#Please give us better servers, or at the very least for the duration of Master Plan Events

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warm dirge
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These past few weeks there has been increasing number of channels that change into "Busy" status, and Channel 1 is "Full" almost every evening.

Whenever several of these channels start getting congested, the quality of gameplay (latency) starts to drop exponentially, with increased delays in skill loading/execution times and more frequent rubberbanding. Not to mention various glitches that may occur with time-sensitive mechanics, especially in late-stage content where missing those timings can cost you the entire run.

And you know what Master Plan is like; there's a lot of returning players, which means it's only going to get worse for us, the players, as more channels reach these full/busy statuses for longer periods of time every day.

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scarlet night
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Seconded. Some of these channels are legit unplayable. Constantly rubberbanding all over the place and just makes the game a chore to play. We're about to get a new talent too, which means even more returning players.

solemn parrot
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We should celebrate the gaming having more players, but its hard due to the servers not being able to handle the influx.... I support this as well.

mossy lake
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100%!!!
I may not experience lag to this extent most of the time, but I understand the need for stronger servers!

hybrid isle
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Let's get these server upgrades BEFORE Eternity, that would be great! Sayonara to rubberbanding and latency issues, hello buttery smooth 60fps 😄

agile root
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Rubberbanding/latency =/= fps, you can do both in 500fps

That being said, I'm apprehensive to even log in for scythe stuff with lag like this solely due it becoming a slog to move around.

molten edge
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I don’t even like playing in the evening now cuz of the lag someone tag arcie and elebon 😂 I’m surprised nobody’s given any notice about this

graceful spindle
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Facts actually, when I'm playing between like, 6 pm est and 10 pm est I feel like my character's moving through molasses

I used to like, pick my channel based on where my friends hang out but nowadays I pick the channel that I don't rubberband out of existence and disconnect on.

grizzled perch
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I support this issue! Many of my inputs are missed due to so much traffic in game now

meager spade
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The rubberbanding has gotten so bad I'm starting to believe the millitean is just a bouncy ball at this point

hybrid isle
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But really this is actually a really good point/argument to be made, returning players or brand new players, think of how many gamers leave something if it's not buttery smooth 60fps+, heck a lot complain about 30fps switch games and just won't play 30fps capped games PERIOD. So this is a real case here if we wanna ever keep returners or new players, us players who stick around are just used to it and have accepted it, but we can't accept it forever until Eternity (which obviously Eternity would fix all of this) we must make it to Eternity first though, so we need server issues addressed. Looks like we have the mabi stamps so this is going to KR DEVS, hopefully quick response.

valid lance
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Yeah I had a thread about this as well. #1312647564092375082 message They totally downgraded us. GIVE US BACK ARE CAPACITY! I was soloing kraken, and every time I tried to hit the switch, I had the same experience. I thought it was my computer or the internet, but that's impossible. I just recently upgraded my internet to 1gb. My computer is well within operating parameters for Mabinogi. I demand transparency on these issues. This is going to drive away all the players that came back and the new ones. https://i.imgur.com/bMIUf5v.png They told me to post a thread, I posted thread. Maybe more threads are needed. 😐

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golden fiber
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I had a massive delay yesterday in ch 4 which cost our team a wipe in Crom due to skill loading delay and pet summon delays too. I use fusion bolt and this hampers my play style.

arctic flume
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At the very least, I really think it'd help the game to increase the number of channels available

graceful spindle
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Today it got so bad that I had to take a break. It's only getting worse. I've been rubberbanding like crazy. Missed out on like 20 minutes of my 1 hour boosting items on pure lag and rubberbanding back into place 40 consecutive times

hybrid isle
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That's crazy 😮 was afraid this would happen one day. Really hope this is answered soon and we can all have a smooth ride, because TYPICALLY, with maintenance, the servers are FRESH, but it hasn't even been a day since maintenance and we are getting all these issues...

gaunt dawn
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We've been ignored, almost gaslit on very important issues this year, and it's almost understandable because our branch doesn't have that much pull. I get it.

This is a different issue altogether though, I tried to do revived illusion a moment ago and using skills was a crap-shoot if anything worked, and if it did it was almost never where it was supposed to. HUGE delay on skill loading, extra equip slots having extra delay on top of that the game feels horrible to play. I'm fearing it's only going to continue getting worse.

earnest sun
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How about practicing a little patience? Its not like they are unaware... Things take time so just wait

hybrid isle
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Agreed ^ 10 mabi symbols on this thread (most I've ever seen lol) so clearly this thread is major and taken seriously. Can only hope something is done soon~ it would only benefit them honestly, new players will wanna stay, returning players too.

gaunt dawn
earnest sun
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It literally hasnt even been 2 months since this problem has been happening and there have been only 2 threads about it that arent even 2 weeks old. again just practice a little patience jeez

next stag
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Well, it honestly might not even be the servers simply because a good number of Arcana Skills actually force rubberbanding due to bugs:

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Once I realized my Pulse was the source of my rubberbanding I cut rubberbanding down tremendously.

scarlet night
gaunt dawn
shy finch
inner juniper
earnest sun
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games will always have bugs my guy all im saying is theres no need to be so dramatic saying things like "we're being ignored and gaslit" when we clearly arent, the CMs make sure issues like these are known all thats left to do is be patient and wait

shy finch
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you havn't played mabi for long have you

earnest sun
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since 2010 but maybe thats why it doesnt bother me as much, ive been forged by the jank 😭

inner juniper
# earnest sun games will always have bugs my guy all im saying is theres no need to be so dram...

a common order of things for feedback is we've forwarded your question and got the answer but we're not allowed to tell you the answer even if getting the answer to a question was the whole point

so we're not allowed to know if we're just screaming into the void or not

also almost 100% of the feedback that gets put into the game was stuff that was already approved in KR (publicly) before the suggestion even showed up here and ends up here under dubious circumstances

and the CM's being like: see we're really listening!

despite that suggestion having nothing to do with why it was done

gaunt dawn
# earnest sun games will always have bugs my guy all im saying is theres no need to be so dram...

there's a difference between dungeons having weird lighting if you log out in the lobby, and the servers being so unstable it messes up content runs. Last night during glenn it was so bizarre how things behaved because it was laggy, invisible mechanics aren't great.

The other reason we have to be volatile as players is there was a bug to reset crom that existed for 3 years before anything was done about it, if you were part of the circle that knew how to do it, you had 3 years of access to something that's supposed to be limited. The glenn reset was known about before we even got glenn yet it persisted in NA anyway until it got public and exploded. I think as a playerbase we've been told unless things get blown up as much as possible nothing is going to be done.

brisk umbra
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The current server lag is getting to intolerable levels. Hopefully we get a response that even remotely addresses this

agile root
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It took nearly 5 seconds to swap to my chain to use death mark in a feth run today, just kept saying "you need a chain to use this skill" while i have auto conversion on. I play at 40 ping

meager spade
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We did glenn elite and grandma had long periods of just standing there doing nothing... Even the mob server is lagging!

tawny rain
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Big agree, grandma did a lot of standing around today. Weapon conversion to other slots is also not working very well atm 😅

molten edge
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Quick it’s time to run VHM

wind inlet
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+1'ing to this

The game isn't the same game with these performance issues due to the extra traffic.
Don't know if there's any truth to it, but it does feel like the servers were decreased recently, which was right around the time of these issues starting.

I've noticed there's been a lot of rubber-banding, pet summon/de-summoning lag, skill use delays and lag and overall just in general slowness due to this.

We definitely need better servers to alleviate these issues, it's hard to do a number of thing when it get busy and its consistently been busy at the later hours of the weekday on all channels for a good couple of weeks now. Weekends produce said results much easier, such as 3PM EST at the least.

meager spade
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pls explain how is ch5 full and all ch are busy... it aint adding up

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valid lance
bitter temple
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"That's a ridiculously large amount of Phase members on Ch5 to make it full"

inner juniper
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pippa has been getting 30k views for each of her many mabi streams

while YouTube algorithm tries to push for half of viewership to be new people each video

over so many streams that is probably more attention than mabinogi has had in its history in NA

the servers were not prepared

pippa's streams are eclipsing the combined totals of sponsored streams even without being sponsored

valid lance
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I know that's contributing to the problem but I do not believe it's the primary source of it.

scarlet night
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Gonna have to agree with Crimson that this likely is just servers being downgraded and not anything else. If we had an influx of new players the Steam Charts for Mabinogi would have a substantial increase (even though it isn't the primary means of logging in for most) and Smoldering Threads would be worth more than like 20k lol

mellow mango
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what if it's all memory leak seyalorna

gaunt dawn
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mabi has seen an increase in players no doubt to the extra exposure and people going on holidays, but the game isn't seeing a player spike that's abnormal for mplan + new talent/arcana, and that peak of seasonal/returning players is already starting to taper off, again which is normal.

Steam charts isn't an indicator of the whole playerbase, but if it's a percent of the playerbase a similar percent increase on all platforms is logical. It's not like the playerbase suddenly tripled in size to cause all channels to be busy all the time, with several being full during peak.

brisk umbra
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Surely today, after the maintenance, Nexon NA will at least address/mention the server lag

molten edge
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Been going on for over a month so I doubt it. I’ll double what raeuss said 👇👇

gaunt dawn
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I'll do a 100m giveaway if they address it

valid lance
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Let's gooooooo!

molten edge
gaunt dawn
valid lance
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Boy he's pretty sure Nexon won't make an announcement or news post about it. Ok. Alright. The pool is open! smuglapras

How many months yall betting on?

gaunt dawn
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I've offered a ton of bets in this server, and none have actually matched me, and the ones that did bet something weaseled out.

I'd take bets on this, but I don't trust anyone to actually follow through on them so I'm standing by my 100m giveaway and it'll end arbitrarily

warm dirge
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As far as I can tell, everything's still the same, people already struggling to get onto channel 1 and it's only the early afternoons for America, so you get to keep that 100m of yours for today, sir....

gaunt dawn
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The server being better was also because it restarted but the lag is pretty much back in full force

valid lance
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Yeah the accumulation effect happens within hours.

stray badge
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If able, make a bug report thread with as much detail as you can on the lag you're experiencing such as channel, time, occurrence/ frequency etc.
Itll help with a solution being found in case it was to do with something unrelated :o

valid lance
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I don't consider this a bug report. Because everything is working as intended in their eyes and we don't like it. Granted this GM might not be aware of the Feedback channel we have on this discord server but we are definitely not going to post anything to something that is 90% dead (i.e. the forums). So here we are, doing as we are told in essence. This is feedback. https://i.imgur.com/5LUXYg6.png @warm dirge did you submit a ticket about this as well by chance? If you did, did they also tell you Feedback?

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stray badge
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We have a tag specifically for reports of lag in the bug-reports channel, but you are right that this particular concern (RE: Server load concerns) is considered better for feedback.
Essentially, providing concise reports of when lag occurs can help the team find the solution that best fits the actual situation while feedback is also taken into consideration. alimesNodders
(As Trealde mentioned: It helps the team investigate areas needed for improvement from our perspective, and this includes our experience with lag!)

mental vortex
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https://discord.com/channels/278742874097582081/1284105473699876875

Please add regional servers while we're at this.. we are lagging 24/7 (EU, AU/OCE/SEA, etc).
When NA players lag like this, we feel them on top of the existing lag.
Relying on a third party app such as exitlag as a crutch isn't an official fix.
Devs can forecast server congestion.

slender prism
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Bump

surreal moss
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Yeah this issue is becoming more and more of a problem as the master plans go on.

stark olive
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Please the game is thriving player wise rn but it's making the game unplayable during peak hours.

mossy lake
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Been since December 2024....
And it feels like it's gotten worse despite this apparently being forwarded to Nexon. :V

I get that it takes time, but... at least acknowledge the issue.

wind inlet
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Game has been lagging a lot during the MP, was before it and its quite hard to do anything when you're averaging 10-25ms higher because of this on average.

The actual in-game server traffic bar on creating a character tells a tale too.

Something needs to be done to alleviate the latency issues here.

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meager spade
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Remember when we were told to be patient... DevCatCri what now, game is still unplayable from latency issues

civic plover
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Just wait for the high flyer and master plan to end and we will go back to being reasonably playable. Thanks to mabinogi's extremely poor progression system most people will quit again

vast furnace
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When a person levels from 1-200 in a single revived illusion room, it lags the entire channel

umbral karma
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Maybe mabi should split the playerbase into 4 different servers. And instead of a generic name like erinn, it could be named after important npc characters in the game.

That should help with the lag and give each server some personality

valid lance
mossy lake
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Yeah let's not split the server again.

frigid knot
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It will all be over in September. People will leave after masterplan and our server integrity will return to normal function.

One more month. Hang in there. We should get better server strength after UE5. Surely.

vast furnace
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peer to peer options, dedicated server options, rollback netcode, encrypted solo/local network play..one can only hope nexon picks anything other than the old code

valid lance
civic plover
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Personally if mabinogi made a true survival game version of itself is pay 30$ for it plus fun point is they could use the MMO for pre made content without having to make anything new

umbral karma
sturdy sparrow
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One can only hope that they are updating the netcode for the launch of Eternity.

All things said, it's virtually impossible for them to "fix" connection issues in a satisfying way.

The service region for Mabi is far too large. We're drawing in players globally all trying to reach the same server rack in the US.

"Just buy more servers and space them out"
That isn't going to help due to each of the servers having to synchronize with each other creating even worse server lag.

Then there's the issue of funding new servers or server upgrades. Mabi's community is niche compared to other titles. It doesn't make nearly enough revenue to warrant new infrastructure for now. (That's why we got merged with EU in the first place)

valid lance
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I only support server upgrades. This community fought too long and too hard to be on one server TOGETHER.

frigid knot
brave stratus
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This lag is atrocious. I never have gear swap delays and now it takes 3-5 seconds for my chars to swap from one set to the next.

I don’t want to wait for MP to end. What’s the point of this event when we can’t even take advantage of it because the game is unplayable?

hybrid isle
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It's really that bad huh? Wow yeah Eternity couldn't get here any sooner~

latent ore
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@forest oar More channels please.

ex_cri

mossy lake
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I think the issue isn't necessarily the amount of channels, but the server capacity or the engine itself.

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mossy lake
valid lance
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It's capability, they lowered it in the last couple of years. Also I do not appreciate being gaslit that is fake news from a mod with the existence of this thread and others. But at the same time, it is more than that. We have a distance issue. The server is all the way over in Washington. That can greatly effect ping. Maybe put the server in Texas just to be fair or somewhere in the middle of this country? I mean it is becoming the new silicon valley, people fleeing from california, oregon, and washington due to the cost of living. Might even save money getting away from those states. But I won't pretend to know if this is a viable solution. There could be other factors in play.

I am not going to say who here Giegue, in fact I deleted my comment so it couldn't be tied to that response image when I was talking about the server last night.

brisk umbra
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Being told to put in a support ticket for this was diabolical lol

frigid knot
# mossy lake Yeah I know. But I just think that we don't necessarily need more channels. We j...

I think having channels on separate servers or channels handled better on the same machine can actually increase integrity. I also believe from what I can recall, and I am no server hardware or netcode guy by any means, but I would think adding more channels to disperse the load of oncoming traffic would act as a padding for the could be influx of people after UE5 launch. Its nice to have stability from the start. It also helps with new player retention. Why not have it?

I am also a huge fan of being able to find a tiny bit more quiet than usual should I feel like having a little more of a quiet time roaming around the game. Adding 5 more channels would be great for that too.

vast furnace
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Gonna have to just say "trust me bro" that a solution exists, but nexon wont do it because nexon. I think we are just stuck waiting for now

hybrid isle
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It's like, as a player I totally get Eternity is on it's way and these issues will be fixed eventually, but what about from now till Eternity? I've seen so many games come out in 2024-2025 for pc alone and players call some of those games "unplayable" just cause they ain't running at 60fps+ on a beast pc. I don't really think there is a solution with Pleione Engine and we probably just have to wait this one out till Eternity UE5 launches. I do wish the NA Dev Team can at the very least confirm with the NA playerbase and let us know why we have to wait till Eternity, but also understand why we just can't know the true reason. Me personally, it's obvious the old Engine and this is why we are getting Eternity UE5 game upgrade, we just have to wait it out.

valid lance
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They won't, they are not allowed to. All we can do is let them know that we are not pleased with this situation and then hope they do something about it. Hopefully we won't have to wait 2 years for this to be addressed, even if it's done passively.

latent ore
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There's currently no evidence Nexon NA cannot fix this, they just choose not to. If you don't like it, you can choose not to buy gacha or NX.

each channel is a separate server, and has a different IP address. They can very much scale up the game with more channels, but they choose not to.

frigid knot
valid lance
# latent ore There's currently no evidence Nexon NA cannot fix this, they just choose not to....

Any kind of protests or boycotts on Nx (if successful) would cause Nexon to just sunset Mabinogi before fixing a problem (such as this). Also not very realistic in all honestly, ain't no one going to stop spending (it has never worked in the past lol). Also ftr, not saying you are inciting anything like this, just saying what the hypothetical outcomes would be if people just stopped spending money on Mabinogi. Nexon would be like, why no money coming in? Posts notice "Thank you for being part of Mabinogi, we regret..." 😂

Honest to god, I totally believe that would be the outcome. So in conclusion, not a realistic or good idea. We're already doing what we are supposed to be doing right here in this thread as we were directed to. Lookie! Elebon has been in this thread reading everything. He wasn't in here before. ❤️

tawdry vector
# valid lance Any kind of protests or boycotts on Nx (if successful) would cause Nexon to just...

tbh u make a good point, Maple does seem to get most of the attention. although they would lose invested money and Iabor on eternity, ive seen companies throw away even bigger and more costly projects to cut costs when a specific business model isnt working.

tbh I hope the eternity revamp brings in so many people they have to upgrade, otherwise risk losing profit. imagine how crazy it'd have been if eternity was completed and live in 2020, ffxiv had INSANE numbers then

also idk about the ticket responses.. something that happens a lot across the company i work for is that same polite business speak of, "Yes, and, you should do xyz", usually the support staff essentially trying to communicate, "I fully agree with you, but it has been made abundantly clear that my department holds zero power over this. However, this department monitors xyz so if people bring this to xyz en masse as much as they submit tickets, I can see the department that does have control over this taking real action". idk if thats what's happening but it's a possibility. intercompany dynamics can be kinda insane x.x

frigid knot
tawdry vector
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civic plover
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Only way mabinogi is becoming a competitor is if they fix the progression system where it can be replayable and make it based around casual play. Although having better servers or reduced lag thanks to better optimization would definitely help.

frigid knot
mossy lake
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This post now has a hundred (100) thumbs up and a hundred (100) comments (with mine). Neat :3

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vast furnace
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most controversial (august)

quartz viper
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I have to agree. All this rubber-banding is reminding me of years long since gone by. Those whom were around back then will know exactly what I mean. >w>;

valid lance
quartz viper
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umbral karma
quartz viper
# umbral karma I disagree, with more elaboration at https://discord.com/channels/27874287409758...

Not bitter about making it easier for new players. Bitter about our original work having nothing to show for it now on the basis of others obtaining the same ranks etc for far less work. Being bitter about your work and effort having no acknowledgment is not the same as being bitter about new players getting free ranks and power.

Give new players ranks etc for free, I hope they stay afterwards. Tera made similar mistakes and the game died as a direct result (and their changes were welcomed at first, too!). But yes, give new players whatever - at the same time, though, those of us that worked hard should have some kind of acknowledgment for that, imo. Even if it's only a title with no stats.

vast furnace
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give me a consumable that gives me 5 more max and 1% bonus damage for every year ive played mabi

frigid knot
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I will take snide remarks in that thread I made, but lets get this back to the point.

Server integrity/network/netcode.

The only thing I will state on it is that:

To call it bitterness within the context of new players getting a leg up, is ignorant to the intent of the thread. I have no clue how many countless times every single person including myself have agreed with the direction the game is heading in regarding new player experience and leg ups. Comprehension is difficult on big threads and I get people skim, but burning the intent like that without knowing everything that was put out in that thread is a little disingenuous. The way it was worded in that reply to @quartz viper makes it sound as though the intent is to bring in all the people who agree with the sentiments to air them out.

Full admission the thread titles are clickbait and provocative. However it aims to discuss how leg ups are employed not that its bad people have leg ups. It aims to seek how Veterans are feeling that they coulda had things for free, but haven't had the opportunity. It aims to discuss the hollow feeling some garner from the implementation of an event such as that. The discussion evolved in many ways discussing overarching points and undertones of where the game is heading with how they grant favor to newer players.

The intent is purely to poll ideas, and thoughts from all players from those who agree to those who disagree, find common ground, and go from there. We all love Mabinogi, but there are a lot of issues this game has inherited from past Directors, Dev Teams. We all have an opinion about how to move forward.

Many points @umbral karma were well thought out and agreeable in that thread and I encourage everyone to go and read her thoughts. But how she represented the thread here was far off base.

I appreciate your feedback but that tl;dr of what that thread "aims" to be was not accurate

Back to server integrity.

Edited: Initial impression detected malice, but after re-reading I see it was friendly. I apologize for coming off hot in this, but my sentiments still remain that the intent of it is mis-read, and not represented properly at all when pitching that thread to others.

dusky moss
bitter iris
# hybrid isle But really this is actually a really good point/argument to be made, returning p...

This was why I could not play iRO at all, the latency issues that make moving difficult/slow/delayed (while other servers had no such issue).
It's not good for Mabi either because of the combat can be really dependant on having low ping and all, adding the lag and latency issues on top of that can make some combat styles unplayable.

I hope they can upgrade Mabi soon or maybe even just turn all AFK events into hot day events, so less people AFK/fall asleep in-game (the current AFK event is SUPER demanding for ppl with limited playtime), that can maybe be a budget solution until eternity update (assuming they're waiting on that to upgrade servers)

golden fiber
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I just want to fusion bolt at sub 10 ping pls.

quartz moss
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I agree, I tried to invite my online friends to join the new game but unfortunably they disconnect because of server and hard to get free stuff. And happen to me, I get disconnect 3 times, It just feel like traffic server, don't get me wrong. I like Nao server but I think it needs to add new more channel or server.

mossy lake
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meager spade
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literally unplayable, im sorry but this is unacceptable for an mmo to have this problem for a literal year- If you know your event attracts players why do you not have the capacity for them

idk how the maint makes lag worse

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civic plover
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Slide show mode is fun and why most people AFK

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ripe crow
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Yeah it's crazy, we need better servers for this game. Trying to do content and getting rubberbanded or having equip swap be delayed in a game that looks like it's from the PS2 days is unacceptable. This game could be leagues more fun if it worked the way it should. When I see footage of KR's mabi it looks like a fever dream.

lofty cave
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The reason why the frame rate slow so much is because the client's render latency is extended so long that your PC is waiting on the software to finish it's end of the work lol. Apparently when you hide nametags, you gain back a lot of that frame rate... So the client is taking very long to render like 30-50 names of characters and npcs?

This is based on what I remember about the game back when I played.

EDIT: Oh wow 1 hour slow mode on threads.

On the disconnects, basically if server response times takes way too long it will disconnect the client, but in this case the server unable to handle the traffic; causes processing to take too long for all participants. Thus its own server code implodes on itself because it sends out the packets too late and received it too late before initiating a disconnection.

The good news is I saw streams and videos of Mabinogi Eternity and it looks like they reached the point where they can do alpha testing, though gameplay wise it's more like a entirely new game or even a 'sequel' in a sense.

tepid vault
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(Can't entirely compare to KR because they have a far better internet infrastructure than the rest of us)

quartz viper
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G27 is such a hassle with this lag. =w= 100% behind this thread... grawr.~ Really putting me off of playing. ._.

stark olive
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It is actually bordering on unplayable again.

mental vortex
frigid knot
latent ore
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bri leith basically unplayable with 1hs because of this lag. I can't party heal off the damage ticks fast enough due to lag :/

languid crag
# latent ore bri leith basically unplayable with 1hs because of this lag. I can't party heal ...

The second gate being a 100% movement and position based gimmick boss start to end is hell, as you essentially have to hope the server properly represents where all of 8 people are standing, dozens of times start to finish. Which it most of the time, can't.

And that's outside of manifest issues like having to meet DPS checks while attacking 3 times slower.

At peak hours, the server can't even maintain fair gameplay.

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meager spade
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EXPLAIN SOMEONE PLEASE ECXPLAIN HELP HGELPPPP

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gaunt dawn
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I like how this thread that’s getting close to a year old is still relevant

You guys can to go amazons server page and get a better package, I did it once for my Minecraft server and then downgraded when popularity dropped

ripe crow
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If these servers are truly cloud based and they haven't done anything to remedy this... mind boggling. Especially when they released a new dungeon full knowing it requires some precise teamwork and movement.

latent ore
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Angy fox wants better servers.

ex_angry

forest pond
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Oh wow, I thought this is a new thread. I'm starting to forget how this game plays without lag. Wait, what game is this, Mabinogi you say? No, it's Laginogi.

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mossy lake
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Well, they gave us more channels. But it's too early to say if they fixed the servers or made them better.

vast furnace
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it has spread out the cleric parties

wild minnow
quartz moss
frigid knot
mental vortex
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Very very happy to report that these new channels have massively improved the gaming experience from this end. some notable things:

  • it's faster now with no vpn than before with vpn
  • the auction house opens when it's clicked now, instead of there being a delay
  • can actually walk away from boss skill decals and not get hit
  • the feth donut, when yellow lasering, actually turns smoothly instead of freaking out
  • the walls aren't super sticky anymore (only a touch sticky now)
  • pet parade still doesn't work but that's okay
  • dual gun normal clicks are much faster
  • both click and wasd movements are snappier, can pick up items faster, dungeon doors open properly when clicked
  • NPC dialogue buttons respond faster
  • reforge spamming is slightly faster
  • skills actually work more often than not when you click/use them now!!!
  • crom 30 is actually soloable now. you can actually dodge the circles and lasers

and the best test of all today, passed ✨ feth hm hallway ✨ with pers guns(no erg no ts), and exact same gear as before, with a LOWER bfo (about -1%).
Before the extra channels, it was literally impossible to pass due to being ping gated.
10/10!!!!! (so far)

frigid knot
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With the time I have had so far, the servers are pretty darn stable. Good stuff!

mellow mango
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they added new channels and it actually made the game run better? maybe its time to finally log back on eloPauseChamp

vast furnace
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god i hate pet parade

gaunt dawn
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I think them running better was more because of the restart, yesterday the spawns were super slow regardless of channel was getting 1-3 second delays on when the next wave would spawn in rev

civic plover
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I think it just depends on the person as crom was still laggy for me also I really hope they fix the ping stun

mental vortex
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just want to make it clear that my experience has gone something like from being displaced 400-500 metres to being displaced 200-300 metres. that is a massive improvement and makes the game a lot more playable than before. running vhm rn and everything's so responsive, but i think if an NA player was to experience this, they would probably say its laggy..

frigid knot
hybrid isle
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Moon Ping NaoWheeze

mossy lake
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Goddamn... 5k-10k ping?????? that's insane..

frigid knot
# mossy lake Goddamn... 5k-10k ping?????? that's insane..

I tried running content the first couple days it started up, but I just did PTJs and gathering mats, which was also horrendous and terrible.

I couldnt help friends and Guildies with content for a month, which was sad.

At any rate, this is why when EU and OCEANA players say they are chillin on 200 ping, I just nod and agree. Because I have experienced something no human should ever have. Mabinogi on Moon Ping. Friends dont let friends play on MoonPing. 😄

mental vortex
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Yup. Never recommended mabi to anyone irl for the same reason.
Anyone who's on 270+ ping honestly should not be doing >solo< combat beyond tech norm, or at least do not heed advice from other players who are on lower ping. It's a completely different game, requiring different builds and strategies. More ping = less options.
If you intend to take on the challenge, expect higher costs(mainly sanity), get to know how the game behaves on your ping, then come up with strategies to fight your ping.
Some things you simply cannot outplay with pure skill or gear. Some strategies are ping gated but people on lower ping will never know it. Some stats rarely matter like skill cd or cast time reduc, making some ergs/upgrades useless. The sooner you accept that the better.

frigid knot
# mental vortex Yup. Never recommended mabi to anyone irl for the same reason. Anyone who's on ...

I akin to the likes of playing with good ping in 2008 ~ 2012 pre-Dynamic combat when skills had load times. When an EU player pushes a button for a skill, they have to wait for it to load. That was 2008 ~ 2012. But what makes it worse for and EU/OCEANA player is that they get to eat a Cooldown too, which wasnt present in the old days.

So then you are fighting to get a skill loaded, then you use the skill, and then you cant even use it again for X time. Burned at both ends.

Everything you stated is 100% true. You need to play with foresight, and thinking 3 Seconds ahead of your fight in order to make Mabinogi work. There is no reaction gameplay, its all future planning. Thats all strategy when muscle doesnt cut it.

lofty cave
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Can they add a ping checker ingame so I can tell how much latency atm?

vast furnace
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resource monitor>network>client.exe

green widget
mossy lake
latent ore
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foxxo is sad. servers laggy again

lofty cave
leaden sail
latent ore
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anyone aside from me still getting lag even with the 3 extra channels?

shy finch
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yeah its still super laggy, issue was never fixed just spread out/ppl stopped running/playing since they got rid of OTR for a bit and made it worse

gaunt dawn
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they should add 93 channels that way everyone can have their own, it'll still be as laggy but still

civic plover
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106 channels that would leave like 37 empty channels if everyone got their own channel

graceful stream
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I’m pretty sure all they did was take the same maximum space available and just partitioned it smaller, rather than increase the maximum space available to accommodate more people. The elevator was full and we were crammed in with more people. We’re crammed in with the same number of people in the same elevator, but now we each have walls between us so we aren’t bumping elbows constantly.

tawdry vector
latent ore
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hopefully 3 more channels fixes the lag, will have to check after work