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clever karma
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okay yayyy

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how wuld u do 1/3lnx+2ln(3x-5)

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ik u have to use power propetty

empty gyro
clever karma
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nothing we just have to express as a single log

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sorry forgot to mention that

empty gyro
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then yes, use the power property

clever karma
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so it becoms lnx^1/3+ln(3x-5)^2

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and then i can use the like add propety or wtv its caled

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so like lnx^1/3(3x-5)^2

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can i simplify that any more

empty gyro
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what you wrote is satisfactory

clever karma
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wait is ln a log

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okay so for the problem 2lnx-1/2ln(x^2-1)+3ln(x^2+1) i simplified it so ln x^2/(x^2-1)^1/2 + ln (x^2+1)^3 is that right so far???

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and then it bcomes the first part times x^2+1)^3

heavy glade
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id help if i could understand anything, just write and send photos

clever karma
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tysm! im just still a little stuck on understanding how to do ln(ln x)=2

heavy glade
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that would mean e^2 = lnx which means e^e^2 = x

clever karma
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wait it becomes like that because u make e on both sides

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but one of the lns cancel out the e

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so it just becomes e^2=lnx

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but how does it become e^e^2

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like do u just divide by ln?

heavy glade
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say lna = b

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clever karma
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๐Ÿฅฒ ๐Ÿฅฒ ๐Ÿฅฒ

clever karma
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tysm for helping me understand those problems i actually get them now

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im just confused on the ln(ln x)=2

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i get how to do lnx=e^2

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clever karma
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and then e and ln cancel out

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bc they inversw

empty gyro
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leaving you with what?

clever karma
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okay so now (ln x)=e^2

empty gyro
clever karma
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omg

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OMG

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so its now e^lnx=e^e^2

heavy glade
clever karma
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leaving u w x=e^e^2

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OMG

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savior

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so anytime theres an ln just put it to the cpower of eto cancel out

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clever karma
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omg tysm youve genuinely taught me more than my teacher has all semester

empty gyro
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TYSMMMM!!!!

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clever karma
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heh...not questionless for long

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how do i do e^x=4

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ik its supposed to be simple but uh

empty gyro
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just ln on both side

raven hearth
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x= ln(4)

clever karma
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oh my im such a chud

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thanks guys

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clever karma
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HELLO

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how do i do 2^x-5=3

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im confused now that it doesnt have an ln or e

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do i just do 2(x-5)=3

empty gyro
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Take log of both sides

clever karma
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oh fart

warped reef
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2^x=8

clever karma
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how did u get that

warped reef
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X=log8, base 2

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# warped reef X=log8, base 2

As a helper, please do not give out answers that could be copied as a homework solution. Have the student work through the problem themselves and guide them along the way.

clever karma
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damn so just log base 2^x=log base 8

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empty gyro
warped reef
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Ohh, 8 misinterpreted the q

warped reef
clever karma
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btw im finding the solution of each equation to four decimal places

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so just log base 2^x=log base 8?

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but like does the x come down i dontget it

warped reef
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2^(x-5)=3 is the q?

clever karma
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yes

empty gyro
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@clever karma this is why parentheses are important

clever karma
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i need to find the solution so it should be like a decimal point

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SORRYY GUYS

warped reef
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Then wt i said is wrong haha

empty gyro
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Try writing 2^(x-5)=3 next time

clever karma
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okay fsfs

warped reef
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Then take log on both sides(base2)

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So that 2^ is removed

clever karma
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wait so can i just make the right side log base 2 of 3?

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i can make the base wtv i watnt right

empty gyro
clever karma
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so when i have a problem like that if i want i can make it a log

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even when it has no ln and e

warped reef
clever karma
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okay nice

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so now its x-5=log base 2 of 3?

warped reef
warped reef
clever karma
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so its just log base 2 of 3+5

warped reef
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Parentheses, but ya

clever karma
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tysmsmsmsms

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clever karma
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help

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e^x+4e^(-x)=5

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i got as far as e^x+e^(-4x)=5

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idk of thats right

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do i combine the e powers?

heavy glade
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can you?

clever karma
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not sure ngl

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i dont think so if ur not mulriplfying right

heavy glade
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yep

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uk what negative power means right

clever karma
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so i becomes ln^x+ln^(-4x)=5

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fraction right

heavy glade
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like the reciprocal of the thing without the negative

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so a^(-b) = 1/a^b

clever karma
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decimals

heavy glade
clever karma
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oh fart

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did i do smth wrong

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i fdont get how to simplfiyit

heavy glade
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idk i just dont get it

clever karma
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me too

heavy glade
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id first turn the negative power into a "fraction"

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basically its reciprocal form

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then see what i can do

clever karma
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okay so e^-x---> 1/e^x

heavy glade
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yep

clever karma
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where do i go from e^x+4(1/ex)=5

heavy glade
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uk how to solve quadratics right?

clever karma
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si

heavy glade
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alright

clever karma
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omg no dont tell me this is a QUADRATIC

heavy glade
clever karma
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e^x

heavy glade
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so turn them into like fractions

clever karma
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factor it out?

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oh

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wait im so sorry wdym vy that

heavy glade
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you have e^x and 4/e^x

clever karma
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si

heavy glade
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make these two into like fractions

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uk what like fractions are right

clever karma
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uhm

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okay wiait yes

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how do i do that again

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IM SORRY I FORGET THINGS

heavy glade
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so multiply the e^x by e^x/e^x

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then both of the terms will have denominator e^x

clever karma
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oay so 1/e^x+4(1/e^x)=5

heavy glade
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did you learn in spanish? if so i could explain terms like denominators and all that

clever karma
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no

heavy glade
clever karma
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im soryr i just say si

heavy glade
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alright

clever karma
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what do i do from here

heavy glade
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quadratics ๐Ÿ’€

clever karma
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OH

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SHIIIIIHEHHAHHHAHA

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LMFAO

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LMFAO

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okay i see sorry

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im a bum

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tysm

heavy glade
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yep

normal moss
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That ๐Ÿ’ก moment

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dim socket
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mortal sandal
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Try multiplying it by itself once by hand, the inner and outer blocks essentially act separately

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in fact this can be Jordan-ized with the right permutation matrix

dim socket
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should I have to trap the pattern?

mortal sandal
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I mean it's basically two separate matrices

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the first and fourth rows/columns and the second/third

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But the easiest way is probably just to compute a few powers by hand and then see there's a simple pattern

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potent oar
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"define where f(x) exists"
hm... okay i get the bottom part, that's x+2>0 so x>-2, that's fine, but the top part...
the argument of log must be greater than 0, so e^-4x - sqrt(e) > 0, so far so good, but then
e^-4x > sqrt(e)... yeah i'm lost now... how do i proceed?

potent oar
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i mean, i can square both...
e^-8x > e... that doesnt get me much further...

analog quartz
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try taking log?

potent oar
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1^-8x > 1?

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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

analog quartz
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wdym?

potent oar
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is that wrong?

versed wave
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yes

analog quartz
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i meant you can take log on both sides

potent oar
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if i rememer correctly log(e^x) is... wait what was it...

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oh okay wait

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so... -8x > 1? idk...

analog quartz
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yeah

potent oar
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oh okay yeah the solution...

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x<-1/8... so... C

analog quartz
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you can also say since e^-8x > e, then than implies -8x > 1, since the base is same here

potent oar
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and since i multiply x by a negative number i have to invert the inequality, right?

analog quartz
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yeah

potent oar
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okay perfect, thanks

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lofty kelp
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??

fading mural
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hint: AM-HM inequality

lofty kelp
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oh , how ??

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we arnt suppose to maximize anything here right ?

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thats what we use AM - GM inequality for , generally

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also i am not getting that summation

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lofty kelp
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lol

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can u give a little hintt

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from where to start

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ill solve it

fading mural
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ig

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compare them to alpha, beta and gamma

lofty kelp
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ohk let me try

analog quartz
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but yes am gm is used here in the end

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ill try to give a hint

lofty kelp
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sure

analog quartz
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||using the information given, you can find a value of beta in terms of the coefficients, and same for alpha + gamma. once you sub that in, apply am gm inequality||

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queen ingot
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i found || b^2 = ag ||, is that correct?

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queen ingot
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oh i forgot something

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my leading term coefficient

analog quartz
queen ingot
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oh you want the bound for || the greatest integer function, don't you? ||

analog quartz
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yeah

lofty kelp
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i got it

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thanks

analog quartz
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you can bound the expression inside

lofty kelp
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6

analog quartz
lofty kelp
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gif is k is 0

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wo , 2^0 , 6 times

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in summation

analog quartz
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yeah

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proven smelt
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for a graph like 1/x^2, is the range >0 or R{0}?

jade charm
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it is greater than 0.

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thin stream
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hippity hoppoty this chanel is my property
are those two 75 degree angles correspodning?

thin bridge
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the one with the red arrow, no

thin stream
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how are the two diagrams diffierent?

thin bridge
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these are two separate lines

marsh gorge
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and'

thin stream
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duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude

marsh gorge
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the other line is continous to ab

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thin bridge
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if its intended as a direct extension it should appear as such

thin stream
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my drawings are poopers

thin bridge
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if it is, then yes, those angles would be corresponding

thin stream
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sorry

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oh

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thank youi

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holy shiz

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imma keep this open

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im gonna actually do the real question and get it checked by one of yallz

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since i dont have access to the answer key

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could some kind hearted young soul checkt his for me

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i hope my handwriting isnt too shitty

thin bridge
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c is incorrect

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note that the bearing is the angle measured clockwise from north

thin stream
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oh right

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clockwise

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oops

thin bridge
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in part ii), that dotted line isn't facing north/vertical

thin stream
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im going a little crazy

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ive been doing maths all day

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can i get a clue for cii?

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@thin bridge

thin bridge
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firstly that won't be a right angle up top

thin stream
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaat

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it looks pretty durn

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perpendicular to me

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theta is the bearing im trying to find btw

thin bridge
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what you drew earlier (which doesn't really help) would be representative of something perpendicular

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extend that vertical line further

thin stream
thin bridge
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yes

thin stream
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i did

thin bridge
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that'll be another vertical/north line
and you can apply corresponding angles property again to get another 75ยฐ angle

thin stream
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let me see

thin stream
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i should revisit this stuff

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again before doing bearings

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it cant be helped
le test soon

thin bridge
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note that you already know <ABC

thin stream
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yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

thin bridge
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getting theta from there is pretty much an application of exterior angle theorem
(angle sum of a line with angle sum of a triangle)

thin stream
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that is not accurate of what the real digram looks like tho
i cant just join the north line of and the north line of A to make zat triangle
lik... do u get wht im trynna say

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oh wait

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thats still AC but just super warped looking

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argh

thin bridge
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you should make a cleaner diagram

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if you're editing an image electronically
you should have access to line tools

thin stream
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cleaner diagram

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i gtg

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do some stuffill

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be back

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theta smells like 75

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b ut im not sure

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no its not

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br

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brb

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like 30 min

thin bridge
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that'll be another vertical/north line
and you can apply corresponding angles property again to get another 75ยฐ angle
note that you already know <ABC

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getting theta from there is pretty much an application of exterior angle theorem
(angle sum of a line with angle sum of a triangle)

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oops

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ty lad

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clever karma
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chu

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i need more help w ln and logs

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(ln x)^2-4=0

manic patrol
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hi OP, what have you tried so far?

clever karma
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adding 4 to the riht

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so (ln x)^2=4?

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and then square root

manic patrol
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that would be correct.

clever karma
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lnx=2

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and then e of both sides?

delicate shore
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ยฑ2

clever karma
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wouldnt it be e^2

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oh chud

manic patrol
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that is but one answer.

clever karma
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im supposed to solve for x like

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in decimals

manic patrol
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always remember that when taking the square root of both sides, barring any limitations of domains or ranges, both positive and negative solutions should be considered.

clever karma
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oh my gohs

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okaywait

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so its e^+_2??

manic patrol
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yes. but resolve them separately; otherwise this looks rather ugly-looking. and since you need them in decimal form anyway, you should consider them separately.

clever karma
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okay cool cool tysmmm

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and i have one more question

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e^x+4e^-x=5

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i cant figue it out

main mural
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multiply both sides by e^x

clever karma
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wait so that would become (e^x)(e^x+4e^-x)=5e^x

main mural
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yes

clever karma
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do i distribute?

main mural
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yup

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what do you get?

clever karma
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wait so e^2^2x

manic patrol
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after doing so, you may be able to notice something amongst the remaining terms.
if it isn't clear, you could try rewriting one of the terms using the power law of exponents to more clearly expose the pattern.

clever karma
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oh shoot

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uhmmmmmm

main mural
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what is e^x * e^x

clever karma
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e^xe^x?

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okay uhmm

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e^2x

main mural
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yup!

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and what about e^x * e^(-x)

clever karma
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so e^2x+4e^-x=5e^x

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or

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waiy

main mural
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you haven't multiplied 4e^(-x) by e^x

clever karma
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u add them

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so e^0

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so 1

main mural
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yess

clever karma
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so that jus equals four?

main mural
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indeed

clever karma
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so e^2x+4=5e^x

main mural
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yes

clever karma
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do i sub 4 from both sides

main mural
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"sub 4"?

clever karma
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subtract

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sorry

manic patrol
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might be unproductive.

main mural
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oh i thought you wrote substitute lol

clever karma
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do i just take ln of both sides ???

main mural
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no

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move everything to the left side

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i.e. subtract 5e^x from both sides

clever karma
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dont tell me i have to factor

main mural
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well sorta

manic patrol
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you will have to factor in a way, yes.

clever karma
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wait im sorry idk how to factor it

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e^2x-5ex+4=0

manic patrol
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try rewriting e^2x.

clever karma
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oh wait so 2xe

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omg

main mural
clever karma
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wait maybe is it 2e^x

main mural
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stop guessing ๐Ÿฅ€

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xd

clever karma
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guys im sorry that was my educated guess

manic patrol
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please consider the power rule of exponents!

clever karma
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dent that mean that the power just comes down

main mural
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yes but you can also bring it back up

manic patrol
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$a^{bc} = (a^b)^c$

clever karma
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so (e^x)^2 ---> 2(e^x)

flat frigateBOT
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trilunar arithmetic (Columbina)

manic patrol
clever karma
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omg

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wait

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BRING THE OTHER ONE UP

manic patrol
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$e^{x^2} \neq 2e^x$!!

flat frigateBOT
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trilunar arithmetic (Columbina)

main mural
clever karma
manic patrol
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(for all x except x = 1.)

clever karma
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wait so do i bring -5ex up?

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or e^(2x) down

main mural
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great and the thing is you can do it the other way
you have e^(2x) but that equals (e^x)^2

manic patrol
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you will need to target the e^2x.

main mural
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that's it

clever karma
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okay so i bring (e^x)^2 down

main mural
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no you keep (e^x)^2

clever karma
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so e^2x

main mural
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no

clever karma
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im so sorry i gtenuienlt cant get it

main mural
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what you had is
e^(2x) - 5e^x + 4 = 0
now what you want to have is
(e^x)^2 - 5e^x + 4 = 0

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okay i hav the second one

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great!!

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the cool thing about it is that it's completely in terms of e^x

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so now you can let t=e^x

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oh so i have to replace t with e^x

main mural
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and you get t^2 - 5t + 4 = 0

clever karma
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and factor it like a quadratic

main mural
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just solve t^2 - 5t + 4 = 0

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so i just tyr to get a common factor of e^x

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so i can change it into t like this

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oka wait

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after i factor it

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it becomes (x-4)(x-1)

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so i get 4, and 1

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yes

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then do i go back and put those in the og equation?

main mural
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so that means t=4 or t=1

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so you have e^x = 4 or e^x = 1

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OH so i have two equtions and i need t slve for both

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yesss

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so (e^4)^2-5e^4+4=0

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and (e)^2-5e^2+4=0

manic patrol
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overcomplicating!

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oh fart

manic patrol
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and also wrong.

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oh FART

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what do you get when you solve e^x = 4

manic patrol
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since you know that e^x = 4, don't you have a tool that can help you find an unknown exponent given a base and value? you know, one that starts with an L?

clever karma
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log?

main mural
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yess

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so log base e of 4?

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wait im so soryr im dumb i dont evenknow

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is it ln

manic patrol
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yes!

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so lne^4^2

main mural
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it's just x=ln(4)

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you can also write it as 2 ln(2) but ln(4) suffices

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so that's one of your solutions for x

clever karma
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so ln(4)-5e^4+4=0?

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wait so i plug it back into the WHOLE equation

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why are you plugging back in in the first place?

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oh chud

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why are we plugging it back in though? catthink

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i dont know

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do i just make it ln(1) and ln(4)

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our job is to find x; unless you want to cross-check for some reason, you don't have to substitute any of your answers back in.

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what is ln(1)? it's a special value

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so in these types of problems i get e^x, make them t, and find x and then make those x's lns

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so x=ln(4) or x=0

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those are your 2 solutions

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niceeee tysmmm

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for e^x-6e^-x=1 is it the same thing

main mural
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yes it's identical

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get everything in terms of e^x, and then do t=e^x and solve the quadratic, etc.

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that's the general algorithm

clever karma
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so (e^x)^2-e^x-6=0?

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so t^2-t-6=0

main mural
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now here you'll actually encounter a little trap so be careful. what values of t do you get here?

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3 and -2?

main mural
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yes

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so ln(3)

main mural
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yes

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but u cant do ln(-2)?

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so js ln(3)

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indeed!

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uhm...guys....

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(ln x)^2+(ln x)-2=0

main mural
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you can do same as before except let t=ln(x) this time

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oh tyssmsms

manic patrol
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if you see something that looks like a quadratic it most likely is a quadratic and you can most likely treat it that way.

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wait so it becomes t^2+t-2

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which is (t+2)(t-1) so js ln(-2), ln(1)?

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all correct up until the very last point

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remember what t is

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t=ln(x)

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so t=-2 means ln(x) = -2

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ohhhhhhhhh

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it changes hee

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so what is x?

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so x=e or e^2?

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e or e^(-2)

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but yes

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i mean -2

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question need to be solved using laplase trasform
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i have to say if and why $\left( \begin{array}{rrr}8&4&9\-3&1&-3\-6&-4&7\\end{array}\right)$ can be diagonlized or not. so my approach was at first glance set $|A-\lambda E|=$ but i did it like three times and everytime i got a different characteristic polynom. prob im just bad in algebra but the numbers there get really really big. the idea is to compare the number of eigenvectors needed for a certain eigenvalue and if it is equal to the number of how often that specific eigenvalue is an eigenvalue. if you know what i mean.

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My first and second try. With -lambdaยณ +16lambdaยฒ i'm quite confident. But the rest is problematic

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*forgot. The determinant ofc has to be set equal to 0.

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it is like figuring out when i can say my determinant is correct. guessing with such big polynomials is absurd

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btw that was an exam exercise from 2016 without aids. so it should be solvable in like max. 12 min without a calc

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You did 3*64 = 202 near the end of first page

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If you fix that your answer will be right

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interesting. i should get -xยณ+16ยฒ-125x+278 =0 which is not quite better. like if i just try to get the zeropoints with a CAS i still get weird looking values. i dont really beliefe that is the way :(

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ok i didnt want to but i looked it up. it is correct

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i guess thx though im confused with that exercise. i can really not get those eigenvalues by guessing

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they are even complex :')

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i did. and it is correct.

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so why are you using CAS

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cause i have to tell if A can be diagonalised. and for that the number of eigenvectors for a eigenvalue has to be equal to the number of times this eigenvalue exsists. but my idea is that at this point it doesnt really matter what the eigenvalues even are. if i know that there are three, then i know that every eigenvalue has exact one eigenvector and A can be diagonalised

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i try it another time. thx anyway

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well the derivative is always negative so there's only 1 real root

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so it's only diagonalizable over C

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2^x+3^x=-1

plucky elk
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can x be a complex number

clever karma
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no im doing like logs and e and ln

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then i recommend taking a picture of the original question and sending it

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okay! one second!

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,rotate

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do you know that 2^x and 3^x are both always positive?

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,w plot 2^x

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like do i know in thecontext of the problem orrr is that like factual?

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it's a fact

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OHH

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do you think there's a way you can add two positive numbers to get a negative?

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no

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right

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what do you think the correct answer to "solve" would be then?

clever karma
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to make the exponents negative?

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im not sure

plucky elk
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if there's no way to add two positive numbers to get a negative one, but someone asked you for them, what should you tell them

clever karma
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thats not possible

plucky elk
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right

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๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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oh wait

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plucky elk
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yes no solution is another way to put it

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OMG IT IS HAHAHAHAHHAHA

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carmine tulip
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Does the equation have any complex solutions?

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bruh

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LMAO

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wait for 3 times 4^2x + 5 times 4^4x=2

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do i combine the times first

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btw the times are like the little dots

plucky elk
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you can't combine them in any meaningful way

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you just use substitution

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$3 \cdot 4^{2x} + 5 \cdot 4^{4x} = 2$

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covert yoke
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@clever karma this?

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si si

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wait no

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the 4^x

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is just to x

covert yoke
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if so what happens if we replace u = 4^(2x)?

clever karma
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not 4x

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covert yoke
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oh

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in that case let u = 4^x

clever karma
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omg wait

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so u make it a quadratic?

covert yoke
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yes!

clever karma
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so whenever i see a common base in a problem i use substitutinm.>?

covert yoke
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you can try it

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wait so when i have 3 dot u^2 + 5 dot u=2

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what do i do?????????

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just combine?

covert yoke
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You know how to solve a quadratic yes?

clever karma
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yes

covert yoke
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just do that

clever karma
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wait even if it has a dot

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can i just seperate the 3 dot u^2?

covert yoke
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the dot is just a multiplication

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si

covert yoke
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3 dot u^2 is just 3u^2

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oohokokk

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so 3u^2+5u-2=0

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and x cant b negtivr right

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like in the context of the question how do i check?

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do i plug it in for x?

covert yoke
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x can be negative, but u is the result of an exponentiation, so it can never be negative (unless we count complex results.)

clever karma
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so my solutions are -2, 1/3

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but it cant be -2

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like what do i plug that in to?

covert yoke
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u = -2 and u = 1/3?

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every x in the og equation?

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well, u = 4^x

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so you have -2 = 4^x and 1/3 = 4^x

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The first has no real solutions

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the second you can get by using logarithms.

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pojhh i jeep forgetting that i have to check with that u equals

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3ln(6xโˆ’3)โˆ’5=16

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okay simplify it down into ln(f(x)) = C

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๐Ÿ˜ญ ๐Ÿ˜ญ idk hiw

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putting the 3 as a power?

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no like just add 5 on both sides

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oH FUH

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okay i got that

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what next?

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now divide 3 on both sides

clever karma
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okay

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ln(6x-3)=7?

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yes

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do i raise to e?

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now raise both sides to the power of e

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to get rid of ln?

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best way to improve mental math?

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sqrt(1+2*sqrt(1+3*sqrt(1+4*sqrt(1+5*sqrt(...)))))=?

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I remember the method had something to do with using nCr

mossy lotus
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yep, its just choosing 2 people from amongst the n to shake hands

night heath
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how do you express nCr in factorial form again?

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seein things like these really disappoint me on what they teach us rn ๐Ÿฅ€ ๐Ÿ’”

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if only we could be taught such wonderful questions actually concerning maths and not simply rote learning ah.

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slayla

solar hazel
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a little bit of algebra will get you there

night heath
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n(n-1)/2

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yea that works out

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can someone explain Binomial expansion with the example of $(3a-b^2)^9$ (Ik pascals triangle so dont bother w/ that

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Cowking

night heath
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like help me find the first 3 terms

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nvm

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for part e the answer is that it has a staircase pattern and thereforeit converges

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but earlier he says that if it has a staircase pattern it diverges

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i am really confused

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I don't really understand it either

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i just know how to draw the pattern on the graph

median vigil
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(a) is a convergent staircase, (c) is a divergent staircase

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exactly

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do i just

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remember that b gets closer and closer

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to the intersection

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and d doesnt get closer and closer

median vigil
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yeah

fringe dock
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is that all

median vigil
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the whole idea of convergence is that each iteration brings you closer to the intersection, and divergence is that it does not do that

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okay

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one thing

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what does it mean when i find something that is closer or further away from the intersection?

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I am not sure what i'm doing other than following a pattern I've memorised

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Heres my working i dont know how to continue the second sum

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sinful token
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ok guys

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sinful token
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how to be good with the redaction in math

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any tips

ebon igloo
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sinful token
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ERM

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writting

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i meant

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writting math

ebon igloo
drifting sierra
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Writting

sinful token
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ensure that the writing is attractive and rigorous

drifting sierra
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Right

sinful token
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without spreading yourself too thin and ensuring that the formulas are structured

ebon igloo
sinful token
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guys this is a real problem ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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yeah improve writing

ebon igloo
sinful token
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stoop the crying emoji

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

ebon igloo
sinful token
ebon igloo
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college or what?

sinful token
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yea college

ebon igloo
sinful token
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i agrree w emoji tht time bro

sinful token
ebon igloo
sinful token
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yeah

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any tips guys

ebon igloo
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honest perch
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can you write greek letters?

sinful token
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some yea

honest perch
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good

ebon igloo
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yeah lambda ect

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but only that

honest perch
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if you want to prove something that start with "for all eps>0 ..." then in ur proof it's good to start with "let eps>0"

ebon igloo
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? yes i know

ebon igloo
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what is funny ๐Ÿ˜ญ ??

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is it a help channel or what

honest perch
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nothing

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is funny.

ebon igloo
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now how to help you in that

sinful token
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like the only good thing i can say is write better

sinful token
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is it a sensitive subject orr

ebon igloo
sinful token
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yea?

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Write numbers 1-100 daily two times

ebon igloo
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you are the first person who ever got this problem

sinful token
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pretty sure im not thhe only one!!

sinful token
ebon igloo
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obsidian ginkgo
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Learn what different symbols mean, there's different symbols that mean for all, since etc
Also read formal proofs and write how they write

honest perch
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if ur thinking is clear, ur writing will also be clear

sinful token
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I see

honest perch
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like u wanna fix eps>0 in the beginning

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and u don't change it for the rest of the proof

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you could also write "fix eps>0"

sinful token
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Ohh i tend to forgot that tbf so thanks

obsidian ginkgo
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Also checkout a guide to writing math by Dr Kevin Lee

proud tree
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just a general tip for stuff like proofs: avoid symbol soup, words are much easier to understand but I'm not telling you to not use symbols at all

honest perch
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also if ur defining a new symbol (f) like f = g - h, then make it clear that ur defining it and it doesn't follow from somewhere else

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like say, let f = g-h

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instead of just f = g-h

sinful token
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I would like to dothat

honest perch
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not necessarily. define things in ur proof where they naturally arise

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eg if u wanna define delta_1 = eps/2 and delta_2 = eps/3. do that where it should occur most naturally, not necessarily at the beginning

deep flint
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?

white violet
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proud tree
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as to what content is apt to write, it honestly depends, for example if you are taking a particular course, you might use definitions and theorems almost without mention if you're deep into it but would probably be particular about them earlier in

sinful token
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๐Ÿ’€

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yall should see the teacher

honest perch
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no i mean, what are u writing

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or u just want general advice

sinful token
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general advice for answering exercice

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or test

honest perch
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is it proof based?

sinful token
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nope

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they dont do it yet

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im a computer science student

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but we have some math

honest perch
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oh ๐Ÿ’€

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