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royal basin
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answer my question:

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are you able to apply the formula that they give you

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yes or no

vital frigate
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yes

royal basin
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ok

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then you're able to do the problem yourself.

vital frigate
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Ill answer it can you check it if its right?

royal basin
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sure...

vital frigate
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this is my answer

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this process is what I've learned from my friend and im bothered if the steps I applied was wrong

royal basin
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where did 0.166 come from?

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you screwed up your arithmetic for sure.

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you used a calculator, yes?

vital frigate
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yea...

royal basin
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ok

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then...

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why didn't you just calculate $2 \times 3.14 \times \sqrt{\frac{4.0}{9.8}}$?

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royal basin
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there is no "process" to "learn" here. it is literally just plug and chug.

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forgot to say, thank you ann

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clear kraken
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how do you implicitly differentiate this?

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clear kraken
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$\frac d {dx} (2xyy'')$

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Kalgar

clear kraken
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What is the solution?

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I believe I need to use three-way chain rule

dusky light
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is y given?

clear kraken
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not

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just abstractly

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Do I need to "append" a y' term to EVERY term in the product rule?

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I

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'm so confused

fallow plank
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Is y=y(x)

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It is

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So

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Just start writing the product rule

dense imp
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are you confused by how you would apply product rule to a 3 way multiplication first of all?

dusky light
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(2xyy'')'=2(xyy'')'=2(x(yy'')'+yy'')=2(x(y'y''+yy''')+y'y'')

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👽

dusky light
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smth like that

dense imp
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$=2yy'' + 2xy'y'' + 2xyy'''$

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dusky light
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o

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oops i did y'y''

dense imp
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@clear kraken still here / did you figure it out?

clear kraken
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btw y is a function of x

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we are differentiating in terms of x

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so wouldn't I need to append y' terms?

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i.e. $\frac{d}{dx}xy=y+xy'y'$ right?

warm shaleBOT
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Kalgar

clear kraken
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notice how the second term has a $y'$ term "appended" to it

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Kalgar

dense imp
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so this part is supposed to be the derivative of y right?

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just simple product rule

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so what you are saying is that derivative of y is for some reason (y')^2?

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i think what you are confusing yourself with is a case where you have a more complex expression in terms of y's that you implictly differentiate, for example:

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$\frac{d}{dx}(3y^2 + 2y) = (6y + 2)\frac{dy}{dx}$

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dense imp
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where y is a function of x, here we had a more complex expression in terms of y that we used simple rules on then chain ruled the y, but in the problem you originally posted there is nothing to chain rule, derivative of y is simply y', derivative of y' is simply y'' etc.

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does that clarify @clear kraken ?

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could someone explain how these complex numbers equations work

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hey @dim gulch

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I need a concealer. Hello, I would like to know if I am ok and if not where and why. Thanks in advance !

fossil crag
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For 2b) why did the real part become 4a-7?

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And same for 2c)

unborn raven
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because we have 3a+a before no ?

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unborn raven
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because I change sides the =2 so it becomes -2. -5-2=-7 Like this I have an equation =0

fossil crag
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Why does -7 appear AGAIN in 2b) and 2c)

unborn raven
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ohhhh ok thanks sorry i’am dumb

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I need a concealer. Hello, I would like to know if I am ok and if not where and why. Thanks in advance !

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I hope now it’s good

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primal iris
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Looks good

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I might've read quickly but I think everything's good and you did understood what you had to do 🙂

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ok thank you !

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hey guys

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ok

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drowsy stirrup
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How to do this?

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royal basin
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@drowsy stirrup do you know vieta's formulas?

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royal basin
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sum and product of roots

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and for cubics also the sum of twofold products

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in terms of the coefficients

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does that ring a bell?

drowsy stirrup
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yh

royal basin
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right

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so you can get the values of α+β+γ, αβ + βγ + γα and αβγ

drowsy stirrup
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what is α+β+γ, 1/2?

royal basin
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do you mean like "what does that mean" or "what is its value"

drowsy stirrup
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the value

royal basin
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yes, it's 1/2

drowsy stirrup
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so αβ + βγ + γα is 0?

royal basin
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indeed it is

drowsy stirrup
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how do u get alpha, beta, gamma?

royal basin
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you don't.

drowsy stirrup
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oh

royal basin
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from these with some manipulation you can get the sum, sum of twofold products, and product for α^2, β^2 and γ^2

drowsy stirrup
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so is one of the roots 1/4 for (α^2)?

royal basin
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no

drowsy stirrup
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oh

royal basin
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typing out the manipulations in full will be difficult. you'd need to get some paper and like, expand out (α+β+γ)^2 for example

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not just that

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but as a starting point

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gleaming rose
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Earth exerts a gravitational force on the Sun and the Sun exerts a gravitational force on Earth.
a) which exerts the larger force?
b) which exerts the greater acceleration?

gleaming rose
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i believe that the sun exerts more force due to its mass?

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and is the sun not stationary?

leaden lion
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They both exert equal force

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On each other

gleaming rose
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always?

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even when distance changes?

gleaming rose
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is this due to the first law?

fallow plank
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G m1m2 / d²

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Equivalent force on each other

gleaming rose
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what about acceleration?

alpine bison
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f=ma

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so a=f/m

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may i close this channel ?

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atlas_ goes offline

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i ll wait up to 18:20

gleaming rose
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so the acceleration

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is depedent on the mass

alpine bison
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yes

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are you fine?

gleaming rose
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but not the force of gravity

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?

royal basin
gleaming rose
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i think that f= ma is alittle misleading

alpine bison
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it depends on the distance and the product of the mass

gleaming rose
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yes

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so they would be equal

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force of gravity

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but is the acceleration different?

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not equal correct?

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royal basin
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for a total of 7 more channels if need be.

alpine bison
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this discord has 30k memebers

royal basin
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don't close people's channels for them unless they're actually done and have said so.

alpine bison
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🫡

royal basin
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so its orbital acceleration relative to the... center of mass of the solar system, i guess, is that many times smaller than that of earth

gleaming rose
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so its accelerating much slower?

royal basin
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indeed

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i mean if you think about it

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the center of mass is very close to the center of the sun itself anyway

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simply bc the earth is, by comparison, a tiny pebble

gleaming rose
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that makes sense

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is there an equation to calculate orbital acceleration?

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is that what it would be called?

royal basin
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orbital acceleration from what data?

tardy epoch
# gleaming rose is there an equation to calculate orbital acceleration?

Are you looking for something like
https://youtu.be/CCsbSq9wlyI?si=-MkjhJarwQbfrIu5

This physics video tutorial explains kepler's third law of planetary motion. It provides physics problems where you have to calculate the period of Mars or the distance between Venus and the Sun using the orbital radius of earth and sun-earth mean distance. This video also provides the formula needed to calculate the mass of the sun.

Physic...

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royal basin
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yeah kepler's laws come to mind

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if you're going for a circular orbit, you might also look at uniform circular motion, in which the centripetal acceleration is given by a = v^2/r [where v is the linear velocity and r is the radius]

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formal echo
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How do I 12

cobalt shuttle
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You can manually find the first 5 terms

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u1 = 4, how do you find u2?

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Can someone help me i just have no clue how to do these things

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like i just don

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know how to get the answers for these

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balmy wind
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eg 13- put x= 0 in the equation

timid silo
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so for a on 13 it would be 0^2 + 4(0)-12

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@balmy wind

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correct

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f(0) =-12

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nimble cloud
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$f(x) = x^{5} - 3x -1$

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how would I solve this?

true summit
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you want to factorise it?

nimble cloud
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I wanna solve for x, as in find where y is 0

balmy wind
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you will ger f(x) or y

nimble cloud
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wouldn't that just give me the intersection of the function at the y-axis?

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ye idk tbh

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ocean axle
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I was tyring to solve this proble

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I don't understand why OYZ and OXZ are supplementary

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nvm it's cylic

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i got a small question about modular arithmetic
lets say i got an expression - (a^b modp)^c
why can i say its congruence to (a^b*c modp)?

brazen gorge
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wait what?

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wdym by (a^b mod p)^c?

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timid silo
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i was doing a sequence questin and i used the geometric equation

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Ar^n-1

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but the answer was using Ar^n

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and i just am a bit confused

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so i dud

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Un=a x 0.85^N-1

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U(3)=a x 0.85^2

latent walrus
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saying 0.85^2 would mean only 2 years of depreciation

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rafilou2003

timid silo
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oh if you take A=1 to be year 0 year 3 would be N4 and so it would still be ^3

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Yes

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I need to compute the expectation of X

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rancid hedge
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This was the answer

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And i dont understand where three comes from

sinful plover
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yep true

rancid hedge
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true?

sinful plover
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2 * P(X=2) won't be equal to 2 * 3 * p^2 * (1-p)

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3 is wrongly multiplied above

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thats I thought too, i think its a mistake with the calculation

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anyways i was just checking

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Middle school students were taking a test, with the max score being 15 and the avg. score rounded up to the nearest decimal is 10,4. Max figured out that he had a few mistakes. If he corrected the mistakes, he would gain 4 more points and the avg. score rounded up to the nearest decimal would be 10,6. What is the max. and min. number of students taking the test?

worthy rivet
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I got answers 14 and 39

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as min and max

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through the use of the form 10,4-Q and 10,6-R where Q and R some numbers on the interval [-0.5 , 0.5)

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I just really need someone to verify this as soon as possible

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Help would be greatly appreciated

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how can I do part A if I dont know f(z) ?

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brazen gorge
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image on the way?

dapper wagon
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sorry

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I know that z = x+iy (or I assume)

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@brazen gorge any idea of how to start it?

brazen gorge
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didn't study conplex integration so no

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How do you solve this?

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uneven horizon
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i know how to do partial derivative questions but i have completely no idea whats going on here, can someone explain?

brave bramble
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fx(x,y) ≈ [f(x+h,y) - f(x,y)] / h

uneven horizon
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what do the graphs mean??

brave bramble
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You'll use h = 1 in this case

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The left graph is the value of f(x,y) at some integer values of x,y

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It looks like the right graph is the values of fx

uneven horizon
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can i assume h to be 1 in these type of question all the time

brave bramble
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No lol

uneven horizon
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then how do i know what h is

brave bramble
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But they're giving you integers so that's the best you can do

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Smaller h is better

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brave bramble
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Sure, but as h gets larger fx gets less accurate

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So they're expecting you to pick the smallest h you can

uneven horizon
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is h supposed to be delta x

brave bramble
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Oh they're using Δx yeah

uneven horizon
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so for yy

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do i have to make anither graph similar to fx

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why is it different from mine

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so it would be (20 times cos(195), 20 times sin(195))

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20*cos(195 degrees) is -19.319

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So I handed this exercise in and got graded and comments and I'm trying to fix it
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Someone please help me solve this
Find m so that the equation has infinitely many solutions
a=5
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Can someone factorize this completely everytime i do it i get diffrent answers: 6p^2+7p-20

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Evaluate lhs first

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how to?

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when the equation has infinitely solutions

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I don't know that 😢

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Forget about infinitely solutions

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ya

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Earth exerts a gravitational force on the Sun and the Sun exerts a gravitational force on Earth.
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all that i can figure working with are these two formulas

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or

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equal in magnitude, anyway

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solve the third one pls

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does it converge or diverge

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bruh

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catGiggle what do you think?

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i tried root test

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but it failed

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now im not sure if this is in my syllabus so if u can pls tell me the test ill verify and stop wasting my time on this q

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Well there are [probably] multiple steps for this one: comparison

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how?

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like what do u compare it to

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Think about rewriting $\sqrt{n^3} - \sqrt{n^3 - 1}$ and then from that point it should become a bit easier to see what to compare to, hopefully...

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@unreal musk

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rewriting it to what?

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Well you have two square roots, if there was a way to get rid of them somehow...

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ive tried everything i can think of

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squaring them?

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like a sort of conjugate?

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so i square this entire expression?

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because if i do square it how do i balance the substitution

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Multiply by a conjugate

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oh so multiply the num and denom and try?

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let me see

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now what?

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do i compare this to 1/sqrt(n^3)?

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That'll do SCgoodjob2

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ok tqqqqqq

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There ya go happyCat well done SCgoodjob2

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They ask about the necessary/sufficient conditions for (a to b), (b to c), and (c to a). Tbh, this is a new thing to me (I'm self-taught), I've tried searching related material from google but most of them are word based problems. I still have no idea how to tackle this

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Maybe starting from there, assume that x + y = 5 and xy = 3. Are you then able to find the value of x^2 + y^2 with that information?

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Then at least a is necessary for b?

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Oh, I mean sufficient, right?

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So, then the necessary is the reverse? Like using b information to find a?

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Pretty much in this case, it’s how you do manipulations really, for example for some of these you won’t get one implying that the other must be true

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Did you find whether a was necessary for b or not yet? catThink

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@unreal musk anyway, thanks

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hello

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why is it -ln exactly

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I know how to do the solving until there

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a = -b -> b = -a
ln(11.5) = -x -> x = -ln(11.5)

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no difference?

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oh

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hi

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ik what the product rule is

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it’s just that i don’t under stand what’s dy/dx and how do they know it’s x^2-1^4

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x^2-1^4
do not drop the parentheses oh my god

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i don’t under stand what’s dy/dx
dy/dx is the derivative of y, your function, with respect to x

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applying the product rule leaves one derivative not yet evaluated: d/dx [(x^2-1)^4]

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because u cant evalute it?

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no, because it takes another step to do that.

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yeah

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ngl i tried to find the derivative my head hurt

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okay so

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it’s dy/dx because it’s harder to find the derivative compared to others?

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...

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no you're overthinking it

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this is about not doing 1000 things at once

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HEllOOO

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Is this a legal chain rule?

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product rule

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the top is already in terms of f'' but it simplifies down to this just want to make sure its legal algebra?

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Hi, I’m just not sure how to start this problem. If anyone can give me a clue that would be great thanks!

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i'd start by finding the sum of the interior angles of the whole outer shape PQRST...

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Ok I’ve got that

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alright

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so there are 8 rectangles around the edge right

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meaning that there are how many right angles around the edge

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16

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right

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so whats the sum of the measures of those right angles

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Well idk but it leaves me with 1080 degrees, and 16 ‘x’ angles. So 1080/16 equals 67.5, would that be the answer?

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Do I have to add a constant if a polynomial doesn't have one?

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wdym?

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Like 4x²+2x³-4x⁴+6x⁵

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Do I have to add a constant if I want to turn it into standard form?

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Or just leave it as it is after turning it into standard form

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it's fine

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Ahh okay

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there's no x coefficient in your thing anyway if we're going that way

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would be useless to write

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and longer to read

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So 6x⁵-4x⁴+2x³+4x² and that's it?

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yea

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if the vertical dilation for a hyperbola is negative, does that mean it reflects about the x-axis?

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ohh okay

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so regarding the gradient for the hyperbola

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it's right

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You can simplify that sqrt{x}/x to make it easier to work with, if you’re wondering…

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someone else is probably wrong

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oh then he's right

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Same thing catThumbsUp

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sqrt(x)/x is the same as 1/sqrt(x)

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Combustion

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Hello! In properties of exponential function is there always no zero and x intercepts?

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And how do i get its aymptotes?

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On the reals, no f_a(x) = a^x has a root (a f_a(x) = 0)

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Except 0^x I suppose

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How do you get its horizontal and vertical asymptotes? In exponential function

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There is no vertical asymptote, it's continuous and defined on all of R

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,w 16000(9.8+((900)^2/2))

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this is whaat i am getting, theres a lot of difference in my answer and thier's

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instead of converting velocity in m/s i converted radius in km

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i believe it is something related to units of acc due to gravity

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,w 9.8 m/s^2 in km/hr^2

pulsar quarry
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,w 16000(127000+((900)^2/2))

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but this is wrong too

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ik the motions dynamics, i just need help with this unit part

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can you just show your work without all the numbers plugged in

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should just do all the algebra and plug in numbers at the end

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ok i give me 5 mins

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here @tardy epoch

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yup yup right

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so i need to simplify it in every in MKS right?

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everything*

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MKS = meters, kg, seconds?

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yes

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Yes, you should ideally convert everything to kg, m, s first

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So that speed of 900 km/hr should be in m/s

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hm yea OK, thankyou

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PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME I AM REALLY STRUGGLING

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104?

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Hello, I would like someone to check my answer. The question states that there is a line y = kx +1 which is tangent to a circle. K is a constant. This circle has a center at (5,1) and a radius of 3. The question is asking what the value of K is

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,rotate

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If needed I can explain part of my process

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(x-5)^2+(y-1)^2 = 9 is correct

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Substituting y = kx+1

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Expand and simplify

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The reduced equation should be a quadratic in terms of x

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Since it is tangent, the discriminant of that quadratic should be 0

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manic wolf
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how do I factor x^3 + 4x^2 +x -6 without rational root theorem

thin star
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i thought you got it

manic wolf
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tried x^3 - x + (4x+6)(x-1) and continuing but it doesnt work

manic wolf
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U helped me so well with the previus one

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it was easy after i added that x XD

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or maybe im doing something wrong

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but this ones diffrent the method of adding x doesnt work

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add 3x and substract 3x

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thin star
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you see that 4 and 6?

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you can turn the 4 into 3+1

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its (x-1)(x+2)(x+3) btw

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thin star
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3 and 6 can be used together

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that's all the hint i'm giving

manic wolf
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aight wait it worked last time XD

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there are so many combinations holy moly this gonna take me a min

thin star
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factoring can be an artform in some cases

manic wolf
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I give up

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how am I meant to chose the right path

thin star
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group x^3 and 3x^2

manic wolf
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x^2(x+3)

thin star
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now how about the rest of the terms

manic wolf
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left with -x^2-x-6

thin star
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+x^2

manic wolf
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oh yea myb

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left with this

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oh wait

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I see

thin star
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i think you can see rest from here

manic wolf
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yea

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but like how tf

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am I meant to chose the right path

thin star
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lol practice

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trial and error

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you start seeing patterns

manic wolf
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like i went for factoring 3x^2 -x-6 and its just a mess

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Hi, idk how to solve 15 if you can help me, thanks a lot.
Statement : In this part, we look for functions f defined and derivable on I (with I an open interval of R containing 0) that verify: f(x) + f(y) = f((x+y)/(1-xy))
Let f be a function that satisfies these hypotheses.
14.calculate f(0) (I found f(0)=0)
15. let, a∈I with a≠0
determine λ>0 as for all h∈[-λ;λ], the equation
a+h = (a+y)/(1-ay), (of unknown y) admits exactly one solution. This solution is denoted y(h). Then show that h->y(h) is derivable on [-λ;λ]. Calculate y(0) and y'(0)

I have several leads but nothing comes to fruition.
I first thought about solving this equation :
(a+h)(1-ay)=(a+y) which brought me back to a 2nd-degree equation, but I don't think that was very helpful (or idk how to deal with it)
Then, as the lim of (a+y)/(1-ay) is -1/a
So I thought it was sufficient to choose lambda small enough so that [a - lambda, a + lambda] does not contain -1/a. But what lambda?
Or I thought as [-λ;λ] is '' symmetrical '' it contains 0 so we can choose h=0 but with this method I can't conclude about the possible value of lambda...
I'm stuck here, so if someone could help me out 🙂
(the goal of the problem is to find the arctan function so lambda should be equal to pi/2??)
Thanks

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Consider the following sums: 3 + 5 = 8 and 3 + 3 + 3 = 9. Show that any integer greater than or equal to 8 can be written as a sum of threes and fives using induction proof and recursive formula

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I don't know if it makes sense

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but its just substituting 3 3s with 2 5s for i+1 and 2 3s with 1 5 for i-1

fervent gate
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kinda confusing to me

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okay consider you're proving this for a number k, where f(k) = k

if you have 5 as a number which is a part of the sum, then substitute the 5 with 3*2. This would give you f(k+1)
if you do not have 5, then subtitute 3*3 with 5*2. This would give you f(k+1) too

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I don't know if this makes much sense, I'm not too familiar with the concept of induction but this is how it should go

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i wrote out like this

n>=8, n=3k+5m

p=3k₁+5m₁

p+1=3k₂+5m₂

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and here is where i got stuck

signal ledge
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or, you can write it p+1 as 3(k₁+2) + 5(m₁-1)

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its the same thing

fervent gate
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why +2 and why -1

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how do u know its +2 and -1

signal ledge
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open the bracket

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p+1 = 3(k₁+2) + 5(m₁-1) = 3k₁ + 6 + 5m₁ - 5 = 3k₁ + 5m₁ + 1 = p + 1

fervent gate
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ya

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hold on

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for just one second

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im still stuck on the

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3(k₁+2) + 5(m₁-1)

signal ledge
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you could also write it as 3(k₁-3) + 5(m₁+2)

fervent gate
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why k1 + 2

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yea but how

signal ledge
fervent gate
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am i supposed to figure out these numbers

fervent gate
signal ledge
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think about possible combinations that could give you 1 and you're only using + or - with 3 and 5

signal ledge
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1 can be written as 3*2 - 5*1

fervent gate
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ah

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ur actually

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so

signal ledge
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it can also be written as 5*2 - 3*3

fervent gate
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just down it down for me a lil, why are we expressing 1 ?

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is it cus p+1=?

signal ledge
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induction basically means reproving f(k) for f(k+1) if I put it blandly

signal ledge
fervent gate
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ah

signal ledge
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f(k) is defined as k

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so f(k+1) is defined as k+1

fervent gate
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yea my teacher hasn't gone through induction as functions

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so what you're saying is not being registered in my head unfortunately

signal ledge
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okay hear me out

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forget the f(k) part

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ill start with where you left it off

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alright bro

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im listening

signal ledge
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n>=8, n=3k+5m
p=3k₁+5m₁
p+1=3k₂+5m₂

this is what you understood by yourself and its well and good

now understand that we're only dealing with 5s and 3s
in induction if you basically prove that if a function/identity is true for a value k, then it should be true for k+1 too
suppose you represented p as 3k₁ + 5m₁
then you can represent p+1 as 3k₁ + 5m₁ + 1
now try rearranging the 1 in terms of 3s and 5s. This can be 3 + 3 - 5, 5 + 5 - 3 - 3 - 3 and so on
Consider 1 = 3 + 3 - 5
then p + 1 = 3k₁ + 5m₁ + 3 + 3 - 5 = 3k₁ + 3 + 3 + 5m₁ - 5 = 3(k₁ + 1 + 1) + 5(m₁ - 1) = 3(k₁ + 2) + 5(m₁ - 1)

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so here in the last line you proved that p + 1 is also represented in the form of 3s and 5s

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basically what was needed

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3k₁ + 5m₁ + 3 + 3 - 5 = 3k₁ + 3 + 3 + 5m₁ - 5 = 3(k₁ + 1 + 1) + 5(m₁ - 1)

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this part

signal ledge
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yes

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what about it

fervent gate
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nvm

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hold on

signal ledge
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its alright don't press yourself

fervent gate
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let me think about this for like

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2 minutes

signal ledge
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I actually gotta hit the bed since its 2 already 😭

fervent gate
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so we have 3k₁ + 6

signal ledge
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yes

fervent gate
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we factor out the 3

signal ledge
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yes

fervent gate
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then factor out the 5m1-5

signal ledge
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yes

fervent gate
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factor out 5

signal ledge
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yes

fervent gate
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alright

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so after this

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can i take another example

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with different numbers

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that would leave 1

signal ledge
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and then the k2 and m2 you used earlier are basically now k1 + 2 and m1-1

fervent gate
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and if i get the same expression

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we prove it

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so like

signal ledge
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like?

fervent gate
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3(k-3)+5(m+2)=

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the first expression

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if they equal eachother

signal ledge
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yes

fervent gate
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we've proven

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i

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it

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ya?

signal ledge
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yes

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we have

fervent gate
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alr ty bro

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so this is universal?

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like

signal ledge
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no worries

fervent gate
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if i get another problem

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like this

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i want to express +1

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in the terms

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of the other problem

signal ledge
fervent gate
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lets say

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n>12

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4k+3m

signal ledge
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okay

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yes

fervent gate
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4(k+)+3(m-)

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and after the + and -

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something that would

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equal

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1

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in terms of 3 and 4

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but probably wouldn't work in this case

signal ledge
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yes, so if you have to do it using 4s and 3s for n>12, you can simply do + 4 - 3

fervent gate
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ah

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yea

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true

signal ledge
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there are n number of combinations with 4s and 3s

fervent gate
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4(k+1)+3(m-1)

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like this

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4k+4+3m-3

signal ledge
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yes

fervent gate
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4k+3m+1

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=p+1

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alr

signal ledge
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example, if you had to do it with 7s and 8s
you could do 8(k+8) + 7(m-9) and so on if p = 8k + 7m

fervent gate
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yea

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makes

signal ledge
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its just making a given sum with 2 given numbers

fervent gate
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immensive sense

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alright

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tyty

signal ledge
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no worries

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Would N -> N : f(x) -> x be injective?

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warm canopy
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do two elements get mapped to the same thing?

bitter wraith
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no

warm canopy
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then it is injective

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what you've written down is the identity map and that in general is bijective

bitter wraith
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is it the identity

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f : R -> R , f(x) -> x^2

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wouldnt be injective

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f: N -> N, f(x) -> x^2 , this would be injective again

warm canopy
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correct

bitter wraith
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where N stands for natural Numbers

warm canopy
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yes

bitter wraith
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thanks ❤️

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No that’s surjectivr

bitter wraith
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true

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not every element in the codomain

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not i said

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"not every

warm canopy
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the image is precisely the things that are hit

bitter wraith
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A -> B

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injective

final thunder
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Oh yeah missed that

bitter wraith
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so basically not every element in B must be mapped

warm canopy
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yes injectivity makes no claims about what elements are hit

bitter wraith
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dumb question but

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how can i read the ":"

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here

final thunder
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Such that

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Oh wait

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Can you show the whole thing

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It’s probably something like for every positive real number y, there exists a real number x such that blah blah

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final thunder
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Yeah It’s probably something like 'because for every nonnegative real number y, there exists a real number x such that x^2 = y, namely x = sqrt(y)’ but tbh idk German conventions

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für alle y aus den positiven Reelen Zahlen existiert ein x aus dne Reellen Zahlen
also basically kannst du den : als "gilt" übersetzen

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Can someone explain the thought process for this problem? I dont understand how my teacher got this solution.

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It's like writing a/b = a*(1/b). There's no thought process of going from one to the other, there is no problem, there is no solution.

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why can i define a tuple like this

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should i just accept it tha i can write (1,2) -> { {1}, {1,2}}

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there's no simpler way if you want a set

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How do I solve this? (have to find a, b)

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sage elbow
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I was thinking of equalizing the y's but it doesn't make sense, as the line and the exponential could meet in 0, 1 or 2 points...

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sage elbow
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e^x + a = x + b

deft merlin
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oh

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wait can you show me the entire qn

sage elbow
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OHH ahaha

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the question acutally says "The function is represented in the following graph, find a, b".
But in the picture i got the graph is not there

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that exaplains all

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indeed, i was wondering how could i find a,b without any other information

deft merlin
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and what topic is this on?

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is this on contiunity?

sage elbow
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Limits but this part 'find a,b' doesn't matter with limits.
After that questions, it asks for limits.
In italian, this function's type is called "Piecewise Function"

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(i am translating literally)

deft merlin
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k have you learned the definition of continuity

sage elbow
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Yes

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why?

deft merlin
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my best bet is that you can use that

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the parameters of the qn dont really make sense

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but you can make a system of equations with the defn of continuity

sage elbow
deft merlin
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you find f(1)
find left and right limits for x -> 1
solve by system of equations using f(1) and the lim as x -> 1

sage elbow
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Never did this in exercise.
Could you show me this way of solving it?

deft merlin
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sure

sage elbow
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Thx

deft merlin
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do you have a solution by chance?

sage elbow
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No, this ex was taken from an old school test

deft merlin
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ah

sage elbow
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Use google lens if you want but it won't help

deft merlin
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yea no nvm defn of continuity wouldnt work

sage elbow
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Ok but how would it work?

deft merlin
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like the process?

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if this problem could actually be solved using defn of continuity

sage elbow
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Or, if you have a video tutorial on yt

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i could watch it

deft merlin
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gimme a sec

sage elbow
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Ok

deft merlin
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so first i checked if f(1) is defined

  • f(1) = e + a

then i checked the one sided limits for x - > 1

and we know that the one sided limits must be equal to each other

but then after that theres nowhere to go

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which is why it wouldnt work

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oh wait i messed up

sage elbow
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Pratically you are looking for an intersection of the 2 functions, right?

deft merlin
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it should be
f(1) = 1 + b
but even still it wouldnt work

deft merlin
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this is really just solving for the constants
but using this method doesnt work with this problem

sage elbow
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That's what i came up with initially but i've tought that the intersection could lead to 0, 1 or 2 points.
For example :

sage elbow
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So, without any other information given from the exercise, this ex is not solvable, right?

deft merlin
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no theres definitely a solution out there

sage elbow
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Indeed the exercise says to look at the graph (which i do not have)

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oh

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yea theres that too
but im sure theres a metthod that you could use

sage elbow
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without needing the graph

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oh

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ok nvm then if it says you need to look at the graph then uh

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probably the graph is really important then lol

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yea you right

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However, thank you for your time.
I appreciate it

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yea sry i couldnt help you find an answer

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i'll close the post then.
Thank you again

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alright np

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i know that X Unif(5,8) but i dont know what to do with that

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im very lost on 3 and 4 i dont know where to start

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hey i just have a question about numerical differention