#help-10

1 messages · Page 400 of 1

storm ridge
#

and c k-3

candid yarrow
#

yes

storm ridge
#

The discriminant is -4k + 16?

candid yarrow
#

,rotate

warm shaleBOT
storm ridge
#

-4k/-4 = 16/-4

k = -4 (?)

candid yarrow
#

oh

storm ridge
#

Oh positive 4

#

Alright thanks so much everyone I can finally submit this atrocity 🙏🏽🤍

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

If you are done with this channel, please mark your problem as solved by typing .close

storm ridge
#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @storm ridge

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

mild kernel
obtuse pebbleBOT
mild kernel
#

am i allowed to ask for help please

fathom flicker
#

No

#

Just kidding DANIMAL1

#

What are you stuck on

mild kernel
#

well the top of the garage roof is 1.5m above the ceiling and the distance from the top of the roof to each gutter is 3.5m and I'm meant to calculate the width of the garage which I know the answer is 6.3m but I need to write how it got It but that's the thing someone already told me that answer but didn't write how they got it and i have to use the abc formula

fathom flicker
mild kernel
#

i am dumb

#

i dont know man

#

😭

fathom flicker
#

Do you know SOHCAHTOA

mild kernel
#

yes

hearty terrace
#

do u know pythagoras

fathom flicker
#

Could you use it to find the missing side length of the right side triangle

#

Oh right, it is just pythagorean theorem, no need for SOHCAHTOA here

mild kernel
hearty terrace
#

yeah

#

this

mild kernel
#

yeahh thats what im doing

#

but i dont know where to put what?

#

is it plus or take away

hearty terrace
#

hm?

#

where to put what

mild kernel
#

because i did √(3.5²+1.5²) and it came up with 3.8m

#

but the answer im looking for is 6.3m

hearty terrace
#

o

haughty stump
#

alright look at it this way

#

you have c

#

you have a

#

you are not solving for c

#

you are solving for b

#

this means b^2 = c^2 - a^2

#

plug in the values for c and a you get:

b = sqrt(3.5^2 - 1.5^2)

#

aka b = 3.16227766017

#

this is half the wdith of the garage

#

so the width of the garage is 2b

#

2b = 2(3.16227766017)

#

2b = 6.32455532034

hearty terrace
#

^

mild kernel
#

oh okay thank youuu!

haughty stump
#

aka 6.3 rounded to the tenths

mild kernel
#

ahh okay

haughty stump
#

add the units

#

and you get 6.3 meters = width of the garage

mild kernel
#

thank you!!

haughty stump
mild kernel
#

close to close?

haughty stump
#

dotclose

#

replace dot with a period

mild kernel
#

ahh

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@mild kernel Has your question been resolved?

#
Channel closed

Closed by @mild kernel

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

warped hearth
#

Hi please help? Idk how to approach this question, thanks.

gloomy vector
#

can you write it in modular form?

warped hearth
#

I'm supposed to work it out using hcf and lcm

#

im not so sure what that means.

#

I'm not too advanced, im almost 14

frigid prawn
#

by the division theorem, a number q can be expressed as
q = ma + b

#

b is the remainder, 5 in this case

#

q = ma + 5

last pilot
#

or you can just

#

calculate the LCM

warped hearth
#

im not so sure what the division theorom is sorry

last pilot
#

multiply until it's 4 digits long

frigid prawn
#

true ... ._. nvm

last pilot
#

and add 5

#

so

warped hearth
#

I see

#

so js trial and error?

last pilot
#

modular form isn't really needed lol

last pilot
#

first calculate the LCM

warped hearth
#

oh wait

#

LCM of 40 50 and 60

last pilot
last pilot
warped hearth
#

600

last pilot
#

yep

warped hearth
#

Then what do I do, from there?

last pilot
#

find another number

#

that's divisible by these three

#

but is four digits long

warped hearth
#

Ok

last pilot
#

aka find a multiple of 600 four digits long

warped hearth
#

I jst hve a question

last pilot
#

yeah

#

@warped hearth what's ur question dude

warped hearth
#

for the previous question, this.

#

I did this

last pilot
#

so just 605

#

yeah

warped hearth
#

Am I supposed to use a method likethis?

#

my teacher was saying that he cares about the working out more than the answer or sm

#

so like do i do it with variables do u think?

last pilot
#

no

warped hearth
#

Ohk thankyou

last pilot
#

ur method is perfectly fine

warped hearth
#

alright thanks

#

so the answer is 1205?

gloomy vector
# warped hearth

i remember not knowing the fact that something like the top can do that, so i plugged in small numbers and basically hoped it worked lmao

last pilot
warped hearth
#

Alright is this k?

#

Thanks

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@warped hearth Has your question been resolved?

#
Channel closed

Closed by @warped hearth

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

granite dragon
obtuse pebbleBOT
opaque dome
obtuse pebbleBOT
# granite dragon
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked.
5. I have a question about someone else's work/solution.
6. I have completed the problem and don't need help anymore. Thank you.
7. None of the above
haughty stump
#

Find du

haughty stump
#

negative

#

but yeah

#

but thats du/dx you need du which is -(dx/((x-1)^2))

granite dragon
#

ye

haughty stump
#

then sub u and du into the integral

#

and then simplify and yada yada

#

gtg for like 20mins so ask yakubros or something if you get stuck again

granite dragon
#

but the bottom doesn't have (x-1)^2

#

<@&286206848099549185>

neon gazelle
#

<@&286206848099549185>

#

i need help

#

where can i do anything

opaque dome
#

! Occupied

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

Someone else is already using this help channel. If you need help with a question, please open your own help channel/thread (see #❓how-to-get-help for instructions).

granite dragon
#

@opaque dome

#

do you know how to do it

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@granite dragon Has your question been resolved?

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@granite dragon Has your question been resolved?

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed due to timeout

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

devout warren
#

Hello

obtuse pebbleBOT
devout warren
#

Please could I have some help understanding differential operators

#

And how they are shown as a matrix

#

Is it just a matrix with d/dx down the leading diagonal and zeroes everywhere else

idle leaf
devout warren
#

Ok

idle leaf
#

You'll likely to get better answers

devout warren
#

Thank you very much

#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @devout warren

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

ruby nimbus
obtuse pebbleBOT
ruby nimbus
#

i have answer but not sure how to get? i understand that to find the 'chance' we find P(ideal out come)/p(total possibilities)

fossil crag
#

so it's not P(...)/P(...) you're looking for, it's number(...)/number(total)

#

so suppose you have to sit M1,....,M5 and W1,...,W5 around a table

#

make M1 sit anywhere you want, it doesn't matter where since you can rotate the table

ruby nimbus
#

oh right sorry

#

ye i menat that

fossil crag
#

if you want to separate the men

#

what is the "sequence" of M and W that will ensue?

#

like is MMWWMMW... possible

ruby nimbus
#

no

#

because 2 MM

fossil crag
#

ok

#

so forgetting about the number of each person

#

like M4 becomes M, etc

#

what are the possibilities?

#

(for reference you're starting with M since you start from M1)

ruby nimbus
#

its okay i think i got it now

#

thanks a lot rafilou2003!

fossil crag
#

alr

ruby nimbus
#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @ruby nimbus

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

wooden narwhal
obtuse pebbleBOT
wooden narwhal
#

Hellow where do i even begin

#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @wooden narwhal

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

dense tinsel
#

I wanted to make sure this was correct

obtuse pebbleBOT
dense tinsel
#

I wanted confirmation that this is right

#

I thought it should be

#

Or not

#

I think i had to divide by 2, not by 4

rigid skiff
#

u were supposed to take the square root of the area

#

@dense tinsel

#

or better yet just divide 4.1 by 4

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@dense tinsel Has your question been resolved?

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed due to timeout

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

jade leaf
#

I've been stuck on this matrices questions for a while, it has to be solved using the gauss-jordan elimination method, could anyone help me out

8 6 4 | 148
6 10 4 | 160
6 10 8 | 180

unreal musk
#

Did you have any ideas that you tried?

jade leaf
#

R1 - R3
R2 - R3
R2 = R1 - 4R2
R1 = R3 - R1

and that didnt work

#

I got the bottom row to be one, but it didnt match the answer at the back! 😢

unreal musk
#

I see sadCatThumbsUp well, I mean, row operations can be done in any order, which might make things easier if you choose a certain choice first catThink

#

In particular, those last two rows, almost look the same Foxy_Popcorn

jade leaf
#

ooh, ill try something about that, thanks!

unreal musk
#

You might find that much easier happyCat it'll get rid of things in a different order maybe than you might be used to, but it could be more convenient (imo it is happyCat)

jade leaf
#

I solved it, thanks!!

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@jade leaf Has your question been resolved?

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed due to timeout

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

languid mirage
#

I need to make a piecewise function word problem that when is graphed shows a certain shape. I need help we've been trying all day

timid silo
#

What shape?

languid mirage
#

anything, as long as it draws something

#

and compatible with a word problem that can be used on a piecewise function

iron edge
languid mirage
#

but yeah something like that

iron edge
#

World or word?

languid mirage
#

WORD

#

myb

#

im so sorry

iron edge
#

It’s ok, you’re good

languid mirage
#

thank you

#

something like this

#

but it has to be, a shape when you graph it

#

we can't seem to make values that matches with the word problem

#

that can make a shape

iron edge
#

Looks interesting

hexed gull
weary reef
#

grrr

#

beat me to it

languid mirage
iron edge
#

Well yeah, lunatic has basically given the main approach

languid mirage
#

but i don't know how to make it match to the world problem

#

wait

#

wait actually

#

i just found out how

#

thanks to my team

#

since its negative, we'll do a debt word problem

#

ill try hol up

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@languid mirage Has your question been resolved?

#
Channel closed

Closed by @languid mirage

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

fierce glade
#

Is it possible to find the number of Hamiltonian cycles in a tournament graph given that it is strongly connected?

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@fierce glade Has your question been resolved?

fierce glade
#

<@&286206848099549185>

neon gazelle
#

yes

fierce glade
#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @fierce glade

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

inland thicket
obtuse pebbleBOT
inland thicket
#

confusion

#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @inland thicket

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

solemn basin
inland thicket
#

sorry im stressed

#

🫨

#

cos

#

coffe drip on my t shirt

nocturne bronze
inland thicket
#

and i need to wear a very warm one

nocturne bronze
#

so it will be x^1

#

= x

#

it should be x^0 for being 1

inland thicket
#

hmm ye

#

shiver thanks

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

torpid topaz
obtuse pebbleBOT
torpid topaz
#

help

#

i just cant seem to get the equation

#

<@&286206848099549185>

lapis wedge
#

Let me think about it for a second

torpid topaz
#

yay sure

lusty sentinel
#

a = 3 b = 17

torpid topaz
#

... ik i have the answer, but i need the steps

lusty sentinel
#

a + b = 20 and 3a^2 = b + 10

#

solve for a and b

lapis wedge
#

Since it is not said to divide 20 into 2 EQUAL parts, we will use 2 different variables x and y.
So x + y = 20.
And now just follow the second sentence:
3×x² = y + 10

torpid topaz
#

oki i got it

#

thank u so much

lapis wedge
#

You're welcome

torpid topaz
#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @torpid topaz

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

kindred saddle
#

How to solve x^x^3 = 3

obtuse pebbleBOT
opaque dome
#

Log that evil expression

#

Or let y = x^3

#

Yeah im more into the second

#

Cuz would be $x = \sqrt[3]{y}$

warm shaleBOT
#

YakuBros

old lily
#

need lambert W function probably

opaque dome
#

I have a way without

tardy epoch
wary badger
#

you mean $x^{x^3}$ yes?

warm shaleBOT
opaque dome
warm shaleBOT
#

YakuBros

opaque dome
#

$(y^{\frac{1}{3}})^y = 3$

warm shaleBOT
#

YakuBros

opaque dome
#

Cube both sides

#

$y^y = 3^3$

warm shaleBOT
#

YakuBros

opaque dome
#

Pretty forward now, remembering y = x^3

wary badger
#

ahh that’s nice

#

good spot

kindred saddle
obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@kindred saddle Has your question been resolved?

#
Channel closed

Closed by @kindred saddle

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

#
Channel closed

Channel closed due to the original message being deleted.
If you did not intend to do this, please open a new help channel,
as this action is irreversible, and this channel may abruptly lock.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

tall owl
#

Help I’m lost

obtuse pebbleBOT
tall owl
worn yoke
#

do you know how to find taylor/maclaurin series?

tall owl
#

no idea

worn yoke
#

well have you been introduced to taylor/maclaurin series yet?

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@tall owl Has your question been resolved?

worn yoke
#

ok. well for now you can use the fact that the "best polynomial approximation near x = 0" should have the same value, first derivative, and second derivative as the function at x = 0

tall owl
#

should i. try to teach myself the taylor/maclaurin series or is that something ill learn later in calc BC?

worn yoke
#

it should be covered by your class

tall owl
#

thanks

#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @tall owl

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

rocky mesa
#

I'm having trouble with this problem. I'm not sure how to get the sin out the denominator

rocky mesa
#

I've broken it down to this point

hardy widget
#

This is cos(7x)

rocky mesa
#

right, my bad\

hardy widget
#

But recall that $\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{\sin x}{x}=1$

warm shaleBOT
#

Civil Service Pigeon

hardy widget
#

That’s really all you need

rocky mesa
#

Yeah, but how do I manipulate this into that form? Sorry if this if that's a dumb question, I'm struggling here 😭

hardy widget
#

Where it would be beneficial to do so is for you to figure out

#

Just make sure that you keep it as an equivalent form

rocky mesa
#

So for my first fraction, would I multiply it by 7x/7x?

hardy widget
rocky mesa
#

I guess where I'm confused is what happens to that extra x in the numerator?

hardy widget
rocky mesa
#

what do I do with these extra x's?

#

oops that should only be x in the second fraction

hardy widget
#

sin(7x)

hardy widget
#

sin(3x)

rocky mesa
#

hmmm okay

hardy widget
#

$\frac{7}{3} \cdot \frac{\sin 7x}{7x} \cdot \frac{3x}{\sin 3x} \cdot \frac{1}{\cos 7x}$

warm shaleBOT
#

Civil Service Pigeon

hardy widget
#

It should be this

hardy widget
rocky mesa
#

So I just end up with 7/3?

hardy widget
#

Yeah

rocky mesa
#

whooof, calculus is confusing. Thanks for the help

hardy widget
#

!done

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

If you are done with this channel, please mark your problem as solved by typing .close

#

@rocky mesa Has your question been resolved?

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed due to timeout

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

shell fulcrum
#

Hello, basically I'm trying to find the perimeter of this parallelogram but I'm not sure how to find that missing side. The problem gives that triangle for extra info but I'm not sure what to do with it

Thank you

shell fulcrum
#

And for clarification, the line of at extending from (a) to the right side of the parallelogram is supposed to be one single straigbt line

pliant lily
#

Similar triangles adb and cde

#

With a coefficient of 1/2 => cd = 1/2ad=6

#

@shell fulcrum

shell fulcrum
#

Thank you

#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @shell fulcrum

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

odd mortar
#

dont u have to flip the inequality sign after dividing?

odd mortar
#

or is that something else

worn yoke
#

only if the number you divide by is negative

odd mortar
#

ah

#

okay

#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @odd mortar

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

molten spear
#

well technically reciprocal also requires flipping

ember frost
subtle sinew
molten spear
#

yes iirc if you get the reciprocal of both sides you have to flip the inequality sign as well, not just negatives

5 > 3

1/5 < 1/3

odd mortar
#

good to know

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

woven urchin
obtuse pebbleBOT
woven urchin
#

can someone explain to me what is wrong with my proof for de moivre's for rational numbers?

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@woven urchin Has your question been resolved?

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@woven urchin Has your question been resolved?

woven urchin
#

<@&286206848099549185>

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@woven urchin Has your question been resolved?

tardy epoch
obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed due to timeout

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

brittle holly
#

can i ask for help here

obtuse pebbleBOT
brittle holly
#

apparently at least one of these are wrong

#

im like 99 percent sure the first three are right

near kraken
#

50

#

5*

#

6 too

brittle holly
#

it said the fourth one was wrong and that didnt even maje sense to me

near kraken
#

8

brittle holly
#

5, 6 , and 8 are wrong?

near kraken
#

4 seems right

#

i think yes

#

5, def not approaching -4

#

6, same thing

#

and 8, it does exist (it's asking for the limit not the value)

#

there could be others wrong idk

tawdry lark
#

Lim x approaches 3 definitely approaches a value

brittle holly
#

i put dne because i thought it was a double sided that are both different values therefore dne

near kraken
#

we're talking about 8 right?

tawdry lark
#

Yeah number 8

brittle holly
#

yes

near kraken
#

both are approaching 0 as x->3

tawdry lark
#

It approaches 0 from both sides like he said. It doesnt need to be defined at the point for the limit to exist

brittle holly
#

do you always start at the closed dots when moving from left to right or vice versa

near kraken
#

u start from wherever

brittle holly
#

i guess i was just tripping out and i was doing it like this

#

hold on ill send image

tawdry lark
#

Also 5,6 are wrong, im not sure where you got those answers from

brittle holly
tawdry lark
#

As x approaches 1 from the positive side, ie from the right, what does f(x) approach

brittle holly
#

is this question 2

tawdry lark
#

No 6

brittle holly
#

six says positive one approaching from the right

#

x approaching positive 1 from the right

tawdry lark
#

Yes

#

So what does f(x) approach

brittle holly
#

is it also 3

tawdry lark
#

Where did you get 3 from

#

Dawg look at the graph if you need help

#

You legit circled the point

brittle holly
#

i already put that

#

it says its wrong

#

thats why im confused

tawdry lark
#

What did you put

brittle holly
#

-1

tawdry lark
#

Yes

brittle holly
#

oh wait nvm its right i accidentally added a space after and it doesnt accept that

tawdry lark
#

🤦

brittle holly
#

my b

tawdry lark
#

No not ur bad

#

Whoever made the website’s bad

#

Ok now use the same logic approaching from the left for number 5

brittle holly
#

so if not 4 then 3

tawdry lark
#

No dont go guessing again😭

brittle holly
#

im not guessing i just seriously dont understand

tawdry lark
#

Ok, same logic, as x approaches 1 from the negative side, ie from the left, what does f(x) approach

#

So look at the graph as it gets close to 1 on the left end

brittle holly
#

if its not 3 or 4 idk

tawdry lark
#

The y value dawg

brittle holly
#

like im starting from that closed dot then moving from there to the right, and the function ends at 4 from what i see

#

o

#

0.5

tawdry lark
#

Huh

#

Ok chill out a bit

brittle holly
#

the y value of the closed dot?

tawdry lark
#

First thing is that the graph never even goes to y=4

#

Second, dont think about the endpoints too much

#

We are talking about just the limits from one side

#

So look at the graph and scan across it starting from the left and stop at x=1

brittle holly
#

this is how i thought im supposed to look at it

tawdry lark
#

Ok i see why ur confused

#

Where is x = 1

#

Circle where it is

brittle holly
tawdry lark
#

Ok

#

Now lets define “from the left”

brittle holly
#

ok

tawdry lark
#

A point like (0,-2.5) is to the left of the (1, -1)

#

When i talk about “from the left”, i mean to the left of x=1, not starting from x=1 and moving left

#

You need to understand that the x approaches 1 doesn’t mean where you start, but rather where you end up

brittle holly
#

but doesnt the - mean from the left then to the right

tawdry lark
#

Yes

#

Left to right

tawdry lark
#

Until you end up at x=1

brittle holly
#

so i can start from anywhere at that function but must end up at x=1

tawdry lark
#

Yep

#

More specifically anywhere to the left of x=1

brittle holly
#

so i actually dont even worry about that function on the right side and look at the other one instead

tawdry lark
#

Yessir

brittle holly
#

ok ok one sec

#

so then\

#

-2

#

is the answer

tawdry lark
#

Yep👏

brittle holly
#

awesome thx man

tawdry lark
#

Np

brittle holly
#

i was looking at it completely different and didnt realize it bc somehow i was getting like 85 percent of the problems right

tawdry lark
#

It makes much more sense once you understand what its asking for

brittle holly
#

would you say actually sketching the graph is harder than this

#

this for example

tawdry lark
#

I mean you dont have to sketch it once you understand it, but when you’re starting out it can be helpful just to visualize your work

#

I would stick to the graph they give you though; it has all the necessary information

tawdry lark
#

You dont need to do allat

brittle holly
#

well i mean in this problem its not me willingly using it its asking me to use desmos and graph it once i solve

tawdry lark
#

Once you get the hang of it the graphing will practice get more tedious. They probably wont ask you to graph for most problems though; they only ask you to do this for your understanding.

brittle holly
#

ok well idek how to do that so im gonna watch org chem tutor on yt

tawdry lark
#

Ight

brittle holly
#

thx for the help it really made more sense after you explained

tawdry lark
#

Ofc, thats what we’re here for

brittle holly
#

do you hagv

brittle holly
#

i cant find a video on yt

#

@tawdry lark

tawdry lark
#

Idk i never did it before

brittle holly
#

am i allowed to ping helpers role\

brittle holly
obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@brittle holly Has your question been resolved?

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@brittle holly Has your question been resolved?

#
Channel closed

Closed by @brittle holly

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

ember dagger
obtuse pebbleBOT
ember dagger
#

Hi

#

I've been having trouble with this problem on my test

#

this is my progress so far

#

I think I did something wrong?

#

Idk how to keep going 😅

#

<@&286206848099549185>

#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @ember dagger

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

nocturne bronze
obtuse pebbleBOT
# ember dagger <@&286206848099549185>

Please only use the <@&286206848099549185> ping once if your question has not been answered for 15 minutes. Please do not ping or DM individual users about your question.

ember dagger
#

sorry I forgot, i haven't used the server in a while 😅

#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

unique storm
#

i am absolutely lost and have made no progress, ive tried all i can but all my answers have been wrong

unique storm
tardy epoch
#

What about the new limits

#

In terms of u

unique storm
#

6 to 375, it said to order them so “that the lower limit integration is less than the upper limit of integration”

tardy epoch
#

,calc 631-25^2

warm shaleBOT
#

Result:

6
tardy epoch
#

,calc 631-16^2

warm shaleBOT
#

Result:

375
tardy epoch
#

Are they swapped or did you already swap them because of the -sign on -2rdr

unique storm
#

i swapped them already

tardy epoch
#

What did you get for the new integrand

#

And anti derivative

unique storm
#

i cant do square roots so im just doing to the 1/2 power

tardy epoch
#

Why is there a -sign

unique storm
#

is there not supposed to be

tardy epoch
unique storm
#

that was my last attempt

tardy epoch
#

When you swap the limits, you pick up a -sign

unique storm
#

ok maybe i didnt swap like i thought

unique storm
#

thank you😭

tardy epoch
#

Common mistake

#

Don't make it on your test

unique storm
#

will not make it again, i was stuck on that for too long

#

thank you again, how do i close this

tardy epoch
#

Type .close

unique storm
#

okok ty

#

.Close

#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @unique storm

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

zenith marten
#

If I have a plastic cup that's shaped like this, how would I use optimisation to find the minimum surface area of plastic to hold a specific volume of liquid V? I was trying to use surface of revolution (integration) and then differentiate to find minimum point, but then there are 3 variables - the radius of the base r, the height of the cup h, and how slanted the sides are (difference between the x coordinate of the top corner and the x coordinate of the bottom corner is t, in the image of the graph). I can't figure out how to do this without having to reduce the number of variables down to 2. I am ignoring the thickness of the plastic (assume it is negligible).

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@zenith marten Has your question been resolved?

zenith marten
#

<@&286206848099549185>

vale saddle
#

hi guys

tardy epoch
zenith marten
tardy epoch
#

It's your problem I dunno

zenith marten
wintry swift
obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@zenith marten Has your question been resolved?

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed due to timeout

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

neon gazelle
#

can i ask mat questions here

obtuse pebbleBOT
deft magnet
#

go ahead

junior granite
neon gazelle
#

!status

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin.
2. I have begun but got stuck midway.
3. I got an answer but I was told that it's wrong.
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked.
5. I have a question about someone else's work/solution.
6. I have completed the problem and don't need help anymore. Thank you.
7. None of the above
neon gazelle
#

1

deft magnet
#

do you have any more information? Like a description

swift stream
#

It looks like the differences of the corresponding top and bottom numbers are taken. This works everywhere except the first 5 in 551

junior granite
#

considering the entire number works

#

915-364

#

789-543

#

or |543-789| whatever

swift stream
#

Yeah it just looks like | top nunber - bottom number |

neon gazelle
waxen mirage
#

7×8 +4 = 60

#

9×9 +9 = 90

waxen mirage
#

Or x = 8

neon gazelle
#

oh

#

i was seeing horizontal only

#

thx XOR-11

#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @neon gazelle

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

small sedge
#

im having trouble with this question
i looked up this solution but heres the issuehttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1180601068799918220/1279757359828307999/image.png?ex=66d59a6b&is=66d448eb&hm=f7cb6b0f4346d00f39db9e9d32cd49429f8af1b1266756d698d55e3e018a32c1&

they are dividing the quotient successively, not the number
thats my problem

waxen mirage
#

Consider the number 10

small sedge
#

oki give me a moment

#

wait

#

thank you so much wth

#

this is way easier

#

i got the ans 0,0,2 as remainders instantly

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@small sedge Has your question been resolved?

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed due to timeout

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

ionic oar
#

"Let there be a square with sides a + 6, if we cut out an inner square if sides a - 1. if the shape we left with has an area equal to another square with sides k, find the minimum of a + k (a and k are positive integers greater than 1)

ionic oar
#

i got that 14a + 35 = k^2 and the possible (a,k) are (1,7)and (29,21)

#

but a > 1 so a + k = 50?

#

im wondering if i missed any a less than 29

fiery sinew
ionic oar
#

this question was included in a standard math education test for 8th grade

fiery sinew
#

ok

ionic oar
#

so i dont think differentiating is used

#

but id still want to know how to do it with differentiating

fiery sinew
#

wait nvm

#

iam dumb lol

#

i think u need other ppl to help you, i have no idea on this question

static furnace
#

did you try 14?

#

its a hunch

ionic oar
#

231 isnt a square

#

<@&286206848099549185>

static furnace
shadow copper
ionic oar
#

its thai

ionic oar
static furnace
#

well

#

if you rewrite your equation you get a=(k^2)/14-35

#

and since a and k have to be integers

#

and 35 is an integer

#

than k^2/14 must be an integer

ionic oar
#

oh

shadow copper
ionic oar
#

then k must be a multiple of 7

static furnace
#

right

#

and since 14 and 7 dont work

#

then k must be 21

ionic oar
#

thanks

#

i think this question would be too hard for a standard math test, no?

#

cause most people arent even taught (a + b)^2

static furnace
#

it is quite methodical

static furnace
ionic oar
#

anyways thanks

#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @ionic oar

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

surreal pike
#

how is (1/k) from 0 to infinity a diverging sequence?

azure wraith
#

Its harmonic

#

And the partial sum always increases

opaque dome
#

k can't be 0

tender tusk
#

i think a common proof is to take the series and group the terms 1 + 1/2 + (1/3 + 1/4) + (1/5 + 1/6 + 1/7 + 1/8) + ... and you can see that each of the groups are greater than 1/2 and thus the series is divergent

surreal pike
surreal pike
high lily
#

don't conflate sequence with series

opaque dome
#

Series is the sum

#

Of the terms

surreal pike
#

im sorry, im pretty new to the concept

opaque dome
#

Sequence is the "list" of the terms

opaque dome
surreal pike
#

so, the sequence is bounded below right? like it cant go below a certain point. also the limit of the inifite'th term is 0
and the sequence is monotonically decreasing, why then is it not considered converging?

opaque dome
#

The sequence is converging, but the serie isin't

surreal pike
#

ooh so

#

the sum will never converge to a finite value

#

but the terms will?

opaque dome
#

Yes

surreal pike
#

okayyy i think i get it

#

i was just stuck on this part

#

thank you!

opaque dome
#

And btw

#

If you want a different case, where both converges (sequence and serie), you have for integers k non zero, 1/k^2

surreal pike
#

how do you prove that?

#

i can see the series converging

opaque dome
opaque dome
surreal pike
#

series

#

wait

#

can we do it with cauchy's principle?

opaque dome
#

It is known as basel problem, if you're interested you can look into https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basel_problem

The Basel problem is a problem in mathematical analysis with relevance to number theory, concerning an infinite sum of inverse squares. It was first posed by Pietro Mengoli in 1650 and solved by Leonhard Euler in 1734, and read on 5 December 1735 in The Saint Petersburg Academy of Sciences. Since the problem had withstood the attacks of the lead...

surreal pike
#

okay thanks

opaque dome
#

There are videos on yt too

#

3b1b done one

surreal pike
#

really? 💀

#

i'll look into it, thanks!

opaque dome
#

You're welcome

surreal pike
#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @surreal pike

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

restive coral
#

Can someone explain how to get to this answer

drifting wraith
#

| x − a | is distance between x and a

#

so it's points that are equally far from −321 and 750, so there should be one like that

restive coral
restive gorge
#

,, \abs{x} = \sqrt{x^2}

warm shaleBOT
drifting wraith
#

wut

restive coral
#

what

restive gorge
#

Then you can square both sides and solve the quadratic equation

drifting wraith
#

oh okay

high lily
#

there's no need to apply |x| = sqrt(x^2)
you can square directly if you want to go that route

#

nvm, just thought if it differently

restive gorge
#

How is |x| injective

tranquil geyser
#

What about x=-y

tranquil geyser
restive gorge
#

Yes

tranquil geyser
#

x+321=x-750 is not a valid option I think 🤔

tranquil geyser
#

):

restive coral
#

I am thinking but have no idea

tranquil geyser
#

So I picked the negative value

ripe shard
#

id say the easiest way is to draw a quick diagram to see which branches u need to equate

#

doesnt have to be to scale

restive coral
#

let x+321=-(x+750)

tranquil geyser
tranquil geyser
tranquil geyser
ripe shard
#

nah like there are multiple solutions right

#

so like a quick graph of the two graph will show u where they intecept

#

so u know what branches of each graph u take

restive coral
#

x = -535.5?

#

x + 321 = -x-750

2x = -1071

x = -535.5

tranquil geyser
#

It says|x-750|

#

Not |x+750|

#

MB

restive coral
#

😭

tranquil geyser
#

I corrected the error 😞

#

😞

#

Now try it again @restive coral

#

😅

restive coral
#

214.5

#

lets GO

#

@tranquil geyser

tranquil geyser
restive coral
#

can you explain the -(x-750) for a very big NOOB

#

ELI5

#

why the -(x-750)

tranquil geyser
restive coral
#

|x-750| translates TO -(x-750) ??

tranquil geyser
restive coral
#

Whaaaaaaaaaat

restive gorge
tranquil geyser
#

If |z|=|x-750|

#

Then z=±(x-750)

restive coral
#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @restive coral

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

chrome arch
obtuse pebbleBOT
chrome arch
azure wraith
#

How did go from this to this

warm shaleBOT
azure wraith
#

How did u get this inside the log

restive gorge
#

Actually

#

The more I look at it the more it confuses me

#

Either it's expressed bad or it's just wrong

warm shaleBOT
azure wraith
#

Also

#

Uhh

#

Try considering the limit definition of e

chrome arch
#

I asked for the solution from someone

restive gorge
#

The step is just wrong, judging by the next lines

chrome arch
#

Howcome the answer is correct

#

@red ice

#

Could you help me understand this?

red ice
#

pls don't ping me

red ice
chrome arch
#

Alr

chrome arch
restive gorge
#

I would consinder a substitution

#

,, \lim_{x \to 0} = (1+2x)^{\frac{1}{2x}} = \lim_{u \to \infty} = \left (1+\frac{1}{u} \right )^{u}

warm shaleBOT
restive gorge
#

This should let you understand whats going on in the numerator

chrome arch
#

I don't understand

#

I'll just use the expansion for it

restive gorge
#

Thats literally the limit definition of e

#

The way I wrote it

#

You basically have 0/0

chrome arch
#

<@&286206848099549185>

restive gorge
#

Now I understand south

chrome arch
obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@chrome arch Has your question been resolved?

chrome arch
#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @chrome arch

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

prime imp
#

hi so can someone explain what is inverse functions such as arcosine and artan and arsine?
idk really get those

stone holly
#

we know that

#

for eg.
sin(π/6) = 1/2
so now understand like
arc sin (1/2) or sin inverse (1/2) = π/6

#

in short arcsinx or arccosx is an angle for which you get x

so if,
a ==> some constant b/w [-1, 1]
sin x = a

arc sin(a) would be equal to x

#

(there could be multiple solution, but we take principle values)

haughty stump
#

When trying to solve sin(π) you are trying to find what sin is at the angle π

When trying to solve arcsin(0) you are trying to find what the starting angle is if sin is equal to 0

Since there are multiple places where sin can be 0 you COULD have multiple solutions. However, it depends on the range you are given, but more likely than not for arcsin it will be between -π/2 and π/2. This means the only solution within this range for arcsin(0) would be 0.

TLDR: for sin you are just trying to find what sin is given the starting angle and for arcsin you are trying to find the starting angle given what sin is.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@prime imp Has your question been resolved?

#
Channel closed

Closed by @prime imp

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

restive coral
#

can someone explain how this is even possible

haughty stump
#

rad(3x^2) is the same as rad(3) * rad(x^2)

#

and rad(x^2) is just x

#

so they just took out the x

restive coral
#

not sqrt(3x)

haughty stump
#

you can see that it isnt covering the x, only the 3

marsh geyser
#

Do you have more context?

#

I cant see the domain

#

Is it positive numbers?

haughty stump
#

hence underlined part

marsh geyser
#

But sqrt(x^2) is not generally x

#

But |x|

#

That is why i was asking for more context

restive coral
#

this is the context Write the following expressions, in which x represents a positive real number, as simple as
possible:

(sqrt(3x) - sqrt(x))/(sqrt(3x) + sqrt(x))

marsh geyser
#

Perfect

restive coral
alpine bison
marsh geyser
#

Positive was the info missing for me

marsh geyser
restive coral
#

I dont understand what just happened

alpine bison
restive coral
#

I understand what @haughty stump said but not what you (@samuel) said

haughty stump
#

Oh hes just being technical

#

Sometimes sqrt(x^2) can only be one thing

#

if x was given as either a positive or negative integer

marsh geyser
#

When you have only positive numbers, you can indeed say that sqrt(x^2) = x

#

But nor when you have whole domain

#

Because for example, sqrt(3^2) = sqrt((-3)^2)

#

But -3 is not = to 3

restive coral
#

ohhh

#

yeah

#

I understand

marsh geyser
#

Instead |3| = |-3|

restive coral
#

yes

#

Thanks

#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @restive coral

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

limpid eagle
#

I'm currently trying to learn the delta-epsilon proof (which is killing my mind), and in this example with quadratics, I think I loosely understand everything up to the part where I highlighted, which I do not see the logic behind "bounding" |x+3|, what does bounding even mean in this situation? Also if I can get help with the rest of the proof after that, that would be great too

unreal musk
#

You want the |x + 3| term to be at most "something", so that you can "ignore" it

#

You can then replace the |x + 3| in |x + 3||x - 3| with its upper bound (with the appropriate inequality), and then just deal with what you end up finding, which'll only have the |x - 3| to work with

#

In their case, they choose to force delta to be at most 1, which means that |x + 3| < 7, so you then can say that |x + 3||x - 3| < 7|x - 3|

limpid eagle
hexed gull
#

and delta <= 1

#

imply |x-3| < 1, which you can rewrite as -1 < x-3 < 1

unreal musk
#

They did the inequality chains here: the fact that x + 3 is strictly greater than 5 means it's [x + 3 is] positive, so x + 3 = |x + 3|

limpid eagle
hexed gull
obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@limpid eagle Has your question been resolved?

unreal musk
#

(as an alternate way, you can use the triangle inequality to say |x + 3| = |(x - 3) + 6| <= |x - 3| + 6 < 1 + 6)

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed due to timeout

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

fresh bay
#

how do u do this

obtuse pebbleBOT
fresh bay
#

i just dont get the pi thing

lusty sentinel
# fresh bay how do u do this

The bounds indicate the quadrant. sin theta indicates the ratio of the opposite side to the hypotenuse of a supposed triangle. Use Pythagoras to find the last side and then solve for tan and cos theta

#

the values of sin cos and tan change depending on the quadrant they are on

fresh bay
#

so first one is quadrant 2

#

what is my anwser suppose to look like

lusty sentinel
#

you're supposed to make a triangle in that quadrant of the unit circle

#

and then use the information to make a right triangle

lusty sentinel
obtuse pebbleBOT
#

@fresh bay Has your question been resolved?

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed due to timeout

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Available help channel!

Send your question here to claim the channel.

Remember:
Ask your math question in a clear, concise manner.
Show your work, and if possible, explain where you are stuck.
After 15 minutes, feel free to ping <@&286206848099549185>.
• Type the command .close to free the channel when you're done.
• Be polite and have a nice day!

Read #❓how-to-get-help for further information on how to ask a good question, and about conduct in the question channels.

late roost
#

Quick question:

obtuse pebbleBOT
late roost
#

If the derivitive of 0 is 0 why is it und at that point?

#

Like i understand it graphically but idk the mathamatical reason

#

The 3rd x in the first piece wise is = 0 btw this is just modeling abs(x)

civic zealot
#

because the derivative at 0 isn't 0.
If you look at the limit definition of the derivative at x = 0, then you get different values for the left and right limits. So the limit is undefined, and thus the derivative is undefined.

late roost
#

ah

#

Ok wait do you have a resource that defines differentiability?

#

like rules and such

civic zealot
#

This is the classic example for why differentiability says a function must be smooth and continuous to be differentiable.

late roost
#

I cant find one

civic zealot
#

any calc book would have it.

late roost
#

Alr bet thank you

#

.close

obtuse pebbleBOT
#
Channel closed

Closed by @late roost

Use .reopen if this was a mistake.

late roost
#

ok wait

#

.reopen

obtuse pebbleBOT
#

late roost
#

Limit as x -> 0 of -x is 0 (left)

#

and of right is also 0

civic zealot
#

for |x|, yes. Not the derivative limit though.

late roost
#

ahhhhh

#

So if i wanted to prove this to myself mathamatically

#

how would I show it

civic zealot
#

you basically get $lim_{h\to0} \frac{|h|}{h}$ which goes to 1 for h>0 and -1 for h<0
So the left and right limits disagree.

warm shaleBOT
#

Zybikron

late roost
#

Ok but whats the reason for even taking the limit, for a function to be differenciable does the limit need to exist at that point too?

#

Or is that just continunity

civic zealot
#

if $f(x)$ is a function, then the derivative of $f(x)$ at $x=a$ is $f'(a) = \lim_{h\to 0}\frac{f(a+h) - f(a)}{h}$.\
here we have a = 0

warm shaleBOT
#

Zybikron

late roost
#

h is just deta(x) right

civic zealot
#

yes

late roost
#

ok so breaking this down

#

what would delta x be in this case

#

oh

civic zealot
#

the value we're taking to 0 for the limit

late roost
#

it would be |x+h|

#

so |x+h| - |x|

#

over h

civic zealot
#

yes

late roost
#

and take that limit to 0

#

one sec ill work it out

civic zealot
#

since we only care about the x = 0 point, you can just plug in x=0 into that fraction

#

yes

late roost
#

forget i said that

#

I plugged it in for x

#

by mistake lmfao

#

ok it would be 0/h

#

or 0/0

civic zealot
#

no. It would be |h|/h

#

and then the limit as h goes to 0

late roost
#

so just 0 / 0

civic zealot
#

which is indeterminant. That doesn't tell you anything.

late roost
#

you cant h'lopitals it

civic zealot
#

you'd need to do the derivative of |h|, which is the problem to begin with.

late roost
#

ok sorry im more lost

#

just to break it down

#

The def of a derivitive is this:

#

so we are trying to define it a f(0)

civic zealot
#

yes

late roost
#

which leaves us with this :

#

we cant h'lopitals it because it would just keep being 0/0?

civic zealot
#

you'd need to take the derivative of |h| at 0, which is the problem you're trying to solve.

late roost
#

ok going back what does h represent

#

is it legit the derivitive

#

like slope of x

civic zealot
#

yes.

late roost
#

ok that makes much more sense

#

sorry lol thank you for the patience

civic zealot
#

I'm saying, to do l'hopital. You have to do the derivative of the top and bottom of |h| / h
So you'd need to find the derivative of |h|, which is the problem you started with (finding the derivative of |x|)

late roost
#

Yeah i get it

#

so just to make sure

#

h = delta(x) = derivitive of f(x)

civic zealot
#

no

late roost
#

oh