#serious-discussion

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calm vessel
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Are they just solipsist in disguise then?

summer nest
calm vessel
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That's not the philosophical definition

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The philosophical definition is apparently that nothing exists

summer nest
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Ohh

summer nest
calm vessel
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Which is literally just solipsism I guess

calm vessel
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But that's stupid. What does it mean for them to say nothing has meaning?

blazing pawn
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are we talking about mereological nihilism

calm vessel
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Not now

blazing pawn
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"nihilism" is an ill defined term without any qualifiers

summer nest
calm vessel
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Ah

summer nest
calm vessel
blazing pawn
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Not necessarily

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Existential nihilism is real

calm vessel
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And that is 👀

summer nest
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There's no inherent grand purpose

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We just exist because we do

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😌 hmm yes 14 year old's ultimate copium

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@dull salmon On the scale of 1 to Walter, how sussy are you being today? stare

blazing pawn
# calm vessel And that is 👀

I mean I think there is legitimate reason to be skeptical of the notion that meaning value and purpose are intrinsic properties of objects

calm vessel
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I mean the confusion for me is

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What does it mean for meaning to be intrinsic or not??

blazing pawn
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hahahhahaha

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lmfao

calm vessel
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It's just words unless it's defined yea?

summer nest
blazing pawn
calm vessel
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That's intrinsic

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I like it

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I'll give it

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What about meaning?

summer nest
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I thought of starting a shitpost conversation monkey

blazing pawn
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Are you asking what the definition of the word meaning is?

calm vessel
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Sorta yea

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What does meaning mean to a Nihilist when they say it isn't in things

blazing pawn
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There are like six trillion definitions

summer nest
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Moth counting in shambles 😔

calm vessel
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Dang

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Thanksn

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I've been rolling around in the mud but with words enough :P

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Thanks for being patient I guess xD

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Cya doods

blazing pawn
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Rortyposting

summer nest
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Can't think of a topic to talk about

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Anyone would like to say anything?

deep mango
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Ultra really said "no fun allowed"

mortal oasis
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have you ever gamed with a joycon @summer nest

summer nest
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Never tried Nintendo switch

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I have a PC with good specs though

mortal oasis
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joycon deez nuts

summer nest
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How's the latency on the joycons?

mortal oasis
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no idea i just like that joke

summer nest
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Any recent games you've played?

leaden torrent
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virgin nihilists: life has no inherent purpose besides that which we give it
chad nileists: The Nile, forever new and old, Among the living and the dead, Its mighty, mystic stream has rolled.

summer nest
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First one is existential nihilism right

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Also I don't get the hype or rush behind being concerned about windows 11 PC compatibility.
Windows 10 has support till 2025 right

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LTT made a video about how you don't need to upgrade

mortal oasis
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@summer nest i switched over to Linux so I am trying to get steam working KEKW

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I found linux easier to install cuda and it has better support for fast.ai

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also found it way easier to get my cuda drivers set up

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though I think thats rare tbh think windows has better spport

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tbh im not sure how much OS matters i wanted to try linux mostly

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that honestly pissed me off so much

mortal oasis
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got steam working just had to use flatpak

sharp mulch
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Mac and Windows users: "Yeah I just downloaded steam and it worked fine"

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Linux users: "I've been trying to get steam to work for a few hours and I keep finding different tips online and it finally worked but I needed to install an additional package but it was easy"

vagrant kestrel
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"Linux is a nightmare - only 0.8% of sales - over 50% of reported tech issues"

ivory mason
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linux is good, although i never used because i'm afraid of bricking my pc and dont have a pc anymore

violet spade
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interesting i didn't realize with uefi you could actually brick your computer using rm -rf /

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only switched to uefi this year lol

mortal oasis
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it took like 20 minuts

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IT WASNT THAT BAD

sharp mulch
mortal oasis
neat lintel
cold needle
thorn brook
sharp mulch
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actually about there

neat lintel
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hellp

leaden torrent
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bad idea of the day: an ML algorithm to determine whether a given string is an actual arxiv math title

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like arxiv-or-snarxiv

sharp mulch
leaden torrent
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how tf was this wrong

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👀

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wait wtf

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they did $γγ$ instead of $\gamma \gamma$

fathom swallowBOT
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Namington

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sharp mulch
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Ok

leaden torrent
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so many things about this are wrong

sharp mulch
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Ok

vagrant kestrel
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how can 15 authors be wrong

neat lintel
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wait

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is ur pfp from five nights at freedies

vagrant kestrel
neat lintel
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shiver me timbers

thorn brook
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Bowlingball time

neat lintel
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hmm

vagrant kestrel
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I'm so scared

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neat lintel
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no look at the fifth fundamental orce

thorn brook
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All I got was impact kekw

neat lintel
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physcists have found strong suggestion towards it

thorn brook
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And “the”

neat lintel
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ooh

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tau

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it is the most heavisest type of electorn

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higgs boson are responsible for giving everything mass

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it was dicovered in 2012 in the lhc

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physics is less complicated and less scary by far in relation to maths

sacred geyser
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fifth force baby

thorn brook
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What about the graviton? smugsmug

neat lintel
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hmm

leaden torrent
neat lintel
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the graviton need high amounts of energy to detect separarelty from a gravitational wave which was discovered in 2016

vagrant kestrel
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dions were fake angerysad

neat lintel
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our technology isnt at the right standard

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hmm

leaden torrent
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thats what i guessed

neat lintel
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if u say mathematicians say so

vagrant kestrel
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the ILC doesn't exist though, it was just a collider proposal in the 90's

leaden torrent
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but i wanted it to be real

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"dion" sounds cool

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brb switching to math phys so i can invent dions

neat lintel
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physics> maths

sacred geyser
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what properties u think the dion would have

neat lintel
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no change th reaction

leaden torrent
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an ion realized as an action on SU(2)

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this makes absolutely no sense

neat lintel
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see

thorn brook
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(Shouldn’t be sullying you because I know nothing about physics)

leaden torrent
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but im sure theres a bullshit string theory way to justify it

sacred geyser
neat lintel
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string theory isnt bullshit

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its the closest we are to the truth

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of the cosmos

leaden torrent
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wrong frog emote

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but wahtever

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that works too

thorn brook
neat lintel
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are u mathematicians even trying to look at a unified theory etc

leaden torrent
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...for?

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string theory doesnt purport to be a unified theory btw

neat lintel
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i gotta head out otherwise i will be torn apart by you guys

vagrant kestrel
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it's called the langlands program

neat lintel
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hmm

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i know it doesnt

leaden torrent
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it does attempt to explain quantum gravity

neat lintel
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yes

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yuck a chemist

leaden torrent
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but for string theory to be a unified theory it'd first need to be internally unified

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rather than the status quo of there existing 500 million string theories

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with slightly different technical details

neat lintel
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yes that is what i intend to find out

leaden torrent
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and differing numbers of prefixes

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in any case, its solidly in the realm of physics/math phys

neat lintel
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yes

leaden torrent
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the typical mathematician doesnt worry about it for the same reason the typical mathematician doesnt study the works of jane austen

neat lintel
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combine the thoeretical aspects with hard maths rigour

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its beauty\

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we get

thorn brook
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Who tf is Austen?

leaden torrent
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im not sure "beauty" is how id describe string theory

neat lintel
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my god

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austen is a famous

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novelist

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pride and prejudice

leaden torrent
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"just add dimensions until the math works out"

sharp mulch
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Jane Austin?

leaden torrent
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"trust me bro"

neat lintel
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haha

thorn brook
neat lintel
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there are lik 10 dimesion s or 9

blazing pawn
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If you want to learn physics have you considered just learning physics

sharp mulch
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Oh oops Jane Austen

thorn brook
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Who is that lmao

neat lintel
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with one added more of being time

blazing pawn
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An author

neat lintel
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imagine if there are multiverses

blazing pawn
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Fosur

sacred geyser
neat lintel
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what will i be doing now over there

blazing pawn
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How do you know that string theory is the closest we are to understanding the cosmos

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If you dont know math or physics

limber perch
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no he does

vagrant kestrel
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wait are dions a DN joke

limber perch
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he's just faking

sacred geyser
neat lintel
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wdym im faking

sacred geyser
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perhaps

limber perch
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you tell me

neat lintel
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maybe i am

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maybe im not

thorn brook
neat lintel
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but believe me when i get in the field we will see if i complete my goal

blazing pawn
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I just dont understand why you have set all these goals when you dont know anything about the things you want to do

neat lintel
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@blazing pawn but do u know enough maths and physics to even harmonise string theory concepts

blazing pawn
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What

leaden torrent
neat lintel
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no im 16 for gods sake

limber perch
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boom roasted

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you really got him there

leaden torrent
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is this where i whip out

thorn brook
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Got em

leaden torrent
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the 1 paper i ""published""

neat lintel
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how do u except me to know everyhting

leaden torrent
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in undergrad

neat lintel
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haha

blazing pawn
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I dont expect you to

limber perch
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yes this is when you whip it out

blazing pawn
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I just find it strange that you talk so authoritatively about these subjects

neat lintel
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so u saying i cant dream

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yes because im in every right to be curious

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abut the universe

vagrant kestrel
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has popsci gone too far?

blazing pawn
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But you dont ask questions you make statements lol

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"string theory is x"

thorn brook
limber perch
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what how is munkres popsci

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i assume you're talking about his topo book

blazing pawn
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Its a joke

neat lintel
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yes but if i make the wrong statements correct me , im happy whein im told im wrong rather than being supposedly right

blazing pawn
thorn brook
blazing pawn
limber perch
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lmao

neat lintel
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i said string theory is a contender for unifed theory but its mainly based on how a person views the world and it really depends on how the world actually is

blazing pawn
leaden torrent
limber perch
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I thought you were referencing the "how many holes does a human have" video

blazing pawn
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so true

leaden torrent
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string theory is certainly not "based on how a person views the world"

thorn brook
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But how many holes do a human have tho

leaden torrent
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it fucks with intuition even harder than regular QFT

nimble shuttle
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string theory is certainly not "based

limber perch
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now this is popsci

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vagrant kestrel
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learning about eyeholes has made my life noticeably worse

neat lintel
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well in theory how about if the particles werent made up of strings

blazing pawn
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I feel like most of these things you say dont mean anything

leaden torrent
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the one thing i dont like about those "how many holes" things is that they posit that mathematicians have one canonical way of counting holes

neat lintel
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people dreamt of supersymmetric particels

leaden torrent
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and for some reason this way is ALWAYS topological

neat lintel
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cause it matched predicitons

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but no has dicoverd supersymmetry for all partices

leaden torrent
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i have

neat lintel
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hmm

sacred geyser
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qft already makes my head hurt idk if id want to read abt string theory

leaden torrent
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i woke up one morning and was like "dude, all particles are susy"

limber perch
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i can confirm "no has dicoverd supersymmetry for all partices"

thorn brook
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Like betty numbers or something?

neat lintel
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ok

leaden torrent
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wait wait

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supersymmetric = susy

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= sussy????

thorn brook
sacred geyser
neat lintel
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oh no

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u killedd it

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imma head out

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gn

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all

thorn brook
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Good night!

blazing pawn
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chemfinal why are you in the amongus discord server...

sacred geyser
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the emotes are great

vagrant kestrel
sacred geyser
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no please it was the supersymmetry i saw the particle vent

sharp mulch
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sun5o

sacred geyser
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red actin kinda sun5o

neat lintel
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im gonna ask one more question before i cut

leaden torrent
blazing pawn
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!ban namington

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,ban namington

fathom swallowBOT
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You don't have the required permissions to ban members here!

neat lintel
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!ban moth in shambles

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,ban moth in shambles

fathom swallowBOT
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You don't have the required permissions to ban members here!

neat lintel
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very lucky indeed

leaden torrent
thorn brook
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sullying your own post is realshit

leaden torrent
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this emote is the most hilarious thing if you get the reference

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but alas

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this server too uncultured

neat lintel
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hmm

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this server is uncultred

sharp mulch
neat lintel
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it needs a bit of brightnening up

blazing pawn
nimble shuttle
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symmetric baka

leaden torrent
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this one is good too

blazing pawn
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Namington...

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Do you play ffxiv...

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the more i learn about you the more disappointed i am

leaden torrent
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im sorry i have good taste sloth

neat lintel
blazing pawn
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you literally play eroges and mmos

neat lintel
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whose in shmables

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moth is

leaden torrent
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exactly

neat lintel
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lol

cold needle
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moth is in shambles

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trembling at namington's strange taste in video games

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i too am trembling but only because it is cold here

blazing pawn
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Idk if trembling is the right word

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Do people "tremble" in disgust

thorn brook
cold needle
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coiling

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maube

leaden torrent
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sloth you just refuse to understand true art

cold needle
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oh recoil

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brunon

leaden torrent
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also sloth

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you immediately recognized that as specifically an ff14 icon

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rather than anything else

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says more about you than it does me tbh.

blazing pawn
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SHUT UP

light needle
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oh yo moth

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wanna do some non-commutative algebra memes

blazing pawn
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Not this very second

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But in general maybe

leaden torrent
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now the real question is

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dps tank or healer

light needle
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sadge

blazing pawn
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I do not play ffxiv!!

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But in mmos in general healer

leaden torrent
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answer the question

blazing pawn
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support >>

leaden torrent
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ok good taste

sharp mulch
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Oh yeah playing supports is fun

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I'm in a dnd campaign right now where I'm playing a wizard with no attacking spells

cold needle
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i play engineer in tf2 because i am horrible at everything else

sharp mulch
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Of course, this isn't quite a support

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Bards are supports

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Non-attacking wizard is just a useless twink

leaden torrent
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mmos are the only games i like playing healer in because theyre the only genre that try and make healer actually interesting

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like i really dislike playing as medic in tf2 for example

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its basically just "stay out of sniper sightlines, click wounded people, and pop uber every few minutes"

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obviously at a top level theres more to it than that

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but its still not my jam

sharp mulch
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Healer in dota 2 is hard

leaden torrent
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mmo healing is basically resource management sim

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ill admit i dont know how mobas work

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like at all

sharp mulch
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Oracle: delay both healing and damage, hope you outheal the enemy

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Phoenix: heal teammate while killing yourself

blazing pawn
cold needle
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i can do that too

blazing pawn
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No

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Silence

cold needle
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Cope

leaden torrent
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i feel like 99.9% of the skill in medic is just positioning

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which admittedly is the part of shooters i'm worst at

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except like, aim

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...okay maybe im just bad at shooters

cold needle
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its ok me too

blazing pawn
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idk what the skill is but the blutsauger is fun

leaden torrent
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thats one thing i wish more shooters copied from tf2 though, you have different types of projectiles/aiming

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like in most modern fpses, everything is hitscan

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click target to kill them

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tf2 has some of that but it also has a lot of projectiles

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with different behaviours

blazing pawn
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But I mained mei in overwatch

leaden torrent
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not to mention the whole melee sidegames

blazing pawn
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because i enjoyed ufcking with people

leaden torrent
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adds a lot of variety imo

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i understand why they dont have it, projectiles fucking suck from an online multiplayer standpoint

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really hard to make them work right

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but tf2 manages pretty well

cold needle
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the projectiles that come from this

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are fucking awful

leaden torrent
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okay yeah the pomson's ass

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no doubt about that

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i mean rockets/grenades and stuff

cold needle
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otherwise i see your point yes

leaden torrent
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medic projectiles

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although medic projectiles are coded weirdly apparently

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syringes are coded as hitscan but act like projectiles

blazing pawn
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medic projectiles are epic

leaden torrent
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because valve is competent developer

inner finch
cold needle
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i tried playing tf2 a week ago

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it was not fun

leaden torrent
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anyway this causes weird latency with aiming syringes

cold needle
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maybe i should try a community server

blazing pawn
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I havent played tf2 in so long

cold needle
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and not the casual queue

inner finch
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yeah haven't played in so long either

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the community is uh

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kinda ass

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🧠

leaden torrent
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that nothing else has

inner finch
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mebe it's just bcs of the servers i end up getting are bad

leaden torrent
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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i do get the impression that server choice matters

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since tf2 is so massive

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and so many communities have existed for a literal decade

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and developed their own subcultures

inner finch
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mathcord tf2 community when

cold needle
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👀

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cursed idea

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but if you ever need an engineer i am here

inner finch
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😎

blazing pawn
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did my firefox just crash...

inner finch
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maybe

cold needle
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f

blazing pawn
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Cringe

inner finch
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fireforx kdinga based dotho!! 🤨 🤨

blazing pawn
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Namington

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if the basic open sets of an affine variety are under the structure sheaf sent to the localization A_f for some f in A

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and theyre also intersections of A_p for a prime ideal p of A

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every A_f is the intersection of some A_p right

dreamy quartz
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And I took that personally

feral leaf
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Nihilism as a whole is stupid

limber perch
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life as a whole is stupid (and meaningless)

mortal oasis
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if life is stupid it has meaning

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checkmate

leaden torrent
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im glad i have the takes of SIR.SAVAGE from Math Discord to inform my philosophical worldview

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dunno what i'd do without them

deep mango
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Did SIR.SAVAGE tell a single lie though?

inner finch
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homophobes make me lose my mind

meager sonnet
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Y'all seen this?

rancid meadow
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crypto people are insane

nimble shuttle
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would you believe them?

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rancid meadow
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that literally looks a picture of the anchors for a fox news show

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I wish people would stop using the phrase "I accept the axiom of choice" or "I reject CH".

If Platonism is right, then what you accept or reject is irrelevant.

If Platonism is wrong, what does it mean to accept an axiom, accept it as what?

There is no third option.

nimble shuttle
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someone is going to make a bitcoin religion at some point

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I wonder if it's already made

meager sonnet
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Bitcoooonnnnect

inner finch
neat lintel
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the problem is 99.9% of people that are into crypto don't even know what it is or how it functiosn

rancid meadow
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i feel assaulted by ur pfp

scenic narwhal
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:jesse:

cold needle
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mildlocks

scenic narwhal
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milia catblush

rancid meadow
deep mango
rancid meadow
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There is no third option.

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just want to let u guys know that you are sullying choice enthusiast Asaf Karagila

mortal oasis
neat lintel
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would take too much

mortal oasis
modest rune
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I mean

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You can notice that problem

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While also not knowing how it works

errant kiln
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How does crypto work though? stare

modest rune
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Magic

mortal oasis
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3B1B has a good video on it

errant kiln
mortal oasis
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If you are being serious

errant kiln
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Too lazy to open browser.

mortal oasis
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KEK

modest rune
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It works by setting fire to the Amazon rain forest in return for magic money

mortal oasis
modest rune
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Bitcoin is more direct about it

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But yes

astral marsh
modest rune
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The third options is to just vibe

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Option*

neat lintel
mortal oasis
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Can you go deeper for me

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I want you deeper

rancid meadow
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no RP please

mortal oasis
neat lintel
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cryptocurrency is a bunch of bs

thorn brook
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lmao time to re-read the proof that pi_1(S^1) = Z

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but this time I'm all alone sadcat

static loom
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just intuit

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😉

last oxide
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number goes round and round

thorn brook
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Actually, the fundamental group is trivial. S^1 is homeomorphic to a single point, so the fundamental groups must be isomorphic. The fundamental group of a point is trivial. QED

neat lintel
vagrant kestrel
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my wrapped vacuum cord manages to knot itself when I look away so

neat lintel
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kek

thorn brook
neat lintel
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wat

thorn brook
neat lintel
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which torus?

thorn brook
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No I was joking lmao

neat lintel
thorn brook
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That doesn't obviously work

neat lintel
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there is a torus which is a deformation retract of the circle

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👁️

thorn brook
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But the fundamental group of that one is Z

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Not ZxZ right?

neat lintel
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"a torus"

thorn brook
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I'm thinking of a filled in torus

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a donut with filling

neat lintel
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i was thinking of the stupid case where a torus is a product of circles, so you just take the product with only one factor

neat lintel
ember finch
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This is not true right? The bouquet has free grp on 2 generators as its fundamental grp

latent forge
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I thought the T^1 retracts to S^1 instead of S^1 retracting to T^1

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like a S^1 wedge product S^1?

ember finch
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Oh i didn’t see the discussion above, that makes more sense now

whole copper
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Human deformation retracts onto torus

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I am a handlebody

sharp mulch
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Humans are genus 7 though

whole copper
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Earth, wind, fire, air, water, yin, yang

sharp mulch
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wind and air

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Fascinating

whole copper
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Wait wtf

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Earth, wind, fire, water,... Hmm...

sharp mulch
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wood

whole copper
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Wood >:(

sharp mulch
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Or metal

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Chinese has no wind and has both wood and metal

whole copper
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Thermodynamics, classical mechanics, elwctrodynamics, quantum mechanics, astrology, condensed matter, experiment

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Weird

crystal stream
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what is the fundamental group of a human body

sharp mulch
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astrology

limber perch
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wood is earth

sharp mulch
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?

whole copper
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C a r b o n

sharp mulch
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Isn't the Earth mostly oxygen and silicon though?

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Oh and iron

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And magnesium

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Yes

whole copper
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Earth is air??

sharp mulch
#

Earth has a lot less volatile elements

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Than the average of the solar system

limber perch
#

don’t you need water for a tree

#

earth + water = wood

sharp mulch
#

Hydrocarbons escape

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Especially methane

whole copper
#

Its bizarre that theres just a little carbon sprinkled on top that makes up all worthwhile stuff

sharp mulch
#

I mean

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The amount of carbon is by no means insubstantial

whole copper
#

We live on a silicon ball

sharp mulch
#

And oxygen would be much rarer if it wasn't all tied up in silicates

#

Maybe my true calling was earth sciences all along

whole copper
#

Why dont we just become biophysicists

#

Arent u doing earthy pdes

sharp mulch
#

It's either earthy pdes or lifey pdes

#

Lifey feels weird

#

Bloody pdes

latent forge
sharp mulch
#

Wikipedia

mortal oasis
#

I wish the other channels were active in this network its such a cool idea

sharp mulch
crystal stone
#

I felt the last season was a tad rushed

#

And the dialogue could have been fleshed out better

sharp mulch
#

I

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Ummm

#

Why did you ping me about this

#

What is Castlevania

#

How is it relevant to giggle

crystal stone
#

Wallachia

#

No?

#

Castlevania

#

C'mon

#

You needed to be pinged

#

Oh wtf is this anime shit

atomic cypress
#

Advanced Mathematics
Calculus questions

#

👏

brittle aurora
#

can someone help me withmy homework

deep mango
sharp mulch
#

I see

#

Night of Wallachia is in reference to a true ancestor

torn willow
#

Is math Turing complete

toxic schooner
inner finch
#

no

neat lintel
#

is Turing math complete

tepid herald
#

is complete math Turing

crystal stream
#

Turing math complete is

#

only 19 permutations left

languid root
#

19 left only permutations

pallid reef
#

is there any good maths channel for IMO prep?

neat lintel
pallid reef
#

Ohk thx

swift crescent
#

So r/learnmath is fed up with new discords but is there a financial math discord? I see multiple links from that sub but each one is just another general math discord...

#

Lol I got here from Reddit, where did yall come from?

#

I'm just trying to find a financial math server in here, since if I do it in the subreddit I'm gonna get flamed with "we don't need more posts about discord servers"

toxic schooner
#

lol

thorn brook
#

I have no idea how I got here lmao

sleek wing
#

maths subreddits sully

toxic schooner
#

i remember exactly how i got here

#

and i have also said it a million times

sleek wing
toxic schooner
#

Sure

#

i just randomly opened discord one day

#

and

#

ended up here

#

lol

sleek wing
#

sigma male move

toxic schooner
bronze pelican
deep mango
#

Friday night, I took some pot, had a good time and some snacks, and was then browsing on my phone.

Browsing reddit, I came across a thread on this subreddit that really got me thinking “but wait a minute, what if…”

Before I knew it I was checking out references, writing examples down on paper, trying to come up with bijections, etc. I ended up spending a solid 3 hours, until 2 am, slightly mentally impaired but trying to attack this problem and having a good time. (At that point I mostly convinced myself it was impossible, gave up, and went to bed.)

This is far from the first tome it’s happened to me, either. Does anyone else do this?

crystal stone
#

It sounds like a copy pasta

deep mango
#

Personally, I prefer not to take anything that has a direct impact on my cognition. My brain is my moneymaker, and I don’t feel that it is worth the risk.

deep mango
limber perch
#

half of ryc’s messages are copy pastas

deep mango
#

I completely agree with you, I try to look after my brain and not take anything that can interfere with my intelligence. During the pandemic I was careful to avoid getting infected not because I was scared of dying, but because there is a chance the virus can impair your brain.

limber perch
#

he loves pasta

crystal stone
#

lmao

#

One of the students in a class my friend and I were grading for wrote on their exam

deep mango
#

I was getting pretty ripped after work for a while and creating a multiplication table from scratch on a piece of grid paper. It was a good way for me to become acquainted with the tendencies of certain numbers. I started isloating patterns in multiples of numbers and plotting them to see what kind of linear pattern would arise. I have always sucked at math but I want to pursue classes in community college. I've become increasingly persistent about getting to know it because it has been my enemy my whole life. Btw, I work in a kitchen and I quit drinking 3 years ago, so keeping my mind busy afterwards is important to me lol

#

i feel bad

crystal stone
#

"Will pay TAs in beer, food, or cash for math help"

deep mango
#

because this is actually wholesome by the end

crystal stone
#

And my friend just circled the beer part

deep mango
#

but the start is still funny

#

lol

#

When I was in my first year of uni I was struggling with maths (as if I'm not now lol), and I couldn't grapple with limits, and like, what they really were, and what they were showing when they appeared.

Day after an lsd bender and I was at a bus stop, and there was a sandwich dropped on the floor being pecked at by a seagull. It just clicked

#

i fucking hate reddit so much

#

every post in this thread

#

every post in this thread is so bad

crystal stone
#

I discovered the lynchpin in my code that made my thesis work while I was blitzed on edibles. So yeah, it was more debugging than proper math, but it was still fun.

Something about the disorientation and change in perspective forces me to be very deliberate and careful, which usually works out for the better.

#

Pretty good

deep mango
#

yeah

#

it's like three quarters people who are unironically like that rick and morty IQ copypasta, and another quarter who think they're superior to other people because they're scared of drugs

crystal stone
#

I don't do any drugs due to family history - but I don't care if other people do drugs

deep mango
#

exactly the same for me

#

to be fair

#

i used to care a lot

#

but berkeley beat that out of me really quickly

crystal stone
#

LOL

#

I think what got to me was I wanted to be in a relationship for a long time, but I got constant rejections

#

No matter how hard I tried to get a date or whatever

#

Then I stopped caring, got a date, worked out now we're married

deep mango
#

very sensible

crystal stone
#

But the time I was like 16 years old up until 20 years old where I got my GF

#

or a date, or a person to be in a relationship if you prefer

#

It wasn't a super great mentality on what relationships were, and why I wanted one

deep mango
#

yeah

crystal stone
#

I think the relationship came into being at the right time for me - any earlier and I think it would have just been very toxic

#

Because teenagers

deep mango
#

that makes sense

#

i don't even remember what it's like to care about the idea of a relationship

#

like

#

i did a lot in high school

#

and there were all the silly two way crushes and triangles and stuff

crystal stone
deep mango
#

i just stopped caring about halfway through my first semester at berkeley, completely

crystal stone
#

Instead of actually getting stuff done

deep mango
#

yeah

crystal stone
#

God being a teenager is awful, I'm surprised we make it out alive

deep mango
#

it's obnoxious

crystal stone
#

I can't wait until I hit 30 and my frontal lobe is mostly developed

#

Maybe I'll be able to be more productive

deep mango
#

i really think i had an overall way above average teenage experience, even if it was still nothing special

#

from what i hear from others

crystal stone
#

It's like the first time that people have the ability to think critically about things like society, mortality, etc.

#

It feels like a birth, an enlightenment of the mind. So they assume that nobody has seen what they see before, that nobody has these lived experiences other than some obscure writer they read, vlog post, youtube video, etc.

deep mango
#

yeah

velvet dagger
#

I liked being 18

#

When college came around

#

Especially 19

#

Arguably 19-20 was the best time of my life

crystal stone
#

I think in teenage years my senior year of HS up until my first year of College was a blast

#

Really developed myself physically, socially, and mentally

#

But I think now is way better

velvet dagger
#

Yeah things haven't been too fun lately so I much prefer then, second/third/early fourth year of college

#

Though idk grad school wasn't really going too much worse than undergrad until covid came around

#

Last year + change of my life has been fucking garbage lol

#

First year was set up to be pretty decent

dense belfry
#

Last year has been great from a self discovery pov, but terrible by most other metrics

velvet dagger
#

So idk hoping that third year is a rebound

#

For me it was good financially

dense belfry
#

I wasn't so lucky

#

I'm not willing to move back in with parents

#

Parent

velvet dagger
#

Understandable. My parent situation's obv different, overall I am just way too used to living alone

dense belfry
#

And I had a bad roommate situation this year

#

Damn I didn't think a pandemic would actually happen in my lifetime

#

It's pretty surreal

#

Like I vaguely heard about pandemics when I was a kid but I didn't really think much about them

velvet dagger
#

So I'd rather have been alone still, but this isn't a matter of oh they made things bad (in particular my dad's the actual best). Just that I'm used to a certain independence and living at home wasn't particularly conducive to that

dense belfry
#

I'm glad you had a good time with your parents

deep mango
#

remembering how i thought about pandemics before this is so so weird

#

like the swine flu / bird flu stuff

#

and ebola

#

it's like i actually thought of them as memes

#

and totally thought of covid the same way too until like, mid january

#

now i feel like that's really disgusting

#

or maybe disgusting is the wrong word

crystal stone
deep mango
#

just, it's a very different sort of feeling now (obviously, no surprises there)

crystal stone
#

If this pandemic happened 20 years ago

#

I don't think there would have been work from home in 2001

deep mango
#

yea

crystal stone
#

For nearly 95% of people

#

It's a testament to human engineering and society that we've come this far in so short at ime

#

time*

dense belfry
#

Yeah I'm glad that the internet is as good as it is now

deep mango
#

as bad as things are, it was still quite good timing

#

as good timing as you could get with one of these things

crystal stone
#

Another good thing about the pandemic is rethinking the work week for a lot of people

#

e.g. going in 5 times a week, driving 30 miles into work

#

to and back for work that can be done at home

deep mango
#

because we hadn't totally developed the methods of rethinking the work week, but the seeds were there, and as you're saying this forced the issue super suddenly

#

but we were actually capable of responding

crystal stone
#

Yeah, I hope many office jobs reduce to 2-3 days in person a week

#

If you have small kids

#

You need to be near them

deep mango
#

i think depending on the industry, that's very very likely

crystal stone
#

Obviously things in high security positions probably won't happen

#

But my spouse has done Amazon work from home for nearly a year now

#

There are some things that'd be better in person, but the rent we have here is 1/10th our monthly income

#

we were able to save money faster than the real estate market was booming, only because we left Seattle

deep mango
#

that is very nice

crystal stone
#

@deep mango

#

THis is the worst one

#

I took several math finals on LSD as an undergrad. Other than the symbols squiggling around on the paper it was fine and I did well on them.

deep mango
#

that one is pretty bad

sleek wing
vast surge
crystal stone
#

It was a copy pasta from reddit

vast surge
#

Oh whoops.

crystal stone
#

I do not advocate taking drugs for math finals that are not prescription. Even if they are prescribed, please be careful with how and why you use drugs

vast surge
#

Yeah, I know. I've done some prescriptions that I was prescribed for that were very not-fun; I wound up disposing of them and just not showing up to my appointments with the head-shrinker anymore.

neat lintel
#

is it bad that i genuinely thought it wasnt a pasta and you were being serious for a moment stare

crystal stone
sharp mulch
vast surge
#

That said from everything I've heard LSD is meant to be safe (when done in moderation) and is meant to be helpful with creative endeavours, and I would assume that includes mathematics.

neat lintel
#

broooooooooooooo LSD will literally change ur life if u trip once bro just try it

crystal stream
#

broo

neat lintel
#

(/s)

crystal stream
#

kill your ego or somethin

neat lintel
#

do not do this

crystal stone
#

I don't abhor drug use, people have a right to decide for themselves what they want to take and what they do not want to take - but please be aware of the consequences and side effects of what you do

vast surge
#

I mean, I have never done anything remotely illegal.

sleek wing
#

don't trip... you might fall over...

deep mango
#

uhhhh the majestic garden

crystal stone
#

I was given opiates once for shoulder surgery

#

Made me sick to my stomach

#

I think I took it once or twice, after that I just dealt with the pain

deep mango
#

literally or figuratively

crystal stone
#

Literally

#

Felt dizzy/naseous like I was going to vomit

#

Felt awful

sleek wing
#

opioids are MAJOR cringe

vast surge
#

I guess heroin's not for everyone.

crystal stone
#

I have no idea why the doctor prescribed them

vast surge
#

Real shame, it's a great song. I love the velvet underground.

sleek wing
#

heroin is like, one of the two drugs (the other being meth) that should stay banned imo

crystal stone
#

Not to mention the racial baggage that came with that

vast surge
sleek wing
vast surge
#

(also somehow the sacklers aren't in jail despite the war on drugs, what the fuck)

crystal stone
brave hollow
#

effective rehab/therapy in organized systems is rare

crystal stone
sleek wing
crystal stone
#

Give them fines?

sleek wing
#

I'd say fines

vast surge
crystal stone
#

I ain't no expert, this seems to be fairly well done

sleek wing
#

lol...?

vast surge
#

Even though they have billions to spare, the Sacklers want a bankruptcy judge to let them off the hook for personal liability in the OxyContin scandal.

brave hollow
vast surge
#

Directly from the article

crystal stone
#

And here's more, since I don't know much about it

sleek wing
#

sending weed users to rehab is like killing a fly with a nuclear bomb

vast surge
#

It's honestly way less disruptive than the completely legal alcohol.

modest rune
#

Also better for you

vast surge
#

Yeah, it's a good vice to have, as far as vices go.

#

Not for me personally, but it's done wonders for people I know.

sick burrow
#

I think we should ban any substance that affects your body or mind

#

Including all food

modest rune
#

Woke

vast surge
#

Okay yeah I was about to comment that but you got on that quickly

sick burrow
#

Probably ban water too. Maybe even air.

sleek wing
neat lintel
#

ban living

vast surge
sleek wing
#

if no one lives... nothing bad happens! the perfect solution

vast surge
#

Death to humanity

#

Proof of RH? There's nobody around to say it's false, therefore it's true, QED.

sleek wing
#

^

vast surge
#

Humanity going extinct will make math a lot easier

sleek wing
#

think that's one of those "axiom" things

vast surge
#

Everything will be vacuously true

#

Because math is a social construct

sick burrow
#

Most useful

Most useful application of formal logic

dense belfry
#

I love how in the Talmud the rabbis discuss whether it would have been better if no one had been created at all and they conclude that it would have been better

sleek wing
#

I read that as "the rabbids" and that is a much funnier mental image

vast surge
sleek wing
sick burrow
#

According to physics light is a particle which could be probably classified as a substance so reading involves the consuming of a substance that affects your mind which is why I don't do it.

#

Sorry if my physics is wrong there. I am illiterate after all.

vast surge
#

No worries. I wouldn't know if you're right or wrong at all; I don't have any language processing skills at all anyway.

sick burrow
#

I mean I can't even know anything because I don't exist.

sharp mulch
#

Rabiosexual

vast surge
#

The notion of an "I" to either exist or not exist is not even a logically consistent concept, so even the statement "I don't exist" is meaningless.

sick burrow
#

Yeah but the concept of meaningless is meaningless because it requires meaning to exist so that sentence is meaningless

vast surge
#

What the fuck

sick burrow
#

What the actual fuck

#

Whu does this exist

sharp mulch
#

Because of tumblr

deep mango
modest rune
#

Wikia was a mistake

deep mango
#

why is this being given legitimacy by the LGBTA wiki out of curiosity?

dense belfry
#

This is so gross

deep mango
#

even the article treats it as a joke, so.... why?

#

obviously it's a wikia, it's not official or anything

#

just like

#

come on

modest rune
#

A lot of wiki people pride themselves on comprehensiveness

vagrant kestrel
#

flags are a hobby for many people

vast surge
deep mango
modest rune
vast surge
# modest rune Press X to doubt

I have multiple friends who were able to discover their queerness through tumblr when it wasn't acceptable for them to do so in the offline world.

deep mango
#

yeah, i'm with bananachair on that

static loom
#

"lots" is overstating it though

deep mango
#

as toxic as it could be

#

like

sharp mulch
#

Superwholock came out of tumblr

deep mango
#

it was clearly very very helpful for some people

sharp mulch
#

Which is not a good thing

sleek wing
#

also, lol: "Rabiosexual is not considered LGBT+ both from the LGBT+ community and those who identify with rabiosexual. Although, those who are rabiosexual may claim that their identity is on the ace spectrum, in which it is not accepted by the ace community."

vast surge
#

Superwholock has a mixed legacy

deep mango
#

why do you know about this? sully

sharp mulch
#

But tumblr was also good for sharing porn

vast surge
#

My issues with superwholock are with the media franchises though moreso than the fandoms.

modest rune
#

Why wouldn’t you expect ultra to know about this

sharp mulch
#

Shame that it ended

sleek wing
#

superwholock was a hot mess

sharp mulch
#

Now it's all on twitter

modest rune
#

There porn on twitter?

errant kiln
#

wouldn't "rabiosexual" just be a fetish?

modest rune
#

Theres*

sharp mulch
vagrant kestrel
#

twitter doesn't have porn

modest rune
#

I had no idea

sick burrow
#

Also didn't a bunch of actually good gender labels come out of tumblr

sharp mulch
#

What do you think I'm doing on twitter

vast surge
static loom
#

lol

modest rune
#

Idk I just shitposting

sharp mulch
#

xiro_k

modest rune
#

Do u follow me ange

sharp mulch
#

serok

#

No

modest rune
#

U shud

sharp mulch
#

I only follow horny people on twitter

deep mango
#

whatever, that's my perspective

vagrant kestrel
#

uh oh

modest rune
#

I have a men and women link

deep mango
#

i understand some people could see it differently

modest rune
#

Kink*

errant kiln
#

link

vast surge
#

I think the argument is that those who are into kink have been discriminated against for "deviant sexual behaviour" much the same as queer folks, and thus found some solidarity in that?

deep mango
#

that makes sense

vast surge
#

I personally would consider it separate, but that's me.

sleek wing
#

it's def separate

sick burrow
#

I mean you could argue that it should be included but it wouldn't be in the same category as sexual orientation

deep mango
#

i hadn't thought about it that way

sharp mulch
#

I mean queerness already includes more than just sexual orientation

modest rune
#

Is kink considered like

#

An immutable part of identity

vast surge
#

I mean really LGBTQIA is like a bunch of things all rolled up in one. There's very little overlap between trans issues and gay issues other than that they found solidarity by working together against systems that oppressed both.

modest rune
#

Because the rest of the classifications in LGBTQA are

sharp mulch
#

Are they?

sick burrow
#

Yeah are they?

sharp mulch
#

Gender and sexuality are mutable

sick burrow
#

I don't think being nonbinary is an immutable part of my identity

#

Well it depends on what you mean by immutable

modest rune
#

I have always thought it of the process as more one of like, self discovery than one of actually changing gender and sexuality but that could be complete nonsense

#

And probably has to be

#

Now that I think abt it

sick burrow
#

I don't think it's hardwired into my biology that I'm enby

modest rune
#

Yeah social constructs like gender clearly can’t be immutable

vast surge
sick burrow
#

Well it depends on how you define things

sharp mulch
#

Genderfluid people exist as well

sick burrow
modest rune
#

Yeah gender is an obvious counterexample

sick burrow
#

I mean there's still an element of self discovery

vast surge
thorn brook
#

Lokidoki

vast surge
sick burrow
#

I've talked about this a lot on the enby server I'm on. What constitutes really being nonbinary.

thorn brook
#

If I change my name to something then it will be tinky winky

vast surge
#

What constitutes being nonbinary is identifying as nonbinary in my opinion.

errant kiln
vast surge
#

We don't need gatekeeping to be enby

thorn brook
#

Lokidoki stareFlushed

sick burrow
thorn brook
#

Ohhh

vast surge
#

Though in the comics they're very explicitly genderfluid, not arguably genderfluid

thorn brook
#

I just saw loki and thought of my name lmao

sick burrow
#

despite what the transmeds seem to believe

modest rune
#

Ugh I need a new manwha

sharp mulch
#

Have you read the ORV novel

modest rune
#

No

#

I’m only up to date w the we toon

vast surge
sharp mulch
modest rune
#

Jfc

vast surge
#

(Not that I would know - any time I have doubts about being a cis man, I just shove those thoughts deep down and repress them and don't think about it)

sharp mulch
vagrant kestrel
#

is ORV translated

sharp mulch
#

Yes from Korean

sick burrow
#

There was definitely some serious self discovery in realizing that the enby label fit for me.

vast surge
#

Yeah. In all seriousness I'm starting to think about it a lot more now that I'm at college and not living with my family and it is a massive self-discovery process and takes a degree of introspection that can be hard.

sick burrow
#

But I also don't think it's an innate part of my identity in the sense of being destined from birth.

vast surge
sick burrow
#

Based

#

I honestly think the entire way we think of both gender and attraction as a society needs a complete overhaul

vast surge
#

I actually a have a friend who's identified and presented as nb since they were like 4 or 5 and whose mothers are queer and were on board with it who I joke is cis nonbinary/assigned nonbinary at birth.

sick burrow
#

That's pretty great

#

Yeah I'm aware

#

He gave birth to Odin's horse right?

vast surge
#

They gave birth to Odin's horse Sliepnir, the Fenrir Wolf and Jormungandr the Midgard Serpent

sick burrow
#

Yeah I thought that was a case

vast surge
sick burrow
#

Wait did Loki give birth to Fenrir? Since wasn't Hel the mother?

vast surge
#

In mythology

#

Not the comics

sick burrow
#

Right

brave hollow
#

is loki the zeus of norse mythology

sick burrow
#

Yeah I got that a bit mixed up

vast surge
sick burrow
#

What is Hela's relation to Loki in the comics anyways? Adopted nephew?

vast surge
sick burrow
#

Since isn't Hela Odin's sister in the MCU?

#

Or am I making that up

vast surge
#

Hela was Odin's elder daughter in the MCU; I can't recall if that's true in the comics

sick burrow
#

Wait no she's like Odin's daughter yeah

vast surge
#

So Hela is the older sister of Thor and Loki in the MCU

sick burrow
#

Right right I remember now

#

Actual norse mythology is pretty cool though. I leaned a decent amount of it a while ago.

vast surge
#

I'm super into norse mythology.

#

(As in, I've read the eddas and several sagas)

#

(Also parts of the Neil Gaiman book)

#

It's awesome

sick burrow
#

Yeah I don't know that much. I don't know what those books even are

#

Like the eddas

vast surge
#

The Prose Edda and the Poetic Edda are our primary sources of Norse mythology.

sick burrow
#

Oh nice. I just looked them up.

vast surge
#

The prose edda was compiled by Snorri Sturlson, who was Christian at the time for a Christian monarch, so take it with a grain of salt

#

The poetic edda, as far as I'm aware, was composed anonymously.

sick burrow
#

Oh yeah I remember wasn't the Norse creation myth kinda weird

#

Like the gods got licked into existence by a giant cow

sharp mulch
#

Have you read the Saga of the Volsungs

vast surge
#

The sagas are the oral myths of the Icelandic people, recorded in the 11th century shortly after Christianization.

vast surge
sharp mulch
#

I had an Old Norse class during university

#

Where we learned Old Norse

vast surge
#

I've read the Saga of Laxdaela and it's great

sharp mulch
#

And read bits of various texts

#

It was tough

vast surge
#

Yeah in the course that I took we just read English translations

sharp mulch
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Noun declensions and verb conjugations and word order and stuff

mortal oasis
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you learned old norse in a single class stare

sick burrow
sharp mulch
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Well it was a two course sequence