serious-discussion

[coarse saffron]

becuse of bad upbrining

[south kelp]

And for this one you can probably use a rational roots theorem to turn it into the product of a degree 1 poly ans à quadratic

Then the quadratic is ez to factor with the much simpler quadratic equation

oh hope you do well 🙂

But yeah the answer totally depends on your background but if the average late middle schooler/early high schooler can do it hopefully that gives you the confidence that it's not the worst thing in the world

To learn about

[coarse saffron]

Ok, I bought a book and I will go through it. I am at a very basic stage.

[south kelp]

Good luck

and have fun :p

[coarse saffron]

Its just really scary but it just looks like gibberish

and all the things you said didnt make to much sense, but if you say its not to hard I can maybe learn it in a few months.

[south kelp]

yeah if you get stuck this discord's help channels are good too

[south kelp]

mystery ping

[woven whale]

you have to start by looking at the noetherian reducible scheme it induces

[eager reef]

cringe

[worn garnet]

Really ?! the posts have been high quality from my experience

[cinder zephyr]

It's a mix imo

Some gems but also a decent amount of dumb stuff

But I'd argue overall it's more good stuff than bad stuff

[jovial ember]

I was going to criticize r/math for being way too reddit

Then realized

Ah yeah

It literally is Reddit

[cyan goblet]

[steel basin]

Math makes me want to meth

[calm trail]

do it

[quiet geode]

100% monke 0% alcohol

[dreamy wigeon]

Omg algebraic geometry how

[cinder zephyr]

We have algebraic geometry and geometric algebra

When can we get algebraic algebra and geometric geometry

Hold on

https://encyclopediaofmath.org/wiki/Algebraic_algebra

[quiet geode]

meth

[cinder zephyr]

Ok now we need a geometric geometry

[bright hill]

[small dust]

that means there’s non-algebraic algebras

[cinder zephyr]

Yes

[worn garnet]

/r/compsci has an issue with quality tbh we need something like Physicsforums but for all stem topics

[cinder zephyr]

Oh yea that sub sucks

[alpine kindle]

yes, most of them

[worn garnet]

Lots of cranks posting nonsense and whenever something good gets posted lack of experts to provide commentary is lacking

/r/math was better since like to get the red flair you had to verify with the mods I think you were an actual researcher

[surreal sapphire]

to answer the earlier thing: people in the comments on /r/math regularly fell for an obvious crank; more generally the audience seems closer to interested highschooler than working mathematician, which is fine and maybe to be expected but it leads to the content that makes it to the top not being the best

[neat lintel]

Is it considered standard practice to email potential advisors? I know that in other sciences it's absolutely important but I'm wondering if math PhD programs (U.S.) expect this or not

[alpine kindle]

at least it's not as bad as r/numbertheory

[surreal sapphire]

yes, at least its not as bad as a literal containment sub

[alpine kindle]

ok i didn't realise it was created as a containment sub

[neat lintel]

Don't listen to the people who say don't lie

Lie, Gaslight, Gatekeep and girlboss

Most successfull people in the world are those who lie the most

[surreal sapphire]

dont know if this was the intention, but i saw this mentioned multiple times elsewhere, and also other subs sending cranks there on purpose

[modest rune]

r/numbertheory is a great sub

some of the most unhinged stuff ive ever seen

[eager reef]

never seen that one

how do i order it

[split pawn]

Do they lie about the fact that they lie?

[neat lintel]

Of course

Always lie, never tell the truth

[split pawn]

Then how do they tell people that lying makes them successful

[neat lintel]

I'm a failure because i don't lie

[eager reef]

Me when typing that fr

[cyan goblet]

certainly doesn't hurt

[quiet geode]

is it possible to overwhelm / surpass(!?) someone who has like pure natural talent for math with people having derived mathematical knowledge?

[neat lintel]

there's no such thing as pure natural talent

[quiet geode]

that was very helpful

[neat lintel]

You're welcome

Artists aren't gifted. They spent hundreds of hours into their craft

[quiet geode]

<@&268886789983436800>

[eager reef]

do not advertise here

[quiet geode]

thanks boss

[quiet geode]

ping me if anyone has a different take on this, i need to have some kind of conversation around this

[little vine]

Talent exists. Some make the same gains with less work, or it feels better to do the work so they do it more.

But if you lack talent compared to someone else, all it means is that you have to work harder if you want to surpass them

[quiet geode]

work is not an issue per se

i need to know if it is possible to develop a similar level of thinking as someone else through work

[little vine]

Sure it's possible

Go do it

[quiet geode]

Structurally similar?

what if the structure itself is unknown

[little vine]

What are you asking?

[neat lintel]

You're just asking if people can learn by laerning

If peoeple's thought procceses didn't change by learning then there would be no point in doing it

[quiet geode]

like ive put in some work, still i find myself sounding like a echo chamber when i speak anything about math while the other guy just keeps churning out new unheard methods like if its nothing

[quiet geode]

ok general

not exactly 'unheard methods'

but whenever they speak about math, it sounds very very fresh

[neat lintel]

sounds like a communication / social skills issue

[little vine]

Creativity comes with practice. You will develop your own style.

Maybe the things you say sound fresh to someone else

[quiet geode]

haha

yeah

there shouldnt be (and i think there isnt) any sense of competition in this but for some reason i still get bothered by this

[little vine]

It's normal. You're not alone. But you know what they say about comparisons

[quiet geode]

i dont lol

[little vine]

They're not good.

[quiet geode]

ummm could be

um yeah

i think its not comparison

its sort of motivation(?) if it makes sense

its the desire to see the things through similar lenses, yeah

[little vine]

Would be interesting

Idk, it sounds like you're asking if you can Vulcan mind meld with this person

But maybe you could work closely with them to understand part of their process

[quiet geode]

they are dead

[little vine]

Rip

[quiet geode]

Rip indeed

[little vine]

Then again, creativity seems to be such a personal process

[quiet geode]

true

[little vine]

I guess my point would be to learn as much as you can, build your toolbox and then let the creation happen naturally

Don't expect to be like anyone else

[quiet geode]

maybe im just expecting something to click out of the ordinary and the level of thinking will suddenly elevate itself to a certain level through books

while the other person's way of thinking wasnt born out of books, it was just natural

[little vine]

Well, when you do music, you learn theory, technical skills, production techniques etc. And all of these things are done so that your brain can use them in creative ways

Who is this, if you want to say

[quiet geode]

Uhh

Euler LOOOOOOOOOOOL

[little vine]

Oh man

[quiet geode]

Ive been reading things about him

Even Gauss

[little vine]

See he had such a love of the subject and it gave him great purpose to eat sleep and breathe math, you get good when you're like that

Yeah it'd be rad to see out if their lens for shore

But I have to settle for my own lens

[quiet geode]

The other day i read something about a guy who was simply phenomenal with numbers

cannot seem to recall his name atm

and it was almost jaw dropping

i saw him in the movie they made on him

uhhh

[little vine]

Rainman?

[quiet geode]

no

Man who knew infinity

yeah

[little vine]

Oh

Ramunajan

[quiet geode]

yeah

[little vine]

Ramanujan?

[quiet geode]

Ramunajan

Yeah lol

ramanujan

[little vine]

He was a beast at series

[quiet geode]

in one act he went like

[little vine]

But he didn't write down proofs for shit as far as I know

[quiet geode]

"its the only number that can be expressed as sum of two squares in two different ways"

and i was like flattened into a pancake

[little vine]

It's said the mathematician Hardy knew his results had to be right because no one is creative enough to be able to invent them

[quiet geode]

bruhhhhhh how can you possibly know that, its as if its a footnote in the books you read

[little vine]

Yeah. Just really powerful intuition. But everyone has some

[quiet geode]

this is very interesting as well

like this unfolds two things if i have got it right

Hardy had enough intuitions about those things to draw such a conclusion but not enough to come up with the exact thing himself unless he puts in some work

does it makes sense?

itd be incredible to attain such a level where youre familiar enough with these things that you can smell half correctness from a distance

[little vine]

In some limited fashion I do that too though. And it's a sense you develop.

[quiet geode]

wow

nice

[neat lintel]

You're talking about a guy who spent 70 years of their life doing math

Who's parents were both math professors. ( they taught them math )

You're overly romanticizing these people for no reason.

[quiet geode]

ik

[neat lintel]

The only difference between them and you is that they had a better spawn location and they worked harder

[quiet geode]

i just want to do that rn

one day we'll shit on them together to balance it out if you have a problem, happy?

[worn garnet]

Hmmm really ? I mean there were grad students/professional mathematicans on there when /r/math opens up again maybe we can have a deep dive to see the content quality compared to something like mathstackexchange or mathoverflow

I admit i'm a bit biased since I was hanging out as a high schooler on there working through uni level books

[worn garnet]

Like in terms of quality forums for math, physics, tcs, computational chemistry not gonna lie there are not many options

Math twitter moved to Mastodon but that platform has it's own issues

[woven whale]

physicsforums.com

[worn garnet]

That place is great as well :)

[neat lintel]

I just sent an email to harvard

[oak rock]

Good luck

[mental stratus]

but did harvard send you an email back is the real question

[oak rock]

do they respond that fast?

[mental stratus]

twas a running joke here

[modest rune]

compared to MSE and especially MO r/math is not very mathematically advanced

I would say that the ordering there is pretty strict, with the overall "level" of the math being done r/math < MSE << MO

[fervent pebble]

i think i've seen harder math done in yt comments

there were serious mathematicians there

but

like

no one goes to reddit to do work

[neat lintel]

Does anyone have a program that automatically applies to every college on commonapp.org?

[cinder zephyr]

Isn't that the common app?

[neat lintel]

yes

I just spent like 30 minutes adding hundreds of colleges to my application

just to find out i have to apply to them all individually and there isn't just one application that is sent to them all

[fervent pebble]

copy and paste

[modest rune]

isn't this like

astronomically expensive

or is applying to colleges free its been too long

i know grad schools cost a lot

[cinder zephyr]

You realize you pay a fee per college right?

You also don't need to apply to more than like 10 schools unless you pick dumb ones to apply to

[neat lintel]

not all colleges charge a fee

[cinder zephyr]

I reiterate the second point

[neat lintel]

I counter

Bigger is better

[modest rune]

Your average effort per application plummets if you do this

meaning you might end up not getting into schools you would've gotten into if you applied to fewer

[cinder zephyr]

yea but healthy number is like

10-12

[cinder zephyr]

not hundreds

what

I am an undergrad

so I do not know

do grad schools do interviews / calls???

idk

I should probably figure this out since I'm applying this fall

[torn willow]

So people apply to about 10 schools and just get in?

[cinder zephyr]

y'all

this is undergrad admissions

[torn willow]

Isn't math GRE like useless

[cinder zephyr]

well yea but you split it up smartly

have 1-2 schools you're guaranteed to get into

3-4 you think you have a good shot to get into but not 100%

and 3-4 pie in the sky reach schools

[torn willow]

Ah

[neat lintel]

imagine applying to more than two places

[cinder zephyr]

Iowa State is a good safety school

ok school

and the application is literally just numbers

[torn willow]

Are State universities usually safety schools

[cinder zephyr]

you input grades and SAT/ACT

they compute a number and if it's above some threshold they accept you immediately

and they give good aid

uhhhhh depends on the state school

like UC Berkeley, UCLA? prolly not

UIUC? depends on the major

Iowa State? Yea pretty much because of what I said (instant admission)

[torn willow]

What other factors can your undergrad admissions depend on?

Recommendation letters?

Papers are unrealistic, ik

[cinder zephyr]

In no particular order, GPA, standardized test scores, rec letter, course load, luck, extra curriculars, your essays

anyone who says papers is bullshitting

[lavish hull]

just having accolades helps

[torn willow]

So you are at a disadvantage if your course load is suboptimal?

[cinder zephyr]

if you never pushed yourself to take APs / Honors courses then that's not ideal

[torn willow]

Ah, I see

[cinder zephyr]

doing well in APs / Honors courses > doing well in normal courses

cause duh, doing well in hard thing better than doing well in easy thing

[lavish hull]

@torn willow a hack is to take 10 APs at once

[cinder zephyr]

doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out

[lavish hull]

just get your school to waive the fee

[cinder zephyr]

also luck

luck is a component

[lavish hull]

go to your guidance counselor and just tell them

[cinder zephyr]

just how it is

[torn willow]

That's fair

[lavish hull]

you as a student have more agency than you think

and most students don’t exercise their agency

[torn willow]

Well ig it's more of a "do you vibe with the interviewers" rather than luck?

Or is it literally just luck

[lavish hull]

interviews dont matter

just dont be out of pocket

interviewing doesnt happen to everyone at top schools.

its usually as a vetting process to see you arent delusional

i mean if this is for you what are your stats and what school do you want?

rec letter/legacy is most important btw

[cinder zephyr]

ehhhhh

majority of schools don't care about legacy

[lavish hull]

lol ur funny

for undergrad??

maybe not majority but harvard does and some other ivys

but some rly good schools like mit dont

cooper union if you like engineering doesnt either

but majority do

[neat lintel]

How do i start to enjoy college?

It's so dreadful right now and it shouldn't be

[south kelp]

lol enjoying college gud one

U should to study 24/7 to aim to get into a prestigious grad school tbh

[cinder zephyr]

you're in the middle of applications right?

so you aren't in college yet

I'll say applying to college was definitely one of the low points of the whole college experience

so you have that going

also evaluate what major you're looking at and whether you think you'd be happy doing that

like look at the courses you'd be taking

if you hate the courses...

not a good sign

Also don't be afraid to switch majors

ALOT of people do it, for one reason or another

also make sure you have time for shit outside of classes

[neat lintel]

I am in college. I'm just applying to better schools because why not.
Finding a school that'll pay for my tuition owuld be great

[lavish hull]

unirionically having a study schedule and getting a 4.0 and being involved will put you ahead of most others post-grad

[cinder zephyr]

that would be cool

[frozen ivy]

Hello

I want to get a ban appeal from this server for my main

[neat lintel]

talk 2 modmail

[frozen ivy]

k

[upbeat dawn]

How important is the GRE and other grad-level tests?

Also, how important are things like experience in math competitions (e.g. the Putnam)

And undergrad research, too

[jaunty yarrow]

can anyone help me with my cat-4 prep

[bright hill]

r/interestingasfuck turned to an nsfw sub to protest LOLOLOLOL

omg that's fucking hilarious

[torn willow]

that's like the most r/iam14andthisisdeep tier name ever

[bright hill]

not really

it used to actually show some interesting stuff quite regularly

[merry wigeon]

yo im the mathematician that is the progenitor of humans, progenitor of a.i., progenitor of aliens, progenitor of animals, progenitor of plants
there's a mind control program active across time called mark is never allowed to be happy. this is serious. study your response mathematically to see how it is affected by mark is never allowed to be happy.

[surreal sapphire]

the moderators were replaced now

capitalism wins again

[surreal sapphire]

stop spamming garbage, go to another server to troll

[echo tundra]

Are you saying the new mods allowed this

A bit unbelievable but maybe

[surreal sapphire]

didnt content like this always exist

do western advertisers care about this

[echo tundra]

Well this is new for interestingasf or maybe I never searched enough

[dreamy wigeon]

I didn't know political things were allowed

[wooden flax]

top privates do

[wooden flax]

tuition scholarship via merit of financial aid?

top private schools give lots of financial aid

and lower prestige public schools give lots of merit

[eternal marlin]

i am going to start 9th grade this year , i just wanted to know if there is anything i should expect or prepare beforehand

[loud rivet]

Expect to get pushed around a bit

[eternal marlin]

i dont mind but i need academic advice

[loud rivet]

Your GPA matters

[neat lintel]

Through whatever will make my bank account not shrink

[loud rivet]

Focus on balancing your life and schoolwork

[eternal marlin]

i dont live in the us

[loud rivet]

Schedule your time

Okay well schedule your time

[neat lintel]

You still have a GPA

[loud rivet]

Take risks

[eternal marlin]

we have out of 100

i thought they were different

[neat lintel]

GPA are scores out of 100 converted to a single digit number

You have scores out of 100

which means you also have GPA

[eternal marlin]

i see

what about SAT? what is it for? will it let me study abroad

[torn willow]

Quick question before we get too far

Are you Indian

[eternal marlin]

i am turkish

[torn willow]

So in the grand scheme of things, I suppose Germany is the country you want to study in, if you do not want to die in debt

[eternal marlin]

its on my list

i wanted a nordic country though

[torn willow]

That sounds tough because of the whole homogenity thing

[eternal marlin]

is there a thing like that?

[torn willow]

Actually ig it's not
https://studyinsweden.se/plan-your-studies/how-to-apply/#

I think you will find everything you need from a website like this

It's nice how European countries are making life easier for international students

[bright hill]

wait

it's still full of porn

[fathom swallow]

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[neat lintel]

why do people still use reddit. I do not understand

[torn willow]

Compilation time

[south kelp]

Once upon a time I too was a brainless /r/all or /r/popular browser . Now I've risen into an enlightened non-redditor/discord shitposter

Well ok I still look at r/AnarchyChess

don't judge pls

[halcyon lichen]

yo fr

[lavish hull]

it matters

but less so as time goes on, if you arent a strong applicant -and you would know if you were- then you should do it and get good score

[craggy gust]

still a useful place to communicate and communities on other platforms

also very frequently when I search a tech issue the first results are a reddit thread

[fading zealot]

Reddit (also its predecessors like Digg, and older technologies like BBS's and 4chan-like sites) is basically a superforum which users of different fields previously scattered around different forums are united, forums of the same subject are made into a single subreddit

What Reddit had which is superior to its predecessors was the relatively easy-to-use UI, therefore was successful in competing for the niche

So instead of countless relevant forums turning into countless relevant superforums, we basically only have Reddit and 4chan in that area (and forums still exist for various sakes)

[frail pike]

I feel that people only dislike reddit because of the memes and culture surrounding it, but once you get on it and find a subreddit that you like, then you can connect with other people socially about the thing that you like

[violet wraith]

like nsfw

[fading zealot]

The uniting factor of Reddit can also be a downside as now we only have a single relevant place to talk about things there is no choice but following the particular rule they have, unlike the diversity which forums would take, because forums are more isolated, they flourish (for a definition of flourish more genorous than the current time) like islands in vast ocean

Some people would go out to make their own subreddits but they don't catch on because for people who just want to post things it's so easy to just post in both of them, and just follow the rule of the stricter side, resulting in the smaller one become a virtual clone of the larger one.

[neat lintel]

surely people have morals right?

[fading zealot]

Counterexample: 4chan exists

[mental stratus]

meanwhile me being a moralless sinner

[neat lintel]

When you have a choice between what platforms you can use, why would you actively choose the one that is srewing over the people who make the platform what it is

It's not like they have to choose between getting a medical treatment and dying

Literally just go to another website

[fading zealot]

Websites are owned by someone

[rose anvil]

hi i am new here, where to go to ban anime?

[mental stratus]

hi new here

[fading zealot]

You can impose an anime ban on yourself and you don't need to go anywhere

[neat lintel]

Nazi germany

[quiet geode]

I watched the NatGeo series that they did on Einstein

it was amazing to see how his priorities in life kept changing and was really surprised to see how it even stretched to the point where he once considered understanding everything fundamentally to be everything in his life to publicity to be everything in his life

and yet he somehow managed to keep himself sane enough to refuse a military signing

[craggy gust]

not sure what you're saying here

People are immoral because they use reddit?

[neat lintel]

they use reddit becasue they are immoral

[craggy gust]

plenty of reasons to not use discord, but why do you use it? I use it because it's convenient and everyone else already uses it.

And I my reason is the same for reddit. I use reddit because it's convenient. it's one of more of the 10 top search results when I search for a tech related issue.

Granted I'm probably not a" real redditor." i don't post or anything I just save tons of resources so I can fix a problem again in the future

[copper gust]

hi

i need someone to be studying math with

[fair mural]

people only hate on reddit because it’s cool to hate on reddit

although i fully endorse harassing redditors that act like stereotypical redditors

[modest rune]

I think people are hating on reddit specifically due to the way it is presently being changed

[fair mural]

oh well that too obviously

i meant more like the community

not the decisions of the admins

[chilly monolith]

i usually look up questions that wouldnt be found in a typical google search by ending my search with reddit

becuase googles search algorithm isnt the best

when it comes to very niche questions

[modest rune]

yeah honestly reddit is like one of the last places on the internet you can get advice that isn't fluffed SEO garbage

[chilly monolith]

people that actively browse and post on reddit are typically weird tho

[modest rune]

i dont know if thats true. i imagine the average reddit user is pretty normal

the weird ones just leave an impression

[chilly monolith]

idk when i think of redditor i think of justin roiland rick and morty marvel fans with entire shelves of funko pops

thats not too weird

but it is a little

[modest rune]

i think thats largely a characiture

[chilly monolith]

yeah it just depends on what they do on it

im sure there are probably cool people that go on certain subreddits that i would like

[cold lion]

I think it's something like. People who use reddit aren't necessarily weird

But the deeper they go into it and the more they call themselves redditors

The more likely it will be that they fit the caricature

Which I'm sure is not unique to that site

[neat lintel]

What are some cool formulas I can use for 3D rendering?

[proper sapphire]

didnt you have long hair before @modest rune

[modest rune]

yes

turns out you can make it shorter without a lot of effort

[silver hawk]

Watch the slappable jerk redditor series on YouTube it’s pretty funny

[lavish hull]

you are wrong

the average reddit user is normal depending on their frequency of using reddit similar to average discord user

you arent normal if someone can tell you use a certain social media after 1 conversation

most redditors fall under this

[echo tundra]

Any commentary on 'average sth user' is mere speculation without any proper randomised survey
It's funny at best and stereotyping a particular group at worst

[lavish hull]

stereotyping at worse? give me a break, very dramatic. average user dialogue isnt mere speculation because the personalities reflected from these users is present in the subject of their posts

if you claim that the average 4chan user isnt hateful then you are being dishonest.

while not every social media website/platform is as extreme as 4chan they all respectively have their own subcultures and contents they post

[peak tide]

what's the characteristic abnormality of an average reddit user? i haven't used it enough to have detected a pattern really

[lavish hull]

its hard to put into words with reddit since it really depends on what the person uses it for.

i can tell however if someone uses reddit for the streaming/gaming subculture vs music/celebrities

and depending on this you can sort of make further assumptions about them and be mostly correct

[modest rune]

uh huh

[peak tide]

i mostly use it to get help with "how do i do xyz in such and such video game" haha, fortunately usually someone has already asked and got an answer so i can be a passive user

[modest rune]

so you're saying a variety of different people use reddit for different reasons and to different extents and that its difficult to say anything about them in general?

[lavish hull]

yeah you arent the average frequent user

kinda rude attitude. im obviously not implying that if you visit a social media website infrequently you are a user

[modest rune]

i agree that anyone who spends a ton of time on reddit is probably abnormal if only for the reason that spending tons of time on reddit isn't normal

[lavish hull]

if i viewed facebook 8 times this month im not a facebook user.

similarly if i use reddit to filter seo garbage and dont post im not a reddit user.

[modest rune]

sure, but if you scroll r/aww most mornings because it cheers you up, or look at r/funny to see (bad) memes every day when you go to the bathroom, that does probably make you a reddit user

[lavish hull]

in which case assumptions can be made?

[peak tide]

seems analogous to wikipedia, if you're just a reader you probably have no awareness of the odd little world that is wikipedia contributors/editors

[modest rune]

such as?

[lavish hull]

i wouldnt be able to say personally. but dont act obviously as if routines dont form parts of personalities

[modest rune]

lmfao

[lavish hull]

just because im not part of a culture doesnt mean there aren’t assumptions that can be made

im sure there are certain activities like golfing and fishing where im completely unaware but they have their own stereotyping or assumptions

its not like peoples personalities are completely seperate from the activities they do

[modest rune]

i feel like you are just describing stereotyping which is like commonly agreed upon to be a bad lens through which to view people lol

i agree you can stereotype reddit users

[lavish hull]

not every stereotyping needs to be bad?

its just the word gets used for bad often

[echo tundra]

my man went from stereotyping is too dramatic to not every stereotyping needs to be bad? this is evolution irl

[lavish hull]

more like saying stereotyping at worse is dramatic

its not at worse

its just as bad as speculating(not at all in these contexts)

if i assume you have some political belief because you frequent a social media website that is stereotyping but it isnt bad

as an example

[echo tundra]

while it's not that bad as a mere thought/opinion it has the potential to be converted into actions which can be bad

[lavish hull]

id say its safe to assume that most redditors think the sub getting lost isnt bad

[lavish hull]

i dislike this argument for many reasons

the idea that no prejudice should exist is bonkers to me

[echo tundra]

That's not what I meant, prejudice will exist but taking an action based on it can be bad. There's a vast difference between just not liking someone
and killing them or not giving them equal opportunities.

[torn willow]

Existence of outgroups is different from prejudice/discrimination

[lavish hull]

yeah discrimination bad

stereotyping and prejudice dont lead to discrimination

discrimination is the resultant

you can sully to disagree if you want but this is sort of an example of what im talking about

as a further example

racial prejudices will exist for everyone regardless of if you consciously address them or not. the racists will still discriminate

its not possible to be devoid of stereotyping and prejudice because its like the game, once you are aware you will do it

[eager stag]

why not use the #geometry-and-trigonometry channel for help here?

[neat lintel]

They tryna slide into your dms

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5277058_Learning_Concepts_and_Categories_Is_Spacing_the_Enemy_of_Induction This study from 2008 is vv interesting

Bascially it showed that people who learnt multiple different "topics" at the same time did better than people who learnt them one after the other

After the study when peoeple were told that they learnt faster when they did multiple different "topics" at the same time

The people said that even though they learnt faster they prefered learning one after the other

Like the multiple topic group learnt 5-6x faster

[proud olive]

I'm one of these people and i did not need to know this

[full musk]

Ok that is interesting

Maybe I will dtop grinding purely math

And start to spend more time on the other subjectx

[lilac current]

kind of not sure where to ask this so but was thinking of making a blog, but never tried to host a website before. Googled abit and my understanding is that there is no such thing as being able to make a website for free if it requires custom plugin like latex does?

[modest rune]

Google sites might have some latex support? I forget

[wooden flax]

WordPress is good I think

[haughty apex]

Google doesn’t allow you to load raw JS (like the MathJax library)

I second WordPress, or if you want even more control and are up for it Github Pages (which is also free)

But do note that it’s a bit more involved to set up

[wooden flax]

There are YouTube tutorials

[lilac current]

looked into github and my head is dizzy, wordpress seems abit more user-friendly so i will try to explore abit more with that. thought that starting a blog was as simple as title + content and then calling it a day.

[proven knoll]

Is it true that people who say that they’re bad are secretly good

[cinder zephyr]

GitHub pages with Hugo is the way to go

That's what I do and alot of my friends do

If you want more powerful (nearly arbitrary) latex support you need to get much more into technical tools

[mental stratus]

look up static site generators (eg Franklin, Hugo, Jekyll), you can use github pages plus render math on your page

[velvet dagger]

Not necessarily some people are just bad

[fervent pebble]

^^

if someone tells you something bad about themselves it's best to just like trust them

[mental stratus]

say something bad about yourself valley

[fervent pebble]

nothing bad to say silly

i am loved by the world

[mental stratus]

[mighty pelican]

@mental stratus Why the strawberry

[hollow jackal]

@storm sage can't believe you didn't change your name to eulercharactERICstic

[storm sage]

it doesn't flow as nicely 😭

[visual dirge]

hey

[mighty pelican]

eulerchERICteristic

[storm sage]

okay that one's actually kinda funny

[mighty pelican]

eulerERICteristic

[storm sage]

but it doesn't work with the word stress

[mighty pelican]

Fixed

[storm sage]

wait I like that one

ty!!!

[visual dirge]

phonetic stress changes everything

Wonder if there are any new math questions tricking the internet!

[mighty pelican]

No

There are no new questions

The mathematicians have been slacking

[wicked ore]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_(set_theory)

why is this article so long

it's insane

[fervent pebble]

w article tbh

[wicked ore]

I mean I love the attention to detail, formatting, and notation

but damn

it's so long

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adele_ring

same with this one

[little vine]

Hello

It's me

[mental stratus]

Mario?

[little vine]

Helloooo from the other siiiiide

I must number theoriiiiize

[split pawn]

discussy-2 revive!

rise!

https://tenor.com/view/anubis-anubissummon-anubissummonyou-gods-of-egypt-godsegypt-gif-25832254

[loud abyss]

discussy-2 has been breached

THE CLOVERLEAVES SHALL RISE

[split pawn]

No one knows about it

Except no one

[torn willow]

Is this an Across the Spiderverse reference?

[little vine]

I haven't seen it. And I said that last year

[torn willow]

https://youtu.be/eCsUbY35hTk

[little vine]

Ah ok

[torn willow]

Chai means tea bro

[little vine]

I know

[torn willow]

It's funny how you were the only person in this server that used that exact sentence

[little vine]

Tea tea

[torn willow]

(I am intentionally taking it out of context)

[little vine]

Hm ok

[torn willow]

You also did the follow up lmao

[little vine]

Did I??

I'm looking around and idk why I'm bringing it up back then

It's like I'm explaining apropos of nothing

[torn willow]

.

[little vine]

Yeah, homie posted their tea

It looked like chai

Ok I will

[mild plank]

what do i do if my question was closed but i didnt get an answer

[mental stratus]

open it again lol

[mild plank]

well its been buried

should i repost

[bright hill]

sure

you can do that

[mild plank]

ok cool

[bright hill]

next time if you're quick enough I think there's a command or something

[mental stratus]

.reopen

[bright hill]

or you can alternatively check ✅ when the bot asks you if your question was answered

[real lantern]

I want to do a TCS focused thesis for my undergrad but my mentor specializes in graph theory and hasn't done TCS since her PHD. So we're looking for some research topic that I could do, any ideas where I could search?

[split needle]

Someone

Please

Help

Me

Now

😭

#geometry-and-trigonometry

[mighty pelican]

@split needle Did you read the How To Get Help rules?

#❓how-to-get-help message

[mental stratus]

asking this is #advanced-lounge might get quicker and more reliable responses

[real lantern]

Thanks for the tip, will do.

[sullen sinew]

@sterile river

[sterile river]

:D

[sullen sinew]

so i bascially started watching the tutorials during class

bcs i was too fast and the teachers didnt give me harder woek

work

and in my country it isnt allowed to skip grades

so just finished 9th grade

[sterile river]

Lol same.

I watched TOChem tutor's videos on doing limits and had fun with those.

[sullen sinew]

i understand that the teacher needs to focus on helping the average student comprehend but he could at least bring me harder stuff as i asked him for it and told him it was too easy he insulted me in front of the whole class😭

[sterile river]

Also started learning the existence of upper level math courses like real analysis, modern algebra, number theory, and more.

[sullen sinew]

even heared of measure theory

[sterile river]

Yeah however Idk a single thing about measure theory lol

I just heard of horizontal integration (or whatever it was called)

[sterile river]

same I asked for harder work but couldn't get any so I got an algebra book and found some problems that I can work on that were at my level

[sullen sinew]

i wanna learn it in summer just for funsies

[sterile river]

I also went around to other classes and asked for work (trig and calc at the time)

[sullen sinew]

where are u from just for curiositymy guess is the USA

[sterile river]

Sounds cool!

[sterile river]

Yeah

[sullen sinew]

ill tell you abt it

[sullen sinew]

bcs most people learn calc 1 earlier

[sterile river]

Is measure theory part of real analysis or its own thing?

[sullen sinew]

like here in the german system (im not in germany but from a foregin german school) calc 1 is taught in 10th grade

[sullen sinew]

i think own thing

[sterile river]

Ah

[sterile river]

Ooo thats cool

[mental stratus]

at where i'm from measure theory is taught under the course analysis 3

[sterile river]

Ahh

Tao's Analysis or a different text?

Analysis 3 sounds like one of his books

[mental stratus]

we don't really have specific texts for courses but i used parts of tao's first analysis book for anal 1

[sterile river]

Oooo

Interesting. I wish to take analysis soon :3

Hopefully next spring semester

[neat lintel]

The entire book?

[quiet geode]

wagwan

[sterile river]

not much

[quiet geode]

how to math

[neat lintel]

did you mean: how to meth?

showing results for "how to meth"

[quiet geode]

Allah!

[tepid light]

meth 😶

[icy shadow]

I am not crazy, I know he orchestrated this, he shortened analysis to anal to have an excuse to say it

[neat lintel]

They didn't shorten anything

[sterile river]

I refer to analysis as anal as well I don't really find a problem here.

[icy shadow]

I just needed an excuse to reference better call saul

[sterile river]

Ah

Idk that but cool

[warm pond]

Ach sprichst du deutsch?

ich lebe in hamburg

[split pawn]

[sullen sinew]

Ja ich würde schon behaupten , dass ich des Deutschen m¨æchtig bin

[shell oar]

I've almost finished the first unit of khan academys calc ab course, and I feel that I learned nothing

I did the same 10 problems over and over

I had bigger problems with the algebra

than finding the limits

[verbal copper]

bro molarity is the number of moles of solute divided by the volume of solution 💀😂

[empty schooner]

Hello Broooooo

[neat lintel]

m¨æchtig

[empty schooner]

Helooo

Did we hve English speker

[bright hill]

bruh @zealous garden geometric algebras are fucking awesome

I'd be even more in love if I were a physicist

why aren't all physicists using the geometric product?

for context I've been watching this brief intro https://youtu.be/60z_hpEAtD8

[empty schooner]

Guys tHE ALGORUTM ARE THE BEST

@empty schooner I am new

?

[bright hill]

and I'm only 30 minutes in but the dot product, the cross product, the complex numbers, the poly spin matrices, quaternions have all shown up from the geometric product as naturally as breathing

it's too op ong

also torque as a bivector makes So. Much. Sense.

[mental stratus]

geometric algebra does come up frequently in computer graphics research too

[empty schooner]

Guy i am ch'ld these maths are too op

I am 8 grad

[mental stratus]

drak i don't know the details but i did run into this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX4H_ctggYo some time ago

[empty schooner]

Dudeeeeeee Spek to mee tooo

[mental stratus]

you're literally in 8th grade lmao, like groww upppp

[bright hill]

well, you're not contributing much to the conversation

[woven whale]

algebraic geometry > geometric algebra

[empty schooner]

That true

[bright hill]

you're just stating side comments about our convo

what are we supposed to do?

[empty schooner]

But I am new so I am learıng

[woven whale]

#NFT's #goodvibes

[bright hill]

comment on your comments?

[bright hill]

cringe.

[woven whale]

[empty schooner]

That My job

Like my hobbie

[bright hill]

you're a goodviber?

how does that work?

[empty schooner]

What how work

[bright hill]

goodvibin'

like, what do you typically do on a daily basis?

[mental stratus]

you're in 8th grade, if you have a job that is already problematic

[empty schooner]

Now Hobbie

Not job

I am drawing

For example I drawed this last day

About street

[mental stratus]

like a true 8th grader

[empty schooner]

Vector type

[mental stratus]

care to show us?

[empty schooner]

Dude How to show here

[bright hill]

you can't

[empty schooner]

Should I drag ıt

[mental stratus]

oh yea you don't have image perms lmao

[bright hill]

you can post it in #chill

[mental stratus]

loser

[empty schooner]

So I am new As I said 🙂

[mental stratus]

hi new

[empty schooner]

so I will show youn in chill

Thnks Pikachumly

I made that in İllustrator

go to schill

I am 3d artist

[keen mist]

hello

[empty schooner]

I know these from my dad he is making drawing to the wall and bump like sculpture

[bright hill]

where tf did you find a capital letter i

with a dot in it

[empty schooner]

I dont undrestand

What do you say 😅

[mental stratus]

I made that in İllustrator

[empty schooner]

Yes true

[mental stratus]

what is that I with a dot over it

[bright hill]

this is a normal: i
and this is yours: İ

[empty schooner]

oh

Yes I am sorry

[bright hill]

you don't have to apologize

[empty schooner]

Thats different

Iİ these are same

Thanks For helping Darq

[bright hill]

this is quite peculiar ngl

[empty schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-ok-great-good-thumbs-up-gif-16351183

[bright hill]

no embed perms

[empty schooner]

What should I draw next

[bright hill]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[empty schooner]

Say to me Darq

Like idea

[rocky shuttle]

A dark cube

[empty schooner]

ok that simple

I will star even know for tht

A

[bright hill]

zane I know how to multiply vectors now

[woven whale]

turkish I suppose

[bright hill]

[river moon]

çan confırm İ have a türkiş keyboard

[empty schooner]

I have tukish keyboard

[rocky shuttle]

What kind of vector multiplication though?

Hadamard product? Kronecker product? Scalar product?

[bright hill]

the geometric product

the vector product to rule all vector products :sotrue:

[bright hill]

also, scalar product? 😳

[rocky shuttle]

Ah, I see

[rocky shuttle]

umm, the usual inner product / dot product

[bright hill]

zane french confirmed?

[rocky shuttle]

How did you come to that conclusion?

fr*nch

I was in Fr*nce several days ago though

[neat lintel]

if u commit sins you'll be sent to fr*nce

[tame wyvern]

i love how it's considered a swear

[bright hill]

The dot product is called "produit scalaire" in french

[rocky shuttle]

DarQ Fr*nch confirmed

And it's "Skalarprodukt" in German

[zealous garden]

Man I love dot product generalizations

There's the fat dot product

The scalar product

The left contraction

Even the right contraction

And they're all the same thing if both inputs are vectors

[zealous garden]

Based

[bright hill]

Did you see my ping?

[zealous garden]

MAKE SURE YOU WATCH THE ADDENDUM

[rocky shuttle]

[zealous garden]

Sudgy is thinking about delisting that video and uploading a corrected version

[bright hill]

Lmfao

So you already know the dude

[zealous garden]

I watch all his videos and he moderates a discord

I think most of his GA opinions are based, which is nice

[rocky shuttle]

Dangos are based

[zealous garden]

Sudgy's pfp is a dango!

[rocky shuttle]

That's why I mentioned it 🍡

[zealous garden]

He's constantly paying the price for saying ab = a•b+a^b

[rocky shuttle]

What price?

[zealous garden]

Seeing all the people who don't know the proper geometric product

In the server, in his comment sections, and perhaps in the wild

Between 1 vectors a lot of special cases come up

Statements like "for vectors a,b ab = a•b + a^b" and "a•b = (ab + ba)/2", "a^b = (ab - ba)/2" are theorems, naive presentations make them seem like definitions

For example, between bivectors the dot and wedge product wholly commute

[lavish scaffold]

Does anyone know does the grid method always work for polynomial division or do you have to use long division?

[zealous garden]

But we can open up the commutator product now

The commutator product of bivectors is always another bivector

In fact the set of bivectors with the commutator product form a lie algebra

[bright hill]

wait that's not true?

and here I thought I knew what the geometric product is

[zealous garden]

That will work if you intend to reduce every expression to a sum of products of vectors

And remember your associativity

But it's not generally true

Bivectors are the easiest example

The wedge product of 2 bivectors clearly has to be a 4-vector (or 0)

The dot product a scalar

Yet the GP of bivectors also includes an anticommutative bivector portion which doesn't show up in either

[bright hill]

[zealous garden]

Example

$(e_{12} + e_{34})e_{23} = e_{1223} + e_{3423} = e_{13} - e_{24}$

$(e_{12} + e_{34}) \wedge e_{23} = e_{12} \wedge e_{23} + e_{34} \wedge e_{23} = 0$

$(e_{12} + e_{34}) \cdot e_{23} = e_{12} \cdot e_{23} + e_{34} \cdot e_{23} = 0$

[fathom swallow]

wraithlord_kobordism

[zealous garden]

For general multivectors A,B; AB ≠ A • B + A ^ B

Another simple example, try the identity between scalars

It works for 1-vectors specifically

[static loom]

you allow adding e_12 with e_34 in GA?

[zealous garden]

Yes

[static loom]

whats the one where youre not allowed then

[zealous garden]

That thing exponentiates to interpolate (for example) a double rotation in 4D

What do you mean

They're in an algebra, by definition you can add them

[static loom]

oh you dont know what im talking about?

[zealous garden]

I don't think I do

Do you mean Exterior Algebra?

[zealous garden]

I can give you an example without that, I just think of it a lot because it breaks some expectations you build in 3D

[static loom]

dunno the name, just the idea that k-blades don't form a vector space usually

[zealous garden]

I mean k-blades don't

[static loom]

yep

[zealous garden]

k-vectors do

Simple and non-simple bivectors both appear

[static loom]

so you don't particularly care about blades i guess

[zealous garden]

We do

Blades are geometric objects

[static loom]

yeah

[zealous garden]

Non simple bivectors you can consider to be geometric in a way

[static loom]

so are nonblades nongeometric

[zealous garden]

Not necessarily

An example

The multiplication of two vectors a,b yields ab

We can look at ab in two essential ways

As the composition of two entities, the wedge product and the dot product, or as its own singular entity

[static loom]

hows that a k-vector thats not a k-blade

[zealous garden]

It's not

[static loom]

oh youre still explaining sorry

[zealous garden]

Its a geometric object that isn't a k-blade

[static loom]

lol oh

no tell me an example of a k-vector that's not a k-blade that's gemetrical

[zealous garden]

e_12 + e_03

In 3D PGA e_0 squares to zero, and this can be seen as two lines

It's a lie algebra element, and exponentiates to screw motions

Translations along one line, accompanied by rotations about the other

in 3D (dual space) PGA, the vectors a,b are affine planes, and the wedge product is their meet

A single line

[static loom]

how do i do that

[static loom]

do i square this or smething

[zealous garden]

exp(αe_12 + βe_03)

[static loom]

alpha is the amount of translation along the line, and beta is the amount of rotation?

[zealous garden]

In this example, the other way around

e_12 generates the transformation taking e_1 to e_2. This is a rotation

e_03 generates what takes e_3 to e_0, which projectively, is like our plane at infinity

[static loom]

so if i multiply this by e_1 itll rotate to e_2 and then translate some amount by e_0 to e_3 or smething

[zealous garden]

So that "rotation" is a translation

[zealous garden]

Almost

You have to take the sandwich product

Or conjugates

[static loom]

i see like quaternions

[zealous garden]

Exactly, quaternions are a special case of this

The complex numbers of course are also a case, where the formulas simplify because of the commutativity relations

[static loom]

fun

[atomic salmon]

w

[neat lintel]

Can someone share their nordvpn subscription with me

[tepid light]

dawg

i see dawg

wut da dawg doin

[mental stratus]

lmao got sullied hard

[zealous garden]

Hyper Sully

[viscid jasper]

I'm watching this MIT Integration Bee final, and what came to my mind is that I could have studied harder during my bachelor
Does anyone else feel like they've slacked their bachelor? Like I passed everything with okay grades, but I just studied for the sake of passing.

I want to improve that on my masters, but I hope its not too late to actually get good at math

[neat lintel]

selfish chat

[mental stratus]

i didn't sully you Brandon im mot selfish

[south kelp]

I feel that very hard

honestly feels like imma have to take multiple gap years where all I do is study math to make up for it before I head to grad school 🙃. Which I wouldn't have a problem with cause it's been fun doing that so far this summer, except for the financial aspect of not having a real job for that long

[mossy isle]

I have a question in #math-discussion I was wondering about it

[south kelp]

all the roots to x^3 = - 1 are regular complex numbers tho

Sooooo good old complex analysis I guess?

What they're looking to propose isn't a field either right? Cause x^3 + 1 is not irreducible in R so R[x]/(x^3 +1) isn't a field >. >.

[static loom]

hold the phone

graph f(x)=x^3+1 in desmos and then discuss the behavior of odd degree polynomials with real coefficients

[south kelp]

I mean real numbers are complex numbers too

[static loom]

oh this is your angle

[south kelp]

yeah lol

[static loom]

yuck

[sterile river]

@dusky jackal Well, his comedy stuff reflects himself

Its why I stopped

[dusky jackal]

Interesting

[sterile river]

What do you find funny in his sketches?

[dusky jackal]

I can understand that. I've also learned somewhat early on that sometimes it's better to disconnect a person from who they are vs. what they do, especially when the latter is valuable/worth having.
J.K. Rowling is a good example of this. She's definitely a very problematic person, but doesn't change the fact that she's made Harry Potter, one of the most beloved fantasy stories out there.

[sterile river]

Idk tbh

[dusky jackal]

Some people feel that way, and that's fine.
If I don't know them, I personally don't see the benefit of ruining something I enjoy because the person themselves aren't all that.

[sterile river]

I see

[little vine]

Harry Potter sucks

[loud snow]

Also lotr has cooler wizards

[plain path]

Question, is there a known value for the zeta function at 3?

As in, not just an approximation?

Let me rephrase ig

[fervent pebble]

we have integrals that represent it

wdym by known value

[plain path]

Ok

Is there a closed representation of zeta of 3?

[fervent pebble]

again

wdym by closed representation

[plain path]

Closed-form expression

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-form_expression

[static loom]

no, and also for further researching it goes by the name apery's constant

[plain path]

Ok

Hang on

Does digamma count as a closed-form expression?

[static loom]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-form_expression

[loud snow]

Yes?

[plain path]

Ok

Give me a moment

[static loom]

zeta(3) counts as a closed form expression

[loud snow]

You do have to evaluate an integral

But I still think it counts

[plain path]

I think I found a way to express it in terms of digamma and a factorial

So

Then that constant would have another form

Let me test it again real quick

Unless that is already known

[plain path]

Ok

I think I found a closed form expression which can show the value of any natural number for zeta(n)

Including all odd natural numbers

and I did it by complete accident basically

It might work for non-natural numbers, but idk

Let me write it down

Oh wait I can’t post pictures

[solar hawk]

#math-discussion

[plain path]

Posted

[loud snow]

Are there any cool finance servers? A common reason for SVBs collapse was having a lot of overvalued tech companies as business, I am interested in learning more about this in particular to understand what tech companies in particular

This also couldve been avoided had they properly priced the valuation of the companies and hedge their risk of being overvalued?

They definitely had the infrastructure to do this but it either didnt work or they didnt think of doing it

[south kelp]

if u find one lemme know

[mental stratus]

waatsooon

[neat lintel]

? Waton

?

[ancient spire]

anyone know how to use excel spread sheets

[neat lintel]

It was mostly cryptoscams not "tech" companies

also, didn't they collapse because of a bank run not because of their investments

most of their investments were in US treasuries, bonds and mortage backed securites

[coral monolith]

Can I get help for a problem even if I know how to get the solution? (Solving it it's tedious)

[wet berry]

Is this another problem that you know the answer to?

[coral monolith]

There's an algorithm but I'm slow as fuck

[long matrix]

What exactly would this help be though.

[fickle oriole]

Hello

[coral monolith]

Idk maybe I am doing it wrong or maybe I am too stupid

[long matrix]

well why not open a help channel and present whats been done so far

[coral monolith]

I guess
It's only that I feel stupid cuz it's a thing that any computer could do and I cannot

[long matrix]

🤨

any computer can run stockfish 15

I can't.

[tight comet]

that's weird

[next blade]

SVB wasn't invested into tech company stocks, they had startups, VCs and the like as depositors. what happened was that back when rates were 0% (effectively), SVB had very cheap funding and the way they monetized this cash was that they bought a bunch of treasury bonds that yielded a nonzero numher. as the Fed started hiking, the bonds lost mark to market value, people noticed, panicked, and this caused a bank run.

[loud snow]

Yes a bank run

So their depositors had iffy funding and their bonds lost value because demand went down due to interest rates. I dont know too much about finance but why couldnt they do a interest rate swap?

Wouldnt that leave their main problem being the depositors?

[next blade]

no, the depositors didn't have iffy funding. the depositor is just someone who has a checking account with the bank. they thought the bank was going to fail and all rushed to pull their money.

and it's not the depositors' bonds, it's SVB's, right

if you're a bank, what you do is you take deposits. now that you have that money, cool, what do you do with it?

well, you can make loans, or you can invest it

now with interest rates at zero, SVB's client base didn't really need to take loans out - VCs and startups were swimming in money and themselves trying to figure out how to spend it

so SVB invested it. to bonds instead of t-bills cause of the extra pickup in yield

but meaning the money'd be locked in longer

but who cares cause the depositors are not going to leave, they have great relationships etc

so the thought process must've been that they're not really borrowing short (deposits) to lend long (treasuries), but really that the risk of people pulling money is small

they could have done all kinds of hedges to protect themselves vs a rise in rates

[versed laurel]

hello have u heard about something new

[next blade]

but chose not to. in fact i think they thought that a rise in interest rates will actually make them money (because they're not going to pass through the whole increase to the depositors, as per standard)

and it all would have been fine, until it wasn't

[viscid jasper]

have you?

[quiet geode]

why sat_3 aint a honorable yet

[woven whale]

sat_3?

[quiet geode]

a math god

@/sat_3

[loud snow]

So the problem was that they invested too much into bonds, what is this about pass through the whole increase to depositors ?

[woven whale]

from:sat_3
the first thing I see is real analysis

[quiet geode]

thats just him while hes asleep

give the man some respect

[woven whale]

no messages in any of the algebra channels

[quiet geode]

that means hes always asleep

[modest rune]

SVB made a few mistakes

the main one was over investing in low interest rate bonds

[quiet geode]

give the man some respect

[modest rune]

the other big one was having a totally undiverse portfolio

so that when the tech people got spooked they all spooked eachother

and there was no one sane left

that said, the bank was never really unsound, it lost some money but iirc no one thought it was a huge issue until the fear mongering started

they sold off a ton of their bonds at a loss, which caused people to think there were solvency issues that really weren't there

and the whole thing spiraled out of control way too fast

(the other part of this story is that SVB was pushing really hard for the removal of certain bank regulations that would have prevented the bond thing)

[next blade]

if interest rates go up, banks don't pay the entire increase to the depositors is what i mean that the increases aren't passed through. yet any increase will be charged for, and maybe then some, in e.g. banks' lending operations (be it mortgages or otherwise). thus it's not unreasonable for many banks to assume that they will actually make more money in a higher interest rate environment (and if i recall correctly, SVB in their stress testing scenarios were indeed assuming this). this works out if you think that the deposits are in some sense captive, or at least not super price sensitive (do you shop around for 0.1% better rates on a monthly basis and change banks?), but obviously in this case the deposits all fled very suddenly (forcing SVB to liquidate bonds and crystallize the mark to market losses)

[versed laurel]

herllo

[loud snow]

Hi

[loud snow]

Thanks for explaining its like you are a finance expert. Also its my first time hearing the word crystallize , investopedia says its closing an investment position. So crystallizing the mark to market losses means stopping an investment(in this case bonds) because the fair value of the bonds was decreasing

[neat lintel]

damn bro where did you learn so much about finance

[sleek pagoda]

is there any algorithim like newtons method that takes in a guess for sqrt(x) and returns an even closer number without using division?

[neat lintel]

yeah the babylonian algorithm

actually I think that uses division

since you have to find midpoints

[sleek pagoda]

how does the method work

I am trying to make a sqrt algorithim like the quake one, but idk something that doesn't use division

[static loom]

you want fast inverse square root without the inverse?

[sleek pagoda]

Yes

[static loom]

are you working on a game right now or you just want to find something for fun

[sleek pagoda]

for fun

Learning java

I just wanted to implement things that come to my head

[static loom]

you could do a taylor expansion

[latent edge]

yeah

[sleek pagoda]

I'm trying not to use divisions

[static loom]

why

[sleek pagoda]

Well

I heard they are slow