#Double Album Confirmed
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Haha, maybe it is purely style
don't wallet chains connect on both ends though? this one seemingly has one clip, the other end is blackened
unless it just blends with his pants
I think he's letting it dangle with the stole just because it looks cool.
Tyler also had a silver wallet chain in some of the Clancy promo shoots -
Oh dang! So yeah maybe it is purely a style thing
I feel like every aspect of tylers lore outfits have meaning though, the stole, jacket, mask, tape, red socks are all very significant
Could be! We still don't know the meaning of the stole.
I have a theory on the meaning of the mask, but I'm not sure if other people would agree on it.
Someone said that the cord reminded them of a dog leash
Death inspires me like a dog inspires a rabbit
Thats what I think of when it comes to that atp
woah
if Clancy is playing/producing rebellious music it wouldn't make much sense for Blurryface to tease it
no?
I'm not sure. Maybe Blurry is just trying to appear in control.
I added this to theories, but it got lost, but the Blurryface video is literally snippets from the tĆøp video posted an hour before the tweet for The Contract. The audioās purpose is unknown, but sounds like ā[I] check[ed] the door[s], check[ed] the window[s], and pull[ed] the blind[s]ā and the ending also sounds like āfill the blanksā. This can be linked to a few songs like RITN, Not Today, and others saying Redecorate. The bishop behind Josh in the RITN video has always been there. Not sure what anyone wants to do with the info, but itās there lol
it is confusing
I have a few theories, one that started ages ago that keeps evolving, and Iāve been keeping my own tabs on things.
maybe clancy and blurry are still fighting for jurisdiction?
I might make my own thread with details of my theory because itās a lot lol
i honestly dont know it points to being rebellious but blurry is teasing it so im so confused
āI heard an echo from his secret hideaway
he mustāve forgot to close his doorā
Its definitely going to be a HEAVY song from the way Tyler was moving around in the teaser
ooooo i like this
it looked like he was rapping
He was headbanging with flashing lights going off.
my guess is a hds callback for the final album
with the lights and movement,
seems like the most intense we've seen him in a mv
hoty
It reminded me heavily of the verse of Next Semester, where he moves his head away from the microphone, then brings it back for the note-bending lyrics.
oh yeah true, but this is up to a similar amount, which gets me exicted
yes very fair
I am hoping for this tbh
"Can't feel my legs, / might suffocate."
i think Breach will be way more intense in general than Clancy
Clancy had some punk/rock stuff but Breach might go even harder
cause Iām not a massive fan of hds, but thatās mostly due to Tylerās lack of rapping skill at the time - I feel like if he tried a similar thing now heād be able to pull it off MUCH more effectively, not to mention the much higher production value they have now and Tylerās voice/performance style maturing
imagine they go full nu metal
The live versions of HDS from Takeover Tour - present are far better than the original.
yes agreed
the writing on the rap verses is still lackluster tho as that is one thing which doesnāt change show to show
I agree, the flow is good but - similarly to most of Bluryface - the lyrics feel a little immature.
āgangsters donāt cryā and āthis is not rap, this is not hip-hop - just another attempt to make the voices stopā make me die of cringe Iām ngl
"I wasn't raised in the hood" š
different song but yeah thatās a garbage line
I know, I just thought it was funny to mention.
itās one of the many reasons why Lane Boy is one of, if not my least favourite tĆøp song
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yeah no prob
Lane boy live is okay tbh
tho yeah it doesn't make the lyrics less cringy
yeah they can make any song work live tbh
same boat for those of us who are NF fans, he has some stinkers but at a live show they always go hard regardless
even RAB songs lol
So did anyone check the doors and the windows and fold the blinds already?
I thought it had something to do with song lyrics maybe.
Also I am wondering why he only says "check the doors" and "check the windows" once and says "fold the blinds" five times - it seems to be important! (Or is it a code 1-1-5?)
i've seen people make parallels with how Dema citizens do close the windows when the Banditos arrive
might be Dema making some kind of warning
oo true
it could mean the Banditos are breaching through Dema, again
this band istg 
could also be Nico playing with Clancy's mind
(and with us)
(cuz we're breaching our pants rn)
Takeover Tour Lane Boy >>>
Those guitars and the DNB-esque buildup really make it great.
And why is the Blurryface video rotated? Looks like "west is up" nowš«£
just watched the Twitter video
and... yeah, at least The Contract seems to go very hard
could be rap-rock?
Car Radio MTV vibes, perhaps?
omgggg please
yes pls
if thats the case
IKR!
ima go to heaven
music heaven actually
i clearly think MTV Unplugged was them experimenting with new styles
and like, not just for fun
every time i go back to mtv unplugged im soo impressed by how they did that
in general i feel like theyāre so good at reimagining their songs and in some cases making them better..
the unplugged thing was amazing since it was experimenting throughout all of it, not gonna lie
i thought it was like a "teaser" for the direction they're taking sonically
i wasn't so wrong
Clancy has some rock vibes indeed
also Stressed Out MTV => RiTN?
definitely shows their ability to go to different genres
next semester was more punk
Next Semester, Navigating, and ATRoFD are all matches, but they (for the most part) don't fully commit to the heavy vibes.
and i love it
Tyler seems to be screaming in their latest video where they tease The Contract at the end
I love that this went from being a niche opinion, to now a consensus of the fanbase. š
or at least banging his head, and also rapping/singing rapidly?
this was what i was thinking about.. while i was rewatching that..
i think the contract could be a full rap song as well
from the footage weāve seen
or like HDS vibes.
imagine rap with screaming or even rock influences
i hope
mixed with HDS vibes
i want rock vibes on this album

heavy bass
the ultimate TOP song
i would fucking love that.
since i am sick free now finally i can fucking scream MY LUNGS OUT AGAIN.
oh yeah totally
i mean
OC to NS
Overcompensate has alt-rock elements, but it's not super heavy.
that's such a whiplash
currently coming down with a sickness š¤
damn..
i hope you get better..
Now I know itās just visual but I think there is screaming in the contract
Of some sort
agreed
Based on that little teaser
Thank you! Taking lots of Vitamin C so hopefully that helps
Iām just saying yāall better be prepared because this is without a doubt their darkest album
I donāt think there is a happy ending
i hope so
i am fully here for a dark album
oh yeah that shit helps alot, beacuse that helped me in a long shot.
Well Iāve been saying this since scaled and icy
And then I heard shy away and was like
clancy didnāt rlly commit to gritty or dark vibes which iām ok with but now is the time for real heavy shit
SAI was pretty dark lyrically tbh
Somewhat
But they are gonna be straight forward with the dark shit
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imo the way theyāre marketing the album shows full confidence in what they have
it feels special
idk
Agreed. Same with SAI, Clancy had the undertones but stayed relatively...light-hearted? It definitely has its downers, but then you also got Vignette or Lavish lol.
something about it feels very special
I wanna see the track list
yeah
I wanna know what the last song is titled
Also
I wonder if they'll try to hide the tracklist longer this time.
The BF shit being more horror/scary further pushes the undertone of the album
Very dark
I honestly donāt mind what vibe they bring, so long as they make it sonically cohesive throughout like Trench did. I feel like Clancy is so diverse that it doesnāt work necessarily as well as it should
agreed, i love clancy but its very diverse
and like
definitely doesnāt have a cohesive sound
or vibe
wdym
Vignette is (lyrically) one of the darkest songs in the whole album
Still canāt believe that Clancy sing weāre made on a baritone ukulele š¤£
NS has no guitars
Thatās all ukuleleās
I hope soooo
I disagree actually, despite going all over the place in genre, clancy ties together across the whole album through the elements, specific sounds, and instruments used in the music
Yesss I hope they do more of this
i already knew that when i first heared the song beacuse i could hear it.
they're so creative lol
it definitely ties together with its themes and writing but it doesnāt have a cohesive sound like trench
its fucking amazing
Or surprise Tyler whips out his guitar skills from the summer he taught himself to play guitar hehe
pure ass ukulele punk
i still love clancy itās my 3rd favourite top album probably
hells yeahh
he already did that a bit with Clancy but yeah, we need more upfront guitar yk
less drowned in the background
I think it does,
listen to the detuned synths, the baritone uke, the synth strings, they're all used in a very specific way across all the tracks,
plus it has a more stripped back lighter sound
Wait fr where ??
true i guess it does have a light sound across the entire album ur right
I thought that was bass
Crazyyyy I gotta re listen now
It's bad mixing. Just listen to the instrumental.
LMAOO
YEAH WE ARE FUCKED
Perish
Shortly
Perish
LMAOOO
bruh š
Navigating's instrumental has like 4 layers of guitars.
Not counting the bass.
oh shit
But the vocals are mixed so high that they drown out the guitars.
Donāt come for Paul Meanyās mixing thatās pookie
In particular, there's this one riff on the last chorus that I adore, but it's tough to hear without surround sound.
Mmmm Iāll have to try that
real
i legit listened to all of clancy on my surround sound system in my living room
Okay, it's not bad mixing, it's just a style I didn't enjoy..75% of the album has the vocals mixed way too high.
the blurryface video genuinely had me so scared like ummm im barricading my doors if im in dema
I've watched all of Paul's videos and love him as a producer.
paul meany is so good
And kinda shows the side of Tyler when heās making music and where his head is at
does atrofd have guitar too ? or is that all bass
i love his production insights
i'll say it was nuts
Not sure I donāt think he did a video on that one
See! It hits different.
It does in the first verses.
man the production paul did on trench is still so crazy
I hear you itās just a difference in preferences for sure I really like it I hate when the vocals are hard to distinguish from everything else
i know! ima be doing it when breach comes out
but 100% ima do it when the contract releases
Alright, since you guys might be curious, I actually made a list of Clancy songs with guitar.
trench is made for high volume headphone listening i discover new sounds and effects every time i listen to it
the texture and atmosphere of that album is the biggest thing i've been missing,
the sound of trench had so many layers and knew exactly when to pull back out of the heaviness into something more atmospheric
agreed
AAAAAAAAA
for real, every progression felt natural and earned
June 12th canāt come faster
The whole bit about the blue reminds me of the recent post with all the blue pictures from the tour
one thing i also love about trench is songs like cut my lip and the hype, sections of the song really focusing on the instrumental and the vibe of the beat
with no vocals
like the perfectly dragged out outros and intros
actually I think snap back really managed to capture the trench production feel
Hmmm I can see what youāre saying in a way
despite having a different vibe/sound, it had the same kind of building and layering and structure
LIST OF CLANCY SONGS WITH GUITAR:
- Overcompensate (last chorus, dissonant guitar -> Dolby Atmos makes it easier to hear)
- Next Semester - except not really, those are just pitched ukes...
- Midwest Indigo - guitar riff before / during / after the bridge.
- Routines In The Night - has a very subtle "plum plum plum" muted rythmn guitar going throughout the song.
- Vignette - "It's a tribute to zombies" section.
- Navigating - The whole song!
- Snap Back - there's a plucking at either a guitar or uke after the 2nd or 3rd time he says "I gotta Snap Back".
- Oldies Station - has very subtle rythmn guitars during the bridge/ outro
- ATRoFD - "So please, keep it in mind..." and "Just keep your plans..."
Ok so I just realized
We get the contract exactly 2 weeks from today
So Iām guessing weāll get something more next Thursday
And then be drip fed more teasers the week of the 12th
And then kaboom
New song and MV
Snap Back feels like the Neon Gravestones of Clancy
sound wise
Just popping in to say I love Clancy's mixing, and I do think it's a cohesive style and album
Someone made a good point
What if BF leaks the song early
Itās not far fetched
I remember tweaking when BF leaked the bf album
The only thing I don't like as well is how loud it's mastered, usually only -5 to -7 LUFS
And then the mv on the 12th
Same
I do too, It does what it's going for so well, and is one of their best albums alongside trench imo
But I am really hoping for some darker sounds to close off the story y'know?
Are we thinking similar to what happened with the Paladin Strait video ?
Not really because that was like a mini teaser imo
I feel like a leak from bf isnāt far fetched either
Also Tyler is just as excited as us
It sounds great and accomplishes its goal...I just wanted more focus on those awesome instrumentals.
if blurryface leaks anything early, i'm thinking it'll be like the next semester snippet the band posted,
a short teaser filmed from a weird angle
with actual audio from the song this time
Idk if I'd call that a leak, just another teaser from Blurry's account
Not the same as when he actually released songs or the album early
mm true
praying itās heavy
damn i never heard the other guitars except for Navigating
and Snap Back
well, also Midwest Indigo
Start fresh next semester šÆ
i am ready to disect the fuck of the contract when it comes out
13 days
My theory is Clancy and Blurryface agree to coexist (i.e. a Contract), but the Banditos and TB win on the ground and TB lights up Dema, forcing Clancy's hand
Yeh I feel like the direction the stories going in, Clancy is getting corrupted or being consumed by the darkness of Dema to some extent and so torchbearer is going to do something to get Clancy back on track and he will end up having a more crucial role.
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NEW BLURRYFACE TWEET šØšØšØ
I COULDNT SEE IT, WHAT WAS IT
"I check the lock, I check the lock, wondering what he will pull this time" from what I can hear
Heās scaring me šš
Is there Morse code in the lights/clicking?
IM SO HYPEDDD
I love the fact that this is an initial reaction
I WASN'T EXPECTING ANOTHER BLURRY TWEET
Daily blurryface tweets is crazy
i cant wait 13 days omg now im so hyped
Daily Blurryface tweets make me think the song might leak soon
breach is a horror album at this point mannn
im so excited
this is so creepy
the contract could literally be a process of clancy signing a contract or smth
his bishop contract maybe
the lyrics sound like they're securing a room or smth
and then the keyboard noises
a typewriter
I was just about to say that. I feel like Blurryface might give us a leak, even if just a snippet.
Ooooh I hope these tweets are daily this is fire
daily and maybe the day before we got a weird distorted, leaked version of the song
probably the music video for The Contract
the ppl that go out of their way to leak songs are not real fans. i really hope it doesn't leak
imagine his kids ask him to do smth and tyler's like hold on guys i just need to post this horror video on my roleplay account
also this is random but
i think the only teaser they did for overcompensate was at the end of i am clancy?
holy yapping bruh
this rollout is reminding me so much of trench
how am i yapping? i said 1 thing š
just wait until dmaorg updates
if you are hoping the song leaks, you're part of the problem
they need to bring back an era spoilers channel
in case it leaks
i am not looking to be spoiled this time
yes i am!
same š
that's actually sad. i feel bad for you and your mindset
crazy
TF HAPPENED I WAS ASLEEP
blurry tweet 2
u say that about the band that literally leaked their whole album themselves in 2015
also the band that jokingly reacts about leaks (cuz i promise they aren't actually mad š )
its a different story if its the band itself that leakd it cause its their song. but other ppl that that try to leak it is just wtf
also the band that literally did listening parties, kinda encouraging leaks (as it is inevitable people will record)
its not a leak if its something the band is involved with
why do i feel like the number of fingers they're holding up in their new video is also a code lmao
still leaks don't rly matter for the band lol
they don't harm them
if u don't like leaks then just don't listen to them
random ppl leaking the song ruins the experience for ppl that are trying so hard to not listen
but it ruins the experience for fans
some ppl cant control themselves which is why its better if no one leaks it. why is this an argument š
leaks are gonna happen anyway
and im shaming the ppl that leak it/promoting the leak
if it leaks, keep it to yourself. dont tell other ppl
its not a problem if you listen to the leak, thats still the leakers fault. it only becomes your fault if your posting about the leak. i even hate ppl posting saying to avoid the leak cause then ppl who didn't wanna know that it leaked, knows now. just dont post or tell anyone. keep it to yourself
you wouldnāt survive a day in a hiphop community š¤£
-# this is not rap this is not hiphop
its a little different but yeah š
i feel bad abt listening to a whole leaked album but loose tracks idgaf
when ken carson had his album leak like 3 dsys early i waited
same with clancy
but like ill listen to ken leaks
that was so ass bruh
untiljapan album just leaked
crazy album u should tap into @worldly steeple
good thing the majority of the tĆøp fan base isnt into the mainstream hip hop community
the humble tyler joseph while discussing the genre of his music during heavydirtysoul:
If it werenāt for the leaks we wouldāve never gotten the balloon leaking on the live stream! šš in all fairness, the only leak thatās acceptable in my eyes are the ones that come from the DEMA.org website (Paladin desaturated music video)
tbh, listening to leaks is a very personal thing, some people hate it, some people like it. just donāt share leaks with people who donāt want them. it is very easy to respect that boundary
but dont hate ppl who listen to leaks bc it isnt that serious
that shit was on twitter for a while i think š
i don't hate ppl that listen to leaks, i hate ppl that share them online
and reposts the leaks
they SHOULD put spoiler warnings hopefully, but mostly just avoid twitter for certain if there are known leaks and you dont want them
we need to run a gb for breach, to piss that guy off specifically
breach era unheard
carti 9k gb was diabolical
hell no ion need no uzi leaks this year
we had 500 leaks
there is a ton yeah
i just think not posting it at all would be better. they should just keep it to themselves
then again uzi leaks are bad because doesn't he keep the shit locked up after
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his fucking song selection so ass bruh
wtf was ea2
the nitrous fucked him up too hard
dude forever young was so good n he scrapped the album to drop dogshit
why
bro THERES so mUch going on that i am overwhelmed holy fuck
i was about to keep doing my millionth zonjillion playthrough of kh3 again
im gonna be so sad when this all ends
Yeah lore stuff is cool but I genuinely just want normal roll outs
Think about it
They havenāt had a normal rollout since vessel
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This is completely opinionated, but Iām getting to the age where shit is just so busy that keeping tabs on this especially during the semester was tough.
thank you for explaining how i feel
No problem dude
Oh the new BF video reversed sounds like they may drop breach early
for sure
No promises and donāt quote me on that
IINNNNSANNNNNITYYYY!!!!!!
What does it allegedly say
yg
yh
Lemme find it
Let me know what you think
I hear āout there nowā
Mackle this is just a word of encouragement that if I can get my newbie rear into verified then you too, the "creator" for all intents and purposes of the double album theory, can definitely get in š¤ Keep trying, See you there!!
With all this activity happening right now you might be right
Itād be odd for all of this to happen so fast when itās still 2 weeks away
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yhh
i do feel like Blurryface is either gonna leak smth again
or a twist is gonna happen
cuz like why are they teasing it so much and doing all that while it's only coming out June 12th
I wonder if he will continue tweeting the following days
they probably also have to work around the tribute album thing too which is also coming out in June. could explain the song announcement being 3 weeks in advance so if they keep promoting it for all this time until the release, the new song will be on everyone's mind more than the tribute album (i still bought the tribute album lol)
they kinda did overshadow the tribute album announcement tho lol with the eye closing, BFX posts
i dont think they'll move for anything else
they havent even mentioned the tribute album officially
wait nvm i realise what ur saying
No no, leaked by Blurryface
The way Ride was
not leaked i think BF will post a rlly distorted, unclear version of the song
or a snippet
the day before
and we'll get other BF posts/videos everyday or other day leading up to the 12th
thats fine cause its associated with the band. im talking about ppl not associated with the band leaking it
The tribute album is out and it's not their thing, they can overshadow it
I think it's possible the BF posts may start to lead into an ARG we need to solve to find it
its not out yet
only set for Pre-order rn
Ah
Yea, I doubt they'll work around that, especially when they have a single coming, but they don't tend to incorporate unofficial things into their plans, based on what I've seen in the past
What I'm feeling right now is, we had absolute silence for a week
ooh like the Paladin Strait teaser (tho it might've been originally not planned)
And then now two days of posts in a row
It feels like it's building up to Blurry leaking The Contract soon, it feels like leadup to something much sooner than 2 weeks from now
Depends ofc but IDK if I expect them to do this and then go silent for another week in the middle, and I'd be surprised if they have 2 weeks of this kind of activity prepared for the leadup to one single, even if only business days
because of how much bigger the band is compared to 2015, Blurry might not leak the full song but post a like 5-20 second clip of maybe the music video with the song a bit distorted in the background
yeah exactly (I personally don't think the paladin strait teaser was planned either) but they might've taken inspiration from that and actually designed a more complex puzzle this time
agreed
the tribute album marketing has been absolutely terrible so the band probably dont want to associate with that...
or they're just too locked in lore rn
I actually have a crazy theory
also the tribute album isn't really their thing, they're focused on their own release coming up in two weeks
they probably aren't talking about it too much cause that would be a mess if they promoted both the tribute album and Breach
i can definitely see Tyler posting something tho when it drops appreciating all the artists on it
yeah
Well bear in mind that leaking the whole song can be an intended part of the promo plan. They can say June 12th but not actually have ever intended to wait that long so Blurry can "force them" to release it earlier
eh
im still expecting it to be June 12th
That's fine but I'm just proposing a possibility
Whether it's likely or not, I'm not sure
But we do have a precedent for Blurry leaking their music, and his activity was similar to this at the time
Yea, pretty sure that wasn't him
id say a week before then the pilots post on insta the day before to promote it more
bro yall remember when they never announced releases š
i miss that
they're so straightforward with that Breach announcement
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i'm keeping my eyelids up guys
they were with Clancy too
announcing Overcompensate a week before it dropped
Now, my crazy theory:
they've been straightforward but also so cryptic now
I think they want the general casual fanbase to know about the album, while still being able to hide cryptic clues and videos for those wanting to look deeper
What if The Contract and Breach are both meant to leak by Blurryface as part of the promo plan? There are a few things I've been thinking about.
One, the album release date isn't actually announced, they just say September. This doesn't make a lot of sense unless there's some reason they couldn't set it in stone yet, but I'm not quite buying the "not announced yet in case they have to delay it" interpretation, because they may not know if it will need to be delayed until last minute. (Also album release dates usually come months in advance so they should be able to plan ahead enough that it will rarely be necessary to delay.)
Two, Blurry's behavior and activity feels like it's leading to something sooner than 2 weeks from now. Not only that but it heavily implies bringing back aspects of the Blurryface era, where both a single and the album "leaked" via Blurryface.
Three, the first pressing edition of the album only lasts til June 12th, 3 months before the album is set to release. Yea, it could be a kind of earlybird special, but why that early?
As for why I think it's at least possible:
-Nontraditional promo strats including shadow drops are a lot more common recently, and TOP have already been kind of at the forefront of unconventional promo, and a second album in a single era can afford to take more risks.
-TOP fans always bring up the Blurryface leaks when new music is on the way. Tyler gets ideas from us, including probably the idea of a double album, so IMO it's not far-fetched that he would consider using that idea for this too. Also, we'd go absolutely crazy if it came much earlier than expected, especially if there was some ARG aspect of it
i think they wont leak full albums or songs early because it alienates and confuses general audiences
but i see what u mean
They already have before, and yea, they weren't quite as big but they still had a decent following
As much as I 100% wanna believe this why would they make the vinyl pressings ship out September 1st if the album isnt coming out with it. I think this is cryptic promo for contract more than anything like a leak
I don't agree that it alienates the wider audience
yes exactly that's kinda what i thought/was trying to say lmao
they're so straightforward with that announcement, but then we get silence, and now Blurryface horror stuff
I alr got my shipping details for my vinyl I do completely understand your point but I don't think they'd just change it on the fly I think FPE buyers will get like a digital remains type of haul
A lot of artists do shadowdrops recently, they always make big waves. Look at Kendrick's last album for example. There's not a lot of difference between not annoucing it at all and then dropping it vs. dropping it early for someone who isn't that invested in this. They'll just hear about it when it's out and check it out
I mean yea but why would they drop the album super early and have people who bought the "first pressing edition" get it months later
What details, like, date it's meant to ship?
September 5th for me
same
They'd probably move it up if they did this. Not really any reason they can't do that
I mean there is tho lol, I don't see a world where the people who bought the first pressing get it months later
they could update the date on the shop
I genuinely wouldn't understand that especially since I alr have my shipping details in place
That's what I'm saying, if they did this they'd just update the date and ship much earlier
Now I'm drowning in logistics
It shouldn't cause any significant issues to do so, they just send out an email saying it's shipping earlier
this would all be planned
they wouldnt put shipping dates out if they planned to shadow drop earlier
if it's all planned in advance and September 5th is like a fake date, idk if it'd be that complicated logistically?
Yeah literally
... well okay u'd have to update all the people about it
Not really, if it is all planned then they don't have to change anything internally, they just have to send a quick email to a mailing list of purchasers to update people. As someone who uses promo emails a lot, that's super easy
but if it was planned they wouldnt put september 5th on the shipping details
they'd leave it blank
(i'm not saying i entirely agree with that theory or believe in it btw, i'm kinda just playing the devil's advocate here lol)
I jus like already have all my details idk why they'd jus give it too you earlier. Like I said I think the FPE drop is gonna be nothing more than a digital remains type of haul that's the only reason there's a special version to buy until contract comes out. And like @brazen leaf said they wouldnt give us shipping details to begin with if it's something they were planning to do
Depends on how shipped stuff usually functions there. It could be the case that the system is not set up to let people order stuff without a date
Which could explain why the release date is in shipping details but not announced officially
I preordered several and several vinyls never got a shipping date until the albums release date was finalized I'ma jus go off of that
I always have
I like your theory but it jus doesn't add up
If there wasn't a FPE drop I'd be in your board 100%
It does lol, the hurdles you're seeing are very tiny things that are easy to overcome if they wanted to
hm
Not that I'm in any way sure about it, but saying it's impossible because they told people a date already doesn't make sense
Brother they sold MILLIONs of copies of FPE I would be at the very least a hassle to change the release date for everyone who got the dates
No, it's super easy. Again, I have music promo experience, all they need to do is send out an email to all buyers and ship it early. Literally one click
Yessss
Also I'll say again, I'm not saying I believe this theory
But the assertion that it's impossible because of one case where they told people a date just isn't true
Brother your musical promo experience is great and all but we are literally talking about 100s of millions of people who all literally have the same exact album date on when they're supposed to receive an album. That is 100% going to be difficult to have every single person be in the same page. I'd love to have your theory prove me wrong for sure because it's not a horrible theory just very very very unlikely especially since mines already processed
I think you overestimate how much that matters
Then tell me albums that you preordered that dropped months earlier cuz I'll wait
Kendrick you couldn't preorder bc it wasn't announced š
Ok, now we're strawmanning? Fine, you win I guess
There's no winning in this argument brother I'm jus saying there really isn't logic besides an opinion. I'd love for sure to have your theory prove me wrong tho deadass
You're right that there's no winning, once you start steamrolling and misrepresenting the people who disagree with you continuing it is pointless
Your using a logical fallacy by saying other albums you know dropped like that. Doesn't make your argument valid your just reaching, I legitimately have proof that it tells me when this album is going to arrive in my door. That's logic over opinion
That's not what a strawman is lol
It's misconstruing a point to make yours better when did I do so?
Iāve lowkey given up on the emoji code. Iām not the best with codes but I can give a 4 hour in depth presentation on the lore LMAO
A strawman is falsely claiming the other person is making an argument that they're not to make it easier to refute. In this case, you say I claimed that other preorderable albums have dropped much earlier, which I never said
Hm
But okay
Have a good day your reaching my friend
Read what I actually said
Did I mention the shadowdrops being possible to preorder?
(no, I didn't)
But you can't pull strawman on me when I legitimately went off your argument so I'm confused where this is even going for you
This is not the place for this kind of conversation
Okie dokie
Please keep it to the double album theory and be nice to each other
You didn't read, and then you tried to misrepresent what I said
Yea, I was talking about the double album theory
Again like I said I hope your theory is right, I apologize if it frustrated you but I legitimately went off of what you were saying
Have a good day bro
But I guess we can't talk theories here without someone coming in and shutting it down, responding to every instance of it being mentioned by saying why it's definitely impossible and shouldn't even be considered
Always have to have the last word huh?
I'm playing devils advocate for a theory that's unlikely that's all my friend I genuinely apologize it it came off as rude
Dude..
they were able to delay the clancy release by a weekāand they announced that relatively close to the release date too. if they wanted to move breachās date up sooner (or later
), they absolutely can
and some people still got their clancy copies on the original release date due to some warehouses not realizing/paying enough attention/technicalities so the same thing could happen here
i wouldnāt rule it out as a possibility because they have changed release dates before even with the numerous amounts of preorders
my honest opinion is that Breach coming out earlier feels a bit like a stretch
i don't think it's very likely to happen
but it's clearly not strictly impossible lol
And if the internal date was always earlier then they could even do it without the risk of some warehouses not getting the memo
exactly
i know their webstore is showing september 5th but i think thereās a reason they havenāt announced a firm date yet. and iām not saying itās because of possible leaks⦠but⦠
weāre supposed to have system-wide training at work sometime in september so i hope it doesnāt fall on this album release 
Oof, hopefully not
i dont think its that much to think about. they probably didn't announce a date yet cause artists dont really announce a new album 4 months in advance. i guarantee you the official date and tracklist will drop when The Contract drops. release dates of albums are usually announced 3 months or less in advance
Check DMās
I also think that there will be a little puzzle to access the contract mv early
Similar with how they just did the clock thing
Puzzle for contract teaser like paladins with digital
A censored snippet, like Paladin Strait? Maybe?
What if Blurryface leaks a different song? While we're waiting on The Contract, which is what the band wants us to think about, Blurry interferes and gets ahead of that release with something else?
That's extremely far-fetched though.
"I am Blurryface" video 
IM NOT HOME
IS ANYONE LISTENING TO ME
THE BLURRYFACE VIDEOS ARE LYRICS OF IM NOT HOME. NOT THE CONTRACT.

yeah thatās what i was thinking the lyrics seem more fitting
I have a good feeling we are not waiting 2 weeks
At the rate they are doing all this
I was expecting all this shit to start popping off next week
Iām not trusting any dates right now
Album is a bit far fetched however this seems to have been done for a minute now
I'm not trusting that I'm Not Home is actually a thing til we have 100% confirmation of it honestly
I think these lyrics make sense in the context of a contract too, potentially
either secretive signing of something, or breaching the contract and then shutting people out to avoid consequences
(I still like the theory that the contract is about the TB agreement breach, however a Bishop contract would be such an effective setup for an album, so I could see that happening)
if the next tease has something to the effect of "step up for me" then i might believe it
but it also just sounds to me like hes complaining about electricity prices
this wouldnāt make sense
they keep saying itās all about the contract etc they wouldnāt tease a completely different song
they wouldnāt, but blurryface on the other handā¦.š
The Contract could (maybe) be reusing stuff from I'm Not Home, maybe being a finalized version of it?
the Blurryface videos had home lexicon
Kinda like how a part of Silver-Weighted Sun became Overcompensate
We also have "Do you feel (feef) at home" from the shirts i believe
We still don't know where this comes from, but it sounds more like a lyric than a title, maybe it's from The Contract? It'd make sense from what we're getting recently, the home vocab
Exactly what @maiden onyx said
Bro
@sour panther can you please remove slow mode
It canāt be that bad
theory-forum channels aren't supposed to hold the same conversation flow as other faster paced channels. sorry but it's the standard
If this is just your new rule, sorry but I don't see the point of it...? It's just annoying
I mean these forum threads aren't usually as active as #theories or #verified-theorists
You just justified my point. Sorry if I seemed rude with this btw
Isn't the point of slowmode to... slow down channels with a lot of activity?
(Not trying to argue or anything)
It's alright, thank you
We could lower it later but for now, we just don't want them to become as fast paced like a general channel
I see I see
makes no sense lol
there's like 10 of us that talk here, it never gets busy, 10seconds is a bit silly
#theories should have a slowmode if anything
^
idm the slowmode here personally but yeah I feel like theories does need one lol
GUYS
breach got announced, hella cool. did yall see?
I NEED ARG SHIT CMON BLURRY GUY
Whattt, double album confirmed!?!?
Double album confirmed, WHAT!? Nah you gotta show some proof we aināt fallin for that
the double album is NOT happening!!! Y'all are delulu!! There's no proof!!
WOAH
IT LOOKS LIKE ITS GONNA BE TRENCH 2
No you canāt be in the double album thread if youāre a denier!!! Weāre not delulu!!! š š š
iit definetely is gonna be trench 2 tho on a srs note i do think the breach
enormous sarcasm warning
album is gonna be rench 2
ranch 2
TRENCH 2
that's definitely fake...
bright yellow??? a stock photo of a vulture?
be serious guys, you can't believe this is real
and the tracklist on the cover?? 
I think so and Iām so excited. If itās true that this was what they started working on after trench, and SAI and Clancy were side projects to build the world and release more music⦠then the main attraction of 7 years in the making is gonna be so good
Too blurry to tell anything I wouldnāt get your hopes up
I think when they restarted working on Breach/Clancy, maybe they decided to split it up i guess, and they took the time to make more songs
Not immediately go to the end
I guess so
Which I think is better this way, cause Clancy is so good on its own two feet, but itās just not quite the special ending it shouldāve been if there wasnāt a separate album
Trench was already kinda started in 2016-2027, I wouldn't be surprised if he started writing songs for Clancy/Breach back in 2018-2019
Also Trench was meant to be lighter and softer sounding compared to Blurryface (he said it himself), Breach really sounds like it's gonna be the actual "successor" to Trench, possibly returning back to heavy sound
Clancy was just a small taste of that
I hope so!! A good mix of heavier than Trench with some satisfying truce/leave the city vibes calm parts to end the story at the end
At the same time, he also said in 2019 that he hadn't introduced yet another character (= Clancy), tho i believe it was in the same interview he talked about the "two record ideas" (one of them that we now know is SAI)
I don't know what to think
i havenāt seen anyone talk abt this yet but itās crazy how breach already has so many connections to every lore album without even having a single song out
vessel
- (kind of a stretch) breach is the only other album with two figures front and center in a similar fashion to their grandparents in vessel. like breach is immortalizing the boys through the new cover
blurryface
- same color scheme/similar outfitting
- return of character blurryface
- blurryface silhouette in album cover
trench
- assumed to be most sonically similar to breach
- breach started development partially as a response to trenchās success and been cooking ever since
- their last project also formally called āfull-length albumā
SAI
- breach was announced on SAIās anniversary which is REALLY interesting like itās going to follow up on that albumās themes
- tyler stated in an interview that redecorate is indirectly important for what theyāre creating next, being supposedly much darker
clancy
- breach is the continuation of the clancy album and contains most similar elements and logo from this era
Any chance you could easily link to that interview? I still havenāt seen it and donāt know where to look
Oh ok cool I need to go watch those, thanks!
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he also mentions overcompensation in it, mostly referring to the music
Tysm!
11 days
Happy the contract month chat 
and don't forget to check the door, and close the window, and pull the blinds
Check the clock too.
oh right, how could i forget that
i want more analog horror marketing starting tomorrow pls
it'd also be so cool if the album itself was kinda ominous/creepy with the soundscape during some of the songs
What if the blurryface tweets relate to DOYOUFEEFATHOME
Hi guys
Weāre officially in the new era month
And we were right since a year ago š„²
I was thinking thoā¦Breach is literally a new album soā¦why they specifically used the phrase āTrack 13 of Clancyā referring to Paladin Strait, when the MV dropped a year ago? Idk, I initially thought it was a way to say āitās not the last track of the albumā but now it doesnāt make much sense
i wonder if it was possible they were intending this to be an extended deluxe edition of clancy or a clancy part 2, since we got that clancyās ultimate/final chapter tease at the first cbus FPE, but maybe something changed and they just decided to make it have its own title
because i feel like they wouldnāt exactly lie about clancy being the last lore album. at that present moment in time, it very well could be the truth, given what info they had, but something changed? iām not sure
i think it is because clancy and breach are part 1 and 2 in a way
i imagine at some point they'll release clancy and breach together, so paladin strait would end up as track 13, not the end of the double album's story
iāve gotten in such a habit of playing the line immediately after paladin strait so itās gonna be a jarring experience to hear something totally new after it now
iām so excited 
I do the same, I'm just going to keep doing that I think
I think it is going to continue to work tbh, I really think The Line fits super well with the lore in that moment after Paladin and before everything continues
oh yea 100%. with songwriters, you never really stop creating. if you have an idea you just hop right on it. especially where Tyler has his own in home studio, it makes it so much easier to put together an idea. i honestly feel like at least 3 songs from Clancy and Breach combined were ideas he came up with during Bandito Tour
he prob just didn't know what he wanted to do with them at the time
It's possible, though I imagine an artist like Tyler would rarely finish songs that old... he's always evolving and changing his style and finding new ways of expressing himself, I get the feeling that in general he'd usually be on to the new thing. With some exceptions, of course, since we have examples of songs like Trees and Goner, but those both were probably only like 4 years old when they got released as opposed to the 7-ish of anything started in 2018
yeah thats very true. i can also see maybe an idea Tyler came up with in like 2019 but decided not to finish cause he thought the song didn't have potential, but he comes back to it later and realizes that it may have potential. theres a lot of different scenarios that could be the case. im just glad Tyler writes music in general
Happy pride month and the contract release month.
Iām (obviously) not on Tylerās level of songwriting (lol!) and canāt speak for him, but I will still come back to ideas of mine that are multiple years old if I think thereās potential that I havenāt unlocked. It feels really natural when I have a half baked idea to constantly have my antenna up for where I could use it. I wonāt be surprised if heās the same way but idk obviously. Except I have heard a lot of Trench was written on ERS tour.
Well from what we know of his work style, he tends to move on from ideas pretty quickly if he can't get them to work, which is part of the reason they don't have much unreleased music usually
But he'd have to have worked on those two albums at least since after SAI released
To pull off two entire albums in two years
I think it depends on a lot of factors, but I don't think it's impossible that both albums were written in the space since SAI especially considering it wasn't a normal cycle. Also probably depends on how inspired he was feeling
But I think there's a possibility that he already started the project in 2019, writing songs, and imo Overcompensate could be one of them
Overcompensate was confirmed to have started a year ago afaik
hm
The Craving may have been a bit longer
at least he had the idea of overcompensation since 2019
But most of Clancy was written/produced in the year before its release, so I imagine most of Breach was written in the time between SAI and then
hm that'd make sense
the album would be called āclancy, breachā
Maybe thatās what he wants us to think š
But then when no one but this chat is expecting
BREACH
Triple album theory
3rd album āDemaā
Full album =
Clancy Breach Dema
that we know about. They could have tons of songs they just never mention
Link? Not cause I disagree or want to argue just cause Iām curious
will look for a link for this but ik tylers said for trench they didnt have a single song left over that didnt make the cut, the only songs they worked on for it are the ones that are on the album
off the top of my head i dont remember specific mentions for other albums but there might be some
Gotcha. I was picturing more songs/ideas that were never produced but thatās actually really interesting that they didnāt have any produced songs that didnāt make Trench. Like if they kept following that pattern, then the fact that Navigating and Next Semester (iirc) almost didnāt get kept really hints at them almost being on Breach which really hints that Breach wonāt be a huge departure sonically from Clancy which means itās a #1213244361320439828 lol
After that during this era he said they don't have many songs left over, maybe they could scrape together enough for a small EP or something
(With the context of Breach I think that's likely still true, just applies to leftovers after Clancy and Breach)
And then separately he mentioned that they almost never finish songs they aren't completely happy with early on, they leave them in the writing phase
Patiently waiting for Blurryface to grace us with another horrifying tweet
here it is
I have a feeling that necromancers (outside/out sight??)
and Iām just trying to stay quiet????
another video
Hi! Necromancers? Is that the word? I cant understand
It sounds like he is referring to the bishops as necromancers here, at least from my assumption!
I have a feeling that necromancer is outside and Iām trying to stay quiet
It has to be lyrics at this point.
yh
WHAT HE MEAN BY DAT GNG
I have just woken up and I moved so fast and I got a screen recording of it lol
omg chills is that you
guys i am wheezing he rly doesn't work on weekends
also itās pictures from tour and doubt demo during London night 2 not new pictures this time and it turns red at the end
It seems like the tables are turned. BF seems to be pretty scared.
THESE LYRICS r so creepy but also so good
also the fact that they r using tour pics from london is interesting, shows blurry was in control?
lyrics ?
they probably are lyrics for the contract
thats what we're theorising anyway
I check the doors
check the windows
then pull the blinds
I check the clock wondering what he will pull this time
I have a feeling that the necromancer's outside, and i'm just trying to stay quiet
at this point we will get all the lyrics b4 we hear the song bruhš
iām gettin vignette vibe from this lyrics
Clip 1 didnāt have the projector clicks, clip 2 did, now clip 3 included a red frame. I wonder if more frames turn red as we get closer to the release
Iām feeling a little doubtful about the theory that these are lyrics. That being said, Iām fully prepared to be wrong.
I completely get that, thereās no rhythm or flow to these phrases but Blurryface has been known to leak so who really knows
long sentence...
in one of the clips he did seem to talk quickly or almost rap for a few seconds
in a very intense way
or even shout/scream, maybe a mix of these
pull the blinds
guys i don't think we're getting a double album atp
okay okay grandpa, go get ur meds
i mean u cant really determine a flow until u hear a melody or sound, its like that for most songs
The first video had some flow to it, and maybe the second one.
But this third one just feels like dialogue.
I think it's just text to sprech
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#band ????
GUYS???
https://www.instagram.com/p/DKZ_SjANsUs
https://fxtwitter.com/twentyonepilots/status/1929585043644596563
and they reposted the Blurryface video from today but on the band's account
but deleted it immediately
Instagram too????
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I want to know the importance of the red frames. Why did they change between the videos?
This is the shape that the lighting creates on the breach album cover
Its not a skull, its the necromancer
This image i mean
but who is the necromancer omggg
No clue
the citizens donāt know the bishops seize bodies so Clancy is the only person they know of that has brought people back from the dead, him being the necromancer makes the most sense to me
Clancy
Is the necromancer clancyās new name maybe š
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