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yeah
So it adds up to 1
yeah
but you do know the heights
1?
you know the sum of all heights is 2
Hmmm yh I understand now but isnt that like supossing
Actually nvm
How do I now solve it?
Cant you just make it into a dquare to make it easier?
Okay nvm its 6
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How do i solve this?
I tried to solve it for like 45 mins, but can't get the proper value
have you actually done the derivatives youve left
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Conuses base radius is 5. The conus when spraed out is the second one and its sector angle is 120 need the conus surface area
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These two lengths are identical
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Let the radius of right sector be r, and solve for r by equating two red kines together
circumference of sector = 2 pi r angle
kelvinchan9786
not rn
You will find that these right red line is derives from the left line
otherwise use imagination lol
$l = 2\pi r \cdot \frac{\theta}{360}$ where l is the arc length, and theta is the angle of the sector
lgkoo
oh so thats equal to l?
the 10 pi that you worked out is the l
since unfolding a cone, the circumference of the base circle = length of the arc of the sector
well what does the area of the sector represent for the cone?
surface area?
yes, but without the base circle
the sector itself is the area of the curvy part of the cone
which is part of what you need to find
so the question is, how to find area of the sector?
how did you get that?
what is your r?
correct, but when we can work out the sector's r
using this formula
we knew the arc length and the angle of the sector, so you can work the radius of the sector then
Umm @winter smelt
I tried to use the same logic here but it was inc9rrcwt
Could u tell me where i went wrong
Plz
I see you tried to use the formula for length of arc $l = \theta r$
lgkoo
Yeah
and equal that to the perimeter of the circle
Yeah thats what i could come up with
but that formula works for theta in radians, not degree
don't think so, as long as you fixed theta, and find the correct r accordingly. Your method is fine. But don't forget that the sector is only the surface area of the curvy part of the cone
yup
wait so finding how do we find l
Thanks!
we know what l is
np
Im gotta sleep rn
Sorry @main mica if i couldnt help u much
Hopefully @winter smelt can clear stuff up
ok no you were a lot of help thanks
Gn and thank u
10pi=2pir * 1/3??
yup
r is 30 pi?
no, don't forget to divide by the 2 pi as well
15
correct
sounds right
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ok sorry
but i have one more problem its not as complicated i just need to make equation
sorry again
could you help it sjouldnt take more then 2 mins
im just stuck
just post the question here
on a circle race track there are 2 cars that are moving. they meet each other every 40 mins when they go the same way and they meet in 10 mins when thy move the oppisete way. what time would it take for each car to go around the whole track
ik i have to make a equation or a system just not sure how to
make a correct one
if you could help with this one too it would help a lot
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for critical points if I solve them and get x = 1 and x=3
suppose
would the critical points be [1,3] or do I sub in those roots somewhere else or would it be 1,0 3,0
Um is this where I ask for help with my algebra
Ik it’s basic but I can’t understand when to multiply the units and stuff like that I feels really random
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help i gotta get the range of f(x) = 1 / (x^2 + 5x + 6) and my teacher said that i gotta solve for Y doing y = 1 / (x^2 + 5x + 6) but im stuck and i cant do it
for domain i got ℝ-{-3,-2}
domain is fine, sure
what do you mean by solve for y?
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Are they asking for Y-Intercept ?
no, its asking for the range
like he told me to replace f(x) with Y and told me to solve it like an equation
It’s a quadratic with two roots, so find the vertex
ight
its -b/2a right
I think
how do i find b if its 1 / (x^2 + 5x + 6) tho
i tried doing y(x^2 + 5x + 6) = 1 but idk what to do next
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suppose 3y⁴ = 9x², is it fair to say derivative of x = derivative of y?
hey
what im asking is
if we have an equation (lhs = rhs) , can we say derivative of lhs = derivative of rhs
Like whenever we differentiate
yeah go on
we differentiate somwthing w.r.t something
Like we can differentiate x w.r.t y or reverse or do partial differentiation
mhm
I think so it would be the same yess. Because the derivative of y=derivate of x...that would be saying the slope of y=slope of x since LHS=RHS the slope would be same
If you differentiate this you get 12y³dy = 18x dx
hmm, well i think itll be the reciprocal no?
since dx / dy = 1 / dy/dx
yeaj nvm i gave a bad example
You mean to say that the slope would be perpendicular??
It would be equivalent I believe
It would not if LHS=RHS
no what
ah wait
nvm
are you speaking of symmetric functions
Wait it's not-1 i misread still wdym
Yes
i have no idea what this is
so
assume
im finding
dx³ / dx
its obviously 3x²
but what's the logic behind it
You can graph it...since LHS=RHS the graph would be the same so the slope would be same
can we assume another variable, p = x³ and do dp/dx or what?
oh
Yeah
it is a valid operation to take the derivative of both sides and this would still make the equation true so they would be equivalent
And derivative is rate of change or slope so that would be same
i think this is what we often do when we're given question where its related to rate of change
um is this valid?
Yeah bro
But for a eqn to stand LHS = RHS and it is given
If you speaking of that always the function will reduce to x = y
Ignoring some domains of def
ight
Yeah bro
Now consider a function f(x,y) = x³ + y³ , this is a symmetric function coz you can replace x with y and eqn remains same
yep
So was your issue solved ?
yes i get it
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he alredy found x = -2 . from there how did he conclude that x >= -2
you have to go back to the original objective which is to find the values of x which satisfy the inequality
yh so x = -2 would satisfy. How would values greater than -2 would satisfy too
2^x is increasing
so we know that the left side of the inequality is increasing as well
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Are given: M(1;-2) and vector vMN = (3, 4). How to find N?
(idea, or hint)
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can someone help me graph
$$-4\sin2\left(x+\frac{\pi}{2}\right)$$
ghiolimer
Is it $-4 \sin[2 \left(x+\frac{\pi}{2}\right)]$
Good
question
find the amplitude, period, and horizontal shift of the function, and graph one complete period
okay so i know how to graph -4sinx
but when the period of 2 and this π/2 gets involved i become confuse
i know what to do
but i cant just graph it
Do you know how to find the phase shift
You suppose?
the thing is i dont exaclty know the names of the terms
thats why im not sure whether i know it or not
By how many units to the left
Ye
as i said i know what to do but idk why i cant do it
like
the adjusting it specifically makes it hard
lemme share my work
Give me a few minutes I need to finish something up and then I can help you
okay during that time ill show u my work
couldnt do anything bth
tbh
im confused
no matter what i do i cant get the 2 period done
or if i do it the π/2 thing
they are not going well together
@lethal bridge
and desmos made me even more confused
check out the blue one its a negative right
-sinx
but the red one is opposite although it is - as well
<@&286206848099549185>
lets just restart
so tell me,
we found the phase shift to be -pi/2 right
amplitude to be 4
yeah
what is the period?
period is 2
correct
now a method i like to use when graphing is finding the "x scale" or however you like to call it
its basically just the points on the graph you will use
the x-scale is given by "P/4" where P is the period and 4 is the intervals you will break it into
so whats the x scale we will use?
idk
π/4?
yes
so we're gonna divide the x scale as π/4
the reason its divided by 4 is because we will see that it helps us graph exactly one period
oh
we dont divide the x scale, pi/4 is the x scale
do you have a pen a paper near you so you can graph?
yeah
yes to either the left or the right
here in our case, imagine a sine graph, but moved pi/2 units to the left
yeah essentially
so
with this information, can you tell me where this graph will start?
not 0 and instead on -π/2
done
cool
we need it in exact form
if it helps you can convert it into degrees but with trig functions and graph you will likely be asked to keep it in radians
since i know how this graph will turn out i recommend spacing it a bit more to the left
so you have enough space
alr
so this is where the x scale comes in; it will tell us the distance in between our next points
if the x scale is pi/4 units, it means our next point will be -pi/2 + pi/4
does that make sense?
yeah sort of so we're gonna do π/2?
so basically π/4 thing means the gap between them ?
yeah
alr
so whats -pi/2 + pi/4
its -π/4
alr
we want to do this 3 more times since the x scale is divided into 4 bits
wdym?
how so?
it doesnt have to be accurate
just plot it wherever but make sure ur numbers are in the right order
i usually dont care abt it as well
does ur teacher say the spacing has to be accurate?
but this time since its complicated
just keep the spacing even
okay so usually idc about that
but this time since we have complicated things
im confused so to prove it i wanted to be same yk
anyways
itll make things more confusing
because yk otherwise the period of 2 thing is not correct
it will be
yeah it does but otherwise when i want to show a period of 2 it doesnt make it correct
when dots are not placed correctly
does the trigonometric function know if the physical distance between ur points are exact?
no
ur dots will be placed correctly
if you follow what i say
dont worry about the exact details
if ur so worried you can put 3 boxes in between
yes...
it doesnt matter the exact spacing like i said, just make the distance even and not ridiculously large lol
$x:\left{-\frac{\pi}{2},-\frac{\pi}{4},0,\frac{\pi}{4},\frac{\pi}{2}\right}$
شعاع الماء
these are your points on the x axis which you should have
done
show me
alr
now for ur amplitude u know its going to reach y=4 and y=-4
so put 4 and -4 near the top and bottom of ur y axis
now we will start connecting the dots
so
can you tell me the behaviour of the sine graph
as in how its curve looks
just the regular y = sinx
it passes 0 from the below and reaches to 1 because that is the amplitude
then goes down until -1 and does the same
yes
so its going to start at the bottom
reach the top
then go back to the bottom
our function is negative sinx so we're gonna start at top?
yep
put an X on -pi/2 thats where itll start
like mark it
done
so regular sine would go up
but we have a minus sign
so its flipped
so its going to go down
alr
where will this point be can you tell me?
-π/4
and the y value?
4
4 or -4?
oh for -π/4 its -4
شعاع الماء
sure
every pi it completes a period
how many rotations does it complete in the graph you showed me
so uhm the second part where its below it should be under π/4 right
yes which is too many
just go back to this part we are almost done
alr
so you marked a point at this right
yes
now we said that the sine graph
starts on the x axis, goes up, goes to the x axis, goes down, then goes back up
but here its flipped
after reaching the very bottom
it will go back and touch the x axis
at 0
makes sense?
yes
so we have a point marked at 0
then where will it go?
in previous examples i have done 4 and it didnt work and according to the move it shpuld be *4?
-4?
we just touched -4
also to get the period of π
we marked 0
we touched 0 ?
oh okay
my previous work was correct
the amplitude is 4
yes the amplitude is 4
anyways now i got it
look
we start at x axis
go down
go back up to x axis
then we will go back up again
alr
y=4 x = π/4
done
show me
yep
so you know how to sketch it now?
yeah the part i actually missed before was the x scale thing i guess
yes the x scale helps a lot
its alwyas period/4 thats how we're gonna do?
yep
always p/4 will get you one period
if you want more you can easily add on points
i also found out that i knew period wrong tbh
isnt period the distance between two peaks
in sin thing
no uhm
it shows like this
which is correct?
the reason why i got it wrong tons of times is because i tried to make the distance in red equal to 2 :/
so i am correct?
yes
ohh
but the internet is also correct
can u pls go to another channel
the image on the left is what one period looks like
uhuh
so whats ur confusion?
so the thing im saying is yk how period is the distance between peaks
but our graph shows the period isnt π
GO FIND ANOTHER CHANNEL
dude are u stupid?
anwyays
ur wasting my time
no ones gonna solve it here
just read the text
damn
READ
THE
DAMN
TEXT
THE ONE SHE OR HE SENT
anwaysy
please ignore them
as i was saying
shouldnt the peak should be on π/4
if the period is π?
look
if period means the distance between peaks
from -pi/2 to 0 it completes half a rotation do you agree
yes
then from 0 to pi/2 it completes another half
yep
if you add both of them together it is one full period
you can break it into to parts
and leave
<@&268886789983436800> troll
i dont need ur help
please leave
@lethal bridge is already helping
go find another channel
leave
how do u know im doing this for an exam so u guarantee that i get low marks?
@still temple take some time to reflect on what happened
thank you hayley
what happened?
they were trolling thats what happened
You're doing this for an exam?
no
i am not
thats why i wrote it lol
i dont have an exam im a 12th grader im in final yearim preparing for uni
ik it isnt allowed
anyways i got what ur trying to do
np
you too
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We use the formula but it's not on the choices 😭
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Ohh shittttt
I don't know if my answers were right
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I still don’t know how this one works
Ik v=d/t
So I drew the triangle
But uhh how do I get his displacement
The answers don’t make sense, and I don’t understand how the hypotenuse of this triangle is the displacement
And then what would I do for the direction? I think the root of my problem is the lack of understanding of where the boat ends up, and therefore how displacement makes any sense
i dont think you got the question?
its asking the resultant velocity
Yeah me neither
which will be the vector sum of the velocities of the current and boat
"determine the resultant velocity of the fishing boat"
So I add the velocities!
you have to add the two velocities together
yup
Hang on
Does my teachers working out make any sense?
Because idk if he added vectors
yes this is how you do it
the vectors are mutually perpendicular
Mhm
so you can use the pythagoras' theorem
the hypotenuse is the answer no?
sqrt(3^2 + 1.5^2) is the resultant velocity no?
adding the vectors gives the resultant direction and velocity'
the length of it is the velocity
so finding the hyp is the resultant velocity
Ok wait
How does displacement work in a scenario like this it’s hard to explain what I mean when I say I don’t get it.
If the angle from which the dude started was not 90 degrees it would make sense
the vectors that you have drawn represent the velocity and direction only, for displacement youd have to bring in time
Ok set the time equal to 1
s=d/t etc
Second
the question doesnt talk about displacement though, so you shouldnt worry about it
if it did it would tell you it travelled for x amount of time
That’s how I calc the velocity? Through displacement
no, you have the velocities
so to find the final velocity you use pythagoras, if they werent at right angles youd use cosine rule
But if two forces are acting on him at the same time time, how do I find where he would end up, I add the vectors right, because if I just found the hypo that doesn’t help me
ok so what im getting is that you dont fully appreciate what a vector is. a vector in general carries a direction and size. for this question you want direction and velocity so when adding them you get the final velocity and direction. if the question was about forces on a body, the vectors when added would show the final force and direction
so in this question adding the vectors gives final velocity and direction of travel, to find the size (and therefore velocity) you use pythagoras
if that doesnt help i hope someone else can word it better
It’s taking a bit to digest this
How
Does
Finding
The
Hypotenuse
Of
The
Triangle
In
The
Question
Give
Me
The
Displacement
Just check my diagram of the question
The hypotenuse is the magnitude of the final vector
Is that a correct diagram of the question
So in that diagram
How would the hypotenus tell me where this fucking boat has travelled
Im so fed up with this question
But I appreciate all the help thank you
Revise that topic again maybe you will comprehend it later
it says find the final velocity
not distance or anything else
you have two velocities acting on the boat as seen in the diagram
Yes
so adding the vectors gives you where the boat is actually travelling
and at what speed
Omg
Or is there something with the hypo
that gives you the direction and final size but is the final size the same as adding the sizes of each vector?
the answer is no
the hypo is the adding of the vectors
Read what bro has said above he's told you exactly what you need to do, try just doing it then once you get your answer think about it
Yes ok
This might be a dumb question but,
We find the size through pythag
But
The hypo isn’t actually telling you where guy end up, you have to take the length of the hypo and now position from the origin and then you’ll find where he is
I could just b me stupid
position isnt a part of this problem, its just the velocities, let me try with a drawing
Your a legend thanks so much for helping me
the boat is travelling at a certain speed and direction, after some time it will still be travelling in the same speed and direction, just in a different place, the hypo still tells us the speed
I think I get it now
if thats all please close the chat and have a good day
It 10 at night for me lol but tysm
Also queens gambit is the best chess opening and that objective
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im not sure how to do part a
tbh im not sure how to approach most questions like this
a general approach would be nice
P(X|Y’) = P(Y’|X)P(X)/P(Y’)
P(X|Y) = P(Y|X)P(X)/P(Y)
You know that P(Y’) = 1 - P(Y) and P(Y’|X) + P(Y|X) = 1
I think you just need to fiddle around to solve for P(Y)
Clearly this P(X|Y) and P(X|Y’) are related you need to change them to a form you can deal with
brooo u just turned into an algebra problem
is there an easier way?
Not sure, this is how I would do it
That’s just bayes theorem
Is there a better way? Do you know?
nah i was saying u made it too easy lol
Have you not seen anything like this before?
Bayes theorem is one of the most fundamental theorems you learn for conditional probability
hold on lemme sit down and take a look at this
wait lol
@leaden monolith
this is just law of total probability
Px = Px|y * Py + Px|y’ * Py’
then Py’ = 1 - Py
and theres ur answer
But you get that identity by rearranging bayes theorem…
Yea i mean u can derive it, but law of total probability is more ‘fundamental’ than bayes so they probably woulda learned it
Ah I see what you mean
@hearty dust are u familiar with law of total probability
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is this right???
yup that's correct
ok thank you
you could've also checked by simply substituting the 3 points you had back into the function you got at the end
is this right???
it said the graph will have holes
but my graph didn’t turn out with holes in it
But you have a hole
In the points 2 and -2
Since you can cancel them out above and under in your function
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wait i don’t understand
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How to find it.. i know a thing that when this type of question asked.. try to eliminate the parameter in this case its theta.. but i don't know how to exactly do that in this question..
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Actually can you elaborate? r and θ are independent unless otherwise stated and as such you can't get rid of either without losing information
Hm.. i need to find the conic section to which this equation represents
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Wait..
I can't understand this answer..
@wicked fox sir.. ping me while you reply pls..
You can multiply both sides by r and substitute rcosθ = x, then you get 1 = r/8 + (3/8)x
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And also, if r is the distance from origin, then r = sqrt(x^2 + y^2)
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im doing part b but idk what they did in the red
They multiplied by (x-2) and divided by (x-2) on the -7 and -2 so that they could combine the fractions on top and bottom
$-7 = \frac{-7(x-2)}{x-2}$, $-2 = \frac{-2(x-2)}{x-2}$
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youre allowed to do that?
-7 is the same as -7/1, which is a fraction, and in fractions, you can multiply on top and the bottom with the same number
$\frac{1}{2} = \frac{1 \cdot 2}{2 \cdot 2} = \frac{2}{4}$ for example
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oh ye, i wouldnt think of that without the ms
You can also multiply with the same number on the top and the bottom if that number has a variable
Think of it like multiplication and division are inverse operations. If you multiply with a number, then divide by the same number, you end up where you started
ight ima blow through some questions before my exams
thanks
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can i please get help with this
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A quadrangle ABCD inscribed in a circle has following parameters: |AB| = 3, |AD| = 9 and angle BAD = 120 degrees. Two remaining sides are both $3\sqrt{13}$. Calculate the field of given quadrangle. (Could be done in analytical geometry with integrals (if possible) or in normal geometry)
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got to this point, only managed to figure out the BCD angle
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I also managed to figure out this, the formulas for linear functions. the problem with the 2 latter is that I only have each of their points ($l_{CD}$ goes through [$-4.5, 4.5\sqrt{3}$] and $l_{BC}$ goes through [3, 0]) and that they create together an angle of $\frac{2\pi}{3}$
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they create sth like this
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One thing I noticed
Try write R in terms of 3
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Can someone please help me with question 2b
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sir.. how this helped us to find that the equation is hyperbola?
$r=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}$
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So if you put that for r you only have x and y
oh.. but how we know that $r=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}$?
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Because r is the distance from the origin to the point, but it is also the hypotenuse of a triangle where the two other sides have length x and y
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hm.. ok..
r stands for the radius if that makes sense
yeah.. it making sense.. thank you
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can someone please help me with question 2b
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What in the economics??
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$$\int^5 _{-1} |x-3|$$ i know we have to split the integral , but i forgot how to do that
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check where the function changes its definition
Do you remember piecewise functions?
x = 3?
right
so something like this ?
$$\int ^5 _{3} |x-3| + \int ^3 _{-1} |x-3|$$
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no
well that is an issue then
you'll have to revise how to write |x-3| as a piecewise function
yup
yeah i can write that into that kind of thing
try writing |x-3| for those intervals
correct
now what
i think you can do the same thing in those integrals now
i cant
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here, x lies between 3 and 5
ye
and according to your piecewise function, when x >=3, |x-3| = x-3
yes
now for the second integral?
3 to -1
-1 to 3, yeah
so this?
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try doing the same thing here
right
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$$\int ^5 _{3} (x-3) dx - \int ^3 _{-1} (x-3)dx$$
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btw here x lies between 3 and -1
so if x lies on 3
shouldnt function be positive?
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or can x not lie on 3 ? cuz in the original question x is from -1 to 5
cuz when x is greater or equal to 3 , then function is positive
the endpoints dont really matter in integration
you can think of it as (-1,3) and (3,5)
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i'm confused on how this happens ( a friend sent me this so it might be wrong)
$$ x^2 \cdot dx = \ln x \cdot \frac{1}{t} \cdot dt$$
dividing both by $\ln x$
$$\frac{x^2}{\ln x} dx = \frac{1}{t} dt$$
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then you can just flip it?
and then they took reciprocal on both sides which is wrong
cuz then this is what u will get
$$\frac{\ln x}{x^2 dx} = \frac{t}{dt}$$
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they didnt flip the dx and dt
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