🎥 The Little Mermaid

[coarse bridge]

Priorities, man. Real life is still happening for everyone.

I dont think having a hunch that it will do great qualifies as "championing". It just means i had a hunch.

[candid quest]

Hey now, don't sell your abilities short. You put that energy into the universe and fought tooth and nail for that film. You bested every single naysayer who even tried to utter a foul word against your Company.

Now how badly do you wanna catch this picture in theaters? You got the time?

[coarse bridge]

I'm asking you nicely. Please stop entertaining the notion that i work for Disney. It irritates me. I know you find it hilarious, but i'm asking you respectfully to drop it.

[candid quest]

Then entertain this one question - do you got the time to catch the picture in theaters?

I'll send you a ticket for a showing, if you gots the time.

[coarse bridge]

I have the time, not the money.

[candid quest]

DM me your theater and your email.

[coarse bridge]

And i'm not about to owe people some either.

[candid quest]

You ain't gonna owe me diddly.

[dusky sandal]

ok I'm buying then

[candid quest]

I want the attorney at that theater.

I got Cineclub.

I gots the connections.

[coarse bridge]

There is no attorney, for gum's sake.

[candid quest]

There is one and there's a ticket with his name on it.

[dusky sandal]

Morpho I pledge to buy you a ticket with no funny business

[candid quest]

DM me your theater and email.

[coarse bridge]

Why?

[candid quest]

Because I'm sending you a ticket.

No funny business.

[coarse bridge]

What is this about?

[candid quest]

Scout's honor.

[dusky sandal]

its a nice gesture

[candid quest]

I'll even verify this with Bob.

[coarse bridge]

From someone who isnt nice all the time...

[dusky sandal]

can't people be nice

[candid quest]

If I mess you over on this, I give Bob permission to throw me outta here.

I'd be happy to set up a DM with Bob and yourself included so we have some accountability here.

[coarse bridge]

this is a ploy to get my email for some nefarious scheme, i'm willing to bet.

[candid quest]

That's why I'm including Bob.

Because if I do anything unkind, Bob will know and so will staff.

Been thrown out once, ain't doing it again.

[coarse bridge]

In a DM. Just you.

[dusky sandal]

no bob

[candid quest]

Sounds good. Theater and email and that's all.

I'll let Bob know once it's been confirmed.

[coarse bridge]

you dont give him my coordinates.

deal?

[dusky sandal]

HIM

[candid quest]

No coordinates.

[dusky sandal]

as if I was some notorious gangster

[candid quest]

Just confirmation that the transaction been made.

Like I said, I've been tossed out before so Bob has his finger on the trigger if I do anything unkind with the info.

[short mantle]

Are mcp and morp arguing again

[dusky sandal]

this is a happy encounter

[candid quest]

I'm getting the man a ticket to the movie.

I want him at his kinoplex enjoying the fruits of his labor.

[dusky sandal]

cause the movie bangs fat hard

[leaden iron]

No boob (sorry I can’t resist)

Not very banging to 5% of the audience

Or 43%, take your pick

[coarse bridge]

Either way, who cares. You either like it or you dont.

[candid quest]

I have secured safe passage for this man to see his movie.

Morph, we all hope to hear about it on the 7th.

[coarse bridge]

Just for you here's my statement: No comment.

And i can get away with it cuz you paid already. Sucker!

[dusky sandal]

is there foul play

[coarse bridge]

Nah, was just pulling a leg.

[dusky sandal]

was about to ban McP

[coarse bridge]

If he wants to know what i thought about it, i'll say a few words.

[dusky sandal]

noted

[coarse bridge]

Serious, Mcp is not in trouble, whatsoever.

He honored his deal.

[dusky sandal]

sounds great

[coarse bridge]

Not many people would do this for a schmuck like me. Thanks, @candid quest

[leaden iron]

You are not a schmuck

[paper hatch]

People aren't tired of Disney live action remakes, at least not in United States.. they have made a lot of money and TLM yes isn't doing so well abroad but it's doing pretty great in the states

[coarse bridge]

I legit want to know what a live action take on The Sword in the Stone, for instance, would look like. Give Patrick Steward the beard.

[paper hatch]

Haven't watched that animated movie

[coarse bridge]

Its a gem.

To me anyways.

[paper hatch]

Nice

[coarse bridge]

Its the adventures of pre-king Arthur and Merlin. Arthur being just a scrawny kid.

Treated like shit, too. By the lord he lives under.

[leaden iron]

7th huh... now I feel compelled to get the guy a ticket for TOMORROW @coarse bridge

[coarse bridge]

Well,I...havent seen Gog3 yet. :p

[leaden iron]

hmmm... but you weren't advocating for it

[coarse bridge]

I'm a staunch MCU supporter.

Got me in trouble enough.

[leaden iron]

me too lol

[simple sphinx]

This wasn’t that bad tbh

Decent remake

[celest cloud]

this movie

is…

https://tenor.com/view/kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-storkholders-gif-25676481

pretty alright

[leaden iron]

IF I was to rank between the remakes, it’s most palpable lol

I DID gave it a 4/5 on LB

[short mantle]

Don't let Ben see that lol

[celest cloud]

whatever lol

[celest cloud]

A common complaint I'm seeing in the new little mermaid has to do with Scuttle

Even in the og movie some people just don't like the character

And honestly I just don't get it

What's with the hate?

What's with these homies dissing my girl

Why do they gotta front?

What did we ever do to these guys that them so violent

#ScuttleRights I'm fed up with this oppression

[leaden iron]

People can't get used to Awkwafina's um... vocal quality lol

[celest cloud]

Really? I always thought Awkwafina's naturally raspy voice was pretty badass

[celest cloud]

Probs half the reason I watch her movies and shows. Just sounds cool as fuck.

[celest cloud]

ive only heard the song ppl were trashing and it's less awkwafina's fault and more lin-manuel's fault

cus scuttle obviously is not meant to have good vocals for comic relief. that's whatever. it's the decision to give scuttle a whole ass song combined with the awful lyrics that really makes it unbearable

[exotic sapphire]

What stretching a movie to 2 hours does to a mf

[celest cloud]

IT'S 2 HOURS?

lmfao

[feral steppe]

i was hoping there would be more lines from flounder, he wasnt really vocal in the live action

[dusky scarab]

seeing this in about an hour!

[celest cloud]

I've been relistening to the Scuttlebutt

I still don't understand the hate

I don't get a single complaint thrown at it. Are we even listening to the same song???

[simple sphinx]

Flounder was barely in it

[tawdry sun]

https://youtu.be/QKlQu_p97KI

Is this the song you’re talking about

Because if so, I’m sorry this is ass

I listen to a good amount of rap

And honestly I’d rather listen to Lil Pump then this

God it’s annoying as fuck too

I’m shutting this off

[dusky scarab]

i really liked the song!

just saw the film

[dusky scarab]

4/5 from me

[tawdry sun]

To each his own

Awkwafina going "BAWCHIKCA WA AWAHA" in my ear is annoying asf.

[coarse bridge]

I rather like the double time flow at the end.

Granted it aint the best song on the show.

[dusky scarab]

that goes to part of your world easily

[celest cloud]

Think i know how to fix the soundtrack if people hate it that much and is causing families to fall apart, eating the last Klondike bar, burning down the rainforest, hiking house prices, stealing candy from babies, beating up puppies, and is the reason western civilization is on the verge of collapse

[leaden iron]

I like it, especially after repeated requests from son to hear Scuttlebutt, but it’s not “classical Disney” and a lot of people can’t agree with that.

[leaden iron]

Yeah, I kinda thought the lyrics is a bit… weird… not would’ve been my choices, but can be overlooked

[leaden iron]

It’s not “rap” it’s “musical rap” meaning, it’s not “rap” lol

[candid quest]

#media message
I'll see you in court. 😎

[misty haven]

@leaden iron you've stated that tlm is not doing good like Mario in China due to some government issue, but guardians 3 did well if you look at the amount from China.

[leaden iron]

80mil ONLY tho… Endgame did 630mil+

Which is the last “comparable” mcu movie

It’s still SEVERELY underperforming compared to where it SHOULD be

[misty haven]

Oh, I didn't know that

[leaden iron]

It’ll probably be 100-150mil in China, when it ends it’s run there

[celest cloud]

Uh oh

[short mantle]

What do you think the percentage rate of the mermaids that make deals with Ursula that actually get off Scott free

[coarse bridge]

Judging from her "garden" not alot.

[leaden iron]

I’d actually say “zero” in the present version; “enough to get a reputation but not enough to have discovered a strategy” in the animated

[celest cloud]

I've been doing some regular stalking my para social celebrity crushes online research for totally healthy, not weird and not obsessive reasons and I've stumbled upon an article that is of much relevance when it comes to the Scuttlebutt song. After reading through it I am getting the impression that maybe even Awkwafina herself thought it wasn't the best thing ever. I'm really getting those "yeah this may not have been the best usage of my talent" sorta vibes

https://insidethemagic.net/2023/05/awkwafina-are-you-sure-the-scuttlebutt-little-mermaid-mw1/

Now of course they don't frame it like that but I think I'm good enough at reading in-between the lines and reading general vibes

[leaden iron]

Obv, she’s not going to be confident on her vocal abilities, but then again, who would when told that they are going to be in a song opposite Daveed

[celest cloud]

Eh i'm sure she's confident enough. She made two albums and they're pretty okay. I like her songs My Vag and Ghost

I'm just speculating she wasn't that confident on this song in particular. I would compare it to Bill Murray and Garfield. Bill Murray does indeed hate that movie but he didn't really retire acting altogether afterwards

Besides I think it's stupid to blame David Deegs and or Awkwafina. They're just actors who were given a script to read off of.

The true villain was Lin Manuel Miranda. He wrote the song and thus all and any hate should be thrown at him

Dudes got a big ass forehead

[coarse bridge]

And Alan Menken.

[celest cloud]

Yeah him too. He enabled Lin Manuel Miranda.

[coarse bridge]

Which gave us Wild Uncharted Waters.

[leaden iron]

Again, when your duet partner is Daveed, pretty much anyone would feel anxious

[leaden iron]

I like the song (now, anyways)

[coarse bridge]

Its not the best song in the show, for sure, but its not any less entertaining, imo.

[leaden iron]

It’s tonally strange in the film, but it’s really used as a final chapter break before “shit goes off”, not a wrong choice theoretically speaking, as a pallet cleanser, but yet another strange choice, considering Lin Manuel would’ve written the song based on director and script/narrative requirements… so again, if you were to blame the song, blame Rob

[leaden iron]

Proving that Lin-Manuel is more than capable of writing a classic broadway musical style song, even though it’s his “rapping musical” schtick that made him famous and recognizable.

[coarse bridge]

"You'll be back." from Hamilton proved that.

[leaden iron]

Of course, but Wild Uncharted Waters is “written by requirements” with none of the off-broadway previews and reworkings, so in a way, it’s more impressive.

Shiny, is a strange and tonally different song in Moana too, but it works in that film because it’s anchored on a single “strange” character. Scuttlebutt is a bit “strange for strange sake” or “let us make sure people know Lin-Manuel Miranda wrote songs for this film” kinda thing… however, I guarantee that much like Jar Jar, the newer generation that grew up with it, wouldn’t mind the song in 10 years… assuming that the film is still looked at in 10 years… it may not… we haven’t rewatched any of the remakes (outside of the re-imagine like Cruella, Maleficent, and to some extent Cinderella) in lieu of the animated films with our son since we watched them in theaters. He PREFERS the animated ones, as he SHOULD.

[tawdry sun]

I don’t care

It’s ass

[tawdry sun]

Banana…… people don’t like the song bro

Like I can see why.

Spider verse gonna smoke this shit in theaters btw

[ancient gull]

Amen

[celest cloud]

Don't care.

[tawdry sun]

You talk about how people don’t like the song everyday LMAOO

Fym “Idc”

Outta here

[celest cloud]

People said pineapple pizza was bad

[tawdry sun]

It is

[celest cloud]

Even think reality is just okay

[tawdry sun]

K

[celest cloud]

Everyone can be wrong

And they are

#ScuttleButtIsntABadSong

Enough of this oppression

[tawdry sun]

K

[clear stone]

https://twitter.com/hollywoodhandle/status/1664638482910785539

The Hollywood Handle (@hollywoodhandle)

‘THE LITTLE MERMAID’ crossed $250M at the worldwide box office.

Read our review: https://t.co/FIqVQD6krT

Twitter · Jun 2, 2023, 2:21 PM

[paper hatch]

Don't think TLM is gonna make a lot of money, due to various reasons it's not doing well internationally and a lot of big movies coming as well.

[simple sphinx]

Make*

[paper hatch]

Thanks

[simple sphinx]

Np

[misty haven]

@leaden iron

China apparently has 32k opening weekend screens but yet still fall in 2.6 million, wouldn't you say it's more than just the government issue that Disney has?

[leaden iron]

It absolute is, because government’s been pushing anti-American and “china’s great” since just before the pandemic, and the pandemic exacerbated the issue.

It’s hard to explain “little red” mentality, and this isn’t the place for it either

Short taste: government’s trying to get PRIVATE businesses and high schoolers/University students to abandon “western festivities” like Halloween, Valentines, and Christmas, because “they are not traditional Chinese!” which, of course, makes zero sense, since they are COMMERCIAL activities in China, not cultural.

[tawdry sun]

yeah

It's gonna crash

[tawdry sun]

Ok after reading up on some shit

Looking into a lot

There’s definitely some racist foul play going on in China when it comes to this film.

[simple sphinx]

China always had racist problems when it comes to movies

[leaden iron]

Are we still on that? Of course it has, but governmental propaganda is the root cause of the regression in LGBTQ+ acceptance, racism, and foreigner distrust, and going ultra-nationalistic in both internal and global politics in the last 10 years or so.

[misty haven]

There's more to it from what I've seen, but it's off topic.

[leaden iron]

Mmhmm, and I can spend days on it, but agreed, that’s off topic here.

[misty haven]

I guess we could DM.

[leaden iron]

Yeah but not right now, kinda busy with family lol

[short mantle]

Omw seeing this

[dusky scarab]

Romy did you like Scuttlebutt
i did

[crimson flicker]

yes i did and i also liked that they didnt do the thing they did to "Be Prepared" with "Poor unfortunate souls"

[dusky scarab]

yeah that was a relief lol

[crimson flicker]

Like what they did to Be prepared was unacceptable

[dusky scarab]

oh i hated that sk much lol
ngl i gave this remake here a 4.5/5

[crimson flicker]

But i did notice the difference between the OG and the live action remake of both Lion King and TLM

[simple sphinx]

@short mantle did u like it

[leaden iron]

You mean cut it to 15secs… fuck that, pissed, the best song in the film, and they shortchanged it

Poor Unfortunate Souls in TLM remake, is anything, a bit too long lol

[short mantle]

In remake standards, I enjoyed it than the others

Like a solid 6

I liked the additional Ariels "in her head" songs

[short mantle]

It would've been better if it had Sora, Donald, and Goofy lololololol

[exotic sapphire]

Truuuuuuu

[potent scaffold]

This movie wasn’t bad

6/10 is fair

Pros:
-Bailey was good as Ariel
-MMC was good as Ursula
-Covers of the OG songs were spot on
-Nice lighting effects at moments
Cons:
-Acting otherwise was unremarkable
-Bad CGI
-The sea is too darkly lit
-New songs were awful (scuttlebutt especially)

[coarse bridge]

Even Wild Uncharted Waters?

[simple sphinx]

Awkwafina was hilarious as always

[leaden iron]

Most things would, remake KH

[coarse bridge]

@candid quest I cant attend the showing. I've arranged for that ticket to be refunded within 24-48 hours.

[candid quest]

Rip

[coarse bridge]

Sorry man. And thanks for trying. But walking is way too painful right now.

[leaden iron]

Shit, you ok?

[coarse bridge]

Too much salt. Foot flares up when that happens.

Its like a waterbaloon of pain that expands when you walk on it. I've got meds, it'll pass.

[tawdry sun]

Are you ok?

[tawdry sun]

Oh man I’m sorry dude

Take it easy

And rest up

[coarse bridge]

Resting up, no worries.

Its getting better by the day.

[tawdry sun]

That’s good

[agile cairn]

Very mid movie

[terse marlin]

https://youtu.be/hNiCTmwr4sA

[short mantle]

I usually look away from thumbnails that look like that

[agile cairn]

So do I, but the pitch meeting videos are genuinely hilarious

[deep relic]

I have to admit, this one is a little bit of a miss with me and I truly have tried to like it.

[dusky scarab]

Potentially might like this more than the original
making it the only remake tat would have that status from me

[leaden iron]

Same, but a fair bit of people also thinks it’s a crappy movie, so hard this say, polarizing film this one. And I think in all truths, Disney is probably going to lose 50-100mil on it. They can “gain it back by justifying its existence on Disney+ as a membership retainer”, but that’s just not sound business decision.

Hopefully Disney diehard like Japan can boost the numbers a bit this weekend when it releases there, but i believe it’s going to be a tall order for it to make 500mil global, which would break even on a 250mil budget.

[short mantle]

How much did black panther 1 and 2 make in the east anyway

[leaden iron]

105mil in china, 14.6mil in Japan for black Panther 1

15.5mil in China, 8.9mil in Japan for Black Panther 2

[dusky scarab]

Unfortunate that its not doing well, its the best remake and much inferior ones banked more.

Yeah, honestly? Remake > original for the first time.

Of all the ones to lose money lol

[leaden iron]

To be 100% fair, they could’ve just STARTED with making good remakes, now that they have a reputation, even if it was decent, the bad taste left by the earlier ones makes the audience not give them much more chances and will pick at everything wrong with it. Also, losing the Chinese market has a huge effect on it… Endgame made 614mil in China alone, and even if it just made 100mil in the country it’d push them beyond breaking even globally. Though China is an interesting case right now, even films like FastX which usually does well there, and Guardians 3, Mario etc, are making a pittance of what the same type of films used to make pre-pandemic.

So while there are genuine issues with how she looked (I’ve been hearing some criticism that are much more aesthetic than racism from local cinephiles) I think the biggest issue is the low attendance in China in general… people were locked in with extremely draconian measures close to 2.5 years, and that there’s a huge surge of mild covid cases happening right now, not to mention the aforementioned ultra-nationalistic, ultra-party, somewhat anti-foreign stance taken by the government. All that attributed to low China numbers, and that’s not just a Disney issue.

The card-carrying cinephiles in Shanghai I know had also been resorting to tiny private theaters that can project movies that are “off official box records” to have better viewing experience… increased amount of people all other the world had started to think that the movie theater is an extension of their homes, especially with the loud talking, irrelevant talking (about so and so’s dinner plans for instance), and phone usage. That’s a major problem in my theater for Rise of the Beast today, for instance. Late teen early tweens are talking out loud like it’s their living room. The reverse is also happening in China, as in streaming there are very centralized to 3-4 platforms, which are cheap 2-3 dollars USD equivalent a month, and carries the films as short as a month after it releases in theaters, that they literally can watch near first-run at home legally… so why go to theaters? The local economy regarding to films is very different.

[exotic sapphire]

Got ran over immediately by the spider sweep

[leaden iron]

Shouldn’t actually matter, people who’s decided to go watch the Little Mermaid already decided, the problem is that the film didn’t manage to pull in the “on the fence” people like Avatar 2 had… not enough wow factor, and PR push was (as is with all the Disney films of late) crap…

[leaden iron]

Well, TLM’s fate is pretty much sealed. Japan, one of the most Disney-obsessed countries, just had a 5mil opening weekend. It’s dead in the water.

[dusky scarab]

oof

[leaden iron]

Japanese fans were not buying the racism talks, they were like (super politely) saying “sense of incompatibility” regarding to her looks, and mentioned that while she’s cute and can sing amazingly, she didn’t fit with the aesthetic. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[exotic sapphire]

It's amazing how no one would complained if Ariel was a well known actress like zendeya instead

[leaden iron]

That’s basically it, they were asking why it’s not someone like Zendaya “aesthetic”

Or “a young Halle Berry” lol

I’ve read one comment saying she’s too short, but there’s an opposing comment saying that she wouldn’t look good with the tail if she’s too tall… Internet is funny

Oh here’s one “Jessica Lucas can still pull it off right? She looks young enough.”

[celest cloud]

This movie sucked

[paper hatch]

People abroad don't seem to get that a major requirement for the role of Ariel was the singing voice and Hailey is perfect for that.. plus it seems a lot of negative stories were directed abroad and that affected the box office.. domestic wise, TLM has done quite well

Look at this.. normally the international market is much bigger than domestic market, it's opposite here

Contrast that with another Disney live action movie Aladdin

[dusky scarab]

aladdin wishes it had anything going for it the way this one did

[tawdry sun]

Dude

It flopped

It’s worldwide box office was no where near what Disney wanted

[paper hatch]

I agree

[tawdry sun]

Maybe this will mark the end of these live action remakes

[paper hatch]

I doubt it, because the past Disney live action remakes have done very well and even TLM did quite well domestically.. they just have to adjust the costs now

[coarse bridge]

Ended on a good note,then. If you ask me.

[tawdry sun]

Was the film any good?

[coarse bridge]

Songs were good. Havent seen the flick yet.

[candid quest]

Morph, you feeling a little better to hit a show? It's on me again

[coarse bridge]

have they refunded you?

[candid quest]

They did, ye

[coarse bridge]

ok, then. if you wanna try again.

dm for details?

[candid quest]

Sounds good 😎

[tawdry sun]

Btw, you been taken it easy right?

[coarse bridge]

yah, i'm good

[tawdry sun]

That’s good

[candid quest]

I have confirmation that Disney's attorney will be seeing The Little Mermaid tomorrow. May our little soldier rejoice.

[coarse bridge]

Yeah, finally going back to sitting in a seat that's two sizes too small. Ugh...

[exotic sapphire]

If that live action lion king prequel is successful next year I'm gonna be sad

[leaden iron]

It will do good business, especially since Mufasa and Scar’s story was only told peripherally

[short mantle]

Like twice

[leaden iron]

I’m interested in a coherent Mufasa/Scar story

Tho… prefer animated lol

[short mantle]

They probably already did that

[celest cloud]

Disney is indeed capable of making incredible animated flicks, however, for some reason, they somehow choose not to

[lyric kettle]

🎥 The Little Mermaid

[earnest pelican]

Thank you Blaze

[coarse bridge]

Definitely going today, even if my friggin back says no.

[candid quest]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-applause-round-of-standing-gif-20790999

[dusky scarab]

Fuck backs, movies better 👍

[candid quest]

I don't think it's right that Disney didn't pay for Morph's ticket. They always make the little guy pick up the slack.

[celest cloud]

Wild Uncharted Waters, anyone?

Because as much as I hate this movie, Wild Uncharted Waters was a major standout for me

[coarse bridge]

For the last friggin time, I dont work for Disney. Please understand that, and for the love of Christ, stop telling everyone that i do. Its disrespectful.

I dont like it. Be a decent guy and stop. Please.

[candid quest]

Enjoy the picture

That's all I want 😎

[coarse bridge]

Stop enjoying taking the piss on my head.

That's all I want.

[coarse bridge]

Welp, time to take the bus.

[coarse bridge]

Love the darn song.

[candid quest]

Godspeed, little soldier.

[leaden iron]

🫡

[coarse bridge]

I hath returned.

[leaden iron]

How doth the soldier do

[leaden iron]

here's the revealing moment... "how sensitive are you with strange choices"

[coarse bridge]

Here's my review.

It was painful. It felt like i was being stabbed in the side by Vin Diesel, then like my asscheeks were getting the life squeezed out of them. The pain was lingering and it has only begun to subside. I'll probably feel that stab tomorrow morning when i wake up.

After i was finally done sitting down in a chair that was several sizes too small, the movie started.

[leaden iron]

I thought so, you bitch

play with mah emotions

But... why Vin Diesel?

[coarse bridge]

Riddick is good with knives.

[leaden iron]

https://tenor.com/view/but-why-male-model-gif-11945749

[leaden iron]

I'll take that, but how was your feelings on THE MOVIE

[coarse bridge]

Oh right, that.

[leaden iron]

And don't tell me "My life is a movie"

[coarse bridge]

I found it charming, delightful, artistic, audibly and visually stunning, and an improvment over the original in most respects. It is not the kind of remake i want to see dissapear, it is the kind i want to see prosper, and i feel sorry for those who feel obligated to lob this movie in with the other Disney disasters, and are clamoring for all of them to go extinct. Sure its not for everyone, especially those comparing it to the original at every turn, which i was not until the movie was done. Awkwafina's goofy awkwardness won me over, and i ended up jamming to the Scuttlebutt. I enjoyed all the ham McCarthy brought to the role of Ursula and I need not laud Halle Bailey's vocal performances any more than i already have, and the fact that i covered Wild Uncharted waters in karaoke should tell you how I feel about Jonah Hauer King.

All in all, this movie is part of my world.

P.S. Don't nobody try to yuck my yum.

[leaden iron]

no yaking yucking, got it lol

I liked the film a LOT for what it was able to do despite having to compare it to the original... the choices are a matter of taste, and unfortunately strange enough to some people that they can't jive with it. It's probably going to lose close to 100mil when said and done, which is also a shame, because it's not THAT bad, and that's just going to discourage the other inevitable remakes to try new things and manifest the director's taste.

Bombing in China, Korea, and Japan, sucks... but those are very aesthetic cultures, and as much as I argue that Halle Bailey is cute as a button, my wife (Chinese) and a few of my Korean and Japanese friends didn't think she measures up to the image of Ariel, and that's not a racial issue per say.

[coarse bridge]

"The image of Ariel". What does that even mean?

[leaden iron]

They wanted someone more like Halle Barry than Halle Bailey, in aesthetics

I donno, I don't really understand it

I think she's cute as a button

[coarse bridge]

She also sings friggin good.

[leaden iron]

Totally, though the choice of making it sound like a live recording while she is like, sometimes slightly strained from doing blocking or choreo, is another one of those strange decisions that to some people, hid her full STUDIO abilities, and they can't get over that either....

It's recorded as if it's part of a musical, for most songs...

Of course Scuttlebutt is fully produced... then again, that song probably is an outlyer in the minds of the filmmakers in the first place... it's a CHAPTER BREAK/AMUSE BOUCHE/PALETTE CLENSER

I don't agree with all the choices, but I have to say that all the choices together makes a coherent film that WORKS... which can't be said for most of the direct remakes

Directionally, it's coherent... my biggest gripes, as I've said before, are that Uncharted Waters had the most boring visual treatment of the song, just walking by the sea, and Under The Sea didn't have fish playing instruments, but the lyrics wasn't changed... they could've at least made more than the single moment where a sea lion was humming in tune to the music in that song, to make it set in that it's "metaphorical instruments".

[coarse bridge]

The sea creatures looked pretty dope in Under the sea. Not playing instruments, but lotsa well animated colorful critters.

[leaden iron]

could be MORE colorful, but that's just literal nitpick for nitpick sake lol

There's also a little bit of odd underwater physics issues here and there, but that's because Avatar 2 had came out while TLM is already in full speed post-production, and we suddenly can recognize "perfect water simulation"... if it had come out before Avatar 2, I doubt I'd even be aware of those.

[dusky scarab]

Happy you liked it Morpho! I really did too, if a 4.5/5 from me says anything lol

[short mantle]

Oh he finally saw it, that's nice

[coarse bridge]

Sorry it took a minute.

[candid quest]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-to-pay-the-bills-otto-gif-24110071

It was mandatory that Morph see the picture

[coarse bridge]

Yeah, now that you know how i feel about it, you can laugh at me some more. I hope it was worth the admission price.

[candid quest]

You got to see your movie and that's all I wanted

[tawdry sun]

Wait a minute……

OH NVM LMAO

I WAS CONFUSED LOL

[coarse bridge]

My sense of humor can be confusing at times, i guess.

[leaden iron]

But why Vin Diesel?

https://tenor.com/view/but-why-male-model-gif-11945749

[leaden iron]

Don’t worry, mine is worse, welcome to the beginning of becoming a curmudgeon, embrace it.

https://tenor.com/view/you-kids-get-off-my-lawn-cranky-old-man-suburbia-americana-gif-14239371

[coarse bridge]

Riddick and knives,man!

[candid quest]

I'm glad you had a good time, Morph

You deserve it, bud

[short mantle]

https://fxtwitter.com/Saberspark/status/1666489916757295104?t=ze8fw2hiztosEmVuOIfaHA&s=19

Asylum at it again

[leaden iron]

Eh?

https://tenor.com/view/but-why-male-model-gif-11945749

[coarse bridge]

Wow...has no one ever seen Pitch Black? Chronicles of Riddick?

[leaden iron]

No was a Zoolander joke

But taken too far, lol

[coarse bridge]

Lol.

[leaden iron]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-i-cant-hear-you-old-man-grandpa-gif-12841999

Can’t believe this is a meme someone made

[leaden iron]

You know what? The director/maker of Onward had REALLY stepped up his game… I need to stream this film sometime.

Dammit not available in Canada yet

[short mantle]

The poster is just her floating head

[short mantle]

Onward or homeward?

[leaden iron]

SorryHomeward

That movie is suprisingly watchable

Orcs and Elves working together eheeehe

[coarse bridge]

Woof...this is rough. When people talk of bad cg, this is what i think about.

[short mantle]

This is asylum at its finest

Even though there is a rumor that they got ai to help them out

[coarse bridge]

asylum?

[short mantle]

A studio mostly known for making rip-off movies

[coarse bridge]

Aha.

[leaden iron]

I NEED TO WATCH IT AS A RIFF!

[paper hatch]

https://twitter.com/Luiz_Fernando_J/status/1670617453720739841?t=0gQjX2-utKAK54lZ-k5tlg&s=19

Luiz Fernando (@Luiz_Fernando_J)

#TheLittleMermaid crossed the 200M mark overseas, after grossing 15.3M on 4th weekend internationally.
Solid hold despite new competition, -48.8%!!!
212.4M intl. cume over 52 markets!Added 253.6M in the US,#Ariel hits a 466M Global cume at #BoxOffice.
Eyeing 580M-600M Global run

Twitter · Jun 19, 2023, 2:20 AM

[leaden iron]

Basically, Disney makes 50mil on a 250mil cash investment and 250mil marketing lol

Though, 10% return on investment really isn’t bad, if you’re in finances

[tawdry sun]

If isn’t good for Disney numbers

And it doesn’t really mean they’re rolling in cash

[leaden iron]

Nope, it’s flat out shit, just not in normal investment terms

[dusky scarab]

Take a guess what song im in the far minority on lol

[short mantle]

It's almost like it's was deliberately made like that

[simple sphinx]

Scuttlebutt

[dusky scarab]

I wonder how you knew

[short mantle]

Lucky guess

[simple sphinx]

Lol

[leaden iron]

As a chapter break AND as a stand-alone it’s fiiiiine. But for a lot of people it’s not lol

[small flower]

.5/5

[lavish knoll]

Too low

[short mantle]

Oh I just realized the dot

[lone hazel]

Rumbi writing an essay

[lone hazel]

Cringe endurance test

[short mantle]

Bro imagine being invited to your relatives out of nowhere wedding and all wildlife starts attacking the bride, some random chick pops up throws hands with the bride, a magic happens and the wedding crasher's a fish and the bride was a octopus and they both fall off a cliff and 5 minutes later a flubbing kaiju appears

[lone hazel]

Roaaaarrr

[simple sphinx]

Flubbing?

[coarse bridge]

and the kaiju becomes a ship-kebab.

[daring pawn]

So is there any difference to the live action movie made in 2018

I just googled it it said, there was one made in 2018

[coarse bridge]

Night and day.

[daring pawn]

So no difference?

[dusky scarab]

this has a 3.4/5 average and the 2018 one has a 1.8, lmao
there ya go

[coarse bridge]

No there are. The plot is entierly different.

[dusky scarab]

But yeah literally everything is diff lol

[daring pawn]

Ok. Might watch this lol

[leaden iron]

The Little Mermaid is a Hans Christian Andersen fairy tale written in the early 1800s, a WHOLE bunch of adaptations were made, of various quality… the Disney ones are relating to Disney, which is a very loose adaptation from the fairy tale… the others are adapted from the fairy tale… some are even looser than the Disney one (see The Lure), the DISNEY remake is related to the Disney animated adaptation, the 2018 one is not.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Little_Mermaid_adaptations

[leaden iron]

If you want to see some more interesting adaptations based on the original Fairy Tale… I would recommend the 1976 Czech adaptation that interprets the mermaids more as water spirits, and the 2015 Polish adaptation that is a Horror Musical with heavy sexual content.

[solid sparrow]

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Director: Karel Kachyňa
Runtime: 84 mins
Genres: Fantasy, Romance
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The Lure (2015)

Director: Agnieszka Smoczyńska
Runtime: 93 mins
Genres: Music, Fantasy, Horror
Rating: 3.36 (28.61K)
Stats: 40.59K • 22.3K • 9.96K

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[leaden iron]

@daring pawn do NOT make the mistake of watching the 2018 adaptation based on the fairy tale…

[leaden iron]

The 2023 Disney Remake based on the Disney animated film is polarizing, some people love it and some people hate it, but at least it has good production and a coherent (like it or not) story.

[leaden iron]

@misty haven well, looks like The Little Mermaid will get pass 500mil worldwide after this weekend, which means Disney will make 50-100mil after VOD and Streaming. They got lucky.

My local theater has a nearly sold out small theater… for 3 showings, the 4th (too late for kids) is empty

[misty haven]

Oh wow, cineplex

Which province is that at?

[paper hatch]

I'm surprised this movie is actually crossing 500 million dollars because initially due to disappointing foreign box office returns, many thought it wouldn't even cross that.. I'm glad it did and it should have earned more as the movie is fantastic

A rare situation where domestic box office is more than foreign box office

[exotic sapphire]

Damn why did us Americans actually eat this up

[dusky scarab]

Because its great

[short mantle]

Besides Aquafina song

[dusky scarab]

personally i like the song lol

but ive said that 50 times already

[coarse bridge]

Because its the one Disney remake that isnt complete fecal matter.

[paper hatch]

TLM is actually pretty good but the negative campaigning affected the foreign box office markets..

[leaden iron]

BC

[leaden iron]

Scuttlebutt is weird in the movie, but as a stand-alone song it’s quite catchy, ngl

[leaden iron]

It’s annoying that they went with the Woke/anti-woke audience bully tactics, which somewhat worked in North America, but didn’t change the strategy abroad, and didn’t work.

[misty haven]

ON Toronto here.

[coarse bridge]

Everybody thought it was just gonna be another dumb Disney remake with cold expresionless fish.

And bad performances, shoddy CGI, the works.

[leaden iron]

Some people still choose to see the faults rather than see the good, because it is a remake.

[coarse bridge]

Cant change people's minds. Even if the good things are obvious. I tried.

[tawdry sun]

Like what?

Scuttlebutt?

Nothing good about Aquafina screaming into a mic with her raspy voice

Like I can understand why people didn’t want to see this.

[coarse bridge]

If the movie was 2.5 hours hours of Scuttlebutt, i'd agree.

[tawdry sun]

OH THATS NOT THE ONLY THING

that’s an example

[coarse bridge]

But since Scuttle butt is only like 3 minutes, its fine.

[tawdry sun]

3 minutes bro

That ain’t short

That’s advarge song length

[coarse bridge]

Some songs go on for....ack nevermind.

[tawdry sun]

SOME

Some go for 2

[coarse bridge]

All i can say is i liked the movie.

[tawdry sun]

That’s fine

But I can see why people didn’t/ didn’t see it

Saw this last week with my little cousins

[coarse bridge]

People did see it, it passed half a million worldwide.

[tawdry sun]

Under performed

[coarse bridge]

So? Am I supposed to say it sucks and i hate it?

[tawdry sun]

No, never said that

That was in response to you saying “People did see it, it passed half a million worldwide.”

Implying that my statement, it flopped was in fact incorrect.

[coarse bridge]

Ah. Sorry.

[tawdry sun]

Nah

I’m the one that needs to say sorry

I came off as agressive

I apologize

We cool?

[coarse bridge]

Yah.

I'm a magician, i can make DrMac appear just like magic.

Joke.

[tawdry sun]

I got a question

So

Like

How many wife’s does Titian have?

[coarse bridge]

7, one for each Sea. Makes sense.

The daughters each rule one.

[tawdry sun]

Wait

So

He has 7 right?

[coarse bridge]

yah

[short mantle]

"so help me Ariel, I'm going to get through with you"
aims the magic fork at her

[leaden iron]

Well, as of today, The Little Mermaid is making 26mil (~5% return on investment), and it'll probably be offsetted additionally 50mil from D+ when it eventually goes there.

In the eyes of the Disney Spin Doctors, I think they will tout it as a great success.

[paper hatch]

Considering the hate is received, it is absolutely a success plus that hate and review bombing is one of the main reasons behind TLM not doing well internationally

Like it made 283 million dollars domestic and 242 million dollars international..

[celest cloud]

I think its more so all these releases clumped together

[leaden iron]

I think that and everything else, combo reasons

[coarse bridge]

I had a hunch this movie would somehow pull through.

[simple sphinx]

It’s a decent remake

[clear stone]

https://twitter.com/whentostream/status/1676806430484045827

When To Stream (@WhenToStream)

The Little Mermaid (2023)
Streaming: July 25, 2023*
PVOD (Apple, Amazon, Google, etc.)
*Date confirmed
#TheLittleMermaid

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186

Twitter · Jul 6, 2023, 4:13 AM

[leaden iron]

Me too, but barely

Film started dev in 2016, 5-8% return on investment over 7 years really isn’t that great for a high risk investment like a movie.

To be fair, since Disney did their own distro and marketing, and with the film at a budget of 250mil, I wouldn’t exactly put it at a double as normal… I would venture they’ve spent more like 150mil on distro and marketing… still, they don’t make really a huge amount on international… I’d say they are between 80-100mil profit at the moment…

[paper hatch]

540 million dollars is not a lot for this movie but I didn't even think it would reach this amount

[leaden iron]

Probably nearly 100mil in profit for Disney, since they handled their own distribution and marketing

[unique coral]

same here

i shocked when its crossed 500 million

[unique coral]

i think they more then the 100 million

[dusky scarab]

Im not sure if it is a profit actually

250 mil budget * 2.5 = 625 break even

Right?

Or does them handling their own marketing/dist change it to just 250 * 2 = 500

[unique coral]

i thought its 100 million budget movie

[unique coral]

ohh

[paper hatch]

Don't know if it's a profit but it certainly didn't flop as I thought it would

[dusky scarab]

Yeah it wasn't a huuge loss

[unique coral]

it will make some money from the dvd release

not more then 2million i think 🤔

better box office then the Flash

[dusky scarab]

better movie than the flash too lol

[unique coral]

and the flash releasing in digital next week

[unique coral]

yep

[dusky scarab]

What'd you give this one outta curiosity

i gave it like a 4.5/5

[leaden iron]

2x, but modern studio films gauge by 3x since they consider overheads other than budget, distribution, and marketing only.

[dusky scarab]

Ah

[leaden iron]

As normal audience, I don’t care what they pay as bonus to internal staff OR profit sharing.

So I prefer to look at 2x

[unique coral]

7/10

[leaden iron]

Not going to make it any more profitable or really make a dent in the losses unfortunately.

[coarse bridge]

Who woulda thought,right? A bad movie that, while still being seen as bad because Disney Remake, is good.

Defies logic,really.

Wasnt it supposed to suck like all the remakes that came before by unavoidable design?

I thought that much was set in stone. What happened?

Psyche. 😜

[candid quest]

🦗

[coarse bridge]

You've been a great audience, thanks. 👍

[leaden iron]

Remember to tip your undersea waiters

[rocky ferry]

What do y'all think about The Scuttlebutt? I think that song is so annoying

[leaden iron]

It grows on you

[dusky scarab]

I like it tbh

[paper hatch]

That song is not that bad

[short mantle]

forgor

[coarse bridge]

I love the double time near the end. Lin Manuel's strength.

[tawdry sun]

I wanna die

Scuttlebutt makes me wish the gift of sound was never given to man kind

[paper hatch]

https://twitter.com/Luiz_Fernando_J/status/1679590927046672395?t=DlN6RyflYU2PStBR_G63Ew&s=19

Luiz Fernando (@Luiz_Fernando_J)

#Disney will milk #TheLittleMermaid as much as possible before it hitting #DisneyPlus.
#Ariel will hit digital PVOD in the US on JUL 25 (60 days after debuting in theatres) & physical Homevideo only on SEP 19 (115 days after theatrical debut) with no mention of its Disney+ debut!

Likes

336

Twitter · Jul 13, 2023, 8:37 PM

PVOD is a lucrative platform these days. Universal made over a billion dollars in past few years from PVOD sales alone.

[tawdry sun]

Come on man

It's not gonna pull it out of anythnig

it's over

[paper hatch]

What's over ??

[tawdry sun]

This films box office run

[paper hatch]

I'm not talking about box office run. I'm saying it may make some money from PVOD sales like other movies, that's all.

[tawdry sun]

oh

My bad

[paper hatch]

And, all PVOD sales 100% belong to the studios unlike box office and so if they can leverage it, it can help.

[tawdry sun]

As an apology I'll kiss your helment

Hold still

MMMMMWWWWAA

[paper hatch]

No problem

[coarse bridge]

Awww...❤️

[leaden iron]

Nope, platforms takes up to 25%, average is 15%

And movie theaters really only takes an average of 18%

Studio has to partition box office with distributors, but at least that is “per seat”, while VOD is per view or “forever”

[paper hatch]

This is from Indiewire, I was wrong.. studios take 80% in total from PVOD sales. I don't know where you got that 25% number .

https://www.indiewire.com/news/box-office/universal-pvod-revenue-1234872814/

[tawdry sun]

I mean i guess it makes sense when you think about it

Because the DVDs are on sale for years after the film is in theaters

[smoky goblet]

i loved this movie i just couldn’t stand sebastian

[short mantle]

https://vxtwitter.com/DisneyAPromos/status/1683555756237258755?t=1-O7-ScqHBXtnaVCZwh6HA&s=19

[deep relic]

Loved M3GAN. Did not like TLM 2023.

[daring pawn]

Although the song gave me chills, I prefer the other water movie named Avatar. Did not like this movie or the actors.

Flounder looked like wtf kind of fish is that lol

[celest cloud]

There's no way I’m watching this garbage ever again

[celest cloud]

i havent watched it yet but i have seen enough reviews to not waste my time. wont watch snow white either till i read reviews

[coarse bridge]

Its not as bad as all that, imo.

[native dew]

I still haven't seen the movie, but apart from the race change and lyric changes for "Kiss The Girl", there's honestly nothing wrong about it. At least that's how I see it after viewing the trailers.

I'll give this movie a chance once it's on Disney+.

[coarse bridge]

I meant here. Sorry.

[native dew]

Oh it's all good.

[mint mountain]

Well that was really boring another garbage disney remake. Not my least favorite, but still really bad.

[daring pawn]

I even waited it to come out digitally lol. Scroll up to see my other comment.

[paper hatch]

I thought this movie was quite good, even better than the original animated movie for me which I wasn't a fan of.

[leaden iron]

Animated better, but this isn't bad, honestly

[celest cloud]

Indiana Jones is gonna lose them hundreds of millions. Love to see it

[simple sphinx]

Mid movie

[simple sphinx]

I keep forgetting that Indiana Jones is now owned by Disney

[coarse bridge]

is it not a Paramount thing?

[clear stone]

https://fxtwitter.com/disneyplus/status/1688565712737161217

[celest cloud]

Disney bought it in the Lucasfilms deal

and took like 10 years to make a movie which at this point lost them more money

It'd be really funny if Captain Marvel flops too like this year was already horrendous enough for them we might as well

[coarse bridge]

The aim isnt always to make money, its to be entertaining.

And to me, which is more important, TLM and Indy both were.

I dont care if a movie's a flop, i care if i have fun watching it. Fair enough?

[clear stone]

Really

[paper hatch]

The aim of studios is absolutely to make money which is why, normally when a movie doesn't do well it doesn't get a sequel.

But for us personally yes, the movie should be entertaining first but if we want a sequel then it has to make some money.

[coarse bridge]

If the aim were to make money, they wouldnt spend so much making them, that's how flops are made.

Diminishing return from investment.

[paper hatch]

The over spending in Hollywood definitely is a huge problem but they also expect to make a lot of money from spending so much.. sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't.

But again I seriously doubt the studios are spending so much money to make people happy and don't expect money to be made.. that's not how business works.

[coarse bridge]

I mean,sure.

[celest cloud]

Yeah and only Guardians managed to do that so what's ur point

[coarse bridge]

That its possible, as you've said..

And movie studios should do it more often.

[celest cloud]

Well Disney sure as shit ain't doing it often

[coarse bridge]

From a certain point of view, sure.

[clear stone]

Their thinking in this wasn’t to remake it for entertainment was it

Let’s be real

[celest cloud]

Yeah like let's be real here they thought about the bag first

[coarse bridge]

Eh. Could have gotten an Ariel that cant sing like in Beauty and the Beast if all they cared about was the money.

I believe there was some genuine effort put into the TLM remake, as opposed to, say, the Lion King remake.

Or Pinocchio remake, god forbid.

[clear stone]

Effort doesn’t mean it wasn’t for the money

They might’ve got someone that cared I.e Rob Marshall but the decision to make it definitely was money

Saw that Aladdin box office and had to get more on the table

[celest cloud]

You’re literally not understanding me

I said “it’s what they thought about FIRST” my guy

[coarse bridge]

My bad.

[coarse bridge]

I'm just saying. Maybe we need movies with lesser budgets, but more entertainment value. Altho the math seems to go "budget equals entertainment value."

I dunno, just throwing my 2 cents.

[clear stone]

It’s interesting to have opinions like this and then continue to wildly support the studio most guilty for it

[celest cloud]

Yeah Disney films are like most contrary to that statement my guy

[coarse bridge]

Just cuz i like a movie doesent mean its gonna do well. That's hardly my problem.

[clear stone]

That’s just

Not at all what I said

[coarse bridge]

I dont support Disney, i just like what they do. Whatever financial situation or social situation they get themselves in has nothing to do with me.

[tawdry sun]

So, do you support Disney doing that stuff?

[coarse bridge]

I dont care what they do. If i'm interested, i'll watch.

If they get wise, they'll pour less money and more actual thought in their products,sure. But what happens to them if they dont, that's not my problem.

[deep relic]

No actually the purpose really is to make money. There are stockholders and all of that sort of thing. I’m pretty sure that Disney corporate would most definitely say the purpose, in fact, the only purpose to make a movie is to make money.

Actually, I’m on think about it. I think you’re actually probably right. They have been a lot of movies. I did not pay for the box office that I later found out a really awesome.

[coarse bridge]

Then they should work at the mint.

[deep relic]

Hahahha

Fair

The more I thought about it the more I actually agree with you though now that I really stop and check myself.

There are people who pour their heart and souls and life’s work into a single film, and they are not worried about the money. They are doing an absolute ultimate labor of love. Sacrificing many hours in some cases, sacrificing a different life with their family and living in different locations. There actually is definitely more to it than making money.

[coarse bridge]

And i'm aware not everyone figures that way.

I know in a buisness you make money, and it is the priority.

Or else you have to close doors and whatnot.

But i gotta believe that there are genuine storytellers out there who spend so much time on their product that it becomes a precious thing for them.

If movies were just a cold, soulless affair, people would look elsewhere to feel what they feel during the epic, memorable screen moments.

T2's ending would have been very different if James Cameron didnt give a shit.

It...wouldnt have made me cry.

Movie's should exist to make people feel things, because let's face it, that's what they pay for.

It should exist to inspire others into doing their own movies and fall in love with the art all over again.

If you do shit just to turn a profit, there's not nearly enough love and soul and feeling and humanity in the finished result.

In my humble opinion.

[clear stone]

https://x.com/disney_uk/status/1699331687354913187

Disney UK (@Disney_UK)

It's time to go under the sea... and on to @DisneyPlusUK 🤩

#TheLittleMermaid is streaming now!

Twitter · Sep 6, 2023, 8:00 AM

[paper hatch]

https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1701330050799296761?t=B6wHhmlBNdWlWwX_yu3UrA&s=19

DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm)

‘THE LITTLE MERMAID’ has broken records as one of the most viewed movie premieres ever on Disney+, with 16M views in its first five days.

Read our review: https://t.co/PZEXT5wLtP

Likes

7947

Retweets

1138

Twitter · Sep 11, 2023, 8:21 PM

[coarse bridge]

I'm so glad. This was one of the better ones.

[paper hatch]

I agree

[dusky scarab]

i honestly have a lotta love for it

[steel belfry]

This was good

One of the better live action remakes

[short mantle]

Time to watch an almost 2 HOUR long analysis vid about how it's "a pathetic remake"