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so think about what answer is is giving us
it must be giving us the answer from imagining the other triangle
the one that would be in quad ||4||
so how to rotate from quad ||4|| into quad ||2|| ?
I wanna say we would just adjust our angle by 180 deg
I'd want to agree
So if this is correct, my angle would be arctan(-2) + 180 deg
yes
so +pi
gotcha tysm
np
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Hello, i need to explore this numerical series(sorry i dont know how this called in english) for convergence. I dont even know how to make up a normal equation.
like this whole line is just one number of numerical series, so it goes like 5/7+(5*8)/(7*13)+(5*8*11)/(7*13*19) and etc
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Use the limit test
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let's say the n'th item of the sum is a_n . Notice how a_n = a_n-1 * (3n+2)/(6n+1)
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can anyone explain why the integration range changes?
from 0 to 1
becomes
from 1 to 82
you integrate in w.r.t to u
whats wrt?
with respect to
Yeag
but it's not necessary isnt' it?
and integrate from the range originally
but if u are still in terms of u then u have to change the integrating interval
so all u substitution works this way?
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how do i find a sequence with $\map f x = e^{x^3}$ as its exponential generating function
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Product to sum idenity.
Why does the order of multiplication matter in this?
It says it does in the image 
sin(a)cos(b)
cos(a)sin(b)

They are just written "differently" to help students
Like
sin(a)cos(b) can be written as cos(b)sin(a)
which is the same as
cos(a)sin(b) but with the a and b flipped
Not understanding
This is the same as saying
Ok actually
I thought I had a good example but nvm
Lol
the first two look kinda simliar to the double angle formula 
How are these formulas derived 
From the sum of angles formulas I'm pretty sure
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should I use this theorem ^ to solve this?
"Write the vector V as a linear combination"
no you don't need to know what a dot product even is for your problem.
OK
this is Ax = b
am I on the right track here?
yes but two notation issues exist
- the original linear combination should be written as $V = x_1U_1 + x_2U_2 + x_3U_3$ (you can use names other than $x_i$ but you CANNOT name the coefficients $U_i$ again and you CANNOT put the $U_i$, themselves vectors, into a column vector)
- your seven is uncrossed.
Ann (glomed)
your seven is uncrossed.
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hmmm, lemme ignore 2, but lemme think about 1 for a sec
oh OK
so it would be better to use [x y z] for the x column vector in Ax = b?
I agree
sure as long as you understand what's what
i.e. you're able to write "V is a linear combo of the U_i with yet unknown coefficients, but im giving the coefficients names to write equations with"
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how to find x?
wait does x + 20 + 40 = 180?
No
Try drawing a line, parallel to the existing lines, and going through where the angle x is
Yeah draw a line that is perpendicular to the two original parallel lines and that also passes through the angle x, such that two right angle triangles are created
do we know for sure they are right though?
Because the line will be perpendicular to the two parallel, the angle between them must be 90 degrees
leading to the two right triangles
now, here you can see that z + x + y = 180
and you can also see that z = 180 -90 -20
y = 180 -90 -40
so z = 70
y = 50
so 180 - 70-50 = 60
so x = 60
hope that helped @vast shale
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An automobile manufacturer is concerned about a fault in the braking mechanism of a particular model. The fault can, on rare occasions, cause a catastrophe at high speed. The distribution of the number of cars per year that will experience the catastrophe is a Poisson random variable with λt =3 What is the probability that at most 3 cars per year will experience a catastrophe?
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is this correct
, rotate
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How would this be solved?
hint: ||acceleration, deceleration, uniform motion||
huhhhhh
is there a specific law to describe whats happening
i think ik what the motio nis but i can't describe why it is
the train is accelerating yes?
as the train constantly changes its velocity the object will resist this change according to the law of intertia?
is it the training is moving to the left or it was moving right and came to a sudden halt?
the train's acceleration is to the left
doesnt matter which way its moving or its velocity
oh
ok
how would that be done
what would happen to the ball if the string were to suddenly break?
my colleague has just posted this question above
the question is incomplete since we do not know the frame of reference
what is frame of reference
just say the mass doesnt move since the choice of frame of reference can be the ball itself
tho if u consider it as the train itll go to the right
if u consider it as the earth itll go to the left
say u drop a ball inside a train what is its path
yes?
wdym yes
idk bro we're only yr10
lmao
😦
🤣
wouldnt it just go to the back of the train
I appreciate your help Jester, however you will need to explain this concept to us a little more eloquently as we do not possess the fundamental knowledge to fluently follow your explanation.
bro its fine :ksul
so basicly, if u are standing inside the train, and the train is constantly accelerating to the left
💀
then from ur perspective the ball will move like this
Ahhhh I understand
thats what the answers said but why
wouldnt it just drop to the floor
and roll
cos gravity
u mean like this?
that wouldn't make sense though
because the train is accelerating left
yeah its accelerating to the left
but if u are standing outside the train itll look like this
what why
u are outside the train
wouldnt it appear the same
look at this peppa pig animationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8YteuxWDwo
at tjhe start the trains moving so why does it just go up and down
tho u dont need to think outside the train, the answer is fine if ur inside the train
if there is no acceleration and the velocity is constant
because the train is moving constantly
does that mean the bal ljust goes up and down?
but if say the train was moving at like 50km/h
yeah
constantly
wouldnt the balls inertia cause it to be
going toward the back of the train
inertia only occurs when there is a change in motion
when it's constant the ball is moving with the train in the constant velocity
oh
do i need to use the parabola from the ball in the future?
Jester could you please explain this question to us?
and that
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Can someone help me with this arithmetic problem?
u can simplify the 6 and the 2
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is there a reason why 2 is used a divisor? can you use any prime divisor of 10 in this example?
yes
ty
For the last part of the solution, This means any multiple of 10 has 2 as a divisor and is therefore composite idk why, but this statement confuses. is it basically because 2 is a prime and any multiple of a prime number (prime number * x where x > 1) is composite?
a number that is a multiple of something is never prime
after all, the definition of a prime number p is a number that satisfies n |\ p for all 1 < n < p
2 happens to be a prime but that's not really the main point here
yeah i want to make sure i understand this correctly
like i know even numbers are composite except 2, but i want to understand this properly
"this means any multiple of 10 has 2 as a divisor and is therefore composite" basically means 10n = 2 times something
which is not the definition of a prime
ok
can't you multiple a number by 1 and it would be a multiple? isn't 2 a multiple of 2?
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how would I solve for these?
dot product is involved somehow?
and with this column vector am I allowed to move v1 to the top?
you need to know how elemantry row transformations behave with determinants
elementary means one operation away from identity matrix, yeah?
umm... noo.. (as in not a good working definition)
I mean in a sense yes
But not very helpful here
Oh, how would you define it in this context?
well, there are 3 types of elementary row operations
so if the determinant of the 4x4 matrix is -5
I need to do some reverse engineering to get back to the 4x4 matrix somehow
and then I believe they are just asking for the first column of the original 4x4 matrix, with scalar of 3 on the first entry, if I understand correctly
so if my understanding is correct here, I would be stuck on this part, and knowing how to proceed
you need to know how determinant interacts with these
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can someone help to explain what each option means? I need help with understanding
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@sleek flame Do you understand what multiplying a matrix by a vector represents?
So I know what sort of explanation you might find more intuitive.
You've selected the correct answer but perhaps it might not be useful to say something along the lines of "This can only happen when A is non-invertible or singular or has liearly-dependent columns, or has a null space that isn't only 0, and A's shape tell us none of that."
If you understand what a linear transformation does then it's a bit more intuitive. Otherwise it just sounds like a bunch of jargon.
can we go through the options one by one
I got my answer, cause it sounds right to me, but I don't exactly understand the other options
Well, let's start at the beginning. Do you know aht it means for there to be non-trivial solutions?
I suppose not? If x is the zero vector, then Ax = 0 is always true. The question is whether or not there are vectors x that are not the zero vector that satisfy out equation.
But I have to go back to the original question of whether or not you understand what a linear transformation or what it looks like. Cause if we go through what each of those "means" I'm not sure you will gain much understanding.
I know that linear dependent is non trivial solutions, linear independent is trivial solutions and they are both consistent
not consistent means no solution
if the matrix can be transformed then its consistent
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how do you exactly take out the x's from the trig
I can really only think of making sinx/cosx = sqrt3
and since that makes tanx = sqrt3
does tan move to the other side as tan^-1?
Wdym?
When u do tan^-1 on both sides u cancel out the LHS one
Not multiply, apply the function
yea I know you cancel them out but I am so used to "carrying it"
I don't think I have done thst
yea because were taught differently
And tan^-1(sqrt3) is easy
yea but I need 2 points still
I guess for the 2nd one u set sqrt3 cos x = -sin x
-sinx?
Yeah
:V
Hmm..Well idk but perhaps u can 2npi
ehhh plus minus
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Aren't almost all trig functions symmetrical
sqrt3 kinda doesn't make it symetrical anymore
...
can someone help me with dilations geometry #1115514300598067271
anyways were not trying to find those points
Yes
you can't do this you know
U can't advertise bruh
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okay
why did you ping them
were getting off point
so folow your guys guide
would the answer be pi/3 and 4pi/3?
Yeah ig
U got this by add npi right
And set n=1
whats n in this senario
but theres no n in there?
actually nvm
I'll just work with these numbers for now
Sorry I am not very good at trig...still improving yk
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can i say that this is not possible as 1295 multiplied by some number will always result in a number with ending digits 0 or 5
where as (2^l -2^k)(2^l + 2^k) will always result in numbers with ending digits as 2, 4 or 6
hence it is not possible for (36a + b)(a + 36b) to be a power of 2
sorry for the bad handwriting.
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must they be integers?
yes
What about (2^5 - 2^3)(2^5 + 2^3)
but k and l must be greater than 5
as minimum value of (a, b) can be (1, 1)
so 2^k = 37 = 2^l
How about (2^25 - 2^23)(2^25 + 2^23)
because I just multiplied by 2^20
yuppp makes sense
does that answer your question?
it doesn't
want to prove this
what happened between the second and fourth lines of the notebook
i replaced value of 72ab
72ab = 4^l - 1296b^2 - a^2
I see
When I saw the question, I thought about trying to prove some things about a and b
because every factor of a power of 2 is a power of 2
a and b must be even right
How did you get from the first step to the second
I used the value of 2^k + 2^l from this (line number 9 of notebook)
I am just complicating things sorry
The way I found that a and b were even was like this: for the sake of contradiction, assume a(or b, without loss of generality) is odd. Then a + 36b is odd and more than 1 since b is positive so 36b is even and at least 36. So a + 36b is odd and larger than 1, so isn’t a power of 2. Contradiction, so a and b are even
And using a similar line of reasoning another stronger property about a and b can be derived
But then I didn’t know how to go on from there, so maybe this combined with your method could work
i did it using b = 2^k - 36a. This shows that b is even as an (even - even = even)
You can reduce that modulo another number to get something else
i got
(-1)^l ≡ a (mod 3)
(-1)^k ≡ b (mod 3)
oh since a and b are even
a and be must be of the form (3m + 1) and (3n + 1)
l and k must be even
I meant for you to notice that 36 is divisible by 4 and 2^k = 36a + b is larger than 37
you mean to say that b should be of form 4m
4n
Could you try putting these expressions for a and b into the formulas you got
in this one right?
You could also try in this one
See if you can find any parity things you couldn’t do the first time
i got this
and lets say i keep on repeating this process
so the RHS will reach 2^0 at some point
and at LHS we will have some 36x + y
so 36x + y = 1. This is not possible
as the minimum value of 36x + y = 37
yes i can but this would be my first time writing a proof clearly
so please correct if there would be any mistakes in it
Looks ok to me
Thanks for you help ^^
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Quick question, for part c, why is Y south? Isn’t south where I put “w”
I thought y would be considered west of the lighthouse
L is the lighthouse and you’re traveling to B. Which is south compared to L.
The green diagram at the start of the example shows dotted lines pointing to north. @dusty phoenix
Oh
But I’m still confused, even if I’m trvalleinf to B, wouldn’t y be west of L
OHHHH I got it
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I'm kinda lost. When doing this basic DE, I got a different result from that in the answer sheet, and I'm unsure as to whether I made a mistake. My answer began to differ from the answer sheet's when I integrated -cos(2x)/2, which I evaluated as -cos(x)sin(x)/2, instead of -sin(2x)/4. I was thinking that they're equivalent (or are they?), but they led to a difference in answers...
what did I overlook?
after getting -sin(x)cos(x)/2, when integrating again, I got cos^2(x)/4
basic differential equations
I’m still in 10th
Na that’s the same thing
thought so too, but I got a different constant for the last term, which made me go "ok wtf"

(constant I got was 3/4)
Assuming you made no mistake they're the same
But if you're getting different final answers then you messed up somewhere
There's only one solution to the DE with those parameters
yeah, probably messed up somewhere in the computations ig...
hm.
gonna have to type everything out 💀 here I go
$y = \iiint 2 + \sin 2x \dd x^3$
NEONPerseus

I see no error
$y' = x^2 - \frac{\cos x \sin x}{2} +2.5x$, so c = -6 (same as answer aside from the trig)
then
Wait lol I just looked at the solutions and said it had no error thinking they were you’re answers
Kiameimon | Welt Rene (glomed)
sin2x = 2sinxcosx
I mean you prolly just went wrong somewhere in calculations
,calc 7/2
Result:
3.5
how'd you get 2.5x
.........................
What you get when you integrated -cossin/2
cos^2 x/4
ah right
but even then tho...
that term gets zeroed out
also missing the constant
when we set it = 0
so it isn't the cause
$y = \int x^2 - \frac{\cos x \sin x}{2} +3.5x - 6$
Kiameimon | Welt Rene (glomed)
I mean it would help to see your solution if possible
gimme a moment to typeset everything out 

this is fine, you're practically done at this point, just use sin2x = 2sinxcosx before integrating
$y'' = \int 2 + \sin 2x dx = 2x - \frac{\cos 2x}{2} + c$, evaluate to get c = 3.5
Kiameimon | Welt Rene (glomed)
but why isn't it the same?
like, they're both equal, yet integrating them gives different results?
wdym?
like why wasn
complete this integration first
why wasn't the integral of sinx cos x /2 = sin(2x)/4
what?
integrating again gives this $x^2 - \frac{\cos x \sin x}{2} +3.5x$, which constant evaluates to -6
Kiameimon | Welt Rene (glomed)
integrate this
i mean complete that integration
x^2 integrates to x^3 / 3
and then integrating this gives me $\frac{x^3}{3} + \frac{cos^2 x}{4} + \frac{7x^2}{4} -6x$
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write -sinxcosx/2 as -sin2x/4 integrating that gives +cos2x/8
you don't get a cos^2
you get a cos(2x)
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but it's the same as cos^2 x/4 I thought... what I did was factorise out -1/2 and then integrate cos(x)sin(x) as u usually would
cos(2x) is the same as cos^2x / 4?? what are you smoking
as in
cos(2x) = cos^2x - sin^2 x isn't it
I'm saying that
since -cos(x)sin(x)/2 = -sin(2x)/4, their integrals should be the same
or so I thought
well
Cos no
yea so integrate -sin(2x)/4
what does that integrate to?
$\int sin(ax)dx = -\cfrac{cosax}{a}+c$
I know that it integrates to cos(2x)/8
is that the formula?
They do equal the same thing
pikachupikachu
cos^2(x)/4
yea so show how you integrated it
,w expand cos^2(x)/4 - cos(2x)/8
its almost as if ... theyre the same up to a constant
GAH SNOW
using sub for cosxsinx is wild
Your manners of talking like this makes me feel so...
not in a negative way tho
it's unique to say the least 
geez, so it IS the same...
Yea
💀
anyway
But how did you get your final answer wrong
the thing is I didn't
it just differed by a constant
which is 1/8
and when my constant is 3/4
it adds up to give the answer
you should see all the forms of the secant integral
7.8
NO
NO
NO
JUST
NO
Ima stop you RIGHT THERE
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The red is a function
Which out of the blue and green is the correct derivative of that function?
Blue
i would say blue and green are the same line
Domain
Ah
They're both fine as long as you restrict the domain
So the blue curve would be for all x > 0
ah
The green one needs no domain restriction, but it's also a pain in the ass looking equation
It's like how the derivative of ln(x) is 1/x for all x > 0, but the derivative of ln|x| is 1/x for all x in its domain
The green one, if you simplify it fully, becomes the blue curve
Both are fine as long as you communicate domain
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For the proof of the first law of Kepler, the geometric way uses the following: \begin{align*} a &\sim \frac{1}{r^2} \ a &= \frac{k}{r^2} \ \frac{v}{t} &= \frac{k}{r^2} \ v &\approx k \cdot \frac{\Delta t}{area \ swept \ out \ in \ \Delta t}\end{align*}
Apparently, they arrive at v by eliminating r^2.
How can they get that expression from t/r^2 though?
The first law is proving that the paths of the planets are elliptical with the sun at one of the focii right
Yes
This is just one part of the proof, it shouldn't have to do with the actual law yet though
It uses the second and third laws of Kepler
No, I've proven the second and third laws, I'm proving the first now.
The proof in the StackExchange post I sent uses
\begin{align*} a &\sim \frac{1}{r^2} \ a &= \frac{k}{r^2} \ \frac{v}{t} &= \frac{k}{r^2} \ v &\approx k \cdot \frac{\Delta t}{area \ swept \ out \ in \ \Delta t}\end{align*}
but how did they arrive at the last expression?
I don't know how valid what they did is
It seems to be that they determined the areal velocity depends on v by virtue of dimensions
You can arrive at that expression yourself with the second law I think
$\dv{A}{t} = \frac{L}{2m}$
NEONPerseus
Yep
the distance planets traverse in an infinitesimal of time is constant, thus they travel traverse same distances in same times
But if they got their last expression from this, then isn't what they've done before unnecessary? Starting with the inverse square law, breaking a into v/t, ...
Hm, they have that $v = k \cdot \frac{t}{r^2}$, the third law of Kepler says that $T^2 \sim r^3$
If they used the third law of Kepler, they would arrive at v \approx k, but they arrived at k * dt/dA
Oh.. They used that area \approx k * r^2
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You might try #groups-rings-fields
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How do I know if a matrix has an orthonormal set. (Eigenvalues, eigenvectors and characteristic polynomial)
I know if the matrix is real and symmetrix you have a solution
But for example this matrix also has an orthonormal set:
0 j
j 0
the set for eigenvaleu j is {1/sqrt(2), 1/sqrt(2)}
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Or half of the triangle BAD using this length
If the cente of the base is F, draw triangle FAD
Might be easier than BAD
Seems correct
what doi do after
What angle did you find
=45.6
ohk
(the pyramid is symmetrical)
its the same
Ye
Just multiple the angle you got by 2
You can approximate to 90 degrees if approximation is required
91*
so thats the ans
Approximately, yes
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In how many different ways can 20 squares of the puzzle grid of 100 unit squares be colored so that only 2 squares are colored in each row and column?
this is probably the hardest permutation problem i've ever encountered
i don't even have a clue on how to begin solving this
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i know how to begin, there's 10! ways to pick 10 squares, so each row and column has 1 sqaure
but I can't continue
in the example they made 5 rectangles
i don't know if that's necessary though
nah that can't be important
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didn't someone already help you?
no
yes they did
i was stuck
you just didnt listen to what they said
what have you tried
i was tryinh to re arrangle the formula
what formula
yh but
52.7=1/2(xy) x 8.426
?
how should i do the next one?
@winged fossil
?
ok
i am confused
@winged fossil
?
oh
so
u dont put b to get 4.213
thxxx
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What is question A asking? I don’t understand it
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What the heck is the second number of degrees listed there?
39 degrees 53 degrees? Is it supposed to be 39.53 or what?
I suspect that’s in minutes
Yes, probably a typo.
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are you asking what $\frac{17}{8} \div 3$ is?
maximo
i think its (1 7/8 )/3
it is
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I derivate with L'Hopital and I got -e^x/1-e^x
if you just plug in $\infty$ you get a $\frac{\infty}{\infty}$ case, so have you tried using L'Hopital?
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actually nvm, e^x would just repeat forever
I derivate with L'Hopital and I got -e^x/1-e^x
Oh, can I?
oh fair
yes
first and formost this also has an indeterminate form
so you could apply lhopital again
oooh
as for the non lhopital way, you can factor e^x from the top and bottom
-e^x/-e^x = e^x/e^x, I see
you'll get $\frac{1+e^{-x}}{xe^{-x} - 1}$
maximo
the limit of this as x goes to infinity should (hopefulyl) be clear
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What is part A exactly asking?
I don’t understand it
you can use trigonometry to find the length of AC
But what does it mean when I have to find the expression?
it means that you leave it as a fraction in simple terms
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I think it means your answer should be formed by a messy combination of sin cos tan, but not in form of decimal number returned by your calculator.
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is my answer correct?
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how do we know 1 ∈ P? have you proved that this must hold in any ordered field?
they have earlier
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oh sorry for not including that
but i proved that earlier
because someone in my class with a similiar solution asked the prof if his answer was correct for this question and the prof replied with "if you think something is wrong then something IS wrong". So idk if my proof is correct
this was my classmates solution
so you have proved that 1 is positive in any ordered field
ok
yeah idk i cant see a way to like, improve that in any way
i personally would see this as a specific case of a more general phenomenon, namely that fields of positive characteristic (i.e. ones where you can add some finite number of copies of 1 and get 0) are never ordered
by an argument similar to what you did
in an ordered field 1 must be positive, thus so must be 1+1, and 1+1+1, and so on, but then you hit zero and the order breaks down.
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an airplane is flying at an airspeed of 345km/h on a heading of 040 degrees. The wind is blown at 18km at a bearing 087 degrees. Determine the ground velocity of the airplane and include a diagram in your solution.
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need help to do this activity on desmos
What is question 3?
Also I don't really understand what u wanna do on desmos
Bruh
Pls
K
Wait for someone
Oh this one
Q4 is a calculation question. Just use trig + herons formula
Huh? U haven't been taught that?
nope
$A = \sqrt{s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)}$
Feynmann
i think the angle can be taken out by the desmos
It should show u when u click on the angle
so in the 4a i need to find the angle of abc and cda
As for area draw a perpendicular from opposite vertices to the disgonals
Yeah
ok so i get it how to do 4a now
for the 4a i got the angle is this the correct way?
oh we need to do the quadrilateral area and angle on geobra not desmos my mistake sorry
It's okay
is this correct for 4a)
Pretty sure yeah
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the zero vector is present, so that axiom works
scalar multiplication also works
so its gotta be the addition axiom
but im not sure how to show that
or how to come up with a set of values that disprove it
<2,0,1> & <-4,2,2>
resultant of addition gives <-2,2,3>
which does not comply
so i guess thats it?
I just chose random vectors that i noticed fit though
yeah sure
what is the "natural" defn of scaling on R^n with complex scalars tho
umm
Idk 💀
exactly me neither
well
ima ignore that one
im tryna prove all these mfs now
1 was aight but a reliased
well i went from v = v to
v + 0 = v + 0v
and i was like ooh 0 = 0v
but what like axiom allows me to infer like
v + a = v + b implies a = b
and 2 i got no idea
The axiom that says vector spaces are groups under addition
Or one of the specific axioms that falls under that
Yeah ofc
wait waht
r u sure
like if im proving shit i mean
cus theres no axiom that seems to imply
stuck on number 2
i tried to like seperate
ill call lambda n cus easier to type
n0 = n0 + 0
but that does nothing
n0 + (-0)
how so?
allow yourself to multiply both sides by λ
allow yourself to recognize that subtracting a vector from itself gives 0
do you have a list of axioms handy
ok so then have you already proved that -u = (-1)u and (-λ)u = -(λu)
hm yueah
agree
agree
uhh
-v is just (-1)v
so yeah disagree
wait
i meant to type agree
yes
agree
formally these are different things
despite them being provably equal
im using the theorem that -u = (-1)u and axiom #9 and commutativity of field multiplication and that same theorem again
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Related rates question. Answer to a is 0.833rot/s. Please help I don’t understand this at all, how do you solve this?
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,calc 90*(1000/3600)/(2pi30)
Result:
0.13262911924325
Hmm.. I get something different
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