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yep correct
YESS
that’s correct
THANK YOU
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Just kinda need help understanding this. So g is from P(A) to P(B), defined by g(X)= B-X, for every subset X of B. Does that just mean g is from P(B) to P(B)?
that's kinda weird cause g should be defind for every value in P(A)
And if f(X) is defined for every subset X of A and g is defined for every subset X of B, would that make (gof)(X) defined for every subset X of A?
lucky who understand math
So g should be for every subset X of A?
I think my prof might’ve made a typo in the question. Either that, or I’m just slow.
I guess, worth checking
because its weird if g is defind from P(A) it doesnt specify what will be the output of {1,2,3} for example
maybe im also missing something so maybe wait for someone else...
I just thought g should be from P(B) to P(B) since g(X) is defined by every subset of X of B which is just the power set of B
So g(X) is defined for every element of P(B)
Which is why I’m confused as to why g is from P(A) to P(B)
well you can still compute B-X even if X is not a subset of B
How would I prove it’s one to one tho?
given that P(A) has 16 elements, you could just write down what g(X) is for every subset of A
that will also help you better understand what is going on
Why does it say g(X)=B-X for every subset X of B tho?
Thats what I thought at first but I’m not smart enough to know for sure haha.
So should g be from P(B) to P(B)?
I think they still mean P(A) to P(B)
but its impossible to tell. can you ask your teacher?
Yea thats probably a good idea. Thanks for the help.
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Can someone explain me this result in the comment of this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgvmJTmJIKs
(Sorry, the two images below are reversed, but I did not manage to put them back in order...)
Explanation high school level if possible... I understood the video, but not this comment with a lot of likes...
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first time ive seen someone ask for math help on a teded riddle
I understood the video, but not the comment...
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Nobody? OK, I'll retry tomorrow...
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Alguien me puede resolver es trabajo practico de funcion cuadratica, lo ocupo para el jueves.
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Alguien me puede resolver es trabajo practico de funcion cuadratica, lo ocupo para el jueves.
Resolver no, pero podemos ayudarte mientras lo haces tu mismo 🙂
Tienes algún conocimiento de este tema?
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el problema es que tengo que entregarlo para el juebes y no se como resolverlo no entiendo nada
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Ps es lo básico sobre funciones cuadráticas
Buscando información por internet supongo que en dos horas podrías aprenderlo por completo
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He's asking for someone to do his homework
Also, this is Spanish
k then but the ruls stat that we canot do their home work we can help tho
Yeah, but you know how this world is
I know
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How would i do 64
Would it be 2logbase2of3 + logbase2of5?
that seems fine
you wouldnt, but you can split it
?
split log_2(20) into two logs
you want things in terms of log(5), so get a log(5)
then see what you can do with the leftover
But wouldnt the leftover be log(4)
it would
How would u write that if u can only use log(3) and log(5)
Oh
log_2 (20/9) = log_2 (2^2) + log_2(5/9)
So it would be {2 + log(5)}/2log(3)?
hm?
-, not /
how did you get that?
Ah
2 + log(5) - 2log(3)?
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I don't think you'll be able to solve for any length yea
you'll have to work entirely within areas which can be a little restrictive
what do you think is a good approach to solve the question?
the only interesting thing is that the slope is constant and the spacing along AB is constant
your goal should be to find the area of the leftmost fifth piece, but to get you started on that I'd try to think about what the difference between the two shaded regions really looks like
Yeah the orange region is 3cm^2
I don't see how useful that'd prove
yup, now think of the difference between the light-shaded and the white region
if you can relate the two shapes you'll have the entire area
this grid system might help, you don't know the length/width of the lines but it'll still be useful
right thanks, let me have a look
These two triangles are similar right?
hmm wait maybe i should use your grid system
okay basically fromt his i have that right + top = 3
to get the answer i need to find 2 * Right
I think i'm missing one little detail maybe
wait what's right and top
the red thing you shaded a few messages back is worth 3 grid rectangles, and the difference between white and light-shaded is 4 grid rectangles
yeah right + top = 3
how do you know the second part? 😭 i'm confused
This is my "naming" scheme btw
R + T = 3
i have to find R + R
oh gotcha
try to see that T is half of R
using like triangle is 1/2base*height
like you can just see T is 2 triangles and R is 4
yeah i agree with you but like that's because of your grid system right?
I can intuitively also see that if i rotate T clockwise i can have the otherpiece of T
and T + T = R
yea
since the slope and segments are constant you get to make this huge grid of similar triangles
oh i see it now
u mean like this right?
those two are congruent triangles
now rotate the upper one to the left or right
does that rotation still work with a very skinny grid?
no i guess
you might have to disect and shift things around instead of rotate
idk i wouldn't see the T = 1/2R tbh
your grid works but i don't see an actual justification
like for the grid at all?
Nah like dismissing the grid entirely
you're kind of inventing a variable x for between the segments and a variable y for slope*x
oh
yea there are cute ways to rearrange the triangles
I can see R +T = 3 but i can't make the connection for R + R
by deducing that T = 1/2 R (this part i can't really justify)
the rest i get now
do we use a pictoral argument for this part?
and yeah i think i follow
it's the rotating thing again, i guess, right?
well you're rearraning this time
Like my issue is when i'm right here
I don't see how i'd instantly go
Oh yeah 2*T1 + 2*T2 = R
If that makes sense
actually I guess it's not quite that
more that a triangle is half the area of the rectangle it's in
oh i see and you're claiming that T is 1/4th of its rectangle?
whereas R = 1/2 its rectangle
That's fair yeah, thanks
like a big one
I guess this rectangle?
flip this thing and it kinda is 1/4th of the
golden rectangle
ah yea that's good
Oh yeah btw i had a different argument for this problem
I wanted you to confirm if this is valid
sure
can i extend the left half like this?
and claim that extended triangle also has base n?
no, I'm not sure how far out that would be
there's an answer I'm sure but it's not obvious from the problem setup
oh boy
Result:
58
Result:
45
there's like a sequence of areas where it goes down by a constant amount, like 10 light-shade, 6 white, 2 magic golden triangle you drew
yeah the triangle thing gets exactly 45
so it's just luck then?
yea
wait i might be dumb
i don't really follow
are you talking about from the dark region?
😭
i think i can follow actually
they're all just congruent triangles
but that's under the assumption that your height is also 2
unless that's by construction
uh this is from that light-shade is 10 and the difference across areas is 4 because of that whole shaded-area logic
the way the problem is set up the length and width of the pentagon can be anything, but at a constant grid area
where is this problem from it's kind of wild
_>
baiting me into olympiad geometry
i'm sorry
idk if it's olympiad
but i don't think it's regular geometry
at least imo
i don't do competition math either
i just thought this was approachable so i wanted to try it
gotcha
okay so just to confirm, you basically do this whole thing with grid lines lol
at least to see the extended thing is "n"
yea I started from that the slope is constant so there's all these equal area things
yeah fair enough, thanks!
Btw can i ask the other question?
sure
I'm guessing the other one is probably harder 
It's this
first thought was finding the side length of the equilateral triangle
but that wasn't pretty so that wasn't the way to go i guess
using sqrt(3)/4 s^2 = 120 but yeah
through some geometry i did establish that BE: EC = 1:2
and also DF: FC = 1:1
how do you know that?
oh lol
maybe i wasn't trying hard enough after that one
like you can cut it up into 4 equal pieces and they all have the same height if you tilt your head so the top right is the base
height from AC to B
wait so you're claiming that BD = BF = height?
oh yeah
i mean pictorially it does look like it lol
uh F isn't related
just that these 4 triangles have the same base/height at a certain angle so the way to draw BD is to go 1/4 along AC
I guess the problem doesn't say it but I saw it as drawing BD to cut in 4, DE, to cut in 3, and EF to cut in 2
but doesn't that change the height?
sorry i'm lost LOL
if it's at an angle then you can either have that angle influence the base or the height
gotta rotate it and it looks normal
they all have the same height so to divide into 4 the base is 1/4 each
Oh i think i get you
do you mean something like this?
BD * AC = 240
BD * AD = 60
AC/AD = 4
so AC = 4AD
so DC is 3/4 of AC
and we had that DF = DC
no clue how you're starting that
stating this?
or this?
the 240 part
oh BD isn't a height
oh, it looks like it in the pic
wait
it still gives the same conclusion you had right
These questions are getting to me
😭 rightt
I think i'm just generating all these fake solutions
😭 sorry
hilarious that it again works though
okay so i can't use this at all right?
btw before i making new fake solutions
can i even say h_A-h_D = h_F?
wait
this kinda looks like the other problem lol
wait another idea
the base AD generates ADB and that has area 30
the base DC and generates DCB which has area 90
AD/DC = 3
?
Nah this one feels wrong
but it again just works
uh the numbers are meaningless but that's sort of the reason AD/DC is 1/3 yea
okay what's your reasoning again?
the picture splitting it into 4 above, each triangle has equal area and height
so 1/4 area means 1/4 base
oh yeah that picture but i don't get the "equal height" part
BD is not equal to this though?
do i have to believe the pictorial representation? 😭 is there a mathematical justification
I'm dumb 😭 to make pictorial arguments
oh god yea I'm like full visual learner
like the heights are clearly equal right 
Why AD/DC=1/3?

U gotta look at the rotated pic plurmorant posted i guess
Is it ur assumption sort of thing
Damn
the problem says you draw BD to cut the triangle into 1/4 the full triangle area
so like clearly you do it 1/4 along the length
Why


this #help-42 message and this #help-42 message
It's doesn't necessarily have to be like that?
Ok lemme see
yea I show that the heights are all the same
If it was given like this then Ad/dc would be 1/3
But here BD isn't = ED ryt
Ok well
Maybe it's right
idk what E does here
the problem starts with all the triangles are 1/4 the total area
in these questions u can do randoms tuffs
Is EF perpendicular to FC
no
Grade 8 yea we are supposed to do this stuff ig
that's why i asked
this is too hard 😭
The other question was crazy too
ugh
Ok I will read all of them now 
unlucky
wait
this is your labeling btw?
just so we're on the same page
no F
maybe it's easier to see it as you cut in half at h', then cut in half at D
maybe it's about a perspective on how the problem is constrained
you can't figure out how to make triangle EFC until you've drawn everything else, since E and F are free to move along their sides
but ABD is fixed because A and B can't move
I think i can see your pov
It's all so stupid
we conjecture that green is the height of ABC
I didn't do 8 grade now that I think
orange also has height green has height
so (BH)(AC) = 240 and (BH)(AD) = 60
divide both the equations and you have AC/ AD = 4
frfr 😭
this is insane
holy smokes
good luck
Yeah I can't even come up with some fake soln
😭
Plurmorant will give u some soln ik
whatttt
so we're assuming that EF is perpendicular to DC right?
oh yeah it is because DF = DC so it is a perp bisector
yeah i think solving this part is trivial
the annoying bit was the altitude thing
nice nice
thankss
wait just so we're clear
you find FE right with pythag

that isn't even nice
question asks for FC
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hey everyone
If I am trying to prove that given f is continuous, then so is |f| (via epsilon delta definition of continuity) could I show via alternate triangle inequality that $||f(x)| - |f(x_{0})|| >= |f(x)| - |f(x_{0})|$ and $|f(x) - f(x_{0})| >= |f(x)| - |f(x_{0})|$
Zouni
all smaller than some epsilon
is that sufficient given f is assumed to be continuous?
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I need help with this i feel like in overcomplicating it. question d
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Try changing everything in terms of cos(x) and sin(x).
Basically, get rid of tan(x) and cot(x).
I tried that in last step but i think thats overxomplicating it
No. You need to do that at the beginning.
Basically, adding the two terms together is already a misstep(in the sense that it makes it unnecessarily convoluted).
Should i do that in all such probs?
Well, some people do that. It tends to make things simpler if you don't remember all the identities.
It's not really the case that you should always do it though. It's about trying things and learning by experience. After enough practice, you would be able to see multiple ways of doing such questions in your head.
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hey uhm can someone correct me here if im wrong?
the question states:
Upper and Lower Bounds Show that the given values for a and b are lower and upper bounds for the real zeros of the polynomial.
and for the first example we got $$2x^3+5x^2+x-2$$ with a = -3 and b = 1
ates
so i tried b = 1 but clearly it is not a zero of this polynomial
-1 is
as i know we divide x-b (for b>0) with the polynomial
so we divide x-1 with the polynomial
however, i used synthetic division and when we use this way we take -1 and turn it into postivie ( as i know we are doing it the same with negatives to positive ) because clearly for x-1 x = 1 is the zero
my question is am i wrong at stating that -1 is the zero and not 1 ?
well, i tried b = -3 as well and thats not a solution either
i think i know upper and lower bounds theory incorrect i just checked an example given by the book and it makes no sense tbh.
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i realized i know this theorem wrong, so got one question now
could u tell me if a zero can be an upper/lower bound?
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I am new to rigorous math, my question is that what is the relationship between The Field Axioms and other axioms like ZFC, PA etc…
I know that you can prove PA using ZFC, but I can’t find anything that relates field axioms to other axioms, is it really axioms or just a list of rules?
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while axioms are indeed fundamental rules or properties assumed to be true without proof they are not typically derived from other axioms within the same system instead it provides the framework upon which mathematical structures and theories are built
So what is Field axioms really?
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Yeah?
Cause a multiple of y1 (t) gives 0 when you sub it in
Since t^(-1) is a solution to the DE, the question says
As in $(k y_1 (t))' = k (y_1 (t))'$ and so on, so you are multiplying everything by k, but that's just k * 0
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Given:
AD is parallel to BC
ADC = 120°
BAD = 3CAD
E is a point on AC
ABE = 2CBE
On the line AC, a point P is taken such that ABP = DCA
Find the ratio of CBP to ABP.
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For [
y'' +3y' +2y = e^t(t^2 + 1)\sin(2t) +3e^{-t} \6\cos t + 4e^t
]
What would be a suitable form for a particular solution? Please note I am not meant to be solving this; just need to find a somewhat reasonable form to put down
So i guess the last two terms are pretty direct
but im unsure how to handle the first
basically you combine everything
im trying to think of it logically so like i dont get extra unnecessary terms that will eventually cancel
even though that would still be correct
the polynomial seems like it will always be a power of two if u differentiate the first term twice
okay
so i guess it really is something like
,, \8{Ae^t}\8{Bt^2 + Ct + D}\8{E\6\sin{2t} + F\6\cos{2t}}
it’s sorta close
maybe like
,,e^t\6\cos t\8{A_0t^2 + A_1t + A_2} + e^t\6\sin t\8{B_0t^2 + B_1t + B_2}
i was thinking of putting a coefficient in front of the e^t's but thats redundant
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yeah that’s pretty good
though the insides of the cos/sine terms are 2t but i think that was just an incidental mistake
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oh yeah
righty thanks
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Im trying to solve this problem about finding the volume of a general spherical cone. My answer seems to be missing a factor of 1/3 though. Does anyone know where I made a mistake? Thanks!
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Can this be integrated without using Ln 2+tanx? I haven't tried it myself yet
I'm sure you could find some strange way to write it in terms of other functions
But the answer is literally ln(2 + tan(x)) + C and I don't personally know why you'd want to complicate that further
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Hey, been stuck on for ages, meant to use integration via substitution apparently, thanks 🙂
This is a special kind of substitution called a trig sub. Seen much of that?
a bit, not given what the sub was so not sure
ik tan^2 + 1 is sec ^2 so might try that
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hello
can this also be
5t/26
(-25/26 )*sint
thats what i got
idk how tf i got that b4
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8y'=y^2-2y-15, y(0)=-2
how to find the explicit solution y(x)
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Hi @wild nymph I believe we have a solution for this question. Start by factoring the RHS and then this shows us that this is a separable equation.
yeah I did it
ok sweet!
we got this is you want to compare
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Can someone explain to me how this came into being?
(xiii)
chain rule
where did they change the variables?
who wrote this book
yeah its supposed to be dX not dx on the first equal
But there is not need to. f(ax+b) = f(X)
Wouldn’t the derivative just be ‘a’
sir
it does make sense
X=g(x)
but
it just isn't true because this implies that d/dx f(ax+b) = a^(j) d/dx f(ax+b) for all a for all natural j which clearly isn't true
Where did you get j from? I don’t understand
the formula is written in your book is wrong
it's stating that
d/dx f(ax+b) = a d/dx f(ax+b)
but this implies that
d/dx f(ax+b) = a d/dx f(ax+b) = a^2 d/dx f(ax+b) = a^3 d/dx f(ax+b) = ...
sure
or just by multiplying the original formula by
a
and then comparing
and repeat
so then a==1 which is not always true?
yes
Yeah the formula would have to be incorrect then
then why is this even valid?
it isn;t
it's just written incorrectly
they're trying to show you the chain rule
What does a== 1 mean?
oh
a is always 1
dw we use it in programming to assign variables
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How did this became 2/14? Dont you need to add 3/14 and 7/14 since those were the pages?
Since its P(A) + P(B)
Oh so thats why its equal to 1 instead of those odd numbers?
Oh i get it now ive been so confused
I was doing multiple solutions earlier cannot understand why i havent got the same exact answer
It was just some simple logic
Thank you!
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Sorry for asking such a dumb question, but my friend has been bothering me with it for two days. He wrote " -1 = i x i = √-1 x √-1 = √(-1)(-1) (under the same root) = √1 = 1" thus proving -1 = 1. Can someone please explain where is the error, I don't get it.
Iirc sqrt(a) * sqrt(b) = sqrt(ab) only holds where the square root of a and b are real numbers
Thanks, i've been telling him this he keeps on gaslighting me you can... Thanks again!
Np
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How did this became a non mutually?
what is the non mutually formula
ok
How?
So I think 'either one showing a 4'
means that we accept one of the dice showing 4 but not both at the same time
...wait
Suree
hmm i think this question is a bit poorly worded if that is the solution
If my interpretation was right
We should not count the case where both dices show 4
And the probability is 10/36
How did it became 10/36?
There are 36 possibilities with 11 having at least one 4 showing
(4,1),(4,2),(4,3),(4,4),(4,5),(4,6)
(1,4),(2,4),(3,4),(5,4),(6,4)
exclude the case (4,4)
then it would be 10/36
Ohh got itt thank you!!!
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Why is one of the solutions, x=pi, for the below equation not graphed on desmos nor geogebra?
I am not sure; maybe it's something with Desmos's precision. I tried 0.9999999 instead of 1, and it works.
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how to prove $\lim_{x\to \infty}\frac1x = 0$ using $(\varepsilon, \delta)$ definition of limit
babario
Can anyone once again explain where and how multisets are used?
Oh shit
Wrong place
We can use |1/x-0|<epsilon
And |x|>delta
Then find connection between epsilon and delta
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shouldnt it be $|x-\infty|<\delta$?
babario
No x is increasing and going to infinity so we use |x|>delta
X-infinty is -inf and by mid it's +inf so doesn't make sense
i dont quite understand
what do you mean "by mid"?

so like x is closer to infinity than delta is so |x|>delta and then |1/x|<1/delta so as long as i choose delta=1/epsilon the limit holds true?
Ya
how to verify it tho?
say $\delta=\frac1\epsilon$, we have $|x|>\frac1\epsilon$.
from $\bigg|\frac1x\bigg|<\epsilon$, taking the reciprocal we also get $|x|>\frac1\epsilon$
which checks out?
babario
erm <@&286206848099549185> can anyone pls help validate my ans?
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so i start of with x - x/1 =7
no
or should it be x/1 - x
i meant x - 1/x = 7
yes
write out, as an expression, what exactly ur question wants u to calculate
Yes
It's a quadratic in disguise
But this time you're not looking to find the roots
x^2 + (1/x)^2 = ?
so no reason to do that then
i mean the roots would be x
Yeah so don't find the roots (unless you want more steps)
and with x i can find the sum
Nope, the sum of their squares
oh true ture
x^2 + (1/x)^2 = ?
ok so im practicing for a timed test
so i definately do not want more steps
if i shouldnt look for roots
what am i doing
system?
Ah wait so yeah there's a way to get from x - 1/x = 7
To x^2 + 1/x^2
Can you see what that might be given the ^2?
squaring both sides?
Yep, exactly
45
Nope
inb4 freshdream
kekw.
ok nvm
x^2 - 1/x^2 = 49
Jesus Christ
im him
$(a + b)^2 \ne a^2 + b^2$
south
oh shit
mhm
@formal kettle btw this was me predicting u were about to do that
nah we just playing dw abt it
right, now distribute
(x^2 - 2 + 1/x^2) = 49
ye
now do this
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a, b, c are real numbers. If then which of the following may be true
b) 1/(3-2..5) is greater than 1
"may be true"?
e) 1^2 is equal to or lesser than 1*2
ok i need some more context
yes
b) might be true? consider a - b > 1
are there some restriction to a,b,c?
ok
i typed it myself cus its wrongly formatted
im guessing they ask for all a,b,c
ok
but none of this is true though lol
what did you say again?
ok maybe start one by one
for b) you consider any case where a- b > 1
and that isn't true
is it?
a = 3 and b = 1 for example
it can be true
yeah
sure
i was thinking a = b = 0
Is it me or I see no c here
then you have undefined for A)
thats what im saying
anyways
A is pretty straightforward
B can be
C can be
D straightforward
E can be....?
It's a bit too generic of a question tbh
there's no correct answer
yeah

i think ima just leave it like it is
Like, 3 correct, 2 wrong
they're all false
and can only pick one
none of them is true
it really depends here
We don't really know if any of them is true
But 2 are certainly false
if it depends then everything is true
if that were they case there usually is a "none" option
for a) consider b^2 = 0 so you have 1 > 1 which is false
A and D are 100% false
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choose C
if u had to choose
I'm p sure that's what they want you to choose
alr thanks
hahah alr
unless a = b = 0
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shouldn't this be non differentiable in 3 points?
do the end points of the given codomain also count?
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I think its only not differentiable at x=0, x=-1, and x=1.
all points are solid implying they exist within f(x) too, (including the codomain).
thus there should be no other reason why they are not differentiable
points being solid implies continous
but it cant be differentiable if there is a sharp turn
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I got it wrong but I want to know how to do it and what I did wrong, but basically just need someone to explain it to me
ok so
suppose you
have
-(a+b)
after you remove parantheses what will you have
note: - can be treated as a -1
-1 + a + b ?
nope
so when you have parantheses
it means the terms are locked there
and all you can do is multiply them 1 by 1 out of the parantheses
so it will be -1(a+b)
take them one by one
-1 * a + -1*b
Oo so basically multiplying them by -1
Ok so there’s always a 1 there even if it’s adding or subtracting
yes
And then once you do that you just add like terms and solve like normal
yes
Hol up le me see if I get this right
sure
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how to find radians
I answered it as $\frac{-4\pi}{6}$ but that's wrong.
rynite
should be $\frac{-4\pi}{3}$
rynite
but I don't know why
Remember the full circle would be 2π
But this is 4/6 of a whole circle
yeah but im still not sure why it's -4pi/3
im new to this
I'll ask a completely different question. It does relate to the original though:
Let's say there's 2π pizza. It's been cut into 6 slices. You took 4 of those slices. How much pizza did you get?
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can anyone explain this
I thought it was e^x*cosx
or I it may have click
when u derrive something out it doesnt change the inside
which is
$\frac{d}{dx}(f(x)\cdot g(x))=f’(x)g(x)+g’(x)f(x)$
y0shi
Ive never fully understood d/dx , I only understood derrive, but some have dv/dt
well think of d/dx as just a notation for taking the derivative
dr/dt
basically the left side says take the derivative of f(x) times g(x)
ye ok, ty. You may help me even understand Dv/dt= dV/dh*dh/dt
anyway your message is noted
very good rule infact
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I need help with a math induction problem
sure
Prove using mathematical induction: $\sum_{k=1}^n\frac{1}{k^2} \le 2-\frac{1}{n}, n \in \mathbb{N}.$
The inequality is true for $n=1$ and $n=2$:
$$\sum_{k=1}^1\frac{1}{k^2}=\frac{1}{1^2}\le2-\frac{1}{1}=1,$$
$$\sum_{k=1}^2\frac{1}{k^2}=\frac{1}{2^2}\le2-\frac{1}{2}=\frac{3}{2}.$$
The hypothesis part:
$$\sum_{k=1}^n\frac{1}{k^2}\le2-\frac{1}{n}\implies \sum_{k=1}^{n+1}\frac{1}{k^2}\le2-\frac{1}{n+1}$$
This is the part where I'm stuck:
I know that
$$ \sum_{k=1}^{n+1}\frac{1}{k^2}=\sum_{k=1}^n\frac{1}{k^2}+\frac{1}{(n+1)^2},$$
so I can write
$$\sum_{k=1}^{n+1}\frac{1}{k^2}=1+\frac{1}{4}+ \cdots+\frac{1}{n^2}+\frac{1}{(n+1)^2}\le2-\frac{1}{n}+\frac{1}{(n+1)^2}$$
hired
anyway
so whats wrong with just doing sum of n+1 is sum of n + 1/n^2
and going from there
subtract $\sum_{k=1}^n\f1{k^2}$ on both sides, then you can use the assumption which will cause the inequality to hold and then from there you can just simplify to get something which is obviously true
Duh Hello
or wait maybe its not that simple since the negative of the inequality wont quite work like that, hmm
ah but you can still use that [0\leq2-\f1n-\sum_{k=1}^n\f1{k^2}]
Duh Hello
i think, shouldve perhaps done the problem before responding 
Do you mean this? $\sum_{k=1}^{n+1}\frac{1}{k^2}=\sum_{k=1}^n\frac{1}{k^2}+\frac{1}{(n+1)^2}$
Mithridates
yes
Mithridates
wait
we can do something even simpler
so the entire sum never gets greater than pi^2/6
so $\sum_{k=1}^{n}\frac{1}{k^2}<\frac{\pi^2}{6}$
hired
for n < infinity
and so we need to test that this is true for 1, 2, and 3, because after that 2-1/n>pi^2/6
Is this the only way to go?
But I have to solve this using induction
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any idea of how to calculate this
yes