel
whats going on can u summ it a lil
near jasper
whats going on can u summ it a lil
Alternate ways to kill gms
narrow horizon
and there's no guarantee that one substance won't trump (not the orange) over the other ones and make them entirely ineffective or gone
whole holly
Sure, but if they slow eachother down then GMS would be able to outlast them to ...
i don't think they will slow each other down too much , void is too effective at that, only one that i can see being slowed down are wisps and parasite, which is for better outcome
edgy nebula
whats going on can u summ it a lil
theyre debating what would happen if you threw void, the root baby, lifeblood, and void all at gms at once
narrow horizon
i don't think they will slow each other down too much , void is too effective at...
just throwing a bunch of shit at the same time isn't always better than just a few of them or all of them separately
near jasper
i don't think they will slow each other down too much , void is too effective at...
Stop making plasmified Lost gms in your kitchen sink
whole holly
and there's no guarantee that one substance won't trump (not the orange) over th...
that's why you got to measure the ingredients
edgy nebula
the answer is nothing would happen, gms needs to be submerged in void, i dont think she’d willingly consume plasmium, and the root baby needs her to be weakened in order to consume her
solar gale
theyre debating what would happen if you threw void, the root baby, lifeblood, a...
...the void would just eat up everything what's the point
frosty gate
They're a separate kingdom but they're still smack dab in the middle of Hallowne...
I mean yeah sure but to me is easier to believe that the Mantis Tribe survives as a whole than a single fucking person in the middle of the Capital when an outbreak is happening
twin dragon
Oh yeah lets combine the hard to stop overly destructive substances at a problem that doesn't need allat
near jasper
We can just roast gms over a fire shes fully flamable
edgy nebula
she isnt
near jasper
The parts that matter are
whole holly
we are having fun, you guys it wasn't supposed to be actual argument
whole holly
The parts that matter are
yeah, wisps burn silk
near jasper
Just drown her in laca
twin dragon
Gms would just outsilk any wisp
edgy nebula
there’s text in whiteward that states that silk dregs were retrieved after cremation, and youd need alot of wispfire to kill her
twin dragon
Cheap lighter vs 5909 metric tons of wood
narrow horizon
I mean yeah sure but to me is easier to believe that the Mantis Tribe survives a...
she's entirely cut off from that society. and the infection isn't the same as "person coughs on you and it spreads." It also deals with temptation and the radiance taking over your mind. even if she came into contact with the infection, she already sees herself as perfect and better than everyone and everything so the Radiance wouldn't be able to tempt her with any false dreams.
twin dragon
she's entirely cut off from that society. and the infection isn't the same as "p...
She's also batshit insane
the radiance did NOT want anything to do with her
narrow horizon
She's also batshit insane
fr
narrow horizon
^
near jasper
Colosseum
twin dragon
coincidence? i think not!
near jasper
Salubra
narrow horizon
they are infected
The ones fighting are but not the spectators or other combatants in the rest area
edgy nebula
Mister mushroom
listed two bugs that arent insane
near jasper
They're just vibing too hard for it
edgy nebula
mask maker is tough to defend but what he’s saying has true meaning behind it and makes sense
he’s a philosopher
twin dragon
The ones fighting are but not the spectators or other combatants in the rest are...
Doesn't the wanderer's journal book mention how they're infected but too locked in to listen to radiance
edgy nebula
and mister mushroom is possibly the least insane person you couldve chosen
twin dragon
Or am i making shit up
near jasper
mask maker is tough to defend but what he’s saying has true meaning behind it an...
He has multiple masks he swaps regularly
twin dragon
its been a while
edgy nebula
He has multiple masks he swaps regularly
yeah i swap clothes every day does that make me fit for a straitjacket
narrow horizon
Doesn't the wanderer's journal book mention how they're infected but too locked ...
the one's fighting yeah, but not the spectators or other combatants resting below the arena. or the dude chained up that you purchase access to trials from.
twin dragon
the one's fighting yeah, but not the spectators or other combatants resting belo...
Talking about spectators
they don't seem reactive about their boss being dead
edgy nebula
yeah the colosseum fighters are infected theyre just going about their lives as they were before because that’s what the infected do
narrow horizon
i don't think they are. if there are combatants who aren't infected (ones in the rest area) then i don't see why the spectators would be, especially given they have vocal reactions to events and they care about geo n giving rewards n whatnot (plus none of them have any orange glow)
narrow horizon
they don't seem reactive about their boss being dead
they just don't gaf
edgy nebula
what if the lord fool isnt dead and he’s just havign a really good nap
near jasper
"Whispers of worship" mfs when I shout LOOK AT THE VESSEL FUCKING GO over their brainwashing
narrow horizon
Also with the little fool chained up at the entrance who is definitely not infected i don't see why the spectators would be infected
twin dragon
surprised how the radiance didn't get to him
with smt like "ill make you stronger and worthy again"
edgy nebula
surprised how the radiance didn't get to him
he neg diffs rad
near jasper
with smt like "ill make you stronger and worthy again"
A real fool doesnt do steroids
twin dragon
narrow horizon
surprised how the radiance didn't get to him
they're kinda offset from the rest of society and all of them have all the joy and passion from watching and competing. with him specifically idrk lol
twin dragon
they're kinda offset from the rest of society and all of them have all the joy a...
I mean the fighters are infected
but they just
dont give a fuck ig
narrow horizon
they're kept in cages
twin dragon
they just take the strength and roll with it
narrow horizon
competitors and fighters are different, fighters are infected and kept in cages until they're forced into the arena to battle the competitor
twin dragon
competitors and fighters are different, fighters are infected and kept in cages ...
I know, im talking about the fighters
narrow horizon
yea the competitors are infected
they're kept in cages separate from everyone else lol
twin dragon
arent those fighters?
narrow horizon
they get thrown in and they throw hands
narrow horizon
yea the competitors are infected
oh mb fighters
competitors aren't infected
they're the ones who sign up to challenge the trials
near jasper
How does zote enter godhome if he doesnt dream
narrow horizon
like the knight, tiso, or other non-infected combatants
narrow horizon
How does zote enter godhome if he doesnt dream
GPZ is the manifestation of Bretta's delusions, and Eternal Ordeal is kinda a meme lmao but ig that could be HIS delusions
gentle aspen
that's part of the outcome so it doesn't result in Act 3 or Twisted Child
why are you assuming that gms dies as a result of thus
there’s a very good chance this concoction of bullshit cancels each other out and gms is fine at the end of it
twin dragon
GPZ is the manifestation of Bretta's delusions, and Eternal Ordeal is kinda a me...
zote has a FATHER?
good shit tc
narrow horizon
zote has a FATHER?
yeah he does but i wasn't talking about that lol 😭
gentle aspen
I wish I had a father
whole holly
why are you assuming that gms dies as a result of thus
idk, i just do? she will be overwhelmed in multitude of ways, void and plasmium can't be cancelled out with known and available substances in that situation
near jasper
"Mothers Will always betray you "-zote spoilering silksong
twin dragon
idk, i just do? she will be overwhelmed in multitude of ways, void and plasmium ...
Gms takes a bath in the pale lake
status effects cleared
narrow horizon
idk, i just do? she will be overwhelmed in multitude of ways, void and plasmium ...
She's also a Higher Being with great strength and she could kick ass against this concoction of bullshit lmao
gentle aspen
idk, i just do? she will be overwhelmed in multitude of ways, void and plasmium ...
“Plasmium can’t be cancelled out”
based on what?
“Void can’t be cancelled out”
based on what?
Just because these things don’t have a counterpart doesn’t mean putting everything into a blender means they will work at maximum efficacy or at all
near jasper
Void can't be cancelled out mfs when I just stop touching it
twin dragon
Nika ohw to create the dangerous substance battle royale instead of the concotion he was hoping for
gentle aspen
this amounts to fanon saying that “oh this would kill gms and also lead to no act 3 and nothing else bad happening”
whole holly
She's also a Higher Being with great strength and she could kick ass against thi...
okay? you can't exactly kick ass against roots that saps your strength, or muckmaggots
narrow horizon
okay? you can't exactly kick ass against roots that saps your strength, or muckm...
she can get rid of them
near jasper
okay? you can't exactly kick ass against roots that saps your strength, or muckm...
How is the root meant to get in there
whole holly
“Plasmium can’t be cancelled out”
based on what?
“Void can’t be cancelled out”
b...
void and plasmium can't be cancelled out with known and available substances in that situation, if they can it isn't known to us
twin dragon
On the topic of act 3, act 3 isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be
it certainly could be better
narrow horizon
throwing the cursed bud at her isn't gonna just instantly curse her and make her all fucked up and weaker lmao what
gentle aspen
void and plasmium can't be cancelled out with **known** and **available** substa...
that’s not the point
these things don’t interact so you don’t know what would happen
whole holly
she can get rid of them
how so?
twin dragon
throwing the cursed bud at her isn't gonna just instantly curse her and make her...
This ONLY happens because the bud had a being that could absorb other beings
near jasper
How is the root meant to get in there
It took a full turn of hornets neck to make it able to enter
twin dragon
and she had been weakened enough for it to act
gentle aspen
Asserting that this would work is bullshit
twin dragon
Asserting that this would work is bullshit
This isnt an actual argument
gentle aspen
and the bud just being thrown in there wouldn’t do shit lmao it would just die
near jasper
Parasite mfs when theyre alone (suddenly its an unfair scenario)
twin dragon
what if void and muckmaggots
whole holly
Asserting that this would work is bullshit
and there is nothing wrong with that, this is just hypothetical
twin dragon
does that mean 2x silk drain?
gentle aspen
what if void and muckmaggots
what are the muckmaggots supposed to do
whole holly
what are the muckmaggots supposed to do
they it silk
twin dragon
what are the muckmaggots supposed to do
Read above
gentle aspen
gms would just replenish and cause them to break off
near jasper
what if void and muckmaggots
Thow the void into the wall
gentle aspen
Read above
gang hornet binds and gets rid of them GMS would do the same thing
gentle aspen
then why are you doing it here
gentle aspen
go to another channel
twin dragon
why the fuck not
narrow horizon
fr
twin dragon
gang hornet binds and gets rid of them GMS would do the same thing
How does the gms bind even work
narrow horizon
if you're just discussing random shit atp then do it in #sk-discussion where other people can clown on this idea too
twin dragon
is that her focus?
whole holly
binding, just shaking them out, performing surgery on herself, etc.
plasmium infection lessens power of binding, muckmaggots need to be in constant supply
gentle aspen
you can’t go to a serious channel with a non serious argument and then go “well its not supposed to be serious”
near jasper
What if gms just throws the maggot away
twin dragon
you can’t go to a serious channel with a non serious argument and then go “well ...
This channel is frequently unserious
whole holly
you can’t go to a serious channel with a non serious argument and then go “well ...
"Hollow Knight Silksong lore discussion. A more in-depth discussion channel; no low effort/memes allowed." i don't see serious written anywhere
gentle aspen
"Hollow Knight Silksong lore discussion. A more in-depth discussion channel; no ...
oh my fucking god
twin dragon
gentle aspen
get the hell out of this goddamn channel right now
whole holly
if you're just discussing random shit atp then do it in <#586931790208434203> w...
all you wanted was to clown on idea and not contribute to discussion?
gentle aspen
or I’m muting all of you
narrow horizon
plasmium infection lessens power of binding, muckmaggots need to be in constant ...
Plasmium is not permanent. There's a difference between being fully consumed by it like Plasmified enemies and having some of the substance in your system. There's no plausible way for GMS to become Plasmified unless she actively lets it happen or tries to do that.
whole holly
okay let's stop
twin dragon
Plasmium is not permanent. There's a difference between being fully consumed by ...
I don't think she can at all
near jasper
If you take a lace and replace all her silk then take the original silk and make a new lace
Is that the same lace
whole holly
Is that the same lace
no, obviously, i assume silk stores imprint and contributes to identity, it will just be lace-shaped silk-child
narrow horizon
all you wanted was to clown on idea and not contribute to discussion?
I was actively contributing 😭
now everyone out
leave this space for actual lore
and serious questions and hypotheticals
near jasper
What if we just dunk gms into the lava in pharloom
whole holly
I was actively contributing 😭
thank you SO much for you contribution to this channel, i am so sorry i didn't see it
whole holly
What if we just dunk gms into the lava in pharloom
that is entirely and seriously plausible strategy
but on serious note, issue with my hypothetical that is isn't organized, if defeating GMS strategy was organized it would likely include Snare Setter which is somewhat important part and other other thing i see being part of snare other that void is wisp i guess, Snare uses soul to create wisps i guess, with weakening mechanisms of other things, who knows maybe in that case Muckmaggots or other substances can help
whole holly
now everyone out
bro is minimodding
narrow horizon
bro is minimodding
the conversation ended bro i'm trying to make sure you don't get in trouble. the mod said get out of this channel and stop the stupid debate/hypothetical (in this channel) i was just repeating that cuz you were still yapping
whole holly
We can probably just kill her in a pretty normal way
i don't know, we need serious proof, this is lore channel, where serious things are allowed
whole holly
She can be dismembered
true, we need enough laces to dismember all limbs of GMS
near jasper
Gms was actually smart on how she was trying to get rid of bone bottom ngl
She was actively trying to send silk down into the marrow exit to block it
She kept the bell beast locked away
She sent skull tyrants into bone bottom
whole holly
She was actively trying to send silk down into the marrow exit to block it
Oh yeah true
near jasper
She also presumably got a bug to lock the gate sherma sings at
shy sorrel
What even is the bell eater
round sundial
What even is the bell eater
an evil bell beast that tried to eat the bell beast
shy sorrel
isnt bell beast invincible or sum
foggy stratus
an evil bell beast that tried to eat the bell beast
No, not even close.
shy sorrel
huh
shy sorrel
He's what?
hornet cant even damage bro
eternal timber
What even is the bell eater
The Blackwyrm
shy sorrel
The Blackwyrm
wots that
eternal timber
The Blackwyrm
foggy stratus
||quick someone post a mark giff||
foggy stratus
The Blackwyrm
near jasper
hornet cant even damage bro
Its a really hard shell
But the bell eater can actually properly bite into it
shy sorrel
Oh
foggy stratus
hornet cant even damage bro
She also could use be deliberately not trying to hurt Bellbeast since they’re friends. She was able to hurt Bellbeast during their fight.
shy sorrel
Ohhh
frosty gate
But the bell eater can actually properly bite into it
And to be fair, if it's biting bells it must be biting shells like that
near jasper
bell beast survives running into literal thousands of stacked balls of silver and bronze without even noticing theres not much anyone can do lol
frosty gate
Did I miss any other Retcon in the Doc? I was busy at work and couldn't check if someone wanted to add one
near jasper
Did I miss any other Retcon in the Doc? I was busy at work and couldn't check if...
Can you resend the doc?
frosty gate
Can you resend the doc?
whole holly
Did I miss any other Retcon in the Doc? I was busy at work and couldn't check if...
I think Weaver infertility is retcon
frosty gate
It is, Little Weavers is there
foggy stratus
Aren’t there things like “Weaver in 1/8 part” in a room in the upper most area of the citadel? Which implies not all Weavers are infertile? Am I gong insane?
frosty gate
Aren’t there things like “Weaver in 1/8 part” in a room in the upper most area o...
To be absolutely honest with you
That's a retcon within a retcon like
foggy stratus
Aren’t there things like “Weaver in 1/8 part” in a room in the upper most area o...
It’s says things like “Weaver, in eighth part, last of their line…” and stuff.
frosty gate
Fuck you mean there are more
Like you tell me of the impossibility of Weaver reproduction
Then you tell to me about Weaver descendants
Retconception
foggy stratus
I don’t know what to tell you, it’s right fucking there man. It’s not even in like an update, they added that shit.
Day one.
frosty gate
Yeah, I know
I am unique, you see. My mothers shared the curse of their tribe, to conceive a child is a painful, near impossible task.
But this has also been here DAY ONE
foggy stratus
It’s near impossible, not fully impossible.
frosty gate
To me it makes sense that there are more and they somehow succeeded on creating more Weavers
But Little Weavers are like ? ? ? ? ?
foggy stratus
The only thing that links them to Weavers is their name and appearance. Could just be genetically modified spiders. I wouldn’t put it past the Weavers to experiment on the Deepnest natives.
frosty gate
I'm guessing the Weavers managed to reproduce, but Little Weavers come in quantities
frosty gate
The only thing that links them to Weavers is their name and appearance. Could ju...
It would still be a retcon because nothing in Hallownest indicates such a thing happening
I also don't put it past Weavers to experiment with the Spiders
foggy stratus
Yeah I’m going with the idea that the Weavers experimented on native spiders of Deepnest and turned them into the Little Weavers.
frosty gate
That makes sense to me, but the thing with theorizing over Retcons is that it doesn't stop them from being retcons
Not until we get confirmation
Actually any info on Mask Makers we got from Silksong is a Retcon by Addition
Although I'm inclined to not add it
Since it doesn't really fill any gap
I feel I gotta make that distinction
near jasper
How do silkeaters work
frosty gate
In lore? They make no real sense using their description in game
Unless the eat like a stand of Silk connected to the cocoon and through that they bring the entire cocoon
Imma be real they're less immersive than Jiji and her shit
foggy stratus
I’m just gonna invoke the “It takes place in a noncanon interaction so we can just not pay attention to it” card tbh.
frosty gate
Eh, I guess. I wouldn't even say they take place in a non canon interaction, I'd just say they're lore irrelevant
foggy stratus
Eh, I guess. I wouldn't even say they take place in a non canon interaction, I'd...
(They do tho)
near jasper
The weirdness is still there without that
They eat gods soul
frosty gate
They eat gods soul
Nah that ain't weird
near jasper
They form colonies in habitats that only exist in like 8 places total
frosty gate
(They do tho)
I mean they kinda do, but we cannot ignore the fact that this is something they can do
whole holly
(They do tho)
I mean that’s something you keep asserting while it has no direct confirmation from team cherry
frosty gate
I just don't pay attention to them until I forget they exist
near jasper
The silkeaters have an ability taken from gms herself
foggy stratus
I mean that’s something you keep asserting while it has no direct confirmation f...
Respawning isn’t canon. Just because it is in some games doesn’t mean it’s canon in these games.
frosty gate
Respawning isn’t canon. Just because it is in some games doesn’t mean it’s canon...
Yes, but the events and abilities of those said non canon instances aren't non canon
Fuck I feel like that Boondocks clip
near jasper
How are silkeaters not haunted
foggy stratus
How are silkeaters not haunted
They eat the silk.
frosty gate
How are silkeaters not haunted
Out of all things I'd believe that eating the silk probably keeps them from being haunted
Even if they are, it doesn't matter much
In fact, being Haunted would probably support a theory about them using the Haunting to find our Coccoon or something
near jasper
How would they have time to evolve that
near jasper
The haunting is
frosty gate
Wait you're saying this because of the possible theory I said
foggy stratus
Yes, but the events and abilities of those said non canon instances aren't non c...
Ok, let’s use Jiji summoning TK’s Shade for instance. Jiji says they “peer into you” to search for your regrets. Meaning they need the person present. Meaning if said person is dead they can’t find the regrets. Meaning that Jiji summoning the Shade requires TK to be present to find their Shade. As such, summoning the Shade isn’t canon because it requires something that cannot happen within the canon of the game, that being TK being present after their death.
near jasper
They should scrap sea of sorrow for a styx game
frosty gate
I won't die on this hill, but I wanna follow that line of thought.
If Silkeaters can use the Haunting to find our Coccoon and bring it to us, maybe they didn't evolve but they are just using their innate ability to sense silk to bring it over to us
How Hornet figure that shit out?
Idk
frosty gate
Ok, let’s use Jiji summoning TK’s Shade for instance. Jiji says they “peer into ...
But Jiji's ability to summon a Shade, ergo, Void, isn't non canon
foggy stratus
The only instance of it happening happens, and I understand this may be a little difficult to understand, in a noncanon interaction. I just explained why it isn’t canon and you literally just said “yeah but no”.
frosty gate
The *only* instance of it happening happens, and I understand this may be a litt...
Yeah but no because Sula and Jiji are of the same species and have the same spot as a Steel Servant's companion
Sula can summon a whole Void aberration, meaning that Jiji's ability to summon Void being, in this case a Shade, isn't non canon
foggy stratus
Yeah but no because Sula and Jiji are of the same species and have the same spot...
My guy those things hardly look alike.
frosty gate
The Ability exists, she just doesn't use it in a canon instance
Buigger horns and head, thats about it
The legs are basically the same
foggy stratus
Does Sula have Jiji’s freakish arms?
frosty gate
That she doesn't, but as we've seen in canon bug evolution, things change as they mature
Same Species, Cardi is just old
And the Pontiff, presumably older than Cardi, is even bigger than Cardi
Then there's this bitch
foggy stratus
That she doesn't, but as we've seen in *canon* bug evolution, things change as t...
Ok, but do they grow entirely new limbs, or just longer?
foggy stratus
Then there's this bitch
I don’t trust Scrounge. No respect for their relics.
frosty gate
Ok, but do they grow entirely new limbs, or just longer?
Do you see anything resembling Cardi's body on the first Vaultkeeper?
foggy stratus
The only difference I can see is their weird lower body.
Imo it’s a little more believable to grow longer than to grow all new articulated fuck ass arms.
frosty gate
Imo it’s a little more believable to grow longer than to grow all new articulate...
From a biological stand point, I find it more logical to grow arms than to grow a longass body
frosty gate
That she doesn't, but as we've seen in *canon* bug evolution, things change as t...
Where even are this things Organs???????????
foggy stratus
Where even are this things Organs???????????
Forehead.
frosty gate
Then there's this bitch
And actually, Scrounge is worse because she grew differently
Despite being of either the same or very similar species
She has only two limbs
foggy stratus
Tbh I don’t think Scrounge is the same species as the Vault Keepers. It’s always just been way too different from the others to make sense for me.
(Also why I don’t think Sula and Jiji are the same species, legs looking kinda similar aren’t proof of species relation)
foggy stratus
Grew 4 visible limbs
Son of a fucking bitch. Fine, sure, Sula and Jiji might be the same species(despite the issue of them barely resembling each other beyond l e g s)
frosty gate
Son of a fucking bitch. Fine, sure, Sula and Jiji might be the same species(desp...
And big ass forehead
With antennas
marble oasis
Nah I see it
foggy stratus
And big ass forehead<:feelspkman:639636442821165056>
Tbh Jiji’s fuck ass forehead looks more like a hat and fucking like half of Pharloom and Hallownest have antennas.
Jiji has a pope hat.
frosty gate
Tbf it does look drawn to resemble a Hat but it's likely part of her body
finite wind
I think he may have them under his wings
finite wind
That she doesn't, but as we've seen in *canon* bug evolution, things change as t...
It doesn't make sense for the thing on the left to turn the thing on the right
frosty gate
I think he may have them under his wings
Those aren't wings as far as I can see, they're just part of the attire. Even if they had 2 limbs below those flaps, they still grow 2 legs
frosty gate
It doesn't make sense for the thing on the left to turn the thing on the right
And yet that is how it works
fallow ridge
i was going through the mossbag vid on sk and states that the citadel needed pilgrims to maintain the song but why would the citadel brainwash the skirms into judges to bash down the "unworthy" pilgrims they meet, won't this contradicts the lore on weavers needing more pilgrims on mantain the song as the judges lowers the amount of pilgrims arrive in the citadel
frosty gate
i was going through the mossbag vid on sk and states that the citadel needed pil...
It's likely the Judges were raised by the Conductors and not the Weavers
fallow ridge
ok
frosty gate
Conductors cared about the song but they cared more about being bitches
fallow ridge
the one bug that escaped the grubfather
frosty gate
Good for you
plain gazelle
It's not like every pilgrim that made it into the citadel ended up joining the choir anyway. It's more important for the Citadel to prescreen inductees to get rid of any potential troublemakers than to maximize how many pilgrims get in
lone folio
Buigger horns and head, thats about it
I mean looking at them they are really similar. And if they aren't the exact same species they are defently related, this could be a pharlid situation where there are 2 different but very similar species in the same kingdom.
marble oasis
It's not like every pilgrim that made it into the citadel ended up joining the c...
These days
Back then they were rounding up pilgrims in cages
candid linden
why is the red memory ritual super violent and the shammans die
near jasper
They probably sacrificed themselves for the spell
ionic stump
why is the red memory ritual super violent and the shammans die
It’s heavily implied the spell was that powerful and needed the collective strength of three shamans; and all of their powers and body along with it
candid linden
They probably sacrificed themselves for the spell
why would they
didnt they want the void to happen
near jasper
didnt they want the void to happen
No
near jasper
Who?
near jasper
Hes one of the shamans
candid linden
imagine a shamman boss with all the hk moves
near jasper
Hes one of the shamans
He left to chill with his family
Wait I just noticed
To the pilgrims using weapons would be a sin
But one of the songclave quests is asking for pins
Cool
ionic stump
But one of the songclave quests is asking for pins
The citadel is haunted and there’s no one to hand out punishments
I’m sure no one cares
edgy nebula
sbr in like days
genuinely cant wait
edgy nebula
didnt they want the void to happen
they were planning on sitting back to watch the kingdom crumble but the idea of acquiring the old hearts intrigued them so they went along with the idea of saving pharloom iirc
candid linden
wow
sometimes I feel like gms isnt even conscious
like she is mindless
ahe doesnt have a detailed story like the pale king
edgy nebula
like she is mindless
shes pretty one dimensional personality wise
candid linden
is the world better off without pale beings
edgy nebula
is the world better off without pale beings
some of them are pretty good (pk, white lady) though others seem pretty evil (gms, hornet)
candid linden
some of them are pretty good (pk, white lady) though others seem pretty evil (gm...
hornet became a pale being?
how do you become a pale being
edgy nebula
hornet became a pale being?
shes always been one, being a pale being doesnt always mean youre a higher being
edgy nebula
how do you become a pale being
unsure, palestag is described as a stag touched pale
edgy nebula
is lace one them
dont know
edgy nebula
also why is hornet a bad one
racist, kills innocent people for no reason, aids in destroying multiple environments
elfin comet
this mf hornet wants to kill wvery single fly just cuz they’re kinda gross 🥹
finite wind
People for some reason forget that they captured her
finite wind
some of them are pretty good (pk, white lady) though others seem pretty evil (gm...
What's bro talking about
finite wind
racist, kills innocent people for no reason, aids in destroying multiple environ...
What innocent person did hornet kill
dire lynx
People for some reason forget that they captured her
the journal entries are the same even if the flies DONT capture her
she just wants to wipe out an entire species for no reason pretty much
finite wind
I don't think the journal entries make much sense if she's not captured
finite wind
she just wants to wipe out an entire species for no reason pretty much
No reason?
They are straight up evil even if you don't count that they captured her
Like they just jail random bugs because why not
They literally attack hornet on sight
dire lynx
do you see her calling for the extinction of any other haunted species?
finite wind
do you see her calling for the extinction of any other haunted species?
Is that relevant? She kills every enemy that attacks her, so I'd say that if every ant in the world for example attacked hornet (which they do) she would kill them all (which she can do and does if you let her)
Even if she doesn't mention in the few paragraphs of the journal entries of a whole species that she wants their extinction, she pretty much would kill anything if they attacked her
dire lynx
Is that relevant? She kills every enemy that attacks her, so I'd say that if eve...
The less these gruesome bugs breed, the better.
Foul creatures birthed into servitude. Their plight elicits no sympathy from me.
With this one vanquished, I hope to have sped the end for that jail and its distasteful order.
finite wind
And I think in cannon they do capture her
dire lynx
The less these gruesome bugs breed, the better.
Foul creatures birthed into ser...
there is nothing like this for any other hostile creature, its beyond unreasonable
near jasper
And I think in cannon they do capture her
How
finite wind
The less these gruesome bugs breed, the better.
Foul creatures birthed into ser...
Literally the last phrase disproves your whole point
She wants to end the jail and the slab order
There you go
dire lynx
its the entry for the broodmother, the "order" is the species that is wardenflies
finite wind
How
It's more of a feeling than anything, it's got too much going on for it not being, it has an OG soundtrack for some special sequence, a special hornet outfit, and makes the journal entries make more sense
finite wind
its the entry for the broodmother, the "order" is the species that is wardenflie...
I think with order it refers to the whole prision thing
near jasper
It's more of a feeling than anything, it's got too much going on for it not bein...
I dont we can consider a sequence that can be ignored something that happens in the Canon timeline
finite wind
I think with order it refers to the whole prision thing
Also, if hornet really hated the flies so much, why didn't she kill the baby fly
dire lynx
I think with order it refers to the whole prision thing
it talks about the gaol sepereatley to the "order"
near jasper
Also, if hornet really hated the flies so much, why didn't she kill the baby fly
Because they explode
And the place they're on is already unstable slimey vomit
dire lynx
someone can call for and want genocide, but not act on it, doesnt make them a better person
it doesnt change the fact that she says they should stop breeding
or that she doesnt feel bad for the fact they are literally enslaved
dire lynx
you arent a real person
finite wind
Ok bud
near jasper
She also just rips out the eyeball of the broodmother to turn in
Like theres easier things to take right?
unique tangle
Like theres easier things to take right?
turn in the baby
near jasper
That works
finite wind
But what if the baby exploded
near jasper
Skill issue
Hornet rips out a dead persons eyeball to give to songclave when they asked her to calm the cries from something in the slab
unique tangle
But what if the baby exploded
let them know that it can be used as a hand grenade when in danger
near jasper
Hornet rips out a dead persons eyeball to give to songclave when they asked her ...
"theres a horrible whail coming from the slab" "I killed it heres the womans eyeball"
unique tangle
"theres a horrible whail coming from the slab" "I killed it heres the womans eye...
what else was she gonna do? take the very removable hat like a sane person?
finite wind
The hat could be from anyone
But the eye, it's only hers
It's also an intimidation tactic
To show she doesn't mess around
near jasper
They didnt even ask for proof she killed it
dire lynx
nobody knows who the broodmother is, its as meaningful as the hat
unique tangle
the eyeball could be anyone's too
finite wind
They didnt even ask for proof she killed it
That's what makes it even more intimidating
finite wind
the eyeball could be anyone's too
Not really
unique tangle
what if i kill grindle and submit his eyeball in to complete the quest
finite wind
Who has an eye that big
unique tangle
they wouldnt know a thing
near jasper
They didnt even ask for proof she killed it
She just assumed she had to kill a random person for being in the slab
near jasper
Who has an eye that big
Greyroot
finite wind
The being with a black eye?
near jasper
Loddie
unique tangle
groal
finite wind
Who Tf is loddie
near jasper
Who Tf is loddie
The ladybug
unique tangle
checkmate
finite wind
The ladybug
Bruh
near jasper
The being with a black eye?
Do you think people know fly anatomy
near jasper
There are tons of flies in pharloom
Like 3 that go out Once to capture 4 people a mile away from tbe citadel
finite wind
That's only the ones we see
But there are other captured bugs in the slab
So more of them had to go out
finite wind
Like 3 that go out Once to capture 4 people a mile away from tbe citadel
Also, we see other dead flies in putrified ducts and mount fay
near jasper
Also, we see other dead flies in putrified ducts and mount fay
One in ducts
And some in the area directly beside their home
finite wind
One in ducts
The flies did not randomly spawn in the right most areas whilst being in one of the left most areas you know
They had to go there
near jasper
If someone gets to songclave they should never have met a fly in the first place
near jasper
The flies did not randomly spawn in the right most areas whilst being in one of ...
Almost like the area directly near stiltkin territory had criminals by citadel standards
finite wind
If someone gets to songclave they should never have met a fly in the first place
Yeah, not like there are more than 15 bugs in there
finite wind
Almost like the area directly near stiltkin territory had criminals by citadel s...
They are everywhere
near jasper
Yeah, not like there are more than 15 bugs in there
?
We see like 4 outside the slab
finite wind
?
You say that enclave bugs didn't see flies as an argument that there couldn't be many flies out there, while there are very few bugs in enclave
finite wind
We see like 4 outside the slab
Yeah, WE see 4
Again, they flies have to have crossed multiple areas to get where they sre
And there are multiple captured bugs
Heck, even grindle gets captured
near jasper
You say that enclave bugs didn't see flies as an argument that there couldn't be...
As an argument the songclave bugs shouldnt know the biology of the flies
finite wind
Heck, even grindle gets captured
So that's a fly we didn't know was there that captured him
unique tangle
yknow why were the songclave bugs even so bothered by broodmother in the first place
i dont think she was hurting nobody like skull tyrant or beastfly
they just heard a mother in grief and said "go kill her"
dire lynx
Heck, even grindle gets captured
grindle wasnt captured, hes looting
near jasper
they just heard a mother in grief and said "go kill her"
They didnt tell us to kill her
"Horrible cries have been heard from that prison beside the Citadel. What profanities must be happening within to cause such an awful sound?" Is everything they wrote
unique tangle
They didnt tell us to kill her
well its in the description ig
near jasper
well its in the description ig
We cant know they wrote that
unique tangle
they put it in the fine print
unique tangle
grindle wasnt captured, hes looting
ah yes grindle seen here famously not being captured
marble oasis
well its in the description ig
Hornet slimed out GP for a heart she didn’t need do you really think she wouldn’t take the barest excuse to kill the mother of all flies
unique tangle
so murder was just fully hornet's decision then
near jasper
Yeah
The wish was just kinda asking if they could shut the thing in the slab up so people could explore quietly
unique tangle
but wait no the quest is listed as a grand hunt quest
if they didnt want hornet to kill broodmother then why not put it as a wayfarer
they were egging her on
near jasper
but wait no the quest is listed as a grand hunt quest
We dont know if it being listed like that is canon
marble oasis
“Worry not dear residents I shall make sure these profanities cease”
“By calming the beast down and resolving the cause of its pain and misery?”
“…Yes”
dire lynx
ah yes grindle seen here famously not being captured
thats not in the slab you doofus
unique tangle
thats not in the slab you doofus
and the original message didnt specify the slab
dire lynx
we were talking about warden flies, slab is implied
unique tangle
so this prison which is designed in the same style as the slab
marble oasis
Who put him in there if not for the Wardenflies
marble oasis
What other judicial body is there (not counting craws)
near jasper
We dont know if it being listed like that is canon
Songclave probably wasnt asking a Hunt wish to get fresh sharp pins
finite wind
“Worry not dear residents I shall make sure these profanities cease”
“By calming...
Not like the broodmother wanted to talk at all
unique tangle
is that what youre saying
near jasper
What other judicial body is there (not counting craws)
Michael
finite wind
Or any of the flies for the matter
finite wind
What other judicial body is there (not counting craws)
The judges?
marble oasis
Not like the broodmother wanted to talk at all
Because she’s a filthy fly incapable of higher thought
We HAD to kill her
We just had to
finite wind
Because she’s a filthy fly incapable of higher thought
Idk, her son is very capable of just talking
Why wouldn't she
marble oasis
The judges?
So… the citadel
marble oasis
Idk, her son is very capable of just talking
SON??
finite wind
Yes
unique tangle
what other group of the citadel which works as the wardens and jailers and happen to also explicitly be shown to travel accross the kingdom would capture grindle and throw him in that jail cell also operated and owned by the citadel
near jasper
What do you think songclave did with the eyeball hornet stole from the broodmother
dire lynx
there is literally no evidence of flies in the random marrow prison
finite wind
What do you think songclave did with the eyeball hornet stole from the broodmoth...
Soup
marble oasis
what other group of the citadel which works as the wardens and jailers and happe...
Uhh envoys
unique tangle
Uhh envoys
ah yeah the little prison which the envoys run as a hobby
how could i not realize
marble oasis
Well they capture people and travel outside of the citadel
Don’t shoot the messenger
unique tangle
they seem to be moreso sent on out-of-pharloom weaver capture missions only, we dont really see them roaming within pharloom looking for criminals
finite wind
Btw killing green prince is a good thing
unique tangle
its definitely the flies
unique tangle
MEBI thinks it’s craws though
what is he smoking
finite wind
His depressed ass would have died anyways and verdania will grow again from his dead body
unique tangle
the citadel branded and built jail... run by some farmer's pests?
finite wind
Also killing him lets you spare karmelita
marble oasis
what is he smoking
Something something pins in the cell something court of craws something something craw summons implies they’re all over pharloom
unique tangle
does he know the craw summons can only appear in the few areas adjacent to greymoor
(the marrow is not one such area)
unique tangle
it is true, the summons can only appear in bellhart, wisp thicket, far fields, and sinners road
marble oasis
But they seem to have been following Hornet’s whole adventure
unique tangle
and hunters march i think
marble oasis
They know she brought the dark
marble oasis
and hunters march i think
Far fields
unique tangle
i said far fields
marble oasis
Bilewater too though which is crazy
unique tangle
ah
unique tangle
But they seem to have been following Hornet’s whole adventure
i think them knowing hornet caused the crumbling could just be chalked to them being smart and figuring it out, i mean its not really like we ever see them beyond greymoor
but even if they do have craws following hornet sneakily throughout her journey then thats just craws following her
marble oasis
what is he smoking
anyway you know his posts get very speculative
unique tangle
idk if that means anything towards the craws running a punitive system that rivals the citadel's
marble oasis
a fair few of them i’m like tc who never thought about any of that
unique tangle
anyway you know his posts get very speculative
ye i know, but most of his detail observations are great
even if the conclusions are kinda
out there
this one's kinda crazy even in comparison i think
marble oasis
The rationale is sinners road is also craws because of the emblem
which THAT idk about
the sinners road emblem is different enough to the craw juror headpieces
unique tangle
yeah ig if we ignore that the emblem is only kinda loosely similar
edgy nebula
What innocent person did hornet kill
green prince
unique tangle
i do agree the sinner's road emblem is unexplained tho
we dont rlly see it anywhere else
but
marble oasis
green prince
That grasshopper is guilty
edgy nebula
What's bro talking about
the truth
unique tangle
i dont think its the craws lol
edgy nebula
That grasshopper is guilty
youve no proof
edgy nebula
i do agree the sinner's road emblem is unexplained tho
sinners road emblem?
marble oasis
youve no proof
I don’t need proof
Hang that grasshopper now
I’ve got the rope right here
edgy nebula
I don’t need proof
youre a terrible judge 💔
edgy nebula
this sun disc thing
pretty sure it's some type of holy emblem in universe. fourth chorus, cogwork dancers, and crawfather have it on their noggin
unique tangle
the citadel has their holy symbol
edgy nebula
actually idk about crawfather i think his is different
unique tangle
this is not rlly it
edgy nebula
!wiki cogwork dancers
wispy orchid
sorry
oak meadowBOT
edgy nebula
looks close enough
oak meadowBOT
edgy nebula
whats this channel for
epic lore discussion
unique tangle
honestly if i had to give an alternative i think this symbol is some remnant of the reaper religion
marble oasis
looks close enough
Ehh this is why I think it’s just a generic crown emblem
unique tangle
it kinda resembles these spikey wheels a bit
marble oasis
Radiance has it
unique tangle
cogwork defenders dont have it
sweet thunder
it kinda resembles these spikey wheels a bit
Silksong players when a random spikey thing that vaguely resembles another vaguely spikey thing:
edgy nebula
in that case its probably just some ambiguous citadel thinv
wispy orchid
Cogwork defenders have it and the others don’t
wait who doesnt have it
?
except for the other guards
i thought they were the only ones
but arent they canonically weaker anyways
unique tangle
Radiance has it
ok but no way this is about radiance
in her case its supposed to invoke sun imagery
why would the rising/setting sun be the symbol of sinner's road
wispy orchid
hi @worn sigil
hows ur day
lets talk
about
lore
shall we
what u think about grimms canonic power
does he solo
goku
marble oasis
cogwork defenders dont have it
Some do
wispy orchid
or not
marble oasis
If you will please look to the right
worn sigil
i love it when silksong defeats the guy from that one game and gets saved by hollow knight
unique tangle
the ones that are active dont
wispy orchid
i love it when silksong defeats the guy from that one game and gets saved by hol...
wait
isnt that
like
the alternative
ending
unique tangle
i honestly feel like its a cut design choice
unique tangle
also loving this response time rn
worn sigil
??????
worn sigil
wispy orchid
cuz
worn sigil
brochacho
worn sigil
its rhe ending for act 3
marble oasis
dude can you please fuck off
marble oasis
i honestly feel like its a cut design choice
I guess it was easy to make the switch for the enemy proper because then that just applies to all of them
best image i could find of the ones near the map location
wispy orchid
I guess it was easy to make the switch for the enemy proper because then that ju...
yo
thats
tuff
marble oasis
marble oasis
map
worn sigil
why cant this kid type everything in one sentence
marble oasis
oh yeah lol
graceful grail
Question, What causes Horn Growth??
unique tangle
the enemies dont, i think its just a cut design choice by TC and they just forgot to update some of the sprites
marble oasis
maybe they have better designations that we don’t get to see
unique tangle
i think the spikey crowns in the cogwork automatons case is just a design choice and not a significant religious symbol
marble oasis
Question, What causes Horn Growth??
Power is stored in the horns I guess
graceful grail
Power is stored in the horns I guess
Maybe it focuses better??
unique tangle
like the spines and the crawlers have spiked elements too
midnight zinc
Question, What causes Horn Growth??
Flintstones chewable vitamin gummies
unique tangle
just in different arrangements
there's also this guy
with the crown but no spines
marble oasis
That’s a different guy
marble oasis
Those are clearly antennae to get a wifi signal for the confessional
unique tangle
why didnt they just connect it to ethernet
the confessional is right there
why go for wireless
unique tangle
no that sounds ridiculous
how else would each treasured underworker get their own personalized message then
we wouldnt want to be scamming our workers
marble oasis
how else would each treasured underworker get their own personalized message the...
You just skip to the appropriate track for each worker
unique tangle
a salary is still a salary
marble oasis
What did bro say
unique tangle
i would love to know too
ionic stump
this sun disc thing
I think it’s just a design
As for the roachkeepers having one on their back, probably to prevent muckroaches from ambushing them
Like armour
But you do bring up a good theory
unique tangle
I think it’s just a design
Yeah that’s possible
It feels too significant to be just something random given that it’s the front gate design
But we don’t really have much to go off of
So it could be just for the looks
ionic stump
Roach tenders: yeah make a cool fuckin gate and put it on the backs of the big dudes
marble oasis
I bet you the catchers pinned it on the keepers while they were sleeping and thought it was hilarious
austere lake
Who wants to hear my interpretation of Silksong’s true ending?
lucid cairn
🦗
dire lynx
Why does stynx die in steel soul?
styx gets murdered by skynx, who then wears his mask as his own
dire lynx
not a nosk
marble oasis
some kinda
dire lynx
you could say some type of imposter, calling it a nosk implies a connection that has basically nothing supporting it
craggy smelt
upside-down face
mimics shit
classic Nosk moves
we don't really know what an uninfected Nosk would get up to
they could be smart
-ish
dire lynx
nosk uses magic, it doesnt rip the face off of bugs
the only thing in common is "upside down mask"
marble oasis
you could say some type of imposter, calling it a nosk implies a connection that...
Some type of what?
marble oasis
they could be smart
Head empty
craggy smelt
Head empty
knees weak, arms heavy
I did always think it was interesting that Nosk gave no dreamnail dialogue beyond a '...'
there was clearly something going on with them, being able to shapeshift and search the hearts and minds of others for memories
yet, if they had a mental state, it seems like it was one different enough from other bugs that the dreamnail doesn't make any sense of it
dire lynx
Some type of what?
among us
wild oracle
nosk uses magic, it doesnt rip the face off of bugs
How do you know that?
dire lynx
How do you know that?
first of all, how would nosk be able to get the knights mask if not for magic
secondly
"In the deepest darkness, there are beasts who wear faces stolen from your memories and pluck at the strings in your heart. Know yourself, and stay strong."
-nosk journal entry
wild oracle
first of all, how would nosk be able to get the knights mask if not for magic
Its pretty dark in deepnest
But this makes sense
soft whale
I love citadelle lore
wet walrus
No. Technically some kind of spider.
She is like half spider half whatever tf pale king is.
Biologically she is vloser to Hornets
wet walrus
1- Hornets aren't bees
2- They use needles to attack
3- They are more powerful than the average bee
4- They are viciously fast
Also Vespa could be a reference to the wasp family Hornets are part of in real world
Does that mean Vespa named Hornet in the game?
dull moss
Sure, but none of this has an impact on her biology
wet walrus
Sure, but none of this has an impact on her biology
I know
dull moss
Biologically she is vloser to Hornets
Then why say this?
wet walrus
Then why say this?
They share a lot in common
dull moss
Not biologically
foggy stratus
They share a lot in common
Yes, because Hornets are known for their silk usage.
wet walrus
Yes, because Hornets are known for their silk usage.
Oh yeah that too
wet walrus
Not biologically
I am drawing parallels to real world hornets
Not meant to be the exact similar
dull moss
Sorry, but do you know what biological means?
Hornet may indeed share many similarities with hornets, but this has no bearing on her heritage
wet walrus
Sorry, but do you know what biological means?
Ok I made a mistake
pulsar oyster
lore
bold night
What is the everbloom because it’s super different between the games
candid linden
its in hk?
bold night
Ye it’s named the delicate flower in hk
candid linden
oh
wet walrus
Ye it’s named the delicate flower in hk
They are quite different
Delicate flower only repels the void after it consumes the seeker
Everbloom serves as a protection from the void
Everbloom also doesn't break after getting hit once
cunning wigeon
Everbloom also doesn't break after getting hit once
I personally put that up to the fact that the delicate flowers were brought from really far away, so they’d probably been dead for awhile. The one we get from the memory is the prime version of it
frosty gate
They are quite different
As far as we know, they're the same flower
These differences might as well be just another Retcon.
It would be weird to make these nigh identical flowers and not be the same one
heavy gyro
I personally put that up to the fact that the delicate flowers were brought from...
You can get fresh delicate flowers from the grave