#Double Album Confirmed

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golden umbra
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Yesss I was thinking about that too
I feel like at times Clancy had punk elements to it I hope they do that a little more in breach

compact arrow
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Either take a mental note or screen shot it

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The first words in the song or mv or both of The Contract are going to be “Hello Blurryface”

golden umbra
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I think that chord at the VERY end of the Paladin Strait mv might be the intro to The Contract

cosmic oar
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I know what genre twenty one pilots are in

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'Twenty one pilots' genre

dawn kettle
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im keeping it here, itll be half sai vibes (Songs sounding like The Outside, No chances vibes with one song like Mulberry or Good day) half clancy trench vibes AND ILL COME BACK TO THIS WHEN IM RIGHT AND EVERYONE CALLED ME CRAZY ONCE AGAIN

hot stream
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I really hope Navigating live intro somehow makes it onto the album heeheegiggle

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If that’s the sound direction they’re going for then oh boy it’s going to be a wild album

golden umbra
golden umbra
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I HOPE SO

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someone in theory forum got a really clear recording of it

hot stream
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I truly am hoping so as well I just want shit to go down in this album

hot stream
dawn kettle
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i think this album will be about clancys story ending for sure, but they would leave some things out to create for a later album, think about it, we get a prequel album to the creation of dema and vialism, would be insane

golden umbra
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I can’t even imagine how good this album is gonna be this is like
The climax of the whole story
A decade of lore has led up to this

cosmic oar
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I personally think they should do something like they did in paladin strait with the minute silence of birds but increase it to like 10 minutes

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It would be so musical

dawn kettle
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also doing a prequel album we could see where the neds come from, the bishops before they were bishops, thrash the dragon before they were seized, the creation of the banditos, there is so much that they could explore after clancys story

golden umbra
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The birds are representative of something right ? I can’t remember what tbh

cosmic oar
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Not sure

dawn kettle
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we dont know if i remember

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it was added but never elaborated on, even having it removed in the mv is something

hot stream
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I really hope they saved Clancy’s marketing on this project. Clancy literally had the bare minimum

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No Zane Lowe… nothing

golden umbra
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I just remember Goner for instance has the picture with a lot of birds

hot stream
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Only the billboards

golden umbra
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I’m excited to see the merch for Breach as well

hot stream
golden umbra
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I wouldn’t be shocked if they did a book
I think that’d actually be a super smart idea

hot stream
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Exactly

olive jewel
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there should be a long documentary movie about all this

dawn kettle
# hot stream I can see them explaining all of these by releasing separate books….

could be i would buy the book, but i dont see them doing something like that, theyve shown everything either from their music, ARG's, FPE, or the livestream experience, would make more sense when clancys story is done after breach to start expanding on the lore with their next albums because there still isnt alot we know about the world, and they could also expand it to start another story with a new group of main characters and antagonists

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and if they want to close off the lore, itll be great to have a prequel album to see how things came to be in trench and get those answers to stuff within the lore, and at the end of the album the last song ends with the heavydirtysoul opening rift tying the story up in a nice little knot

hot stream
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Tbh I would love them to do that but like isn’t Breach supposed to put an end to the entire universe? That’s how they promoted

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If there were change in plans then that’s good

rain birch
golden umbra
hot stream
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It might feel underwhelming when they start putting out those side albums after Breach… I doubt many people will still be interested in those side characters or storylines by then.

dawn kettle
# hot stream It might feel underwhelming when they start putting out those side albums after ...

if closing up the lore itll just be one album that sort of just explains the backstory of stuff, like the creation of dema, vialism, "destruction" of trench (hunting neds for their horns) where neds come from, hints of thrash, things like that that will help with fleshing out the clancy story a bit more then the next albums wouldnt be lore at all, but if they were doing another story in the universe its becuase tyler would want to do it, it wouldnt matter if people were into the new story or not (were also insane so fans would most likely get into it i would never doubt tylers lore building abilities)

desert smelt
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let this album be heavier pls

cloud lynx
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side albums honestly idk

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i don't think they'd do that

shut spruce
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wdym "side albums"

cloud lynx
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idk people are talking about side albums

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and i dont see why they (the band) would even do that

dawn kettle
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it wouldnt be a side album itll be the next album of a new story

shut spruce
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i honestly think the '27 album will start a new story

graceful hill
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What just happened

cloud lynx
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self-contained

cloud lynx
mental granite
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Just crazy that we got best case scenario..
not an EP,
Not a deluxe Clancy album,
Not one more song,
Not just lore wrapping it up, but a whole full length album 🤯

wise sparrow
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Over/under on screams for breach?

desert smelt
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praying for screams

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and heavier tracks

graceful hill
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heavier in what way?

desert smelt
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musically

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gifted every strength by loathe is a good example

cloud lynx
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like at all

cloud lynx
smoky turtle
livid pine
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i need a track like levitate on this new thing. maybe two or three🙏 i’ve been fiending for another good rap song since SAI

lean mango
graceful hill
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ive been hoping for a song like that but the more i think about it idk if it fits top

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but itd be baller to hear like a scream into a breakdown about dema burning or something

desert smelt
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yeah

graceful hill
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but also i dont expect the same kind of vocals

desert smelt
graceful hill
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i dont imagine tyler doing highs and lows and mids and everything lol

hot stream
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Does Paul Meany usually get this silent? Everytime the band’s album get announced he always tended to repost immediately

clever falcon
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as long as it has a song similar to hurts like heaven by coldplay (BANGER) I'm happy

hot stream
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Or at least post it on his story

graceful hill
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if he did id certainly be welcome to it but i dont see it happening

desert smelt
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the balance between heavy and soft in jumpsuit is really what i’m hoping for breach

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there’s gotta be at least one heavy track considering this is the final battle

clever falcon
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yeah like the My Blood bass as well

desert smelt
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yeahh

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i feel like they might have their heaviest bass tone for breach

storm fable
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tbh every album for a while has had at least had one heavy-ish track,
i totally expect some heavier sounds on breach

storm fable
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it sounded so good

desert smelt
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yeah

compact trout
storm fable
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speaking of paul meany, I really hope we get more production breakdowns for breach when it's out
those always give me so much deeper appreciation for the sounds and production

hot stream
compact trout
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That's all they've done. No tracklist, no official day, no who worked on it

storm fable
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I would be a little disappointed if paul meany didn't work on it,
but surely he did, considering he even helped with the doubt demo release

hot stream
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I believe for Clancy it was the same scenario, yet Paul Meany posted it

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Same Paul Meany is a key element of the albums. He brought new stuff onto the band's table

compact trout
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I assume Paul worked on it as he said project, not album when he posted about working with them before Clancy. And he's also busy producing for another band atm

hot stream
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Oh I kinda see now why he's inactive

shut spruce
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im sure we'll know more once The Contract is out

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if Paul is listed as co-producer, then he probably worked on most of the other songs

dreamy sage
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wait so do we know if the vinyl is 1LP?

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i havent checked that yet

shut spruce
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1LP

dreamy sage
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awh

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thank you

shut spruce
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np

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sorta wish it was a 2LP

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but it'd be pricey so eh

storm fable
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How long can 1LP be? around the same length as clancy I imagine?

shut spruce
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it depends on RPM

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but 1 side is usually 22 ish so 44 in total but you can go high with as 56 (28 on both sides) but that leads to compression

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so yeah, Clancy length probably

storm fable
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trench was 2 right?

shut spruce
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ye

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and BF

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vessel was 1LP, almost the same length as Clancy actually

ivory radish
desert smelt
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true

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trench production pls

ivory radish
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The Hype is def my fav song by them for production alone

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it’s so gorgeous in every way

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the strings work unbelievably well

storm fable
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Gets me really curious what the musical themes of breach will be like, I feel like it's always something new
Trench has the dirty bass and eerie piano sounds,
SAI has it's vintage light pop inspirations
Clancy has those almost detuned synths and the baritone uke
I wonder what will tie breach together

ivory radish
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but darker

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and maybe vocal chops, could be interesting for some texture

storm fable
ivory radish
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I need some deep brass sounds

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shrill strings

storm fable
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personally I'm hoping for more piano, clancy kinda did away with the piano except for a few moments

ivory radish
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that’s fair

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I like piano additions too

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I just think stuff like trumpets and flutes and things could be very fresh

storm fable
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yeah, no matter what i'm excited for a new album with it's own musical identity,
the possibilities are endless

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there's so much they could do

ivory radish
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for real

toxic comet
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Has anyone seen this yet?

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I thought it was cool

fiery current
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it can spell icy too

teal compass
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I remember back when it was coming out we heard that next semester cost around 200k which is an absolutely insane price tag for what’s a relatively simple video using volunteers as extras, I fear some of the budget might not be coming across as obvious/might have been a bit mishandled in some of these

compact trout
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Im just ready day 1 of release to add all the sweet credits info to the discogs entry like I did for rhe vinyl variant I went with for Clancy

storm fable
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although the next semester budget makes sense to me, there was the stage and spark effects, the venue, director, and what seems like a pretty crazy camera rig

compact trout
storm fable
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and just crew costs

compact trout
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And they also had to shut a street down for an entire night. That's not cheap

storm fable
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yeah, productions like that are expensive, seems completely reasonable to me

compact trout
storm fable
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you gotta consider they had set design, wardrobe designers, camera crew, extra management, lighting, location scouting, editing, directing, camera equipment, stage equipment. all of that costs a lot of money

teal compass
compact trout
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Capped off with announcing the true end of the era

storm fable
teal compass
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Same thing with the advertising honestly, everyone’s been shitting on the label for not advertising them this era but then they blow half a mil on hashflags randomly? They’re clearly willing to fund the band with ridiculous amounts of money for promo at the drop of a hat. The amount of actual support they’re getting is likely not reflected in the final product for some other reason (which we now know is likely that they were working on two albums at once)

compact trout
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Most labels also only want like 3 or 4 music videos tops, not the entire album

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Still, if Paul's post about this project was in the middle of recording and not towards the start, they still made quality music in a speedy time

storm fable
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I wonder if they've been saving some mv budget for a long Iceland filming trip for breach heeheegiggle that's my hope

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cause I do agree, there was only like two or three mid-higher budget videos,
which was used well for those, but seemed less than previous eras
(this is not to say I didn't love the handmade low budget clancy videos, those were awesome too)

wheat gorge
storm fable
teal compass
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yeah agreed, paladin is certainly an ambitous and cool video but the fact it at times looks like a last gen video game cutscene kinda broke the immersion 😭

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all the other videos feel incredibly grounded and make the world of trench feel very real and tangible in a way they werent able to do with the cgi which makes it hard to be as wholly invested as something like the outside imo

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i do question why the cgi was even necissary given theres only like 5 seconds in the ukraine location they wouldnt be able to film in now and everything else is in iceland, probably due to time constraints with the 2 albums but given they ended up delaying the album and then delaying the video again it probably would have saved more time to shoot it on location in the long run anyway lol

maiden onyx
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i’m so happy we are getting a second album, but even if we didn’t get a second album, i still think this would’ve been the best era. we got random letters in the mail from dema hinting at the new single. we got tyler tweeting about how excited he was to show us overcompensate, joking around and experiencing the moment with us. we got a mv for every single song released this last year. we got a live stream of the band experiencing the release of the album and mvs with us in real time. we got digital remains and got to see a bunch of photographed outtakes and lyric sheets from the making of the album. we got an AMAZING show with some of the best transitions and storytelling ever from the boys. throughout the tour we also got codes and messages to decode and solve together, keeping everyone involved. we got the fpe which gave us the history of the band and we got to see so many cool things from that like the letters that were jam packed with lore and codes. we are getting a clancy live album. we also got multiple blurryface tweets this last year and got to celebrate bfx by solving codes together. the codes ultimately led up to teasing the double album and the name of the first single, but i think if all they announced was a second leg to the tour that wrapped up the story, i think we still got fed so well. im so happy to be a part of this fanbase and get to experience this amazing band with all of you. i can’t wait for breach and for us all to experience that together as well

brazen leaf
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potential tracklist reveal today

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or smth

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lets see

hot stream
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Wouldn’t it be too early?

brazen leaf
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eh maybe but its clancys birthday

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maybe they'll just say happy birthday

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or post a teaser

shut spruce
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tracklist probably with The Contract I'd assume

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if anything, now would be a good time to teaee the Clancy Live album

molten sandal
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19 DAYS

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i accidentally scrolled through a live on tt and all i heard was THE CONTRACT IS A ||LOVE|| SONG!! and scrolled away as quick as i could 😭😭😭

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those damn leak listeners jos

graceful hill
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I don't think it has leaked

molten sandal
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yeah i really hope that was a fake leak or something even if i didnt hear anything

shut spruce
molten sandal
teal compass
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We know nothing about it yet

shut spruce
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except for the love affair

brazen leaf
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WILL WEHEAR A SNIPPET OF THE CONTRACT TODAY

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ONE CAN HOPE

gilded anchor
distant beacon
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More than likely we’ll hear a snippet either one week before release so around June 5th or the day before (June 11th)

fiery current
brazen leaf
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but its maybe not likely

distant beacon
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They don’t usually post anything during one year album anniversaries unfortunately

brazen leaf
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we can hope

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clancy is apart of the lore

distant beacon
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So was Trench and sai and they didn’t do anything for their one year anniversary’s 😔

karmic lake
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i think autocorrect did you dirty on that one

brazen leaf
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yeah but given the circumstance of the contract out soon and breach, i thought we'd get smth 😔

distant beacon
distant beacon
karmic lake
distant beacon
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Kinda what they did with OC

karmic lake
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i wonder if theyre gonna be active at all until a week before

distant beacon
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Maybe a bit

brazen leaf
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knowing them they wont say anything until it comes out

distant beacon
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They might tease it sooner but it’ll be next Thursday

karmic lake
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bc its not so long until june and it seems like they want to keep us in suspense, but i would love to be proven wrong

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im also so curious to see what the "first pressing edition" is cause the wording in the description makes me 👀 and it only being available until june 12

distant beacon
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Assuming we will get a full reveal on June 12th

karmic lake
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are they just seeing how many people will by the album with no details lmao

fiery current
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🇫🇷🥖

brazen leaf
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i googled it a few days ago and first pressing just means like the first ever time the CDs were produced with the original masters of the album

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apparently it can sound clearer

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but has no design on the cd

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i think after the contract drops they'll start selling normal Cds

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also its funny that first pressing edition = FPE

karmic lake
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and we have very little details

brazen leaf
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yeah

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its a common thing that artists do apparently

karmic lake
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oh yeah absolutely

distant beacon
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Most likely it might have an extra bonus unfinished track or just unfinished mixing or maybe it’s just a physical difference

karmic lake
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but my mind just keeps circling back to those two points and will continue to do so until we get more info

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also the description of the cd on the merch store

distant beacon
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Weirddd

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Kinda seems like it’s just a first pressing

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Like

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Just the first copies

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Still weird wording at the end

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Claiming a copy right now?

karmic lake
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RIGHT?

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its mostly the phrase "claiming a copy right now" that is making me sus

distant beacon
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Like what the hell does it MEANNN

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we’ll find out June 12th

mild valley
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I hope it's just an edition like any other they're selling later, just a slightly different design and the only special thing is that it's the earliest-order-edition, so maybe valuable to collectors...
Wish it was available longer though, but no way I'm ordering one now when i know i'll probably order merch anyways once some more stuff drops (shipping is too expensive) catcry

gilded anchor
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btw just a prediction, weve had hypothetical/speculative clues pointing to June 13th 2025 for a while, which is a Friday which is normal to release music on. And then they come out and announce The Contract slated for June 12th. Im just gonna say it something with lore significance is gonna delay The Contract drop a day and push it to Friday the 13th. I could be wrong idk but its way too close for comfort and this is my prediction 🙂‍↕️

distant beacon
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What clues have pointed to June 13th?

woven prawn
ivory radish
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the banditos wear mustard tape

wheat gorge
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would Clancy be the holder of the Ladybug or the Cat miraculous in this case?

brazen leaf
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after june 12th they'll sell regular CDs

distant beacon
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Obviously, but the wording is still odd, that’s all. They’ve never done first pressings before so it’s odd they decide to do them now.

wheat gorge
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my guess is that there's gonna be something special about this CD, cause why else market it as a limited edition CD?

if so, what could it be? outside of maybe special artwork or them being signed, maybe they'll be a special track (an intro, interlude, secret song?) not really their thing but who knows

brazen leaf
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this album is the final album, they probably see it as extremely special or they have loads of faith in the songs

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so they want ppl to get the first pressings

gilded anchor
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I bought the FPE (lol) so I really hope theirs something special. A hidden arg would suffice in place of extra tracks or stuff like that to lol

brazen leaf
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idk what other reason there could be

gilded anchor
karmic lake
wheat gorge
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exactly! it's almost like whatever is special about the First Pressing Edition is not hinged off music (which we have nothing of) but maybe the lore?

ivory radish
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May well become the coolest CD in my collection tbh

karmic lake
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yeah there has to be something about it thats different, it could be as small as the cover art is different but i think it will be much bigger

ivory radish
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what if we get the contract

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not the song but like whatever the actual contract is

karmic lake
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OHHHH like in the cd case

ivory radish
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written on the CD, or in the case

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yeah

karmic lake
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thats a cool idea

ivory radish
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maybe there will be dmaorg codes in the credits, idk

wheat gorge
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it's like the Dema Envelopes again but with the CD

ivory radish
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yeah

karmic lake
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ill be very excited then bc i never got a dema letter

gilded anchor
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#theories was having the obligatory "is it really a double album technically speaking" conversation earlier 😭

ivory radish
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bruh 😭

gilded anchor
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I sent this 😭 They must understand!!

ivory radish
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I feel like, surely everyone knew that the double album theory wasn’t actually being technical abt the definition

ivory radish
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it always meant a second album shortly after to continue the story from where we left off

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which is what we got

wheat gorge
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yeah it was kinda the name that just caught on. we didn't really know what to call it when we first started putting together the idea

brazen leaf
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so it makes sense to take it off sale

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and then sell normal cds

karmic lake
lean mango
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Do you remember how much the Clancy CD was on the site?

wide jolt
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The breach CDs seem cheaper than Clancy ones

olive plume
compact arrow
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Well with the amount that Clancy Word Tour costed, they have more than enough funds for these MV’s

compact arrow
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However more people started to see that I may have been onto something after the PS MV

lean mango
compact arrow
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Maybe 12 at most imo

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Dude they’ve been radio silent since this announcement

lean mango
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Charging $1 less for 1 less track is kinda silly but i could see it

compact arrow
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They definitely are in overdrive behind the scenes

compact arrow
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Shits changing so much recently

lean mango
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If it was an economy thing they'd probably charge more

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Could maybe be a preorder deal?

ivory radish
compact arrow
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Inflation has gone .6 since may of last year

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Def a big change 🔥🔥

compact arrow
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I believe The Line was made back in 2023

compact arrow
ivory radish
lean mango
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Though I will say, now that we have a confirmed meaning for 25 I'm a lot less sure about 25 songs total

wheat gorge
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yeah "25" always felt more like a nod towards 2025 being when new music (Breach) would drop than anything else.

brazen leaf
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i put my thoughts about this theory

brazen leaf
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it’s just not possible at all

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idk why people think breach was put together last minute

compact arrow
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I think breach is a double album because it’s coming out a year after Clancy

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Which is something they have not done

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And also the logo is the same

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And the color scheme minus yellow

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So

brazen leaf
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exactly..

brazen leaf
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it’s not on the album

faint tiger
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i have a theory they’ll sell it with breach after these first pressings, but if they don’t then it’s not technically a double album just one following soon after another

cloud lynx
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honestly this double album theory was less about semantics and if it is actually a real double album with two discs, but more about just... a second sequel album in general, or even just a second record

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i think we can all agree on that

maiden onyx
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yeah

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if you really think about it, since this all connects to the same story, breach is a quintuple album

cloud lynx
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it still falls under a same umbrella

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Clancy => pt 1
Breach => pt 2

cloud lynx
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lol

maiden onyx
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lol i don’t care what the boys call it, im just glad we were right about the true conclusion album

cloud lynx
delicate sage
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I was sent here

dawn kettle
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Did someone say? QUINT ALBUM?

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I KNEW IT IM RIGHT AGAIN

karmic lake
brazen leaf
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paul meany saying "25 tracks" in one of his vids is so funny

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i wonder if they plotted that together

ivory radish
karmic lake
ivory radish
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prolly a music video trailer like they did with Overcompensate

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I don't expect anything else tho personally

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unless there's some kinda code we haven't cracked or noticed

golden umbra
faint tiger
karmic lake
brazen leaf
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they'll set a premiere to the mv hopefully a few days before

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and i imagine we'll get a snippet a week before?

brazen leaf
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1 sec

teal compass
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right now it doesnt seem like we're missing things, we're just waiting on them to do more

karmic lake
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Yeah

brazen leaf
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timestamp: 1:02

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this was at the time of ultimate chapter 25 asw

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definitely a fun tease

karmic lake
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But when they’re gonna do them is the big question though because they could do it at any time or they could wait

brazen leaf
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we're in the dark rn

karmic lake
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I get the feeling Tyler is enjoying watching all of us like

teal compass
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imo either they do something like what jerikho suggested with a trailer a couple days earlier or they just wait until the 12th

teal compass
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we're in a weird position of having the album announced significantly ahead of any single drop which is very new territory for the band so its hard to really say but i think that might be why theyre not jumping into full blown marketing yet, they need something a bit more substantial to advertise with right now than just the album cover and one photoshoot

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and its a bit early to whip out full teasers for the first single

faint tiger
karmic lake
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Yeah it’s odd that they straight up announced it but then having to wait like 20 days for the single

gilded cape
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soo

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any triple album truthers?

wheat wasp
dawn kettle
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QUINT ALBUM THEORY

golden umbra
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I love that Paul Meany posted those videos they’re just
SO cool

compact arrow
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I just thought about this

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I do think they were planning on ending the lore after trench

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“They know that it’s almost over”

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Could mean something else but yeah just another possible point that sai and Clancy were not initially planned

maiden onyx
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i always thought of that line as they know that the cycle is almost over (or is about to break). i definitely think there was only supposed to be one more album after trench but then touring got weird and they didn’t want to finish the story without the touring. that plus the fact that it was hard to find inspiration since they were mostly inspired during the shows

teal compass
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tyler did tell us back in trench era that they planned to conclude the story in another album, but thats the only one they mentioned that far back- i definitely dont think tyler ever initially intended it to take this long but the story seems to have ballooned out as they got into expanding the world and ideas

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sai is directly confirmed to be unplanned by tyler, that one we know for sure- clancy is a bit more vague since its technically a two part continuation into breach but not actually the ending? hard to say if they wouldve gone for the two part era idea or not if sai never happened

maiden onyx
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i’m happy with the way things turned out anyways

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i hold sai close to my heart so it worked out for the best

wispy orchid
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twenty one pilots scope creep is crazy

fiery current
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i think it’s best to look at how things turned out through how they were inspired instead of whether they were “supposed to happen”. i love sai because of how it was formed through its environment and year at the time and reflected the current state of the world. then same with clancy even though it was made in a year. the fact that breach was in the works for a while doesn’t mean the other projects are any less meaningful or “intended”

boreal portal
rugged hamlet
# fiery current i think it’s best to look at how things turned out through how they were inspire...

Yeah this exactly, I love the flow that we got and the climactic arc the pandemic had on the storyline. It’s absolutely perfect to me that Tyler would base his writing around the world we live in, to base it around what the fans kinda needed, that the world irl was shifting and so was the continent of Trench.

Provides this really incredible parallel between Trench & real life events, and makes the story really come to fruition. Absolute rock solid move on Tyler’s part. SAI is the album we needed during those times. Genuis 🤌🏼💋

karmic lake
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I agree and I love we got more world building

rugged hamlet
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My mom and I talk about how we both think the turn everything did around SAI is genius. Genuinely thinking of it that way has helped me fall in love with the album. When it came out, I was in an emotionally/verbally abusive relationship and it was just something fun to listen to during a really dark time in the world/in my life. The longer it’s been since the album came out, the more I fall in love with it

molten sandal
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18 days til the contract !!! how are we feeling

brazen leaf
cloud lynx
shadow cipherBOT
dark ermine
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Hi guys, can anyone send me the link with the interview where TØP said that Clancy was made entirely in 2023?

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Ok nevermind, found it

dark ermine
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But he said “in a year” not specifically in 2023

brazen leaf
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ty

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which again confirms breach has probably been done before clancy..

karmic lake
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How we feeling today double album thread?

storm fable
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but in all seriousness, the anticipation for this album has only been getting higher, I'm so hyped

dawn kettle
brazen leaf
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they’re all like “but umm no this isn’t a double album omg it’s not it has a new name ☝️ 🤓”

real field
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Can we define what exactly makes a double album? I think people are not on the same page on what defines it. At first I thought a double album was albums that are released basically at the same time

blissful yoke
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idk

karmic lake
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I think it’s a double album because it was released within a year of the last album and for tøp specifically it’s a double album because it’s being released within the same era

blissful yoke
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i think it is a loose album

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independent from clancy

karmic lake
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yeah it is a different album but I still stand by my definition above /lh /nm

graceful hill
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Or will be released I should say

karmic lake
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yeah true

brazen leaf
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its a sister album to clancy but i still count it as a double

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same era, same logo

karmic lake
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Do y’all think if they win an ama tonight they will acknowledge breach?

brazen leaf
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maybeee

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i hope they win even tho tyler has said he doesnt like fan voting

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i still voted anyway

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cause they deserve recognition this era

karmic lake
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They always deserve recognition

brazen leaf
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of course but this era has been insane for them

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so much work

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and success

karmic lake
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right!

brazen leaf
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imagine if this actually happens

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i think it would be an insane ending but also very controversial

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if we just end back at the HDS car

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and it was all a dream in clancy's head

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continues the cycle

ivory radish
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it's so cliche

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and removes the impact of everything that happened

brazen leaf
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agreed

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but it would kind of be insane and crazy

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like

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idk

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it wont happen

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i cant see tyler doing that

ivory radish
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me either

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we're all too invested

bright tinsel
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Right? But also look at Tyler's hair length.

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I find it odd that this cover doesn't have the title on it.

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I also want Josh going complex on the drums this time, kinda like Overcompensate.

rugged hamlet
bright tinsel
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I wonder how much of this was reactionary, and how much of it was planned.

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Part of me says reactionary, because:

  • Tyler was "drowning in logistics" while making Clancy and probably ran out of time / couldn't find a way to make it the lore-heavy closer of the storyline, while also trying to include so many songs as a sort of life update or retrospective on his life decisions.
  • The photoshoots are new.
  • The announcement tied in with Blurry10, sort of like the fanbase had been talking about and hoping for.

Part of me says planned, because:

  • The Breach morse code was in the letters from the start of the last leg.
  • They announced the album earlier than they needed to, accelerating the pattern of the eye and announcing it 3 weeks out from the first song, which makes me think they got impatient.
  • Breach is a "full-length album" which indicates that it will be longer than Clancy and will be the closer for the story. Also, I'm sure we'll know whether this is accurate based off of The Contract when it drops, but it seems like they're gonna put their all into this one.
fiery current
bright tinsel
fiery current
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oh dang never knew that

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it’s the same length as vessel is that not full length?

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just curious what the terminology is for that

bright tinsel
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It wasn't promoted as such - it very much could have been, but they deliberately chose not to.

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You're correct as in it technically is because it has over 8 tracks, but it's curious that they never dubbed it as such.

fiery current
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ah ok

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i think that’s more evidence for all this being clumped into one double album if the second part is being sold as a full length LP

bright tinsel
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I just hope this isn't a trend, with Trench being their second longest album then SAI and Clancy being relatively short.

fiery current
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like as a separate release

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i mean it definitely aligns with the overcompensation he talked about for each album

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so i’m sure he’s overcompensating for the shorter length of SAI with a double

bright tinsel
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My main hope for this album is cohesiveness. I want the songs to have a consistent sonical vibe like past albums did. Clancy stayed cohesive with its messaging and narrative, but the songs are all so varied from each other. Vessel had dance/electronic throughout, Blurryface was more pop, Trench had heavy basslines and ethereal instrumentsl (& vocals), Scaled & Icy had heavy pianos and lots of guitars - so Breach needs a "vibe".

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If Breach is as inconsistent as Clancy, it won't make me enjoy it less. It's just that I'll enjoy it more if it gives off a consistent atmosphere front to back.

fiery current
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i think it will. this project has been on the back burner since trench and was made as a response to it, while clancy was made in response to SAI and is more of the flashback before we fight

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so yeah i need heavy rock and screams

bright tinsel
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Same!!!

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"Clancy is the flashback before we fight" I love that idea.

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Especially because so much of Clancy is lyrically retrospective. Even songs like Overcompensate feel like they're looking back - as in, Clancy has already flown by the dangerous bend symbol. He's already decided on his plan.

bright tinsel
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Wow, people REALLY thought this was fake.

distant beacon
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At the time, a song titled The craving with a subtitle like “Jenna’s version” sounded kinda nuts so that was the main reason people didn’t believe it 😭 it was kinda in the same ish uncanny valley like door keys, toad barrow, Lloyd, etc 💀

rugged hamlet
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Not posting this to bash this person bc I might have thought the same thing had I saw this idk but I just thought it was funny and ironic rainhehe

ivory radish
smoky turtle
brazen leaf
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yeah but i doubt they'd react with an entire album?

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this has definitely been planned

cloud lynx
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lots of synths

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i hope Breach has more cohesiveness, and synths

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lol

cloud lynx
cedar yacht
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First 6 tracks one after another is cohesive, then it just kinda gets w a h

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I adore clancy so much, its my 2nd fav after TRENCH, but really what makes it that is the fact that the first 6 songs are just so amazing
Navigating and at the risk as well are just splendid
But other than that i dont like the craving and i... can stand/like lavish/oldies station/snap back and paladin

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no wait, paladin is amazing

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nvm

brazen leaf
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the first 6 tracks on clancy are perfection

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such a strong first half

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incredible

fiery current
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the album would be perfect for me if they just replaced lavish with a more fast paced song or rap

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really grown to love the 2nd half of the album especially snap back and oldies

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this is my reordering of the album, in my opinion it flows way better and makes much more sense from a story perspective

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snap back -> navigating -> NS -> oldies -> paladin is such a strong ordering it’s crazy

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plus with lavish and ATROFD (the more experimental ones) before snap back it adds a third meaning that we’re “snapping back” to the important stuff after going on a tangent

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the only downside of this ordering is that the 2nd track isn’t as explosive as NS but it still keeps the same tone of overcompensate and goes smoothly into backslide

graceful hill
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Is it a hot take to have Clancy as a favorite album

rain birch
teal compass
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Not quite a hot take I can understand this being a favorite even if it’s not my personal favorite album

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Sai is in a weird place because during sai era it was definitely a hot take for it to be your favorite but I feel like recently sai has had a resurgence in opinion among fans and you see quite a large amount of support for it

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Same thing happened with blurryface though back in bf era it was widely considered too commercial and their worst album among fans and then it had a huge upswing in love for the album as newer clikkies assimilated into the fan base

rain birch
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rab as a fav album is definitely a hot take

fiery current
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for me it follows a pattern where i didn’t like blurryface a ton when i first listened but with the context of trench i love it, same with SAI i didn’t understand it first but after clancy came out it’s become my 3rd fav below trench and clancy

modern atlas
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like it’s still super cool that another album is coming but this is a bit of a stretch from the 2024 double albim rheory

real field
compact arrow
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A lot of their albums have a strong first half imo

storm fable
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The theory was, that clancy wasn't the end and we'd get a continuation in the form of a whole new album much sooner than the expected cycle

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which is pretty much what happened

modern atlas
# rain birch wait what? why's that a stretch?

I feel like the idea last year was an album very shortly after clancy and that it would have very similar themes. Obviously we can't tell yet but this album is already starting to stray from those themes

brazen leaf
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jumpsuit, levitate, morph, my blood, chlorine

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what an absolutely perfect album start

rain birch
lean mango
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But the theory never hinged on a particular timing or branding, just that the second album exists

modern atlas
lean mango
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The only thing the theory predicted was that Clancy wasn't really the end, another album would finish the story, and that this second album would come out much quicker than the normal TOP album wait

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In fact I was constantly citing Kid A and Amnesiac by Radiohead as an example of a double album a year apart with branding that doesn't look that similar

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Breach is a lot more similar, it has the same outfits, same logo with slight changes, and mostly the same colors

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In fact it was more the deniers saying that the follow up was a lot more likely to just be a Clancy deluxe, or had to be specifically Clancy-branded because they said it's the end

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Also like, double album believers were laughed at and called delusional for a year, idk why people have to grasp at straws and nitpick to find reasons they can still be wrong

compact trout
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It is clear from the branding of Breach that this is indeed a second half to a double album

cloud lynx
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it's just so obvious that it's like the second half of an album

cloud lynx
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that'd be a missed opportunity if they don't do that

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even as an optional thing

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honestly tho i wish Breach was not marketed as a separate album but more like an actual definition-accurate "double album"
(just bc i don't want Breach to overshadow Clancy lol)

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but i'm still extremely happy we're getting more TOP music

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also, if Clancy is supposed to be the "weaker" tracks overall, and Breach is where they kept the "real deal", the strongest tracks, then what the fuck is Breach gonna be like

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we've seen how good Clancy was already

fathom charm
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it's reallllly hard to determine what breach is gonna be like after clancy, cuz i feel like clancy was literally about clancy, the person, like what he is like, and breach will be (or should be i guess) the lore concluding which is two different things

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idk if this makes any sense sorry xd

lean mango
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Tbh I think they wouldn't release an album they weren't very happy with so I think Clancy is still top quality

cloud lynx
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in the video where he announced the delay

fathom charm
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ye no doubt, but in the end he is gonna probably use the stronger tracks on the final album (if there really are some tracks that was made before/during clancy)

cloud lynx
fathom charm
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yes yes

cloud lynx
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(at least the Clancy we got)

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(cuz like he had the idea of an album about the protagonist since Trench era, so maybe Breach was supposed to be Clancy until they decided to split it up?)

fathom charm
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oh man i cant with these twogrief u never know for sure

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every time i think i figured something out a new question pops up

cloud lynx
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technically Trench was also compensating for BF

fathom charm
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that's interesting, i was actually thinking about how (to me at least) trench is not overcompensating for bf, but i do think they are completely different

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they are just not opposites

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like the others

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but it's only because of sai

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( dont get me wrong im a huge sai fan, i joined the clique with sai)

cloud lynx
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i became rly obsessed in 2018 just before Trench, i just don't remember when exactly, tho i remember already listening to them in 2017 maybe

fathom charm
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good good, honestly i cant pick a fav (maybe clancy) everytime i try to decide i end up loving all of them the same (i just meant i got to love them since sai, but i know them since trench, just for some reason back then i didnt get invested, but i did like some songs)

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now i love all of the songs

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like truly all of them

cloud lynx
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Trench has the strongest emotional value to me still to this day

fathom charm
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fair, i can see why

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i was just too young to understand then probably, i resonate with the meanings more now

cloud lynx
fathom charm
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yessss, right? i understand why a lot of the fans dont like the sound of the album, but come on, choker, the outside, no chances??????

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u cant say no to them

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mulberry street shy away

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ahhh love them

cloud lynx
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it's just like, less my vibe

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but like omg u can't dislike her

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unless u hate fun and joy

fathom charm
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and lowkey im the biggest saturday stan i think (i know a lot of people dont like that one but its just a vibeeeee :((()

cloud lynx
fathom charm
cloud lynx
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(i love Redecorate so much)

fathom charm
cloud lynx
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(Redecorate my beloved)

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(with Shy Away)

cloud lynx
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like

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i mean i remember all of them dropping but i mean like

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yeah

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how could u hate that song </3

fathom charm
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ahhh i was hoping you would say that

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first time i heard it immediate love

cloud lynx
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it was so refreshing

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so dancy

fathom charm
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vibe vibe vibe thats all i can say to it, sure its not the deepest song but come oooon its a jam

dawn kettle
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Sai is a entire vibe

lean mango
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Redecorate is my fav TOP song of all time, Formidable is easily my #2 on SAI tho

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But despite being a fan since before Blurryface, Clancy is my favorite album overall

karmic lake
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How much do y’all want to bet they didn’t televise the two amas the pilots just won because Tyler is being suspenseful with breach stuff

compact arrow
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Just had to drive through a cloud for 20 minutes

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Never living in the mountains again brother

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WTF IS THAT

lyric raptor
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not a double album theory, I thinks

arctic karma
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Hey guys! I have a theory I’d like to share concerning the upcoming single “The Contract”

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I apologize if someone else has already brought this up I haven’t been on this channel much since the album announcement

teal compass
# karmic lake How much do y’all want to bet they didn’t televise the two amas the pilots just ...

honestly i kinda think tyler just fully didnt expect to win at all given his comment about them probably never winning awards again on the release stream, them not showing up could be an intentional pr move but i kinda feel like they just didnt think they needed too and will be blindsided by this win- would have been a great promo oppurtunity to do something cryptic and suspensefull like in 2017

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he seems to have lost a lot of confidence in their commercial success after sai and was already super surprised just by how well Clancy did much less winning awards

karmic lake
arctic karma
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Okay this is kinda wild but stay with me.
So I think “The Contract” and “The Line” are connected. I think lore-wise “The Line” is Clancy basically telling Torchbearer he’s crossing the line and going all-in with taking down DEMA, no matter what it turns Clancy into.

I think “The Contract” is gonna be a similar concept story-wise but instead from Torchbearer’s perspective. In the song (this is a theory) we’ll see Torchbearer and Clancy laying out their plan, then we’ll see Torchbearer’s reaction to Clancy deciding to go past the point of no return and how he decides to deal with it (will he continue to help Clancy or will he abandon him?)

On release day for “The Contract” we’ll get a MV for the single as well as a new lore-related MV for “The Line”, showing us what I described above. Then the next song they release from “Breach” would be the first song on the album and the MV for it would pick up right where we left off with Paladin.

I’ll admit this is far-fetched and we have basically no evidence to suggest this is what they’re gonna do, I just think it would be a cool and natural way for them to give us more insight on Clancy and Torchbearer’s relationship before entering the finale of the lore

compact trout
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Well The LIne was written and made during a small break in touring, so it would be something they made after both of these albums. There's legit zero evidence that anything on Breach was made after the Clancy sessions since all the lore hints before Clancy and Tyler asking us all if that was it after they premiered in full pointed to a second part. But I do think The Line isn't just for that TV show, but also part of the lore for TOP

compact arrow
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@lyric raptor top 5 staff

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However you are not safe from my (reasonable) trolling

gilded cape
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man i need that the contract snippet like i need oxygen

boreal portal
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according to y’all when will there be a breach tour for eu ?

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are we looking at next year

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?

brazen leaf
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well its not 100% that they will tour the EU again for breach

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but if they did

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probably 2026

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im mentally preparing myself for a US only tour

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so i dont get disappointed

feral acorn
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please i need a crumb of twenty one pilots to be in europe or i will lose all hope

cloud lynx
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i honestly think there's no way what's basically the final battle tour is not gonna be as big if not bigger than the Clancy tour

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including by number of countries

brazen leaf
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i hope but idkk they never went to europe twice during the bandito tour and stuff so im not getting hopeful

boreal portal
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i’m from mauritius so i need to fly to uk to be able to see them

cloud lynx
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i know there were shows planned for 2020, and i'm pretty sure not just in the US

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(but they were cancelled due to Covid)

cloud lynx
cloud lynx
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we're talking about not just a second "Clancy tour" but technically touring "another" album, plus it's supposedly gonna be the final arc

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even if they just announce a US-only tour at first, i'm sure they will come to Europe eventually, even if it's later in 2026

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and remember, they apparently have plans for "2026 and beyond"

brazen leaf
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yeah its definitely possible i just dont wat to get my hopes up and then be let down

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but im still excited for another tour

brazen leaf
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and maybe other parts of europe

compact arrow
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Until the conflict between Ukraine and Russia ends, I sadly don’t think they’ll be playing there

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Which I feel so bad for the Russian fans cause that’s lame asf

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And yeah this is a final tour in terms of lore so I think they’ll do a big tour again similar to Clancy

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I hope they add some Asian spots

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Big following in Asia and they haven’t gotten any love since BF world tour 🤣

wide jolt
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It probably means they won't film there as well 😣

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I want the old dema back

stark fiber
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not a full blown Europe leg, but they had their first stadium show in Russia scheduled for 2020, then it got pushed back to 2021, they realized that was still too soon with covid restrictions so it got pushed back to 2022, then they cancelled it due to the war in Russia

stark fiber
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but to my knowledge they had no shows even scheduled from January-May 2020

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then i think they had like only 3 Europe shows scheduled from June-July 2020

cedar yacht
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They also stated that they planned the beginning of the new are after Moscow 2021

karmic lake
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Y’all I just realized: the contract is releasing on Jenna’s birthday- now this doesn’t have to do with anything other than I just saw it and remembered that’s also the day the LOC ARG started in 2020

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I remember because we thought it was a regular livestream at the time and were thinking “oh maybe Tyler will sing happy birthday to Jenna”

graceful hill
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That was such a great time tbh

karmic lake
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It was

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But I’m just like 👀 bc they announced breach on the four anniversary of Scaled and Icy and the first single comes out the day the LOC ARG started

shadow cipherBOT
boreal portal
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CYAN ????

karmic lake
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holy shit

brazen leaf
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BLUE IS DEFEAT

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AHH

karmic lake
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WAIT WHAT WAS THE CLAIM CYAN THING I CANT REMEMBER DETAILS

brazen leaf
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blue is a sign of defeat

karmic lake
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I remember there was a thing that said claim cyan but I can’t remember how we got there

karmic lake
boreal portal
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WTF ARE THEY DOING

karmic lake
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I DONT KNOW

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But the announcement for breach turns 1 week old tomorrow

brazen leaf
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omggggggggg

karmic lake
compact arrow
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See how fast that week went by?

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Of it being announced.

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We getting this album soon man

wide jolt
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Did not go fast for me 😣

brazen leaf
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same

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almost june 12th thop

compact arrow
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Just was reminded of Trees RAB version

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….

echo chasm
karmic lake
karmic lake
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do we think theyre do anything tommorow? it will be one week since the breach announcement

weak thorn
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I don't wanna get my hopes high.

molten sandal
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just woke up from a dream where they released a fucking quintalbum and one of them was about soup

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i think i might hyperfixating too hard

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im glad were getting breach

lean mango
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lmaoooo

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It still doesn't feel real to me

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I spent a year hoping this would be real, thinking there was decent evidence of it, but also not daring to really consider the idea that it might actually happen to avoid the disappointment if it wasn't

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feeling kinda delusional

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and it's here, it's confirmed

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I don't think it will truly hit me until The Contract comes out

graceful hill
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i had a dream during the sai rollout where they released a song titled Mat Dog's Playground

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i dont remember if it was that song but one of the songs was explicit

stuck frigate
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I woke up from a dream just now where they accidentally released breach on spotify early

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And half of it was with another random artist doing the songs instead

fleet locust
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lol

compact arrow
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I just had a dream that this server turned into a FNAF fan server

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(Not a fnaf fan, no clue why I had this dream)

desert smelt
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that did happen

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on april fools

rain birch
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so uh.. is it too late to start liking fairly local and lane boy or am I safe

compact arrow
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Dawg you can start liking music whenever you want

rain birch
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i’m joking lol just realizing after 10 years i’m finally appreciating these songs

limber jasper
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I AM NOT SICK ANYMORE

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I AM FULLY RECOVERED

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AND I AM READY FOR THE CONTRACT.

boreal portal
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watching the last show footage why does tyler look so angry/sad

karmic lake
compact arrow
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Oh also something I noticed

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Go look at when twenty one pilots YT was made

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And go look at Breach’s release date as of right now

brazen leaf
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yep

lean mango
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I'm honestly confused about why they haven't formally announced the release date

storm fable
compact trout
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Probably all revealed on the 12th is my assumption

karmic lake
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my thought is maybe we get a crumb tommorow and a tease the week after like the i am clancy video

lean mango
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probably would've been today if that was happening

karmic lake
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yeah probably

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and come to think of it they would probably want to wait until a week before or day of to just drop everything like they did for clancy

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its also a lot cooler

karmic lake
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something i just realized: its not exactly correct but by releasing Clancy in May 2024 and then releasing Breach in September 2025 1 year and 4 months later they are almost breaking the cycle literally in half

copper tide
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please let there be an i am torchbearer video

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it would be so awesome

fiery current
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i am tb (taco bell)

stark fiber
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idk if rumor is even the right word. cause it said the release date was September 5th for some ppl that pre ordered a physical copy

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theres a high chance September 5th is the release

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also 85 days after The Contract drops would be September 5th. 85 days after Overcompensate dropped is when Clancy dropped

brazen leaf
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its september 5th most likely

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thats what it says when i pre-ordered a cd

mossy drift
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I don't think there will be a delay this time. I am pretty sure Breach was already recorded (maybe not finished/mastered) when Clancy was released.

I am wondering if they do a video for every song again. If so, that would be the only reason for a delay maybe. If they want to release all the videos on the same day Breach comes out, like they did with Clancy.

brazen leaf
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yeah i doubt they'll delay

lyric wing
lyric wing
boreal portal
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TORCHBEARERS THEME

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IS THE CONTRACT

bright tinsel
woven prawn
brazen leaf
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OMGGG I CANT WAIT

jagged fiber
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I got notification that blurryface posted something I clicked it immediately and its gone, was it old noti? or am I delusional

trail bay
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Ayooooo blurryface

stuck frigate
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I cant tell what hes saying

trail bay
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I check the doors check the windows I think?

stuck frigate
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Hurl the blinds? i have no idea

trail bay
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And both of mine?

weary sage
boreal portal
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watch him leak the song

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watch us go full circle

trail bay
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Omg leakkkkinggg

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🎈

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Close the blinds!!!

graceful hill
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this sounds like a ritn sequel ngl

stuck frigate
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I was close 😔

formal belfry
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Hahaha haha

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Imagine a Fnaf x Twenty One Pilots collab

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Hahahahhahaa

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Imagine

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Check the doors, check the windows, then close the blinds

trail bay
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People in theories reversed the video and got “buckle up”

cerulean umbra
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I hear: I check the doors, check the windows then/and pull/fill the blank, pull/fill the blank (repeating)

onyx dust
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security breach grief

trail bay
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Also that chat is pointing out this is the opposite of not today: “pull the curtains down windows open I’ll make a noise”

brazen leaf
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OMGGG

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SO CREEPY

cerulean umbra
brazen leaf
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IM SCARED

trail bay
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Me too lol

brazen leaf
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“check the windows, check the doors, close the blinds”

limber jasper
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blurryface.. just pulled an Mandela Catalogue

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actually blurryface just pulled an whole analog horror thing

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that is fucking scary

rugged hamlet
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Oh my god I was just freaking out from the video and there are words slowed DOWNNN?? 😩😩😩 why do these boys do this to us!!!!

limber jasper
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they love to torture us to DEATH

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RAAH

rugged hamlet
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And it was tweeted by BLURRYFACE?!!!

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Bruh:

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Catching up is wild man

limber jasper
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i know lol

rugged hamlet
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So Blurryface tweeted that today? trying to catch up

limber jasper
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yeah he did

rugged hamlet
limber jasper
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while i was still WAKING UP.

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how Fun is that

fiery current
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why would pookieface do this to me on my thursday morning

limber jasper
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on OUR thursday morning 😭

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beacuse i was fucking working out

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til this happened

trail bay
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So here’s my question the tune and the speed at the end of the video REALLY reminds me of something musically and I can’t put my finger on it

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I’m thinking it’s either a song,
Or the concert transition after jumpsuit, or both?

limber jasper
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who knows not gonna lie..

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i cant put my mind to it since i am recovering from my workout lol

prisma shoal
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OH MY GOSH IT WAS A VIDEO?!

granite olive
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Also, keeping in mind the way the paladin video was released, and blurry giving the hint with the digital remains, anything could be anywhere at this point.

limber jasper
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thats true,

trail bay
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Guys I just realized that in the concert they transition from paladin strait to jumpsuit DOES THIS SIGNIFY FIGHTING

rugged hamlet
# trail bay

This is just straight up what he posted right like not slowed down or anything?

granite olive
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Correct.

trail bay
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Yeppp

limber jasper
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yeah

rugged hamlet
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Ffs notlikethis

granite olive
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Could be a long shot, has anyone looked at the routines video doors etc for anything ?

limber jasper
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i did not thought of that all the sudden ._.

trail bay
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Some people have been talking about it but I’m not sure if a conclusion was reached. They also referred to the lyrics being opposed to those of not today

rain birch
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im 99% sure the visual for bf tweet is part of the contract mv

trail bay
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Also Twitter is saying that the torchbearer theme from the concert will be the contract 😭

granite olive
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🤣 with them everything could be something or nothing.

lean mango
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Yea, I'm going to guess this is a bit of the MV and some of the lyrics

trail bay
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I would not put it past them for it to be something on the record but who knows 😭

rugged hamlet
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Why they gotta be such a tease jackma40Waah

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This is truly going to be a summer of teasing jackma40Waah

limber jasper
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the summer of us having heart attacks from teases

gilded cape
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them announcing an album in september is evil

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like being hyped for september pisses me off cause the semester starts

cedar yacht
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My birthday is September

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The 11th

bright tinsel
gilded cape
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i'll be twenty one... am i becoming lore?

limber jasper
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september is gonna be a busy year for me,

gilded cape
limber jasper
cedar yacht
bright tinsel
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GUYS! Have we noticed that Tyler is wearing the BREACH outfit in that Blurryface video?

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For me, that really cements this being a new music video.

limber jasper
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i should have BROUGHt this up

bright tinsel
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TOP loves doing teasers on Thursdays...same time next week?

limber jasper
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maybe?

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i dont know

shadow cipherBOT
limber jasper
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its possible

bright tinsel
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Next Thursday will also be exactly a week out from The Contract - which is the same timeline for teasers dropping for the Clancy singles.

limber jasper
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truee..

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yeah i am pretty sure we will get a another teaser then

bright tinsel
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Unless this is our "teaser", in which case I won't complain, because the atmosphere is amazing.

limber jasper
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yeah

bright tinsel
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I'm placing my bets - The Contract will either be hard rock (like Jumpsuit/Navigating) or dark rap (like Levitate/Overcompensate), no in-between 😅

limber jasper
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levitate is my goat so i do hope it's dark rap fr

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but i love my hard rock so i hope it's eaither

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of those

bright tinsel
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Now that Tyler knows how to play guitar, I want him to go all out with a heavy album. I felt a little jipped with Clancy not having as much hard rock representation as I had hoped, but it's also a near-perfect album, so I trust Tyler's vision regardless of where it leads.

limber jasper
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i swear if it is heavy ima be headbanging til i break my neck like a true metalhead would to

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do*

bright tinsel
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Breach definitely has to potential to be Trench's true successor - a grungey, dark, lore-heavy album that doesn't pull any emotional punches.

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As much as waiting til September for the album will be difficult, I honestly believe The Contract will be one of their greatests songs OAT, so it should definitely hold me over.

limber jasper
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yeah

bright tinsel
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I don't think they would lead off a double album with a weak track, it's definitely gonna be a standout banger.

limber jasper
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100%

bright tinsel
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In fact, the whole double album is probably going to be top-notch, there's a reason they saved it for last. :p

limber jasper
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i mean if i waited long for like both clancy and bring me the horizons post human nex gen and eminem's death of slim shady and KDOT's GNX then i am sure i can wait til september

bright tinsel
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Was BMTH's new album good?

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I still need to listen to it-

limber jasper
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yeah

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it is

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i enjoyed it

bright tinsel
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This is good news.

brazen leaf
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GUYSSS I CANT WAIT

limber jasper
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the fact it came out the same time as clancy made me miss it lmfao

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beacuse i was watching the clancy live stream that time

brazen leaf
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the cryptic silence etc

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they are excited

ivory radish
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yes

bright tinsel
ivory radish
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the fact that the tb theme in the Manchester show video transitioned into a buildup

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they're comfortable to tease us

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cause they know it's gonna deliver

limber jasper
brazen leaf
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yepp

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they're very comfortable clearly

ivory radish
limber jasper
bright tinsel
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Also, I'm getting these vibes from this part of the clip:

ivory radish
ivory radish
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I hope so

bright tinsel
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It definitely feels like Clancy is back in Dema, whether willingly or not - boxing himself in by closing out all influences or eyes - is this a reference to the basement production of Trench?

ivory radish
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it's not just the backing track but something he's performing

brazen leaf
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contract mv gonna be so good

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it looks crazyyy

molten sandal
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AGRHHHG IM SO EXCITED IM GONNA BE JUMPING AROUND WALLS WHEN THE CONTRACT COMES OUT

bright tinsel
molten sandal
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the tb theme is so creepy i love it

limber jasper
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beacuse that sounds epic as it should

bright tinsel
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Josh needs to go crazy on the drums for this album! I'm talking Overcompensate levels of complex, but on every track.

ivory radish
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with instrumental buildup

brazen leaf
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also who tf is it speaking in the blurry video

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MANNN I WANT JUNE 12TH TO HURRY UP

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CANT WAIT

bright tinsel
ivory radish
bright tinsel
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So....they have a clean recording of the Torchbearer theme...and they're playing it in a teaser for the next single...

ivory radish
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and at the end it does an instrumental buildup

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which wasn't played at the shows

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it's absolutely the intro to The Contract

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it has to be

limber jasper
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yeah

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it has to be

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mann it has To BEEE>.

boreal portal
bright tinsel
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Yeah, it's connected. I also noticed this version seems to have more layers, like more - WOAH WAIT TYLER HEADBANGING AT THE END???

ivory radish
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and it looks like he's rapping

maiden onyx
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also if you pause the video the band tweeted on the last few frames, it looks like the stole that tyler wears is going into his shoulder and not around the back of his neck. so i feel like they teased a snippet of the new mv too

ivory radish
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oh for sure

bright tinsel
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It's the Breach outfit! He has the braided wallet chain too!

ivory radish
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yep

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I am so ready

limber jasper
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i cant wait for the critics to shit on the boys

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beacuse they hate eerie music in general

boreal portal
tender musk
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probably call it "fake deep" "edgy" idk same as usual?

maiden onyx
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clancy won awards and tyler didn’t think it would, what do we think about beach? well it be to niche for the public?

limber jasper
bright tinsel
limber jasper
tender musk
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yeah, there has been so much love and planning for this whole era

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they are doing this purely for the ones that stuck around

limber jasper
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yeah true,

bright tinsel
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If the Torchbearer theme is really the intro to The Contract, and gets played in full...are we looking at a 5+ minute song?

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This is the final chapter to the story...Tyler, I'm begging...PLEASE make these songs atmospheric and lengthy. Starting off the album with a long orchestral interlude before building up to hard rock or rap would be so ballsy.

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Screw short songs, screw mass appeal, we want WORLD BUILDING.

limber jasper
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WEEE NEEEEEEDDD WORLLDDDD BUUILLLDDDIINNGGG

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RAAAAHHHHHHH

fathom lantern
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Yall remember from the digital remains how certain numbers kept cropping up like 11, 25, etc. I bet it’ll come out on one of those dates in September since 9 kept repeating too

bright tinsel
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6/25 = The Contract comes out June 2025.

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That one's solved, we were right about it and we deserve the credit ‼️

fathom lantern
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^^^

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But also I remember 14 and 11 coming up too

bright tinsel
limber jasper
bright tinsel
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I'm praying that they do, they've been teasing that kind of a buildup since Heavydirtysoul. From Jumpsuit's metalcore-esque breakdowns, to Tyler's metal screams in the backing vocals of Shy Away (the half-time part at the end), the live version of Message Man, and then the hard-punk tone of Navigating...they could do it! I know they could!

limber jasper
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it would make my metalhead heart happy

bright tinsel
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Same here.

limber jasper
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so fingers crossed of course but ima also keep my expectations low

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and not get over excited

bright tinsel
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Same, since the mere existence of Next Semester as an alt-rock song combined with Tyler now playing electric guitar made me think Clancy would be a full-fledged rock album - which wasn't the case.

limber jasper
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yeah

bright tinsel
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Clancy has a lot of rock elements but really pulls its punches (except for Navigating and ATRoFD), it feels like he didn't want the album to be too intense I guess.

limber jasper
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yeah

bright tinsel
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But now that mass appeal has been "kicked to the curb", maybe they can go all out?

karmic lake
limber jasper
bright tinsel
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Yeah, Clancy needs to lock in 💀

limber jasper
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fr man 💀

compact arrow
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Yeah and just in case someone tries to say it’s not from the new outfit it is

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The Clancy tape is short and you can see the cut off on both sides

limber jasper
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yeah

bright tinsel
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Also red wallet chain - which was an even easier giveaway

shadow cipherBOT
brazen leaf
compact arrow
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Clancy tour was a flash back

karmic lake
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Oh my god

compact arrow
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I’m telling you

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This album is gonna be a massive gut punch

molten sandal
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offtopic but i was at a musuem and i found vultures and cheetahs

compact arrow
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Think 7 neon gravestones beating the shit out of you all at once

molten sandal
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its jason!!

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golden umbra
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Guys the new video on their Instagram 😭😭 that’s gotta be the contract I’m so excited and also like why is it so freaking creepy helppp

bright tinsel
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I love the thought of Torchbearer's theme being The Contract.

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No way, we both said basically the same thing lol.

gilded cape
compact arrow
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New pfp go hard

bright tinsel
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Okay guys, let's take a vote here!

Do we think that The Contract music video takes place in Tyler's mind? A sort of "domain expansion" where Clancy manifests a microphone, stage, etc. to express his feelings at that point in time? (breach_a)

Or do we think that The Contract music video will take place on a physical stage somewhere in Dema, where Clancy is producing music for the citizens - whether it be rebellious or controlled? (breach_b )

arctic ocean
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trim bough
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Okay, this freaked me out. This is so old.

bright tinsel
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Sometime's Tyler's mannerisms/sayings end up in his music...this could be one such case.

arctic ocean
bright tinsel
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@sour kestrel Sorry for ping. It's a wallet chain though.

sour kestrel
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It's okay! I've never seen a wallet chain like that

bright tinsel