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what about 3 digit numbera?
you can
both your questions would cancel each other
so its literally js 300 - 1
including 0 includes smaller numbers
lmao just understood thyr
huh uhhhh idk js numbers with 43 in it
na i think only 4343 being common is the problem
yes
correcting for an overcount is quite a common thing to do in combinatorics
you can include 0 here because of any number of digits
for larger number of digits
you might have to use inclusion-exclusion
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The trig sub?
You need to split the second fraction into something of the form $\alpha \frac{2ax+b}{(ax+b)^2 + c}$ and $\frac{\beta}{(ax+b)^2 + c}$ where $\alpha, \beta, a, b, c$ are all constants
bloubbloub
Both of which have nice antiderivatives
Also there are tricks you can use for partial fraction decomposition
Should I split up the -x and +2 and bring the negative to the front
This isn’t homework it’s js stuff I do in my free time so I generally just do everything out
Unless if it’s like
Literally arctanx
Or something
HAHA was js typing this
Sure but solving systems is wayyyy more time consuming than just doing it the "simple" way
I think it's right
Do you know where I could check besides here, I tried asking all the math teachers at my school but there’s only 2 calc teachers and one is too busy and the other doesn’t have free periods the same as me
Well there are websites that can calculate integrals
Any suggestions for any specific ones
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159 Mi piace, 7 commenti. "Dimostrare che: Σ_{n=0}^{+∞} [ 3^(−2n−1) * ( 4·3^n·n^2 + 2n^2 + 4·3^n·n + 4n + 3^n + 2 ) ] / [ 2(4n^4 + 12n^3 + 13n^2 + 6n + 1) ] = π^2/12 − (ln 3)^2/4. ”
How to solve this ?


use screenshots if you have an actual question
What exactly are you stuck on about this?
It looks like he already answered the question?
If you just have a question like "hey I saw this integral in a video and I was curious ..." then it would be fine, but if you're just grabbing questions to try and trick people or waste people's times that's not particularly nice.

wut
Are you taking to yourself my guy?
who says you can't send screenshot actual problems
Go ask the moderators
<@&268886789983436800> they strike again
This was the reasoning given last time he posted.
to be fair, he is doing what we asked of him.
Oohhh I was confused. It looked like he was moderating himself 
Can i use inducution here?
.
no one's gonna open a tiktok to help you
isolated as a screenshot
to be honest, this problem looks gross, and I doubt you'll find anyone willing to help you with it.
then no
@rapid crescent write out each term and summation it to infinity by hand
the most likely thing that will happen is you factor the numerator and denominator, some things cancel, and you're left with something that is a variation on the basel problem and something that is a variation of some other well known sum
Mmm
@HenryWhitmore
@brazen quiver A user wrote to me yesterday in DM because he was kicked out of the discord, what should I reply?
I don't know what to write
If they were kicked, there was a reason. Honestly, don’t reply.
Move on.
He told me where the reason is written
Anyway lets focus on the question
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yo
can someone help me understand induction proof on recursive algorithms
i dont quite understand
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im only asking because i thought inductive proof was intended for positive integers
It’s induction on the number of characters
Those are integers
And the base case for induction can be any integer, 1, 20, 0, -15
i see
Induction can also go downwards, and doing both directions gives all integers
so this reads "character 1 of length 1" "character 2 of length 2"?
No, that's "character 1" followed by "character 2" and so on until "character k+1"
s has length k+1
Depending on how it’s defined characters won’t have a length or if they do it’s length 1
oh what i meant is up until C_k thats length k
thats k long
like c_2 is 2 long
... no, c_1c_2 is 2 long
If you want to talk about a substring, you can introduce a new notation, but c_2 is a character, not a substring
As such, it has no "length" property
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Hello
I need help giving some 8th grade probability independent and dependent problems solving and determineg if they are
I have a test tommorw
Ping me whoever can help

you need help giving problems or solving problems?
I don't get your question. please be more specific
Giving problems and going over them
then not what help channels are for
Huh
Then what is it
Cause I’ve done this before
no
read
do your own homework then
I finished all of it
why not search for some problems online, try them, and then show us where you're stuck on them
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Can anyone please tell me if I did this correctly?
that's correct
I have these small improvements for you though
- it's not 3x^3 - 5x^3 ofc, it's 3x^3 - 5x^2
luckily that didn't affect the rest of your working
- align your work! -5x^2 should be directly above 4x^2
the way you're aligning your work right now, it's very easy for you to make arithmetic mistakes
also you forgot the bracket, so it's -(6x - 18)
that's not too important though, as it's clear you're subtracting correctly
no worries!
,w (x^4 - 5x^2 - 6x - 10) / (x - 3) quotient and remainder
What's this
do you see it now?
go on https://wolframalpha.com
type this in and you can check your answers
Ok thank you
oh yeah you needed to write (x^3 + 3x^2 + 4x + 6)(x - 3) + 8 out, as per the question instructions
but I suppose quotient = ... and remainder = .... is also pretty clear
no worries!
Ok
if you're done type .close
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Who can help me?
No, it hasn’t.
Hello! @spiral plume
First you can choose ❌ so that the channel won't close
2nd, have you tried expanding lower powers first?
E.g. (x+y+z)² and (x+y+z)³
Yeah, I tried expanding (x+y+z)² and (x+y+z)³, but I’m still stuck.
Could you explain a bit more how that helps with the fifth powers?
The next step would multiplying those 2 so that we can get x⁵+y⁵+z⁵
Oh wait
I mean
Aaaa, it's hard to type
(x²+y²+z²)(x³+y³+z³)
So we will have x⁵+y⁵+z⁵ among the terms
As you may have done with this:
x²+y²+z²=-2(xy+yz+zx)
and
x³+y³+z²=3xyz
Ah okay, I get it now! So we end up with B=0, yeah?
Oh, i didn't calculate the answer, sorry
It has to be zero if there’s a unique answer b/c scaling
Thanks a ton, bros
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Is this fine
I think the last part requires some justification thoug
if there were only finitely many numbers making up the sequence, we could construct subseqeunces converging to each of those points fixes it
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ok so
we have a bounded sequeunce x(n)
into the real numbers
then we define the seqeunce y by y(n)=sup{x_i : i>=n}
prove y(n) converges
I think it's easy to show y is monotone decreasing
and then y should also be bounded
yes
but thats all i thought of so far
I think we will started by x is bounded
well thats it
monotone + bounded implies convergent
monotone convergence theorem
There are another method
By using ε
sure if you hate yourself
so ima just say that
they mean that you are supposed to use mct
ok
i didnt know cuz
we didnt have lectures on it yet
just we were supposed to read rudin
and figure it out
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Can someone please explain why $\sum_{k=2}^ \infty \frac{1}{\ln(k)}$ diverges? A series converges if $\lim_{k\to\infty] a_k = 0$ and the limit $\frac{1}{\ln(k)$ as k goes to infinity is 0
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$\lim a_k=0$ does NOT imply $\sum a_k$ converges
Denascite
So uhh, if the series converges, that implies that the limit of the series is 0?
the limit of the terms of the series is 0, yes
You just also explained another question that I had for a while
why the harmonic series are divergent...
oh my god, I always thought that if the limit of the terms of the series is 0, then the series is convergent
ohh this clears up so many issues ive had
I will revisit the subchapter again
thank you so so so much Denascite
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What have you tried?>
I did The area of the circle / The area of the rectangle
And you got..?
a fraction sounds right
I have a question: What if the diagonals of the faces of the die are equal to the diameter of the circle?
you're supposed to treat the die as a point, i think.
Then the math gets a lot harder
Here you treat the die like a single point, yes, like ann said
very good question, valid concern, but the thing is they just assume its a point
also since when has a die been 1 meter across
ok and Where Do They Say This Assumption Is Justified
im not justifying it
but they should at least specify it in the problem
as well they might also be making the assumption that the die landing at each position of the square is "equal" (uniform or something i forgot the word for it)
all of these should be specified
go for it
I think the second argument is wrong even though the conclusion happens to be correct.
What makes you think that?
The argument is that since there are only two possible outcomes, the probability of each outcome is the same - 1/2 - but we must check if the number of odd numbers = the number of even numbers on the die
Yeah, you're exactly right
It's not about the number of outcomes, but the actual chance of reaching each outcome
Yes, thank you.
btw the die could be unfair: that is it might be possible it rolls more of one number
Is a cubical die fair?
i mean they drill holes for the sides to indicate what number u get so there is mass difference on each side. also this is more physics than math
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Does this work for the forward direction
notation is messed up
all kinds of nonsense
(\exists (x_n)\to x)\subseteq A
using epsilon that wasnt defined
stating (x_n) != x which is a type error
x_n != x wasnt established earlier
Okay, i'll get off discord after thsi
get off discord now
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i wanna know how i can prove y is -2
do i get x in terms of y
then substitute in
but then i’m still left with 2 unknowns
elimination is the easiest
what do you mean by this?
if the equations have the same sign (- or +) then you can subtract one from the other
indeed, so 4kx and 2kx have the same sign
eh idk
i feel like we learnt this a different way
i found this from my class resources
do you understand why they turned x - 2ky = 5 into 3x - 6ky = 15?
they multiplied by 3
yes, but why?
exactly
so okay, if the 2kx becomes a 4kx, we can eliminate it
so what do you have to do to 2kx - y = 4 to make that happen?
south w the clutch
algebraically correct, but yes you don't want to do that
you don't want to eliminate y
my point is that if you eliminate x, you only have y
okay so i have 4kx - 2y = 8
correct
keep going
so now i subtract one from the other
yep
awesome thanks
i started teaching myself integration yesterday
i got up to area under a curve
interesting
you'll find that a lot of integration exercises require a ton of algebra
you'll see yourself in your book or whatever
yeah that’s what i was learning using
just sat down for 3 hours and did it over and over
oh yeah it's not that hard to learn the reverse power rule
$\int x^n \ dx = \frac{x^{n + 1}}{n + 1} + c$
south
i was doing the x^n+1 / n+1
and then with definite integration you do (upper value - lower value)
what does in respect to x actually mean?
so +c - (+c) cancels out
yeah limits
do you know the rectangle sum definition of integration?
no i do not
each rectangle has a tiny, tiny width
learn that first
they're called Riemann sums to find the picture online
oh i’ve done that before
that width is along the x-axis
and d() means a small change in, so a small change in x
splitting up the area under curves into 3 parts then finding the area
cool and then the heights of the rectangles are f(x)
did it in biology
damn
okay so that's actually a rule called the trapezoid rule
that's a legit calculus thing, yes
seriously?
like splitting up the area under curves into rectangles
to find an estimate for the area
this is with trapezoids though
but rectangles also work for the approximation
isn’t calculus itself like splitting the area under curves into infinitely small rectangles to find the exact area
Can't you use like any polygon for approximation
Although it affects the accuracy ofc
yeah we did something like this. but with triangles on top of rectangles
it's not actually about polygons
which are just trapezoids, so yep
Wdym
the base of the shapes needs to be flat
it's a good idea to close this channel and open a new one
so that other people see this new question
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Hello! I made these three limits, and I don’t know if they’re correct. Can someone correct them?
Can you send the limits?
yes.
Thanks!!!! My mates where telling me that was the last one was undefined
And I was like no?
which one? The 1^𝑥 one or the (1/2)^x one?
Lim x->infinite 1^x
It’s not indefinite, right?
Also, are you sure? I love your bioxd
Only if you plug in ∞ directly
If you even put a giant number it’s still 1.
1^𝑥 = 1, 𝑥 ∈ C
Thanks!!!
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Bro that's not indefinite obviously
No bro infinity isn't a number
I get that?
I never said it was.
also @wintry root has your questionn been answered?
Even if you tend it to inf, it's still gonna be 1
Exactly — which is what i already have stated.

Anyway what question are Y'all discussing
it’s been answered, and you can check the pinned messages.
There's no pinned question ig
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hi– i found this on a practice for a math olympiad in my country and i don't understand it fully
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Hartshorne example 6.5.2 : On $Spec(k[x,y,z]/ (xy-z^2))$, let $D$ be the divisor $(y, z)$. Why is $div(y) = 2D$? The textbook says $y = 0 \rightarrow z^2 = 0$, but I'm not sure what that has to do with $div(y) = 2D$. Don't we need to localize at $(y, z)$, find a uniformizing parameter, etc. ?
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“y=0\—> z^2=0” is shorthand for the same
local observation: at points of the divisor (y,z) the equation
xy=z^2 forces y to look like a square of z up to a unit, hence
the vanishing multiplicity is 2. The rigorous way is exactly the
localization argument above (find the uniformizer z in A_p
and compute the valuation of y).
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f(x) = 1/3, 0 ≤ x ≤ 3, the variance is 0.75.
I am confused, why the variance wouldn't be equal to 0? When are we deviating from the mean in a constant function?
I understand how to calculate it but intuitively I would think it would be 0
I would like an intuitive understanding of it
the density might be constant, sure
but that doesnt mean the random variable is
like if we have a fair coin we also have a "constant" density p(head)=p(tails)=1/2 but clearly we can get different results
same idea here
the density is constant but the random variable could be any number from 0 to 3
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just want to check my answer since the key doesnt have it
i drew a circle with radius 3 around the origin, with dotted lines to show it doesnt include the border
then dotted lines along x=2 and x=-1 to show those arent included either
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could use some labels, but it's fine otherwise
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can someone help me put this into REF form
That seems like a pretty difficult way to start this
Back to the beggining note that if you perform R2>R2 + R3, R2 looks quite similar to R1
So I’d start there
You could also do R3>R3 + R2
Instead of the other
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So you're trying to get R1 and R2 to be simular
That's a possible way, sure
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Is this true?:
If a characteristic function is Riemann-Integrable, such function must be piecewise constant
what do you mean by a characteristic function?
also what do you consider piecewise constant
from my book
one last thing, is the domain of the characteristic function all of the real numbers or just some interval?
well look at 1_Z where Z are the integers
its reimann integrable with integral 0
but its not constant on each of a finite number of intervals
Sorry, the set must be bounded, that's my oversight
I mean in the case I'm trying to apply this to that is
also Q is not bounded or am I missing something
maybe u meant Q intersection [0,1]?
makes sense. But yeah, not Riemann Integrable
take the set $A = \left {\frac{1}{2^n} \mid n \in \bN \right }$
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its closure is itself with 0, and that set has measure 0, and thus 1_A is Reimann integrable
but you have infinitely many discontinuities, so the function 1_A cannot be piecewise constant
so you have infinitely many discontinuities but not so many that the measure of the set of discontinuities will be greater than 0?
yeah
you just have countable amount of discontinuities
and countable sets have measure 0
so it cannot be piecewise constant clearly
yes
ahh that complicates things
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Can anyone check if my answers are correct
also if my meanings are correct for part a
anyone??
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Yes, all its correct, also, generally be patient
it was 15 minutes
the meanings too?
i didnt know if i worded the meaning for -0.13 properly
yes, usually consider that "a" is usually just called the rate of change
But you got the idea right
Is by how much the water level changes per unit of time
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how do i solve 0 = -0.6 |x-3| + 6.5
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You assume first that what's inside the absolute value is greater than or equal zero and solve it
Then assume that what's inside the absolute value is smaller than zero then solve for it again
@low pulsar understandable?
First, divide both sides by -0.6
sorry dont get it
i did
it gives 10,83 = |x-3|
i dont get this part
to be able to solve these problem
They might have multiple answers or just one answer or none
So to make sure
We first check if a solution exist if what's inside the absolute value is greater than 0
In your example
X-3
Because we assume that it is greater than 0 we can remove the absolute value brackets and solve it normally
If the final value of X matches our initial assumption, then the answer is a solution to the problem.
wait dude im so sorry i did a mistake
the 0 is in the wrong placr
f(x) = -0.6 |0-3| + 6.5
-0.6(-3)
+6.5
?
Umm
So what is exactly the question
Like a point on the graph ?
You are trying to find y intersection
So you substituted x = 0
That is correct by far
yeah
The absolute value turns negative values to positive values so |-3| = 3
,calc -0.6 * 3 + 6.5
Result:
4.7
nice
Yes correct
alright thanks for ur help
but
0 = -0.6 |x-3| + 6.5
what if it was this
this one i dont know how to solve
Here you want the x intersection
As I said you first assume that what's inside the absolute value is greater than 0
So |x-3| = x-3
Then solve it normally
If the final value of x atchieves the first assumption then it is a solution
I assumed that x - 3 > 0
So |x - 3| = x - 3
what do i replace the x with
alright how
By solving for a single unknown variable in a linear equation
You can search that up in YouTube if you don't know what is it
Here X is an unknown variable I want to find its value
So by solving for it we want to try find its value
We usually do that by trying to isolate x on its own
ok but what happend to the initial equation with 0 = -0.6 |x-3| + 6.5
So first let's assume that what's in inside the absolute value is bigger than 0
Meaning x - 3 > 0
This makes
|x -3| = (x - 3)
We substitute it in the original question and solve for x
0 = -0.6(x - 3) + 6.5
0 = -0.6x + (-0.6)(-3) + 6.5
And then you can complete
ah
so what if it was now it was x - 3 < 0
After we solve for the previous case we can find that
,wolf 0 = -0.6x + (-0.6)(-3) + 6.5
Here as we can see x is 13.8333
Checking the first assumption
13.8333 - 3 = 10.8333 > 0
Assumption is true
Then this x is a solution
After that we want to find if there would be a solution for x - 3 < 0
So we assume that x - 3 < 0
This will make
|x - 3| = -(x-3) = (3-x)
Then we will do as we did earlier
@low pulsar understandable?
i see yes
@lost jackal last question
what form is tis
like i need o find the surface of this
The surface area?
I think it's easier if you took the area of the whole shape and subtracted the area of the smaller shape from it
how do i get the area of the whole shape
like its not a pentagon
i need to like divide it into shapes
Dividing it like this will make it easy to calculate the area
After that we want the area of the unwanted shape
Calculate them then subtract
how do i find the height of the triangle
ohhh
nvm
i know how
aalright ill do that thank you
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basically i made some adjustments to what i found on wikipedia but this is what I have
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\text{Let $R$ be a binary relation over $A$ and $B$. Then we have the following definitions:}
$R$ is called left-unique iff $\forall x \in A, \forall y \in A, \forall z \in B, ((x,z) \in R \land (y,z) \in R \implies x=y).$\\
$R$ is called right-unique iff $\forall x \in A, \forall y \in B, \forall z \in B, ((x,y) \in R \land (x,z) \in R \implies y=z).$\\
$R$ is called left-total with respect to B iff $\forall x \in A, \exists y \in B, (x,y) \in R$.\\
$R$ is called right-total with respect to A iff $\forall x \in B, \exists y \in A, (y,x) \in R$.\
$R^{-1}$ is the binary relation ${(y,x) \mid \exists x \in A, \exists y \in B, (x,y) \in R}$.\
$R$ is called a function from $A$ onto $B$ iff $R$ is right-unique and left-total with respect to $B$.\
$R$ is called an injection (injective) iff $R$ is a left-unique function.\
$R$ is called a surjection with respect to $A$ (surjective) iff $R$ is right-total with respect to $A$ and is function.\
$R$ is called a bijection (bijective) iff $R$ is an injection and a surjection with respect to $A$.\
Let $T$ be a binary relation over $B$ and $C$. The composition of $T$ and $R$, denoted $T \circ R$, is the set ${(x,z) \mid \exists y, (x,y) \in R \land (y,z) \in T }$.
Julian
i felt like it was necessary to say with respect to for the totality ones
but wiki didnt
does respect make sense or is there a better way to word it
or should i say over domain R / range R
or over its domain
/ over its range
oh shoot i messed up hella stuff
Julian
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so for left and right total it is necessary to give some indication we mean on B and A respectively of course
it feels awkward saying with respect to, especially for the bijection
is there a better phrasing
maybe from A and onto B?
i feel like onto is reserved for functions maybe
for the unique ones there might be an issue too cuz
if A' is a superset of A and B' is a superset of B
R is a binary relation over A' and B'
but
the definition could be contradictory
oh shoot i could just say over A and B in every case
is this correct?
does all of this make sense
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are those from a reference?
edit from wikipedia
what do you mean
for example in this definition
Let R be a binary relation over X' and Y' as wwell
where X' and Y' are supersets of X and Y respectively
so those bullets are your summaries of statements from Wikipedia?
could be injective with respect to X and Y
yes
but could not be injective with respect to X' and Y'
im assuming its implied
?
i changed the wording
to be more specific
the wikipedia definitions allows for contradictions I believe
alr i think its fine
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hey guys just checking, if we were to calculate something say P(X=1)*P(Y=2), thats probaiblity 2 out of 10 drivers are drunk AND 1 out of the 10 drivers are not wearing seatbelt, it also include case where 2 of the drunk drivers may be the one that is also not wearing a seatbelt so we have cases where there is only total 2 people committing all the offences
sounds like it, yes.
oh haha i see, thanks for the extra calrification
i was thinking about it and i thought i might have gotten crazy
but ive asked the math teacher, ill do some revision on other topics while i wait for the reply
thanks man, u have a nice day
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Careful, you can only multiply probabilities if the events are independent
If they are not, you would need to apply inclusion-exclusion
ah i see, thank you for teling me
thats a very tricky things that i should consider everytime i consider AND probabilities
but im supposed to multiply them in my question in this case right? when they say the two infractions are independent of each other
Yep, weird setup but yeah theyre independent so you just multiply them
ye i know right its weird
how would u solve the question
Need inclusion-exclsuion since they're not disjoint
P(drunk OR no belt) + P(drunk) + P(no belt) - P(drunk AND no belt)
Since independent, P(drunk AND no belt) + P(drunk) * P(no belt)
Once you find P(drunk OR no belt), call it "p"
You then just do Binomial(10, p) and plug in 3 for the parameter to find the probability that exactly 3 are drunk or not wearing a belt
have a great day man
np, you too
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Is this result valid for checking convergent?
Limit comparison can be done ig
To see if it matches the corollary
Yeah ig
What we have to do tho?
Check if its divergent?
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kinda stuck on this
not even sure where to start
well
I notice that the first group has an highest order element of 8
and the second group highest is 4
but thats about it
hm so if f is an homomorphism from G to G'
we have |f(G)| divides |G| and |G'|
so if we have a homorphism for this
nvm that wont be useful here
maybe I can use f(g^n) = f(g)^n
and find an element where this is false
also notice that it says onto
like the trivial homomorphism exists but isn't onto
whats the trivial homomorphism, f(g) = g?
so what you are looking for is some element that, no matter the homomorphism, is "unreachable"
also notice that $\forall g\in \bZ_8 \oplus \bZ_2$, we have that the second component of $g^2$ is 0
artemetra
there are no generators right
of Z4 Z4?
I thought external product of Zm and Zn is only cyclic if m n are relatively prime
that's true
I think I got the solution
rought draft solution srry for poor handwriting and grammar
does this seem right?
got that mixed up a bit
there exists an element of order 4 ot lower in Gbar that is mapped to by an element of order 8
wait hmm
that makes this wrong then
yeah this proof is wrong idk what I was writing
I need some sleep 😭
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Hello Im new and I needed help with this question
i think this step is wrong
you can't take the limit of part of the expression like that
otherwise you could say $\lim_{x\to 0} \frac{\sin x}{x} = \lim_{x\to 0} \frac{0}{x} = 0$
if x = 0, sine of x gives you 0. In the second to last line, you divide 0 by 0. It gives you undefined. i believe in that case you must use l'hopitals rule
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lim of sin^2x/x^2 = 1
by l'hopital, if u like
Why not simply by squaring sinx/x ? 🤔
yes also that
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how do i find a variable in the terms of a constant
do i make the equation equal the variable?
something like
x = 2k
where k is the constant
i can give an example
find y in terms of k
what do i need to do?
would it be - -2 or just -2
2ky-(-2)=4
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when we have a sum that goes from 0 to n, and we wanna do n-->n+1, do we only change the upper limit of the sum? im talking abt the case in which n is also inside the sum
so something like $\sum_{k = 0}^n 2k$?
Mikya
nono lemme write my example actually
sure
,tex
$\sum_{i= 0}^{n} n $
fijokazż
just this
uh
What do you mean by 𝑛 —> 𝑛 + 1?
Its i-->i+1
u=n+1
this will just end up as n^2, no?
its not abt the sum's result
No, there’s no indice of 𝑖 in the summand here so it’s really undefined, unless 𝑛 is constant?
,tex
$ \sum_{i=0}^{n} in $
fijokazż
this. what if we sub u=n+1
Then n=u-1
No its still the same number
yes, but what would the inside be? n×i or n×(i+1)?
n×i
sorry meant (n+1)i
you defined it as in, so it would remain in
Because only n changes
only the upper bound changes
yea but n is also in the sum
n itself still remains the same
And? Its a constant
doesn't matter, n's value is practically unchanged
yeah thats what confuses me
ok do you understand pseudocode?
i didnt think of it like that
idk what it is
I is the variable that is bound to the sum
let me write down in a sort of code-like manner what happens
interesting
Describing algorthims without a programming language
your original summation is this.
var result = 0
var n = {some value}
for(i = 0, i <= n, i++) {
result = result + (i * n);
}
what your modification does is simply this.
var result = 0
var n = {some value}
for(i = 0, i <= n + 1, i++) { // one more term is added because of the upper bound + 1
result = result + (i * n); // nothing changes here
}
the loop runs n times in the first summation, n+1 times in the second
but both times, notice that (i*n) is getting added to the result
that's because the summand didn't change, only the upper bound
you can test this with some small values of i and n
coding doesnt work for me lol
raw testing should
but thanks for trying
try i = 5, n = 3
wdym by "i=5"?
If $f(n) = \sum_{i=0}^n in$ then $f(n+1) = \sum_{i=0}^{n+1} i(n+1)$
Nel
in here
It's kind of unclear what exactly you're asking
I thought OP said to increase only the upper bound 
but I suppose it's worth a clarification
waitttt noooo
Sorry sorry
i meant what Nel wrote
ahhh
my question was if we just sub in everywhere
Also, $\sum_{i=0}^n in = n \cdot \sum_{i=0}^n i$, n is a constant
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Find (p-1)^(p-1) mod p, with p = prime
Do you know Fermats little theorem?
Ah, yes.
So?
I think it says that if p is a prime then (p-1)! + 1 is divisible by p
Fermat's Little Theorem states that for any prime number (p) and any integer (a), the number (a^{p}-a) is an integer multiple of (p).
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nope, it didn't
the power of p-1, not p
$a^p - a=a^{p-1}$
Icephoenix
Wait
No
Sry
But you can formulate it to $a^{p-1}$ is congruent to 1 mod p if the common largest factor of a and p is 1
Icephoenix
Oh, a^p - a = a(a^(p-1) - 1)
Hence a^(p-1) - 1 = 0 (mod p)
a^(p-1) = 1 (mod p)
Putting a = p - 1
we get (p-1)^(p-1) = 1 (mod p)
is this corect?
but p - 1 = -1 (mod p)
Hence (p-1)^(p-1) = -1 ^ (p-1) (mod p)
p = odd => p-1 = even
=> (p-1)^(p-1) = -1 ^ even = 1 (mod p)
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hi
Wait i'm going wash me pls
What?
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