serious-discussion

[languid marten]

Like the mass or charge ?

I mean they are also intrinsic and measurable physical qt's associated with matter

[storm sage]

I'm not sure what you mean by mass or charge

[bronze jetty]

We never measured spin directly
We just did experiments and then decided to mark some signs as spin and stuff
It’s a concept which plays an important role in our systems but it’s not all about magnetic moment

[storm sage]

I'm not a physicist honestly

As far as I can tell, is doing experiments to measure its quantity not measuring it directly?

[bronze jetty]

QM is a predictive theory
It’s formalism tells you probable answers
But it doesn’t tell u how it becomes like that

[storm sage]

I'm a bit confused about the distinction you're drawing

[storm sage]

What I'm not sure how this relates to what we were talking about

I'm just confused in general now

[languid marten]

Ahh I mean you said seeing spin physically as intrinsic magnetic moment, so isn't it like seeing charge as a intrinsic physical qt

[storm sage]

Oh to provide a bit more context, I was objecting to the idea that physicists should just sit down and compute things and not ascribe physical meaning to the computations

And Heterotic gave spin as an example of something where that wouldn't work

[bronze jetty]

No no no

Dude

[storm sage]

What

[bronze jetty]

Physicists are not calculators

No

Would u let me explain ?

[storm sage]

I'm so confused I said "There is a physical interpretation to the mathematics and I think not trying to give it is misguided" and you responded with spin as a counterexample

Yes please do, what is your position?

[bronze jetty]

Physics theories are 2 kind
Descriptive and predictive
Descriptive theory tells you reasons of an event and phenomena

Predictive theory says in a gathered instrument and initial condition, what results would be achieved

Now, based on my argument, quantum mechanics is a predictive theory
U have a superposition of states at first glance which doesn’t have a physical meaning in classical mechanics
Then u measure and show up with only one result

With the probability calculated from superposition

But standard quantum mechanics doesn’t tell us how it happens

[storm sage]

Okay yes I agree with all of that

What in your opinion would be a descriptive theory then?

[bronze jetty]

Newtonian mechanics

[storm sage]

See that's what I don't understand, how is that more descriptive than quantum mechanics?

It also tells you what data you expect to gather from any given experiment

[bronze jetty]

May I answer?

In newton formalism we write : F=ma

Here , m is a quantity which we measure it and it plays a role and it’s character of system

We call it mass

What the fuck is mass?

A quantity of matter which we can measure and fits in newton equation

[rocky shuttle]

We never measured the mass directly
We just did experiments and then decided to mark some signs as mass and stuff

[bronze jetty]

Now in quantum mechanics the main role is pleated by state vector

[storm sage]

This is also how I feel ^

[bronze jetty]

Yea true
It’s a convention

[storm sage]

So what is the distinction you're drawing here between mass in newtonian mechanics and spin in quantum mechanics

I'm still rather confused sorry

[bronze jetty]

Mass is inside of the matter and independent of human observation

Spin and other shits are called “observables”

It means you have to observe it to say a quantity for that

[rocky shuttle]

relativistic mass go brr

[storm sage]

How do you know that something like mass is independent of human observation and something like spin depends on it?

I don't see where that came from

Couldn't it just be that mass is a convenient quantity to track everything and it doesn't "exist" independent of human observation, whatever that may mean?

[bronze jetty]

Because once u measure the mass of a thing, you’re pretty sure its mass constant during time
But quantum observables change

[rocky shuttle]

Newtonian mechanics is also only accurate in a non-relativistic, non-quantum regime of physics, so it does not describe the "true" state of matter either

[storm sage]

Isn't it also true that spin stays the same under certain conditions? Is this like a statement about the conditions under which something stays constant

I mean even your definition of mass earlier relied on human measurement

Which means that it can't be independent of human measurement under that definition

[bronze jetty]

Mass was an example only from classical mechanics

[storm sage]

Right I know, but you presented it as an example of how newtonian mechanics is fundamentally different from quantum mechanics right?

Your claim is that one is descriptive and that one is predictive

And I'm saying I don't see the distinction you're drawing

[bronze jetty]

No it’s not fundamental difference

Fundamental difference is depending in human in quantum mechanics

[storm sage]

What, is your claim not that Newtonian mechanics is descriptive and that quantum mechanics is predictive and that those two things (descriptive and predictive) are different?

I'm just confirming what you said earlier to see if you are still of the same opinion

[bronze jetty]

In classical mechanics it’s supposed that systems have definite quantities
U just don’t know them
In quantum mechanics, u can’t tell there’s a quantity before measuring

The only thing u can do is prediction of results

[storm sage]

Heterotic can you answer whether or not what I said is still your opinion or not

[neat lintel]

QM from a non physicist's perspective is always baloney talk

[bronze jetty]

In Newtonian mechanics if u know the exact conditions, u can realize all the past of system
But it’s not like that in quantum mechanics

[storm sage]

I'm trying to understand what your claim is and it's frustrating when I can't even figure out what claim you are making, never mind the validity

Is it your claim that Newtonian mechanics is descriptive and that QM is predictive and that descriptive and predictive are fundamentally different types of theories

[rocky shuttle]

React to one pls

[bronze jetty]

Claim:
Difference of quantum mechanics and other fields of physics is dependence of results on human measurements.
quantum mechanics predicts answers but doesn’t describe the past of the system

While in classical mechanics it’s possible

[storm sage]

Okay so I think you've changed from descriptive vs predictive to "is the theory deterministic?" i.e. can you predict the future precisely given perfect knowledge of the past?

[bronze jetty]

We can’t afford a clear picture of quantum system before measuring an observable

[storm sage]

Is that the distinction you are making between Newtonian mechanics and QM

[neat lintel]

from the way he phrased it, he's saying classical mechanics can describe the past from the current state while QM can't

[bronze jetty]

No
I don’t talk about determination argument
Although it’s near to thing I’m talking

[neat lintel]

which doesn't seem related to determinism

[storm sage]

So you're saying that the difference between the two is that classical mechanics is reversible while QM isn't?

i.e. you can know the past from a present observation

[bronze jetty]

Third time :
Difference between quantum mechanics and classical mechanics is dependence of results on human and experimenter

[storm sage]

Okay so you are saying that quantum mechanical observables "exist" (whatever that means) do not exist independently of an observer while classical mechanical observables do "exist" independently of an observer

And that's the fundamental difference between the two that you are drawing

[bronze jetty]

Now it’s a philosophical argument but yes, at first step it seems true
If we consider a simple case of thinking

[storm sage]

How is it just now a philosophical argument, the argument hasn't changed at all

😭

I've just been asking clarifying questions about your claim

[bronze jetty]

May i ask sth?

[storm sage]

Sure

[bronze jetty]

U can use reduction method in classical mechanics
Right?

U can’t do it in quantum mechanics

[rocky shuttle]

What's that?

[bronze jetty]

U divide system to smaller parts
Investigate each part lonely and finally stick all of them together
Like simple questions of classical mechanics

[storm sage]

No you can't because every particle potentially influences each other

For example an n-body problem

[bronze jetty]

Dude
I mean pulley or ropes and these shits !

All the classical physicists do it every day

[storm sage]

Huh

[bronze jetty]

How ever

In classical mechanics u measure 2 different quantities like X,P

Measuring x doesn’t violate p

But it happens in quantum mechanics

And measuring process changes the quantity

Measuring process in classical mechanics won’t violate the system characteristics

But in quantum mechanics it happens

[storm sage]

How do you measure the speed of something in classical mechanics without changing the speed

I'm so confused

[bronze jetty]

U set 2 locations and measure time of travel between 2 locations

Speed is distance divided to time

U even don’t touch it

[storm sage]

Yes but you see that measuring the location of something requires affecting it in some way?

Even in Newtonian mechanics

[bronze jetty]

No it’s ok

[storm sage]

What

How do you propose to measure something without affecting it

[bronze jetty]

Let’s tell it in another way

[storm sage]

Okay with all due respect I can't continue this conversation any longer, as the goalposts keep changing

[bronze jetty]

U have a ball which has location of 10 then u measure speed of that and u see 20
In classical mechanics if u measure location again, u should report 10 or about 10, true?!

But in quantum mechanics when u measure location again, u get completely another value

Here we claim that measuring speed cleaned information of location

Like Estern-Gerlach experiments on spins

[storm sage]

I understand the quantum mechanics here, but I don't wish to continue this argument as I can see it won't get anywhere

[bronze jetty]

Maybe it’s because of my weakness in English

But I can tell some reference

Take a look at :
“On physics and philosophy”
Written by Bernard Despagnt

[flat harbor]

i read thru like 5 paragraphs of this and none of it is well versed discussion

[bronze jetty]

Sorry guys

I didn’t wanna do this

[bronze jetty]

How ever, yes, determinism is one of the points too

[bronze jetty]

R u from Iran ?

Because I am, I’m from Iran

[void tundra]

[neat lintel]

Why is this the case?

[storm sage]

Because the measuring instrument has to interact with the particle in some way (for example via a light beam)

At least from my understanding of Newtonian mechanics, this means that the particle changes its state slightly

[untold sage]

I don't think light hitting a particle produces force

Newton probably didn't care about such things at the time

[storm sage]

Newton thought that was light was a particle

So eh I guess not quite sure

[steep basin]

yall know what math means?

[zealous garden]

So how does a solar sail work

Mass or no mass, the photon has energy and momentum content, which is transferred when it is absorbed

Likewise a photon emitted must take its energy and momentum from something

I don't actually know physics though

[flat harbor]

nondeterministism and uncertainty are different concepts

"particles are knocked around by electrons in observation" does not imply anything about the determinism of the theory

[flat harbor]

measuring location affecting the particle doesnt imply its indeterministic either since in principle we can track where the particle always is by knowing the info of the initial "light beam" or whatever u use

the idea abt "low energy light not measuring position" and "high energy light not measuring momentum" is a reason that contributes to the uncertainty of position and momentum

but not its lower bound, which exists in quantum mechanics but not in classical

oh yea and qmech is deterministic under time evolution and the indeterminism only rly matters in wave function collapse

[neat lintel]

Too many big words with a lot of syllables

I learned new words today

Es ist morbinische Zeit

[neat lintel]

Ich werde deine Ochsen desinfizieren. Guter Herr, gib mir jetzt deine Hosen und Unterwäsche, damit ich diese Cojones freimachen kann

DO NOT TRANSLATE THST FOR YOUR OWN SANITY

[bronze jetty]

Hello guys

[surreal sapphire]

stop trolling

[solid yarrow]

Hey, what's up?

[bronze jetty]

Fine
How about u

[solid yarrow]

I'm good, thanks for asking.

[barren anchor]

spicy so far

[barren anchor]

this is the question that gets utterly out of basic STEM depths for me

newtonian bullshit like force is change in momentum doesn't hold as applied to solar sails* on the face of it until you get into the bending of spacetime and mass-energy equivalence

and then it's resting on non-newtonian bases

I actually stopped trying to comprehend it because the stack exchange discussions on it tend to use notation that is beyond me, and the verbal expressions of it I always find unsatisfying

I am incapable of being a physicist imo

[steady owl]

Bro I'm so tired to do physics right now

like NCERT says study the concepts rather than picking up on it

Physics is easy I just dont wanna study the tables and stuff

bullshit stuff

I just wanna skip to the problems like mathematics

[torn willow]

You won't like physics

[rocky shuttle]

what tables

[wet merlin]

I prefer CS

[bright hill]

[split pawn]

Discussy-2 revive!

[pale cedar]

People, what was your biggest accomplishment in mathematics when you were in 10th grade?

[agile surge]

I was promoted to the 12th grade batch in my coaching

[fading zealot]

I first learned about calculus
I didn't know how it works but I learned about it

[pale cedar]

What does that mean?

I mean the 12th grade thing.

[pale cedar]

Also, same, but not really my top accomplishment.

[agile surge]

oh, so for my JEEADV coaching, i was with other tenth graders, but i was so good that they sent me to study with the peeps who were in 12th grade

[pale cedar]

I analyzed nearly two school books of mathematics in 10th grade, I also developed a new method to solve quadratics (It's very cringe).

[pale cedar]

Oh

Well, I'm in 11th grade who's studying for 12th grade, specially JEE.

[pale cedar]

Oh wait nvm JEEADV is just JEE advanced.

Goofy.

@agile surge @fading zealot
Btw what grade are you people in?

[agile surge]

I'm going to start my second Year at IITK

[pale cedar]

IITK?

Some engineering course?

[fading zealot]

Just graduated from college

[agile surge]

nope, BS statistics and Data science

[pale cedar]

And what's BS?

[pale cedar]

Tungsten (W)

Math community rootin for tungsten

[agile surge]

bachelor of science

[neat lintel]

But sir, its a tad silly. Also i like to speak in my second language so in my defense, its not my fault i get goofy late at night,

[agile surge]

who uses ncert for physics

[bright hill]

his pronouns are right next to his name

[neat lintel]

simply i didn't see it

is that better?

[bright hill]

yea, I was just informing you

a lot of people showcase their pronouns next to their name here

[neat lintel]

swear ong i don't see it

it just says Lochverstarker and nopthing else

[craggy gust]

you can't see them on mobile

if you're talking about the new pronouns feature

[long matrix]

#info

[craggy gust]

ohh thank you

[mental stratus]

suwwiiiiii

[zealous garden]

I'm a pro [insert noun]

[vocal vessel]

Vacuum cleaner

[zealous garden]

Yes, the floor is very clean after I finish with it

[vocal vessel]

Filthy humor

[burnt ledge]

Actually its very clean

[modest condor]

hello

[solid yarrow]

hello

[woven whale]

read artin's algebra

https://math.mit.edu/~hrm/palestine/artin-algebra.pdf

[woven whale]

doing graduate level math

[hard flax]

Math question from my exam (joke)

If Tom is 6 feet hight, what is the mass of the Sun?

[woven whale]

the pdf in the link

it's university level math but doable for a high schooler

[quiet geode]

high schooler stuff iirc

[hard flax]

Answer!!

[woven whale]

pretty much only like how to move stuff around in an equation

and a bit of set theory: see the pinned pdf in #proofs-and-logic

[pale cedar]

Explain why factoring works in quadratic.

Do you understand how factoring in quadratic equations work?

But how is it doing all that?

No, find it yourself.

Because I understood it myself after seeing the steps.

But accomplishments don't have to be dictated by me.

If you don't feel like it, tell me.

It's best if you do these for self pleasure/interest.

[quiet geode]

duh

[solid yarrow]

1.989 × 10³⁰ kg

[quiet geode]

i was bracing myself, expecting the conversation to take a particular route

spit it out now you

[pale cedar]

I also remember solving some 11th grade things in 10th grade.

But it was pretty slippery.

For us, it does.

There's combinatonics, advanced trig, calculus, vectors, matrix and so much more.

India.

[hard flax]

Correct!

[solid yarrow]

Next question, solve the Riemann Hypothesis.

[pale cedar]

Uhh, riemann hypothesis exists, hence proved.

See you.

[quiet geode]

just dew it @pale cedar

[pale cedar]

But how does having new topics delayed make indian 11th graders smarter?

[pale cedar]

What am I even supposed to do brother?

[quiet geode]

this #serious-discussion message

[pale cedar]

I am aware.

But it doesn't even matter.

[quiet geode]

[hard flax]

1/2

[solid yarrow]

1/infinity points for trying

[quiet geode]

what do you even mean by "works"

[hard flax]

Well... 'so much'

[languid marten]

*don't promote your non-math gaming videos

Or can you ? idk

[quiet geode]

you are essentially promoting your thoughts when you chat

so yeah

[tall badge]

you cant. in future when you see adverts ping mods

[quiet geode]

promotion is allowed

[woven whale]

@pale cedar you're cringe

[orchid pasture]

just sensitive

[bronze jetty]

guys guys

suppose a triangle

one line is 1, another line is "i"

and it's long side would be 0

OOOOOOOOO

(:

[languid marten]

Is this even a triangle though ?

[mental stratus]

Illluuuuummmmmmm

[languid marten]

like for it to be traingle it must hold the triangle inequality -- 1+i > 0 , 0+1 > i , 0+i > 1 ?

Which obv doesn't even make any sense

[mental stratus]

Watson

[neat lintel]

is i > 1 ?

[languid marten]

That comparison doesn't make sense

[fair mural]

the complex numbers aren’t an ordered field

it doesn’t obey the usual addition and multiplication rules of >

[mental stratus]

i is whatever i want it to be

[languid marten]

It's the imaginary unit here , i² = -1

[bronze jetty]

yes

[neat lintel]

i do not agree

[languid marten]

me too

[bronze jetty]

Minkowski space

(X,ict)

0 is ds of light space-time element

😄

[mental stratus]

:PikaCringe:

[bronze jetty]

guys

u know what's strange and wired ?

1 apple + 1 apple = 2 apples

and

1 orange + 1 orange = 2 oranges

different things! same rule

but assume 2 water drops, 1 drop + 1 drop = 1 bigger drop

[solid snow]

1 orange + 1 orange $\overset{\implies{blender}}$ 1 blended mush of oranges

Oops

pretend the word blender is on top of the arrow

[bronze jetty]

come on

[fathom swallow]

penury
Compile Error! Click the reaction for more information.
(You may edit your message to recompile.)

[fathom swallow]

1 orange + 1 orange $\overset{\text{blender}}\implies$ 1 blended mush of oranges

[burnt ledge]

Hope 5his helps 👍

[split pawn]

Does this follow the law of conservation of mass

1 orange $+$ 1 orange $\overset{\text{blender}}\Longrightarrow$ 1 blended mush of oranges

[void tundra]

\bN + \bN = \bN

[torn willow]

You mean \bN \cross \bN?

[steady owl]

I need motivation guys help me

I don't feel like doing physics today or maths

I don't feel good

[fair mural]

it’s ok

you don’t need to do it everyday

[pale cedar]

But dont you people learn those in 10th grade?

[pale cedar]

The proof of this statement is left as an exercise for the author.

IE justify that I'm cringe.

[void tundra]

i did not

[severe swallow]

anyone who knows english speaking etiquette well
if a professor sends a reply to a personal email and ends it off with
best,
name
does he want to be called by that name without the "prof." in the next email? or should one still use "prof."
also: is it rude to still use prof. afterwards or not using it?

[surreal sapphire]

what is name?

just the first name or first and last name?

if the former, thats most often an indication to use just the first name

if the latter, you should address by lastname

whether prof is important in this case depends on the person, you cant tell from an email

it certainly doesnt hurt to use it

[severe swallow]

the first name

but it wouldn't be offensive or unfriendly to still use professor anyways?

[surreal sapphire]

no

unless they explicitly tell you to do otherwise

[severe swallow]

ok, thanks

[crisp warren]

what is the square root of 100

[hexed tiger]

10

[lean trout]

10

[tepid light]

aww

[barren anchor]

guys wow I just cannot get over working thoughtfully a little bit every day and sleeping well

it's bizarre to struggle core for an hour and a half on something and then wake up the next day to finally understand something

I did it so wrong until I was a junior in college. What a waste.

is there any similarly effective strategy for learning?

I'm worried that I'm missing a big one. Like eat breakfast if you've got work or class all day.

perhaps another super strat is self-quizzing with super clear questions / talking to yourself when you start to loose focus.

[frosty moss]

so you mean you dont eat breakfast if you have work or class all day or am i having a stroke?

[neat lintel]

you can take some breaks and start back up

[barren anchor]

you're having a stroke; I mean do eat breakfast if you have work or class all day

that's a god dang life hack

[frosty moss]

great

[barren anchor]

yeah being a stroke victim isn't so bad

[tepid light]

tiny

[silent hearth]

what do you guys think about pen and paper maths

[wheat bear]

epic

[silent hearth]

why

[mental stratus]

[pale cedar]

Well well well.

But here's a question..
How popularised is the goal of being an engineer or a doctor in UK or wherever you live?

[mental stratus]

[torn orchid]

well doesnt cal technically comes in 12th for us too?

i think only limits and derivatives is taught in 11th

all the other stuff is in 12th

[mental stratus]

,av nishi_ka

[fathom swallow]

nishi_ka#0's Avatar

Click here to view the image.

[bronze jetty]

how u doin

[minor wedge]

sup

[bronze jetty]

reading book

and u ?

[minor wedge]

iam doing logarithm u all right bro

[bronze jetty]

are u high school student ?

[minor wedge]

we dont have high school in my country we have grades, but ya u can say

iam in 11th grade

[bronze jetty]

nice

I'm between Bc and Ms

[minor wedge]

niceee my bro ...

[bronze jetty]

ya

Timmy might bury ya'll

[minor wedge]

who is timmy

[bronze jetty]

brother of Tommy

[minor wedge]

and who is tommy "BROTHER OF TIMMY" HEHE

[bronze jetty]

Tommy is brother of Jimmy

you are wasting time

[minor wedge]

yes iam idiot

[bronze jetty]

try to be Eliot

[lime grail]

im starting to regret taking alg 2 over summer

[bronze jetty]

eh

[neat lintel]

you missed out on your big chance

[green lodge]

hi guys

[final delta]

ok

[proven knoll]

Spent 2 days doing a coding assignment

[neat lintel]

Can so eone gelp me

[south kelp]

2 days rookie numbers

[frosty moss]

go click on an available help channel put your question there

@neat lintel wait i remember seeing you google ads

if your channel closed you can reopen it with .reopen if no one's using it

[frosty moss]

now i see your question has already been answered ok

[modest condor]

bonjour

[exotic smelt]

I mean that's how it usually is for me

[cinder zephyr]

idk where else to ask this this

anyone know of a metal chalk holder for Hagaromo chalk?

I found plenty of plastic ones

[rapid crescent]

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[lavish scaffold]

Hiiiiiiiiiiii

[rapid crescent]

how r uuuuuuu

[solid yarrow]

Hello.

[neat lintel]

Hallo

[bronze jetty]

hiii

how u doin guys

[grave sparrow]

good bro, what about you

[bronze jetty]

I'm fine

bored, like always

[worthy shell]

Cat stepped on keyboard?

[solar hawk]

only?

[solar hawk]

its you :0

[worthy shell]

Yup

I never talk on here

Been on this server for a year and still don't have active

Oh, well, less than a year on this acc

[eager stag]

that reminds me that i have been here for far too long without having the active role myself lol

[solar hawk]

iv been on this server since 2021 (2 yrs ig) and i still dont ahve active 💀

[eager stag]

oh no, that might be a case of

[solar hawk]

[wasting time in discussion instead of actual math channels]

[eager stag]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-gif-22181257

what?

is that because i don't have a higher role in mathcord role hierarchy?

[solar hawk]

no i mean

it is a case of [wasting time in..]

if i talked in #groups-rings-fields more i would be active

[hallow turret]

can someone help me with calculas

im struggling

[quasi jetty]

Please read #❓how-to-get-help

[stuck meadow]

pretty normal

[gloomy halo]

hello

[neat lintel]

Hello

[lime lintel]

Hello

[restive oriole]

Hi! Anyone in Vietnam?

[solid yarrow]

Hello.

[restive oriole]

Where are you from?

[solid yarrow]

Not from Vietnam.

[restive oriole]

Where?

can we be friends?

[fair mural]

bruh

[neat lintel]

Funny

Im listening to a

Vietnamese song rn

[restive oriole]

What song do you listen to?

[restive oriole]

https://zalo.me/g/wkvurp786

[rapid crescent]

huh funny

[echo tundra]

<@&268886789983436800> link spam

[surreal sapphire]

its just 1 link?

[eager reef]

It’s an invite to some messenger app apparently

[echo tundra]

Across channels, oh you deleted the one in advanced lounge

[surreal sapphire]

i assumed its some song

[south kelp]

There's still one in discussy but it got drowned out by the not link spam I guess

[echo tundra]

Idk the link just looked shady

[neat lintel]

Hi

Was watching cast away

Really shows how "pure nature" is pretty hostile in itself

[surreal sapphire]

is it?

[modest condor]

hello

[mint patio]

Geometrically what we’re doing here (for the z_k’s)

Is just taking one root

Then rotating it to get the next root

Then rotating again to get the next

And so on

And the reason this works is since we’re multiplying by the roots of unity, which have magnitude 1, so they’re a pure rotation

[neat lintel]

@ripe dirge

[ripe dirge]

Yes
I am mostly self teaching myself ug level maths for now until next year

[neat lintel]

Alr, so here’s an example

https://mathworld.wolfram.com/FourierSeriesSquareWave.html

Scroll down to the bottom.

Shit, I can’t send images.

I was going to show you what I was making.

[ripe dirge]

Looks cool
But I really understand nothing of transforms yet

[neat lintel]

Basically, the more terms you add, the more it begins to resemble that square wave shape.

I typically cut it off at about 15 or so terms.

[ripe dirge]

Ah

[neat lintel]

This is just one of many different Fourier series that can be used to make cool synth sounds.

[ripe dirge]

I see
I will read on it

[neat lintel]

It’s easier to just use summation notation rather than the integral form for this project.

[mental stratus]

[mint canopy]

Love your name @neat lintel, paired with Etaoin?

[neat lintel]

I’m glad you got the reference!

[neat lintel]

Did I make a mistake? I’m just a lowly high school graduate/prefosh, so it’s very possible!

[proper bluff]

@broken gust think i figured it out. i think this calculator only works with like definite integrals, like i need an upper/lower limit of integration

quite interesting hahah

[cold rivet]

i just watched a pokemon episode where a pokemon leveled a city

it made 9/11 look like warming up

then ash and gang smiled and said goodbye as if 10,000 people didnt just die

and they throw their pokeballs too for some reason yet they always get them back

do they bounce back or something?

[little vine]

If Pokémon were real we'd factory farm Pikachu for energy and train vileplume to make psilocybin

[dense belfry]

It would be crazy if it was efficient to factory farm eels or something

Shit would be wild

But in reality what would happen I think is the mechanism that enables the Pokemon to do their shit would be studied and replicated

And reproduced in machines

I think that's kinda the vibes in the Pokemon manga I read when I was a kid

Wtf were those

[little vine]

I never read them but I read Pokémon creepy pasta

[torn willow]

Wouldn't raichu be a better energy source

[little vine]

Nintendo doesn't understand evolution

[cold rivet]

that would be the least of what we’d do

[cold rivet]

real magic cant be replicated

[little vine]

This man is taking Pokémon too serious

In the Pokémon universe there is a video game called "animals"

Where you get to look at an animal

You don't make them fight because that's sick

[torn willow]

You can catch god in Pokemon

[upbeat shore]

hi

how are you

[mental stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-afraid-pokemon-scared-tensed-gif-16716219

[mental stratus]

I didnt even read what you wrote dw, occasionally i go on a one emote per channel spamming spree

[solid yarrow]

That's what I call commitment.

[delicate cloak]

why sin A = sin (180 -A)

[river moon]

just draw a picture on the unit circle, it's pretty clear why that's true

[languid marten]

Do denumerable and countable sets mean the same thing in the context of set theory i.e there is a one to one (surjective) correspondce with N or Z⁺ ?

[river moon]

denumerable is countable and infinite

[lean fjord]

yo

[lean fjord]

can you catch sum bitches?

maths pun

[torn willow]

You actually can

Catch female houndooms

[alpine cloak]

does a server similar to this exist but centered around computer science and coding?

[fair mural]

@alpine cloak #old-network https://discord.gg/eF3Wjsd

[mental stratus]

quwu posting sus links

[alpine cloak]

thanks

[neat lintel]

On Khan Academy it says in order Algebra 1 > High School Geometry > Algebra 2. I'm not sure if the order is supposed to be done in order ideally after the grade stuff but, is that going to be fine? am I going to understand enough of the high school geometry after algebra 1? or should I do: Algebra 1 > Algebra 2 > High school geometry...

?

https://www.khanacademy.org/math

[solid snow]

either is fine

[neat lintel]

Also, I assume it's better to do college algebra before precalculus?

[solid snow]

college algebra by and large does not mean anything

i.e 'no'

[neat lintel]

I'm just gonna follow the order per the website and hope that's okay.. unless someone can advise otherwise.

Goal is to learn up to calculus then stats though.

Trying ensure I cover concepts prior to them being introduced out of the blue then I get stuck and have to jump ahead then back etc.

[mental stratus]

[loud rivet]

Garbage

[solar hawk]

;-;

[neat lintel]

@flat hazel this is how i do it in my head
$$6 + 17 + 2 $$
$$ 6 + (17+2)$$
$$6+19$$
$$Note: n + 9 = n + 10 -1$$
$$10 + 6 + 9$$
$$10 +16 -1$$
$$10+15$$
$$25$$

[fathom swallow]

brandon_hu

[flat hazel]

Well

[neat lintel]

the other way i would do it would be
$$6 + 17 + 2$$
$$8 + 17$$
$$(8-x) + (17+x)$$
Where x is a number that turns 17 into a factor of 10
$$\mod(10,17+x)=0$$
$$x=3$$
$$5+20$$
$$25$$

[fathom swallow]

brandon_hu

[flat hazel]

Probably me too

But writed down

I need a reference

[neat lintel]

In the past, have you talked to a doctor about this ?

[flat hazel]

For some reason

[flat hazel]

No

The nearest thing is I go whit a educational psychologist or something like that

[neat lintel]

they should be a doctor as well

[flat hazel]

But I am well

In that aspect

[neat lintel]

I got an 86 on my midterm

[sly flint]

I do something similar.
6+17+2
6+19
Now in my head I imagine 6 as an unstable unit that gives a part of itself to 19 to make it stable (Achieve a form such that it's a multiple of 5)
So 5+1+19
5+20
25

It's a lot more visual and tangible in my head though.

[frigid kite]

that,s other way about 1 add 1 repeats

I don't think I can summarize some models very well

[neat lintel]

donald

[alpine kindle]

so this is why they taught us "number bonds" in primary school

[neat lintel]

trump

[long matrix]

id do 6+2 first as thats easiest

[neat lintel]

shurii

they are one of the best

[mental stratus]

isn't this tiny?

[neat lintel]

yep

[mental stratus]

you became tiny again

no wait, you're still anna

[neat lintel]

i was just trying to switch to some different names

[mental stratus]

no matter what you become i will still recognize you

[neat lintel]

i will just keep tiny

[fair mural]

me to @rotund steppe

[rotund steppe]

[neat lintel]

@rotund steppe hi hru

long time no see, have you been busy

i saw you in #chill and then you went disappeared for so long

[serene pulsar]

learning math again is fun like I kind of expected it to be. It feels silly having to learn all the things I didn't learn in high school but I still love it. I've had the quadratic formula memorized since high school because of a stupid song I watched on YouTube and now I actually have use for it and understand what it's for. 😄

whenever I need to learn more formulas I think I just have to put them into song since it stuck so well lol.

[neat lintel]

math in the past was crazy

Dude just threw a sphere and a cylinder into some water to measure their volume

[lime finch]

thats how math is supposed to be solved

[sour cipher]

Having trouble solving a problem - then let the world do it for you

[little vine]

What was his name

Erastothenes I think

Measured the radius of the Earth very closely using shadows

[livid gull]

#math-discussion

[neat lintel]

Thank you math server for not being as cringe as you could be

Joined the AP Students discord server to be around people who are also taking clep exams for college credits

Big mistake on my part. Almost died from the amount of cringe that was emanating from that place

why would you even want to be around such people in the first place

only joined to ask how to use a calculator...

[onyx ginkgo]

What level of math are you in?

[neat lintel]

calculus 2

[bronze pelican]

not a proof4

[silver hawk]

What was there

[serene pulsar]

I hope someday soon to be at your level

I want to get to at least Calculus 1 as quick as I can

hopefully I can place into it if I study hard enough before my college placement exam

[neat lintel]

What are you currently learning?

You can do it within a Year so long as you know Algebra 1

Calculus 1 only requires some knowledge of trig functions, algebraic manipulation skills, etc..

[serene pulsar]

RN I'm learning all the math I didn't learn in school in preparation for entering college for a STEM degree, and I just finished reviewing the Level 3 review exam which is listed as Geometry and Algebra 1. Now I'm on to the level 4 and 5 review exam which is algebra II to precalculus I believe, and so far it doesn't seem too hard (only looked at a few questions and did 2)

[neat lintel]

I believe in you. Pay special attention to Algebra 2 / Precalc

They matter the most for Linear Algebra and Abstract Algebra

[serene pulsar]

Thank you, and I definitely will as I'm really excited to get to Calculus.

[neat lintel]

Ah yeah calc is pretty important too

😅

[serene pulsar]

God I'm so excited to finally be learning math. I didn't realize I loved it until my last year of high school when I was at a trade school and had to write a program to convert IPv4 address to binary for subnetting.

[craggy gust]

What STEM degree

[serene pulsar]

That's when I realized how fun math is especially in programming

[neat lintel]

Yep! Programming is Discrete Math

[bold yoke]

math really do be cool

most of the time at least

[last wren]

man, not to burst your bubble, but maths is my escape from programming

[serene pulsar]

Computer Engineering ultimately, although the school closest to me RN doesn't offer it specifically so I have to take some prerequisite classes before transferring to my desired university for CE.

[craggy gust]

are you in the US

[serene pulsar]

And I LOVE discrete math. I learned some from the book C.O.D.E. by Charlez Petzold and I adored it.

[serene pulsar]

Yes

[craggy gust]

UIUC has a good CE major

[bold yoke]

computer engineering is a good course

not exactly my thing but really cool nonetheless

[neat lintel]

Nice Axolotol

[serene pulsar]

I'm really really excited about it

[neat lintel]

Axolotl

[serene pulsar]

combines pretty much everything I love

[bold yoke]

🗿 🍷

[craggy gust]

Where do you plan to study after transfer

[serene pulsar]

I had a friend that majored in EE and I did a lot of his homework. And even most of his final for his web design class lol

[bold yoke]

EE = Electrical?

[neat lintel]

Don’t do that

[last wren]

here's a thing. what's ET short for?

[neat lintel]

Academic Dishonesty is bad 😦

[serene pulsar]

Definitely won't anymore, I was younger at the time and he was an abusive friend. We are no longer friends.

[neat lintel]

Hope you get kicked out of college

[serene pulsar]

that's depressing 😭

[bold yoke]

man, people do it so much it's normal

like

yeah it's bad, let's not do it or encourage it

but clearly it happened in the past and so there's no reason for such a harsh response lol

[serene pulsar]

At the time I only saw it as an opportunity to do college work which I wanted to do very badly but didn't have the means to.

[neat lintel]

past behavior predicts future behavior

You have a lot of means to do college work now :_

[craggy gust]

MIT, Stanford, and Cornell have lots of free courses with downloadable material

[serene pulsar]

Nawww.

[neat lintel]

Khan can get you through a lot of stuff, and you can get legally free books for every subject

Making it harder for people who actually do the work

[bold yoke]

where are you getting legally free books?

[neat lintel]

Eventually Ou just have to join the dark side though

[craggy gust]

University websites

[neat lintel]

Professors post entire PDFs of books lol

[bold yoke]

but legally?

[neat lintel]

Yeah

[bold yoke]

interesting

[neat lintel]

Licensed

[craggy gust]

sometimes it's their textbook

[neat lintel]

Knapp uploaded a digital version of all his books online

[bold yoke]

the ones I needed were not available at my university's library and I couldn't find them as a pdf 😭

but I managed to sort it out

[serene pulsar]

I was basically a kid and didn't know anything about college, so not really indicative of my morals.

• again the abusive relationship aspect of it.

[craggy gust]

how does someone cheating in a course make it more difficult for others

[serene pulsar]

maybe a curve? not sure how that would work. It was his fourth (technically fifth) year if that changes anything.

[torn willow]

Relative Grading

[craggy gust]

is the class size like 10 people and for some reason being curved more than 5%

[torn willow]

/grading on a curve

[bold yoke]

I forget you guys got curves

[torn willow]

Could be 80 people

And on a curve

[serene pulsar]

pretty big university so my guess is a bigger class

[bold yoke]

here the only curves we get are calculus ones

[torn willow]

Or more likely like 800 people

[craggy gust]

I only see curves in required/fundamental courses for engineering like calc sequence and linear algebra

[bold yoke]

curves in linal? what kind of linal did you study??

[torn willow]

Some schools can curve literally everything

[bold yoke]

oh wait

grading curves

nvm lol

I appear to have lost myself in my own joke

[torn willow]

It's fine if someone cheats to pass the worthless subjects they are forced to take

That's my morality

If someone cheats on the subjects that are actually important, they are dangerous

[craggy gust]

putting thousands of dollars to use with 10-12 of 18 credit hours not being math

[bold yoke]

I'm inclined to agree

[serene pulsar]

it's worth noting he was just going to copy it off of google anyway

[neat lintel]

?

What subjects are actually important?

[torn willow]

I do not want an EE who cheated on the signal processing course for my DSP job

[craggy gust]

The ones that have further classes relying on that knowledge

[solid snow]

the ones for your degree

[neat lintel]

I think any kind of academic dishonesty should result in immediate expulsion

[torn willow]

Nah

[neat lintel]

With no refunds

[bold yoke]

I had a couple of chem classes (despite them being literally useless and the teachers not only agreeing with that, but also answering some questions with "you're in engineering, you don't need to know that") and while I didn't cheat on them, I did use chatgpt to help me write the lab reports quicker

[torn willow]

That assumes the student has some control

[bold yoke]

I didn't want to waste more effort than needed for those

[serene pulsar]

I don't know how he even got an EE degree, he didn't seem to know anything about it but he spent 5 years in it. I only did a few worksheets at the end + part of his irrelevant web design final. I am worried for whomever he works for.

[bold yoke]

and borderline not teaching the syllabus

[torn willow]

Maybe he is a dude who appears to not know anything, but is actually a genius?

[serene pulsar]

maybe, but he wasn't very nice 😓

[neat lintel]

You shud have slapped his face in

Btw an EE asking for help from a high schooler or lower is comical he had to be kinda deluded

[serene pulsar]

my last message to him was kind of aggressive after years of walking on eggshells. I only finally stopped talking to him because he became overwhelmingly transphobic (I think he always was, but he stopped hiding it) towards my queer friends.

[neat lintel]

Ah this was an online friend?

[serene pulsar]

never met him in person thankfully, the year I blocked him was the year I almost met up with him because I had an internship in his state.

Yes

But I had known him for I think 8+ years

since I was 13

[neat lintel]

That is quite a while

Almost half the time I’ve been alive

[serene pulsar]

yes and 1 of those years I had blocked him, and then stupidly unblocked him because I thought he had changed after encountering him again through a mutual friend lol.

anyway, I won't ramble on about this haha

I should be getting to bed so I can study more math in the morning 😄

[torn willow]

Ok,I think my academic culture means I differentiate getting a diploma from actually knowing shit

Like anyone can get good grades or whatever

Doesn't mean they know jackshit

[neat lintel]

Some of the smartest people I know dropped out

I think it is like

Weird

Two different

Things

[torn willow]

Yeah, it's about consistency

Dropping out of college seems like an irrational move

Like grades are about good work ethic

In an ideal world

[neat lintel]

Not dropped out

They just do other shit a lot

Like gap years

Etc…

One of them knows cutting edge research mathematics in UG, but has been an UG for 6+ years

So idk

[torn willow]

Ok, I think for them they constantly get bored

And couldn't bring themself to finish UG

Or well care

[torn willow]

This is outright evil tbh

I think this is the justification police use for all their actions

It works wrt competency

wrt morality, it's just yikes

[serene pulsar]

I used to be a pretty awful person a kid and teen because I had untreated mental health, issues, an abusive environment + lack of support system, and wasn't diagnosed with autism yet. As I got older and interacted with people more online I learned better morals and became a way better person. Nowadays I'm always considered to be the most accepting & forgiving one of most given groups (except of course when it comes to fascism).

People can change and they do all the time.

Environment is usually the biggest variable.

Anyway I'm going to sleep fr now, just was checking my phone one last time. 😅

[serene pulsar]

When I say of given groups btw, I mean of my friend groups. Not accepting of particular groups, rather accepting of people.

I'm too tired to articulate myself properly lol

[urban frigate]

you don't need to explain yourself further, thanks for making it as far as you have, friend.

And have a great rest

sleep well

[torn willow]

Is it true psychology is one of the most popular degrees in the US?

Interesting. I didn't expect social sciences to be more popular than STEM

[urban frigate]

Psychology and mental health in teens is rising due to "late stage capitalism and the improper use of ourselves"

getting a psychology degree

and being a psychologist would definitely be a way

to make huge amounts of greed

after your school bills, with that kind of a diploma it'd be easy to be sit, just listen to problems, calculate answer properly and there you go, you just saved someones day if it was that simple lol

im just yanking ur chain with that last one

[torn willow]

Also, is therapy usually super expensive

[little vine]

Yes it is

[torn willow]

Like a counselling session here is more expensive than 3 dentist appointments

[little vine]

Probably the most useless unless you get a graduate degree, too

[little vine]

Here too unless you have health insurance

[torn willow]

RIP

No wonder why people dislike therapy

[little vine]

Yeah, and the USA needs it the most

I see a therapist fwiw and think anyone could benefit

But unless you can get it covered

Which I can. Really it is a luxury

[torn willow]

Does therapy actually help for most people

I feel like for most people, their problems are due to their living conditions

Like being overworked

Not being able to change their lives because Soviet

*society

[bold yoke]

Therapy helps on those cases too because it points them to ways to get rid of the actual problems

It's not a fix by itself

[torn willow]

What if you already know the issues

But you can't do anything because system is fucked up

[bold yoke]

Still good to talk about it

[torn willow]

I don't think it's worth spending huge amounts of money for that

Because the average person is not rich

[bold yoke]

Oh no for sure not

Healthcare should be subsidized but that's a whole another issue lol

[torn willow]

These aren't really misconceptions tbh

Like they seem like legit concerns

[bold yoke]

Well while I get the point, a psychologist is a trained professional still, so it's kinda different from just talking to family

But yeah

Like, I don't go to therapy myself

So maybe I shouldn't be defending it that badly lol

[torn willow]

I feel like I gained more understanding from this server than visiting an therapist lmao

Because none of my problems are "textbook mental health" problems

[bold yoke]

Throwing all your issues at solving math problems >>>

lol

[urban frigate]

its safe to say that the thing we learn from psychology is everything in our brain is super complex yet easily worked through based off of past accounts from the first point of memory to last point of memory, and then you figure out that dwelling is bad so don't make people dwell, so once you make the patient stop dwelling you make them stop self loathing once you make them stop self loathing they realize they had the potential within themselves to be super strong the entire time, patient then realizes they never needed psychology and repeat

with the next patient

[next pine]

watch this vid peeps

[urban frigate]

what's it about

[solid snow]

“…they never needed psychology”, while explaining how they needed psychology

[surreal sapphire]

therapy also isnt just talking

its about acquiring skills to cope with your problems

[little vine]

My therapist asks questions I wouldn't think of asking myself. And my friends and family wouldn't either

And yes, about skills big time

[surreal sapphire]

psychologists are trained professionals, they know research

they try to find the "root cause" of the problem

and then they know what to do to "fix" it

its like going to a personal trainer (say after injury)

[little vine]

Good analogy

[solid snow]

Also, in a much more secure environment

Family or friends aren’t always even the best to ‘just’ talk to

[abstract raven]

Hi anyone on right now !?

[neat lintel]

I got random acne

[mental stratus]

me too

[pulsar fractal]

I never got acne before.

But seeing Michael Reeves, I'm also scared.

[pulsar fractal]

Now yes

[serene pulsar]

Thank you friend 😄

Yesterday I was too tired to realize how ridiculous dude's statement was and undeserving of a response

Anyway, I'm excited to study math today 😄

[latent edge]

Good determination

[urban frigate]

not really, I went to therapy for 3 years didn't fix anything then figured out the problem was me the entire time and now im a healthy individual

I am not denying the fact that mental health is indeed a spectrum however

but i learnt the fact and philosophical idea through myself that it was all in my head, that i was stonewalling, and that since i was stonewalling and refused any point of view but my own delusion it kept me in that mindset

and then i found out the truthful fact of "Let your past not affect your Future" Many Many philosophies believei n this. "We are the ones who refuse to build our own building blocks"

Therapy always ends with "I never needed that" if we build a true stoic resilience to our own issues

which as humans we are ALL capable of

if the greeks could fight in a Complex Hoplite Palisade or Hoplite long Spear Formation, and if we can evolve from 0bc to 2000 ad we are smart enough to fix everything already

we have the tools

they've been there for centuries

knowledge, creativity, wisdom, we all limit these things ourselves, not through other people

everyone has the potentional to learn in complex arodynamic ways

e v e r y o n e

[neat lintel]

[urban frigate]

I then also taught myself the pain you feel during working out is nothing but muscles straining and tearing on molecular level to then be built up, and once you realize that the buildup of muscle and the increase in human anatomy within ourselves, not to say within others, promotes the physical culture which creates Olympian era Athletes

[torn willow]

If the problem is you, I suppose therapy is super helpful

[urban frigate]

The problem being me means therapists cannot fix it

that means I must fix it

we must be the resilency which moves mountains

and be strong for ourselves and others, like a paragon of virtue

[torn willow]

Well ok, classic stoicism?

Although virtue is like common among many philosophies

[urban frigate]

All a therapist teaches is what I have said here, just in a much longer period, and more with dwelling and making people feel worse temporarily, then solving it with a chemical concoction?

"because drugs are the way to fix a human soul" - not one man

if we think into our past, to day 1, when we learnt to count to 5, were we not happy? joyful full of innocence and life?

are we not also capable of still being that, without people telling us we cannot be?

we are simply our own brick wall in the way

we are the thing preventing us from self love in that situation

it is like, salvation is right across the room, and all we have to do, is with self awareness and kindness extend our arm

to ourself.

[torn willow]

Just to confirm

Are you neurodivergent

[urban frigate]

I do not consider myself under any term under any branch of judgement.

these terms we've come up with

to judge one another

are preposterous

[torn willow]

Let me just fill the list for cynicism

[mint canopy]

Another amazing discussion moment

[urban frigate]

that we've even studied deeply into self loathing as a species is horrible

[mint canopy]

You think ‘neurodivergent’ is a term of loathing? Speaks volumes.

[urban frigate]

No, not at all. I am saying we've come to terms with sayings and things and then that's all we are.

[torn willow]

Do you believe virtue is the most important thing in your life

Like being good/doing good

[urban frigate]

i was diagnosed schizophrenic i am no longer schizophrenic

[mint canopy]

Anyway gl drake

[torn willow]

idk I am just bored

[mint canopy]

Damn I was bang on the money

[urban frigate]

and you judging me, for what you say i judged for, seems like pushing smething that isnt there

just to cut down this tree i was saying

to say, we're all capable

[torn willow]

Answer this

[urban frigate]

No, virtue is but a leaf on a branch on the tree of knowledges

It is but a tool

Like Compassion

Individualism

Grace

Expertise

Working with our Hands

Mathematics

Science

Upholstery

Architecture

and so on

the branches of Knowledge

the tree

which we grasp from that isn't good nor evil.

[torn willow]

Ok it feels like you have a cynic vibe

[urban frigate]

I am not a cynic, I love everyone

I love you even as a brother or sister or non-binary friend (I don't know ur gender)

[torn willow]

The Greek cynic

[urban frigate]

Have i not been coming into this server and been constantly met with negativity? why am i the cynic

[torn willow]

Not the word cynic that is used as an insult

[urban frigate]

I getcha

You are referring to an older idea of cynicism

not just the idea

that cynicism is "i hate everything blah blah blah loop cycle blah blah blah"

?

[torn willow]

Yes

[urban frigate]

I cling to neither branch

as should everyone else

[urban frigate]

why do we live by philosophies outdated from 2023? The Prophets Sent down to the earth (This is if ur religious but can be simplifed into anyone who was a leader) Were there properly in the time to learn what their society needed to thrive, we need to be just as creative as those Past Prophets, and love everyone and build ourselves stronger with our common 2023 knowledge, with our ideas of compassion, lack of hate, lack of self loathing, we as a species are more than capable

I do not reject Society nor Religion, both have their places, society is nessecary and religion brings fellowship amongst differing groups and ethinicities
as B says

Nor do i focus on Misery

Nor should anyone else

[neat lintel]

not so sure about that "no longer"

[rapid crescent]

hiiiiiiiii

[neat lintel]

Hey

[urban frigate]

hallo mein fruende. How are you doing today?

[solid snow]

I agree. War is bad too

[urban frigate]

Wholeheartedly.

[naive temple]

the intuition that humans haven't gotten their shit figured out is probably well founded, but what you wrote is half baked, young mind stuff

[urban frigate]

I appreciate you reacting from an older mindset, Could i hear more of your beliefs on how you would yourself as not a young mind would put it?

[naive temple]

im not saying i can do better, but if id try id say that humans generally should be like a symphony, as in well orchestrated and in synchrony, but in reality people don't do this people are messy often will be short sighted, there is a bias towards short term benefits over long term benefits and other biases, this is in a nutshell what i think i dont want to make it too long.

[neat lintel]

What's so special about
1101200112002001

[gritty talon]

what is this?

[gritty talon]

ohokaayokaayy

[serene pulsar]

Level 4 and 5 review feels a lot easier than Level 3 review, maybe just because I've relearned the fundamentals and some of the level 3 stuff is carrying over.

Relearned and learned*

[bronze jetty]

how u doin people

[little vine]

Good homie and you?

[urban frigate]

compared to n counting up from 1 to 16 a n is counting a different pattern this pattern being 11012300112002001 so i guess its trying to say with the equation K x^2 + 1 = 0 gives you a different idea?

could it be talking of divisibles?

I see that a n follows a certain pattern counting up as well with 3 not showing up even once until the number "25"

As if n is the basic number line, then a n is a mirrored image of divisibles of some number?

[lean coyote]

What should I put on my portfolio as a computer science beginner and a cs undergraduate?

[torn willow]

An OS project

[neat lintel]

https://discord.gg/programming
ask here, there is a career advise channel

[craggy gust]

school if it's a very known one should especially be one of the first things you want them to read

[mental stratus]

[river moon]

thankfully I have two papers for reference so I can identify whether this is t_{k-1} or ((t_k) - 1)

[rocky shuttle]

[torn orchid]

can someone pls recommend some videos on probability??

kinda high school lvl?

[languid marten]

Discrete probability you mean ?

[cyan goblet]

https://www.khanacademy.org/math/statistics-probability

[torn orchid]

that included

[frosty moss]

i'd also recommend khan academy i had previously watched 'Independent and dependent events' from it last year or something

[torn orchid]

oh okay thanku!

[serene pulsar]

back to studying math today 😄
Level 4 and 5 seems easy so far, but I'm entering new problems so let's see how it goes

I've been doing a lots of factoring, but once I got the hang of it it was actually pretty fun

I already had the quadratic equation memorized in high school so I didn't even have to remember any new formula

cool stuff

[marble willow]

A charged particle (mass = m, charge = q) is placed at the centre of a circular region containing a magnetic field. The magnetic field is given as a function of radial distance only and is directed perpendicular to the plane of the circle. The total magnetic flux through the circle is zero. The particle is given a radial impulse. If the particle leaves the circular region, then at the instant it leaves comment on the particle's velocity (i.e. radial, tangential, etc.)
@flat harbor

[flat harbor]

alright im back almost slipped on a puddle and killed myself

[marble willow]

[flat harbor]

do u wanna summarise which points in this problem u think are most relevant hints to solving it

[marble willow]

i have no clue but if I were to guess I'd do so
they went out of their way to say the magnitude of magnetic field has only radial distance dependence maybe that

[flat harbor]

yes that is very important

imo theres a few more and theyre closely related

[marble willow]

magnetic flux thingy?

[flat harbor]

ye

[marble willow]

i brutally ignored that one because i couldn't make use of it

[flat harbor]

theyre all important, theres no red herrings in this problem

[marble willow]

i see

how would i proceed?

[flat harbor]

well first ud ask what the magnetic field does to this particle

[marble willow]

a radial velocity means tangential force and a tangential force means a tangential velocity which in turn means a radial force and so on

[flat harbor]

ye and this makes the problem pretty complicated

have u done any orbit stuff before

[marble willow]

what do you mean

ive done elliptical orbits etc

if that holds relevance

[flat harbor]

yeey

in those problems u can convert a 2d problem into a radial one bc its a symmetric system right

[marble willow]

i have had instances of converting a 2d motion into a radial motion, yes

[flat harbor]

if u culd do this for this problem do u think u culd apply the zero flux condition

[marble willow]

i could try

[flat harbor]

yems give it some thought

[marble willow]

actually

[flat harbor]

ill think abt it while writing stuff done too

[marble willow]

i can't

the flux doesn't relate with the velocity

so a radial motion wouldn't do any better

or would it

[flat harbor]

ive dried my hair so ill check if my thought process is good

[long matrix]

wet hair uwu

[deep dirge]

...

Do you know the answer?

[marble willow]

yes

[deep dirge]

Ah.

[flat harbor]

well dont just tell me

[deep dirge]

If I spoil my answer, would you be able to stop yourself from looking?

Because I have an answer.

[flat harbor]

ever heard of spoilers

[long matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/chika-fujiwara-chika-fujiwara-kaguyasama-spoiler-gif-20501657

[deep dirge]

That's what I said...

If I use a spoiler tag, would you be able to prevent yourself from looking.

[long matrix]

yes

lmao

[deep dirge]

Because I was going to use it but I personally always click those lol.

[flat harbor]

really

[long matrix]

just label your spoilers