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Because the common factor is everyone here enjoys math
If you enjoyed something enough and wanted to help someone learn, you would teach them for fun
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No bro fuck them they can learn by them selfs I can hardly answer my questions
Bye bro
Thanks a lot bro❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Then you could have learned by yourself
Well.am not them 😂
All of that was just simple Google searches
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can someone explain plz 👀
also am i abusing this server, i feel like im in here 5x a day 😭 i apologize guys i have a test to pass and im stupid
How many things do you have in that test
ok so basically, i havent done some of the math on there in quite some time, so im refreshing a lot and theres few things i havent learned really in depth
math portion is 16 questions
vry short test, but i want to be rly good at that because the other portion is reading, 10 questions, pretty easy, and then theres the physics portion and i havent had a physics class ever in my life lmao
in short, my prep game plan looks like, try to perfect the math, review some reading practice tests, and then learn the physics portions they're askign
Hi again, so what we need to note is that x^4+1 will always be positive, but x^4-1 will be negative for -1<x<1. We are looking for the intervals of x when P(x) is positive in inequality A. Regardless of what these intervals are, they will be the same in inequality B because the denominator does not change the sign of the function at any point. In the case of C, this will definitely reverse the sign of P(x) in the range mentioned as it is negative, so it will certainly add or remove from the solution set, it will not leave it unchanged. So A and B have the same solution sets.
aaah ok i seee
thanks again man, sorry for being in here a bit too frequently 😅
No it's fine, that's what the server is here for!
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can anyone help?
I’ll read it
okok
u get it?
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You roll a 100 sided die, you get to keep the value of your roll. How much would you pay if you can reroll and infinite number of times and pay one dollar per roll?
i got $99 since the face from 2 through 100 gives me profit for each roll
no
if you pay $99 and $1 per roll you literally cannot profit
you keep only value the end value right
if i roll 34 i get $34 but to reroll i need to spend $1
you don’t get $34 plus the new $33
otherwise you would literally have infinite money
if i roll that than sure
oh
and that doesn’t even account for starting pay
okay
profit = last roll - starting amount - number of rolls
we dont start out with any amount
what were solving for
that is not a cost
if we dont roll anything we dont have any value for a die roll
it’s not agreeing it’s you understanding
you pay $x to play
we start at $0
we are finding x
that’s not the cost to play
so what is it than?
what we’re solving for bro
yes
we dont know that
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8 rooks are randomly placed on different squares of a chessboard. A rook is said to attack all of the squares in its row and its column.
Compute the probability that every square is occupied or attacked by at least 1 rook.
here's what i tried:
There are 8^8 ways to put one rook per row and 8^8 ways to put one rook per column. This double counts the ways that have one rook in each row and column, which is the classic definition of covering every square. For that there are 8 ways to choose the column for the first row, 7 ways to choose the column for the second row, and so on making 8! in total. Using inclusion-exclusion the final answer is 2⋅8^8−8!=33514112
but i'm not sure if i am correct
Never mind. i got the right answer.
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Is it possible to calculate the minimum of something given the standard deviation, average and max?
oh right-
im so dumb
wait no cuz what if theres like 20 different scores
cuz if it were only 2 scores, then finding min given max and average is easy but with 20, stuff can vary
thats why standard dev is useful I believe, dont know if its possible to find min tho
as it can give the range sorta?
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probably not. but I can't come up with an example
im able to provide some numbers?
standard dev of 8.11, max of 88.89, average of 75.44
20 like scores
just intuitively there should be a lot more choices for x1,...,x20 than for stdev, min, max, avg. so surely some choices give the same values for stdev, max, avg but not for min
for example it's not possible to calculate stdev from avg, min, max. see 1 2 4 5 and 1 3 3 5. all min=1, avg=3 and max=5. but stdev of first is 1.58 and second 0.70
I see
fixing the stdev is kinda annoying so you can't as easily play around with different values
but there are probably examples
but as you're given the stdev, would it be possible to substitute it?
given any set X, we can modify X so that is has specified mean and stdev by calculating aX+b for some smart values a, b. so there are a lot of datasets which have the same mean and stdev
sure those might not have the same max but with some extra work you can probably also get the max to be the same
but the min of them very very likely won't always be the same.
but finding an explicit example is just annoying
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hi guys for part b
i dont get why is there a x^2 at the last line of the solution
They multiplied the top and bottom by x
That way, you don't have to worry about whether or not x is positive or negative
Well, you do, but it's now built in to the thing
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A quadrilateral with perimeter 52 has an insribed circle with radius 5. What is the area of the quadrilateral?
draw
Has a picture of it afaik
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"If the inscribed circle of a polygon with area A and perimeter c exists, then the radius of the incircle has the value 2A/c"
→A = c*r/2
= 130
ohhh, so is the area 52x5/2?
yep
and that's the area?
yep
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can you do any of the forms?
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kinda skipped parabolas
um, you can write the factorized form by looking where the graph cuts the x axis, which in this case is at -8 and 12, so the factors will be (x-12) and (x+8) so the factorized form will be (x-12)(x+8)
and the vertex form is given by (x-h)^2+k just put in the vertex coordinates to get the eq
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You roll a 100 sided die, you get to keep the value of your roll. How much would you pay if you can reroll and infinite number of times and pay one dollar per roll?
Wrong
You pay $1 if you want to reroll?
You don’t know how to solve this question
Dude you’re asking stupid questions
That was in the question
Lol
As many as you want
That’s irrelevant
We want to know how much we want to play this game
Okay
Ty for your efforts
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I need help for this proof
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well after 15 minutes so <@&286206848099549185>
draw a picture
it's basically a right triangle right?
and like pythagorean theorem
Yes, it is the Pythagorean Theorem.
okay, i understand geometrically, but how would the proof look?
like what to I write
calculate the norms explicitly. bit annoying with all the inner products but doable
just repost your question in a new help channel.
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I can't figure out how to approach this limit, any ideas?
Are you familiar with L'Hopital's?
I am not
Aight so you can multiply by the conjugate
gimmie a sec
this is gonna be a pain to write in latex lol
my apologies for the trouble, our textbook seems to have left a few things out
lmao np
i've dealt with worst things to type out
$$\lim_{t\to 16} \frac{t-16}{\sqrt{t}-4}$$
$$\=\lim_{t\to 16} \left(\frac{t-16}{\sqrt{t}-4}\cdot\frac{\sqrt{t}+4}{\sqrt{t}+4}\right)$$
$$\=\lim_{t\to 16} \frac{\left(t-16\right)\left(\sqrt{t}+4\right)}{t-16}$$
$$\= \lim_{t\to 16} \sqrt{t}+4$$
Umbraleviathan
thank you so much, idk how i didn't think of multiplying by the conjugate
try conjuguates if you get any fractional indeterminate forms
I will definitely keep me in the mind in the future, you may have just saved my whole calc career 😂
our textbook doesn't seem to show anything about it, but its missing a few things that are showing up on our homework anyways
yeah because L'Hopital's utilizes derivatives
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Hi.
I'm trying to help someone with some python code to find how many digits 2 floating points have in common. (so they can discover precision of accuracy in estimating π). Converting them to strings and just comparing them is slow, but accurate. Trying to use logbase10 to count the 0's of their difference is fast, but not entirely accurate. Is their a common math trick for doing this?
do you mean first digits or any digits?
for example:
3.141583 is 0.000009653 off from π, log10 of the difference is -5.01 but there are 4 digits after the decimal in common.
3.14159 is 0.000002653 off from π, log10 of the difference is -5.57 and there are 5 digits after the decimal in common.
What is usually done is log
basically what level of precision is this estimate correct, so just the first.
looking for something like: accuracy(3.141583, π) is 4 digits the same after the decimal.
log base 10 is what we've been trying. but hard to account for carry digits in the difference.
I'm supposed to be installing a doorbell, not helping this guy play with numbers. but it feels like there should be an answer here and I'm just missing it. 🙂
yeah, log10 doesn't help here
imagine comparing 0.999999 and 1.000001
like I trust log 10 to tell me how many 0's there are in the difference, but i don't trust the difference to be correct when what I really want is just a "per digit comparison."
No, that exactitudness not with log
how about a loop where you look at the whole part and then multiply each number by 10 mod 10
i'm not sure about the accuracy though, the digits can change in theory
That's certainly viable, but sadly no faster than just converting to a string and comparing.
I think I'm satisfied that log10 gives me an accurate enough count of the 0s, but it's not going to work for them because the number we're passing to it is not an accurate difference.
I'm going to write a library that does xor on digits in a floating number. I'm not convinced that will be any faster than the string compare either. Maybe I should install the doorbell.
i'm pretty sure you can't do that with loop
it should be cheaper than building a string though
but I'd probably look into how float-to-string conversion is usually implemented for better precision
so that we can do it manually without actually using strings
it's python code, you want to avoid doing stuff
very true.
you can't outpace converting to string, because you need to write code for that
well, yeah, talking about speed in python doesn't make sense
to a certain extant it does. I've cut this guys project down from 20 minute calculations to 1 handful of milliseconds per search, I could make it faster in C, but not that level of faster. Better algorithm > swapping language or hardware.
Anyway, I think I've got the answers I came looking for, so thank you very much for your time and help.
of course i wasn't talking about algorithm complexity, it surely matters
And if you ever need any python help come over to the python discord and ask some questions. 🙂
i'm actually a c++ TA :)
Ah cool. I did c++ for a couple decades before I learned python. I'm happy with both, but python is actually "fun", similar to how perl is fun, but without the maintenance issues.
i'm not happy with either
there're no perfect languages
No. Although rust and nim look interesting.
It's a surprisingly popular language on the python discord. Although I've barely looked at it yet.
ok thanks!
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Bottom is supposed to be (3x+5)^2
h -> 0
You need to carry the limit part down each step 👍
You are doing the formal definition of the derivative
Which is the lim of that as h goes to 0
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Well, I can't get this method to tell me both the inequalities
when
$$x-1>0, x+1>0$$
you get $x>1$
秋水
when
$$x-1<0, x+1<0$$
you get $x<-1$
秋水
so the result is {x: x<-1 or x>1}
I don't understand the how you get parts
$x-1 > 0 = x > 1$ but $x+1 >0 \neq x > 1$
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I have a similar problem with the second part
It's their intersection
What intersection?
It seems like these have different points when they are both >0
(0,1) and (1,0)
x has to satisfy both x>1 and x>-1, so x>1
Oh okay
And for the second one it has to satisfy both $x<-1$ and $x <1 $ so it is just $x<-1$
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i need dhelp
Yep
lol really?
why not
i thought it might have been 13
you can't get a negative number when you square something (unless you deal with complex numbers which you are not)
so subtracting a non-negative number from 4 you can't get something greater than 4
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i need help
$\tan \theta = \frac{120}{235}$
秋水
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hello
I need some help with tally and frequency tables for math
I have to turn this
i have to get all these numbers
And put them into this
Idk where to put any numbers
please help
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just basic z scores
somoene help
lol
i have no idea
why i am getting this wrong
dont ping helpers before 15 minutes
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use a calculator, you have your standard deviation and mean
you also have your lower bound and upper bound
should work out
otherwise you can use the painful formula by hand
it says between
as ive said
your upper bound should be 1088
and your lower bound should be 1003
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Define the value of the parameter "a" so that the function will be continuited, "continuity ". True result is 9. I know the way, but somehow i dont understand lim=lim. How to get that lim. For example i have lim (x goes to 0) 2x+a.
this is example on how i think it should be done
then a = 2
got to that point
I think i can manipulate it
soo i put everthing on one side and it = 0
then i remove x and put back to a = 4+5
your limit from the left should be equal to the limit from the right
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what does this notation represent?
composition usually uses round brackets, i think this has square just for aesthetics
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how would i convert this sequence into a non recursion one or equation?
a₀ = 1;
aₙ = a₍ₙ₋₁₎ + 2* n
for this specific one i would write how it starts, it's probably something obvious
generally idk
Thats wat I was thinking it looked obvious
this is what it looks like on desmos
but i cant seem to pinpoint an equation
ive tried quadratic , logarithmic, exponential
idk
its just a bit off
maybe its impossible?
it's sqaure +1 minus n
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Given a six-sided die, what's the expected value of the difference between two die rolls?
wouldnt this be 0, since the ev of 1 die roll would be 3.5
which would make the difference be 0 since each die roll has a ev of 3.5
no
u would need to sum the p(d=0) * 0 + p(d=1) * 1 .... + p(d=5) * 5
where d is difference between rolls
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what is "p(d=0) * 0 + p(d=1) * 1 .... + p(d=5) * 5"
like probability difference is 0 times 0
plus probabibility difference is 1 times 1
and so on until probability difference is 5
times 5
why?
by definition of expected value
ic
so for this problem since the ev of a fair die is 3.5
the prob difference would be 12.25 right?
wdym
if u roll 2 dice
difference for what?
u cant get the differnece of their values to be equal to anything more than 5
the max difference is if 1 roll is 1
and the other is a 6
difference for what?
how do we calculate the values per roll?
wouldnt that just be ev tho?
what ur doing is subtracting 2 expected values
which wont give u the expected value of this
what would be the solution?
well
the solution is
to find the probability the difference is 1
plus
ur refering to the 1 in this right?
probability the difference is 2 times 2
plus (probability difference is 3) times 3
and so on
until
(probability difference is 5) times 5
so probability difference is 1
is 10/36
those numbers basically symbolizes the die rolls right?
we would only count the situations where we have the same outcomes right?
no?
what is this number than?
the probabibility of getting a difference of 1
cause u can have 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 4-5, 5-6
and reverse
you're both sure it's not absolute difference?
or you're both sure it is?
i can't tell
im not sure
which is what the q is asking when it says whats the ev of the difference between two dice right?
it would be my first assumption
but it makes sense with normal difference too why not
u need to calculate probabilities of getting 2,3,4,or 5
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only the probability of difference of 1 is not what the question was asking
cause that's not the only case
what are the other cases?
up to 5?
2 - 5 right?
yeah
who wouldnt 1 or 6 be a difference?
1 is also a difference
for 6 we cant have a difference of 6 between 2 dice
yeah
so 10/36 would be wrong than
why cant we have a difference of 0?
that wont affect the expected value
ah
cause u end up multiplying the probability by 0
so i made the mistake earlier by taking the difference between the ev of both dice
yeah
but what i shouldve done is count the number of dice that has differences between 1 to 5 right?
and divide it by 36
yeah
wdym
cause expected value is probability times value
the difference
of what?
oh snap
so lets say the differenc eof 1
is 10/36
it would just be 1 * 10/36 right?
yeah
makes sense ty this all makes sense
lets say i wanted to make both dice seven instead of six
it would be the ev of the dice outcomes of 1 - 6 times the outcome?
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I got this but I have no idea what to do after
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question seems wrong
i graphed all the answers and didn't get a graph that matched the ans
the answer is A
but doesn't have an explanation
these are the two graphs
if they were equivalent they should match
but they don't which is why i'm not confident that this question is valid
idk i think the questions just wrong
what if its y^1/8^y^9/8
instead of multiplying its another exponent?
is that possible
i don't think that changes anything
are you sure none of them matches?
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yea go for it ig i'm not a helper tho
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That font makes it poorly formatted. It's $$y^{\frac{1}{8}} \cdot (y^{\frac{3}{4}} )^{\frac{3}{2}}$$
hmm
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can somebody explain this one
the x is positive so it has to be the regular function and the only one i thought it was was b
@sonic knot the ans is A
It can help to try plotting a few points. What's f(0)? f(3)?
@sonic knot the value of function goes on decreasing after a certain time
You understant what I meant to say ??...
ok
the only point i know is f(0)
do f(0) , f(4) , f(10)
Okay, the only point I was trying to get across is that f(3) is smaller than f(0), so the function is decreasing
That happens when the base is less than 1
Cannot be B, which is increasing
why is it not e, f, or d
f(0) = 1, so the function is positive somewhere
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Can someone help me solve this
I kinda get confused when the x's arc gets mixed in one place with the others
So what did you get?
Wdym 96 and 128?
2x - 224
You got the answer?
Wait, the inner angle will be 360 - 2x?
So using the angle sum property we will get 360 - x + 112 = 360?
sURE
then I did what is probably wrong
after this
what should I do
I couldn't decide what I was supposed to equalize 2x - 224 to
0
So, the inner angle would be 360 - 2x
add with the x and the other two angles and equalize them to 360
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In this case, i dont know, how we got Yo as 9. For Xo and x i know, but for 9 i dont.
use that
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can someone pls help me figure out where i am going wrong? im trying to find the area between the curves
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do you recognize this inverted question mark?? I feel like no one knows anything about it , its under conditional statement
Probably an error with the loading of fonts
Oh so basically it doesn't mean anything and just the error of the computer?
Yes
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Hey
hi
Im trying to solve this limit
And I've tried multiplying by (sqrt(x+3) +2x)
And dividing too, ofc
But still getting 0/0
What I've done is here
multiply the denominator and the numerator by sqrtx + 1
i dont know, try it
weird i forgot how to deal with these kind of limit lmao
I was thinking on doing the conjugate too, but no idea why doesn't work
Wdym
like :
$$\frac{\sqrt{x+3}}{\sqrt{x}-1} -\frac{2x}{\sqrt{x}-1}$$
Herels
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how did step 3 become step 4
(n-2) was factored out, and the parenthesis were opened
(n-2)^2 +2(n-1)(n-2) = > (n-2)((n-2)+2(n-1))
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hi
so I'd need some guild for next step
,tex
The solid between the sphere $x^2 +y^2 +z^2 = 19$ and the hyperboloid $z^2 -x^2 -y^2 = 1$,
for $z > 0$\\
Converting to spherical coordination:\\
$\begin{cases}
x=\rho\sin(\phi)\cos(\theta)\\
y=\rho\sin(\phi)\sin(\theta)\\
z=\rho\cos(\phi)\\
\end{cases}$\\
$x^2+y^2+z^2=19 \Rightarrow \rho^2=19 \Rightarrow \rho =\sqrt{19}\\
\begin{aligned}
z^2 -x^2 -y^2 &= 1\\
\Rightarrow z^2&=1+(x^2+y^2)\\
\Rightarrow \rho^2\cos^2(\phi)&=1+(\rho^2\sin^2(\phi)\cos^2(\theta)+\rho^2\sin^2(\phi)\sin^2(\theta))\\
\Rightarrow \rho^2\cos^2(\phi)&=1+\rho^2\sin^2(\phi)\\
\Rightarrow \rho^2(\cos^2(\phi)-\sin^2(\phi))&=1\\
\end{aligned}$
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You roll a 100 sided die, you get to keep the value of your roll. How much would you pay if you can reroll and infinite number of times and pay one dollar per roll?
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uh what, isn't this a bit subjective
people will pay however much they feel they want to depending on how much they want to gamble
true
its asking how much would you pay to play this game
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hello I'm confused on what to do here was hoping to find some help
question c
Can you find v at t=5?
how do I go about doing that?
ahh I see, I could do that but the questions are based on integration and differentiation so I assume the preferred answer would have to involve those methods
not to mention the entire questions is worth quite a few marks so yeah :/
Aha so do you know that velocity is derivative of distance over time?
yeup
So to find distance you would need to integrate v
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what calc concept is a derivative before an integral?
is it calc 2 thing?
You mean the fundamental theorem of calculus? Yeah calc 2
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how do i differentiate this
quotient and product rules
hope you aren't being asked to do it from first principles
if you are that'll be pain
yep i know i have to use quotient rule but what do i differentiate that e
oh ofc not first principles
do you know what the derivative of e^x is?
the derivative of e^x is e^x.
you made mistakes in several places
oh
also maybe consider listening to things when someone tells you something
just as a life pro tip
ok
so how do i differentiate e^x?
well instead of already knowing the answer i just wanna know the process
you need to know the limit lim[t -> 0] (e^t - 1)/t = 1
which software do you use atomic?
how?
ctrl+scroll
how do you take screenshot though?
hey, can i upload pic of problem i need help about?
oh ok sorry and ty
and yes you can upload a pic
why do you need a program
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just do
windows key + shift + S
there's a built in snipping tool as well in windows
its stripped from my pc
what does that mean
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if I apply a function to itself infinity * n times, it's not the same as just applying the function to itself infinity times, right?
well first clearly define what "applying a function to itself infinity times" means
then we can talk
$f(f(f(x)))$ this is applying f to itself 3 times
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and applying it to itself infinitely many times would be
$\lim_{x \to \infty} a_x, \text{ where } a_k := f(a_{k-1}) \text{ and } a_0 = x$
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ok and we are assuming that this limit exists
yes
then probably the limit is a fixed point of f. so applying f one more time just leaves it fixed
so now what exactly is your question?
if $a_{\infty \cdot n}$ converges to a fixed point, does $a_{\infty}$ too?
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$\lim_{x \to \infty} a_x$
notational shorthand
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\begin{align*} f(L)&=f\left(\lim_{n\to\infty} f^n(x)\right) = \lim_{n\to\infty} f\left(f^n(x)\right) \&= \lim_{n\to\infty} f^{n+1}(x) = \lim_{n-1 \to \infty} f^{n}(x) \&= \lim_{n\to\infty} f^n(x) = L \end{align*}
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assuming f is cont
thanks c:
well if you mean that, then a_\infty is a number. so asking if it "converges" is weird
that's like saying asking if $\sum^\infty_{i} a_i$ "converges" is weird as it's a number
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anyhow
fair enough
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can the same trick be applied here? assume I have a $x$ st $f^n(x) = x$ thus $$\begin{align}\lim_{k \to \infty} f^{k \cdot n}(x) &= x\ \lim_{n \cdot k \to \infty} f^k(x) &= x \ \lim_{k \to \infty} f^k(x) &= x\end{align}$$
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so, first off, just because $f^n(x)=x$ for some $n$, does not mean $\lim_{n\to\infty} f^n(x)$ converges. do you mean that $f^n(x)=x$ for all $n$?
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that answers my question
thx
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What have you tried
I tried changing equating the equation to 0
And trying to find two values of t when h=0
Which equation
That should be equal to what
What is the left side equal to
In general what is it equal to not this specific case you’ve made
No it’s equal to H yeah?
Why is there decimal here
You basically never want to use decimal when dealing with these things in math
I put decimals because part (a) asked for decimal to 3.d.p
Oh yuck
So what happens when you solve for h=0
What answer do you get for the given bounds
dont forget the question is asking for an amount of time
?
this only tells you when P is at water level
that aint the question, the question asks for the time P spent under water
So subtract the two values right?
are you sure?
I think so. The two values of t when h=0. So subtracting them would find the total time under zero?
ok so instead of finding for h = 0
what else can you do
h = 0 gives u the points in time at which P is on water level
No idea tbh
what does it mean if it's under water with h
Negative h value
so mathematically that means?
?
h < 0
Is that what you meant
I was so lost lol
it gets hard to convert it into something you can do math with
so i like to keep the things written in math form
Fair enough
because with h < 0 you have an inequality
and then u also know that h = Rcos(something) + c
whatever that equation u had was
so you can solve for that < 0
this thing
you would get a range
Yh
But I need total time not a range