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5.625
ok time to line it up
Exactly :D
5.625
5.7
no it 5.667
Let me ask you a question
Which one is the smallest number in the following:
5700, 5600, 5625 and 5667
5600
5.6
do i add it from the start
Wait
Let's go back to my example
5700, 5600, 5625, 5667
We know the smallest number is 5600, right?
What's the next smallest number?
Good! So
5.7, 5.6, 5.625, 5.667
The smallest number is 5.6. What is the next smallest number?
5.667
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm are you sure?
Your previous answer seems to disagree
oh
Don't think too hard :)
The next smallest number is this
So
What do you think
The next smallest number here is?
5.7
It's not a trick question, I assure you
nope
isnt 5.625

5.625>5.6
If the smallest number is 5.6, the next smallest is 5.625
yep
the smallest number in the chain of answers to choose from is 100% 5.6, 5.6 = 5.600
just put all the numbers in the same format and choose the smallest
you shouldnt overthink it
do i put it next to 5.6
yes
yes
5.600, 5.625, 5.667, 5.700
from small to big little to high however u want to call it
ok then after that is 5.7
oh so it 5.667
the last one is 5.7
yep
ok next one i have a back side to
alright
so
lets say u have 5/10th
right
thats the same as 0.5
were on number 8
the correct mathematical way to give an answer in this context is giving the tiniest fraction
oh
5/10th is the same as 1/2nd
1/6th would be the same as 2/12th
1/6th is just the shortened version of 2/12th
u have to have some sort of insight to get the answer for equations like this
ok
i recommend u watch strategy videos on youtube if youre really struggling, or read the provided theory
2/3
Aight hello guys
👋
im on the back now we can use calculators
Send picture of the back, or is it further up
Kinda blurry
Aight that's fine
ok
Is this like hw or a practice exam or smthn
nah it homework due ||tomorrow||
Cold
...
Ya
4/5 is 0.8
Ya
Waig
Have u converted eveyrthjng
yes
0.625 0.8 0.08 0.875 and 8
Aight, first make them all have the same number of decimal places
ok
0.625, 0.800, 0.080, 0.875 and 8.000
U can tell 8 is the highest so put that at the top
so at he end
???
ok
are you allowed a calculator
yes
We already calculated the values
Okay
So rearrange the new numbers in ascending order
The ones without the 0.
0.08 turns into a 8
80
From this set of numbers arrange them in order
625 at the start
Right now I dont want you to focus on the decimal points just those numbers
Order th3se numbers without the decimal points in ascending order
now 0.8 in front of 0.08
0.08 is smaller than 0.8
Like 80 is smaller than 800
oh
Continue after 0.08
875
625
Then?
Yes
0.8
oh cuz i have 0.08 0.625
Now u have 0.08, 0.625, 0.8, what goes next
875
Convert that to the decimal form by adding 0.
0.875
0.08 0.625 0.8 0.875 8
The way to think about decimal sizes is this:
When you have a decimal, the more zeros there are in the front, the smaller it is.
.01 is bigger than .001
In any example like the one you are doing, you can go break the problem up into groups in your head.
So .08 is smallest group, then .625 and .8 and .875.
Since .08 is the smallest, thats obviously first.
Then, for the next group, 6 is smaller than 8 so .625 is the next smallest.
Then, the next 2 both have 8 so we go to the next number in the decimal. The first is .80 and the other is .87. .87 is larger than .8
ok im done
done next one
i did
What's the list
0.08 5/8 4/5 0.875 8
1 3/4 is 1.75
Ya
got my answers
What are they
oh
Why would it be at the beginning
Oh what
greatest to least
ok
Using that logic what is next
the beggeding is 1.7
I thought It is from greatest to smallets
But isn't there something greater than 1.7
idk how to do this
Did u convert all the numbers to decimals?
If u did list them here
no im still tryna figuer it out
Ok tell me when u are fully stuck
im stuck
Aight, first convert all the numbers into decimals with ur calculator
List them out here
how
You know that 17 over 10 is 1.7
Convert 1 and 3/4 into a mixed number
Yep
then 1.7 infront of 1.9
But what's bigger than 1.7
1.708
do i add it infront of the 1.9
There is smth. Else bigger than 1.708
Look closely at the fractions
1.655 infront of the 1.9
Nono
U were on the right path
1.708 is bigger than 1.7
But what's bigger than 1.708?
idk
What decinal does the 1 and 3/4 make
?
in minnesota
ok
1.75
Yes what is bigger 1.75 or 1.708
Yes good
Now what is bigger 1.708 or 1.7?
1.7
No 1.7 is equal to 1.700 which is smaller than 1.708
Think of it as 1700 being smaller than 1708
oh it 1.708
Yes so the order goes 1.9, 1.75, 1.708, then what?
Whats bigger 1.700 or 1.655
1.700
can you put it in a order
1.9, 1 and 3/4, 1.708, 17/10, 1.655
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Hello
hi
Hi!
Alight my gf has a project and needs help
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how do i solve this problem?
$(f^{-1})^'$ is the derivative of $f^{-1}$. $(f^')^{-1}$ is the inverse of $f^'$
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oh i will find the inverse of f which is the original then i should find the derivative of it
yes
hmm for this f(x) how do i find the inverse for cubic
so will this be my inverse of f
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are some cases with shell/disk method impossible
like how would you shell method this
i see how to disk method im pretty sure
but shell looks extremely impractical if not imposible
which axis are you rotating around?
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$\int_a^b f(x) dx = \int_a^c f(x) dx + \int_c^b f(x) dx$
not really needed since the f(x) is squared, but it might help
uhh x axis mb
i wate dinner and came back
i think its impossible for a normal hs student cuz like
whats the function like?
for shell we wanna make it parrele to axis of rotation
^
i cant think of a way to find the distance betwen the curves of the same function, esp since i have no idea how to break up a wuadeatoc
more like, the formula
it looks like a cubic
you know how you get +/- in the quadratic formula?
yeah with quad formula i suppose
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I have a question regarding the Second Fundamental Theorem of Calculus. The formula is f(x) = d/dx [ ∫ f(t)dt ] with bounds of x and a, where a is a constant. Can we move the d/dx to the other side, such that f'(x) = [ ∫ f(t)dt ] ?
yes this is just notation
Thank you. Just wanted to make sure.
i think you meant F'(x) = d/dx (int)?
That's not what it says in my notes, which I will take a picture of shortly.
It might have been a mistake on my part.
well if you have f(x) = d/dx int f then f'(x) = d^2/dx^2 int f which is not int f
Sorry to interrupt, but firstly, is this the correct formula?
,rotate
yes this is true
but no you are confusing notation then
if you think you can just "move the d/dx" over
Okay.
I thought it was what you were supposed to do in a practice problem, but I was mistaken.
Alright, I think that'll be all. Thank you for your help!
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look it up in the z-table
ik but idk if he will give me it
i have a test on it tomorrow
bruh he must give it, theres no way teacher gonna twll u to memorize allat
idk if he will give us a z table during the test or not
is there a way to calculate or na
um sorry I forgot 😅
im just gonna risk it and see if he does or not ngl
frick him if he dont
thanks @jolly sail !
wait for a helper @last trellis
ok
u know, why not ask ur teacher instead if the table will be given or nah
he wont respond
its 1 am
and the test is today
good luck 🫡
yo yk when to use a Z score formula like this ^^ when getting word problems?
like what keywords or phrases in a question will tell me to use this?
iirc thats when u want to normallize the distribution
so actually u can tell that sigma (Standard Deviation) is 12.6
and sample mean is 308
like the P(x < 170) I assume its not normalized, thats why it is changed and normalized to P(z < -1.84)
bro u have it here already, why u still ask 😭
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I'm currently struggling with a problem, how to solve for x, in 244=400/(1+350e^-0.6x)?
how would you solve 244=400/(1+350y) for y?
244 not 200
ouch
Ann
fixed that
yes, that is the equation
try to isolate y
so go and do that
isolate y or x?
y
multiply with y on both sides?
can you take over, gtg. thanks
Yeah but what happened to the 1 + 350y?
On the first step you had:
(1 + 350y)244 = 400
Then, you divided both sides by 244;
But somehow, the 1 disappeared from the left hand side.
Yes because the 244 is already outside the brackets.
Like, it is 244 times (1 + 350y) = 400
So if you want to get rid of 244 first, you have to leave the inside of the brackets alone.
Nice. What do you have now?
1+350y=400/244
subtracting 1 from both sides
Perfect.
if I divide again by 350 won't it give me a crazy decimal
Indeed, but here's the thing.
In the original question, there was e^(-0.6x) in place of y.
So, once you figure out what y is, you then substitute the e back into the equation.
That is, since you know that y = this,
That means that e^(-0.6x) = this
As well.
do I change the e to ln and put ln on the other side
Elaborate
-0.6x=ln(400/244-1)/350
Yep! But the 350 has to be inside the natural log too
Because you should have gotten that y = (400/244 - 1)/350
So when you replace y with e^(-0.6x), you take the natural log of the entire thing.
where would the 350 be visually then
Would you agree that: [ y=\frac{\frac{400}{244}-1}{350} ]
Redfern Station
yes
So when you replace $y$ with $e^{-0.6x}$, you get: [ e^{-0.6x}=\frac{\frac{400}{244}-1}{350} ] Agreed?
Redfern Station
yes
Then when you take the natural log of both sides, you get:
[ -0.6x=\ln\left(\frac{\frac{400}{244}-1}{350}\right) ]
Redfern Station
yes
then I divide with -0.06 again
thank you
Exactly.
thank you so much
My pleasure :)
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is what i did correct
and do i have to do trial and error from here?
oh it says atleast 3 successful hits..
my bad
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no the answer is 6
they cant be THAT merciless
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how to solve for theta
from either the unit circle, or the sin inverse but then from sin inverse your theta might not be in the range of
0 < theta < 2pi
i would recommend u to learn some standard values
Grab the unit circle, we know that sin corresponds to the y-value.
We want the angle(s) on the unit circle traversed clockwise from the point (0, 1) such that the y-value is -1. Hence, we get 3π/2 radians (or 270 degrees).
Don't forget the unit circle is 2π-periodic, you can add 2π radians and it'll end up at the same value. So our general solution is θ = 3π/2 + 2πk, where k is an integer
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when doing Q(sqrt2)(i) and Q(i)(sqrt2) am i doing {a+bi: a,b in Qsqrt(2)} in Q(sqrt2)(i), and {a+bsqrt2: a,b in Q(i)}? thanks
(which are both the same but im concerned about the order of operations)
Hello, would you mind latexing it or uploading a picture
It seems very confusing in text
ok
i wanna confirm if its true
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adjoining i gives a degree 2 extension, adjoining √2 also gives degree-2. They are independent over Q . Final field has basis 1 , i , √2 , i√2
Q(√2)(i) = Q(i)(√2)
Yes
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I'm kinda confused about this.. Is the answer just x=y and y=x?
Well they're the same yes
It's a special triangle riight?
45-45-90
What are the measurements for the legs for that type of triangle?
Well if that's what it's asking so yes
What's the instruction though?
Thanks
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what is x for 0 = sin(πx-1/4π) * cos(πx) with domain [0, 2]
perimeter?
domain
do you mean 2pi not just 2?
no i mean 2
it says 2
i thought 2π first too lol
if it was only sin(πx-1/4π) i could do it fine
just do the same thing as u did with sin term
if a*b = 0 then either a=0 or b=0 so set the cos = 0 as well
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which is better to use? im putting in an x and y value to see if its equals 1 i prefer the one with? but ai says the other one
second one is objectively way easier to understand
you need not put the $\stackrel{?}{=}$ ever single time
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Can someone please explain what the hell happened here?
It's d/dx X^x btw.
Yeah, I also figured out how to do that. But it gives me a different result than the one that my professor did, do you know what they did on my notebook?
Uhh yeah, I dunno what's going on in the notebook.
Rlly?
Idk how they solved it, it's not the same result that it gave me with the chain rule, I wanted to figure out how they solved it...
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What exactly is your question?
Because from what I can see they just used that $x^x=e^{x\ln{x}}$ and derivate that using the rule for exponentials
KonoEmllikDa
I see, can you explain me why x^x = x^xLnx?
Firstly it's $x^x=e^{x\ln{x}}$, this is because let's say you have a positive number $a$, since the ln is the inverse of the exponential you can write it as $e^{\ln{a}}$, so you can write $x^x=e^{\ln{x^x}}$. But the $\ln{x^x}=x\ln{x}$, so $x^x=e^{x\ln{x}}$
KonoEmllikDa
If you don't know the rules for logarithms it is a good exercise to try to finding them using the properties of the exponential
I want to understand this but I barely do it... Hahaha
Which logaritm rule is this one? 😓
Don't worry I think my english was really poor in that explanation. Which rule? The one where I write $a=e^{\ln{a}}$ or $\ln{x^x}=x\ln{x}$?
KonoEmllikDa
Like, this part.
Also, no worries. Your English is really good. 😅
I know that if we have e ^ x = y, ln(y) = x. But I can't understand how x^x = xlnx. 😭
It might not be the best proof but you can start with something like this: Let's say there is a $c$ such that $\ln{a^n}=c$, then $a^n=e^c$. Given this equation, can you find a way to find an expression for $\ln{a}$?
KonoEmllikDa
I can't find it, I'm pretty new to the logaritms tbh... Can you explain it please?
I need to go rn, I'll come back in a few hours and this post will be probably closed, but I'll try to open another one just to confirm one last thing, I'm finding at least 3 ways to derivate it, but rn I'm stuck at this part, I really appreciate your help and explanation.
I can give it to you right now, $a^n=e^c$ so $a=e^{c/n}$ therefore $\ln{a}=c/n$ or simply $\ln{a^n}=c=n\ln{a}$
KonoEmllikDa
I see, so this is the exact case with X^x, right?
But in this case we have a, e, c and n. On X^x only x and e.
Right, so X^x = xln x.
The c should still be there when you do the x^x, because by definition you should have that c=ln(x^x), but other than that that's correct
You just need to remember that ln(a^n)=n ln(a), if you can't remember you can imagine that n is a natural number, for example say that n=3, then ln(a^3)=ln(a * a * a)=ln(a)+ln(a)+ln(a)=3ln(a). So the formula for any n should be ln(a^n)=n ln(a)
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@gusty pasture Somehow I got it now, it's for the theory part, can you help me to solve it in 2 different ways?
The first one is by doing the x^x = e^xlnx thing + rule of potentials, the second one is via a formula.
Are you talking about this formula? I don't have much time, but I think I can help with it
Exactly, that formula, that's the second one.
Do you have any idea how to do it or do you want a hint?
Give me 1 minute, I'm making it on my notebook rn.
@gusty pasture Got it... somehow.
I'm pretty sure that I'm wrong. lol
Can you show your work so I can check it?
yeah that's it
Oh, so that's correct?
yes
Is there anything else I can do?
Like, move up some things to make it look better.
Or short it, idk.
The only thing you could do is the multiplication x*x^(x-1)=x^x
Other than that, if you have the formula it's pretty straightforward
If you want to do a little bit of extra work you could derive the formula
Wait, is there something I can do so it looks like this?
Because this is the result of me doing with the chain rule...
Sure, you just need to factorize x^x in the expression you got
WAIT
Yoo 😭 😭
I'll do by myself the other one, thank you so much dude, I really appreciate it. @gusty pasture
No problem, I got to go now so good luck with it
Have a great day, take care!
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My current problem wants me to figure out w_M_z [phi]
w is an alternative basis for y and z is an alternative basis for x
Here’s the photo again
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Do you have an english version of the question lol
M,N are natural numbers and X,Y are vector spaces with the following basis:
X= {x} and Y ={y}
W is an alternative basis for X and Z is the same thing for Y
Then there are a few transformations that belong to those
And for every linear map this statement is true:
Oh ok I didn’t see
I gave you a messed up translation with missing notation
So this is what you are working on?
Yes
Okay so do you know anything of what is going on for it so you can actually solve it?
Your first step would be to build the COB matrix for the domain\
Sorry I’m distracted
It’s 4am and I need to write everything on paper again after doing it because my prof forces everyone to submit handwritten notes in a mailbox
Sounds like dark magic
go ahead
Because it seemed mostly simple at first
There’s a matrix w_M_z
It either goes from z to w or from w to z
Depending on how the notation works
Because I don’t know
Welp
To build the matrix
Take each new basis vector
Write it using the old basis of 𝑋
Put those coordinate columns next to each other.
That’s it.
Since those are results of transformations I’ll have to apply them in the right order to get from w to z or vice versa
zedias
Look correct?
$$
{}{W}M{Z}[\Phi].
$$
zedias
@lapis token do you know what each of those are?
I’ve heard Domain and codomain before but I’m not too familiar with what they are
Mostly in relation to images etc
A linear map takes vectors from one vector space (the domain) and outputs vectors in another vector space (the codomain).
The domain is where inputs live.
The codomain is where outputs live.
$$
\text{The domain of } \Phi : X \to Y \text{ is } X.
$$
zedias
Alright
This means every vector you plug into Φ comes from 𝑋.
So we’re going from z to w
Yes
And ends up in Y
But the function phi is for x->y only isn’t it
Does that mean I need to use transformations to turn z into x, x into y and y into w?
To get from z to w?
I ALREADY KNEW THAT THO-
Nor did I know how
I feel like I might need a bit more help
is the bottom part your notes
Yes
That’s honestly annoying
That means I need to figure out the inverse transformation for z->x
It would’ve been much more convenient the other way around because I already had to suffer through that
oh yeah
sometimes it makes me wish i let someone else handle this
but not many people are at this level of math
especially beyond to the point of teaching it 😭
After that can I just write the transformations individually or do I need to multiply them
Wdym
means that its a lot of work to solve these questions
you are in a pretty complex math class
I started university one month ago tho
you must multiply them
I hate it already tbh
Its ok
IM NOT EVEN STUDYING MATH THO
Anyway fine
I’ll multiply them
I need to be up in 6 hours but eh
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Hello! Can I get some help on this question? I don't really know where to start.
Sure
Thank you
think about what f looks like when x is rational, versus x being irrational
because, for irrational x, f(x) = 0
When x is rational, x is not 0
But we don't know whether the number next to the one produced by x is rational or irrational so would the function not be continuous for rational values of x?
yes, but what about irrational values of x?
I'm not sure.
for rational x, its fairly easy to see that f(x) is discontinuous because f(x) would vary wildly. for irrational x, you know f(x) = 0
Would I have to use the delta-epsilon definition of continuity?
it says you dont need to provide a proof
Ok
That's literally the Dirichlet function in a way. If I am not mistaken it's continous for irrational numbers
Okay, thanks. Why would it be continuous for irrational numbers though?
remember what continuity is
Irrationals are dense in the reals.
A.k.a there are way way way way more irrationals and they can be very close to each other
okay
$\forall x_0 \in \mathbb{R}\setminus\mathbb{Q}, \lim_{x\to x_0} f(x) = f(x_0)$
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Is it that the limit as f(x) approaches some point exists and is approached from both sides?
Yea
if f(x) is 0 for every irrational x, its easy to see why the limits would exist, and thus why it would be continuous for irrational x
So I do get this part but how would I know whether the function is continuous at all of the irrational numbers?
Is it because there are more irrationals?
More or less yes
no, it is because the irrational are dense in the reals as he mentioned
Okay, I think I get it now. Thank you very much!
Rational numbers are countable
Irrationals are uncountable
a.k.a way more
U can also try to solve this thing 😂 this is how we can construct the Dirichlet function I don't recommend
Smh
if you think about a function f(x) = 1 for rational x, and f(x) = 0 for irrational x (dirichlet function), then it would be continous over Q and R\Q seperately, but not over R as a whole
Exactly
Yeah I'll pass on that
Well thank you guys for your help and have a nice day!
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mathematical induction here, I'm confused on where did the 2 go?, I know why we added it, so we can combine the fraction but not from that onward
1 + 2 = 3
could you explain more
3^(k+1) + 2 * 3^(k+1) = 3 * 3^(k+1)
even if they are being multiplied to something else we can add like terms?
,, \frac{3^{k+1}-1}{2} + \frac{2\cdot 3^{k+1}}{2} = \frac{3^{k+1}-1 + 2 \cdot 3^{k+1}}{2} = \frac{3 \cdot 3^{k+1}-1}{2}
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call $3^{k+1} = z$ temporarily
Ann
I know this is how it goes, I've seen the solution to it but I'm just lost
$\frac{z-1}{2} + \frac{2z}{2} = \frac{z-1+2z}{2} = \frac{3z-1}{2} = \frac{3\cdot 3^{k+1}-1}{2}$
Ann
does that now make more sense to you
OHH
yes thank you I get your version a lot easier
thank you for simplifying it in this way
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Uhhh halooo, just want to continue my question.
Two ships leave the same port at the same time. One ship sails on a course of 125° at 18 knots while the other sails on a course of 230° at 24 knots. Find after 3 hours (a) the distance between the ships and (b) the bearing from the first ship to the second.
Here's my progress, I already have all sides and the angles. I'm quite lost on to how to get the bearing.
the bearing is not the same as the interior triangle angle.
I think you can apply cosine rule
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This is the same question as yesterday, correct @final knot ?
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Yes, but like I got confused midway finding the bearing 
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f and g are inverses
dont give out answers without explanation
This is more about theory anyways
Do you remember the definition of surjection and injection of functions?
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Clarification in radius do I put the number being squared of just the number like 12 or 12*2
it's just 12
if you compare back to (x - h)^2 + (y - k)^2 = r^2
that means 144 is r^2
but since the radius can't be negative
r^2 = 144 implies r = 12
no worries!
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How to calculate
Cos-1 = 10/15
u want $\cos^{-1}(10/15)$?
Viͥђaͣnͫ
Yes
use calculator
idk
u can compare it with known values tho
like cos(45 degree) and cos(60 degree)
then use a linear approximation
Ok
And to find all sides
You need at least one angle and one side?
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yeah just not the 90 degree one
Also to work with sin, cos, tg you need a right triangle?
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Not necessarily
can apply in other triangles too!
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Annie Maqionde
so have you been taught surjective, injective and bijective functions?
Not really
do you know what the domain and the range of a function is?
Yup
Yes
k
Denote $f\circ g$ by $I$
Annie Maqionde
now have you been taught what is the inverse of a function?
Yes
so since $f\circ g$ is $I$, i.e. the identity function, by definition $g = f^{-1}$
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but this holds if and only if $f$ is bijective
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not really sure what to do
thought i could maybe use mvt but i don't think that would actually do anything
It follows from the epsilon delta definition of the limit I suppose
@crisp maple what have you done so far
It should be easily proven through the definition of a continuous function using delta-epsilon.
well, that and the idea of a strictly increasing function in an interval
well, delta-epsilon or whatever other proof method / argument you wanna invoke
uh lemme think about that then
Not sure if I'm getting at the right thing here
Not really sure how I'm supposed to get to what I want to prove
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can i help
sure
still not really sure what I'm supposed to do but its ok I'll go ask my prof at office hours later today thanks guys.
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Hello, can someone give me a hint on this
max (x + y)?
yes
yep, sorry, have no idea
ok, np
Are you sure you wrote it correctly? I'm not even sure there are integer solutions
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