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ohhh thats why the calculator websites didnt show anything
Instead of terms, I prefer to call them variables or unknowns
Variable meaning "changing" or "the ability to change"
Hour it works is that you want to express some mathematical concept, but you do not know all the values
As an example, "I need to raise all my prices by $7"
That's just adding 7 to whatever your original price was
But if you have a lot of different items, it could be a lot of different values
So we choose some "variable" to refer to thie original price of whatever item I choose
Then the expression y+7 says exactly what I'm doing in short, concise math terms
And it works no matter what because y can be anything
So yeah, there's no definite value of y or a or b or any variable
At least in expressions like this
just be careful on teaching that idea, because x is a variable and a term, 5x is a term but not a variable in its entirety
Does all that make sense @timid silo?
I did not know 5x as a whole was considered a term. I don't really remember the beginning vocabulary
yeah
it does thank you so much
so i can close this now
A term is a combination of decimal numbers and variables multiplied/divided together.
Variables:
x, y, z, a, b
Numbers:
2, 3, 5, 1/2
Terms:
x, 2, 3y, 25.3, 1/2, xy^2
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how would I do this 16^x = sqrt(2)
hint: express everything in the same base
so 16^x = sqrt(16^2)?
16 is a possible choice but it is clunky
better to acknowledge that 16 = 2^4 and so 16^x = 2^(4x)
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do we have to solve for x afterwards after 16^x = 2^4x
2^(4x) not 2^4x,
those parentheses aren't optional in text
well the end goal is to solve for x...
would you be able to express sqrt(2) in exponent form?
do you know about logarithm?
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Should I differentiate this first and then integrate what's left or just simply cancel d/dx? I'm confused.
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either works as they are inverses, the big thing is that you are gonna get a constant since the derivative is inside the integral and not outside $$\dv{x}\int\frac{x^2+3x\sqrt{x}}{x\sqrt{x}}dx=\frac{x^2+3x\sqrt{x}}{x\sqrt{x}}$$but$$\int\dv{x}\frac{x^2+3x\sqrt{x}}{x\sqrt{x}}dx=\frac{x^2+3x\sqrt{x}}{x\sqrt{x}}+C$$
Duh Hello
note that the 2nd term on the fraction is actually just a constant for all $x\neq 0$ so you can rewrite it to $$\frac{x^2}{x^{\frac{3}{2}}}+C_1$$ where $C_1=3+C$ and then you can again rewrite this a tiny bit further
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The smoothie chain makes multiple $0.15 increases to the average prices of their smoothies. The table shows the average profit of the chain compared to the number of price increases. The data models a quadratic function.
Increases (x) Profit (y)
25 204
60 285
105 368
132 384
155 376
172 356
200 318
254 185
290 70
Use the data in the table to answer questions 3-5.
3. Use technology or hand calculations to determine the equation for the quadratic function modeled by the data in the table. Show an image of your final answer. (10 points)
4. Using the equation from question 3, determine the maximum profit. (5 points)
5. Using the equation from question 34, determine how many price increases will cause the smoothie chain to have zero profit. (7 points)
What like… 4th time is the charm? haha
Let’s say I am selling something to you that I buy for $9
The market price is $16, but i sell it to you for $9.20, I might sell heaps but I need to sell a crap ton to make a good total profit. Similarly if I sell it for $25, I might make a good profit per sale when I sell one but I won’t sell enough for the business to profit overall. So yeah the 4th time the charm thing is just about the right price to maximise sales/profit margin. Let me know when you’re back, if I’m not asleep I’ll help
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alright, what do you need help with?
Not too sure yet, I haven’t been able to read anything the last guy said
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People I hope y’all having a nice day and fun and enjoyment learning math! 😃
Wdym? Can you clarify what your question/problem is? (Unless you’re having trouble with everything for problems 3,4 and 5)
well u r gonna have to try something
Been busy with work and everything
Ok I can finally continue on this
I need help with 3 only haha
4 and 5 I don’t need I just accidentally included them
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I can finally work
Hey @lost tree are you free to help?
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what does that mean
Thats what Im trying to figure out lol
Thats just the information to the question
I only need question 3
I do have to finish this pretty soon
Yep
Nope xD
Im the worst at graphs
Fun fact, both of my algebra 1 and 2 teachers got fired after their first year
Yes yes
Mmmmmmmmmmmhm
I believe so
The middle or something
Highest/lowest point?
I cant remember
132, 384
Cool cool
Alrighty now were getting somewhere
Ope alright you did it for me thank you
Its all good
Not one bit as I have no idea what a symbolizes
Alright
And I need 3 points?
Oh cool
plugging them in now
Ew
-180/11449
Really?
Alright lets see
Uno momento
DUUUUUUUUUDE THANK YOUUUUUUUUU
I THINK ITS RIGHT
Ok so
Now I dont know either
Its going to be off by a little right?
This is what it looks like when I plug in all the points
Yea probably
I have no idea
How do I use the equation for this?
Using the equation from question 3, determine the maximum profit. (5 points)
Crap
Can you guide me through?
this is assuming that there is a perfect parabola passing through all these points
if there isnt one you will have to use regression
okay pick any three points
assuming that
y = ax^2 + bx + c
substitute in those values of x and y in this and find 3 equations
okay
yes y = ax^2 + bx + c
Ok wonderful
for example for this point, you would write 204 = a*(25)^2 + b*(25) + c
a=-1/25b - 1/625c + 204/625
a=-1/132b - 1/17424c + 8/363
a=-1/290b - 1/84100c + 7/8410
Ok
eq1
eq2
eq3
Mhm
u can see that LHS of eq1 and eq2 are the same
LHS?
so -1/25b - 1/625c + 204/625 = -1/132b - 1/17424c + 8/363
left hand side, the left hand side of both of them is just a
Ah
that leads u to this
can u simplify this
bring all like terms together
okay lets call this eq4
now u can also see that eq2 and eq3 have the same lhs
yea
so u can set their rhs's equal to each other
Mhm
and find another equation like this
can u do that
For c?
for b?
Oh
well it doesnt really matter
i said b coz u found for b here
Not too sure how to do that
can u set the rhs's of eq2 and eq3 equal to each other
yeah
u can do this coz their lhs's are the same
like for example, if u have a = b, and c = b, clearly a = c right?
u r doing the same thing here
Yea
okay
now simplify this
b = (7768680 - 16669c)/1512060
okay im assuming ur numbers are correct
and lets call this one eq5
Ok
so now u have two equations eq4 and eq5
Equall them to eachother?
in just 2 variables
yes u can do that
Ok
coz u have b on the lhs of both of them
simplify this and u have a value for c
yes
put that value for c in either eq4 or eq5 and find a value for b
and finally put those values u find for b and c in one of eq1, eq2 or eq3 and find a
u cant have 2 c's
-157/3300c is this (-157/3300) * c
with c in the numerator?
ig u typed it wrong in ur calculator
show me what u r typing in ur calculator
Im really tempted to give up
-157/3300c maybe try typing this as -157c/3300
this is wrong
that c shud be immediately after 16669
like u shud have the c above the line
the 157/3300 thing is correct
right
c = 116(110752/448009)
,calc 116(110752/448009)
Result:
28.676281056854
ah i see
How do I write that
,calc 116 + (110752/448009)
Result:
116.24720931946
,calc (7768680 - 16669(116.24720931946))/1512060
Result:
3.8562988689959
So thats b
a = -1/25b - 1/625c + 204/625
Plug it in
Gets us
a = -1/25(3.8562988689959) - 1/625(116.24720931946) + 204/625
Is that plugged in right?
well u want the b's and c's to be in the numerator
what u have written 1/625c there for example is actually (1/625) * c = c/625
So I didnt write it right?
a = -3.8562988689959/25 - 116.24720931946/625 + 204/625
Result:
-0.013847489670972
Is that a?
yes
yes
so y = -0.013847489670972 * x^2 + 3.8562988689959 * x + 116.24720931946
Holy crap
y = ax^2 + bx + c
maybe to see if it works try plugging in a different value for x from ur table
and see if it gives the right y
Its a little off but is that ok?
by like a few decimal points ig?
that shud be okay coz we didnt put exact values for a, b, c
like the decimal points here might just keep going
we just stopped there
now to find where the profits are maximized
u differentiate this and set the derivative equal to 0
do u know how to differentiate?
Nope
dy/dx ?
No
oh well in that case ur gonna have to complete the square of this
well actually a quadratic of the form y = ax^2 + bx + c reaches a maximum or minimum when x = -b/2a
do u know what completing the square means?
like what we aleady had was ax^2 + bx + c
we can cnvert this to the form A * (x - B)^2 + C
the process of doing that is called completing the square
Ew
when u do that, u shud find that A = a, B = -b/2a, and another value for C
okay can u expand this
No
i mean remove the brackets
Oh
I’m not gonna lie my brain is literally fried
Wait the maximum profit would be 384.726 when the number of price increase is 139.242
u know how to simplify (x - B)^2 right
no
say this is the parabola passing thru all the given points
D is the maximum point that u r given
but it is not the maximum that the parabola reaches
And that’s what I have here
I just plugged it into desmos and found the point
well to find it you can differentiate or u can do this
like if u have it in the form y = A(x - B)^2 + C, what u must notice is that everytime that x is NOT equal to B, (x-B)^2 is a positive quantity
if A is negative number, A * (x - B)^2 is then always a negative number
so A(x-B)^2 + C is always a number less than C, coz A(x-B)^2 is a minus something, and A(x-B)^2 + C is then like C - something
and A(x-B)^2 + C is maximum exactly when x is equal to B
I think... I got it
okay so u got y = ax^2 + bx + c
and we want to find A, B, C such that y is also equal to A(x-B)^2 + C
u dont really want to find A and C, if we are interested in finding where the maximum is reached, we must only find B
so what u want is
ax^2 + bx + c = A(x-B)^2 + C
like u want to find A, B, C so that this equality holds
do u get it
Yea I think so
okay so can u expand A(x-B)^2 + C
I think
try
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If we have a relation which is transitive we have the definition:
aRb & bRc => aRc for all a, b and c
What is the definition of anti-transitive relation?
it appears that antitransitive refers to the property aRb & bRc => NOT(aRc)
This is for all a, b and c right?
I have to show that if a relation is anti-transitive R is not symmetric or not antisymmetric
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I got an answer that i dont think makes sense
show your steps
StopTheSkap
So
You have [
\f{(3^x + 3^{-x})^2}{4} - \f{(3^x - 3^{-x})^2}{4}
]
to consider. Do you agree?
yes
Okay
So mind telling me how you went about doing
[
(3^x + 3^{-x})^2 - (3^x - 3^{-x})^2
]
yeah write it on paper and try it out
well
you said it yourself earlier, but apply the difference of squares formula to make the calculations easier
Which would be:
[
a^2 -b^2 = (a-b)(a+b)
]
yes
im just doing it by hand
alright
from here
i got
$\frac{(2 * 3^{-x})(2 * 3^x)}{4} = 1$
StopTheSkap
its the same thing
bc you can cancel the two 2s on top and the 4 on the bottom
and get
$3^x * 3^{-x} = 1$
StopTheSkap
right?
so unless its 0
is there an answer
actually wait
there are infinite answers
because a^x * a^-x = 1
regardless of what x is
no thats wrong
because you dont add the powersa
nah
have no idea
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Stuck here. I know I need to apply the chain rule I’m pretty sure.
the negative exponents are tripping me up
-t
Also remember to multiply each term with dt/dx
1/tˆ2 first then?
i came from that step though
the original problem was s(t) = 1/t + 1/tˆ2
and your goal is to find s'(t)?
yes
well you simplified it incorrectly
ok
i'm not sure how you arrived to $(-t)^{-2}+(t^2)^{-1}$
a disappointing son
because that would be $\frac{1}{-t^2}+\frac{1}{t^2}$
a disappointing son
i took the rational expressions and made them negative exponents to clear the fraction
how did you come up with two squared terms
i agree that you should be changing them to negative exponents
that i agree with
and tˆ-2 on the right
yes
now it's just power rule
don't get confused by the negative exponents
if you need to, write the power rule out
ok
just remember you're subtracting 1 from the exponent
but it's kinda unlike what you're used to
normally you'd go 4 to 3 or something
but your exponent is negative
never mind i missed the negative sign in the second photo. the first one should be right
no forgot to move the exponent to the coefficent
coefficient
was not being careful
making stupid mistakes
o wait... using the power rule and multiplying the -1 * -t doesn't change the sign? it's just the coefficient that's moved, correct?
not sure how they came up with 2tˆ-3
i get 2tˆ-2
ah i see i have to multiply tˆ2 by -1 in the exponent first and then -1, correct? That's the only way I see it coming out to 2tˆ-3
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how do u find the range of a function
f(x)=5-7x-2x²
Do you know what the range of a function is?
range is the image?
Well its every value a function can output
Do you have a general idea of how this function would look if graphed
no
Can you identify what type of function it is?
no
Whats the domain
there isn't a given domain
Yeah sry. Its a polynomial function
Its a function in the form of the sum of powers of x
More specifically its quadratic
oh ok
Because the maximum power is two
This particular function has two real roots
So the graph is like a curve that intersects the x axis at two points
And then it extends upwards or downwards indefinitely
does this question require factorisation?
Not necessarily. If you imagine the graph, it either extends to infinity or - infinity
You have to find the minimum / maximum value
And thats the other end of the interval
i haven't learnt anything abt infinites yet
Have you learnt differentiation?
no
Ah ok. In that case you can do this
11.125-2(x+2.25)²
Y<=11.125 in that case
how do i find out that this is the answer
and the answer in my book shows x instead of y
Is the question find out the range?
x<=11.125
so basically if you have an eqn of the form a(x-h)^2, the minimum / max value = 0 when x = h
because the square is always positive
so it either always positive or negative depending on the value of a
what's h
h is just some number written as a variable. In your case its 2.25
oh
when you have an additional k (in your case 11.25) added to the equation, all the values shift by that amount
so your minimum / maximum becomes k
thats why you can say that this equation gives values >=k or <=k
in other words, your range
does this apply to other questions as well
if you have an equation and you can bring it to the form a(x-h)^2 + k, then yes.
alr ty
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did i do smt wrong?
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Q: Given that: (m-3)x^2-(2m+2)x+61-9m = 0.
To what range of values can m satisfy the condition: r1*r2 > 8?
I got to the answer: m < 5
But it isn't the right answer
show work
Using Vieta's formula: 61-9m / m-3 > 8 ---> m < 5
seems like you just multiplied m-3 on both sides
you can't do that unless you know for sure that m-3 is positive or negative
show everything you did between applying the initial prod of rots to the final result
Could you please explain? I'm not sure I'm familiar with the concept
for inequalities, if you multiply a positive value, the inequality sign stays the same, but if you multiply a negative value, the inequality sign switches
so you can't just assume that m-3 is positive and multiple it on both sides
ohh
either you split the cases into m-3>0 and m-3<0
or you graph (61-9m)/(m-3)

or you can multiply both sides by (m-3)^2; a non negative value
and then solve the resultant quadratic
yeah that's probably quicker
Could you demonstrate using a very simple example, just so I could grasp the concept?
So far I've been solving inequalities like regular equations. I did know, however, that dividing by a negative number flips the sign though
also, forgot to mention, but you probably should do the discriminant>0 thing since it has two roots
let's say you're trying to solve this inequality
you can't just multiply both sides by m since you don't know whether m is positive or negative
so instead, you multiple m^2, which is always a positive number (m^2 can't be 0 since the denominator can't be 0)
so if you multiply m^2 on both sides you get
m(2m-1)>3m^2
2m^2-m > 3m^2
m^2+m>0
m(m+1)>0
m>0 or m<-1
hmm, so you're saying that divison by a negative number always flips the sign regardless of if it's done only on one side of the inequation?
err not sure I understood
You can't just multiply both sides by m since you don't know whether m is positive or negative
this 😅
If I were to attempt to solve this inequality (the way I understand it), I would've multiplied both sides by m to cancel the division
It's multiplication, not divsion 🤔
you could... multiply by something that's always positive!
you can't multiply an unknown if you don't whether if it's positive or negative
what can you do to m to make sure it's positive... 🤔
instead, you can choose to multiply the square of the denom, which you know for sure is always positive
How come it's possible to do this in an equation, then?
should I give you another example?
Hold on, wouldn't it be entirely plausible to solve it this way if it were an equation though?
whether you multiply m or not doesn't matter if it's an equation, not an inequality
ah, I see..
So, please explain why
Sorry, I think I'm just missing some crucial information about inequalities that are hindering my understanding haha
for an equation, you can multiply anything on both sides
for an inequality, you need to be cautious of what you are multiplying by, since you need to consider whether to switch the inequality sign or not
I learned this only applies to division with negative numbers.. like /(-1) etc
So there are more exceptions?
I didn't know that
the inequality sign switches when you multiply a negative number
yeah
Pfft well I didn't know that
take this for example
good to know.
on the top equation, you can multiply -2 on both sides without considering anything
however, if you want to multiply -2 on the bottom inequality, you need to switch the inequality sign
so can you tell me what the bottom one would look like if you multiply -2 on both sides?
x > -6 ? and so the correct solution is x < -6?
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After more googling I finally understood. The more I learn, the more I realize how bad my high school teachers were ... thanks Jay, Frosst and Ramonov!
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All I need is a point in the right direction idk how to find X for this specific situation
If anyone could help that be great
,rotate
Do you know how to find mean of data points
Hint: mean is same thing as average
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Yea but not when the x is alone or without equal sign
x is just placeholder for a number so treat x as a number,
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can someone help me to prove why is this true?
Simplify the denominator as (a-b)/x
no need
I mean yeah
^
That too I guess
My thought was the $\frac{\frac{a}{b}}{\frac cb} = \frac{a}{c}$ identity
Umbraleviathan
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i thought it was wrong because the denominator should be (a-b)/x
but i got it, thank you
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Please help me in solving this problem
Lol
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Did you try changing to polar coordinates
Yes but it was not working
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could anyone help me through this proof by contradiction
wrong image >_<
i initially tried to start with letting x y and z be odd numbers
which i thought was the proper first step but i guess not 🤷
this ended up being the correct answer, but i thought in proof by contradiction we always assumed the first part is true, and just negate the second part of it
so i would actually be working with
no odd integer can be expressed as the sum of three odd integers
and then show it can
is my thinking wrong?
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So for part a, I multiplied matrix A by vector b using the dot product to get <3, 12, 9, 19>. Is that it? I'm confused by what it means by "as a linear combination of the columns of A".
Well, it's a bit hard to explain but Ab is basically the columns of A with coefficients of b
say Ai is the ith column of A and bi is the ith entry then
Ab = A1b1 + A2b2 + A3b3
I wish I could explain it more properly but I hope this helps
You can try writing the Ab in an expanded way and see the pattern
Or maybe take a general matrix A and b
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So Ab = 1<2, 7, -2, 0> + 3<3, 1, 3, 5> + 2<-4, 1, 1, 2>?
yes
=<2, 7, -2, 0> + <9, 3, 9, 15> + <-8, 2, 2, 4>
=<3, 12, 9, 19> would be my final answer? Assuming I added right
You just have to write them as linear combinations
How do you do that
like that
just use whatever notation your text uses for column
Oh okay. Then for part b, would you just dot product like I did here?
Yeah it would be the ordinary matrix multiplication written as dot product
Ok thank you!
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bro waited 0 seconds to tag
lamfao that was quick
Guess it's useful for them to know why it equals that 🤔
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it is
23*2/100
you made a mistake here
next time just use calculator
Perhaps to confirm?
Yeah they should also read rules perhaps 😂
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https://www.wired.com/2009/09/how-high-does-a-bullet-go/ so I want to replicate this article but I don't know how to connect these calculations together
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how to calculate area of triangle
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r is 6cm and theta is 0.55 radian
please help!
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Looks good to me.
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help 7 25.4 mg/mm3 a gr/m3
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What did i do wrong?
hey guys i just wanna solve this for my friend
What grade are you in
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How would I factor this polynomal
At a glance it looks like you could factor in groups if you rearrange a couple terms
alr lemme try that
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im confused. What terms do I rearrenge them in?
Notice that three terms have a factor of -y^3
yea I factors those terms got -y^3(x+5)^2
yea thats my mistake lemme fix it and I will get back to you with answer?
sure
I finished. Is this correct?. (x+5)^2(2x-y)(4x^2+2xy+y^2)
thanks
np
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Please help me answer these problems, these were my past worksheets that i forgot to answer. I really need to review for the test so please help me. Thank you.
lemme find my worksheet
For 5, try to disprove any of the 3 statements to eliminate A,B,C, or D.
i think the answer is B
im not sure
im trying to compute
it
whats ur solution
there different
angles
so yea
1 is wrong
@bold bane 1 is wrong right?
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i think B is correct
You just said I is not true so how could B be the right answer. 🤔
Is the second statement true or false?
So the first and second statement are not true. What about the third statement?
correct
So which answer should you pick?
C
C says the first and third statement are true.
But you already said the first statement is false.
Yes.
uhuh
Given that ST and SR is of equal length, what can you say about the angles STR and SRT?
there also equal
So if RST is equal to 80 degrees, what do STR and SRT equal?
160
What is the sum of the angles in a triangle?
The sum of the angles in a triangle is 180 degrees.
mhm
You are given RST as 80 degrees, what must STR and SRT sum to?
50
So you are trying to find angle QRS. You have one part of the angle. You now need to find the other part of that angle.
How could you do that?
ok
so
180-50
so that
its
130
on R
then U is 130
also
Q and T is 50
U and R is 130
right?
Wrong vertices but you have the correct angle measures.
no
The opposite angles in a parallelogram are equal by definition of a parallelogram.
So Q and T are equal and U and R are equal.
We can use that fact to find the angle QRT.
Which you can add to angle SRT to find angle QRS.
whats the answer tho
We don't give out answers on here. We try to teach you how to solve the problem yourself.
You have all the information you need.
okay so the answer is 130
right?
because
Q is 130 leading to S
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Hello
I need some helo with Transformations
We have had 3 and My schoolmates sent me this peace of paper
I’ve been sick and Don’t understand
The notation eay of it
If it’s described in words, it’s really simple, but like how can you tell when the function will be stretched or the other way around
This is what I got from them, but I can’t really do anything
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Please help me, I’m sooo desperate
Yes our math teacher is quite special indeed
But that’s not the point
Look at the exercises please
The formula for vertex?
Bro
Like I mean I know the Discriminant and that type of studd
Yea, but like I just don’t really understand translations in general
yup that's understood
And you have the answer
if We have the first excersise
y=x2+5, what does the +5 do to you function
like it either streches
or the opposite of it and I just don't know these kind of rules
<@&286206848099549185> can you help me with this peace of paper, please
Can we start with the 1st one?
y=x2+5 and what does the +5 do in this case
@valid palm +5 will shift the graph 5 points upward on the y-axis
Yeah but how can we do that, can you please guide
I made it so anyone with link can edit the page
This will be the new graph
Ok
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im confused on how solve more
i am trying ACD ~ BCE through ~SAS
i have the one side, but unless theres a theorem that proves the bottom section proportional, it wont work
SAS doesn’t work here, since it’s asking for similarity, not congruency
SAS proves congruency
no but theres a SAS similarity theorem
my geo teacher taught us
it requires proportional sides
yeah, congruent triangles are always similar, but similar triangles aren’t always congruent
and congruent angles
oh yeah that works