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pastel totem
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but that equals to just x right

feral leaf
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Not yet

pastel totem
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oh okok

feral leaf
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So that means, h(x) can be rewritten as $x^{\frac{1}{3}} +1$

jolly parrotBOT
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CaptainNova22

feral leaf
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Do you agree?

pastel totem
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OH YES

feral leaf
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Then when you plug in g(x)

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You have h(g(x)) = $((x-1)^3)^{\frac{1}{3}} +1$

jolly parrotBOT
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CaptainNova22

feral leaf
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Do you understand that?

pastel totem
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i understand why its written that way but i dont understand what is next

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like yes i understand it but i dont understand what to do with it

feral leaf
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So you now, back to the table, you apply the rule $(a^x)^y = a^{xy}$

jolly parrotBOT
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CaptainNova22

feral leaf
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Meaning that h(g(x)) = $(x-1)^{3 \cdot {\frac{1}{3}}} +1$

pastel totem
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okok i see

jolly parrotBOT
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CaptainNova22

feral leaf
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Then you can simplify

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What's 3 * 1/3?

pastel totem
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wait wait

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its 1

feral leaf
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Yes

pastel totem
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so then you just have x -1 + 1

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which cancels to x

feral leaf
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Yes

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So h(g(x)) = x

pastel totem
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so every time theres a sqrt like that ill do fractional exponent

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instead of just needing to distribute

feral leaf
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You didn't need to distribute in the first place, you just needed to apply what you know with roots and exponents and simplify

pastel totem
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right right

lilac ocean
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is the winter math homework hitting rn 😂

seems like you've been here all day without break

pastel totem
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who me..😅

lilac ocean
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yeah hahaha

pastel totem
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im preparing for college i haven’t ever been good with math loll

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so im trying to quickly learn everything to college standard at least

feral leaf
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So when it was asking to do h(g(x)), you started it off fine by plugging g(x) into h(x), it was just then applying the mathematical concepts to simplify it

pastel totem
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okok yes i see, thank youu

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this helped alottt ty:)

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royal galleon
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for part by I can find that it is <= (b-a)^2 by saying that int_a^b f(x)dx <= f(b)(b-a) but I cannot figure out how to get the 1/2 there

naive zinc
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<=(x-a)dx x from a to b

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(=|int (f(x)-f(a))dx|<=int |f(x)-f(a)|dx<=int (x-a) dx)

royal galleon
naive zinc
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What?

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You prefer in Tex?

royal galleon
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yes please

naive zinc
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$=| \int_{a}^{b}(f(x)-f(a))dx| \leq \int_{a}^{b} |f(x)-f(a)|dx \leq \int_{a}^{b}(x-a)dx=\frac{(b-a)^{2}}{2}$

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Cogwheels of the mind

royal galleon
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two question. First how did we even go from $|\int_a^b f(x)dx - (b-a)f(a)|$ to what you have. And second how can $\int_a^b (x-a)dx = \frac{(b-a)^2}{2}$ would it not be $\frac{(b-a)^2}{2} - ba -a^2$

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BigBen

naive zinc
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|integral of g|<=integral of |g|

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plug in g(x)=f(x)-f(a)

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Second

royal galleon
naive zinc
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$\int_{a}^{b} (x-a)dx= \int_{a}^{b}(x-a)d(x-a)= \int_{0}^{b-a}ydy=\frac{(b-a)^{2}}{2}$

jolly parrotBOT
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Cogwheels of the mind

naive zinc
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I forgot nothing

royal galleon
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I don't see where our b-a goes in the sub of g(x) = f(x)-f(a)

naive zinc
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I don’t see how bound becomes an issue

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I am out

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Oh I left out your first question

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$|\int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx-(b-a)f(a)|= |\int_{a}^{b}f(x)dx-\int_{a}^{b}f(a)dx|=|\int_{a}^{b}(f(x)-f(a))dx| \leq \int_{a}^{b} |f(x)-f(a)|dx \leq \int_{a}^{b}(x-a)dx=\frac{(b-a)^{2}}{2}$

jolly parrotBOT
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Cogwheels of the mind

naive zinc
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I thought it’s obvious to you

royal galleon
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I missed that

royal galleon
naive zinc
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y=x-a

royal galleon
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why?

naive zinc
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You never use substitute?

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okay

royal galleon
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ok then we have dy/dx = x and then we wouldl need xdx

naive zinc
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$\int_{a}^{b}(x-a)dx=\frac{x^{2}}{2}-ax |_{a}^{b}=(\frac{b^{2}}{2}-ab)-(\frac{a^{2}}{2}-a^{2})= \frac{(b-a)^{2}}{2}$

royal galleon
jolly parrotBOT
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Cogwheels of the mind

naive zinc
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I really don’t understand how it becomes an issue. Maybe get used to substitute

royal galleon
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for your sub part how did you get dx = d(x-a)

naive zinc
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df(x)=f’(x)dx

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f(x)=x-a

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f’(x)=1

royal galleon
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ok I see thx

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.solved

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fading ledge
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fading ledge
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@stable dune

brave sluice
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it's a corollary of lagrange's theorem

fading ledge
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I see yes

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How do I prove it?

brave sluice
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what's your definition of the order of an element?

stable dune
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Oh I lowkey thought they wouldn't even be able to use lagrange

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The proof would essentially be proving Lagrange anyways I suppose

brave sluice
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oh, you can't use it?

waxen agate
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yeah

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consider proof by cosets perhaps

fading ledge
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The least power

cursive wraith
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So

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What can you say about the subgroup generated by that element

fading ledge
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<x>

cursive wraith
fading ledge
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we will get some elements?

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number of disjoint elements?

carmine schooner
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how many elements are in <x> ?

cursive wraith
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When we asked how many elements are in a set

fading ledge
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The order of this element

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We will get that number of elements?

cursive wraith
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Yes

carmine schooner
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yes, the order of <x> is the order of x

cursive wraith
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|<x>| = o(x)

fading ledge
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I see

cursive wraith
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So

fading ledge
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but we increase power one side

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And we are making subgroup?

cursive wraith
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What does Lagrange say

brave sluice
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<x> is a subgroup

cursive wraith
fading ledge
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i meant subgroup is like we need identity and a element?

carmine schooner
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(can you use lagrange for this question?)

cursive wraith
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It makes a subgroup

fading ledge
cursive wraith
fading ledge
fading ledge
carmine schooner
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well by definition <x> contains the identity 1

fading ledge
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any simple examples which clarify more

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Yes it has

carmine schooner
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since the elements are powers of x then <x> is closed under multiplication

stable dune
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<x> is just all integer powers of x

cursive wraith
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Still a power of x

round heart
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@fading ledge given a group G and an element x of G, <x>:= {e,x,x^2,...,x^{n-1}} where e is the identity element and n is the order of x

brave sluice
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probably your book already proved that <x> is a subgroup

cursive wraith
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And the product of two powers of x is still a power of x

fading ledge
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Yeah that's true

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I got it

round heart
carmine schooner
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so we know <x> is a subgroup from all this above

fading ledge
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Yeah

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It is

carmine schooner
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what can we say about the cosets of <x>

round heart
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anyways, since you cant use lagrange then you can prove it if you want

fading ledge
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Left cosets?

carmine schooner
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yeah

round heart
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and then the result you are looking for will follow

fading ledge
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okay so left cosets we will have like all the elements which multiply by x left side

brave sluice
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i would say you can use lagrange if it's stated in the book prior to this question

carmine schooner
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likely a question like this comes after proving lagrange anyway

fading ledge
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I see

round heart
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can you write what that means using some symbols?

carmine schooner
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but what you are looking to prove is that ||the cosets partition the group and are of the same cardinality, so the order of the subgroup divides the order of the group exactly by the number of cosets it has in the group||

fading ledge
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aH: where a is element of group G

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And H is subgroup?

round heart
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right so what are the cosets of <x> in this case?

fading ledge
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Number of elements in group G?

round heart
cursive wraith
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I think at this point we're into the proof of lagrange theorem

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Are you sure Lagrange theorem isn't before this in your book

brave sluice
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you should check

fading ledge
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Ohh wait

brave sluice
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assuming you're using a textbook

stable dune
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Lagrange is immediate from properties of cosets anyways

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Cosets have same order + partition G

fading ledge
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That's true

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So what does it prove?

carmine schooner
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for a subgroup H < G, there are [G : H] cosets. the cosets partition G and have order |H|. so |G| = [G : H] * |H|.

stable dune
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And the order of x is the order of <x>

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Then what can we say

round heart
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side note: you could generalize more and say that given a group G and 2 subgroups H and K such that K\subset H, its true that (G:K)=(G:H)(H:K)

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@fading ledge Has your question been resolved?

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Hi

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Let f be a twice continuously differentiable real-valued function on an open interval containing 0 such that f(0) = 0 and f′(0) = 1. Suppose f satisfies the equation
f(x) = integral from 0 to x of e^(x − t) · (f(t))^2 dt for all x in its domain.
Prove that f is uniquely determined, find an explicit expression for f(x), and determine the maximal interval on which this solution exists.

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Can anyone solve it with proper solution

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<@&286206848099549185>

surreal siren
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I’ll try

atomic ermine
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me too

gloomy berry
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Yes

left steppe
gloomy berry
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Got maximum interval

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(-infinite,0)

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f(x)=?

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No

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@surreal siren

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Are you Bhartiya?

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left steppe
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!status

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surreal siren
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How to find f(x)

gloomy berry
surreal siren
gloomy berry
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Operate our language

left steppe
gloomy berry
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Hindi

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Ok

surreal siren
gloomy berry
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Bhai yeh f(x) kaise ayega

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Interval to agaya

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!noanswer

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gloomy berry
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Acha ruk karta hu

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Ho gayyaa

surreal siren
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Kya aya expression

gloomy berry
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f(x) = e^x/1-e^x

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Solveddd

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Sahi hai kya

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Bata na brother

surreal siren
gloomy berry
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Differentiate the equation using Leibniz rule to get f′(x) = f(x) + (f(x))²
2. Solve the ODE to get f(x) = e^x / (1 − e^x), valid for x < 0

surreal siren
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Undefined hoga

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Lim lagaoge toh infi ayega

gloomy berry
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Oh sry

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I used C also

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f(x) = 0?

surreal siren
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F’(0)=1 Diya hai

gloomy berry
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Ha

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Answer hai 0

surreal siren
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F(x)=0

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?

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Uska slope zero hoga

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Phir f’(0)=0 ayega

gloomy berry
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Differentiate karle equation using Leibniz rule to get f′(x) = f(x) + (f(x))²
Use the initial condition f(0) = 0; the only solution to f′ = f + f² with f(0) = 0 is f(x) ≡ 0.

gloomy berry
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Writing op

gloomy berry
surreal siren
gloomy berry
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It is the only sol

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Unique like you

surreal siren
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Toh f’(0)=1 satisfy nahi ho raha hai

gloomy berry
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Hai possible

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At x = 0, the integral is zero, so f(0) = 0
Differentiate the equation using Leibniz rule to get f′(x) = f(x) + (f(x))²
At x = 0, f′(0) = 0 because f(0) = 0
The only solution to f′ = f + f² with f(0) = 0 is f(x) = 0 for all x

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Yeh dekh bro

surreal siren
surreal siren
gloomy berry
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Then there is no sol

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Because f'(0)= 1 and f'(0) = 0 simultaneously

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No solution

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Not defined

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Also

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Maximum interval

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@surreal siren

surreal siren
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Ha no solution hi hoga I think

gloomy berry
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Bhai add karlo bhai jaisa

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Batao

surreal siren
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Karliya

gloomy berry
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Padhenge aur topp

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Topppperrr?

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College me ho kya

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Ya MIT

surreal siren
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10th mein hu

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Odisa state board

gloomy berry
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Bruh yeh college ka question hai

surreal siren
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Isiliye ek aur bar kisi se puch lo

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I think aur help mil jayegi

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Scam

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Gtfo

gloomy berry
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Apko kese pata

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Me also

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9th

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👽

surreal siren
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Nice

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Enjoy karo life

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Sone chala

gloomy berry
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Kyu

surreal siren
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Par pls

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Question

gloomy berry
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Odisha

surreal siren
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Ek aur bar

gloomy berry
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Jai Jagannath

surreal siren
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Kisi aur se puch lo

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gloomy berry
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Jai Jagannath Ji

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Me Rajasthan

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North

surreal siren
gloomy berry
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CBSE board

surreal siren
gloomy berry
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Goodnight brother

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Kyu

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Neend aarahi

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1 question karlo

surreal siren
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Baadme baat karta hu aapse

gloomy berry
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sin²x + tan²x=?

surreal siren
gloomy berry
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Kya hota hai

surreal siren
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I think already kaafi simplified hai

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Limit lagi hai kya?

gloomy berry
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Nahi

surreal siren
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X->0?

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Phir?

gloomy berry
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trigonometry hai

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No lim

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Just triangle

surreal siren
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Ha par koi options?

gloomy berry
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No waves

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Yes

surreal siren
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(Sin^2(2x)+sin^2x)/(1-sin^2x)

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Ye hi hoga

gloomy berry
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sin²x + tan²x = sin²x+sec²x-1=sin²x-sin²x-cos²x+sec²x

surreal siren
gloomy berry
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sec²x-cos²x

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Answer

surreal siren
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Ha wo bhi hai

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Wo bhi keh sakte hai

gloomy berry
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= (secx+cosx)(secx -Cosx)

balmy olive
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.

surreal siren
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Options par depend karta hai

gloomy berry
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Yes

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True

surreal siren
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.!closed

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.closed

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surreal siren
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Yes

gloomy berry
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Gnnn

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Bhai

surreal siren
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Gn

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.Gn.

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!closed

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Good Night Brother

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. close

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Good night brother

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Yes

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ive never seen a problem like it

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real arrow
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im just wondering why this only works for non integer values of p?

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and what would we do for integer values?? would there be a new defined function and what would the GS look like

lean star
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holy periodhater he/him

real arrow
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i also read feminist literature and drink matcha instead of water

lean star
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are u also 6ft2

real arrow
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6'3*

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(im 5'10)

lean star
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i hope some kind lady helps this saint

real arrow
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no no ladies have too much on their plate already

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i wouldnt dare bother them

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jokes aside tho any help would be appreciated

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lean star
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i might be trolling

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but

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do jp and j-p have to be linearly independent

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i plugged in 2 and -2 for p in 4.37 and got the same thing

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so maybe thats why

real arrow
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im not sure about the GS

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for integers

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im pretty sure jp would be in it still because the recurrence relation is still fine

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j-p would break the recurrence

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i dont know what the other part of the GS would be

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would i just use this to find the other one

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i think it will give it to me

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if i use jp

lean star
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i checked p=1 and got Jp = - J-p
so it might be that J-p = (-1)^p Jp for p non negative integers so theyre not linearly independent

real arrow
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yea

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i found out that its not linearly independent for integers

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so i was wondering what the actual GS would be

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im pretty sure it would be jp(x) + some other function (x)

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jp(x) would still be present but obviously j-p(x) would be something else for integers

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so im thinking that we use this to find the other part of the GS

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yayyy

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lean star
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maybe u can also do reduction of order stuff like y_2 = u(x)y_1(x)

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maybe thats how theyre getting that fmla

real arrow
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yea i probably could as well

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oh wait the picture i sent is from reduction of order xd

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omg fire

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@crystal dew

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Can you help me

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in that case, see you around

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I didn't open it

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because you typed something in an open channel

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Observe how the numbers change in this sequence. 
Using the convention of starting with $a_0 = 1$, we have $a_n = a_{n-1} + 1$ for $n \in \{1, 3, 6, 10, \dots\}$ (and $a_n = a_{n-1}$ otherwise), the well-known series $S(i) = \sum_{i=1}^ki$. 
In other words, the given sequence is constructed by writing $k+1$ until $n = S(k)$.

So we write $a_{\ceil{S(k)}} = k + 1$.
We need to solve $n = S(k)$ for $k$ to determine a formula for $a_n$.
\begin{align*}
n &= \sum_{i=1}^ki \\ 
n &= \frac{k(k-1)}{2} \\
2n &= k(k-1) \\
k^2 - k - 2n &= 0 \\
k &= \frac{1 \pm \sqrt{1 + 16n}}{2} \\
k &\approx \frac{1}{2} + 2\sqrt{n}
\end{align*}
using only the positive root.
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Coolempire2026

shut elm
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Was working to construct a proof for this by solving backwards but

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My formula is slightly off

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Oh

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I see what happened

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Observe how the numbers change in this sequence. 
Using the convention of starting with $a_0 = 1$, we have $a_n = a_{n-1} + 1$ for $n \in \{1, 3, 6, 10, \dots\}$ (and $a_n = a_{n-1}$ otherwise), the well-known series $S(i) = \sum_{i=1}^ki$. 
In other words, the given sequence is constructed by writing $k+1$ until $n = S(k)$.

So we write $a_{\ceil{S(k)}} = k + 1$.
We need to solve $n = S(k)$ for $k$ to determine a formula for $a_n$.
\begin{align*}
n &= \sum_{i=1}^ki \\ 
n &= \frac{k(k-1)}{2} \\
2n &= k(k-1) \\
k^2 - k - 2n &= 0 \\
k &= \frac{1 \pm \sqrt{1 + 8n}}{2} \\
k &\approx \frac{1}{2} + \sqrt{2n}
\end{align*}
using only the positive root.
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Coolempire2026

shut elm
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Applied the quadratic formula wrong

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Okay now my question is how to turn this from observations into a proof

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In reality n = ceil(S(k)) so we actually have

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$0 \leq k^2 - k - 2n \leq 2$

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Coolempire2026

shut elm
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Any help would be appreciated!

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With this in mind, the observations become

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Ah I just realized that ceil(S(k)) doesn't even make sense since it's an integer always 😂

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It should be

round heart
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yea i was going to tell you that

shut elm
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S(k-1) <= n < S(k)

round heart
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it might be me being stupid rn

shut elm
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Did you read the image with the sequence

round heart
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yea

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for some reason i cant comprehend what is being said before the n=\sum...

shut elm
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You mean the sentence that has the incorrect notation? or the whole paragraph

round heart
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starting from "the well known series" up to and excluding the beginning of the calculations

shut elm
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I just followed the textbook's way of writing

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'constructed by' and then the procedure

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Observe how the numbers change in this sequence. 
Using the convention of starting with $a_0 = 1$, we have $a_n = a_{n-1} + 1$ for $n \in \{1, 3, 6, 10, \dots\}$ (and $a_n = a_{n-1}$ otherwise), the well-known series $S(i) = \sum_{i=1}^ki$. 
In other words, the given sequence is constructed by writing $k$ until $n = S(k)$.

So we write $a_{S(k-1) \leq n < S(k)} = k$.
We need to solve $n = S(k-1)$ and $n < S(k)$ for $k$ to determine a formula for $a_n$.
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So it would be interpreted as

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a0 = 1

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S(1) = 1
S(2) = 3

So for n in [1,3) we write a_n = 2

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S(2) = 3
S(3) = 6
So for n in [3,6) we write a_n = 3

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S(3) = 6
S(4) = 10
So for n in [6,10) we write a_n = 4

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We can see how this gives us the original sequence

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1 entry (0) includes 1, 2 entries (1 and 2) include 2, 3 entries (3, 4, 5) include 3, 4 entries (6, 7, 8 and 9) include 4

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And so on

round heart
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,w solve (x-1)(x-2)=2n

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shut elm
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Hmm what did they do with the b^2 term that turned into a 9

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Ah

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8(n-1)

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ofc

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Observe how the numbers change in this sequence. 
Using the convention of starting with $a_0 = 1$, we have $a_n = a_{n-1} + 1$ for $n \in \{1, 3, 6, 10, \dots\}$ (and $a_n = a_{n-1}$ otherwise), the well-known series $S(i) = \sum_{i=1}^ki$. 
In other words, the given sequence is constructed by writing $k$ until $n = S(k)$.

So we write $a_{S(k-1) \leq n < S(k)} = k$.
We need to solve $n = S(k-1)$ and $n < S(k)$ for $k$ to determine a formula for $a_n$.
\begin{align*}
n &\geq \sum_{i=1}^(k-1)i \\ 
n &\geq \frac{(k-1)(k-2)}{2} \\
2n &\geq k^2 - 3k + 2 \\
k^2 - 3k - 2n + 2 &\leq 0 \\
0 \leq k &\leq \frac{3 \pm \sqrt{9 + 8(n-1)}}{2} \\
0 \leq k &\leq \frac{3 \pm \sqrt{1 + 8n}}{2} \\
0 \leq k &\approx \frac{3}{2} + \sqrt{2n}
\end{align*}
using only the positive root.
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Coolempire2026

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coolemplud

round heart
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no

shut elm
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And then comes the S(k) root

shut elm
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I guess I'll leave it in the unsimplified form because the S(k) gives

cinder flower
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i feel like i did this problem a long time ago

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Observe how the numbers change in this sequence. 
Using the convention of starting with $a_0 = 1$, we have $a_n = a_{n-1} + 1$ for $n \in \{1, 3, 6, 10, \dots\}$ (and $a_n = a_{n-1}$ otherwise), the well-known series $S(i) = \sum_{i=1}^ki$. 
In other words, the given sequence is constructed by writing $k$ until $n = S(k)$.

So we write $a_{S(k-1) \leq n < S(k)} = k$.
We need to solve $n = S(k-1)$ and $n < S(k)$ for $k$ to determine a formula for $a_n$.
\begin{align*}
n &\geq \sum_{i=1}^(k-1)i \\ 
n &\geq \frac{(k-1)(k-2)}{2} \\
2n &\geq k^2 - 3k + 2 \\
k^2 - 3k - 2n + 2 &\leq 0 \\
0 \leq k &\leq \frac{3 \pm \sqrt{9 + 8(n-1)}}{2} \\
0 \leq k &\leq \frac{3 + \sqrt{1 + 8n}}{2}
\end{align*}
and
\begin{align*}
n &< \sum_{i=1}^ki \\ 
n &< \frac{k(k-1)}{2} \\
2n &< k(k-1) \\
k^2 - k - 2n &> 0 \\
k &> \frac{1 \pm \sqrt{1 + 8n}}{2} \\
k &> \frac{1 + \sqrt{1 + 8n}}{2}
\end{align*}
using only the positive roots.
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shut elm
round heart
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Ah wait I've solved it!

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That was it

round heart
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yea

shut elm
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Wait no I made a contraduction

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!

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No I didn't

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!

round heart
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yea its fine

shut elm
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Observe how the numbers change in this sequence. 
Using the convention of starting with $a_0 = 1$, we have $a_n = a_{n-1} + 1$ for $n \in \{1, 3, 6, 10, \dots\}$ (and $a_n = a_{n-1}$ otherwise), the well-known series $S(i) = \sum_{i=1}^ki$. 
In other words, the given sequence is constructed by writing $k$ until $n = S(k)$.

So we write $a_{S(k-1) \leq n < S(k)} = k$.
We need to solve $n = S(k-1)$ and $n < S(k)$ for $k$ to determine a formula for $a_n$.
\begin{align*}
n &\geq \sum_{i=1}^(k-1)i \\ 
n &\geq \frac{(k-1)(k-2)}{2} \\
2n &\geq k^2 - 3k + 2 \\
k^2 - 3k - 2n + 2 &\leq 0 \\
0 \leq k &\leq \frac{3 \pm \sqrt{9 + 8(n-1)}}{2} \\
0 \leq k &\leq \frac{3 + \sqrt{1 + 8n}}{2}
\end{align*}
and
\begin{align*}
n &< \sum_{i=1}^ki \\ 
n &< \frac{k(k-1)}{2} \\
2n &< k(k-1) \\
k^2 - k - 2n &> 0 \\
k &> \frac{1 \pm \sqrt{1 + 8n}}{2} \\
k &> \frac{1 + \sqrt{1 + 8n}}{2}
\end{align*}
using only the positive roots.

Thus we have 
\begin{equation*}
\frac{1 + \sqrt{1 + 8n}}{2} < k \leq \frac{3 + \sqrt{1 + 8n}}{2} = \frac{1 + \sqrt{1 + 8n}}{2}
\end{equation*}
That is, that $k = \floor{\frac{1 + \sqrt{1 + 8n}}{2}} \approx \floor{\frac{1}{2} + \sqrt{2n}}$.
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I don't have an equation environment?

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wtf

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No I put begin at the end

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Coolempire2026

shut elm
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So now I have that $a_n \approx \floor{\frac{1}{2} + \sqrt{2n}}$

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Coolempire2026

shut elm
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Showing that they are equal is beyond me thoug

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So now that's my new question 🙂

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And then how to formalize this compendium of observations

shut elm
feral sedge
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this is so cursed

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you've observed that it's sufficient to find where each sequence increases by 1, right

shut elm
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Where each sequence?

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Like the entries yeah

feral sedge
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a_n and floor(1/2 + sqrt(2n))

round heart
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probably not the calculation itself but what you were calculating to begin with

feral sedge
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like you know a_n last has a value of k when n=k(k+1)/2

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then it switches to k+1

shut elm
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Oh right it's k(k+1) not k(k-1)

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But yes sure

round heart
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because $\frac{1+\sqrt{1+8n}}2>\frac 12+\sqrt{2n}\geq\floor{\frac 12+\sqrt{2n}}$ so reaching $k>\frac{1+\sqrt{1+8n}}2$ is definitely wrong

feral sedge
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for the kth triangular number yeah

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ali yassine

feral sedge
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so you just need to show that plugging k(k+1)/2 into the sqrt thing gets you k, but plugging in k(k+1)/2 + 1 gets you k+1

shut elm
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Since it's k+1 not k-1

round heart
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ohhh i see, in that case it might work

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tbh i am not really able to focus rn so i cant really be very helpful 🥀

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sorry vro

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This is a lot of work for me to do now

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I will have to do it later/tommorow

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So I want to show that $\sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{i}$ diverges using cauchy

Proof: Let the series converge. Then for $\varepsilon= \frac{1}{2}, \exists N \in \N : n,m≥ N \implies \abs{\sum_{i=1}^{m} \frac{1}{i} - \sum_{i=1}^{n} \frac{1}{i}}< \frac{1}{2}$.

Chose $m=2N;n=N$. We then have $\sum_{i=N}^{2N} \frac{1}{i} ≥ N \cdot \frac{1}{2N} = \frac{1}{2}$. This is a contradiction to our assumption that $\sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{i}$ converges.

Thus $\sum_{i=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{i}$ diverges

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oops

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plush bramble
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You kinda avoid using cauchy anywhere

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sum u=N to 2N of 1/i > 1/2 is independent of Cauchy

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plush bramble
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Cauchy is more than just about the specific choice of m=2N and n=N

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Once you fix m=2N, it's not really using Cauchy anymore

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Using Cauchy would be more like any arbitrary m and n greater than some N

sharp smelt
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I'm confused

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isn't this correct for a proof by contradiction using cuahcy

plush bramble
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Your proof is like 90% contradiction and 10% Cauchy

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The question is phrased that you shouldn't be contradicting convergence, but contradicting the sequence is Cauchy

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cool

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thanks!

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Hi

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timber schooner
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This is for f(x) = x^2 -2x +2

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I completed the square

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(x-1)^2 + 1 greater than or equal to 1

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but should the final answer be f(x) is greater than or equal to 1

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rather than 0

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because the minimum value is 1

heavy onyx
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the minimum x value is 1

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the minimum occurs at (1,0)

graceful leaf
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what is the question

heavy onyx
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at x=1 for example, f(x) = 0

timber schooner
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Why is it f(x) is greater than 0

heavy onyx
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if anything, the answer should be f(x)≥0

timber schooner
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should it be f(x) is greater than equal to 1

heavy onyx
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yes

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no

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0

timber schooner
heavy onyx
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plug in x=1

timber schooner
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so why is the minimum value 1

heavy onyx
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it isnt

timber schooner
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look

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this is in the answer sheet

heavy onyx
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they should say the minimum value f can attain is at 0 and it happens when x=1

timber schooner
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no but how

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when x = 1

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it’s 0^2 +1 which is 1

heavy onyx
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okay i realize now

heavy onyx
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yes?

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i thought (incorrectly so) the quadratic in question is (x-1)^2

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u r correct, f(x)≥1 is the answer

timber schooner
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yeah

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so why does the answer sheet say

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it’s greater than 0

graceful leaf
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because its also true

heavy onyx
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answer sheet is wrong

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i mean it is true

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but like

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im sure the teacher desired u to do f(x)≥1

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When milk freezes, its volume increases by one-fifth.
When the milk melts, by what fraction does its volume decrease?

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Ok @pearl pond

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close this channel and stick to #help-27 please plantmoji

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.close duplicate channel -- go to #help-27

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On solving inequations i get x = 2 and -4

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After that what to do

quasi estuary
inland laurel
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Like this we have 6 distinct points

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inland laurel
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Then that value of y is rejected

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±√10

quasi estuary
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so we just have 2 points ??

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inland laurel
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What to do next now?

quasi estuary
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2 points cant form a triangle

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u solved it wrong I think

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Make an ellipse

tardy reef
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there are a ton of points

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the inequality has an overlap of regions

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idk where you got x=-4 coz thats not even in that parabola

inland laurel
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I can reject -4

quasi estuary
tardy reef
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make a graph or a rough sketch and see what are the actual regions of intersection

quasi estuary
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*tho

tardy reef
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and X is set of the intersection of the two regions

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I'll do it later i should go now

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So if we want to group the vowels, we treat it as 1 unit

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I GOT IT

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i got it

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lmao thanks

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. That was a quickie

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. yeah thanks adhi

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you dont need to use a . whena channel is closed

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rxa-(b+c)xa=0
(r-(b+c))xa = 0

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r-(b+c) = lambda(a)

toxic lichen
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brackets

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(r-(b+c)) × a = 0

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yes there we go

eager jewel
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this is all ive done till now

toxic lichen
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well, λa has to be orthogonal to b-c.

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so maybe it's time to calculate $\vec{a} \cdot (\vec{b} - \vec{c})$, for a start.

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toxic lichen
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oh hold on my bad

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misread the question

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r itself is orthogonal to b-c sorry

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not λa

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$$(\vec{r} - (\vec{b} + \vec{c})) \times \vec{a} = \vec{0}$$

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oh the cross

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Robo_17

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oh no not yet

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1 min

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its -593

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but what to do w this

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$r \cdot (b-c) = \lambda a \cdot (b-c) + (b+c) \cdot (b-c)$

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cbf to put \vec everywhere but you hopefully get my point

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toxic lichen
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yes

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alr alr got it ty

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assume r-(b+c) to be equal to lambda times a

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and r ans

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as

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rx + ry +rz

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too late + too vague + overcomp

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are "L + ratio" jokes still funny

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im lost on what to do next, i - 3 both sides and was left with |2x-5| >1

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|2x - 5| > 1

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leads to 2x - 5 < -1 or 2x - 5 > 1

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yes

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wait

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how

proper nova
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you don't know how why i got the -1?

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$\abs{A} = \begin{cases}
A \text{ if } A \geq 0\
-A \text{ if } A < 0
\end{cases}$

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1 divided by 0 equals Infinity

pastel totem
proper nova
proper nova
pastel totem
proper nova
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no no no no no

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you got |2x - 5| > 1

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so split into 2 cases: 2x - 5 >= 0 and 2x - 5 < 0

pastel totem
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okok so i splitt niow

proper nova
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when 2x - 5 >= 0 then |2x - 5| = 2x - 5

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and |2x - 5| > 1 so 2x - 5 > 1

pastel totem
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okay i didnt realize we split alr okay hold up

pastel totem
proper nova
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you split it like that

pastel totem
proper nova
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the definition of absolute values

pastel totem
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i see the definiton but its not lining up

proper nova
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it will make sense later

pastel totem
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??

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wdym later

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im confused now mane

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i cantr learn if i dont know what im doing now

proper nova
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when you split into cases like what im doing here

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don't really care about what the question says now

pastel totem
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yes but u used 0 not 1 howd you get 0

proper nova
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we split by definition

pastel totem
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im still lost sir, the definiton doesnt line up

proper nova
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not 2x - 5 > 1

pastel totem
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oh wait

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yes

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is it zero bewcause 1 is positiv?e

proper nova
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🙏

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|A| >= 0 for any A

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anyways

pastel totem
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wait wait

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i get it now but i havent needed to do that any other times

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how do ik when?

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if its = to 1?

proper nova
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or 2x - 5 = 1

pastel totem
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okay pre split

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when i got 0

proper nova
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the splitting is just me proving to you

pastel totem
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you knew to get 0 bc by definition, but im lost because i didnt need to do it

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do i go by definition because its 1?

pastel totem
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nono im just trying to understand when to and not to intergrate it

proper nova
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|A| < c => -c < A < c

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these shortcuts can be proved by splitting into cases

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which is what i did

pastel totem
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thats not what im askigg ut telling me ant splitting right?

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okok

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wait

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i am just explainging badly

proper nova
pastel totem
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so when i get to |2x-5| >1 i was lost, you told me to go by definiton, did you go by definion because it was > 1 or because you always go by ddefinition at that part

proper nova
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im sorry for the confusion

pastel totem
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wait i understand that the next part i split, i just was confused if i missed a part inbetween or not

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but when you said next you split

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you had 0’s and you go by definition. did you go by definition because its 1?

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or because you always automatically follow definition before splitting

proper nova
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but if it's multiple choice like this, you can try to use shortcuts like these

pastel totem
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but your supposed to split regardless

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so are using shortcuts?

proper nova
pastel totem
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okok i see why im confused

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can you show me normal way

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i dont wanna learn shortcuts if i dont have a basic understanding of it in general

proper nova
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split into 2 cases: $2x - 5 \geq 0$ and $2x - 5 < 0$

jolly parrotBOT
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1 divided by 0 equals Infinity

pastel totem
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bro😭

proper nova
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that's the normal way

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😭

pastel totem
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im stil confused abt the 0’s

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u never answered

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my question abt ot

proper nova
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you can actually split into anything

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for example: $2x - 5 \geq 1$

jolly parrotBOT
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1 divided by 0 equals Infinity

pastel totem
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do i use 0’s because its 1 or because you automatically change then into 0

proper nova
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and $2x - 5 < 1$

jolly parrotBOT
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1 divided by 0 equals Infinity

proper nova
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but if you use $2x - 5 < 1$, it turns really confusing

jolly parrotBOT
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1 divided by 0 equals Infinity

rough forge
proper nova
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so i use $2x - 5 \geq 0$ and $2x - 5 < 0$, split by definition is an easier approach

jolly parrotBOT
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1 divided by 0 equals Infinity

pastel totem
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so its 0’s because you just wanted to use them???

pastel totem
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that doesn’t answer my question tho😭

proper nova
pastel totem
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how r you able to just get rid of ut

proper nova
proper nova
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if $2x - 5 \geq 0$ then $\abs{2x - 5}$ is just $2x - 5$

jolly parrotBOT
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1 divided by 0 equals Infinity

proper nova
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boom, first inequality $2x - 5 > 1$ which you can solve it yourself

jolly parrotBOT
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1 divided by 0 equals Infinity

pastel totem
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is that basically not what it just was😭

rough forge
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after resolving the absolute values

pastel totem
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how is it easier now when all you did was change < to >

pastel totem
proper nova
jolly parrotBOT
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1 divided by 0 equals Infinity

rough forge
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Skipping parts?

proper nova
pastel totem
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why did i need to do all that 0 stuff when all u did was take away the absolute value

proper nova
proper nova
rough forge
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They aren't really shortcuts,,,

rough forge
pastel totem
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so i have |2x-5| > 1 and i split into 2x-5>1 and 2x-5<-1 right

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then just -5 both sides?

proper nova
rough forge
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you get 2x-5>1 or 2x-5<-1

pastel totem
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yeah

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okay

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but the rest is right?

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also how do ik if its and or or

rough forge
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You'd add 5 on both sides, and ig solve the inequalities

pastel totem
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BRUH

proper nova
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lord

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🙏

pastel totem
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DOBT SAY LORD

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O LIT ASKED U LIKE SO MANY TIEMS

rough forge
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Under the constraint 2x-5 >= 0 which means x >= 5/2 you try to solve 2x-5 > 1, see which solutions satisfy the constraint

pastel totem
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okok wait ik what to do

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how do ik if its and or or

proper nova
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<@&268886789983436800> user id: 423444344037703680

bronze heath
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🤦

proper nova
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because literally no number is > 1 and < -1

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so we use or in this case

rough forge
proper nova
pastel totem
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ohhh okok

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in college do i rlly need to know that tho

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pls say no

rough forge
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in college?

pastel totem
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yes

rough forge
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especially in college

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yes

pastel totem
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do i rlly need to lnow and or pr

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aUghh

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Bro

bronze heath
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Unless u dropout

rough forge
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you probably will encounter many other logical operators as well

pastel totem
proper nova
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basically all of them

rough forge
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nand Gigachad

pastel totem
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well ty thooo

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pearl pondBOT
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rough forge
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ebon skiff
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hey! combinatorics problem here.

pearl pondBOT
ebon skiff
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Let me put it in google translate

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Determine the number of ways to distribute 65 students taking advanced mathematics into three courses, two of which consist of 22 students and one of which consists of 21 students.

rough forge
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@cinder flower

ebon skiff
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Oh no

cinder flower
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hello

ebon skiff
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Hi

frank violet
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<@&268886789983436800>

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-# wtf

ebon skiff
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So im thinking

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That

unborn abyss
ebon skiff
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We have 3 cases.

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21, 22, 22
22, 21, 22
22, 22, 21

cinder flower
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wtf

ebon skiff
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Layla wtf is happening

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Lmao

cinder flower
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did that guy get banned or do i need to ping mods still

ebon skiff
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Hm

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Idk

cinder flower
ebon skiff
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,rccw

jolly parrotBOT
ebon skiff
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So basically i would add those 3 up

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And thats it

cinder flower
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or maybe it got lost in translation. but i would have expected the course student numbers to already be set

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so like, this particular one has 21, this one has 22, this one has 22

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not just any one of them can have 21 and the others need to be 22

ebon skiff
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It just says

cinder flower
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but anyway it only affects the answer by multiplying by 3 so we can do it either way

ebon skiff
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2 of the courses have 22, and one has 2q

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21

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So im guessing the 21 course can be either of the 3

cinder flower
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it’s not totally clear but ok

ebon skiff
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If it said:
The first one has 22, the second one has 22, and the third one has 21

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Then

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I'd have left out the *3

cinder flower
cinder flower
ebon skiff
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Ok

cinder flower
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you probably know better than me, understanding the original text

ebon skiff
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Well maybe im wrong

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I mean

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I trust your intuition

lilac quartz
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viel glück

cinder flower
ebon skiff
cinder flower
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and actually the difference in the two interpretations is different than a factor of 3

ebon skiff
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Right

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Wait

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You mean "different by a factor of 3"

cinder flower
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with your way you are right

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i meant with my proposed interpretation, the answer would not just be 3x more

ebon skiff
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Hm

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What would be your way

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That the courses are fixed

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?

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The order

cinder flower
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yea

ebon skiff
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22,22,21

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Or what

cinder flower
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sure

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i don’t know if that’s the correct interpretation though

ebon skiff
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Kk

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So why did you say my solution was almost correct?

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Oh you said its correct

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I saw now

cinder flower
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if the courses are distinguishable and any two of them can have 22 students, your answer is correct

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i cannot confirm 100% that is the intended interpretation

ebon skiff
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okok

ebon skiff
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so i'll take it

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thank you layla

cinder flower
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i do not feel very helpful but no problemo

ebon skiff
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bro stop stalking the channel KEK

cinder flower
ebon skiff
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well

hollow cosmos
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halo

ebon skiff
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here we go...

cinder flower
ebon skiff
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fr

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and that origami

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magnificent

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Wait why is 43 choose 22 = 43 choose 21

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But 65 choose 22 != 65 choose 21

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huh where'd my messages go 😭

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nah bro this has to be a simulation or sum

dry lagoon
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chose 21 in 65
chose 22 in 44
and its just it

ebon skiff
cinder flower
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say you have 43 blank marbles. you will paint 22 of them black and the rest white. how many ways to do that? you could choose 22 out 43 marbles to be black. that’s the same same as choosing 21 marbles to be white

dry lagoon
hollow cosmos
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any discussion room in this server guys?

ebon skiff
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yes

ebon skiff
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oh

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yeah i see

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cuz 22 + 21 is not 65

cinder flower
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yea

ebon skiff
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nice

cinder flower
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there’s a saying that goes something like