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thick oracle
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if B has a minima at 1

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then

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it's derivative

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D

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has to have a zero at 1

uneven schooner
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hm so either B = F and D = f, or B = f and D = f'

thick oracle
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yeah

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and we've established above that C is the derivative of D

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so

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B , D, C

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i mean this has to be it

uneven schooner
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well C is the derivative of D (im not gonna fact check that), and D is the derivative of B, so...............

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(mb)

thick oracle
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yeah

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i mean A doesnt fit with anything

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it cant be the dericvative of anything

uneven schooner
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C->D->B right?(in order of F, f, f')

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sorry

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B,D,C

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im sorry

thick oracle
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cuz A has a zero at 2

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so its primitive should have an extrema at 2

uneven schooner
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im a bit confused here so if i were you i'd wait for another helper but i feel b,d,c is correct

thick oracle
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which is only true for D

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but D has a positive slope

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so A should have been in the positive quadrant

thick oracle
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yeah also this is an easy question the only reason i am bringing this up is because someone got a different answer than me

broken wolf
thick oracle
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yeah

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so graph only graph C can be D's derivative

broken wolf
thick oracle
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because

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C is the only graph that is positive until 1-2 and decreases afterwards

broken wolf
tame mortar
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I agree

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or B A and C

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it's not exactly clear on the image if A and C cross the x axis

obtuse pebbleBOT
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short crescent
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<@&268886789983436800> spam

unreal musk
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That's very kind of you wg

short crescent
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๐Ÿ’€

unreal musk
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Lmfao kekPointLaugh

obtuse pebbleBOT
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@thick oracle Has your question been resolved?

torn flower
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if F = B
f=C
f' = D

since B cant be anyone's derivative cuz B is 0 at 0 and noone's slope is 0 at 0

B is either F or unrelated
if its unrelated, the only possible way we can arrange them is
ACD or DCA
left to right in the order F,f,f'

none of them make sense cuz A and C are negatives of each other, if A is f(x) then C is -f(x)

the only option left is BCD

solar stump
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The diagrams show the graph of a function f, its derivative f', an antiderivative F of f and another fourth graph. Assign a graph to each of the functions f, f' and F and explain your reasoning.
Not really in a mood to assist, sorry, but I thought a translation might better help other helpers here thumbsupanimegirl

tame mortar
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ok no this is correct symply because D crosses the x axis at 1 (min of B) and A crosses at 2

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you can close dw

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toxic harbor
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@thick oracle

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tired quest
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tired quest
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im just confused

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f''(x)=0

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so this thing should equal C

hollow ocean
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!nosols, I believe?

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open kayak
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mb, instinct

ember frost
tired quest
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whats the integral of 0

ember frost
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think for a minute then tell me

tired quest
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is it 0

ember frost
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why do you think it's 0?

tired quest
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i added one to the power

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so its 0*x^1

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and thats all timesed by 1

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so 0 times anything is 0

ember frost
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okay that's one way to think about it

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yes the integral of 0 is 0

ember frost
tired quest
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yes its 0

ember frost
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there we go

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toxic harbor
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Ik this is the answer but is there a way to be more accurate? I remember using a way but I forgot it

toxic harbor
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please @ me

hollow ocean
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more accurate in what sense?

graceful crescent
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@toxic harbor

toxic harbor
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in drawing it

hollow ocean
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plot some points using the transformed function.

graceful crescent
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oh uh no not really

toxic harbor
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yes thats its plotting the points

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i forgot how

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can you remind me

graceful crescent
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unless u use desmos and copy it exactly

hollow ocean
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pick some values of x and compute the corresponding values of y.

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then join them in the expected shape.

toxic harbor
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what is compute

hollow ocean
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calculate.

toxic harbor
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so lets say i used 2 i got 8 where does y go?

hollow ocean
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the transformed function.

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also, if you used x = 2, then y = x^3 = 2^3 = 8, so x = 2 leads to y = 8 in the original function.

toxic harbor
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ohh now i see where my mistake is lmao

hollow ocean
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but you want the transformed function, so.

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but also, note that the question asked you to sketch the transformed function.

toxic harbor
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ok now it makes lots of sense

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thank you

hollow ocean
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when a sketch is involved you have some leeway anyway.

toxic harbor
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whats leeway

hollow ocean
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some wiggle room.

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is there a language barrier here?

toxic harbor
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so it dont have to be perfect?

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well no

hollow ocean
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a sketch by definition need not be perfect.

toxic harbor
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but some words ive never heard of

hollow ocean
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if you are told to graph the transformed function then you should be more accurate, but you're not expected to be perfect anyway.

toxic harbor
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and the transformative one does it have to be the same size?

hollow ocean
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you're not compressing or stretching it, so...

toxic harbor
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i mean like in length

hollow ocean
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I know.

toxic harbor
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what if it was 1 box smaller

hollow ocean
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then it depends on whether your examiner is in a good mood.

toxic harbor
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thank you

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for your help Chiaki

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it is very much appreciated

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๐Ÿ˜Š

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have a great day

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vale orchid
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Let triangle ABC be isosceles at B. The line BH is the angle bisector of angle B.
Let K and M be the feet of the perpendiculars drawn from H to BC and BA, respectively.

a) Prove that triangles BKH and BMH are congruent.

b) Prove that BH is perpendicular to CA. From that, prove that
BH < \frac{BC + BA}{2}.

c) Let E be a point on segment BH (with E \ne B, E \ne H, and E not on line KM).
Construct point I such that E is the midpoint of segment MI.
Prove that IK \parallel BH.

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vale orchid
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1

uneven schooner
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have you drawn a diagram?

vale orchid
uneven schooner
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If you have, may I ask you to upload it?

vale orchid
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Here ya go

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Currently on c problem

uneven schooner
vale orchid
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ive proven that bh is perpendicular to mk, now i have to do the same with ik

uneven schooner
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Hm I have a hint which may or may not work

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In a right angled triangle, what are the properties of the median to the hypotenuse?

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observe in right angled MKI

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that ME = EI

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so EK is a median

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since its to the hypotenuse, do you know the propety that EK = ME = EI?

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i feel if you could somehow show ME = EK, you're done

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@vale orchid is this clear? this may not work, take my words with a pinch of salt

vale orchid
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honestly i dont feel like thatd work

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it has smth to do with angles obviously

uneven schooner
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Well try atleast.

vale orchid
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alrighty

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if i were to prove that me equals ek whats next

uneven schooner
uneven schooner
vale orchid
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yea the 2 small triangles on the top right

uneven schooner
vale orchid
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do those triangles have anything to do with the angle that were focusing on

uneven schooner
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as I've explained before, since ME = EI, you'll have ME = EK = IE, and from there you can deduce MKI is right angled at K

vale orchid
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ill try with what i have for now including these hints

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lament ledge
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this is gonna sound idiotic of me but (this is my teachers digital writing)

is that a "-2" or "- 2" for question 1

lament ledge
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im assuming the 3 is also "-3" and not "- 3" in question 1

digital hound
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negative three times (x minus two)

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the kerning is shitty but generally you assume its a minus unless its completely obvious

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does this answer your question?

lament ledge
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yes

digital hound
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ok cool

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oh also

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it appears that everything will be some combination of

  • a number
  • (x plus something)
  • (x minus something)
  • (something plus x)
  • (something minus x)

(not all of those at once)

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so if youre not sure just check which one its closest to

lament ledge
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alright

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!close

hollow ocean
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it's .close.

lament ledge
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sorry i just havent been here for a few months

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serene jackal
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serene jackal
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Anyone?

azure dagger
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!status

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azure dagger
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and is the point to just expand it

serene jackal
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?

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Can u solve?

azure dagger
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unfortunately no, i can help YOU try to solve it but i need effort from your end

serene jackal
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What effort?

hidden compass
azure dagger
serene jackal
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Factorissation

hidden compass
hidden compass
serene jackal
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Idk

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Not yet understood

azure dagger
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where have you gotten this question from

serene jackal
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From my book

azure dagger
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is this schoolwork, where you've done other questions that are similar to this one

serene jackal
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In copies...This is my first question so far

azure dagger
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you've studied this at school, correct?

serene jackal
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Naa its holiday hw

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Can u help?

azure dagger
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do you know how to multiply brackets in algebra

serene jackal
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yup

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If u dont mind can u just send me photo?

azure dagger
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alright, so can you start with that and open the brackets

hidden compass
serene jackal
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ok

azure dagger
hidden compass
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!nosols

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azure dagger
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we can walk you through it if you want

hidden compass
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!noans

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serene jackal
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Ok

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steep pike
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how do I do this

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steep pike
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my intuition is its not countably infinite

daring ravine
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y?

dusk widget
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I believe your intuition is correct catthink

steep pike
dusk widget
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hm, I don't want to give away too much, but a good idea might be to associate each subset of N to a sequence in S

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that way, you construct an injection from P(N) to S, and since P(N) is uncountable, so is S

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the real work comes from coming up with a sequence for A \subseteq N, but it shouldn't be too bad holoapple

steep pike
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Whats P(N) here

dusk widget
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the power set of N, which has cardinality |R|, i.e. uncountable

steep pike
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okay okay

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still a bit lost

dusk widget
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the power set of N is just the set of all subsets of N

steep pike
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how would I form an injection from S to power set of \mathbb{N}

dusk widget
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and you've got the injection the wrong way around

steep pike
dusk widget
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you want to inject P(N) into S, because that means S will have equal or greater cardinality than P(N)

zenith raft
dusk widget
dusk widget
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that'll give you an injection automatically (via A \mapsto q_A)

steep pike
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but howww can I complete the set of S in that case

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bc like its the set of ALL rational sequences

dusk widget
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S is a subset of the set of rational sequences, not the rational sequences themselves holoapple

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I also don't quite understand what you mean by "completing" S pikathink

steep pike
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oh wait yeah am being dumb

steep pike
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if Im injecting P(N) to S it doesnt need to be surjective

dusk widget
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a very classical example of a sequence in S is q_n = 1/n, and I suggest you think about using that sequence for this problem catthink

dusk widget
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we aren't showing these two sets have the same cardinality

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just that one has a cardinality equal to or greater than the other

steep pike
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I think I'm beginning to understand

dusk widget
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an injection from the smaller set into the bigger one is sufficient

upbeat plinth
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@steep pike @dusk widget consider a diagonal argument to prove its uncountable

upbeat plinth
steep pike
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@dusk widget so with the power set of N

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can my injection be

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1/n * sample mean of power set

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not power set but for each element in power set

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bc its still rational and tends towards 0

dusk widget
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err, I don't know anything about sample means, sorry MiniheraNervous1
I had a what I think is simpler idea kHehe

upbeat plinth
# steep pike not sure what this means sry

the method is to assume there exists an enumeration, ie a bijection N->S, then use the enumeration to construct an element of S that does not appear in the enumeration, giving a contradiction

steep pike
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sum / cardinality

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uhh like max(element in power set) * 1/n

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or even min

dusk widget
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that sounds like you're gonna be mapping many subsets to 0, since there are infinitely many infinite subsets of N pikathink

dusk widget
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that's not an injection

steep pike
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oh wait yeah

dusk widget
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you're mapping a bajillion things to one :p

thorny fiber
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i have been directed here

dusk widget
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a more natural idea would be to define a sequence that depends on the subset itself

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like q_n = something for n in A, and q_n = smth else for n not in A

prisma crane
steep pike
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steep pike
prisma crane
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ohh

thorny fiber
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if it hasnt been suggested already, a diagonal argument similar to cantor's diagonalization argument to show R is uncountable is likely helpful

upbeat plinth
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i did above

thorny fiber
upbeat plinth
# steep pike yeah idk how to do ts

Cantor's diagonal argument (among various similar names) is a mathematical proof that there are infinite sets which cannot be put into one-to-one correspondence with the infinite set of natural numbers โ€“ informally, that there are sets which in some sense contain more elements than there are positive integers. Such sets are now called uncount...

steep pike
dusk widget
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I'm kinda unsure now because Roketto thinks the diagonalization argument is easier, and I don't want to confuse you by giving you another independent approach giggle

dusk widget
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you're mapping elements of the power set to sequences of S

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that is the injection I initially wanted

thorny fiber
# steep pike yeah idk how to do ts

the core of Cantor's diagonal argument is:

  1. assume the reals (let's say in the interval (0, 1), for simplicity) are countable
  2. list all of them in decimal format (use zeros if the number terminates) out by enumerating them
  3. construct a real number in (0, 1) by choosing the diagonal digits of the sequence
  4. this real isn't in the list, which is a contradiction
upbeat plinth
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note that in the link cantor is specifically proving uncountability of T=set of sequences of 0s and 1s, but the method can be adapted to our set S

dusk widget
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I honestly might bow out of this channel for the time being, and let others give the diagonalization approachpikathink

thorny fiber
dusk widget
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I'll ping you elsewhere and explain my idea afterwards, perhaps MiniheraBow

thorny fiber
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try to see if you can adapt this to S:?

steep pike
dusk widget
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q_n has to be a rational sequence lying in S, not a subset of N

steep pike
dusk widget
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lemme ping you in a different channel later MenheraSalute1

thorny fiber
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i am gone, i was just told to check this channel by someone KEK

steep pike
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is the argument that

upbeat plinth
# steep pike so like remind me

ill repeat the method

the method is to assume there exists an enumeration, ie a bijection N->S, then use the enumeration to construct an element of S that does not appear in the enumeration, giving a contradiction

steep pike
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the thing formed by the diagonals is a new element

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therefore uncountably infinite

upbeat plinth
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yes the diagonal forms an element that does not appear in the enumeration, giving a contradiction

steep pike
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okay okay got it

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so applying this to the question

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do I like assume countable and say S is the set of S_i for i in naturals

upbeat plinth
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we assume countable ie there exists a bijection N->S (we call it enumeration)

steep pike
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then define new sequence S' st S'_j = S_i(j)

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argue that this is none of the S_i s

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?

upbeat plinth
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no, you should review how cantor picked the diagonal

steep pike
upbeat plinth
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see the details of how s is constructed above

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basically we make each diagonal entry different from its original value

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this is the key to constructing a sequence outside the enumeration

steep pike
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but in this case how do I make the diagonal entries diff bc we're looking at the entire rationals

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do I just to

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like 1/ diagonal entry or smth

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I cant guarantee that this is different in every case

upbeat plinth
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remember our new sequence must be in S, ie rational entries and converges to 0

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how do we change the diagonal entries to keep these properties?

steep pike
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square it maybe?

upbeat plinth
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but we also need them to be different from the original values

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doesnt work if some are 1s

steep pike
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can I do square then define differently for 1

upbeat plinth
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what would you do for 1?

steep pike
upbeat plinth
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it mostly works except if the j=1 term is 1

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but u can go a lot simpler

steep pike
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I fear I cant see the simple answer

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0?

upbeat plinth
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ya

steep pike
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oh im dumb

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alr thankssss

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upbeat plinth
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yw!

dusk widget
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@steep pike ah, here was my idea: fix a subset $A \subseteq \N$ and consider the sequence given by $q_{n, A} = \frac{1}{n}$ for $n \in A$ and $q_{n, A} = 0$ for $n \notin A$. each such sequence is clearly in $S$, and two subsets $A, B \subseteq \N$ generate the same sequence if and only if they are equal: $A = B$. then the map $\iota: P(\N) \to S$ given by $\iota(A) = q_{n, A}$ is an injection, hence $|P(N)| \leq |S|$, and we deduce that $S$ is uncountable.

warm shaleBOT
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higher!

dusk widget
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I'm glad you managed to get the problem done via diagonalization though c:

steep pike
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analysis enjoyers are next level

dusk widget
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I am no analysis enjoyer, I fear kLaugh

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you can find many instances of me hating the subject hehe

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upbeat plinth
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@steep pike u need a different formula. for example if the diagonal is all 2s then the new entries dont converge to 0

steep pike
steep pike
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I feel like this still doesnt guarantee convergence

upbeat plinth
steep pike
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yeahhh tricky

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hmm

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i^i if less than 1, i^-i if more than 1?

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def converges to 0

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and still rational

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@upbeat plinth

obtuse pebbleBOT
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@steep pike Has your question been resolved?

upbeat plinth
steep pike
upbeat plinth
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so far u tried conditions based on 1. try a simpler condition

steep pike
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1/(1+i)

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I fear I've lost the plot

upbeat plinth
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we want convergence to 0 so try conditions based on 0

upbeat plinth
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so try .. if entry is 0, .. if entry is not 0

steep pike
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if not then..

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0?

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hows that unique tho

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gen losing my mind over this question

upbeat plinth
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u forgot every entry needs to be different from original value..

steep pike
upbeat plinth
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recall the conditions we need on diagonal sequence:

  • rational entries
  • converges to 0
  • every entry is different from original value
steep pike
upbeat plinth
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whats the simplest nonzero sequence converging to 0?

steep pike
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so entry 0 leave as is

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entry non zero choose 1/n

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unless 1/n is already on diagonal

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will this work

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u forgot again

every entry is different from original value

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u cant leave as is

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lets try again slowly

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the conditions are if entry is 0 or not 0

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if entry is 0 what do i pick?

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oh right

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1/i

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if entry is not 0 what do i pick?

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i being a natural not the entry

steep pike
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if 1 then 0

upbeat plinth
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no try simpler

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but does it not work

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0

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just 0

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yw :))

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Why is the b not distributed but the 2 is

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because the b is being added to the whole 2(b + 2b) term.
multiplication precedes addition, so the distribution (being a form of multiplication) is done prior to b being added to that product.
if it was (b + 2)(b + 2b) on the other hand, then the b will have to be distributed as well.

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when u have 2( x + y) for example
it means that its 2(x) +2(y)

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kongouderp so many helpers all of a sudden. I'll step back then.

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no, it's fine! think you guys will do a better job than me, so keep going.

round nova
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how much do u think that is?

stray hatch
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I see so it means that the two in b+2 (b+ 2b) will be the only one who is gonna be multiplied cus it is beside the parentheses?

round nova
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yes thats correct!

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okay lets try doing 10 + 4(2 + 3)

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30?

round nova
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yes that is correct!

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notice how we didnt do

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(10 + 4) (2+3) that would be incorrect- and give us a way bigger number

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remeber you distrubute the outside number that touches the () into the things inside

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does that make sense?

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I see I see, I really understand it now thank you so much everyone ๐Ÿ’— I really appreciate y'all help

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Alr I'm back again, I'm curious, if the two in the 2nd to the last step were to be negative, would the equation be a minus?

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nw

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if a(x+y) where a is negative, we flip all the signs inside when expanding
-a(x+y) = -ax - ay

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im not good at english can you please explain it more clearly

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This one

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there is actually an implicit addition sign before each (3d+3) term in the original equation

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which gets switched in case a < 0

stray hatch
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What is an implicit addition sign?

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for example would you write +9?

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nope

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we write 9

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the addition sign here is implicit

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Ohhhh I see, I see, thank you so much ๐ŸŒฑso if a would be less than zero the sign would be minus ?

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Let me know if I got it wrong

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Which is it ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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(correct but potential misunderstanding, hence both. I'm using this so as not to interrupt the conversation.)

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Oke! Thank you so much! I may be back again soon cus I'm currently studying for college entrance exams, y'all answers weren't taught to us way back high school ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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you have considered the sign in the middle, but do not forget about the (implicit) sign in front of the first (3d + 3) as well.
if that 2 was a -2, then the RHS on the last line isn't just (3d + 3) - (3d + 3), but -(3d + 3) - (3d + 3). (note the extra negative sign out the front of the first (3d + 3).)

this was also why I โš ๏ธ'd the image and the message underneath, just in case.

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because I did not see you mention the sign of the first binomial.

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if you remember about the sign of the first binomial, then ignore the โš ๏ธ.

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Ohh I see, I did forget about it, thank you so much! I really appreciate it

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how would i find AB?

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u could split the triangle into 2 right angled triangles and apply usual trig

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I think there might be a few different ways here.

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oh, oops.

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but yeah

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whatever you recently learnt, i guess...

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how are you splitting the triangle

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splitting it in the center

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yes, by drawing a vertical line on the center right?

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yep

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the angle on either side wont be affected by this split

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the length u compute (x) will be affected if u use one half of the triangle

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How do you solve this graph? This wasn't in the tutorial

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Well, y = 0.5x + 5 has what shape?

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Is it a piece of circle? Is it a straight line? Or something else?

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It didn't have a shape indicated๐Ÿ˜ญ that's why I find it hard

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Ohh I see

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What do you know about equations such as y = x, or y = -x + 2 and so on?

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In other words, what have you been taught about them?

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Yess, I know about em. It's just my first time seeing that problem

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u can put it that way

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now if you plug in x = 0 in
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what is the y value

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Is it y=5 ?

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so that gives you a point

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of (0, 5)

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now what model is y = 0.5x + 5

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now look at A

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is that linear and hit at the point (0, 5)

stray hatch
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Oke oke! Lemme look at it again

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okay A does hit at (0, 5) however it is not linear
B doesnโ€™t hit at (0, 5) but it is linear

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now look at C

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there isnโ€™t a point of (0, 5) but

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if you plug in x = 2

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which is shown on C

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YAYYY WE GOT IT RIGHT ! What was the procedure to solve it

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for me i like to make a table

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so you notice all graphs is always positive

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so you have a table of
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Let there be 3 people Donald, Jim and Tom. Also, let there be a bag containing 10 cards, 3 of which are winners. Given that Donald Jim and Tom pick cards in that order without returning their card, find the probability of each of them winning.

drifting wraith
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they all have the same chance

inner sierra
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this is a fair game like what?

frail vigil
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Yes its a fair game

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But when one picks it up they dont return it

drifting wraith
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they sorta simultaneoulsy pick a random card, so 3/10 and 3/10 and 3/10

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if they return the card, it's the same thing

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no hold on

drifting wraith
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you got me

solar stump
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If they're NOT returning cards, the chance e.g. that Jim wins depends on what Donald draws

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i'm not even 50% sure

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there's 10 people

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thereโ€™s 3 people

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10 cards

drifting wraith
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then theyall have the same chacne

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i you look at the first three, they all the same chacne

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solar stump
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Donald draws a card and doesn't return it

drifting wraith
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they have the same chance ok

solar stump
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Whether or not he wins, now Jim has to choose from NINE cards

karmic bronze
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If Donald drew a winning card, then Jim can only pick one of TWO remaining winning cards to win

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If not, then he still has THREE cards to win with

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because the first card hase 3/10 chance to be right

solar stump
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Neither 2/9 nor 3/9=1/3 is equal to 3/10

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and 2nd card does

karmic bronze
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because they donโ€™t return the card

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so itโ€™s 3/9

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they have no advanatage over each other

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frail vigil
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So there is no returning cards

drifting wraith
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But I got the answer its 3/10 for all

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or you;re assuming he doesn't

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in reality he does both

karmic bronze
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the second person has 3/9 chance

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so the second person has no advantage

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since the card doesnโ€™t go back

karmic bronze
drifting wraith
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no, it equalizes

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bro i donโ€™t think 3/10, 3/9 or 2/9, 3/8 or 2/8 or 1/8 equalizes

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You need to add the probability of the first person wins or not to find the second person's probability of winning

solar stump
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okay annoyingly the maths does hold out that it does come out to that

drifting wraith
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it doesn't even matter if the card goes back

karmic bronze
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second person has advantage IF the first person doesnโ€™t pick a winning card

karmic bronze
solar stump
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But the reasoning should still warrant checking each case, imo

drifting wraith
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ok you geot me again

abstract vortex
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3/9 > 2/9

karmic bronze
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so it does matter

abstract vortex
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you need to include probability of first then

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OHH

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i just got it ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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Actually its possible to say that we shuffle cards and put them in deck, each person picks top card. Probabilities are same but for second person, question now is if second card is win, and its easy to calculate as 3/10, and we don't care about first card

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Having the right approach to count these probabilities will help determine how to find Tom's chances, I reckon

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solar stump
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-# I cba to check otherwise

abstract vortex
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solar stump
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ohh now I see it

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-# man fok statistics KEK

abstract vortex
frail vigil
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Yes. But those are 2 different events

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i'm pretty sure it doesn't matter if the card is returned

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Coincidentally the probability is the same

abstract vortex
# frail vigil Yes should be

so if we want to know if second person wins we just need to check if second (specific in deck) card is win, it can be done without checking cases for first card

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Thats a good point

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But I was mistaken

frail vigil
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Because its in a bag

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The bag is mixed

abstract vortex
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But its random, deck is shuffled random, we just say that probability of each card to be win card is same

frail vigil
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No its not a deck it's a bag

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You take random cards form a BAG

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Making it impossible to compare to a deck

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abstract vortex
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get 10 persons get each take random card -> bag become a deck of ordered cards

frail vigil
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Its not ordered its a bag

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Let's say me and you are playing

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If i pull a card

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And I win

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Whats the probability of you winning?

abstract vortex
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Total is still same, since total is calculated before game

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No because its a bag not an ordered deck

frail vigil
abstract vortex
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You need probabilities before game started, and prev outcomes doesn't affect next person choice (still random)

abstract vortex
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you run into Monty Hall problem if you think loke that

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Well its still dependant. You showed that is dependant

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You added the probability. 2 different probabilities

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Pls DM me for more about this @abstract vortex

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. yh I did eventually notice that post scriptum

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them picking in sequence is an equivalent process to them all picking simultaneously

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i dont really understand if T is correctly labelled in this diagram

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I do not see a T in the diagram

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I don't even see a T

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omg

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tension

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shouldnt it face the same direction?

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this has really put me off because. for other questions this would be the ideal drawing

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here

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yup

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shouldnt it look like this

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because in other questions

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it always looks like this

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and now im really confused

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I'm confused, where does tension act like this

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it's always supposed to act against mg

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calm rose
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I mean if it's towards mg it's just 0

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tension is supposed to act against the force being applied, at least in a string

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well shouldnt the tension between 2m and the pulley be flipped?

calm rose
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no it's fine, mgsin(theta) acts on left, so tension acts towards right

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like doctorstrangejr said, tension acts in the direction opposite the applied force along the string at the end of the string

slim ibex
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so in general could i just point the tension arrow towards the pulley/ pivot?

calm rose
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in both a string and a rod

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the only variable is where the system goes, i.e. the acceleration of the system

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i see

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Hi trying to understand the monty hall problem https://betterexplained.com/articles/understanding-the-monty-hall-problem/ The author writes "Hereโ€™s how I visualize the filtering process. At the start, every door has an equal chance โ€” I imagine a pale green cloud, evenly distributed among all the doors.

As Monty starts removing the bad candidates (in the 99 you didnโ€™t pick), he โ€œpushesโ€ the cloud away from the bad doors to the good ones on that side. On and on it goes โ€” and the remaining doors get a brighter green cloud.

After all the filtering, thereโ€™s your original door (still with a pale green cloud) and the โ€œChamp Doorโ€ glowing nuclear green, containing the probabilities of the 98 doors."

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I don't understand why that pale green cloud isn't distributed into the door I picked as well. Is it because Monty can't open the door I picked?

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3 doors

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behind one of which is a car

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I like 100 doors more tbh

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remote skiff
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I think 100 doors is easier to understand without some meandering prose about green fog

wraith leaf
sharp harness
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He does mention the 100 doors as well

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With 100 doors, your initial choice has only a 1% chance of being correct, leaving a 99% probability that the prize is behind one of the other doors. After the host eliminates 98 empty doors, that 99% probability concentrates into the single remaining door, making switching the statistically better move.

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sharp harness
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Bc the door I picked hasn't been filtered

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Ok cool

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Yeah the green fog part confused me more

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sharp harness
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It's just I am not sure I get it logically. Like yes I can make a weird variation of the problem with 7 doors, I pick nr 1 monty removes nr 2 and then the 6/7 chance of car concentrates into 5 doors.

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sharp harness
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But that's because you told me that the chance gets concentrated so I do that. Do you know another statistical problem that's tricky like monty hall? With filtering?

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Maybe you can make one?

wraith leaf
sharp harness
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But thx for the help I appreciate it!

wraith leaf
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Though its famous because its unintuitive

remote skiff
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All these problems are just conditional probability questions. Monty Hall is just a warning about your intuition spun into a story and then you are usually introduced to more formal mathematics.

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Another problem is that John has 2 children, at least one of them is a boy, what is the probability the other is a girl.

sharp harness
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Ahh shit I keep thinking its 50/50

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how does at least one of them is a boy make that conditional

remote skiff
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There are two children, so it is either BB GG BG GB

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Then condition on the statement

wraith leaf
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But at least one is asking smth differently then that

sharp harness
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If John tells me one is a boy I can remove GG and GB as possibility and I am left with BB and BG which gives me 50%???

sharp harness
wraith leaf
sharp harness
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I still think of that other child as an independent event. Like when you make two coin flips.

remote skiff
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My first child is a boy and at least one child is a boy are two different statements

sharp harness
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at least one child is a boy = My first child is a boy and the other child is maybe a boy?

wraith leaf
sharp harness
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Ohhh they are pairs!

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sharp harness
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That helped a lot!

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Ok at least one is head but it doesnt specify first or second, that makes sense.

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Okay how would you calculate the probablity if you did pars of 10 coin flips. I don't want to write it all out

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Ah I only remove the one with all tails

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From 9 students, 4 of them wear glasses. if 3 students were chosen at once, what is the probability that:
a. all 3 don't wear glasses
b. 2 of them dont wear glasses
c. at least 1 of them wears glasses

can someone help explain to me how to do this?

latent quiver
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Where are you stuck

queen merlin
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like

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from what my teacher said

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i'm supposed to use a formula which looks like this

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i THINK i can do the first question, but i'm not sure with the second and third

latent quiver
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Binomial distribution

queen merlin
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yeaa that thing

latent quiver
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But

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You dont actually need that

queen merlin
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what

latent quiver
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It's much simpler than that

queen merlin
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what am i supposed to use?

zenith raft
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for b you will probably want to use that

queen merlin
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like with the formula i think a looks like
9C3 (5/9)^3 (4/9)^0
so
9!/6!3! x 625/729
84 x 625/729
and boom i think i put in the wrong number ๐Ÿ˜ญ

latent quiver
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latent quiver
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How many ways can you select 3 students from 9 students?

queen merlin
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uh

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84?

latent quiver
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Yeah

latent quiver
queen merlin
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uhuh

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uhuh

latent quiver
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For a, you want to choose 3 students from a group of 5 that doesnt wear glasses. How would u do that

queen merlin
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5!/2!3! right?

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so uh

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10?

latent quiver
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Yea

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So thats the numeraotr

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Thats it for a

queen merlin
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so its 10/84?

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just that for a?

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wait simplified so 5/42

latent quiver
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Yea

queen merlin
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is that right

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okokok

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then for b

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i use the formula?

latent quiver
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Yea

queen merlin
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ok so

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9C3 x (4/9)^2 x (5/9)^1

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like that?

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9!/6!3! x 16/81 x 5/9
84 x 16/81 x 45/81
60480/6561

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what

latent quiver
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Yeah no

latent quiver
queen merlin
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uhuh

latent quiver
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Your denominator is still the same

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84

queen merlin
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ok

latent quiver
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How many ways can you pick 2 students without glasses

queen merlin
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5!/3!2!
10

latent quiver
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Yep

queen merlin
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then from the one wearing glasses

latent quiver
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And how many ways to pick one that wears glasses

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Yeah

queen merlin
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4!/3!1!

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4

latent quiver
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Yeah

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So multiply them

queen merlin
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40/84

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10/41

latent quiver
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Yeay

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Thats it

queen merlin
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ooo

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then for C

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is it possible if i do like

latent quiver
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Complement

queen merlin
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1 - (all 3 not wearing glasses)

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so uh

latent quiver
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Yep

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Exactly

queen merlin
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1 - (5!/2!3!) / 84
1- 10/84
74/84
37/42?

latent quiver
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You nailed it

queen merlin
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omgg

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thxxx

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how do i close this

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.close

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".close"?

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ok tytytyy

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Did it for you

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Hello, i am struggling to understand what it is asking me here. I cannot figure out where certain bits of informations are missing, how to find them, and its getting compounded with this platform that does not explain anything well at all.

hollow ocean
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it's asking you for the sine of that angle, by hand, presumably by constructing special triangles.

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i need help in converting 2 complex numbers from triogenometric to rectangular

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or, well, one particular special triangle.

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hollow ocean
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if so I'll just take a step back.

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hollow ocean
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okay.

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like, most of it... Im know that the radian measure ends up pointing down, but i am unaware of how to figure out the quadrant the triangle always ends up in. Would this specific one be in the double negative quadrant?

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i am not

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grave thunder
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i think.. sin represents y and cosin x?

grave thunder
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cool

silk nexus
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figure out the value of sin(-11pi/6) and the sign of it

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do this by first considering -11pi/6 as a more familiar angle

grave thunder
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when you have a negative angle, you can repeatedly add 2pi to it until it becomes posaitive

grave thunder
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using unit circle?

silk nexus
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yes

silk nexus
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so it has no effect on the value of sine or cosine

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what is -11pi/6 + 2pi?

grave thunder
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doing the math one sec

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pi/6?

silk nexus
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yes

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ok now what is sin(pi/6) xd

grave thunder
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0.5

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or 1/2

silk nexus
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right ok

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so ur done

grave thunder
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joy

silk nexus
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,w sin(-11pi/6)

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grave thunder
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ok thank you. this was what i was missing

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.close

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yall goats fr doing math for free on disc

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oh wait it opened it again

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.close

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no it's closed dw

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this answer makes 0 sense to me

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so is it saying that if 99 out of 100 samples gives a sample proportion as high or higher than the one obtained i would not reject the null hypothesis?

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why?

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thats just the definition of p-value
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in this case your pvalue is 0.21

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Hi. I've been assigned to find an example of a triary complete code with word lengths ${a,,b,b,c,c,d}$, respectively, such that $1 \leq a<b<c<d$. I'm struggling to find one that satisfies the Kraft equality and been searching online for a while with no luck.

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Gol D Roger

reef gyro
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It should satisfy this

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Where $l_i$ is the respective $i$-th word length.

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Gol D Roger

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.reopen

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Gol D Roger

reef gyro
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I forgot a $b$ there

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Gol D Roger

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I've been trying for a while

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But since $1 \leq a$ almost all trees screw

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Gol D Roger

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reef gyro
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For each word, correct

stoic breach
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So isn't you can transfer them into: $3^{-a} + 2 \cdot 3^{-b} + 2 \cdot 3^{-c} + 3^{-d} = 1$?

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Mercury.

reef gyro
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How can I proceed to get there?

stoic breach
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So which means you can just expand the sum.

reef gyro
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Oh ok

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But, I can't see how to transfer them

stoic breach
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And since we were given: a<b<c<d, then we can see 3^(-a) is the greatest contributor.

stoic breach
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Hope this make sense?

reef gyro
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Ok, $3^{-a}$ is the greatest contributor, , but I can't see how to substitute

warm shaleBOT
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Gol D Roger

stoic breach
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substitute what?

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You mean expanding the sum part?

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Should I just try brute force?

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desert light
reef gyro
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Yes

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At least that's how the prof proposed it

hardy widget
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I'm backing up Mercury that this is impossible. A complete ternary code corresponds to a strictly full ternary tree. If you start with 1 root node and continuously branch it to 3, then the total number of leaves will be 1+2k (where k is the number of internal nodes). But your proposed set of word lengths is exactly 6 words, and 6 is not odd.

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@reef gyro

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I see... well, I'll tell prof and see if he was mistaken. Thanks a lot!

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