#Double Album Confirmed

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bright tinsel
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For example: I'm pretty sure his even frays on one end like this one does.

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As for lore significance....beats me, maybe other people have guesses šŸ˜…

sour kestrel
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Haha, maybe it is purely style

bright tinsel
storm fable
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don't wallet chains connect on both ends though? this one seemingly has one clip, the other end is blackened

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unless it just blends with his pants

bright tinsel
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I think he's letting it dangle with the stole just because it looks cool.

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Tyler also had a silver wallet chain in some of the Clancy promo shoots -

sour kestrel
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Oh dang! So yeah maybe it is purely a style thing

storm fable
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I feel like every aspect of tylers lore outfits have meaning though, the stole, jacket, mask, tape, red socks are all very significant

bright tinsel
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Could be! We still don't know the meaning of the stole.

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I have a theory on the meaning of the mask, but I'm not sure if other people would agree on it.

golden umbra
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Someone said that the cord reminded them of a dog leash
Death inspires me like a dog inspires a rabbit
Thats what I think of when it comes to that atp

limber jasper
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woah

cloud lynx
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if Clancy is playing/producing rebellious music it wouldn't make much sense for Blurryface to tease it

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no?

bright tinsel
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I'm not sure. Maybe Blurry is just trying to appear in control.

loud hare
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I added this to theories, but it got lost, but the Blurryface video is literally snippets from the tĆøp video posted an hour before the tweet for The Contract. The audio’s purpose is unknown, but sounds like ā€œ[I] check[ed] the door[s], check[ed] the window[s], and pull[ed] the blind[s]ā€ and the ending also sounds like ā€œfill the blanksā€. This can be linked to a few songs like RITN, Not Today, and others saying Redecorate. The bishop behind Josh in the RITN video has always been there. Not sure what anyone wants to do with the info, but it’s there lol

karmic lake
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it is confusing

loud hare
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I have a few theories, one that started ages ago that keeps evolving, and I’ve been keeping my own tabs on things.

karmic lake
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maybe clancy and blurry are still fighting for jurisdiction?

loud hare
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I might make my own thread with details of my theory because it’s a lot lol

karmic lake
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i honestly dont know it points to being rebellious but blurry is teasing it so im so confused

ivory radish
stuck frigate
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Its definitely going to be a HEAVY song from the way Tyler was moving around in the teaser

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ivory radish
storm fable
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storm fable
ivory radish
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yes very fair

ivory radish
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cloud lynx
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Clancy had some punk/rock stuff but Breach might go even harder

ivory radish
# ivory radish I am hoping for this tbh

cause I’m not a massive fan of hds, but that’s mostly due to Tyler’s lack of rapping skill at the time - I feel like if he tried a similar thing now he’d be able to pull it off MUCH more effectively, not to mention the much higher production value they have now and Tyler’s voice/performance style maturing

ivory radish
bright tinsel
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The live versions of HDS from Takeover Tour - present are far better than the original.

ivory radish
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the writing on the rap verses is still lackluster tho as that is one thing which doesn’t change show to show

bright tinsel
ivory radish
ivory radish
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different song but yeah that’s a garbage line

bright tinsel
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I know, I just thought it was funny to mention.

ivory radish
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it’s one of the many reasons why Lane Boy is one of, if not my least favourite tĆøp song

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oat

ivory radish
cloud lynx
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tho yeah it doesn't make the lyrics less cringy

ivory radish
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same boat for those of us who are NF fans, he has some stinkers but at a live show they always go hard regardless

cloud lynx
mossy drift
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So did anyone check the doors and the windows and fold the blinds already?
I thought it had something to do with song lyrics maybe.
Also I am wondering why he only says "check the doors" and "check the windows" once and says "fold the blinds" five times - it seems to be important! (Or is it a code 1-1-5?)

cloud lynx
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i've seen people make parallels with how Dema citizens do close the windows when the Banditos arrive

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might be Dema making some kind of warning

ivory radish
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oo true

cloud lynx
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trying to seem in control

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or smth

cloud lynx
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this band istg grief

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could also be Nico playing with Clancy's mind

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(and with us)

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(cuz we're breaching our pants rn)

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mossy drift
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And why is the Blurryface video rotated? Looks like "west is up" now🫣

cloud lynx
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and... yeah, at least The Contract seems to go very hard

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could be rap-rock?

bright tinsel
cloud lynx
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omgggg please

brazen leaf
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yes pls

limber jasper
bright tinsel
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IKR!

limber jasper
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ima go to heaven

brazen leaf
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need studio screams on breach

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šŸ™

limber jasper
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music heaven actually

cloud lynx
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i clearly think MTV Unplugged was them experimenting with new styles

cloud lynx
brazen leaf
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every time i go back to mtv unplugged im soo impressed by how they did that

cloud lynx
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i even said it at the time

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lol

brazen leaf
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in general i feel like they’re so good at reimagining their songs and in some cases making them better..

limber jasper
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the unplugged thing was amazing since it was experimenting throughout all of it, not gonna lie

cloud lynx
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i wasn't so wrong

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Clancy has some rock vibes indeed

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also Stressed Out MTV => RiTN?

brazen leaf
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definitely shows their ability to go to different genres

limber jasper
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next semester was more punk

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limber jasper
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and i love it

brazen leaf
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heavy vibes are what i think we’re getting on breach

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i rlly hope

cloud lynx
bright tinsel
cloud lynx
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or at least banging his head, and also rapping/singing rapidly?

brazen leaf
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yesss i thought that too

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he looks like he would scream

limber jasper
brazen leaf
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i think the contract could be a full rap song as well

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from the footage we’ve seen

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or like HDS vibes.

cloud lynx
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imagine rap with screaming or even rock influences

brazen leaf
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i hope

cloud lynx
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mixed with HDS vibes

brazen leaf
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i want rock vibes on this album

cloud lynx
brazen leaf
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heavy bass

cloud lynx
limber jasper
brazen leaf
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i’m so excited for the contract 😭

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literally can’t wait to hear it

limber jasper
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since i am sick free now finally i can fucking scream MY LUNGS OUT AGAIN.

brazen leaf
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clancy is actually a rlly diverse album

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they won’t over so many genres and styles

cloud lynx
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i mean

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OC to NS

brazen leaf
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so impressive

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yeahhh

bright tinsel
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Overcompensate has alt-rock elements, but it's not super heavy.

brazen leaf
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like that’s a crazy switch

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and then to even backslide

cloud lynx
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limber jasper
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i hope you get better..

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Now I know it’s just visual but I think there is screaming in the contract

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Of some sort

brazen leaf
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agreed

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Based on that little teaser

brazen leaf
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i hope

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even the style of the video looks intense and high energy so i’m hyped

bright tinsel
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I’m just saying y’all better be prepared because this is without a doubt their darkest album

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I don’t think there is a happy ending

brazen leaf
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i am fully here for a dark album

limber jasper
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Well I’ve been saying this since scaled and icy

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And then I heard shy away and was like

brazen leaf
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clancy didn’t rlly commit to gritty or dark vibes which i’m ok with but now is the time for real heavy shit

cloud lynx
brazen leaf
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yeah

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it has very dark undertones

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But they are gonna be straight forward with the dark shit

cloud lynx
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šŸ”„

brazen leaf
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imo the way they’re marketing the album shows full confidence in what they have

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it feels special

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idk

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brazen leaf
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something about it feels very special

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I wanna see the track list

compact arrow
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I wanna know what the last song is titled

brazen leaf
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yesss

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i’m so intrigued about everything 😭

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Also

bright tinsel
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I wonder if they'll try to hide the tracklist longer this time.

compact arrow
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The BF shit being more horror/scary further pushes the undertone of the album

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Very dark

ivory radish
brazen leaf
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yeah

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that bf video is so creepy omg

compact arrow
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Finally a extremely dark album

brazen leaf
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and like

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definitely doesn’t have a cohesive sound

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or vibe

cloud lynx
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I have a good feeling this shits gonna have trench tones to it

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Very bass heavy

brazen leaf
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i hope

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i’m dying for a heavy jumpsuit bass line

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Still can’t believe that Clancy sing we’re made on a baritone ukulele 🤣

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NS has no guitars

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That’s all ukulele’s

golden umbra
storm fable
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I disagree actually, despite going all over the place in genre, clancy ties together across the whole album through the elements, specific sounds, and instruments used in the music

brazen leaf
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yeah that’s crazy when i first found out next semester is all ukulele

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insane

golden umbra
limber jasper
cloud lynx
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they're so creative lol

brazen leaf
limber jasper
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its fucking amazing

golden umbra
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Or surprise Tyler whips out his guitar skills from the summer he taught himself to play guitar hehe

limber jasper
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pure ass ukulele punk

brazen leaf
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i still love clancy it’s my 3rd favourite top album probably

golden umbra
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hells yeahh

cloud lynx
storm fable
cloud lynx
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Navigating

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has guitar during the chorus, for example
actual electric guitar

brazen leaf
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true i guess it does have a light sound across the entire album ur right

golden umbra
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I thought that was bass

cloud lynx
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there is bass

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but there is a guitar riff too

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it's just hard to hear

golden umbra
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Crazyyyy I gotta re listen now

bright tinsel
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It's bad mixing. Just listen to the instrumental.

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LMAOO

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YEAH WE ARE FUCKED

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Perish

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Shortly

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Perish

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LMAOOO

brazen leaf
bright tinsel
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Not counting the bass.

bright tinsel
compact arrow
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Me when blurryface tells me to perish

golden umbra
bright tinsel
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In particular, there's this one riff on the last chorus that I adore, but it's tough to hear without surround sound.

golden umbra
limber jasper
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i legit listened to all of clancy on my surround sound system in my living room

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Yeah I highly recommend you guys watch Paul’s videos

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Very insightful

bright tinsel
brazen leaf
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the blurryface video genuinely had me so scared like ummm im barricading my doors if im in dema

bright tinsel
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I've watched all of Paul's videos and love him as a producer.

brazen leaf
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paul meany is so good

compact arrow
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And kinda shows the side of Tyler when he’s making music and where his head is at

storm fable
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does atrofd have guitar too ? or is that all bass

brazen leaf
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i love his production insights

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brazen leaf
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man the production paul did on trench is still so crazy

golden umbra
limber jasper
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but 100% ima do it when the contract releases

bright tinsel
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Alright, since you guys might be curious, I actually made a list of Clancy songs with guitar.

brazen leaf
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trench is made for high volume headphone listening i discover new sounds and effects every time i listen to it

storm fable
brazen leaf
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agreed

ivory radish
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June 12th can’t come faster

golden umbra
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The whole bit about the blue reminds me of the recent post with all the blue pictures from the tour

brazen leaf
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one thing i also love about trench is songs like cut my lip and the hype, sections of the song really focusing on the instrumental and the vibe of the beat

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with no vocals

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like the perfectly dragged out outros and intros

storm fable
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actually I think snap back really managed to capture the trench production feel

golden umbra
storm fable
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despite having a different vibe/sound, it had the same kind of building and layering and structure

bright tinsel
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LIST OF CLANCY SONGS WITH GUITAR:

  • Overcompensate (last chorus, dissonant guitar -> Dolby Atmos makes it easier to hear)
  • Next Semester - except not really, those are just pitched ukes...
  • Midwest Indigo - guitar riff before / during / after the bridge.
  • Routines In The Night - has a very subtle "plum plum plum" muted rythmn guitar going throughout the song.
  • Vignette - "It's a tribute to zombies" section.
  • Navigating - The whole song!
  • Snap Back - there's a plucking at either a guitar or uke after the 2nd or 3rd time he says "I gotta Snap Back".
  • Oldies Station - has very subtle rythmn guitars during the bridge/ outro
  • ATRoFD - "So please, keep it in mind..." and "Just keep your plans..."
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Ok so I just realized

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We get the contract exactly 2 weeks from today

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So I’m guessing we’ll get something more next Thursday

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And then be drip fed more teasers the week of the 12th

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And then kaboom

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New song and MV

ivory radish
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sound wise

lean mango
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Just popping in to say I love Clancy's mixing, and I do think it's a cohesive style and album

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Someone made a good point

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What if BF leaks the song early

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It’s not far fetched

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I remember tweaking when BF leaked the bf album

lean mango
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The only thing I don't like as well is how loud it's mastered, usually only -5 to -7 LUFS

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And then the mv on the 12th

lean mango
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That'd be cool

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I hope it happens today, the wait is killing me

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Same

storm fable
golden umbra
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Are we thinking similar to what happened with the Paladin Strait video ?

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I feel like a leak from bf isn’t far fetched either

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Also Tyler is just as excited as us

bright tinsel
storm fable
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if blurryface leaks anything early, i'm thinking it'll be like the next semester snippet the band posted,
a short teaser filmed from a weird angle

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with actual audio from the song this time

lean mango
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Idk if I'd call that a leak, just another teaser from Blurry's account

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Not the same as when he actually released songs or the album early

storm fable
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mm true

cloud lynx
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it seems like it

weak thorn
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Holy shit you were so fucking right

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RAHHHHH

cloud lynx
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and Snap Back

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well, also Midwest Indigo

trail bay
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Start fresh next semester šŸ’Æ

limber jasper
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i am ready to disect the fuck of the contract when it comes out

brazen leaf
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13 days

olive jewel
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My theory is Clancy and Blurryface agree to coexist (i.e. a Contract), but the Banditos and TB win on the ground and TB lights up Dema, forcing Clancy's hand

heady temple
shadow cipherBOT
wise sparrow
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NEW BLURRYFACE TWEET 🚨🚨🚨

trim bough
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I COULDNT SEE IT, WHAT WAS IT

woven prawn
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"I check the lock, I check the lock, wondering what he will pull this time" from what I can hear

boreal portal
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what the FUCK DUDE

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i was at WORK

wise sparrow
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He’s scaring me 😭😭

brazen leaf
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BLURRY

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TWEETED

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AGAIN

trail bay
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Is there Morse code in the lights/clicking?

brazen leaf
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IM SO HYPEDDD

karmic flicker
noble badge
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I WASN'T EXPECTING ANOTHER BLURRY TWEET

fluid owl
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Daily blurryface tweets is crazy

brazen leaf
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i cant wait 13 days omg now im so hyped

lean mango
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Daily Blurryface tweets make me think the song might leak soon

brazen leaf
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breach is a horror album at this point mannn

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im so excited

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this is so creepy

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the contract could literally be a process of clancy signing a contract or smth

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his bishop contract maybe

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the lyrics sound like they're securing a room or smth

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and then the keyboard noises

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a typewriter

boreal portal
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the song fs will leak

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we back to 2015

bright tinsel
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I was just about to say that. I feel like Blurryface might give us a leak, even if just a snippet.

quaint steppe
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Ooooh I hope these tweets are daily this is fire

brazen leaf
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daily and maybe the day before we got a weird distorted, leaked version of the song

stark fiber
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probably the music video for The Contract

stark fiber
brazen leaf
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imagine his kids ask him to do smth and tyler's like hold on guys i just need to post this horror video on my roleplay account

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also this is random but

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i think the only teaser they did for overcompensate was at the end of i am clancy?

brazen leaf
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this rollout is reminding me so much of trench

stark fiber
olive jewel
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just wait until dmaorg updates

stark fiber
brazen leaf
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they need to bring back an era spoilers channel

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in case it leaks

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i am not looking to be spoiled this time

stark fiber
stark fiber
boreal portal
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crazy

limber jasper
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TF HAPPENED I WAS ASLEEP

brazen leaf
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blurry tweet 2

limber jasper
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while i was a asleep.

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dAMN YOU BLURRYFACE

cloud lynx
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also the band that jokingly reacts about leaks (cuz i promise they aren't actually mad šŸ™ )

stark fiber
cloud lynx
stark fiber
olive jewel
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why do i feel like the number of fingers they're holding up in their new video is also a code lmao

cloud lynx
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still leaks don't rly matter for the band lol

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they don't harm them

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if u don't like leaks then just don't listen to them

stark fiber
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random ppl leaking the song ruins the experience for ppl that are trying so hard to not listen

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but it ruins the experience for fans

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some ppl cant control themselves which is why its better if no one leaks it. why is this an argument šŸ’€

cloud lynx
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leaks are gonna happen anyway

stark fiber
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and im shaming the ppl that leak it/promoting the leak

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if it leaks, keep it to yourself. dont tell other ppl

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its not a problem if you listen to the leak, thats still the leakers fault. it only becomes your fault if your posting about the leak. i even hate ppl posting saying to avoid the leak cause then ppl who didn't wanna know that it leaked, knows now. just dont post or tell anyone. keep it to yourself

boreal portal
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you wouldn’t survive a day in a hiphop community 🤣

vital adder
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-# this is not rap this is not hiphop

worldly steeple
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i feel bad abt listening to a whole leaked album but loose tracks idgaf

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when ken carson had his album leak like 3 dsys early i waited

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same with clancy

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but like ill listen to ken leaks

boreal portal
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untiljapan album just leaked

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crazy album u should tap into @worldly steeple

stark fiber
tender musk
wise sparrow
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If it weren’t for the leaks we would’ve never gotten the balloon leaking on the live stream! šŸ˜‚šŸ˜­ in all fairness, the only leak that’s acceptable in my eyes are the ones that come from the DEMA.org website (Paladin desaturated music video)

tender musk
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tbh, listening to leaks is a very personal thing, some people hate it, some people like it. just don’t share leaks with people who don’t want them. it is very easy to respect that boundary

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but dont hate ppl who listen to leaks bc it isnt that serious

worldly steeple
stark fiber
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and reposts the leaks

tender musk
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they SHOULD put spoiler warnings hopefully, but mostly just avoid twitter for certain if there are known leaks and you dont want them

boreal portal
worldly steeple
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no gb on breach ā‰ļø

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gb some carti or uzi or sum ug shit

boreal portal
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breach era unheard

worldly steeple
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carti 9k gb was diabolical

boreal portal
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we had 500 leaks

worldly steeple
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there is a ton yeah

stark fiber
worldly steeple
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then again uzi leaks are bad because doesn't he keep the shit locked up after

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😭

boreal portal
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wtf was ea2

worldly steeple
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the nitrous fucked him up too hard

boreal portal
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why

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Oh they’re doing it every day

limber jasper
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bro THERES so mUch going on that i am overwhelmed holy fuck

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i was about to keep doing my millionth zonjillion playthrough of kh3 again

compact arrow
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Welcome to this insanity

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One final ride

brazen leaf
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Yeah lore stuff is cool but I genuinely just want normal roll outs

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Think about it

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They haven’t had a normal rollout since vessel

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🤣

brazen leaf
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its so fun tho

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no other artist does shit like this

compact arrow
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This is completely opinionated, but I’m getting to the age where shit is just so busy that keeping tabs on this especially during the semester was tough.

boreal portal
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Oh the new BF video reversed sounds like they may drop breach early

boreal portal
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for sure

compact arrow
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No promises and don’t quote me on that

boreal portal
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blurryface will leak it

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but my cd will still come september

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😦

limber jasper
graceful hill
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Let me know what you think

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I hear ā€œout there nowā€

gilded anchor
# compact arrow Lemme find it

Mackle this is just a word of encouragement that if I can get my newbie rear into verified then you too, the "creator" for all intents and purposes of the double album theory, can definitely get in šŸ¤ Keep trying, See you there!!

golden umbra
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With all this activity happening right now you might be right
It’d be odd for all of this to happen so fast when it’s still 2 weeks away

shadow cipherBOT
brazen leaf
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yhh

cloud lynx
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i do feel like Blurryface is either gonna leak smth again
or a twist is gonna happen

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cuz like why are they teasing it so much and doing all that while it's only coming out June 12th

cedar yacht
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I wonder if he will continue tweeting the following days

stark fiber
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they probably also have to work around the tribute album thing too which is also coming out in June. could explain the song announcement being 3 weeks in advance so if they keep promoting it for all this time until the release, the new song will be on everyone's mind more than the tribute album (i still bought the tribute album lol)

brazen leaf
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they kinda did overshadow the tribute album announcement tho lol with the eye closing, BFX posts

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i dont think they'll move for anything else

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they havent even mentioned the tribute album officially

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wait nvm i realise what ur saying

lean mango
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The way Ride was

brazen leaf
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not leaked i think BF will post a rlly distorted, unclear version of the song

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or a snippet

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the day before

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and we'll get other BF posts/videos everyday or other day leading up to the 12th

stark fiber
lean mango
storm fable
stark fiber
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only set for Pre-order rn

lean mango
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Ah

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Yea, I doubt they'll work around that, especially when they have a single coming, but they don't tend to incorporate unofficial things into their plans, based on what I've seen in the past

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What I'm feeling right now is, we had absolute silence for a week

cloud lynx
lean mango
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And then now two days of posts in a row

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It feels like it's building up to Blurry leaking The Contract soon, it feels like leadup to something much sooner than 2 weeks from now

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Depends ofc but IDK if I expect them to do this and then go silent for another week in the middle, and I'd be surprised if they have 2 weeks of this kind of activity prepared for the leadup to one single, even if only business days

stark fiber
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because of how much bigger the band is compared to 2015, Blurry might not leak the full song but post a like 5-20 second clip of maybe the music video with the song a bit distorted in the background

storm fable
brazen leaf
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agreed

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the tribute album marketing has been absolutely terrible so the band probably dont want to associate with that...

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or they're just too locked in lore rn

lean mango
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I actually have a crazy theory

storm fable
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also the tribute album isn't really their thing, they're focused on their own release coming up in two weeks

stark fiber
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i can definitely see Tyler posting something tho when it drops appreciating all the artists on it

brazen leaf
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yeah

lean mango
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Well bear in mind that leaking the whole song can be an intended part of the promo plan. They can say June 12th but not actually have ever intended to wait that long so Blurry can "force them" to release it earlier

brazen leaf
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eh

stark fiber
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im still expecting it to be June 12th

lean mango
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That's fine but I'm just proposing a possibility

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Whether it's likely or not, I'm not sure

brazen leaf
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full release on june 12th, blurry posts a distorted snippet the day before

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i think

lean mango
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But we do have a precedent for Blurry leaking their music, and his activity was similar to this at the time

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Yea, pretty sure that wasn't him

stark fiber
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bro yall remember when they never announced releases šŸ’”

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i miss that

cloud lynx
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they're so straightforward with that Breach announcement

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šŸ‘ļø

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i'm keeping my eyelids up guys

stark fiber
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announcing Overcompensate a week before it dropped

lean mango
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Now, my crazy theory:

brazen leaf
storm fable
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I think they want the general casual fanbase to know about the album, while still being able to hide cryptic clues and videos for those wanting to look deeper

lean mango
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What if The Contract and Breach are both meant to leak by Blurryface as part of the promo plan? There are a few things I've been thinking about.

One, the album release date isn't actually announced, they just say September. This doesn't make a lot of sense unless there's some reason they couldn't set it in stone yet, but I'm not quite buying the "not announced yet in case they have to delay it" interpretation, because they may not know if it will need to be delayed until last minute. (Also album release dates usually come months in advance so they should be able to plan ahead enough that it will rarely be necessary to delay.)

Two, Blurry's behavior and activity feels like it's leading to something sooner than 2 weeks from now. Not only that but it heavily implies bringing back aspects of the Blurryface era, where both a single and the album "leaked" via Blurryface.

Three, the first pressing edition of the album only lasts til June 12th, 3 months before the album is set to release. Yea, it could be a kind of earlybird special, but why that early?

As for why I think it's at least possible:

-Nontraditional promo strats including shadow drops are a lot more common recently, and TOP have already been kind of at the forefront of unconventional promo, and a second album in a single era can afford to take more risks.

-TOP fans always bring up the Blurryface leaks when new music is on the way. Tyler gets ideas from us, including probably the idea of a double album, so IMO it's not far-fetched that he would consider using that idea for this too. Also, we'd go absolutely crazy if it came much earlier than expected, especially if there was some ARG aspect of it

brazen leaf
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i think they wont leak full albums or songs early because it alienates and confuses general audiences

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but i see what u mean

lean mango
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They already have before, and yea, they weren't quite as big but they still had a decent following

smoky turtle
lean mango
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I don't agree that it alienates the wider audience

cloud lynx
smoky turtle
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I alr got my shipping details for my vinyl I do completely understand your point but I don't think they'd just change it on the fly I think FPE buyers will get like a digital remains type of haul

lean mango
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A lot of artists do shadowdrops recently, they always make big waves. Look at Kendrick's last album for example. There's not a lot of difference between not annoucing it at all and then dropping it vs. dropping it early for someone who isn't that invested in this. They'll just hear about it when it's out and check it out

smoky turtle
lean mango
smoky turtle
brazen leaf
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same

lean mango
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They'd probably move it up if they did this. Not really any reason they can't do that

smoky turtle
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I mean there is tho lol, I don't see a world where the people who bought the first pressing get it months later

cloud lynx
smoky turtle
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I genuinely wouldn't understand that especially since I alr have my shipping details in place

lean mango
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That's what I'm saying, if they did this they'd just update the date and ship much earlier

brazen leaf
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but thats a logistical nightmare

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i highly doubt they'd do all that

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instead

smoky turtle
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Now I'm drowning in logistics

lean mango
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It shouldn't cause any significant issues to do so, they just send out an email saying it's shipping earlier

brazen leaf
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this would all be planned

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they wouldnt put shipping dates out if they planned to shadow drop earlier

cloud lynx
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if it's all planned in advance and September 5th is like a fake date, idk if it'd be that complicated logistically?

cloud lynx
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... well okay u'd have to update all the people about it

lean mango
# brazen leaf but thats a logistical nightmare

Not really, if it is all planned then they don't have to change anything internally, they just have to send a quick email to a mailing list of purchasers to update people. As someone who uses promo emails a lot, that's super easy

brazen leaf
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but if it was planned they wouldnt put september 5th on the shipping details

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they'd leave it blank

cloud lynx
smoky turtle
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I jus like already have all my details idk why they'd jus give it too you earlier. Like I said I think the FPE drop is gonna be nothing more than a digital remains type of haul that's the only reason there's a special version to buy until contract comes out. And like @brazen leaf said they wouldnt give us shipping details to begin with if it's something they were planning to do

lean mango
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Depends on how shipped stuff usually functions there. It could be the case that the system is not set up to let people order stuff without a date

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Which could explain why the release date is in shipping details but not announced officially

smoky turtle
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I preordered several and several vinyls never got a shipping date until the albums release date was finalized I'ma jus go off of that

lean mango
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I always have

smoky turtle
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I like your theory but it jus doesn't add up

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If there wasn't a FPE drop I'd be in your board 100%

lean mango
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It does lol, the hurdles you're seeing are very tiny things that are easy to overcome if they wanted to

winged sapphire
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hm

lean mango
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Not that I'm in any way sure about it, but saying it's impossible because they told people a date already doesn't make sense

smoky turtle
dry vector
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its so good to have a long shot hope theory validated

lean mango
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No, it's super easy. Again, I have music promo experience, all they need to do is send out an email to all buyers and ship it early. Literally one click

lean mango
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Also I'll say again, I'm not saying I believe this theory

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But the assertion that it's impossible because of one case where they told people a date just isn't true

smoky turtle
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Brother your musical promo experience is great and all but we are literally talking about 100s of millions of people who all literally have the same exact album date on when they're supposed to receive an album. That is 100% going to be difficult to have every single person be in the same page. I'd love to have your theory prove me wrong for sure because it's not a horrible theory just very very very unlikely especially since mines already processed

lean mango
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I think you overestimate how much that matters

smoky turtle
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Kendrick you couldn't preorder bc it wasn't announced 😭

lean mango
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Ok, now we're strawmanning? Fine, you win I guess

smoky turtle
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There's no winning in this argument brother I'm jus saying there really isn't logic besides an opinion. I'd love for sure to have your theory prove me wrong tho deadass

lean mango
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You're right that there's no winning, once you start steamrolling and misrepresenting the people who disagree with you continuing it is pointless

smoky turtle
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Your using a logical fallacy by saying other albums you know dropped like that. Doesn't make your argument valid your just reaching, I legitimately have proof that it tells me when this album is going to arrive in my door. That's logic over opinion

lean mango
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I never said that, that's a strawman

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Which is, ironically, a logical fallacy

smoky turtle
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Brother where?

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I never changed my argument once the definition of stawman

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Straw*

lean mango
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That's not what a strawman is lol

smoky turtle
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It's misconstruing a point to make yours better when did I do so?

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lean mango
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A strawman is falsely claiming the other person is making an argument that they're not to make it easier to refute. In this case, you say I claimed that other preorderable albums have dropped much earlier, which I never said

smoky turtle
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But okay

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Have a good day your reaching my friend

lean mango
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Read what I actually said

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Did I mention the shadowdrops being possible to preorder?

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(no, I didn't)

smoky turtle
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But you can't pull strawman on me when I legitimately went off your argument so I'm confused where this is even going for you

queen iris
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This is not the place for this kind of conversation

smoky turtle
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Okie dokie

queen iris
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Please keep it to the double album theory and be nice to each other

lean mango
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You didn't read, and then you tried to misrepresent what I said

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Yea, I was talking about the double album theory

smoky turtle
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Again like I said I hope your theory is right, I apologize if it frustrated you but I legitimately went off of what you were saying

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Have a good day bro

lean mango
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But I guess we can't talk theories here without someone coming in and shutting it down, responding to every instance of it being mentioned by saying why it's definitely impossible and shouldn't even be considered

lean mango
smoky turtle
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I'm playing devils advocate for a theory that's unlikely that's all my friend I genuinely apologize it it came off as rude

lean mango
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Wrong reply oops

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But anyway

smoky turtle
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Dude..

olive plume
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they were able to delay the clancy release by a week—and they announced that relatively close to the release date too. if they wanted to move breach’s date up sooner (or later void), they absolutely can

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and some people still got their clancy copies on the original release date due to some warehouses not realizing/paying enough attention/technicalities so the same thing could happen here

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i wouldn’t rule it out as a possibility because they have changed release dates before even with the numerous amounts of preorders

cloud lynx
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my honest opinion is that Breach coming out earlier feels a bit like a stretch
i don't think it's very likely to happen
but it's clearly not strictly impossible lol

lean mango
olive plume
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exactly

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i know their webstore is showing september 5th but i think there’s a reason they haven’t announced a firm date yet. and i’m not saying it’s because of possible leaks… but… heeheegiggle

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we’re supposed to have system-wide training at work sometime in september so i hope it doesn’t fall on this album release grief

lean mango
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Oof, hopefully not

stark fiber
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I also think that there will be a little puzzle to access the contract mv early

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Similar with how they just did the clock thing

dawn kettle
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Puzzle for contract teaser like paladins with digital

bright tinsel
bright tinsel
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That's extremely far-fetched though.

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"I am Blurryface" video hollow

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fiery current
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yeah that’s what i was thinking the lyrics seem more fitting

compact arrow
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I have a good feeling we are not waiting 2 weeks

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At the rate they are doing all this

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I was expecting all this shit to start popping off next week

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I’m not trusting any dates right now

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Album is a bit far fetched however this seems to have been done for a minute now

lean mango
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I'm not trusting that I'm Not Home is actually a thing til we have 100% confirmation of it honestly

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I think these lyrics make sense in the context of a contract too, potentially

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either secretive signing of something, or breaching the contract and then shutting people out to avoid consequences

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(I still like the theory that the contract is about the TB agreement breach, however a Bishop contract would be such an effective setup for an album, so I could see that happening)

reef sapphire
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but it also just sounds to me like hes complaining about electricity prices

brazen leaf
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they keep saying it’s all about the contract etc they wouldn’t tease a completely different song

maiden onyx
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they wouldn’t, but blurryface on the other hand….šŸ‘€

cloud lynx
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the Blurryface videos had home lexicon

cloud lynx
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We also have "Do you feel (feef) at home" from the shirts i believe
We still don't know where this comes from, but it sounds more like a lyric than a title, maybe it's from The Contract? It'd make sense from what we're getting recently, the home vocab

compact arrow
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Bro

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@sour panther can you please remove slow mode

sour panther
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no can-do brother

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it's permanent for all theory forum posts now

weak thorn
steady eagle
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theory-forum channels aren't supposed to hold the same conversation flow as other faster paced channels. sorry but it's the standard

cloud lynx
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If this is just your new rule, sorry but I don't see the point of it...? It's just annoying
I mean these forum threads aren't usually as active as #theories or #verified-theorists

steady eagle
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You just justified my point. Sorry if I seemed rude with this btw

cloud lynx
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Isn't the point of slowmode to... slow down channels with a lot of activity?
(Not trying to argue or anything)

steady eagle
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It's alright, thank you
We could lower it later but for now, we just don't want them to become as fast paced like a general channel

cloud lynx
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I see I see

brazen leaf
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makes no sense lol

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there's like 10 of us that talk here, it never gets busy, 10seconds is a bit silly

ivory radish
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idm the slowmode here personally but yeah I feel like theories does need one lol

cedar yacht
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GUYS

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breach got announced, hella cool. did yall see?

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I NEED ARG SHIT CMON BLURRY GUY

lean mango
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Whattt, double album confirmed!?!?

gilded anchor
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Double album confirmed, WHAT!? Nah you gotta show some proof we ain’t fallin for that

cedar yacht
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YA GUYS

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this is the album cover

cloud lynx
gilded anchor
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WOAH
IT LOOKS LIKE ITS GONNA BE TRENCH 2

gilded anchor
cedar yacht
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iit definetely is gonna be trench 2 tho on a srs note i do think the breach

cloud lynx
cedar yacht
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album is gonna be rench 2

cloud lynx
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ranch 2

cedar yacht
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TRENCH 2

storm fable
cloud lynx
gilded anchor
gilded anchor
cloud lynx
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I think when they restarted working on Breach/Clancy, maybe they decided to split it up i guess, and they took the time to make more songs

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Not immediately go to the end

gilded anchor
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I guess so

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Which I think is better this way, cause Clancy is so good on its own two feet, but it’s just not quite the special ending it should’ve been if there wasn’t a separate album

cloud lynx
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Trench was already kinda started in 2016-2027, I wouldn't be surprised if he started writing songs for Clancy/Breach back in 2018-2019

cloud lynx
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Clancy was just a small taste of that

gilded anchor
cloud lynx
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I don't know what to think

fiery current
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i haven’t seen anyone talk abt this yet but it’s crazy how breach already has so many connections to every lore album without even having a single song out

vessel

  • (kind of a stretch) breach is the only other album with two figures front and center in a similar fashion to their grandparents in vessel. like breach is immortalizing the boys through the new cover

blurryface

  • same color scheme/similar outfitting
  • return of character blurryface
  • blurryface silhouette in album cover

trench

  • assumed to be most sonically similar to breach
  • breach started development partially as a response to trench’s success and been cooking ever since
  • their last project also formally called ā€œfull-length albumā€

SAI

  • breach was announced on SAI’s anniversary which is REALLY interesting like it’s going to follow up on that album’s themes
  • tyler stated in an interview that redecorate is indirectly important for what they’re creating next, being supposedly much darker

clancy

  • breach is the continuation of the clancy album and contains most similar elements and logo from this era
gilded anchor
cloud lynx
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Zane Lowe interview

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from Trench era

gilded anchor
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Oh ok cool I need to go watch those, thanks!

cloud lynx
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Zane Lowe joins twenty one pilots’ Tyler Joseph for a rare interview in his home studio to discuss the duo’s hiatus and early success, spirituality, and battling personal demons. Stream 'Trench' on Apple Music: http://apple.co/B1twentyonepilots
Hear more Zane Lowe on Apple Music: http://apple.co/B1ZaneLowe

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he also mentions overcompensation in it, mostly referring to the music

gilded anchor
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Tysm!

brazen leaf
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11 days

karmic lake
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Happy the contract month chat catvibe

cloud lynx
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and don't forget to check the door, and close the window, and pull the blinds

cloud lynx
tender musk
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i want more analog horror marketing starting tomorrow pls

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it'd also be so cool if the album itself was kinda ominous/creepy with the soundscape during some of the songs

modern atlas
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What if the blurryface tweets relate to DOYOUFEEFATHOME

dark ermine
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Hi guys

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We’re officially in the new era month

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And we were right since a year ago 🄲

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I was thinking tho…Breach is literally a new album so…why they specifically used the phrase ā€œTrack 13 of Clancyā€ referring to Paladin Strait, when the MV dropped a year ago? Idk, I initially thought it was a way to say ā€œit’s not the last track of the albumā€ but now it doesn’t make much sense

olive plume
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i wonder if it was possible they were intending this to be an extended deluxe edition of clancy or a clancy part 2, since we got that clancy’s ultimate/final chapter tease at the first cbus FPE, but maybe something changed and they just decided to make it have its own title

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because i feel like they wouldn’t exactly lie about clancy being the last lore album. at that present moment in time, it very well could be the truth, given what info they had, but something changed? i’m not sure

tender musk
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i think it is because clancy and breach are part 1 and 2 in a way

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i imagine at some point they'll release clancy and breach together, so paladin strait would end up as track 13, not the end of the double album's story

olive plume
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i’ve gotten in such a habit of playing the line immediately after paladin strait so it’s gonna be a jarring experience to hear something totally new after it now

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i’m so excited heeheegiggle

lean mango
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I think it is going to continue to work tbh, I really think The Line fits super well with the lore in that moment after Paladin and before everything continues

stark fiber
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he prob just didn't know what he wanted to do with them at the time

lean mango
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It's possible, though I imagine an artist like Tyler would rarely finish songs that old... he's always evolving and changing his style and finding new ways of expressing himself, I get the feeling that in general he'd usually be on to the new thing. With some exceptions, of course, since we have examples of songs like Trees and Goner, but those both were probably only like 4 years old when they got released as opposed to the 7-ish of anything started in 2018

stark fiber
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yeah thats very true. i can also see maybe an idea Tyler came up with in like 2019 but decided not to finish cause he thought the song didn't have potential, but he comes back to it later and realizes that it may have potential. theres a lot of different scenarios that could be the case. im just glad Tyler writes music in general

limber jasper
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Happy pride month and the contract release month.

gilded anchor
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I’m (obviously) not on Tyler’s level of songwriting (lol!) and can’t speak for him, but I will still come back to ideas of mine that are multiple years old if I think there’s potential that I haven’t unlocked. It feels really natural when I have a half baked idea to constantly have my antenna up for where I could use it. I won’t be surprised if he’s the same way but idk obviously. Except I have heard a lot of Trench was written on ERS tour.

lean mango
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Well from what we know of his work style, he tends to move on from ideas pretty quickly if he can't get them to work, which is part of the reason they don't have much unreleased music usually

cloud lynx
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But he'd have to have worked on those two albums at least since after SAI released

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To pull off two entire albums in two years

lean mango
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I think it depends on a lot of factors, but I don't think it's impossible that both albums were written in the space since SAI especially considering it wasn't a normal cycle. Also probably depends on how inspired he was feeling

cloud lynx
lean mango
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Overcompensate was confirmed to have started a year ago afaik

cloud lynx
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hm

lean mango
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The Craving may have been a bit longer

cloud lynx
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at least he had the idea of overcompensation since 2019

lean mango
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But most of Clancy was written/produced in the year before its release, so I imagine most of Breach was written in the time between SAI and then

cloud lynx
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hm that'd make sense

maiden onyx
gilded anchor
gilded anchor
modern atlas
lean mango
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No, Tyler has said they don't

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just a couple here and there

gilded anchor
teal compass
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will look for a link for this but ik tylers said for trench they didnt have a single song left over that didnt make the cut, the only songs they worked on for it are the ones that are on the album

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off the top of my head i dont remember specific mentions for other albums but there might be some

gilded anchor
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Gotcha. I was picturing more songs/ideas that were never produced but that’s actually really interesting that they didn’t have any produced songs that didn’t make Trench. Like if they kept following that pattern, then the fact that Navigating and Next Semester (iirc) almost didn’t get kept really hints at them almost being on Breach which really hints that Breach won’t be a huge departure sonically from Clancy which means it’s a #1213244361320439828 lol

lean mango
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(With the context of Breach I think that's likely still true, just applies to leftovers after Clancy and Breach)

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And then separately he mentioned that they almost never finish songs they aren't completely happy with early on, they leave them in the writing phase

wise sparrow
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Patiently waiting for Blurryface to grace us with another horrifying tweet

jagged fiber
wise sparrow
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I have a feeling that necromancers (outside/out sight??)
and I’m just trying to stay quiet????

brazen leaf
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another video

trim bough
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Hi! Necromancers? Is that the word? I cant understand

wise sparrow
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It sounds like he is referring to the bishops as necromancers here, at least from my assumption!

brazen leaf
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I have a feeling that necromancer is outside and I’m trying to stay quiet

wise sparrow
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It has to be lyrics at this point.

brazen leaf
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yh

boreal portal
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WHAT HE MEAN BY DAT GNG

karmic lake
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I have just woken up and I moved so fast and I got a screen recording of it lol

formal herald
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These BF posts are downright chilling.

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10 days guys!

boreal portal
cloud lynx
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guys i am wheezing he rly doesn't work on weekends

karmic lake
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also it’s pictures from tour and doubt demo during London night 2 not new pictures this time and it turns red at the end

brazen leaf
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yh

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im so hypedddd

formal herald
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It seems like the tables are turned. BF seems to be pretty scared.

brazen leaf
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THESE LYRICS r so creepy but also so good

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also the fact that they r using tour pics from london is interesting, shows blurry was in control?

boreal portal
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lyrics ?

brazen leaf
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they probably are lyrics for the contract

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thats what we're theorising anyway

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I check the doors
check the windows
then pull the blinds
I check the clock wondering what he will pull this time
I have a feeling that the necromancer's outside, and i'm just trying to stay quiet

rain birch
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at this point we will get all the lyrics b4 we hear the song bruh😭

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i’m gettin vignette vibe from this lyrics

wise sparrow
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Clip 1 didn’t have the projector clicks, clip 2 did, now clip 3 included a red frame. I wonder if more frames turn red as we get closer to the release

formal herald
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I’m feeling a little doubtful about the theory that these are lyrics. That being said, I’m fully prepared to be wrong.

wise sparrow
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I completely get that, there’s no rhythm or flow to these phrases but Blurryface has been known to leak so who really knows

cloud lynx
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in a very intense way

cloud lynx
gilded cape
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pull the blinds

odd cargo
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guys i don't think we're getting a double album atp

cloud lynx
brazen leaf
bright tinsel
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But this third one just feels like dialogue.

graceful hill
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I think it's just text to sprech

shadow cipherBOT
cloud lynx
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GUYS???

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and they reposted the Blurryface video from today but on the band's account
but deleted it immediately

bright tinsel
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I want to know the importance of the red frames. Why did they change between the videos?

stuck frigate
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Its not a skull, its the necromancer

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This image i mean

cloud lynx
stuck frigate
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No clue

teal compass
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the citizens don’t know the bishops seize bodies so Clancy is the only person they know of that has brought people back from the dead, him being the necromancer makes the most sense to me

safe zodiac
stuck frigate
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Is the necromancer clancy’s new name maybe šŸ‘€

pallid gazelle
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